Vintage Story - Community Game Server

[wary vapor]

Damn, found a ruin in the side of a cliff super close to spawn with a crucible, cooking pot, 2 bowls, forge

Wish i'd stumbled across this day one

[rotund dragon]

best find possible find (first day)

[wary vapor]

Wait... where's my temporal stability...

The gear just isn't there

[long comet]

Was it there before? It can be turned off in world creation

[wary vapor]

It was last night

Anyway i'm hopping off for now, at least till someone else is on

Stocked up tons of meat in the food store ready to be cooked, got some pelts curing for hunter backpacks, and did some prospecting

the prospecting is not looking good

We're in a small pocket of DENSE lead, which is inside a larger pocket of pretty abundant brown coal, and then... nothing, basically

Some traces here and there, nothing much. No sign of tin whatsoever, not a peep

[long comet]

Lead might still be good, it can have silver

[wary vapor]

Oh the lead is the best part of it

molybdochalkos forever

Oh also we're now the proud owners of one zinc ingot cause the ruin had it

And 16 iron pieces, just to torment us

[final ivy]

You sure did a lot of work bentham

My only issue is I wanna build and I can't until taco fixes the roofing issue

[hexed bane]

Maybe the server settings got messed up somehow

Are there any mods?

[south cypress]

speaking of mods do you need to have the mods order to join a modded server or does the server just need the mods and you won't have to download the needed mods like in minecraft

[heavy condor]

Depends on the mod some are client side only, others are both, and yet again others are Server side only

But in Minecraft you do need to download the mods if playing on a modded server, unless it's a Plug in on a Server (Functionally the same as a mod but implementation is different) those are Server side only

[south cypress]

so you need to have the mods (not the client side ones) downloaded for the server that has the mods order for you to join like in minecraft

[heavy condor]

yes

[lethal canopy]

Would it be ok if I joined the server?
If so, is there a particular class I should (or shouldn't) pick?

[wary vapor]

It's a server for anyone here while we wait for Aavak to heal, of course you can join!

I'm off for now but should be on later

[final ivy]

I am not on but i really want the roof issue to be fixed so I can build properly!

[wary vapor]

We have a little spot set up on the north bank of the spawn lake, there's a full set of baskets outside the dirt hut

[final ivy]

If someone can, please help taco fix the issue

[lethal canopy]

Nice, thank you

[wary vapor]

And TONS of fresh meat in the stone hut, please make good use of it, cooking implements are in the dirt hut

And we just entered the copper age, be sparing with copper tool usage and leave them all on racks when you log out

[lethal canopy]

will do

[wary vapor]

If you're looking for something to do to help out, we need infinity cattails for more skeps for the bees, more honey and wax is always useful

[south cypress]

how large the copper veins can be?

[wary vapor]

beneath surface copper bits, 6-10 wide disk, 1 thick

Malachite can be 8-20 wide

And deeper copper can also be 8-20 wide and 1-2 thick

[south cypress]

so there is deeper copper than the surface copper which are small

[wary vapor]

yep!

I almost never find deep copper, but on my solo game, the cave network on the other side of one of my translocators is PACKED with deep copper veins, like on top of each other

[wispy swift]

I have two to three more surface copper spots I didn’t get to, so we have a little bit of copper still in the area. As to the temporal gear missing, when the server was being reset to try and fix the roofing issue, the local temporal stability was turned off as Taco didn’t want to move shop and it draining while at base was getting frustrating.

[final ivy]

That was frustrating but normally I would just leave the area for little bit

[south cypress]

it's just me but i feel like having a option to have the ores be rarer to find but in larger veins so 4X harder to find but 4-5X size which gives a reason to build a mining route to it

[lethal canopy]

I like that there's already a basket full of stone path - someone missing the road project..? :P

[wispy swift]

I’ve also marked a few cave entrances, and there seems to be a large cavern network to the West of the lake that might be worth investigating.

[final ivy]

I miss building xD

[wary vapor]

Ah, fair

[lethal canopy]

Understandable

[wary vapor]

I've got a couple copper spots i've found and not mined, I always leave the surface bits there so others can find them

[wary vapor]

With the state of this terrain, roads are both: desperately needed, and a nightmare to do 😆

[wispy swift]

Nope, that was me. I needed space while I was working on the surface deposits and we didn’t have much storage space. The paths helped condense the materials. But also, you know, stocking up ahead of time. 😆

[wary vapor]

someone needs to circumnavigate the island (if it is an island) so we can wotk out where roads would eb good to send

[final ivy]

I hope we are still planning to go south when we are capable?

[wary vapor]

I think there's ocean to the north, literally just 250 tiles

[wary vapor]

Have you see an iron deposit? I set up lanterns and a road to mine in my solo game. 4 years in and i've not even used half of the iron from it

[south cypress]

are they really that big? then the copper veins feels tiny if you say that

[wary vapor]

Iron deposits are 32-72 wide

[wispy swift]

I don’t have my view distance very high, and I haven’t really travelled far, but it does not seem to be an island, at least, not a small one. Heading North is the closest to the “edge”, but it could just be a large lake as land starts curving around it to the NE and NW which hasn’t looked like it ends for at least a good while. The South leads into some field and dessert areas, while the West is more gravel dessert and forest. The East has a lot of area up on a plateau, and seems to stretch on for a decent ways.

I’d guess I can probably see around the 500-1000 block range depending on the direction, but we definitely have some way to gone before any edges except for the North.

[hexed bane]

Oceans have salt water, while lakes only fresh, you can check if it's an ocean that way

[south cypress]

and the salt water does not freeze in the winter

[final ivy]

In my singleplayer. I have not been able to find any seaweed

[wispy swift]

I forgot about that. I guess that will be easy enough to check later.

[hexed bane]

It also kills crops, so check before placing farms or watering

[south cypress]

i did assume that was a case because of common sense

has anyone found a salt water in the Aavaks server?

