#Saviors Discussion

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tired shale
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It's around Insomniac for me

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Actually might change mine

deft violet
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In this house we respect Nimrod I see šŸ’Ŗ

static flint
deft violet
tired shale
worn gull
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living in the 20s

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is almost horseshoes

tired shale
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Album sounds like ||Shenanigans, 21st and Insomniac||

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But totally its own thing

worn gull
tired shale
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It's very Punk Rock

static flint
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yeah

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it’s very good

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im surprised

ornate zenith
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I’m glad people are saying that about it, because I never really want an album that just sounds like another one. If I want an insomniac album I’ll just listen to that

worn gull
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im listening to father to a son rn

static flint
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it’s not trying to be AI, Dookie, 21cb ect, but it takes inspiration from them

deft violet
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Help I got Coma City stuck in my head

tired shale
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It's like classic Green Day revamped, I think it shows how brave the band is with trying fun ideas

worn gull
static flint
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ngl

worn gull
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I think these last 10 years for them (the trilogy, revrad, side projects, FOAM) resulted in a great album that mix everything good that they learned with all the mistakes that they're commited

static flint
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gonna push it up to 5th

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over insomniac

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it’s really good

deft violet
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It's too soon anyway

tired shale
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It's not even recency bias either

ornate zenith
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Can’t know if it’s recency bias until some time has passed

tired shale
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It could be, yeah. I meant for me but maybe

static flint
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usually with recently bias i underrate it lmao

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i had revrad in mid until like a year after it came out

deft violet
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RevRad is forever mid lol

last glen
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People are getting them

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It's happening

static flint
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it’s literally top 3

tired shale
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Rev Rad is awesome

deft violet
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Never

static flint
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the leaks

tired shale
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Rev Rad is top 10

last glen
tired shale
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Wait, am I allowed to say that?

deft violet
static flint
deft violet
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RevRad is top 14 I agree

last glen
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RevRad is #4 to me

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Not counting saviors yet

static flint
tired shale
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||the full Saviors album is on YouTube in poor quality lol||

static flint
ornate zenith
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The recency bias with Saviors is it coming after an album a lot of people don’t like so then they hear something good and think damn this is the best shit ever

deft violet
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My problem with RevRad is how safe and sanatized it sounds. No high moments, just a flow of good to mediocre songs

subtle ravine
subtle ravine
static flint
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revrad literally has one of their highest moments😭

deft violet
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I wish I saw what you people see in Forever Now

last glen
static flint
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forever now is genuinely top 3 and it’s not 2 or 3

subtle ravine
ornate zenith
static flint
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it’s 1

deft violet
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I guess "fuck you I'm from Oakland" is a high for me

ornate zenith
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#Revolution-Radio-Discussion

deft violet
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😦

static flint
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she gonna swing her dick is it’s 19.81ā€

ornate zenith
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Where are people getting the ā€œit’sā€

deft violet
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C'mon Johnny, I don't want to go to #greenday-chat

ornate zenith
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I know you don’t but the waters not even cold you just have to get used to it

tired shale
static flint
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what i like about saviors so far is

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it sounds grand again?

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like a AI, 21cb or RevRad

ornate zenith
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I don’t doubt it’s good as hell it’s just kinda impossible to give it a ranking among their albums without having recency bias

static flint
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it’s got that ā€œgreenday are invincibleā€œ feeling

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where they’re just in the zone

deft violet
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Let's talk about our disappointments with Saviors.

  • title track is boring
  • some songs can get quite repetitive (but they are saved by the production and instrumentals)
last glen
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Yeah I'd say wait a month after it drops to truly rate it. Let it settle.

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I still think it's probably top 5 material from what I have heard. Need to wait though to confirm if I'll feel that way later

static flint
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let’s talk about our pros of saviors
•it fucks
•bisexuality
•she gonna bang her like it’s 1981

last glen
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At worst, 6th or 7th. Its gonna be in the top half of albums I feel

static flint
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it’s more the way it’s delivered that makes it sounds like he’s asking multiple people to me lmao

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or the same person having a gender crisis idk

deft violet
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COMA CITY OPEN YOUR EYES

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DO YOU WANT TO BE MY GIRLFRIEND

static flint
deft violet
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So many songs to scream to

tired shale
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And oh boy, does Billie scream

static flint
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i will say

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livin in the 20s

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absolute classic already

deft violet
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AIN'T THAT A KICK IN YOUR HEAD

static flint
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that’s a banger

tired shale
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Top 5 Saviors songs probably so far

1.Living In The 20s
2.Coma City
3.Dilemma
4.Bobby Sox
5.1981

static flint
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top 5
Living in the 20s
Dilemma
Bobby Sox
Coma City
Fancy Sauce

tired shale
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Ya know, for as "okay" as TADIKM is, it really was a great opener choice. Can't explain it

static flint
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the only thing i don’t like

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is how many slow songs there are?

tired shale
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Also a few songs sound pretty similar

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Even the weaker songs though aren't necessarily bad

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Like the title track for example, that has some really nice ||vocal harmonies|| and vibes

static flint
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corvette summer also a banger

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you’ll love livin in the 20s ngl

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it’s angsty nimrod x 21cb

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and black sabbath lmao

tired shale
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It's very ||Too Much Too Soon, Horseshoes, Walking Contradiction||

worn gull
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I'm cautiously optimistic

limber shore
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i interpreted it as either about bisexuality or him speaking from the point of view of two people who are into each other in different perspectives

static flint
tired shale
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There's no ||handclaps||

I believe

worn gull
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You people are making it sound like it's American Idiot Part Two man, I'm really hoping it lives up to the hype

tired shale
limber shore
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||also i really like suzie chapstick tbh, feel like it's been pretty overlooked||

static flint
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livin in the 20s might have their best ever sounding solo imo

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it sounds so so good

tired shale
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I may like it more with time, first listens aren't enough to take something

mossy talon
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Saviors first impression rankings

  1. Coma city
  2. Living in the 20s
  3. Dilemma
  4. 1981
  5. Strange days are here to stay
  6. Goodnight Adeline
  7. Corvette summer
  8. Fancy sauce
  9. Saviors
  10. Father to a son
  11. TADIKM
  12. LMNB
  13. Suzie chapstick
  14. Bobby sox
  15. OEB
limber shore
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definitely bobby sox

static flint
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definitely bobby sox

