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@shrewd sand coz this niantic ppl r idiot
anyone know a lured up place in singapore?
@shrewd sand i don't know but i kept getting stuck there and not being able to join the raid again, got error 0 when i restarted game and went to new lobby.
@tight folio there r lots of lures in singapore i thinm
Just wait the update and click whats new and youll see "bug fixes"
@past relic wow this is so stupid
Lol
i mean like the clustered lures @glacial otter
It's keeping me from my shiny shinx ๐ข @shrewd sand very very stupid indeed
@tight folio botanic garden
new tricks to sell more passes
thabk you
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Does collecting weekly sync rewards reset cool down?
@soft oriole nope..i dont think
I can't even hatch a shiny baby lol I'm not wasting money on passes or incubators ๐
@soft oriole how can it reset..?๐ฌ
@shrewd sand @past relic when that happens, exit to the street, click on the gym, spin the gym disc, then go to the raid
I'm not sure
@main linden u own this discord
if pogo says that 90%chance of hatching shiny babies...then too i wont waste money on it @past relic
only if gauranteed shiny baby..then sure
Lol @dull ember ๐๐๐
@stuck kernel Damnnn then my anxiety of not wanting to be on cool down for a not shiny shinx will pop up and I will just leave lol but thank you for the fix
@dull ember actually he is owned by owner of this server
absol raid posted in #raid_members if any of you want it's shiny version ๐ 
@shrewd sand froze the screen for a mundo chansey
@glacial otter try saying the banned words and see what will happen
@past relic to avoid that problem, always do private lobbies for shinx raids
@keen void i caught that on my main
Where i can see banned words?
@dull emberhahaha๐คฃ
already got muted...i know the consequences๐
botanic garden sems to be not lured up
and lost score
If you girl, put your hand up
any other places??
@stuck kernel i will do that from now on, hoping to see shiny shinx before 100 raids
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guys can someone trll me the best way to pick the best possible line up for pvp?
Cause im a boy
once got muted i was like....now i cant join giveaways n cant do anything...just sit n watch ppl
If you boy, put your feet up please
I miss that chansey ๐ญ didn't get the notification
Lol dont feed the troll
any place in sinagpore?
@primal kindle same ๐ฆ
๐ ๐
@pure harness same
but tbh...after that thing i earned the role
Do you guys think there is any significance with luxray on the new loading screen? ๐
@lilac citrus diligence, hardwork, and many simulations...pokebattler, gamepress, and pvpoke can be a huge help in that
@past relic maybe shinx in wild
Hopefully, been wanting that shiny
Shinx ain't going to the wild
First person to answer this question is the winner! Whats the cork thing with feathers used in a game of badminton and battledore?
ik
Lol shinx only can found at raid battles ๐
@glacial otter I wish ๐ that would be the only way of finding a shiny for me
Answer it in chatroom if u know the answer
its a rumour
Yea sadly๐
sinnoh stone
A price maybe given for correct answers
@dull ember wonder if that word is banned lol
@dull ember whats the price?
I don't want vulgar
Its not a bad word
Starts with shuttle
@dull ember duck..?
Ends with another word for rooster
Gm all
Gm
No fun at all
@dull ember sinnoh stone
@grand mirage good morning
@dull emberrackets
Shuttlecrock lol take away the r @dull ember
Whatโs up where is the channel for yโall pvp tournaments ?
@dull ember we call here it as shuttle cork
and those are mostly duck and rest plastic
@dull ember do you mean correct without the letter r lol
@lean sluice its #friends_trading_party
How to gain XP fastest in new account
I said tournaments
Made a need acc
Is there one
Pokedex has no interests in tournaments
Need to make it 30 by today
No clue
Thatโs why
dang it, GK still got me
@stuck kernel rip
even with me using a 0 instead of an o
Pp reply to my question
@keen void the offical name is what i need
you ask too many questions
I am sorry. Was that a trap. I thought it was a game contest !!!
you're over your quota
This game ๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ ok ttyl
@past relic yes
snowy coord?
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Hahahah @dull ember
@dull ember chock
can u remake the question?
Shuttlecโขck
@hardy cradle hey
Thats it?
Ots not a vulgar word
slowly hunting for the perfect pachirisu
Hii nang ๐ @visual igloo
@dull ember then type it out
@soft oriole i did
If u got the ding-a-ling
Your here lol ๐
Once more
@soft oriole well i guess i dont
Gate keeper just deleted it
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@dull ember you owe me for that @main linden summons
Sometime this chat is really hard to follow
not really
@stuck kernel ur prize was to meet gatekeeper
Yeahhh but i'm just hiding cause it already by curfew, i must go to sleep ๐
Does anybody here play competitive pokemon? On showdown for example?
Its 1132pm ๐
@hardy cradle๐คฃ
@main linden i would have his babies
whats ingress??
?
The better of the niantic games
Where the pokemon usualky spawn @glacial otter
@glacial otter
available on play store ? or its like switch.
Lol jahaha
Whatโs going on ? This person set a contest question and demands us to answer at chat... all get we is a Warning - Watch your language. We were deliberately set up to get the warning
@glacial otter its different from Pogo
Gatekeeper protects us from team mystic
You know @fathom gorge thats the challenge
If you cant find a way to say it then you cant get a prize ๐๐
@fathom gorgeit was a trap...if u repeated that thing...u were abt to get muted for it
@glacial otter no hack portals and take other factions portals away
what was the challenge again?
But 100% rules enfored so u cant spoof
Anybody know a discord for spoofers who take down rouge trainers. My buddys and I do it when people ask but I feel like there is a community where we can go and help. Basically there are some trainers who bully or are just **** heads in the community and people ask us to take them from gyms as much as we can.
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@jaunty isle thats really agressive for a video game
๐ค๐๐ฆ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐
๐ tahts the challenge
I win, thank you very much
Wah
Pls add me guys I need gifts for eggs
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@dull ember can ge get yhe prize?
@high hearth no codes in the chatroom go to #friends_trading_party
HahahHah
So where then Ohh wait sry
@neon steppe ill dm u ur prize
oh lol I didn't even know there's a prize
@high hearth click the link thank you
@neon steppe ill have ur babies 2
oh uh, sorry, not interested
I thoughtthat you are kidding bro @dull ember
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@dull ember basically we arent being agressive it spreads our gym badge collection and we are helping trainers who are in a community. Like one was a small town and this would ride around and throw eggs at trainers trying to take gyms they were in and always being aggressive. Its worked in a few places so far.
@neon steppe ok than
@dull ember ohh...so bwing legit..is not much of fun..if we r addicted to spoof
@hardy cradle broette* or bra*
@hardy cradle u will he back in a min...suree!!
@glacial otter to ingress, you will get banned for spoofers in that game after an hour
I wont
I only have 6 hrs of sleep
so if i spoof in pogo it wont affect ingress...
@glacial otter no but the stops are somewhat linked
@hardy cradlego n get that sleeeeep
Goodnight nang @visual igloo
Nope
See you tomorrow
@hardy cradle๐
@hardy cradle good night early to school tom lol ๐
@jaunty isle so u wanna make pogo less fun for other players so u can get gold badge at the gym?
@glacial otter two different games
guys when u spoof u just dont have to spin pokestops or catch mons for 2 hours right
u can evolve mons?
Work Fake Go plus Well as original Nintendo?
@pure harnessshinchan๐ ๐
10:40 am where Iโm at
Guys i have to evolve an eevee in day to espeon. And it's night here so can i go to US and evolve it?
Will it complete the quest?
Ohh @glacial otter
In-game it Should be day time
Work Japan (rebuild) Go Plus like original Nintendo Go Plus?
@last aurora yes and yes
@last aurora go somewhere where its still day
@worldly arrow
Ok
@dull ember its making it more fun for.the.community. how is ot less.fun? The people run around fighting people we dont do it to players who do nothing wrong but on a community stand these people are in the wrong so something is being done about it. Those are the people making the game less fun
seems my guess was wrong
Can i be banned If i use rebuild from AliExpress or eBay
seems my guess was wrong
It is based on the ingame time @last aurora
@jaunty isle but the spirit is to. Constantly battle and take gyms
@dull ember exactly. Not to throw eggs at people who are trying to take your gyms.
@jaunty isle what community do you speak of?
but with tons of golden barries...u cant defeat any gyms
n if the gym hve a blissey...then nesrly impossible
lol
Up in pa @dusty ocean
There are people who do this to trainers trying to fight gyns
eevee lit
Work Japan (rebuild) Go Plus like original Nintendo Go Plus? Can i be banned If i use rebuild from AliExpress or eBay?
Who want mundo eevee male #100community
@thorny dragon probably not, feel free to dm me a link
What reward for catch 20 luvdisc
Chansey
I just got a task to make 3 friends, can a few of you Dm me codes please
Yep doesnโt work before you say pvp
by any chance high spown nest
shiny pokemon now ??