[wicked locust]

How would you know

[south cypress]

i don't thats why i was asking :/

[wicked locust]

Can you use it for anything

[south cypress]

for the canal as it does nor freeze in winter

[wicked locust]

Odd. Salt water will freeze in real life. Just at a lower temp

[final ivy]

May not be fully implemented

[wispy swift]

When you scoop up water, it should tell you if it’s saltwater in the inventory. If it’s just water, it’s fresh. I don’t believe anyone’s found saltwater on the main server though. It’s difficult to find an ocean in there.

[wicked locust]

Just checked it would totally freeze at origin

[south cypress]

shame

[wicked locust]

Internet says -1.8C in real life

Also you would need sooo many buckets

And people

I know you can make spawn zones

[wispy swift]

Whether a body of water freezes or not has a lot to do with how much water movement there is. Even fresh can remain unfrozen well below freezing temps if it’s a quick flowing river.

[wicked locust]

Also how much water in general there is

Completely unrelated but I just ate a cinnamon bun from a bakery vending machine...

It was very good

[wispy swift]

I do think there are some funny ice spawn/despawn mechanics going on in the game though. In my SP, The water in the lake by my base froze solid, but travelling on it a ways, I’d get a clear cut to unfrozen water despite it being consistently -20 or below. And conversely, what ice did form in those areas did not melt through the duration of the following summer despite it being consistently +30 and above. 😆

[spring cradle]

I think that’s just because time does not pass for certain things when you are out of range. You have to be in vicinity for «natural processes» to start resuming.

[lethal canopy]

server going down for a bit was good - just remembered I haven't eaten anything all day...

[spring cradle]

Hah, yeah, def go get. If I don't see you when it comes back on, I'll just wander a bit west.

[lethal canopy]

sounds good

[dawn moss]

alright good news and bad news. good news: a fresh install fixed the roof recipe issue

[wary vapor]

They really need to fix that

[dawn moss]

bad news, i dont know how to make the server open up the game world instead of generating a new save

[wary vapor]

I'll walk to a lake in july and it'll be frozen over because i haven;t loaded the chunk since winter

[dawn moss]

anyone know what file config i have to change to get it to cooperate

[wary vapor]

[dawn moss]

seems i just need to edit ther serverconfig.json file

now where is it

servers back BABY

[lethal canopy]

woo! Thank you :3

[dawn moss]

or at least its back until we realize something else is broken

[lethal canopy]

hehe

[wary vapor]

I bow to our new dark god

[long comet]

When did Taco undergo apotheosis?

[dawn moss]

when i ascended to heaven to get the crafting recipes for roof tiles

[spring cradle]

Awright.

[long comet]

Understandable

[wary vapor]

And lo did Taco descend from the heavens and spake unto the seraphs: "let there be thatch." And so, there was thatch, and it was good.

[dawn moss]

there was a lot more swearing in heaven about why they couldnt do it but thats the jist

[final ivy]

Yes!!!

[wary vapor]

So we've so far I believe found tin, iron, bauxite, olivine, and borax

We're about to speedrun the industrial revolution

[spring cradle]

Sulfur, bit of salpeter.

[wary vapor]

We can have steel in no time

[spring cradle]

How's our clay sitch?

[dawn moss]

servers back up

[wary vapor]

I've found plenty of patches and marked them so we should always be able to find some

[wispy swift]

I've been marking all of the clay and peat patches I come across as well, and there is plenty scattered around.

[wispy swift]

Had a cave-in into a tunnel system. Didn't quite get a shelter made before a drifter showed up, so I logged and I'll wait out the night.

[lethal canopy]

night over

[wary vapor]

I've come across tons of clay to the southeast, between the two tin deposits I got directed to

[wispy swift]

and they aren't small ones either. I'm still coming across a bunch and I'm fruther SE of that. The island really likes heading in that direction.

[hexed bane]

There won't be any because there are no oceans, you have to build a roof over the canal to keep it from freezing

[hexed bane]

It's not difficult, it's impossible because oceans were not enabled by Aavak lol

[south cypress]

i think if oceans can freeze then maybe a ice breaker add-on to the boat might be nice but it might need to be made from iron or steel or it can break like tools so you have to replace it

[hexed bane]

Don't think they freeze, at least for now

Also you can use flowing water instead of water sources to build less roof

It also doesn't freeze

[south cypress]

yet

[hexed bane]

By the time there's an update on that the server might be long gone

I haven't heard anything about changing water mechanics in 1.21

[south cypress]

i think the water mechanic change comes when they add waterweels

[hexed bane]

Which is not planned soon

[south cypress]

and yes i am aware that the current server will be gone by then

i wonder if they are gonna add a steam engine for rotation power too

[hexed bane]

There was a stream by the dev today, if anyone wants to watch the vod: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2468106107

[wispy swift]

This is what I have of the NE-E coastline so far. Furthers point east is ~3.5k blocks.

[wary vapor]

I name this land The Bronze Coast

I've mined all the tin I found there (LOTS) but the place is literally covered in copper

[spring cradle]

There is also lots of surface copper north/northwest, and a bit further west.

Six nodes so far.

[wary vapor]

A tragedy in two chat entries

[spring cradle]

96.51.45.74:42420 / password is Dapperling

[wary vapor]

Decided to node prospect directly under our main square. Oh boy

[wispy swift]

The coast of our inland sea. Only has two channel spots, both the the NE of town. The circled area is the little limestone dessert I found.

[spring cradle]

Northwesternly direction, where I located very high hematite.

[dawn moss]

as we come to the end of sunday im wondering if i should shut the server down until the next weekend or keep it up

put thumbs to vote, thumbs up to keep the server up thumbs down to pull it down

[wary vapor]

Server crashed?