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like

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a lot

mossy talon
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This album on par with revrad imo

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Corvette summer reminds me of drake and Josh

limber shore
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i kinda see what u mean 😭

mossy talon
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It’s a good thing tho lmao

keen pewter
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holy fuck what an album

mossy talon
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Never heard a GD song like corvette summer and suzie chapstick particularly

static flint
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Livin in the 20s
Dilemma
Bobby Sox
Coma City
Corvette Summer
Suzie Chapstick
One Eyed Bastard
The American Dream Is Killing Me
Strange Days are here to Stay
Saviors
1981
Fancy Sauce
Look Ma No Brains!
Goodnight Adeline
Father to a Son

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that’s the intro lol

mossy talon
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Father to a son was overhyped imo

static flint
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agreed

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too slow for me

limber shore
mossy talon
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I love the bridge of coma city, the guitar is damn amazing

static flint
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agreed

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i’m in love with bobby sox rn lmao

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it’s so cutesy

limber shore
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idk way too early for me to make any kind of ranking but so far i would say it's about on par with 1039 and 21cbd or better

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it does feel like a culmination of everything they've done

mossy talon
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Strange days are here to stay is more better rusty james

limber shore
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definitely an upgrade from father of all and trilogy lol

static flint
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he’s so gramps i love it

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ā€œthey stole my phone :)ā€

oblique sky
limber shore
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probably better! i have issues with revrad mainly bc of how overblown the production is + some songs haven't aged well

mossy talon
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On par for revrad for me

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But I don’t think there are any songs like forever now or still breathing

knotty crow
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what from revrad hasn’t aged well

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really

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there are some lyrical quirks i guess

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but billie has been that way since 21cb

limber shore
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i never find myself putting on ordinary world, bouncing off the wall, or youngblood so take that as you will

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anyway on immediate impressions i really like: bobby sox, fancy sauce, living in the 20s, suzie chapstick, goodnight adeline

mossy talon
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I think this might be unpopular but I don’t like Bobby Sox, but I do like the instrumental

limber shore
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OH, coma city was great too

oblique sky
limber shore
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i still think revrad is like pretty good, esp when you take into consideration that it was released between the trilogy and father of all

rancid arch
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Imagine if this was Green Day’s first album since RevRad.

ornate zenith
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@keen pewter damn you for posting the complete 1981 clip

static flint
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where

ornate zenith
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This morning EST

keen pewter
ornate zenith
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It is so good and I'm doing exactly what I knew I'd do if I listened to a recording

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I'm gonna wear it out in shitty quality before it's even out

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Fuckin earworm

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Can't wait to hear that verse and prechorus in high quality that fuckin rules

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||Sick bass, slam dance||

knotty crow
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i caved and listened to the full 1981 recording

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god damn

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i knew the bones of the song were good and that the live performances were just a bit rough

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that song kicks so much ass

subtle ravine
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BOBBY SOX ID FUCKING INCREDIBLE HOLY SHIT

strong valve
ornate zenith
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19'81"

strong valve
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I’m trying not to drink any ā€œone listenā€ kool-aid for this album. I enjoyed it when I heard it in the store earlier but I need to hear it again before I give any serious ratings or thoughts.

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That being said

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Fancy Sauce fucks

manic stratus
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I may or may not have recorded on my phone at the listing party so I can keep listening. If I were to have done that ofc the quality sucks but fuck it just makes it feel like a demo

forest crag
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Are there any snippets of new songs online, I've seen that on Reddit it's totally fine to upload them

subtle ravine
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Saviors is a pretty mid song lol

forest crag
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@manic stratus uhhhh u would love to hear that

knotty crow
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were they just playing tadikm during chiefs-dolphins

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oh

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no

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sure sounded like it though

knotty crow
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it's been linked here a bunch of times

forest crag
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Just got home lmao

ornate zenith
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Damn, wonder which one if there wasn't one in LA today

obsidian harbor
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Idk but on the live they were playing a song over the speakers and it sounded good

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Yeah they were signing stuff

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The song sounded good

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It was the song from the teaser with the acoustic

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So that’s cool

abstract grove
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Loved the new album. Not a bad song on there.

ornate zenith
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What

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That doesn’t make sense

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They were filming a music video in LA today

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I found it, it was in Burbank

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I saw that Reddit comment

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Also confused me

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Supersonic jet to Orlando

knotty crow
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||still didn't believe it but at least it was more convincing than that saviors rickroll link||

worn gull
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FOAMF doesnt exist :>

dense pumice
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Youre evil :(

lofty yacht
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Im not clicking that

subtle ravine
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On first impressions my top 5 songs were:

  1. Corvette Summer
  2. Goodnight Adeline
  3. Living in the 20s
  4. Bobby Sox
  5. Fancy Sauce
azure helm
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first green day album to make 3 cents, a button and a dust bunny

abstract grove
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What are the new headphones?

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One of my colleagues at work is some big audiophile. Carries around some $2,000 sennheisers. I’m tempted to ask if I can borrow them on release day šŸ™‚

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My friend sent me a recording of his entire listening party. Audio is better than most the snippets I’ve seen from other people. If someone wants it just DM me.

eager swan
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Heyy I change my mind

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Suzie Chapstick, seems like a nice song to listen to when you're riding a car

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Sorry I said bad things about you Suzie

dense pumice
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Strange how nobody talks about the title-track

last glen
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i do like the title track a lot, but its surrounded by so many other tracks that go so hard

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ESPECIALLY since it's being sandwiched between Father To A Son and Fancy Sauce

eager swan
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Sorry Suzie, forgive me I said bad things about you

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Btw for some reason I didn't like the bridge section of father to a son and the beginning of the string solo which reminds me of a very popular song

hallow creek
rancid arch
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I haven't listened to more than 5 seconds of it and that first verse instrumentation is stuck in my head.

worn gull
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WAIT

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JASO

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JASON

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@hallow creek Were you attend a listening party for the album? Where if ever and how was it

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What were your first impressions too

tired shale
worn gull
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Not you lol

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And I'll know it when I hear it for myself next week

deft violet
tired shale
tired shale
eager swan
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Side A Is really impressive.
Side B can't say much except for 2-3 songs.

