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hc mudkipp is kinda broken in ultra league
swampert?
yes lmao
@pastel mulch no lol
4 years ago my neighbor moved because she could hear strange noises and screams in the middle of the night
she never realized that was me playing horror games or shooting games
the move charges so damn fast and it outpowers most leading pokemon
Hiii.... I m new here
Why were u screaming while playin those
ill just walk out
Oh really, you dont get those sudden OHMAI GADH AHHAHAAHA HA when youre so close to something and suddenly die?
Jump scares i guess
hi nelson
like when you just get a quadra kill and then run for your life and nearly made itt_-?
Do you guys play Black Desert
GO*
Yeah I play that too
@topaz terrace shundo lefy?
@paper rain no u go
Hi NoNy
nestreport
@balmy marlin no paaji
In my region there are only one gym and five pokestops
I blame kites for that @topaz terrace
Me too
๐ฉ
Hi kites
@solemn aspen behave
So what is a candy hunt ?
Hello
With nearby proximity
Check pins #candy_hunt more info
How can I found tatsumaki command
Type !help in #tatsumaki
Or what is tatsumaki
BoT game
@wet torrent any issues?

what happened?
Do we need to be at the same place to trade?
yes magknight
@wispy fjord yes
Do we need to be at the same place to trade?
@wispy fjord ๐๐
Even with frnds?
Yes
yes
Yes
@wispy fjord yes
@wet torrent Do explain more what do you mean it isnt working?
they are working for me @wet torrent not internet issue?
Guys how can we evolve pokemon using upgrade
Maybe he is below lvl 30
Can I trade pokemon again whom traded
yes
send it to my dm
but do note special trade is once per day
Does anyone played pokemon sun?
used to
Im kinda confused
@odd horizon only one or two mons can be evolved by upgrade
@drifting charm so which pokemons
@opal root so only one pokemon can be evolve
You should save them... Community day of porygon is around the corner
@opal root ahhh I don't even have that pokemon
U will get on cday
Can we increase the appraise level of a pokemon
No
You cant change the iv's
You can power it up to increase Combat power(CP)
@drifting charm what about while trading....... Does the appraise level increases
it may increase or decrease
Yea... Or mirror trade with someone and wish for luck
not guaranteed always
Most of the time it decrease ๐
@opal root yeah I got a lucky pokemom while trading
lucky has a floor iv of 12/12/12
That's so lucky of you
@drifting charm thnx
112th check :)
Hiii every one ๐ ๐
Hi there
Hi๐๐ป
Why can I chat in Pokรฉdex100
I wanna show image
My Shiny
Can anyone help me
Pls
no u cant
@pastel mulch donate or nitro booster
@pastel mulch need to be donor or nitro booster to post screenshots in #pokeflex100
Or u can dm kites
Ok
Good
@pastel mulch dm tank he is for that work
That's a privilege which donors gets
you are free to describe your image here thou
We r pogo buddies๐
Always keep pulling each other legs
I need to bully someone since omega doesn't type here when I'm around
Oo
Are you guys brothers or what?
@drifting charm correct
u can see k in both names
:pepoleave:
bully yourself then. Try farming for a shundo cress 
Does anybody know why i cant uninstall google play services?
๐ค
@tulip bramble bcz your phone cant work without it๐
Wdym?
Because of your security patch i guess
I mean uh updates
@tulip bramble thats bcz of latest security patch
Security patch?
Find device should be off
Check pins in #android_ios_support it has full detailed guide on root / downgrade
@tulip bramble rooted droid or downgrade for android and ipogo for iOS also check pins in #android_ios_support
Already did
if you have any issue following the steps, fill up the form and ask in #android_ios_support
Ok thanks
Buy a old second hand phone๐
@tacit oasis in #friends_trading_party not here
I spent 1 Elite Fast TM & 2 Elite Charge TM on my Rank 1 Dewgong
cool!
I have 5 remotes stacked. Has the allowance changed?
max 5
Max 4
5
Yโall spoofing
Can you still get ex raid pass?
Is there any channel which tells about the shiny rate??
#shiny_hunt pins
^
others are normal 1/450
pertaining to wild mons
Alright thank you
@ocean shadow post in #friends_trading_party
What all Pokemon will be featured for candy hunt
Mega king is the host
Meaning
๐
Meaning I can't understanding
Hmm
trade -> #friends_trading_party
trade โ chatroom
Chat related to any trade is done in #friends_trading_party
No my name is karthikeya
Thank u
no u
Formula
Tanky is typing ...
Do i need to defeat all 3 rocket leaders each time I want another super rocket radar or are those not available now?
Not available
hello @pastel hearth @balmy marlin @topaz terrace cuties
Thanks! I only ever battle Sierra
same
Sierra only๐
Lol