[dawn moss]

its still running

not sure whats up

[wary vapor]

Oh, I got "server not responding" then booted

[dawn moss]

i got kicked too, restarting it just in case

[wary vapor]

Yeah I can't rejoin

[slow surge]

I can't rejoin either

[dawn moss]

think i fixed it, give it another minute to reboot

[slow surge]

I'm in

[spring cradle]

Are there any significant expenses / efforts involved in keeping this running regularly or is it more just avoiding people dropping out from stuff moving along too fast?

I am genuinely fine with either, mostly just curious on what it takes to have one continuously running.

[final ivy]

I think it would be better to close on the weekdays as no one will feel left behind and give us something to look forward to on the weekend

[south cypress]

the better firepit mod looks a good mod to have

[dawn moss]

Just the few cents of power. Mostly it's a question of progression

I'll leave it up till the end of the day and make a final call then

[lethal canopy]

I voted for keeping it up but wouldn't mind if it was just a weekend thing

[lethal canopy]

I started building a field/greenhouse just east of the original field. I would love some input on layout/design if anyone has any ideas.

[wary vapor]

The town's really coming together

[wicked locust]

more sea north

[south cypress]

i assume this weekends steam is also not happening in Aavak's side as he is still recovering?

[wispy swift]

From the announcement in Harbinger Hall, Aavak figured it would be unlikely this weekend as well, and I don’t believe anything has been said since to alter that.

[south cypress]

wanted to make sure as i wanted to go visit my mother for the weekend as i was not able to to as i wanted to play in the server with my own PC

[wary vapor]

Yeah sounds like recovery involves not sitting too much or for too long so could be weeks (or not, depends on Aavak's stubbornness)

However long it takes, we're pootling about on Taco's unofficial server while we wait for the glorious return

I'm calling our new town there Lost Lake, as we are all adrift, far from our Origin and hoping to one day return

[tough thunder]

I imagine it will also depend on if Aavak wants keep the same format as previous community nights or will go for a more relaxed style that's less straining while he's getting better.

[rotund dragon]

Stubbornness does not heal

[south cypress]

i am sure shelab will keep him in line so he can heal

[rotund dragon]

If the operation left an open wound I hope they keep it clean as well

[wary vapor]

If the operation left an open wound someone needs to have a word with the surgeon 😆

[rotund dragon]

nope sometimes they do that on purpouse

[spring cradle]

Weird lines on map, guess it has to do with worldgen?

[long comet]

Weird lines like that usually mark areas with and without snow due to them not having been loaded for long enough

Especially seeing how the continuity of hills is preserved

[wary vapor]

Yeah it's snow, you'll find those on the edge of the chunk load distance from places you hang around a lot in winter

[wispy star]

the dWeller

[lunar lion]

d'aww, you got a pet!

[spring cradle]

Ah, thanks for clarifying. I see that now.

Put your lantern back on the lantern tree in town.

[wicked locust]

@wary vapor what is this?

why glowing thing

[wary vapor]

Oh, you shift clicked the door and now it's drawing you plans for a beehive kiln 😆

[wicked locust]

ahhh

[wary vapor]

Ignore it, or there might be a way to click the door to remove it

[wicked locust]

i just wanted to make sure it wasnt broken

[wary vapor]

Maximum efficiency

You can smelt bismuth by burning basically anything

[wicked locust]

Nice

[rotund dragon]

Same for tin and lead

[lethal canopy]

there is a moose on the floating hill..

[spring cradle]

Dat moose.

[rotund dragon]

This seems like a perfect place to build a tower

[spring cradle]

Crashed. Server seems down?

[slow surge]

Looks like it

[wary vapor]

Yep

[lethal canopy]

I activated the 3rd translocator, btw

[wary vapor]

Nice!

Where's it go?

[lethal canopy]

took me to something like 1500, -5500

[wispy swift]

Hopefully it doesn't put you at the bottom of the world again. XD

[lethal canopy]

I'll have to check when the server's back

o.O

well, at 48

[wispy swift]

Well, I guess that's better than in the 20's.

[wary vapor]

Oh by the way, I threw some leather in the chest in the windmill for the bows

[lethal canopy]

server's back up

1557, 48, -5516 for the translocator

[wary vapor]

Again

[lethal canopy]

@dawn moss The server seems to have a few hiccups and is crashing every now and then. (Sorry for the @, just info)

[wispy swift]

I had time to check the online ping before mine crashed (host not responding got to 145s), and it was a wide range of ping times. From 58ms to 2689ms.

[wary vapor]

It's back up

Also I hit sandstone, I know someone was looking for that, Taco I think. starts around -1200, -300
There's sand, gravel and stone

[tropic yacht]

I have a question for anyone who can answer, what is the version of VS that the smp is on (Dapper) recently had an update to 1.20.11 so don't want to end up with an inability to join when Aavak is well enough

[wary vapor]

currently 1.20.10 but aavak might update it when he comes back anyway

[tropic yacht]

ah nice

I'm tryin to put in another version as well for a server my daughter is wanting to join

[wispy swift]

Yeah, it was Taco who asked about it yesterday. I brought a load of sandstone sand yesterday, so I think the only other thing they might need is the stone. I suspect the need was for sand though as I saw yellow daub being used.

[tropic yacht]

ty Bentham 🙂

[wary vapor]

Ahhhh, right

[lethal canopy]

Never seen ruins like this before

[wary vapor]

Ah, that's the biggest ruin I think

Do some parkour on it

[spring cradle]

Chromehaul.

[lethal canopy]

This was a nice, even shore. Until I jumped off the raft...

[spring cradle]

Area where there was (and still is) chromite.

[dawn moss]

is the server still shitting itself?

[wary vapor]

It's been okay since those two crashes

[wispy swift]

I haven't had any issues since either.