tired shale
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Side B has some real great songs

amber pagoda
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Nu

brisk pumice
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if anyone manages to get a CD can we DM šŸ‘‰šŸ¼ šŸ‘ˆšŸ¼

deft violet
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3 of those are in my top 5

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Oups my bad

tiny plover
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Music video to Bobby sox

tiny plover
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I love the green album era vibes in the bridge of Bobby sox

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Also reminds me of Nimrod, trilogy and I was a teenage teenager

tiny plover
half verge
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oh god i havent listened to it but i hope you mean that as in the best of green album way

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and not like

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crab

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but like uhhh idk dont let go or photograph

forest crag
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@abstract grove I'm downnn sent u dm

violet needle
deft violet
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Crazy that the album hasn't leaked

keen pewter
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I still haven’t fully processed the album

knotty cloud
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i didnt listen to the full thing, but from what i've heard its really good

violet needle
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Also strange that not a single record store employee ripped the listening Party copy of the album and put online

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Wouldve betted on that happening tbh

sacred bone
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My store played it on digital.

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Im guessing links are unique to stores and traffic can be tracked.

violet needle
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Even if the original link in unique

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Like with Microsoft soundmapper

strong valve
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My store played the cd

violet needle
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Also a couple stores sold physical copies also, there are people who have them

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And some stores had vinyls for the party that were played

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Im not saying its a bad thing that nobody leaked it as of yet - its just really really surprising

sacred bone
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My store didnt have copies. I didnt know any did.

subtle ravine
violet needle
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There was even that video of a store that had a listening party, and ā€štestedā€˜ the vinyl like last week already

echo basin
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I love how everyone is talking about listening party experiences on all platforms, and I'm just here waiting for the local one on the 16th...
At least I'm collecting data 'til then!

sacred bone
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One other thing i forgot to add in my original review

I have issues with father to a son but it came from what his son did not the song. It felt weird listening to it. I had the issues before hearing the song too tbf.

violet needle
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What did his son do?

subtle ravine
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To be fair Billie has two sons for me it was easy to just not think about Joey lol

violet needle
subtle ravine
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Basically he was going out with a 16 year old when he was 22 and would constantly ask her about having sex and shit

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It was a whole thing

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And Joey handled the situation like a fucking dumbass

violet needle
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I never liked him anyway tbh, he always gave off douchey vibes somehow

sacred bone
subtle ravine
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Billie even kicked Joey out of the house LMAO

acoustic canopy
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LMAO

violet needle
acoustic canopy
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didnt the weezer guy have allegations too

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not rivers

subtle ravine
acoustic canopy
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but the other guy idk his name

subtle ravine
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After the whole thing happened a guy from SWMRS iirc had posted that Joey was looking for a place to stay LOL

sacred bone
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Today in another reason to like billie

subtle ravine
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I'm sure Billie still loves Joey but I can't imagine how disappointed he must've felt dude

violet needle
violet needle
acoustic canopy
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i see

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cuz people were saying you cant say that guys name in rivers server

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like its blacklisted

violet needle
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The ā€šconcrete evidenceā€˜ the abusers posted also wasn’t very concrete at all but idk it wasn’t some really serious stuff either way, more just like really damn weird

violet needle
acoustic canopy
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yeah

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lemme find it

violet needle
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Weird

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Cause there has yet to be a statement by the band

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Or rivers for that matter

sacred bone
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unrelated but if people want to find snippets. Search green day on yt and filter by upload date. theres a decent amount of them

violet needle
sacred bone
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Yes

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at least that i heard

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We cant post rips.

acoustic canopy
violet needle
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Oh so it seems rivers doesnt want the talk about the specific topic there

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Still weird

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Why die rivers server even become green day?

subtle ravine
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Cuz Rivers is hyped for Saviors

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I guess lmao

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Dude Corvette Summer is such a catchy tune I love it so much man

violet needle
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Maybe rivers wrote bobby sox haha

subtle ravine
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LMAO

sacred bone
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Ive seen people say these sound like weezer songs.

I only listen to beverly hills, say it aint so and buddy holly and i didnt hear those from it so im not sure.

subtle ravine
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I listen to a lot of Weezer

acoustic canopy
subtle ravine
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And no, these doesn't like them LMAO

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I can see it in a couple spots but nah man

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This album reminds me a lot of Nimrod

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I drew a lot of parallels to it while listening

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I mean it like

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The variety of styles on the album remind me of Nimrod

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Like they are trying a lot of different sounds on one album like they did there

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But they also have those classic Green Day style tracks

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Idk how to explain it

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But I will say that Nimrod is my favorite Green Day precisely because of how well it nails all the different things it tried

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And I felt that Saviors also nailed everything it tried to do

violet needle
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Reminds me more of 21cb especially these the who/cheap trick kind of melodies

subtle ravine
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I can see that too

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I thought the album was extremely solid

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Maybe slightly worse than RevRad but like that's my second favorite Green Day album lol

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I would have to hear it more to give it a proper ranking

violet needle
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Im a bit worried cause it seems that aside from the singles and 1981 the songs are on the slower side

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I think bobby sox for example shouldve bern a couple bpm faster, it seems so dragging especially with those repetitive lyrics

subtle ravine
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I personally don't mind that at all

violet needle
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Was hoping for some more songs in the style of look ma no brains, which is the single i liked the most by far

acoustic canopy
subtle ravine
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Plus, the singles, 1981, Coma City, Corvette Summer and Living in the 20s absolutely make up for the slower songs

violet needle
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Though of course ill hold off judgement until i hear it all in context

subtle ravine
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I think it has a pretty nice balance

violet needle
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I just personally dont care for 1981 much

subtle ravine
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I always liked it

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It reminds me of Scattered which is a song I absolutely love

violet needle
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I find something about its melody somewhat bland and a tad annoying i can’t explain - its maybe cause i first heard it through this super off pitch live version that imo sounded terrible

subtle ravine
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Yeah that live version sounded really bad

violet needle
subtle ravine
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Living in the 20s was fucking fantastic man

violet needle
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I think that the production is gonna work wonders for the song and ill like it all more due to the great sound when i finally hve my cooy

subtle ravine
subtle ravine
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Rob nailed it on this one

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Also dude

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I think this album has some of Billie's best singing

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Tho in 1981 I think he sounds a little weird?