๐ ๐ ๐
L2ยถ frequently spawns
he kinda cute 2
everyone is cute
๐ค
Formula๐
kites
pro gamers in chat
๐
What will be the reward for rank 8 in gbl
No u
helyea

I just love ppl who use obstagoon
I donut love them
Y bro
The boost!!!!!
i love ๐ฉ
What move gives boost tho?
Night slash
I just got around my first pineapple pizza and I'm a believer now
y'all ever had donut holes
I miss donut holes

Use to eat them all the time at work
๐ฉ
I just got around my first pineapple pizza and I'm a believer now
@topaz terrace ๐ฅบ
๐
Goes well with watermelon coffee
@balmy marlin dm
๐ณ
๐ ๐
First he called u cute now this hmmm....
gotta go fast
lol

Be me
time to see whats up with chatroom
reads the exchange between formula and l2p
aight imma head out
Anyone ever try adding people for pvp in the friends channel? Do people actually accept battles in your experience ?
you guys are just jealous ๐
:jello:
real 4am hours
breathes in
@jade condor yea but youโll have better luck if the person mentions pvp/battling in their post. Random adds arenโt so likely to accept battle requests
Aaaaaactually
Its 3:42am
pushes glasses up anime style
Wait hol up I actually have the emote for this occasion



Reality ๐ค

your reality*
same tbh ngl
whats the guys name from log horizon
he always be pushing up glasses, very pog champ
Goku
shiro from shin-chan





FURRET

no shiny cress yet gamers :(
If we didn't complete 2 million mega raids despite the current Tier 5 raid boss during this event, Heatran, being a less than exciting raid choice, then it means two things: first is that there just isn't enough interest in this broken system to drive sales, and the second is that we, as a community, actually said "No" to Niantic with our wallets.
congrats
we said no
@balmy marlin

@balmy marlin u don't have from last time?
12 down, now using free passes ha
Hey okaay so I'm in midway rn I restarted my app to midway..and now I just go to an active raid and open gym window ? I'll get yesterday's pass?
@topaz terrace i did on my old account but uhh im on a different one now
@runic flower yes
If u haven't received it yesterday
^
Any new york routes meg or razz berry. Are there any potion tasks
@terse dew you can use nycpokemap for potion/revive tasks, they are not posted in #field_quests usually
mega routes will be posted in a few hrs
nyc field quest will probably be back when its morning there
OK thanxs
I think that is speculation running wild. Even if we didn't do 2M mega raids, (which is highly unlikely) Nia would simply tweak the numbers. They r probably delayed because of the off-time or maybe they r trying to tie it in with some later event
Mesprit coordinates anyone?
@marble sage check the pins in #bot_commands for instructions to get the lake trio role
Nincada is currently unavailable in game, correct?
I was wondering why it was pinned in shiny hunt. So that's why
Is it available as incense spawn?
Wild
@marble sage check the pins in #bot_commands for instructions to get the lake trio role
@zenith spruce
Ummm I could not understand what u meant. Could you please dumb it down for me?
Type ?laketrio_me in #bot_commands
They will spawn in #candy #2000cp #2600cp and you'll be notified. Or check #donation_info to gain access to #lake_trio channel.@marble sage
Got it! Thanks!
amay for the win 

Hey
Is there anyway to instantly get an email when a certain pokemon shows up on the board? I am looking for an unown X and I always miss it by like an hour or two.
@silver drum check out #donation_info for silver. That seems to be the closest for what youโre looking for
Searching for an aerodactyl.....Last quest to claim meltan....damnnnn
Yeah
Yeah....but i didn't complete the previous quest