[dawn moss]

im restarting the server and the server machine

eta back up 5-10

[wispy swift]

Also, because the chat will be lost, I just got a decent ilmenite reading of 1.1%. I'll see if I can narrow it down, but it's in a nice mountainous area.

[spring cradle]

Better than mine at 0.99, great if you can hit something more.

[wispy swift]

Yeah, and it's a distance out NE. It's nearly the opposite shore of the sea.

[spring cradle]

Do Ilmenite deposits tend to be big?

[wary vapor]

Decent size

Apparently anything from 0 to 32 tiles across

And supposedly any height but i've only ever found them just above bedrock

[dawn moss]

should be back up

[wispy swift]

Current map of ilmenite readings up this way. Lowest was my initial reading of high, 1.1%, so this should give a good idea of where the ilmenite is tracking through the area.

[spring cradle]

Yeah, good find.

[wary vapor]

Is that through a translocator?

[wispy swift]

Nope. you can boat across the Eastern sea pretty easily. Would be nice if a translocator was nearby.

When I realized I was on the opposite corner, it truly is on the opposite side. I doubt there are any major islands through the middle though.

[spring cradle]

Ah, the Bermuda Triangle.

[heavy condor]

Might be more of the Devil's triangle, (Pacific equivalent of the Bermuda Triangle)

[wispy swift]

Well, I didn't realize I needed a steel pick for ilmenite as I hadn't hunted it before, so I got most of the bermuda/devil's triangle cleared up. At the very least, on the surface of the water nothing weird is going on. 😆

On to some notes. I was able to make another round trip with the correct pickaxe this time, so there are three stacks and change of ilmenite in the quartz & misc. chest at the forge. I got the molybdenous plates made up from the ingots at the helve hammer (at least that's what I was guessing they were over there for, my apologies if not), and the blister steel worked to ingots. I noticed all the beehives were harvestable and large populations, so I went ahead and did a round of skeps and swapped them out. I didn't do anything with the honeycomb yet, and it is in the trunk just opposite the apiary.

[wicked locust]

The north sea i huge too agrajag and I rafted north last night

My boat will be finished tonight with the flax harvest

Assuming you only need the 21 linen and not more

Ended with 17 reserved last night with the panicked gathering.

Once its done it will be avaliable for others to use. Just bring it back in one peice. And tell me if you are taking it out when I'm on. If I'm not just use it.

[rotund dragon]

is that batman?

[wispy swift]

I was hoping he might show up to fend off the drifters while I mined, but alas, I don’t think I got the signal through. 🥲

[wary vapor]

Server down?

[long comet]

seems like it

[dawn moss]

I'm at work for another 8 hours so if it's down I won't be able to restarted until then

[wary vapor]

Normally it recovers after a minute but seems to be staying down this time

Ay, it's back up!

[lyric dew]

I am back from vacation and caught up on stuff at work so I might have time to pop in the in between server you guys have going for a bit tonight

[spring cradle]

augh

[wispy swift]

Well, I was just finishing dropping off the odds and ends, so this isn't a problem, but I'll be taking a break to eat. I put 10 stacks of limestone in the quern Bentham, along with the Sulphur.

[spring cradle]

I only froze for a bit, then experienced all the lost time getting wailed on by two deep drifters.

[wary vapor]

Awesome!

Yeah I got yeeted but was able to reconnect

came back inside the rock i;d just been mining, fun

[spring cradle]

Done mining out that iron vein I stumbled across, back to hunting bears.

[wary vapor]

Who sealed the honey barrel with 49 honey in it...

[wary vapor]

Server seems a little perturbed right now

Upgrading to very perturbed

[dawn moss]

seems my internet is struggling

[wary vapor]

I suspected as much

[dawn moss]

my ISP is probably getting upset with the internet usage at this point

[slow surge]

At least I can hatch some pokemon eggs, while waiting to come back

[wispy swift]

Looks like the server is back.

[slow surge]

Someone posted a picture a while back, of ores and how they mix. Can someone repost it for me, so ai xan save it

[long comet]

#1353169187173961778 message

[slow surge]

Ta

[slow surge]

Is there a reason that doors are put on the inside of the doorway block?

[tough thunder]

Looks nicer?

[long comet]

It matters a little bit in cellars I think

[slow surge]

I just found out eating a balanced diet increases your max hp

[wicked locust]

Indeed it does

Did you not see the bars by your equipment?

[quick solar]

update today and it's focused on bug fixes and performance improvements for servers!

[wicked locust]

Hopefully we have less spook now

Yesterday I sealed a barrel with 50 liters in it then we crashed and came back to find it had 49 liters in it and was still sealed.

A few days ago I was burning some kilns for a few hours and it crashed and then one of them unlit itself.

Weird things be happening

Also @lethal canopy had stuff in her hotbar that was in different spots than they appeared on her screen.

So she went to set somthing down or put it in an invantory and when she went back to check it was a different item

[wispy swift]

Ah, so that's what happened with the honey. Bentham was hoping to stock up on jams before starting mead production and we were confused when we saw the barrel was sealed.

[wicked locust]

? I thought that was for mead?

Didn't know that it was used in jam

I checked and we had another barrel with like 20-25 liters in it

[wispy swift]

That was just the honey storage barrel. We get a decent chunk off a round of skeps, so storing in buckets isn't ideal. Yup, honey can be used for mead, jam, and porridge if I recall correctly.

[wicked locust]

Well sorry about that

[wispy swift]

No worries! It's not a huge issue as we are producing more honey as we go and I don't think anybody had actually stated intended use for the honey. The bigger thing is we decided to move the pantry as it was getting cramped with the crops coming in, but those barrels are stuck in the old one for a while yet. 😆

[wicked locust]

Ok well to prevent any future confusion please put any liquids that are intended for alcohol production in the barrels on the second floor of the windmill.

I wont touch any others unless directed to

We can also mark any that are to be distilled.

