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@sonic citrus always a new name whenever I see you.
96 probs best I’ll get
Jaja
So long as you have ticket then yes @fluid oak
Jaja
Ye 96 is v nice
they can report you until Jesus returns, it won't mean anything unless you give them proof of your violating ToS
15/13/15
@rigid badger mundo darumaka first

a mundo?
Yeah was the other day
LIES

Dayum
Bruh
I've deleted everyone off my local, I just wish there was a way of knowing if the people adding you were people from here or not lol
Don’t add randoms
last dm I got from bot of darumaka was Tuesday l25
there is
And nickname them
@obtuse swift i a friend just like that... takes like 2 months for him to even max one mon lol
don't add randoms or share your code willy nilly
Have*
No Mundo DarumakA until now.
Few baby DarumakA only
Makamaka
I only add people who are worthy
Me too
when you wanna add somebody from here, send them your code or get their code.....then nickname them with their Discord name
Lol
Tbh i actually call him "you cheap f" 😂
In which place is the community day gonna be starting 1st
if I saw a mundo I woulda caught instantly
😈
you’d probably be asleep, jlw
You’re welcome to be blessed
@carmine thistle you added me it doesn't count
or your phone would be dead
😔
all my friends from here are nicknamed s#1 (name) or s#2 (name)
He would never spend 100k to get a 2nd move. If he does, im forcing him to do it lol
😂
You’re alive ain’t u?
Always mundo
Well could always start by asking what time it is... Then if people respond with a time that matches yours you'll know they live on at least the same side of the planet as you XD @tacit prairie
So is asking here if anyone is in a specific local POGO server not allowed?
@sterile schooner shush
hello ghostie
and everyone is gonna be like
Hello JLW!
👀
@rigid shuttle you can ask, it’s just kinda an odd question lol

need to get some rhyhorn candies today
Some awesome nests to check out if so 😄
Has it been 72 hours yet :( I can’t play
@whole terrace
just in case he decides to avoid shining for me tomo
Lord I can’t type today
Unlikely
@lazy the time question or if anyone is from the local server? Or both Lol
You can’t type everyday*
either or

Ah ok
most people probably won’t respond haha
True XD
since all my friends are divided into 3 groups
L# = locals (1 for pvp, 2 for raiders)
P# and P* = pvp (# for GoStadium,* for Atticus Nair)
S# = spoofers (1 for priority, 2 for secondary)
or will think you’re kinda missing some screws
Stupid question that’s probably already been asked 100x before but my dumb butt hasn’t found the answer: how does a gym’s defending team affect raid mechanics?
heads a bit loose mate
LOL
You get more pokeballs if it’s your team @fair lily
Bless you, Hai.
you also get a higher catch rate
You’re blessed
🙏
bless hai
Papa bless
and if it's a gold gym, an even higher catch rate
So
Ooo gotcha. Thanks for educating my idiot brain.
you still waiting for the ipa to send code? @rigid badger
I was looking for the answer for like 20 mins now while half awake.
Me asks if anyone here is from my local PoGo server
A lurking spy from local server: sees it, reports to mods in local server and I get banned
XDD
@coral agate sadly
oof
Not what happened... Imagine though
Ironic.
Can any1 tell where to look for the souvenir
Random @delicate falcon
I got 2
what time and date will be the first cd start?
Where do u have them
I put my IGN On friends section , so sokone could read through and see add me and I wouldn't know , right, anyone fancy DM me , add me , or the proper way put IG on friends , and then if you add me , DM so I know its from here or not, or am I being a idiot , help lol
In bag
@zinc valley check pinned messages in #eventnews
What souvenir
@zinc valley check the timer pinned in: #event_news
The f
Where do u keep ur souvenirs
@tacit prairie dm the person and exchange friend codes so you both know each other ign
The ones ur buddy gives u
What are those anyway? I don’t have buddies
That's what I mean, but on friends/PvP , you put on your code , random people add you , so its hard to know , get what I mean?
Don’t put your code
? Help lol
Dm them instead
I met someone in my local server and we dm'd for a bit after I told him I could "get" him the regionals he was looking for... Was super risky but in the end he was like "Lol idc I want regionals pls" XD
Found them thanks
Good luck on that one hai
Nou
Nothng imp just gifts from ur buddy
aight thanks guus
😅
guys
It’s trash
Ahhhh, don't put my own , just click on the person who wants to be friends , DM them
Wicked smaht guy ovah heeya
Can you get the sinnoh stones from go battle league in Sydney?