The reason I asked is because I get an email a several times about candy hunts, etc. So i just assumed maybe there was a way to get one for a pokemon.
Trade a pokemon ...
Hmm
๐ญ
@quartz marlin aero is still reward after win 5 raids
Also, the bots are pretty smart. Im sure they could be programmed to comply.
I wanna ask somethin,if i were to be invited to a raid and if i use a premium/daily raid pass would the softban reset?
Omg
i would stop lol
Hmm
Hmm
@upbeat folio if you ball/berry the mon i would assume so
๐ค
yeah hes been here awhile, he knows 
@tardy basin please donโt do that here
@floral surge aight ty
would of figured after the first time the bot deletes it, it would be obvious XD
@tardy basin if you do it again, I will have to ban you.
๐ฆ
1hp
can waste all your potions, 1 hp won't be refilled
What did Navbean do that is against the rules? Just asking so i dont do it.
@silver drum read #rules_and_guide
Somebady have dragonite for trade
is trading even worth it if ur not max friends?
@floral surge j donโt know ๐๐คช
for normal trades yes
@pearl shoal its random no matter what
for lucky chance, try for best
@balmy marlin is it for youtube
just curious then for any one that spoofs, is there even apoint of normal trades?
unless its for shinies
@floral surge yes
yes, 2016 ones have chances of almost being a guaranteed lucky, as for normal trades you can get lucky just trade enough
Anyone ya a do charizard y
100 trades per day give me 2-5 luckies on an average
even if ur not max friend? @tacit charm
@placid geode #friends_trading_party
the process is extremely slow and tedious though.
There
@placid geode #friends_trading_party
@floral surge yes
but problem is you can't be sure of which mon will be lucky
Wish bulk trade was a thing
unless you have 2016 mons, or if your a best friend
Like you select em all together
@balmy marlin atleast remove the YT from your name. please
I mean if ur already going through the process of doing 100 trades xd might as well get 100 of one poke u want
xd
Don't have to do it one by one
due to #rules_and_guide cant be promoting anything other than dex100
@floral surge why?
I hate all of pogo's animations, wastes a lot of time
I played a lot of MMORPGS, already used to doing annoying stuff long grinding process for small gains xd
thank god quick catch is there for catching atleast.
just answered why. please and thank you
And bulk transfer exists
Hey can someone defeat a gym for me its in NYC
use an alt
And bulk transfer exists
@sly estuary not for legs
@floral surge do u play among us
Yea and meltan
I still have to transfer hundreds of legs one by one
Yea meltan transfer piss me off
legs?
i wish there was an app to remove animations
Legendary
oh got it
How to report in raid member?
Who plays among us
what you wanna report
@random wraith report what
People posting false information for raid
Dm me a pic of the info that is false and Iโll check it
@tardy basin no among us among us๐
Post says it is boosted
but it was not
Yea those shit heads exist
@random wraith dm one of us
ah see
We will look into it and address the issue
anyone here spoofed to NYC?
No worries : )
atleast you did not waste your pass
Did u?
no
Oh
We donโt think itโs funny. So report it if thereโs a problem.
Yea but it makes me lose my previous coord
im still waiting on the DM 
yeah you could report it
But no need to dwell on the issue in this channel
Hey. How do the shiny hunts work ?
you click and hope
@frozen dew you check coords for shiny chance
bunch of coordinates of pokemons that have a chance of becoming a shiny
you check on hundos which have shinies in the game
its all RNG still
I crossed 1k checks for that little scorpion
Yea I got a shiny lilipup when I woke up this morning on my legit account
And you can't check all because of cooldown right ?
I really wanted luxray shiny but too bad it was gym only
drapion?
I crossed 1k checks for that little scorpion
@tacit charm
I will start today
skorupi
Drapion shiny is ๐คฎ
oh
@tacit charm
I will start today
@sly estuary best of luck!