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Like not bad just like

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He sounds a little different

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Compared to the rest of the album lol

acoustic canopy
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i do like 1981 A LOT more than the live

subtle ravine
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Same

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The guitars sound so damn good

acoustic canopy
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yeah still not my favorite

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but i will listen to it whereas if it was like the live, i wouldnt have

violet needle
violet needle
subtle ravine
violet needle
subtle ravine
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And I'll defend Corvette Summer til the end even tho some ppl have trashed it LMAO

violet needle
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Im one of the only people who seem to kinda like saviors quite much (the track) its so the who/cheap trick it could be straight off of 21cb

acoustic canopy
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dude i liked title track

violet needle
acoustic canopy
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people were shitting on it

violet needle
# subtle ravine Ye

That was one of the more interesting sounding songs to me from the videos ive seen

subtle ravine
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I personally loved it

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It was the highlight for me

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Like I can't get it out of my head it was such a fun song

acoustic canopy
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father to a son was a good acoustic song

subtle ravine
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Yeah it was really good

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And Fancy Sauce was a great way to end the album I think

acoustic canopy
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yeah

violet needle
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Corvette summer could be a straight up cheap trick song too

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Sounds like something that could be played in ā€šthat 70s showā€˜ or be an intro song for a spin off off it, pretty cool stuff

acoustic canopy
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i was a little let down for bobby sox but it was still good

violet needle
acoustic canopy
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surprisingly that was my dads favorite

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yeah

subtle ravine
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I personally really liked Bobby Sox but It could've been a bit faster lol

acoustic canopy
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YES

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i fucking love fast songs

violet needle
subtle ravine
acoustic canopy
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insomniac my love dude

violet needle
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It drags, because not only is the tempo weird but also is it very repetitive and it would benefit greatly from being faster

violet needle
subtle ravine
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Like as it is Bobby Sox is really really good but if it was just a bit faster it could've been even better

acoustic canopy
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yeah

violet needle
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That’s probably why i like look ma no brains so much cause it reminds me of insomniac and nimrod a lot

acoustic canopy
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look ma is the 2nd best single

violet needle
subtle ravine
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One Eyed Bastard is so damn good dude hell yeah

violet needle
sacred bone
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https://youtu.be/RDI187v1Jao?feature=shared this sounds alot like bobby sox. saw a comment that said it did and after hearing this song i see it.

From Puddle of Mudd's Come Clean album

Met a girl, thought she was grand
fell in love, found out first hand
went well for a week or two
then it all came unglued

In a trap, trip I can't grip
never thought I'd be the one who'd slip
then I started to realize
I was living one big lie

She fucking hates me
trust
she fucking hates me...

ā–¶ Play video
violet needle
acoustic canopy
violet needle
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Dilemma is the better still breathing for me

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Sounds less like a katy perry song in the verses and packs more punch

acoustic canopy
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lmao katy perry song

violet needle
violet needle
# acoustic canopy lmao katy perry song

Yeah, it always irritated me…i like the song but the verses sound so much like a katy perry song from the melody to the production and billies vocal delivery that it always baffled me

violet needle
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I still think green days best single in recent history remains Bang Bang. Without a doubt for me

static flint
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meh

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it’s good but

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dilemma is phenomenal

opaque brook
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Sent you a dm!

deft violet
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What do you guys think of Father to a Son ? Not a fan personaly, it's good but nothing special

acoustic canopy
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it was a good acoustic

deft violet
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I expected something with more emotions

subtle ravine
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It's the only one I didn't recognize while listening to the album

devout monolith
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I’m convinced that song didn’t make the cut or was heavily reworked

subtle ravine
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That was my least favorite teaser so I'll take it LOL

keen pewter
subtle ravine
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Maybe?

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Cuz I did catch where all the other teasers were except for that one lol

sacred bone
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I dont love fever being an exlcusive to one country but at least theres no store exclisives afaik.

subtle ravine
#

Also guys Damn Juvenile Delinquents wasn't on the albumšŸ˜”

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Corvette Summer makes up for it tho that song is so good I don't need DJD no more

#

Gotta say tho Damn Juvenile Delinquents is a fucking awful song title

deft violet
#

Corvette Summer is one of my least favorite

subtle ravine
#

I am a sucker for those 60s/70s vibes that it has

#

I think that's why I like FOAM as well lol

deft violet
#

You heard it live ? I only listened to the recording so my opinion is flawed

subtle ravine
#

Oh

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I heard it on the listening party yeah

celest hawk
subtle ravine
#

For me it was one of the highlights but maybe I just like mediocre shit LMAO

wraith pine
#

I’m waiting till the album comes out to give my full opinion but from the listing party I went to strange days are here to stay and living in the ā€˜20s stood out to me

deft violet
#

For me:

  • Bobby Sox: repetitive but that chorus gave me CHILLS
  • Coma City: that outro just kept going, crazy stuff
  • Living in the 20s: catchy as fuck, that solo and the screams are perfect
  • Fancy Sauce: I'm not one to love slower songs but what a closer. The melody, vocals and lyrics flow perfectly
keen pewter
#

Bobby Sox might be the best song

#

that fucking ||DO YOU WANNA BE MY BOOOYFRIEEEEEND|| makes me feel some shit bro

tiny plover
#

I'm going through their discography in order again and I swear I'm spotting new things

#

I hear more AI in Nimrod and Warning than before

#

Also weird similar elements of Foxboro in few songs on Warning, which is strange

#

Because I hear a bit of everything in saviors, I decided to over analyze their discography this way

#

Ai is like the percussive sound of Warning and punk of Nimrod colliding

#

And add the Power ballad sound and operatic elements

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Makes AI feel more like old GD than it did before

#

Idk where that line is anymore

#

But dookie is dead by AI petty much

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And warning

#

I guess the way they wrote punk changed from insomniac to Nimrod more than I thought

#

But Nimrod still has insomniac vibe

#

S

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Especially on some songs

tiny plover
#

Also there is way more Warning in 21st CB than I thought

#

Little girls feels like misery 2

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And peacemaker like a full Song out of that one part of misery