[wispy swift]

That works for me! Not that I've been making any juice though XD

[wary vapor]

I mean juice is easy come easy go, honey takes longer to build up and at the time that barrel was basically all our honey. We've gained more since though

[dawn moss]

i wont update the server today since i work in a few hours, but ill do it tomorrow since ill have proper time to do a backup and get everything done properly

[wary vapor]

Apparently hail is a thing

A very very loud thing

[wispy swift]

Ah, I forgot to send this yesterday, but regarding the cave system under Lost Lake, the cave entrances I had marked prior to the town starting up here were at the pit kilns and by the tannery.

[wary vapor]

The entrance beneath the pit kilns is one of the entrances to the u-bend, the red cross looks to be the other, but that one next to the tannery is news to me, that one might have been buried unexplored

I'll do some poking around

[wispy swift]

The red cross was one of the copper surface deposits I mined, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if if you found cave shenanigans underneath it.

[wary vapor]

Yeah the un-bend is a cave that dived down from out front of the longhouse to where the well and pit kilns are

It actually still has ores in it 😆

[wispy swift]

I really should take a look down there sometime. I tend to stay in town whenever it's medium or higher activity though so I get spooked every time and just stay on the ladder. 😆

[wary vapor]

haha

Well we're getting to the point of having top tier armours to spare so it'll be easier to hurl oneself down all the pits we've been living on top of all this time

[wispy swift]

It'll be a new experience for me not being super cautious about spelunking. I've barely touched the caves in my solo game for the same reason. 😅

[slow surge]

Aye. I saw the bars, wasn't sure what they did though lol

[wary vapor]

Yeah once you have steel chain you can just run through caves like it's nothing

It only gets rough when you get below like 30 height

Then you have to watch yourself (or leave and come back in steel plate)

Steel plate is actually so tough that locusts can;t hurt you

Their damage is entirely negated, you can just wade in and break the nests

[blissful cipher]

Just a wee update regarding the server; i've been sat up at my computer for the last 3 or 4 hours as a test, and I'm already starting to feel rough from it. Not sure where I'll be next week, but there's really no way I could manage a community day tomorrow. Might well try to get a little work done, and it's quite likely I'll feel out some short streams here and there, but going to play it by ear for now.

So to avoid any uncertainty, that's a concrete no for tomorrow, and a very much 50 ~ 50 maybe for next week.

[wary vapor]

Take all the time you need

In the meantime we're conquering Lost Lake
Maybe you can have a tour when you're back!

[rotund dragon]

It's important not to push too much.

Hope it gets better soon

[slow surge]

You're health is more important than entertaining us silly goobers

[steel crater]

@wary vapor I salute you and your commitment to labeling

[wary vapor]

😆

You can tell when a build is a Bentham build cause it's 90% signposts

[wispy swift]

It is wonderful, and muchly appreciated!

[spring cradle]

Agreed.

[wary vapor]

What happened to the seashells?

Don't tell me someone ground them up for lime

[wispy swift]

Even when I brought back a crate of limestones yesterday? 🥲

[wary vapor]

I've been looking all over, hopefully someone just stashed them, or i'm blind

[wispy swift]

Well, I haven't been collecting the ones I come across, so now that I have beautiful inventory space, I'll grab the ones I find. 😄

[wary vapor]

Yeah i'd been letting them lie if they were near home but grabbing any I found on long expeditions and adding them to the tables in the longhouse but they've gone

[wary vapor]

Ah thank god, Sblibbo found them on the back porch of the longhouse, basically the only place I didn't look 😆

[vocal holly]

Ah that place, the one you would never leave something but stuff alwes finds its way there somehow. 😂

[wary vapor]

Lost Lake is now in possession of a glorious set of full steel plate!

Also i've souped up the windmill and it's now capable of some serious nonsense

And that's bedtime for me

[vocal holly]

The lost lake should be called steal lake from now on...

[wispy swift]

My goodness Scribbly was completely correct about the meteroic chain changing their playstyle!

In other news, the main canal tunnel has now been mined. I have one area of zinc on the floor I have to decide how I want to approach, but other than that, I can move on to the next step. I also discovered a deep cave through a cave in near the further entrance that may be worth exploring at some point. It was too deep for the ladders I had on me to get out the way I came in, so there is now a convenient entrance to it through the seabed a little offshore.

[rotund dragon]

how did it change your playstyle an compared to what?

[wary vapor]

It makes you an absolute tank that can just hurl yourself down any cave you find and completely explore it (unless it gets REALLY deep)

You can also just melee bears

[rotund dragon]

convenient

[wispy swift]

And in my specific case, allowed me to continue mining my tunnel at higher than low rift activity which is normally a death sentence without the armour. I would have likely died about five times over with the swarms I got. 😆

[wary vapor]

I seem to remember that on day one Taco sprinted south and found a treasure hunter trader, anybody know where that is? I wish to engage in commerce (our money is woefully low and we have bronze to burn)

[wispy swift]

Unfortunately, I hadn’t marked that one down on my map at the time either. South sounds about right, and it was relatively close. I want to say something in the range of 300-500ish block? Not more than 1000 at the very least.

[wary vapor]

That puts it closer thn the one I found out west, that was about 950 aay

[wispy swift]

Also, I forgot to mention this in my summery last night Bentham, I did a run for glacier ice yesterday and was going to put it in the uncommon stones trunk but there wasn’t enough space. I put it in a crate after the stones for the time being, but it can be moved if a different spot would be better.

[wary vapor]

Glacier ice?!