Lol
Has chansey started nesting as of valentineโs event?
No
๐ญ
Tell me about it
The whatโs the best way to farm the candies
#field_quests @night junco
Catch 20 luvdisc
Oh is that a new one??
I just got the 7 day warning what should I do
Hi guys I'm a returning player and want to know how to get Sinnoh Stone
So donโt play for 7 days
I mean you can, dont spoof @bronze token
easy
by any chance high spown nest
shiny pokemon now ??
No @hybrid thicket
Is there a chance for drop against compute
Can anyone share cords with snow?
Yes @lofty estuary just once
Once per day?
Yes
Gotcha thanks a bunch
You can earn up to 3 in pvp @lofty estuary
How low is the drop rate though?
I know :/
Can anyone share cords with snow?pls
Alright thanjs
Witch egg is Bonsly baby ?
Ok thanks
@livid flint great, Thx
Algรบn espaรฑol?
@edgy shell english only please
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@livid flint great, Thx.
guys can u do team leader battles while waiting for cd before sniping
or does that restart the cd
so it doesnt affect ccd
Groudon can't learn earthquake?
It can @manic mirage
Try on a diff groudon maybe but that happens some times. .u wastes alot of tms b/c of that
Oh ok thanks
Hello all, anyone spoofed using the smalia method. Please dm me. Have a few questions
Just 2 @glacial otter
last time i wasted around 15 tms to get the attck...it was swapping for only 2 attcks
@livid flintohh...good tho
I too wasted alot of tms for getting a shaow ball raikou
Charge tms?
All
yeah just chuck tm's, not worth