Stop being a smarty pants
@rigid badger 🥰
@balmy marlin 😙
Yes @swift matrix
@thorny rune no
walk around with my gps, my internet switches between wifi and mobilnet like twice
do I lose that pokemon ?:D
@rigid badger when can you get them?
or if I keep it at screen its fine
Sorry @rigid badger being stupid is a gift of mine
Should be fine
@thorny rune niantic forgot your turn the feature on
why i am not getting candy hunt notifaction even though i follow the procedure
i want this lvl30 azelf :x
@rigid badger rip
Ok I’m kms
@swift matrix if you go too far from the encounter, you will lose it, but switching internet should be okay
its like while the phone was in my pocket my gps surely switched to original from spoof
Is there a ban wave coming?
but when I'll try to catch soon it will be on spoof location
You should be fine if you’re fine
well for me it does :x
like if I walk around without my joystick being stuck in any direction so my avatar is moving
then my gps will pick up and teleport to my original location
No
Trade me that instead thx
No, me :)
I said it second
we can all get one
Omg I hate you and your Pokémon home
Can i get 10 sinnoh stones now if i spoof to kiribati?
@mighty bone no
Lol you played yourself then
LOL
No? Okay
It doesn’t tell me where I can play the first cd on event news
Feature wasn’t turned on apparently or something @mighty bone
@thick narwhal it will be there when it’s closer. There will be coords
Do not fret
Bad
Nothing in life is free.
i hve 20 shundo sneasel, better trade for rare shiny mons instead
I’ll pass on your pkhexed shiny dex
:)
Uh huh
Is ISpoofer back up, boys?
yes
Nice!
Is friendship event started?
@formal gorge 👉 #event_news
is vmos ok to play as fakegps without rooting the phone?
Shiny voltorb for Philly Ooo
give me hellp iv100
seems like ispoofers get banned more often than VMOS users.
@balmy marlin that doesn't change the fact that you can't post here.
the mexico one?
Guys, anyone know where to get good and updated gpx route?
Goyang / Monterrey
@sudden horizon file pinned in #tips_and_tricks
oh
i saw something on twitter earlier
Go to #bot_commands and use the command ?dex100_me and pass the Dex quiz for the Pokedex100 role. This will give you access to more channels like #100community use the community link @naive lake
There’s still an Australian one too
Does feeding your buddy count as CD?
no
hmmm
How much time for he first place to start the CD
a good bit
press play to start cd
Only philly has its shiny listed so far >_>
For sinoh stone try Trainer battle. I got mine.
LoL
You are barb mob
That’s me

Any hippo nests?
*hairflip*
mob don’t u live near philly
Non yet
They're on it
He loves philly cheese steak
They're working on the nests
they made philly’s Safari Zone sound so American
No
Here’s a map
Safari zone shinies also debut out to the public as well?
Follow it to my heart
@latent dust eventually yea
so it looks like CD will start first in Mother Russia before Kiritimati
russia is yugeeee
Stranger Things 4
cheeki breeki
Adidas tracksuit
popek
@unkempt cape sorry man , discord didn't notify me when you tagged me . How are you?
Flops
Flips
I guess new gen 5 Pokémon before May
Hey Gab!
probs
Sorry I haven’t been playing. I’ve been revoked
Hoping for another wave
Hey Hai!
I think they can fit more than one wave
Haha don't worry. Just send gifts whenever you get time
the Philly announcements says Rufflet will be available before the Safari Zone
they might still do 2 waves
Each safari zone should release a new mon imo
they want to be done with gen 5
theres lots of mons remaining
the pace has picked up since the start
Vullaby plssss
@cyan relic DM
What’s vullaby
Where will the first com day start
I don’t get why Philly listed it’s shiny but not the other two
it will slow the f down when kalos comes
Are the other two not getting one?
Yeah we've had Gen 5 pretty fast
somewhere in russia is the first cd
Merica
MURICA
Vullaby evolves into Mandibuzz
Wasnt liverpool getting lanturn?