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Then static age/Church on sunday

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American eulogy/Deadbeat holiday

sacred bone
#

This album feels like what if weezer made rev rad in the best way. Like the pop punk weezer.

tiny plover
#

Exactly

#

Except trilogy gives me Nimrod vibes

#

Too

#

RR is like Trilogy with rock opera elements. FOAM is like Trilogy, but further experiementing with a little bit of RR

#

So cool that saviors has a bit of everything, kinda celebrates their career

#

I don't hear much dookie in UNO. Maybe more Nimrod, like the way they play the songs, take something like nice guys finish last and loss of control

#

I think trilogy has new shit in it too

#

I need to analyze that when I get there

#

I'm about to start AI

deft violet
#

As with everything, Cigarettes and Valentines is the answer here

tiny plover
#

Also MM2020 was clearly written after warning and had strong Nimrod vibes here and there

#

It's clear which songs were written for it

deft violet
#

It alls tracks back to this record

tiny plover
#

I can kinda hear it

#

A little bit

sacred bone
#

Anyone notice the reference to the space line (from i forget the song) in mikes rolling stone interview.

subtle ravine
#

Oh really?

#

Oh true lmao

tiny plover
#

Elon musk doesn't like flat earthers

#

But little does he know, he knows nothing

#

We can see ore

#

More

#

Thru the music delivered

sacred bone
#

Go to green days community posts since nye and filter by new comments. So many republicans are still mad. Its so funny

tiny plover
#

But they see the big picture, as van cough saw it from space

sacred bone
#

what?

tiny plover
#

Flat Earth by The Network

tiny plover
keen pewter
#

been thinking about it and I think ||Father to a Son|| might be the worst on the album lol

sacred bone
#

Do you like your least favorite on this album more or less than your favorite on FOAMF?

keen pewter
#

||FTAS|| isn’t even a bad song

#

actually I’m relistening to it now and I’m taking back my statement

#

idk what the worst song is wah

#

lol for sure

#

let’s not go there

sacred bone
#

Mine are ||suzie chapstick or title track|| neither are bad even just not as good.

keen pewter
#

the only thing that I can confidently say is that this album is better than Father of All, Trilogy and 39SOSH

#

my exact ranking is gonna come with time

#

I’m just way too attached to every other album to say for sure yet

pine jasper
#

Us a few months later

sacred bone
#

I think long term it settles down in B but rn its middle A. I have it 5th overall.

pine jasper
#

I'm ready to get my vinyl

#

I'll probably give my first full listen in this record store world in VRChat with some friends

kind ravine
#

Went to a listening party yesterday at my nearby Zias and halfway through the album they got locked out of the stream lmao. In other words I heard mostly just the singles and a couple new tracks. Gonna die.

#

Yall lucky

sacred bone
#

looks like the studio from the previews

ornate zenith
#

Mike lookin real stable

#

Good luck knocking him over

keen pewter
#

unfortunately need job

azure helm
keen pewter
#

cannot

#

system won’t let it go through

#

it’s street dated for the 19th

azure helm
#

damn clear variant

keen pewter
#

it’s a cool variant

#

I’m tempted to buy it but I don’t need a 4th record

sacred bone
#

what curve?

violet needle
devout monolith
#

I took a nap is it Friday yet

violet needle
#

True

sacred bone
#

Did green day used to reference specific technologies and products. There were a few references to tik tok and insta specifically. probably some others.

static flint
#

i’ve done it so many times

static flint
#

nahhhh

#

greenday > job /j

keen pewter
#

usually the barcodes are apart of the back cover

knotty crow
#

say that you're delivering it to the president and it's imperative that you take the record

keen pewter
#

like printed with the rest

knotty crow
#

or don't idk

brisk pumice
#

😮 WHAT YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN THE VINYL

#

COME ON

keen pewter
#

I could not gotten the vinyl

#

it’s in the backroom of my work lol

brisk pumice
#

|| Rip || it🄹

#

Jk jk

celest hawk
#

You guys really trying to lose this guys job for him šŸ˜‚

keen pewter
#

ur acting like I would have the means to successfully rip a vinyl in the backroom of a Target šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€

devout monolith
#

Who needs money anyway, all we need is our records making our pain go away

static flint
#

exactly

#

bobby sox > money

keen pewter
#

Bobby Sox is pretty damn great

brisk pumice
#

Jk jk unless

static flint
#

it’s so cutesy

brisk pumice
static flint
#

songs about disfunctional relationships are great and all

#

but it’s so sweet🄹

brisk pumice
#

Hehe idk why but I picture Billie being like this

#

Idk how to describe it, poking his cheek?

deft violet
#

It'll leak at any moment if every target has stock. Crazy how many people got their hands on that record in the last few weeks.

brisk pumice
last glen
#

Someone on Twitter got their hands on one yesterday too, not just stores have em now

#

I'm actually shocked it hasn't leaked

deft violet
#

Smh people can't even rip a CD anymore

brisk pumice
deft violet
#

No CD slots on modern laptops cost us the leak

brisk pumice
#

Wasn’t it a giveaway item?

last glen
brisk pumice
#

Tbh it’s not wrong, if I got the CD idk where I’d play it

brisk pumice
last glen
deft violet
#

I have my 1h commute to work in 9 hours. Please give me the album by then.

ornate zenith
#

Wtf you can get a desktop computer without a disk drive?

brisk pumice
ornate zenith
#

RIP

deft violet
last glen
#

If I had it, I have a record player that can rip it and CDs directly to a usb stick. I don't have it though lol

deft violet
#

I haven't seen a cd Drive in years

ornate zenith
#

Yeah my laptop doesn't have one either but my desktop does

deft violet
#

Yeah a month in advance

brisk pumice
#

Ngl I was searching for leaks and I found threads as old as AI and people were posting AI links

subtle ravine
brisk pumice
#

What a time to be alive

last glen
#

FOB reference???

brisk pumice
#

Lemme see if I can find it again!

deft violet
ornate zenith
#

jesus_of_suburbia.exe

brisk pumice
#

Ehh i cant find comments

#

It’s just this

#

Someone’s post on GDA

deft violet
#

GDA was peak GD forum. Sorry guys

static flint
#

is it me or does bobby sox have weezer vibes?