sub 2 PewDiePie โ๐ฅ
Alguien que me ayude a poder visualizar las cc de los pokemons 100 iv
@livid flintryt now i hve 90 fast tym n 80 chrged ones
No me aparecen

english @orchid lintel
@orchid lintel ban
@orchid lintelEndlisg only...
Lol
or face the wrath of mods
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Nah I will help him if he needs
I dont know what he doesnt see
@daring cloak I have L40
Which city is beat in south africa ?
Cape Town
@coral vortex lol then what can i do
Hello all, anyone spoofed using the smalia method. Please dm me. Have a few questions. Not sure why the game is not loading for me.. do I need to lock the bootloader?
L35 is not a big deal
Ask around in #android_ios_support @real current
Did u downloaded the new apk? @real current
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@coral vortex its 100iv though
@daring cloak mine too๐คฆ ๐คท
Anyone else noticed that the lucky rate are worse than ever?
@daring cloakmine too ๐คฆ
No need to mention those๐ ๐ ๐ค
chill
i havent mentioned to u
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DM mod๐
@grim star pm a verifier (pink names)
i am lvl 32 so its good for me
@coral vortex thanks
Dm a verifier,pokefan or acetrainer @grim star
@balmy marlin thanks.
Question: does claiming the weekly progress rewards affect cooldown?
No
Thanks @quaint palm
I want catch any shiny pokmon ..what can i do best choice..help me
Keep checking the mons in the wild that can be shiny u will eventually get one @hybrid thicket
Or follow the shiny hunt in #shiny_hunt whenever it happens @hybrid thicket
ok !! Very thnaks
Best bet, go for the ones that spawn the most... right now Snubbull & Luvdisc
Follow the event featured shiny
They will have highest spawn rates which makes higher chances to find
@livid flint ya
Or do what @livid flint said on top of using coord list on ++ and you'll definitely get some
@hybrid thicket
Everyone..thanks for help โก
I am back
wb zaf
Hello
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c:
Hello there
mornin