What’s mandibuzz
Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, Russia
Chinchou is th e assumed shiny release for Liverpool @dawn zealot
Yeah that Liverpool exclusive Lanturn
How can darkness fly
yes thats lanturn
When you catch, it belts out You'll Never Walk Alone
@rigid badger ask lm10
ye nothing confirmed for Louis/Liverpool
But not confirmed
I walk alone on the boulevard of broken dreams
Watch there not be a new shiny released lol
You walk this lonely road
Philly has shiny voltorb
Well they did say and it isnt out yet
lol
For Louis and Liverpool that would be shizzy but hilarious
shiny teddiursa
Free items
my guess for st louis
Ha
then niantic says jk
Lol SIKE
get rekt
It’s just weird to announce one but not the other two
pwneddddd
especially after Liverpool’s stuff
Won't Japan be the first to get Com day
oh lord
Jynx might end up in an event
Electabuzz
@finite ocean no it will be posted when the first place starts
Niantic must be banking off live events cause we have a total of 9 this year
Jynx for next International Women's Day
they have been putting baby evos as shiny in wild recently
seem to be their aim recently
I think their financial reports came back bad last year cos they've been churning out hatch events like crazy this year
especially since babies are gone
That or a shiny legendary is their best cash cow
they adjusted the hatching events for next month tho
It’s because raids have been trash
Yeah
Where’s my shiny ray
Got to incentivise spending somewhere else
@rigid badger open my gifts and I'll give you one
I still have like 14 of them left 🤢
I have one
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Should do 1 new then 1 old shiny
It cant be helped
I just hate when legendaries overlap
Me too
So you raid stuff like Ho Oh and Latios simultaneously
I am absolutely not liking regigigas in ex raids
Genuinely the worst when they don't give a decent legendary it's own ample window
I've stopped doing them lol
like for what reason does he still exist
Too much effort to plan my time around it esp when they're in Asia or something
should have been done long ago
Which one of those ryhorn nests is good?
NYC ex raids are fine for my time zone but the Taiwanese ones are like 5am-8am lol
Places to spoof in new Zealand
nice pfp btw didnt know you were into anime 🙃
I'm not
@neon merlin it is the topmost one usually
Im into Haikyuu
Oo
🌚
Haha
The poems?
fairs
Not many stops there
Idk why but I think Niantic is keeping gigas till the first Safari Zone
Best anime ever bar FMA B
@brisk abyss are you asking for community day?
👍
Has anyone seen any axew?
@zenith spruce no, for now (for the regionals)
Nah
well it is not like they are gonna make them exclusive to fest
I don’t think Go Fest but Liverpool makes sense
Haikus
Need regular kyurem first
since the extra pass
Three forms. Plenty of ex milking potential
I doubt raids in extra pass are worth it
There’s an order to all this
@brisk abyss visit #100iv_access then check the pinned messages of #candy for coords to find all regionals
Kyurem black and white are last gen 5 legends in that order
10 free raids is 10 free raids
I think they're ensuring everyone gets a Regigigas with that explorer pass
Then will rotate after
10 free predetermined raids lol
10 free t5 raids sounds more like it
its a mix
with different mons
It's not all T5
i mean it should have been that way
1 EX*
I just don’t get if we’ll be able to raid the same thing more then once or nah
Liverpool is a sh**hole anyways
Oof
Don't really need to see the city lol
yeah it’s one EX and whatever the legendary is
I dont think you can raid more than once
I’m buying the explorer for each cause I need the badges
Let's keep it PG 😉
🙃
U get a different badge?
He means champion
^
He needs the raids badge
Oh
I’m only 300 away and 400 for the legendary
Only
This is but a minor dent lol
And he has like a 50+ passes stacked
Rock wrecker any good?
yes
Yes
When he needs 700 passes lol
there’s 6 Safari Zones -2 that don’t have the extra
as good as any other cd move
40 free raids
Rock Wrecker is a blast burn clone
Is there anyway to check pvp iv’s using iphone ?
@agile sonnet u r from Liverpool?
It’s a community day move clone
Cos I am. And it’s not a sh*thole. So keep ur opinion to yourself
But it's really strong much better than smack down
Liverpool fan see
Lol
Thanks guys... the best ground type?