^ good
Don't evolve
Yea
yeah
Hell yeah
Hell yeah
Hell yeah
no u
no u
yes u
Hell no
Hell no
havens yes
Ok cya guys ima play among us
town of salem best
Need drake emote on that
town of salem??
Why is 100iv beldum hard
hard?
it was a higher spawn last event :x
To find
what do you mean town of salemm??
there were around 5 or so hundo beldums since this morning.
@solemn summit if cords for a raid, #raid_members
@tacit charm where ?
@elfin kiln itโs a rare spawn
#100community there
:overratedrapperlaughter:
๐
search beldum in: channel you want
i bet he checked only lvl30 channel
Nope
lol
oh ok
Even on cooldown can we join L5 raid and catch boss?
no
we can't
No
brrrr
Yea
another checked on main. not shiny. that makes 16
l2p you did you start any new anime ?
using new emotes
using the same 10 I always use
Lol
I crossed 1k checks for that little scorpion
@tacit charm for Shundo on 1450th check and another random just now after maybe 50 random clicks
*got
yeah typical rng
Is there an easy way to find Shiny 100 IVs?
nope
Nah
Keep checking
yes on community days
Houndour was my worst..dexed with 96 shiny on spotlight hour
More checks.
Go for boosted rates
@misty sinew nah, i need to finish like 12 more episodes of black clover. took a break so i can binge more 
split screen between pogo and discord makes it easier
soon
It wasnโt so ez before quarentine
Any guesses on checks

We used to only get 3 hours
not willing to check that much more for a shiny with evo not having the better look
Some like that
Houndour was my worst..dexed with 96 shiny on spotlight hour
@analog drift I didn't bother about it
:feelsweebman:
11-2
3947 checks
Yโall remember the old com days where there was only 3 waves.
For the stupid black sog
my pogo screen become wide when i splitscreen
Dog
damn, you are jobless xD
i member
is scyther also boosted by this event?
It is still boosted
I've never done 2.5k+ checks for any mon, let alone 4k checks
scyther always has
Life was stressful then tryin to shundo hunt on com days lol
Now with this timezone stuff I can sleep the whole day away and still have like 8hrs to check
only 3 people in lobby of a mega raid in zaragoza. Is that even possible?
no one cares
yes

okay 17 now
,
,
why
Hey when, most of you guys look for shiny, whats the lowest iv your willing to look for?
Now with this timezone stuff I can sleep the whole day away and still have like 8hrs to check
@fossil marsh blessing, applies to spotlight and other local-time based events as well
0iv
Has anyone seen a weedle in pvp community?
Shero
why
Don't ask here
really 0 shiny?
@wheat summit you're basically asking to get scammed
Get yours or get from an irl friend
^
Don't give credentials to a stranger ever
i don't care about ivs
oh lul
I have animal crossing too
still, dont ask here : )
I have a shiny 0% banette from 2017 :3
But we care.. soo.
But I dont play it 
Where can I find charmnder nest or good to place to catch?
I'll get mine on Halloween
@trail fulcrum #nest_report
Thanks

i got lets go like 3 days ago, beat 2nd gym and haven't touched since
looking for cofagrigus shiny on halloween.
gamer here ๐

I wud prolly find out whats in area 51 when I die
chandelure
โฑ๏ธ 
Shiny litwick plz

:pogofgreed:
why dont i has
need shinies of: chandelure, haxorus, beartic, haxorus, rampardos, haxorus, staraptor, haxorus
very pog
Oh wait
Haxorus 4 times
thats ghost
:3
ye ghost type
Haxorus 2 times
@sly estuary I don't mind an army of hundo haxorus
Due to my userpic, Iโm probably grookey from gen 8
altho I keep one of each pokemon
I got a hundo and a lucky 98iv
the reason why my I don't have 1k mons yet
same
I got a hundo and a lucky 98iv
@sly estuary ah lucky hundo would be cool
rillaiboom omega
My alt has lundo deino ๐คฆโโ๏ธ