โ๏ธ
yes
double yes
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:)
Tempted on the hundo wobuffet
by any chance free find pokemon app or wepsite ....?
^
Truth
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Is there an easier way to create gpx files from the field quests routes rather than having to delete all the ","s and stuff
Which app you using
fake gps routes and go
Then deleting all the , might be the only solution
Fair enough, thank you ๐

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Best fake GPS?
Comes down to personal preference but imo GPS Joystick by Appninjas is the best
It's give red warning?
You can get red warning from spoofing on any app
Spoofing is against their TOS
So you risk no matter what
As far as I know no specific app will ever get you banned. With the exception for ++ maybe ๐ค
@neon steppe ++ isnt immune to the bans
But as trell said spoofing will get you banned sooner or later
Iโd like to see where you get this info from
That ++ is immune to bans
And the others arenโt
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Ban immunity!?
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"Boss we're trying to ban the spoofers but their app is resisting!"
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@unborn tiger unless ur niantic employee and u apoof
Ban harder!
Ooo my account was banned and.... Click... Unbanned now
Brb I need water, I'm laughing too hard at my own joke
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go to the gym chop^^
make it two. its better^^
I'll go tomorrow morning for a swim but I need rest ;_;
I am not going down that path again
I burnt myself out working out
come to dark side of life^^
I was there, not going back
Hola again @unborn tiger
Working out gave me anxiety. Not working out gave me anxiety.
Hola
10 sessions a week
You have anxiety attacks?
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Pokemon to working out...
No, but performance anxiety tied to my gym sessions back in the day
10 sessions are too much
im fine with one workout session + climbing/squash a week
Squash seems fun
I work out so I can eat as much as I wish ๐
Aka so I can be fat without being fat ๐
lol
Plus my brain works so much better when I stay active lol
yea, somehow
Then you didn't do legs hard enough
How long till this valentines event ends
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21.2
LUL
Damn now I wanna play The Division and stomp on Joker
I'm gonna find him and spawncamp him
play apex^^
just watch until he turns one of his dolls into a voodoo doll for you
Fight me GK
and starts licking it
That was on purpose
Hahah
What I meant to say is, I wish that the game Apex dies a slow and horrible death and never returns cause it's just like every other BR
Fortnite is dead, and Apex will die as well
its like every hyped game
We need a BR game purge
What does BR mean
Does IV CP and level change when pokemon traded?
But yea, waking up from bed this morning and realizing it's monday:
Life is soup, I am a fork
we need a new age of empires games^^
Battle Royale
Okey
whats br?
Meh
Then it gets overrun by some other game
brazil
And it dies
Battle Royale
Scrolling is hard
@candid lintel
@quaint palm haha. good one^^
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BR also is the short form of BASURA
Basura saging @quaint palm
First BR game I played was H1
To be honest I'd like to see a warcraft 4
and that's about it
and maybe an age of empires 4
Guys does IV, CP and level change when pokemon traded, all three?
They did announce a WC3 Remake
Hey if I had an account I'd like to sell where would I go about selling it?
IV yes. CP by default yes. Level only if you trade a high level pokemon to someone lower @gusty moss
with better graphics
i wanna see a pokemon mmorpg for pc
I don't
try the internet getrobed its goof for that stuff
since the announcemnet of aoe4 we never heard anything about it. that was 1.5 years ago
@chop thanks
Oh damn there's gonna be a Division 2?
Gimme FF7 HD
why not @unborn tiger
Just looked at earlier starter community days.
The pattern is grass>fire>water
Should be treecko community day in march.
This pantern has so far been true since both gen 1 and 2 had same pantern
Because Game Freak is busy making the latest pokemon games for the actual platform it's supposed to be played on. And just like PoGO is taken over by Niantic, a potential MMORPG of Pokemon for PC would be taken over by some other company
Meaning it's going to be just as overhyped as PoGO and die just like pogo did
What do you get for the quest: catch 20 luvdisk?
Chansey
Lmao
hey guysss
One night with chansey

location snowy weather?
@still valley any particular website
Does claiming your weekly reward thing trigger cooldown?
No