No pvp iv’s check i guess gonna use hoogle chrome 😦
Sorry stone age
Not ground
Lol
People often make the mistake
Sorry rock.
but it is the best rock move
Best DPS*TDO
over rock slide too
Ok. Thanks. My bad
if Rampardos actually got this it will be so potent
Yep
Who’s been hit by the 30 day ban?
idk why but this text is funny to me
safari_2020_dialogue_1_0
Wow, %PLAYERNAME%! That was such an exciting journey.
lol
ramp 😎
But rampardos is hard to power up and evolve
Wow guys
get a level 35 lol
Where's the countdown for community day?
I just love how Niantic doesn’t do each Safari Zone/Go Fest special research differently
It spawns rarely
it spawns from time to time
I missed 3 lvl 35
It’ll spawn like crazy during adventure week
What goes with rock wrecker for new attack? Surf, superpower, earthquake, stone edge?
It always spawns at night time
i will hit level 40 before adventure week i guess
Surf
For what
What goes with rock wrecker for new attack? Surf, superpower, earthquake, stone edge?
🤔
For pvp surf
What goes with rock wrecker for new attack? Surf, superpower, earthquake, stone edge?
technically nothing
Well I'm in GMT+5:30 many spawned during my daytime
Lol
How to find gym you’ve lost track of? I got a ex-raid pass
I hit lvl 30 last month so only got few hundos
Don’t need a second move unless doing pvp
to get coords
Thx!
np
Planning to use for great league pvp
And I play on my parents phone so can't play all day only at breakfast and dinner
I am in DIRE need of stardust
@real yew I wouldn’t lol
😢
It's better in masters league
Are ass
Ultra is too difficult. Im not pvp fan. 😁. I struggle doin great league. 😅
I'm not a fan of them themed cups at all
Wasting dust on something you'll use in barely 10 games nope from me
rhy is too squishy
Ok. Thanks for the tip. 🙏
tbh the restrictions are a bit too much now
Bastiodon is a better rock type in GL
@dawn zealot did you see my buddy
finally haha
Man I was watching Brandon Tan yday
And he got a 98% Shiny shadow Mawile lol
So basically a shundo purified
I was pretty jel
Bruh that guy
ew
i seriously will never figure out what brandon does for a job
He's a content creator
theres no way he makes that much from YT
That guy is ew
oh chris, I noticed you finally got your shiny shadow pinsir
But he doesn't need to work. His parents are accountants for a big Singapore law firm
probs
Brandon tan made a lot of money with his service too
he never has sponsors either
Can anyone give me the e alolan starters? -.-'
Not probs. I know lol
Ye @storm dome
"service" haha
@woeful moth #friends_trading_party
Whut
Gross tbh
Lol
Oh hahaha
hard to tag on pc
I would have paid for his service if I was legit and didn’t have the time
Nobody ever complained about it
His service was a rip lol
Didn't he got banned for the mewtwo service
wrongfully imo
$100 for him to do your raids. You had to provide the passes lol
Can we go to safai with explorer pass without not physically being there ?
Nah rightfully
That guy charges sky high prices.
You don’t invite someone for an interview - talk about his service - then ban him because your community whines
He was taking advantage but also account sharing. That's in the TOS
i never got why acc sharing is against tos of all companies
did they interview him? I thought it was him advertising everywhere so they emailed him questioning it
Wasn't like a sit down with the #1 player
Loss of profit @dawn zealot
Yes he said in his recap he did an interview with them at Go Fest and they knew about his service then and didn’t mind it
but literally everyone does it lol
The interview got trashed once the mew two thing happened though which is obv PR
having multiple accs is against tos as well
Guys how to enjoy community day in all 3 regions Tomo rrow
The ban was justified though cos he was technically breaking the TOS blatantly
First region is which countries in northern hemisphere?
But even then why wait to ban him. That doesn’t make sense
@wind folio some russian area it will be posted in due time
Ok thanks
$$$$
Why not ban him when he first started doing it? When he got noticed by CNN Asia or even talk to him about it at Go Fest
it’s just stupid timing
Which poke you recommend to go with char + giratina
swampert is always a safe option
clefable
I know I'm late, but.....Silph Cups have a ton of repeats
Bidoof
and even the pokemon that don't get repeated much, they are pretty good anyway
Bidoof needs nerf
Powering up for a silph cup is a waste tho
too op
it is ranking
it's only a bad investment when people try to go really really off-meta
Volvo
Steelix, Azumarill, Alolan Marowak, Venusaur, Golbat, Skarmory, Charizard, etc have been great in every cup they could be played in
Fortnite ninja
Hundo larv can’t get cords
I won't fit
Oh ok
This post was made by 3 letter name gang
this is a spoofing-friendly server, sharing an ign is advertising to Niantic
it's a level 17, why even go for it?