I didn;t even know that was a thing

[wispy swift]

The stuff on top of mountains, yes! 😆

[long comet]

It's great it acts as glass too

so you can have a greenhouse very early on in very cold climates

[wary vapor]

Ohhhh neat

[wispy swift]

I’ve come to prefer having a stack on hand instead of packed/rammed earth because it’s really quick to punch through, is considered stable, counts as insulating, and more importantly for me, I can see when the drifter’s wander off in an emergency shelter. 😂

[wary vapor]

Up a mountain trying to spot the treasure hunter and I see sblibbo's megaproject in the distance, look both ominous and cool

[wispy swift]

Beeeeg hole! 😆

[spring cradle]

There is one on top of the mesa plateus to the NW where I discovered chromite.

[wary vapor]

How far away?

I have one 1000 tiles out but i'm trying to find the south one cause it's supposedly closer

But i've been runing around the south for a day and night and found nothing

[spring cradle]

Uuuh, can’t remember exactly. Think it’s at least that or more.

Thought you might be looking for treasure hunters in general since each will have separate cog stocks.

I am on phone can check later.

[wary vapor]

Yeah, the more we have the quicker we can raise funds

[spring cradle]

Remember survival goods will usually accept 4-5 stacks of bread for a cog each, often multiple types, so baking one’s way into wealth is also legit.

[wary vapor]

True

Mysterious line cut through the wilderness

[vocal holly]

i see road crew might have been spotted 😄

[dawn moss]

alright server * Should * be on 1.20.11 now

[wary vapor]

Outdoor locust nest

[tropic yacht]

sounds like you guys are having a good time that particular tunnel looks somewhat intimidating 🙂

[wary vapor]

Oh, I know that one

[spring cradle]

Aight.

[dawn moss]

found another surface nest

[wary vapor]

haha nice

[spring cradle]

Funny. Maybe we should turn them into little Rust wildlife preserves.

[wary vapor]

Next time there's any hunter online, requesting several recurve bows for us to trade with treasure hunters. We have a bunch of recurve bowstaves but seems none have been crafted

[wary vapor]

Something is going wonky with my connection to the server

[dawn moss]

we see your chats just fine

[spring cradle]

Yeah.

Weird.

That is unfortunate.

[spring cradle]

Augh, disconnect.

[spring cradle]

Commemorative screenshot:

[wary vapor]

Yes that is a solid 3x3x3 cube of tier 3 refractory bricks

With more in the beehive kiln

[spring cradle]

Plus a full beehive kiln.

[wary vapor]

(the beehive kiln is not full of those, half of it is bricks cause i'm gonna make different coloured bricks)

[spring cradle]

Granted, you could probably also have made cube #2.

[wary vapor]

Quite possibly

[wicked locust]

good god you all have been busy since i was last on

[spring cradle]

I have gone on adventures. As in multiple.

[wary vapor]

It's saturday! Had a few more hands on deck

[spring cradle]

Couldn't help it, someone lent me steel plate.

[wicked locust]

i have been taking a break as between work and playing every night my fingers are starting to have issues

[spring cradle]

Probably wise.

[wary vapor]

Same, apparently my left hand does not enjoy my use of the space bar

[wicked locust]

i may stop by to just take a look for a bit but not going to be actually doing much

[wary vapor]

I've been going on less expeditions so I don't have to jump 😆

[wary vapor]

If you do pop on, my one request is to craft a bunch of recurve bows that I can sell to treasure hunters

[wicked locust]

have either of you made use of the boat

?

sure

[spring cradle]

Not yet. My current adventure land is still untapped.

[spring cradle]

The Ilmenite seas.

[wary vapor]

Please, no more ilmenite, I beg you 😂

[spring cradle]

Coal then.

[wary vapor]

Now THAT we need

[wispy swift]

Can you imagine the ilmenite overload if we managed to mine out the area I found as well. 😂

[spring cradle]

Oh yeah.

My map. I haven't actually explored that far, really.

Orange mushrooms are resin trees.

[wary vapor]

Smart way of doing it, i'm gonan steal that

[heavy condor]

I tend to use the Orange pine tree symbol

[spring cradle]

Makes sense. Not sure why I started using mushrooms.

[wary vapor]

Have we ever found a luxuries trader?

[wispy swift]

I have reached the point where I can now start working on filling the canal! That'll be a tomorrow project though.

I also took a quick dive into the cave the canal happened upon and found Mr. Curvy Bone Joe. I didn't grab much as I'm not experienced with cave diving yet, so I'd be happy to guide or give directions for someone else to check out as well.

[long comet]

In my experience grave robbing in VS is extremely profitable, I found an entire set of forlorn hope armour in a mausoleum once, inside of the caskets

[slow surge]

Do we have a tailor?

[tough thunder]

I'm one. Gonna be back online in around 10ish mins.

[austere furnace]

Nice to see all the fun everyone is having but I hope you dont all burnout on VS playing so much more frequently before Aavak is recovered >_<

[wary vapor]

I was playing this much VS already, just in my solo world 😆

[final ivy]

That is why I suggested for everyone to play on weekends, not just so you don't get burnt out, but people who cannot play in the weekdays don't feel they can't keep up

[spring cradle]

We have kind of hit steel age in a relatively brief period through luck and effort.

Still plenty to do, and fun to make on your own, but for those chasing the high of finding/reaching metal and making gear upgrades and getting good stuff the hard way, I can see the current unofficial server no longer being as exciting. Of course, nothing says you can’t head off to create a secondary town/outposts, and there’s plenty left to just explore on the regular and projects to pursue which having steel tools and sturdy packs will help immensely with.

[wary vapor]

So the good news is the steel furnaces are now synced
The bad news is it's because somebody left one of the doors open and wasted 32 coal 😆

[wary vapor]

A beautiful sight every time I near home

[wispy swift]

For myself, I’ve picked something very different to do on the unofficial server, a large excavation project, which I am very unlikely to do on the main server with running the post office. The same applies with what I’m thinking of doing after.

[slow surge]

My game keeps crashing when I join the server

[wispy star]

does it work in a singleplayer world?