2500 and I keep running outta storage
drum beater
๐ฅด
you can make a ton of alts like OhmyJosh, raid with each till you get shinies of wanted legs and then trade at best friend to attempt to get shlundos
^
question : how do you finish the 5 energy field quests
he took 30-40 avg to get 1 shlundo
yeah I talked to him
he has 90 non-hundo leg shinies
and rest 5 shlundos
so rate isn't bad
also how do you get great throws consintantly
considering they are pretty rare, I aim to get atleast 1
prepping my alts to get to best friend now
Practice , aim the circle
great is easy to get, excellent is hard on small circle mons
Git good
you'll eventually get to it, I recommend practicing the spinda quests
till your frustrated
Git good
@sly estuary github?
problem is there is no consistent graph that shows great
Yea lol
git push origin -f
well does he know what great throws are?
Does anyone knows why no WEEDLE in pvp community?
git fsck (filesystem check)
yeah XD ik excellent great throws
git rev-list --count --since="Aug 1 2016" --before="Sep 13 2020" --all --no-merges
rarer to spawn a rank 1 coords. Also #pvp_community has way lesser coords than the donor pvp channel.
i get them when I try sometimes
Am pretty confident in my git skills
bug event still on going, mayb you will get one soon \ o /
but its impossible for me to hit 3 in a row
it's super easy
gonna try to get that campus expert badge from github when the applications re-open
can you guys get 3 in a row?
Am pretty confident in my git skills
@tacit charm
afraid of git rebase? ๐
@tacit charm
afraid of git rebase? ๐
@sly estuary I don't do rebase
Is there any chatroom for adding new friends ? Bcs i have a quest to Add 3 new friends. can some1 give me his ID
also changing histories is bad during collaborative work
also feel free to add others that has their fc stated there as well.
Yea
I did change during GSoC once, but thankfully I was working alone lol
XWiki perhaps
@violet jungle I get it know, thanks
either R (working on RegEx re2r cran package) or with CNCF on some system engineering stuff
Np, cheers
XWiki perhaps
@sly estuary wikimedia.org?
Yea.. it gives dev related projects
I think one of my friends did that, vanshika arora
Or any dev org
Hey Guys on Friday 6am Singapore local Time Iโll host 6 hours
Speedraids nonstop only on Dex100 #raid_speed_chain Channel
To be notified plz use ?raider_me for the Raider role in #bot_commands

Or any dev org
@sly estuary nice, for web I guess there a lot of orgs
this year too I saw a ton of javascript tagged projects
Yea.. but I have to git gud first