So like this Reaper and then my discord numbers
Yeah
possibly shundo regardless of level
Need more marowak raids 😥
Why @rigid badger
👀
🤦🏻
lel
Now that I have Pinsir I just need one more beldum then idk what to do
go for the shundo
There will be some new ones 😂😂
Prep for incineroar vgc @karmic stag
after March
March 1st
To match your buddy name and discord name @winged socket
friendship event increases lucky chance too?
Which is like 8 days
When will sinnoh stones be given after you battle?
I mean for the new shadow mons lol
bleeeeh
I hope gible is finally released as a shiny shadow
I don’t think Gible will be
Lv 13
Still don’t even have the base form as a shadow yet
Not till after it’s comm day
Is there a way to catch pokemon without actually catching them?
yes
Like the pokemon go plus thingy
Gotcha
Is Gotcha free?
No
nope
heard that theres a banwave is it still safe to spoof for the comm day?
Always a risk when you’re cheating
spoofings never safe
Oof thanks for the info
ha ha wise man @rigid badger
pretty sure every mon is in the network as a shadow
but that doesn’t really mean anything
wouldn't say every mon
Skarmory, Altaria, Golbat, Tropius, Venusaur, Steelix, Bastiodon, Forretress, Wigglytuff, Azumarill, Poliwrath, Lapras, Whiscash, Swampert, Charizard, Alolan Marowak, Haunter, Linoone
finally got my shadow ninetails took a while to find it
always viable when allowed
but still, means nothing if it’s in the code
means
Just like the anti cheat code
shiny mew, celebi, Jirachi have been in the code and we’re still confused as to why
neither of those is always used
shiny mew for 2030 ♿
huh guess im behind then
the pokemon I listed are in every cup that they are eligible in
is premium access down? or did i forget to pay my bill?
Alolan Raichu has been trash in some cups
true true but it has many uses a bit to squishy tho
Toxicroak was good in Twilight Cup originally, but then was trash the next time
also was trash in Boulder Cup
@slow citrus stop talking about pvp Kotu is crazy
the same happened in Nightmare Cup
lel @obtuse swift i like pvp tho
Back away slowly
KotU is nuts when it comes to pvp
@obtuse swift dw if they talk too much pvp I will just spam mundo panda
Toxicroak was good, then in the 2nd go round Gardevoir had Charm and Toxicroak wasn't the best pokemon anymore
PvP 🗑 🚮
Shiny voltorb emote pls
Thanks dad
✨✨
MUMDO
JESUS....I just realized how busted Nightmare Cup would be now
MUNDO
y
shiny voltorb ✨
yeah that seems a bit one sided @stuck kernel
SLMUNDO
shmundo
SHLUMUNDO
MUNDO
wait shadow shiny is
😂
ssmundo ?:x
@karmic stag
Hit me with the panda
Yas
#pvp_talk
Anyone being suspended?
today for the first time in like 90 battles total
@abstract siren a few
May i know the reason?
Volt Switch Achu, Charmevoir, Toxicroak, Snarl Amuk
it was amazing
the newest update of ispoofer had shit
Yes true and I suffer bro @solid plume
@slow citrus some don't like it....at all
Niantic was just like hold our beer
we initially thought it was just direct and their crappy certs but we were wrong
Is shiny volturb released tomorrow
no
No
releases May 8th
May 8
gets released on the philly safari
May 8th
@karmic stag ok
Yes you are correct brother @solid plume
@balmy marlin u got hit too?
Yes 30 day suspension
:/
rip rhyhorn day :c
wonder if they fixed it
So no suggested to install newest direct dl?
cuz niantic should force the update today
Yes
Be legit 4heads
Rip
No time for legit
wopz and michael dont use direct
they have 30 days now
Ouch for them
Didn’t Michael use direct for the RW?
Just quit PoGo
Is it still theories or was it confirmed the issue was 0.167.1?
wouldn’t it be possible for Niantic (since the last addition to anti-cheat) pull that up and see they’re on strike 2?