[wary vapor]

Yeah I see it. The server is okay, i've had like 6 crashes in a row before when trying to connect, I think it';s just a case of keeping trying unfortunately

[slow surge]

Single player seems to work

[wispy star]

humm

no idea

[slow surge]

Works on a public server too

Seems to work now

[wary vapor]

Look upon our works, Origin Cave, and despair

64 iron ingots simultaneously being cooked into steel in tier 3 refractory furnaces

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-laught-rire-emperor-gif-20151979

[quick solar]

I just noticed that the moon orbits in retrograde
I really didn't expect that

It's moving from W to E

At some point I will make an observatory and take proper notes on the celestial movements of this world

[wary vapor]

Ooh, neat

Wonder if there's lore there

[dawn moss]

An observatory on the hill east of town near the trader would be cool

Cause I think that's the only hill near town that isn't in the bulldozer path

[wary vapor]

Ooh, that sounds fun

Also some kind of path up to that trader (and the observatory) would be great

[wary vapor]

So.
The translocator beneath the town now has a bell on our side and 2 bells on the other side.
I know this because I am trapped on the other side

[wary vapor]

God this game grants you some majestic sights

[long comet]

It doesn't last all I can think of when looking at this is "The top of this mountain would make a great blue cheese cellar"

[wary vapor]

😆

[wary vapor]

Me on my weekly trip to the western treasure hunter when I come across Hoshi's logging area:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzugQBkUrZk

[wary vapor]

Oh I've really outdone myself this time

[tough thunder]

What the hell Bentam. This new quern setup is insane.

[vocal holly]

does the quern go brrrrrr

[long comet]

We have a new quern setup?

[long comet]

It did go brr before

[vocal holly]

does it go whhhhrrrr like my coffee grinder now?

[long comet]

I haven't seen the updated version so it might

[tough thunder]

It is very cool. BUT, it is a bit ugly and in the way.

[long comet]

So what about it changed?

[vocal holly]

that one big BUT you put there 😄

[tough thunder]

I'm just salty cause my quenching pool isn't as nice now.

[wicked locust]

It did look pretty

[tough thunder]

I'm doing big upgrades to the pretty in here now. Lots of chisel.

[wicked locust]

Haven't seen the new quern

[tough thunder]

I've made the pulverizer pretty. Now to approach the quern... maybe.

[long comet]

A good functional and decorative improvement would be adding guards on the diagonals of the quern

[tough thunder]

You haven't seen the new one. Have you?

[long comet]

Not yet

[tough thunder]

Its impressive

[wary vapor]

😆

[tough thunder]

Forgive me if I butcher it bentham. But i'll try to stick to what you've made when I move it.

[long comet]

Bentham you shifted the entire gearbox one gear

[wary vapor]

I did yes

[long comet]

I missed the clipping sound of a pulverizer at second high gear

[wary vapor]

What?

[tough thunder]

My key takeaway from this is that Bentham is a madman and we must be wary of where we unleash him.

[wary vapor]

I shifted the entire gearbox up a gear

[wary vapor]

@wispy swift Was passing through your canal and happened to have exactly 18 candles, so made your lanterns, ready to be placed

[wispy swift]

Ah! Thanks for doing that Bentham! The canal shall be lit!

[wary vapor]

The canal calls for trade!

Actually, I probably can use your canal for trade

There's two commodities merchants out that way, close-ish to that sea

They buy cracked vessels for more than treasure traders sell them

[south cypress]

i assumed this weekend is off to on the Aavak stream as i assume he still need to recover also i like to visit my mother and not miss much from that stream

[wary vapor]

This past weekend no stream, he said 50/50 on next week

[tough thunder]

I also wouldn't expect normal Aavak length streams if it does happen.

[south cypress]

well i do assume Aavak still needs to recover and can't yet stream much not the lenght the VS streams go

[wary vapor]

My aggressive commerce with the 3 local treasure hunters, artisan, and 2 building traders has raised our funds to 400 (and two full blackguard sets)

Plus secret other riches that will be revealed in due time

[spring cradle]

How is Taco's village project going?

[wary vapor]

We have 4.5 trunks full of ruins props and aged wood items

[spring cradle]

Crash.

[wary vapor]

yarp

[spring cradle]

Just when I was yearnin' and minin'.

[slow surge]

It wasn't just me then lol

[wispy swift]

Bentham, do you recall what area Hoshi was exploring when they found the glow worm cave? If it was to the South of town, I may be in that cave network and it has a broken TL down there I can repair. Might be tricky to get a stairwell up to the surface with where it is though.

Bonus, there are two brown coal veins in there that I've seen so far.

[wary vapor]

no idea if it's the same cave, but Wyn found that TL yesterday, i've been meaning to check it out

Is it fired up yet?

[spring cradle]

Coal is just a matter of digging down where we're at, it seems.

[wispy swift]

Nope, still broken. I'll work on fixing up to see where it goes.

[wary vapor]

We have a whole-ass crate and change of temporal gears these days

[spring cradle]

How many of those to a crate?

[wispy swift]

Oh very much so Scribbly! If it wasn't lead poisoning, it would be coal dust exposure to kill us all if it were simulated in game. 😂

[slow surge]

I'm staying away from translocators... after what happened last time -_-

[wary vapor]

20, cause crates store 20 stacks and temporal gears don't stack

[spring cradle]

Aha.

[wary vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[wispy swift]

That was admittedly very out of the ordinary Wyn, but I can't blame you at all either. Bells are scary stuff.

[wary vapor]

the bells

[spring cradle]

Bells either make me abandon all pursuit of greed, or dive headlong into death or glory pending on whether I think I can reach it in time to prevent the worst of the spawns.

[slow surge]

Is server down?

[spring cradle]

Yeah, looks like it.