brisk pumice
#

Lmao

#

ā€œBannedā€

deft violet
#

This should be pinned

brisk pumice
#

In a good way

#

Dw

deft violet
#

What do you mean by virgin vibes ?

subtle ravine
#

Yeah Bobby Sox is great lol

knotty crow
#

weezer

deft violet
#

Oh ok

brisk pumice
#

Coma City has blink vibes tbh

subtle ravine
#

I don't see it

brisk pumice
#

The riff

violet needle
deft violet
#

Bobby Sox is Weezer with Deryck Whibley singing

brisk pumice
#

they did like they have with Weezer, but they haven’t really referenced the styles they’ve influenced that much before imo

static flint
brisk pumice
#

I’m not familiar with them to confirm/deny

knotty crow
#

yeah it's a great album

tiny plover
#

I really wanna find old discussions about The Network

subtle ravine
#

I'm hearing it rn this is pretty good stuff

#

Forgot to reply to the message lmao

static flint
#

definitely not making my own poster

tiny plover
#

Probably comments like "nah this aint GD, what is this shit? Ripping off BJ vocals"

subtle ravine
#

I wanted to reply to this lol

tiny plover
#

People at first didn't believe Foxboro were GD

#

Some ppl

#

But BJ vocals changed after AI a bit, so they sounded higher

subtle ravine
#

Yeah

#

The higher vocals started with Foxboro

#

So I can kinda see some ppl not realizing it was him

tiny plover
#

You can hear snippets of it in misery

#

He just decided to not sing that way for a while

#

I'm starting 21st CB in my relistening journey and I realized Foxboro makes sense after warning and AI

#

It's like they took certain things they had tried a bit, but went fully into it

ornate zenith
#

Range-wise he's sat around the same since AI really but he's definitely been more nasally from like 2008 onward

tiny plover
#

MM2020 pt.2 had some interesting vocal experiementing

#

Something he hadn't really done before

subtle ravine
#

Corvette Summer my beloved

#

HUH

#

SIMILAR TO WARNING?

#

LMAOOOOO

brisk pumice
#

I mean it was Warning’s followup

#

Warning was FOAM at some point can you believe it

#

Okay hottest take of the day

#

Hear me out.

static flint
#

oh no

brisk pumice
#

Saviors was great, it’s a solid record. But in terms of lyrics, musical composition and just cohesiveness overall, I think they really can’t top American Idiot. Like. Take the best song on Saviors and compare it to JOS or something.

brisk pumice
#

People are raving how it’s ā€œbetter than AIā€ and I just don’t see it; I don’t want the media to overhype it because then it’ll bring the record down

#

Absolutely; one’s a rock opera and one isn’t. Technically different genres entirely. But nothing stopped them to make another rock opera, or something of the same caliber

#

They had four years

#

Ehhh

subtle ravine
static flint
#

i still think at some point revrad was gonna be a rock opera

brisk pumice
#

There’s nothing on Saviors that sounds ā€œiconicā€ yet. Even songs like Hitchin a Ride have like, an iconic vibe to them. Maybe it hasn’t aged yet, I’m sure some songs will turn into classics but as of yet, it’s solid and I enjoy it but yeah

sacred bone
#

its like the good weezer. the few older songs that still get played on the rock stations.

static flint
#

yeah

subtle ravine
#

This album reminded me why this is my favorite band and that's all i needed man

static flint
#

forever now, somewhere now and outlaws

static flint
#

yeah

subtle ravine
#

Also it's absolutely clear that Saviors was made with love and passion dude, they didn't half ass it at all

static flint
#

i was also thinking troubled times

brisk pumice
static flint
#

it feels like it was meant to be a interlude/ segway into another song

#

exactly

#

from now on

#

rob or themselves do it

brisk pumice
#

But maybe I’ll be wrong when I sit with the album for a while after it releases

static flint
#

cuz revrad was great considering they did the production

subtle ravine
#

I don't want Butch Walker to touch anything else that GD does bro

static flint
#

lmaooo

subtle ravine
static flint
#

nvm

#

don’t let them self produce

subtle ravine
#

But

#

Warning slaps😭

static flint
#

actually no producers

#

just remembered rob produced the trilogy

#

eh

#

ima disagree

subtle ravine
#

I do think Saviors has better production

static flint
#

some songs i really struggle to hear mike

#

then OEB he’s super fucking loud

devout brook
#

OEB sounds really flat

static flint
#

and the less said about LMNB the better

#

that shit is bad

#

it might be worse than 1981

devout brook
#

RevRad and saviors sound similar production wise

static flint
#

yeah i can hear that

#

i just wish it didn’t have SO MANY slow songs😭

last glen
#

The only track I don't like all that much is Corvette Summer, and I don't even hate it either. Love this album so much

static flint
#

ngl

#

didn’t feel suzie chapstick

deft violet
deft violet
rancid arch
#

I’d argue that 21CB was far superior to AI lyrically.

#

It’s the only lyrically DENSE GD album in my opinion, and the only one where you benefit from analyzing it as a literary work.

strong valve
#

Going to the listening party was bad. I need to hear fancy sauce again

#

I require it

violet needle
ornate zenith
#

Revrad has ridiculous dynamic changes that are like jumpscares almost, thank god they ditched that approach with Saviors

violet needle
#

Is it actually known who mixed revrad?

ornate zenith
#

I like dynamic changes, they didn't stop doing that

#

It's how they're mixed, with such a steep volume change

violet needle
#

Id really like another Butch Vig Production - in my opinion, while not my favorite green day album, 21cb has the most interesting production and one of the if not the best mix of their whole discography

ornate zenith
#

Dilemma's verse and chorus are a good example vs. Outlaws

#

Andrew Scheps is an American mix engineer, recording engineer, record producer, and record label owner, based in Los Angeles and the United Kingdom. He received Grammy Awards for Best Rock Album for his work on Red Hot Chili Peppers' Stadium Arcadium, Album of the Year for Adele's 21, and Best Reggae Album for Ziggy Marley's Fly Rasta.