Cos I know they rolled back to 0.165.2
Anti cheat code time
the issue was the newest ipa yea, the ones who auto updated got hit
Oof
well the whole point of that code was for niantic to be able to pull up strikes easier on their end x:
Never auto update, kids
Yeah I did to 3.5.5 and got hit
Yeah I manually updated literally a few hours before it was reported giving 30Days
Never listen to bogdan kids, but he is right
And never trust the sketchy dude either
so if i buy a ticket for a safari zone i can spoof there?
@thorny frost yes
But I didn't snipe much. Just left account in Zaragoza doing loops and i downloaded 0.165.2 once it came back
So probably avoided issues
is it worth it to buy one? this safari zone sounds great
Then again I didn't even get a RW last time lol
Is it possible not to buy ticket? And just spoof there?
No
@thorny frost if u want random shinies then yes
Yeah I assume just being on the app is an issue
You need a ticket to see the spawns
Ahhh okay
He can buy the tickets
But oh well. Spoof knowing the consequences so if it happens, it happens
for @balmy marlin
for @solid plume
Who’s your favorite indian?
Chicken tikka masala
nvm guys, i forget to pay my bill
I'm fond of Kumar from Harold and Kumar
Should we ask lord seany?
🥺
0:o
u know I will delete ur tag bog
😩
😳
Hello guys, just asking, i am having problem as in when I click coordinates on 100community, it is either not loading or loading slowly. Anybody knows what’s the problem ? Appreciate for any advice 🙏🏻
🥱
Signed in to my netflix account after i gave my friend my account and she renamed my profile to Pufi
😩
i never had netflix 😦
👊🏼😩
🏴☠️ 😦
@bold mantle check ur connection, clear cache if it still persists reinstall the app
I don’t download torrents because I’m afraid the fbi will come to my House
they dont give a shet about that in middle europe yet
🐱
I’ll send the Peshmerga there instead
like the biggest torrent site in my country once fked around with the police
Indians ruining the world economy
Someone help me wiv the new ispoofer
Thanks @solid plume will try
What’s new
np
I didn't auto update but I updated too fast and should have waited but you never know when it's coming, maybe I'll just wait each update now till they force it to be sure, granted I probably won't spoof on my main again lol which means it will stop being my main and my secondary account will become my main as it has no strikes atm
CHONKY
supposedly they upgraded their servers and they gave out info about where their servers are, like they put their old ones in a warehouse and got the police to go there and they thought they got the site D:
and I have like 16 accounts so I can keep doing that for a while
MUNDO
armored mewtwo cant be shiny right?
right
Nope
shiny party hat armored mewtwo u mean?
kk thx
Armoured mewtrash
No better than a fortnite skin
cause if I had to play this game legit, it'd be have to be like the main game I played if I wanted to get anything done in the game, I'd have to spend like 3-4+ hours a day or some nastiness and not play it on the side like I can now while doing other things lol
Cool story
Rood
lol
🤪
Nony!?
Nony at your service
there will be SAND in philly
MUNDO
SANDUNDO
SHUNSANDO
yessss
Rickie that rhy was my second lucky trade in 3 trades
i’m definitely gonna buy a philly ticket
Ohh
Hai gave me a random Axew for my dex and it went lucky too
@balmy marlin you shiny yet?
lul
I got more now than I did when the rate was boosted
what spoofer thing is available on pc
Don’t spoof on pc
kk
damn it theres 4 magmar here idk which one is the hundo smh my head
Lol
ok found it
Was an update forced? 165.2 the latest?
was in the middle of all 4
So is 3.5.3 safe?
Alright, cool
My legs aren’t safe tbh
guys to get the dm for hundos, is donation required?
No
wes wth
huh...
how to request?
Request this
nuts?
|| unzips ||
lmao
why
ohhhhhh
On pvp?
thanks thanks
Nah I’m not that crazy
Was 2nd move and powering up a 96 lucario
Bought the move as a riolu tho
second move is not needed unless u pvp tho
😹
aura sphere is enough
Is it two special trades per day now?
no
Yeah but PuP for rocket leaders
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pup for rockets tho
Pity
yea good for shields
Yeah I got PuP and aura
So my aura has 2 moves too