Bulbasaur>charmander>squirtle
Chikorita>cyndaquil>totodile
Treecko>torchic>mudkip
I miss the Kyogre and Groudon event ๐ญ
@unborn tiger arent all pokemon players pogo players?
I wouldn't go that far
It is not going to come back soon @gilded helm
one night in paris
wouldnt say, if you say pogo is dead, that pokemon is also not very popular atm?
But I would consider pogo and platform 2 seperates
Yes
Quick question: what does "sta" stand for again? For IVs- ATK, DEF, STA
Stamina
After this event I am interested in next raid boss ! Dialga or Shiny Ray ?
Rt
@quaint pelican cheers! Trying to explain IV to a friend but forgot what Sta stands for lol
I still need to get my hands on a rayquaza
No worries I have had moments like that
True but I will prepare good party for raids this time
Hello @quaint pelican
Can someone please dm me snow cords for a meltan box
@balmy marlin cringe
Iโve never bothered building up an amazing raid party bc every t5 raid has like 20 people doing it
Itโll be beat regardless
@twilit dune cringe
@quaint pelican any ideas what i should eat for dinner today?^^
Iโm working on my Dialga team currently
Pizza and red wine @proud wagon
machamp army
Ugh this event sucks, cant even find a shundo luvdisc
Yes , machamps will be best for Dialga
we need some Mundo machop cords in 100iv channel ๐
Machamps will be best for everything lol
Can someone please explain how to get sinnoh stones, i am doing the trainer/leader battles but havent gotten a single one. Is it just bad luck or am I doing something wrong?
hmm. pizza calzone
i wanna play next pokemon but i wanna wait for final version of switch before i do.(like new 2ds xl for 3ds family)
@proud wagon we are bout to get pizza
Yay @quaint pelican
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Pizzaaaaa 
I am hungry ๐
Brb
any location snowy weather?0
?0
weather forcasts for countries
as its not something players monitor and report to
i think
It was snowing a while ago in Newyork, Central Park.. not sure if it still is... check it out @plain compass
@gilded helm how do u get cords for snowy locarions?
@gilded helm need it too
DM me
Check Chicago
Still snowing in Boston.
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Rickiee... now you are just being Naughty ๐ก
what does the term mundo mean?
np
and my Mundo Groudon fled... ha ha !
Need ingame snow at this moment
so can we talk about something else ๐
Letโs talk about rickiee and how she does her hair

That goth emo teen fashion
@gilded helm yes i am Dutch
โ๏ธ
ur emo we all know

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What
@vagrant slate 
I just put if there is a new event on japan
i not speak inglish, pokedex100 stoped?
stopped?
No we still here
stopped?
@cosmic phoenix no we are always working
stopped?
stoopid
:O, No it is still working as you can chat here @cosmic phoenix
Does anyone know if shiny drowzee has been nix? Iโve seen 1465 and no shiny
oh
@bleak latch its out there
@bleak latch is still available
ur luck has just been terrible
Hes asking if he doesnt speak English will he be unable to talk here
@bleak latch definitely keep checking
It's the dialect
oh
by brother got his shiny drowsee as his 3rd pokemon
damn im dumb
How you write in spanish doesnt translate well
google translator ?
Depends on where you from.
Are you sure he isn't asking if it stopped because nobody has been verifying hundos in a while?
C'mon it's not easy to translate every sentence ๐
Not all spanish is the same

It's in the dialect


Jaja
damn I almost suggested a guy in the support channel to go to #android_ios_support
sorry guys kkk, 100community stopped?
lol
Btw did you guys read about the datamined team change item?
Why no update on 90&100Community?!
@cosmic phoenix NOOOOO
Almost or.you did? @solid plume
@cosmic phoenix โค
lol
nvm
if there aren't post in #100community doesn't mean that we are dead
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It kind of does

What are you doing
You


:GWlovTogaEvil: :GWumuGasm: :GWuraOchakoEvil: :GWumuAngry:
@solid plume well you also get a whole year to farm for it ๐


Lol

If there a way I can get an estimate of how much I can sell my account for?
note not trying to sell my account on here just asking a question
Can anyone help me for meltan box?
:GWlovTogaSmile: :GWnyannKannaLick: :GWumuAngry: :GWuraOchakoEvil:

@neon steppe I saw a screenshot where it was 100k not sure if its true or not. but damn that would suck


@candid widget regardless of trying to sell or not, here's not the place to ask
@dull ember

@carmine thistle
Simply google it

:GWumuSmug: :GWumuThink: :GWumuGasm:
I did try to simply google it

lol poor leeks
Any in-game snowy weather?