you will, keep working hard (and starve distractions!)
pls type !rep MukiโชRaiddaddyโจโก on #tatsumaki to show support
Hey if i raid nd don't catch the pokemon, will it reset the cooldown..??
nope
no
no
OK thanx...
@urban kayak sorry for asking, but how do people usually raid alot without paying $$
alts
you don't
and with the 1 coin box, + daily pass, you can easily raid 5 raids per acc
yes
Or have tons of accounts
I have crossed 1.5k raids since raid invites
Or buy boxes from pokecoins u collected so far
That guy that everyone hates
haha
Yea
but okay in a lobby of 20
and people be wondering "why zara raids takes 2mins"
Thankfully all aren't you
xD
sometimes you will be the only one attacking while others enjoying
sometimes I do tap okay, when am jobless
anybody having cresselias?
i wanna remote raid
got my Shiny 
@austere latch seen it happened before. 6 man on an unown raid but no one attacks 
Congratz Kavin!!
Congrats!
after 12 checks ๐
great
oh yeah i had that with rayquaza didn't catch that, so mad
for rayquaza I did tap, dodge and help a lot at the first
1 coin box is daily?
then after I crossed my 500th ray raid, I got bored
Raven u know neumorphism design!?
ah
Apple going that way too
nice
hi
so you mostly deal with UI right?
Ppl switching from flat design ui to neumorphism
and with the 1 coin box, + daily pass, you can easily raid 5 raids per acc
@violet jungle but that's only like once a week or when they release it right?
the box
so you mostly deal with UI right?
@tacit charm
Front-end developer
Ppl switching from flat design ui to neumorphism
@sly estuary what aspects does it have?
@tacit charm
Front-end developer
@sly estuary yep, same (almost xD)
Awesome ๐
this <
lol
whose?
@charred sierra yes
more like only this week, not really onc a week. I wish it was 
Giveaway
hahaha
but you get the point I hope.
ye
mine exceeds 130+ wpm sometimes
i raid like twice a day or so
otherwise 130
Keyboard typing is faster
am getting a mechanical keyboard for me soon
it feels kinda satisfying to murder the keys
RGB keyboard is dope
I have backlit on my laptop
nope stealth is the way to go
just need the pressure dab sound reverb effect
you can't break cooldown
any good place to do multiple raids with 8+ members help pls?
Can breaking cooldown,v lead to ban ?
@sage spade
Respect cooldown.. they ban seeing the spoofing methods not journal
hellon peeps
@sage spade you cant break it lol
@tacit charm will show u when it's ready.. rest you know my GitHub handle๐
you cant get banned for smth you cant break 
I have an old mac air.. it runs android studio code like a charm
@sly estuary sweet..am thinking to get mac but I want to get more experience on linux, and so am switching to a linux based environment for the moment (trying golang stuff) for my setup I have no problem apart from the laptop screen, so am thinking to plug an extra monitor via a docking station
@dense vector not here, use #friends_trading_party
Linux is best os
@dense vector #friends_trading_party
I ran a MacOS-build via docker this summer..it is annoying with the bugs it has
Go for the distro u like
yes, root will agree too.
I don't have $$$ xD
want to go for masters, it will cost one kidney
you mean reset? nah
@hard aspen if you're mentioning an app, please dont
@dense vector you will get muted pls post it in #friends_trading_party
No asking for key here please @hard aspen
not here
don't ask that here
@dense vector dude. post in #friends_trading_party
Nothing about that app in this server as we dont support it.
nope. Cuz it isnt safe
even for sponsored app we as well as them recommend only alts
^
I am not able to use the coordinates becoz in getting location not found error
Error 12
also the sponsored app is pretty much the only option now 
and the not supported ones are not safe at all
Cactus jack touched me
@rancid dew might be ur spoofing installation not compelte, ask in #android_ios_support according to the format
Okay
he probably installed a gps joystick and thinking it will work like those good old times
I dont know. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
hence, is better to ask in that channel according to the format
Why pogo doesn't support spen of Samsung notes?
spen?
Stylus
no useless things
it was an appstore
with the name of tutu that rabbit
where you downloaded modded pogo
What does that cooldown of 2 hours mean?
it means you cant do anything in an 2 hour period
Okay and how do i avoid such a cooldown @violet jungle
you can't
@sage spade nah lolol. Niantic only detects your spoofing method. Dont need to be that paranoid
Nothing happens, just your 1k shundo check fleeing.
yeah in that cooldown it will be like sightseeing nothing happens
or raid pass being consume but getting kicked out of lobby in raids.
Okay thx
@balmy marlin read pins in #tips_and_tricks
it has a detailed guide on cooldown there
How become pokefan here
@fallen iron start by helpin around in here
like me
make good jokes
And Don't steal Ash's Pikachu
@austere latch so helpful ty
lol
Thxx @sage spade @violet jungle
Cheers tafel!
@sage spade ok
@fallen iron its a helper role. if you are not sure how to do that you shouldnt opt for it
@solid plume why
see i am such a helpful person
@sage spade as of now we don't see the need of it.
Any have gurdurr
@solid plume I can help everyone here
Some do why? @west cobalt
@fallen iron aight goodluck then!
if you are interested in trading, use #friends_trading_party
@solid plume ๐
Hmm thats well weird I didnt catch or spin anything since last night
and I'm soft banned :v
@steep stag yes
best way is to show support by becoming gold member and be serious about it
@sage spade it's permanent ban ๐๐
@steep stag you might have accidently triggered it. catching and spinning isnt the only way to trigger it
Not exactly helpful lol mister rocket
@sage spade its a legit term, we call it cooldown
best way is to show support by becoming gold member and be serious about it
@austere latch ๐
softban is exaggerated term for cooldown
yeap.
@violet jungle you need to wait 2hrs
huh? 
lol
He knows lol

๐๐๐๐
Welcome back
Pins
Who cares
@fallen iron stop it dude
๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ
Hmm
@fallen iron i would recommend before you spam emotes read #rules_and_guide
^
@austere latch I would recommend u turn on the lights
no way they are scary
Hey tank
Sup
Tank tops
@austere latch @sage spade ok I don't know that sorry
Gta pog in the chat
GTA?
i have never left my bunker so i don't need lights
Stinglikeabee
If things go south, you can blame Tank
Ripazha
Cjphonehome
i finished gta iv previous week
If they go anywhere else blame kites
@austere latch in ps4
Fannymagnet
no
Ok
San Andreas?
pc for life
Ps5 reveal. On 16th
@sage spade ohh that's nice
Hope it's not super expensive
they havnt announce season 4 pose ? n rewards yet?
Reveal isn't is already revealed
it will be the same
@sage spade I struck on some missions
With cheaper Xbox hope it's also cheaper
It looks like galar regiesteel as per the memes
@solemn aspen They never do. Those are always datamined
@sage spade give me older one ๐๐
Next gen gaming coming up
it has already come up














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