#

Yeah

#

They had a guy behind the board who could work it but they were telling him what to do

mossy talon
#

Still breathing and Forever now carry revrad, and maybe carry it over saviors

violet needle
#

No they produced it, not mixed. Same as rob cavallo didnt mix saviors

#

Wow another one that is way cooler than the original preorder one that i got, great

violet needle
devout brook
#

Revrad might be the worst mixed green day album imho
Either that or kerplunk

violet needle
#

And the trilogy is mixed bland as hell

devout brook
#

Idk
Father of all at least has some punch to it

violet needle
#

Technically the trilogy is mixed really well but its so smooth and bland it doesn’t stand out as a good sound for me

ornate zenith
#

The mixing on the trilogy is fine it's just the choices like guitar tone and all that which are bland

devout brook
#

I like the drum sound on the trilogy

ornate zenith
#

Revrad is the only album post kerplunk that I'd say has bad mixing

devout brook
#

Really punchy

ornate zenith
#

You know how movies these days will have dialog you can barely hear so you turn it up, and then there will be an action scene and it's ridiculously louder and you're like oh shit turn that down

#

That's what revrad is like, that's justb ad mixing having dynamic changes liek that

#

You can have great dynamic range without having the wholeass track go back and forth between quiet and then loud

devout brook
#

Its so noticeable on bouncing off the walls

ornate zenith
#

Imagine if Dilemma had revrad mixing, it would ruin it

#

Yeah the Saviors songs don't have to be so loud overall but within that the mixing is great

lethal harbor
#

funny thing is that revrad has horrible horrible basically nonexistent dynamic range when it comes to the actual mastering

#

the massive jumps in volume are almost like them going look dynamics we have them we promise

ornate zenith
#

Whole track volume up, okay now whole track volume down, great

lethal harbor
#

like there's a hamster fucking with the master fader

ornate zenith
#

Saviors mix is like the anti-revrad

lethal harbor
#

mastering still too loud though

#

makes me sad

#

hoping the vinyl is better

ornate zenith
#

Master is pretty loud but at least it's consistent

lethal harbor
#

for sure

violet needle
ornate zenith
#

Set the volume where you want it and leave it then you're good

lethal harbor
#

CLA isn't a mastering engineer

#

i'm sure CLA's untouched mixes sound absolutely fantastic

#

before being crushed by a limiter in mastering

ornate zenith
#

TIL those are different roles

lethal harbor
#

ted jensen does cla's mastering

violet needle
#

But he makes overly loud, compressed mixes, he is known for it

lethal harbor
#

sure but they don't have to sound so squashed

violet needle
lethal harbor
#

there are better masters of AI, 21CB and nimrod that aren't so loud

#

i don't think so

#

they're meant to sound how you're describing yes but no mix engineer likes what happens in mastering

violet needle
#

He is known for it, look it up - loud and highly compressed

lethal harbor
#

i am literally a professional mix engineer

#

i know

#

there's a difference between carefully applying compression across your mix

#

vs. slamming it with a limiter at the master

lethal harbor
#

still loud and compressed

#

but in a good way

mossy talon
violet needle
#

Well of course, mastering is also way overdone these days, however all i am saying is, that cla is very much known for it and was at the forefront of the loudness war

lethal harbor
#

very true

#

but yeah again CLA doesn't have much if any control over what goes on at the mastering phase

mossy talon
#

I’m not a fan of revrad mixing

violet needle
#

Though i like the 21cb mix way more than ai

#

Just needed to get that out there

#

The only gd album of recent times that i think is really all over the place (even worse than revrad) is foamf, even though i do like that album

lethal harbor
#

usually the whole point of mastering is that the mixer is pretty much detached from it, whole new set of ears doing final adjustments and getting something ready for distribution

#

they answer to the label more than anything

#

but yeah i'm sure if he listened to it and absolutely despised it he'd have to power to veto that shit

#

tbh foamf sonically is pretty great, like it has a thing it's trying to do and it executes it perfectly

violet needle
violet needle
static flint
#

oooo this is stunning

#

also

#

DO YOU WANNA BE MY GIRLFRIEND DO YOU WANNA BE MY BOYFRIEND OOOHOOOHOOO

lethal harbor
#

the vinyl releases are always much less crushed and loud

#

so i'm hoping saviors is the same and them i'm happy

azure helm
#

they gave us lyric books as if green day fans actually know how to read

#

thats funny

static flint
#

hope u know

#

ur named after the worst saviors song

#

read that nerd

azure helm
#

erm

#

okay epic troll

violet needle
# lethal harbor tbh foamf sonically is pretty great, like it has a thing it's trying to do and i...

I disagree, the vocals are drowned out in multiple places and the stereo separation is kind of weird quite often. Theres a whole mess of the stereo field in fire ready aim where it sounds as if the vocals dint even have a center channel somehow. I get that it went for this garage low budget kinda sound but it could have been so much better had it been mixed and produced differently (except junkies on a high, i have no complaints there) - and again i like that record

violet needle
#

This is like the what, 20th exklusive limited edition now?

violet needle
#

Kinda negates the appeal of limited editions

last glen
#

What even is the number of variants now?

azure helm
violet needle
#

Im just a little sad the one i got (from that first preorder batch) is way more boring than the ones that came after that

#

Had i known of these million other variants i woulde waited them out

last glen
#

I'm happy with the one I got, despite there being so many other cool ones now

#

The galaxy one is hawt glad I nabbed it

azure helm
#

they're just using all the unused vinyl pucks atp

#

like yeah lets make fucking neon green saviors and its exclusive to fuckin uhhhhhh walgreens

last glen
#

Yet there's still no 21CB color variants

azure helm
#

me walking into my local vape shop and they got the ugliest looking shade of brown as an exclusive

#

like waow gren day

violet needle
#

I really like the blue marble and clear though

#

The orange one is sick too

#

And im stuck with that boring black pink marble one i believe 🫠

strong valve
#

There’s no way

#

Up to like 30 variants now

last glen
#

And this one is still the best

strong valve
#

I got that one

#

It’s easily the best

last glen
#

Agreed

strong valve
#

Also the zoetrope picture disc. I got that one too

last glen
#

Can't wait to get my hands on it 3 weeks after it drops!!

strong valve
#

That’s the zoetrope picture disc

#

From blood records

#

Limited to 4000

violet needle
#

The initial ones were the most boring

#

These

static flint
#

easily this one

ornate zenith
#

I think @keen pewter Said it first

keen pewter
#

pain no fucking way

ornate zenith
#

I can’t believe they’re already doing it

sacred bone
#

?

keen pewter
#

feeling like this

sacred bone
#

What was the prediction?

keen pewter
ornate zenith
#

That people would be turning Saviors into a 1972 EP

keen pewter
#

I’m going to kill you john

ornate zenith
#

It’s still Sunday I’m invincible

keen pewter
#

THE THREAD JOHN

#

THE WEEKLY SUNDAY THREAD

tired shale
ornate zenith
#

Gonna make a post about how the mods are virgins

keen pewter
#

some fucker named jarred will be in the comments talkin bout ā€œthe mods here fucking SUCK bro they think they know the bandā€

#

😭😭😭😭

#

the fact that you distinguished urself as a mod

ornate zenith
#

Gotta make it obvious

tired shale
#

This is Orwellian indeed!