@dull ember
And
Well, then you're out of luck here
Depends on the amount of hundo's @candid widget
K
Think we need to go back to our room
Wth does GW mean
lvl 36 krabby on 100iv?
there isn't another room for chat 
@tardy ruin you can check Anchorage Alaska was snowing there earlier
In mostly every emote on discord theres GW in its name
@tame rampart i have 80+ hundos, 3 shundos, bunch of CD and non CD shinies. Level 40
@dark gorge hi
@gilded helm lol. Solo. Task
hi

Lol
:GWumuMHX: :GWumuAngry: :GWuraOchakoEvil: :GWumuGasm:
She said hi
@green merlin it was a mistake
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GWokey
wow god

looks like its been taken down now
L34
in #100community
Ttar, metagross, and mamoswine so not lame ones either
3 shundos are pretty easy to come by on comu days
GWnice
lol
Any place with windy weather
Finally caught a shiny shinx ๐
Iโm awake!


Any place with windy weather
The Windy City
:GWnyannPantsuKawaii: :GWumuMHX: :GWnyannKannaLick: :GWumuSmug:

Sorry guys. Where is the shiny list please
To snipe a pokemon, i have to tp on it, click on it, wait the cooldown stop in the capture, then when cooldown is down i have to capture it right?


Ii can't see the difference
I see
Size
And pixel
mine is xs hs
Anyone? Shiny checklist please
oh Rickiee
@solid plume did u say leeks?

:GWumuAngry: :GWuraOchakoEvil: :GWumuMHX: :GWlovTogaSmile:
Again and again
Lalalaland
It never stops 
:spam:
We have to deal with it
yep
GW
wtf is that eve emote
Pkmkb
lmao
patrick?
Gotta Wonder


I kid @gilded helm
Pkmkb
I have no idea
I've been guessing
But eitherway thankyou for not ignoring me and take time to answering eitherway!
Iโll give you a rep in #tatsumaki
Already did
Was thinking bout going to do candy h uh not for rep
trell ignores me all the time
idk u say
It was just the wind
It was just the wind
wow


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Oh wow, I can leave work. Brb when I reach the car lol
Lol
Hi guys.. best way to get an ex-raid pass?
follow #raid_leaders
Who else is waiting for next candy ๐ญ hunt?
new japan event about chansey? On Facebook lol
@solid plume what is the location?
@balmy marlin japan
Possible shiny my ass, god dammit. I can never get shinies!
gotcha
@solid plume all japan lol
events
So no porting around ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
nope not this time
New event? Started?
no
and an illegal shark fin trade?
its on the weekend
Mantyke
poor mantyke :c
@gilded helm that's me
Can not find again the event... On fejs... Lol
lol
Did you know you have a smiling face on your back
I need 150 chansey candy lol
@gilded helm Yes, very happy face
Um
mantyke is legit the cutest baby
@solid plume i will dm you
ok

hundo room is quite
there comes a max licki
quite quiet one would ay
hello, in 100iv room, why i cant see the coordinates in there ?
click on the community link
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oh okay, thank you brother
Max lickitung
finally max licki after getting three 33s lol
Damn that lick ๐ gone
@obtuse panther @solid plume @royal summit thank you and Iโll keep checking!!! When I finally get one, itโll be like winning the lottery,LOL!!!!!
lol that licki was 40 iv ๐ฎ
Time to get the evo licki
lol goodluck
Missed it ๐ข๐ข๐ข
Aw thats bad

I got it np
yup, missed it by a few seconds
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Any Ditto, for a mision ? Thanks before....
always see that cp are the same before catch
good thing i looked before spending a sinoh stone...
Any boosted sableye nest cords plz
Noooo that lickitung just cost me my cd
@open wing check #nest_report
Boosted brother @quaint pelican
Is shiny ryhorn in the game ?
I wouldn't worry bout boosted as much as I would look at the nests to see how much they give
@rustic portal nope
@rustic portal no
Shame
It's just me or the new update of PoGo from the playstore doesn't work?





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