#

Literally 1984

ornate zenith
#

Literally 1984!

#

Except the 1972 EP post is gone so now "put Saviors in one album" makes no sense

keen pewter
#

I approved your post again so it should show up

ornate zenith
#

It's a paradox, now it makes no sense for me to complain lol

#

Maybe that's better

#

What's this dude yappin about

keen pewter
#

bro came in from yappsville

tired shale
#

Sir Yappington

forest crag
#

Okey I'm loving this new album

#

It has a little bit of everything from their discography and they do be doing it right

#

There are some tunes that remind me of 21cbd, then a pinch of trilogy and a lil bit of Nimrod

tired shale
#

People say this feels like a more appropriate followup to Rev Rad and yeah, I could agree but it's its own beast

forest crag
#

I agree

#

It's so weird to think that foam is was made by green day

#

There's just an abismal difference

#

I'm even considering that it tops revrad

left ocean
#

wtf did i miss all day

forest crag
#

And that comes from someone who listened to that record religiously lmao

sacred bone
left ocean
#

Whats the talk about an ep about

keen pewter
#

Ep in one album

#

???

#

1972

forest crag
#

HIH

#

HUH?

left ocean
#

what does that even mean tho

#

1972 is saviors

keen pewter
#

what if they put in

#

an album?

left ocean
#

wtf does that mean tho?????

#

but 1972 is saviors

#

thats an album

#

im missing something

knotty crow
#

and saviors is 1972

left ocean
#

yeah

#

i dont get it

knotty crow
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hence an EP

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is imminent

left ocean
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how

lethal harbor
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I just think if they took all the best songs off saviors and put them on one album

keen pewter
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If you just

sacred bone
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whats an ep vs an album

left ocean
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this is some weird shit im gone

knotty crow
forest crag
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Is this shitposing?

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Squizoposting

keen pewter
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I’m not even stoned rn

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if I was high this would be so much funnier

lethal harbor
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1972 into an album

knotty crow
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wizardposting in the green day discord server

sacred bone
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josh if you get the album from target worst case you get a new job making licencse plates.

forest crag
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Anyway

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Coma city is soooo good

ornate zenith
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Only thing I've had today is caffeine

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And food

forest crag
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It has such a 21cbd vibeee

keen pewter
knotty crow
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took out a second mortgage to pay for the 35 saviors vinyl variants

sacred bone
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lol

knotty crow
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what do you mean i ā€œdidn’t have to get the ā€œdookie brownā€ variantā€

lethal harbor
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I just like

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bought the black one

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fuck em

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what's a colour

slow crest
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New single

knotty crow
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took money from my son’s college fund to buy the aldi vinyl variant for saviors

lethal harbor
knotty crow
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bro this is just sad

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who is this desperate

keen pewter
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I just sent that in #greenday-chat 😭😭😭

eager swan
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They actually ruined Father to a son. It had so much potential

hearty solar
hearty solar
eager swan
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Idk man after the first two verse and chorus it kinda gets weird just like what they did to Brutal Love

hearty solar
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Living in the 20s

sacred bone
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they even guessed father to a son.

hearty solar
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Dear f**ker of young

sacred bone
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Yes

eager swan
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Suzie Chapstick might become my personal favourite from the album. Ahhhh

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I regret saying it was awful at furst

azure helm
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the suzie chapstick redemption arc

eager swan
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Aw speak of the devil

eager swan
azure helm
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yes

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it went from washed up revrad song to one of the better slow songs on the album

eager swan
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First listen? Or maybe it took a few?

azure helm
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second listen around

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i was lucky enough to catch another party a few hours later

eager swan
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Ya got any free stuff from the party?

azure helm
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way too many posters, 3 lyric books, 2 pins, and a shirt (i went with family)

eager swan
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I really want a saviours sticker so I can stick it on my laptop

jolly zealot
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My listening party is tmr I'm so excited

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I've only heard the singles and the email clip of 1981

deft violet
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Strange Days are Here to Stay sounds like a Bowling for Soup song šŸ—£ļø

fierce trout
deft violet
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Another day without leak

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Young people can't even rip CDs anymore smh

violet needle
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True

eager swan
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Same thing happened with look ma.
We're gona have to wait till friday

left ocean
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im glad no leaks

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doesnt spoil it for me

eager swan
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Even if it leaks you don't have to listen to it though

left ocean
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True

brisk pumice
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Not a leak but I found someone who made covers of all the songs

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On youtube

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They’re pretty good tbh

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When I said all the songs I meant most

subtle ravine
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Fancy Sauce is so damn good dude

violet needle
dense pumice
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From reddit

brisk pumice
knotty cloud
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Im surprised the album have not leaked yet

ornate zenith
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Surprisingly I think the listening parties helped prevent/delay that

deft violet
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I'm pretty sure leakers are just afraid of @ornate zenith

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I had Suzie Chapstick stuck in my head all morning. Such a chill song.

ornate zenith
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Speaking of which, gotta set up our own listening party up in here

eager arch
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That's happening?

dense pumice
knotty cloud
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Suzie Chapstick is really good

ornate zenith
dense pumice
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Ah ok 🤘

knotty cloud
eager arch
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I'll have the album Thursday lol

ornate zenith
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I’ll have it at midnight EST which is when the listening party will be

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Haven’t heard the whole thing yet still just singles

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Gonna make announcement in a bit