[wary vapor]

Yup

[wispy swift]

Oh! You would have missed the chaos yesterday Scribbly. Wyn went through the Well TL and found two bells, and then when Bentham went in for a rescue, discovered there were another two bells on the other side of the TL as well.

[wary vapor]

Wasn't Taco online at the time? no posting from him in here suggests he lost internet

Yeah I ended up trapped on the other side of the TL having tried to recover Wyn;s stuff, with 1hp, planning to start a new life in the bauxite sands

[spring cradle]

No posting at all, so, uh, that is not definite.

So wild bell west.

[wary vapor]

I don;t even get how bells ended up on both sides, and SO MANY

[spring cradle]

Rare spawn odds? I've certainly seen two or three at a time before.

[wary vapor]

the home end of the TL is low-ish underground, but the other side is SUPER shallow

So it makes it look like 4 bells all spawned at once in the TL on our end and then two fell through the portal

Also Wyn gave me no warning lmao

he was just like "need help getting my stuff", led me to the TL and looked at it, so I hopped through

[spring cradle]

Game thinking "Wasn't there supposed to be 2 bells here?" (adds 2 more)

[wary vapor]

BELLS

BELLS AND DEATH

[spring cradle]

How'd it resolve in the end, then?

[wary vapor]

A team charged through of I think Wyn, Sblibbo and Hoshi?

pushed them back, deployed a wall, fought the hordes till they reached the final bell

Then I returned from the surface

[spring cradle]

Haha, sounds like very good emergent gameplay.

"We need to rescue private Bentham."

[wispy swift]

I got two of the bells eventually, and Hoshi got the others I believe. Bentham gave us the armour needed warning so we donned some before heading down. Tokk a fair while on the other end as the one bell I was chasing kept falling further down the hole and tunnel.

[wary vapor]

Also I found a third treasure hunter while I ran from the bell's spawns

[dawn moss]

internets back

[spring cradle]

See, I told you Benth.

[wary vapor]

Ay, my powers of deduction were correct

[spring cradle]

Ah right, you didn't need telling, I misunderstood.

[wispy swift]

Thanks for letting us know Taco!

[opaque cove]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-wahh-wild-go-gif-13490041

[spring cradle]

Welp.

[dawn moss]

server had just a hickup i think

[spring cradle]

Ah, back in.

[wispy swift]

At least I don't think we were being swarmed in those last 20 seconds. 😅

[spring cradle]

Yuh, small blessings.

Gahdang.

[dawn moss]

im gonna restart the host machine

[wary vapor]

The server was totally fine till you logged on, then it started falling to pieces 😆

If you're restearting, can you make sure item despawn is set at 30 mins if it's still at 10?

Also nobody is at the archives. I'm doing trader runs, Sblibbo and Scribbley are caving somewhere

[wispy swift]

Caving at the Tin Pond, through the South bridge TL!

[dawn moss]

can do, do you know how to off the top of the dome piece?

its strange that it fell apart when i joined

[wary vapor]

Do what with the what now?

[dawn moss]

i did it over localip instead of global so it shouldnt have been causing issues with my isp

set the timer bentham

[spring cradle]

May be unrelated.

[wary vapor]

Oh, no idea, I just remember you said once it needed a server reset to do

[dawn moss]

ive found the command

k command applied and server restarting eta 4 min

[spring cradle]

Looks like it's up again.

[steel crater]

take the road east of town, the tunnel eventually intersects with a cavern network, somewhere in that network are the hanging glow crystals

[steel crater]

this was a good example of why the armor sets are right outside the smithy, easy to don. I charged in there with steel plate and the monsters fell like wheat to a scythe

[wary vapor]

So i've encountered a unique landmass. It's basically hollow, the whole thing is on natural pillars of stone rising through the ocean from bedrock

Almost every pond is, even if it's literally a 5x10 pond, ~100M deep

You jump in and just fall through the ocean past submerged cliff faces and impossibly massive caverns

It's around 2000,2000

Just go there, find a pond, jump in

And pay attention to your breath

It looks so innocuous

What you see when you jump in

And what happens if you stand on the unstable edge for too long

[spring cradle]

Pff.

I crashed.

[opaque cove]

Found blue clay

[wary vapor]

Awesome!

[spring cradle]

The Arena of Death. Won by blood, tears, sweat and all of Lost Lake's healing supplies.

[wispy swift]

And this is where Tin Pond and the Arena of Death is in relation to the Eastern Sea. Those are the ilmenite readings I got a few days back.

[wary vapor]

When you're cooking so much steel that you actually manage to break tier 3 brick

[wary vapor]

The armour collection of the Crossroads Forge grows...

I already have the pieces for a third set of blackguard armour, just have to make the plates and chains.

But I just did a massive stint at the helve hammer processing 228 iron blooms and 64 blister steel and hammering out 10 molybdochalkos plates and 20 iron ones. I may have RSI now.

[dawn moss]

bridge rebuild

[wary vapor]

Glorious

I may borrow the boat tomorrow for long distance trading runs

[wispy swift]

It's absolutely at your disposal Bentham! I'm thinking of setting up a chest at the dockyard with a selection of the things you can stick on the boat, so you can customize it to the trip being taken.

[vocal holly]

that is one fine bridge 🙂

[wispy star]

love those arches

[wicked locust]

Did we get another boat?

[wicked locust]

Pretty

Yall want to go on a sailing trip at some point?

[wispy swift]

Got another two boats actually! Wyn made one up as well.

[wicked locust]

Did you guys connect the lake to the oceans

[wary vapor]

Yep, sblibbo built a massive canal to the east ocean!

[wispy swift]

Oh, I don't think I ever posted the canal stats ( and I only have this from trying to be organized about it). The canal ended up being 318 block long dug straight through the massive hill to the SE of town. It is 6 blocks wide by 12 tall (13 for just under half the distance) filled 2-3 blocks deep with water, with a 4 tall, 3 wide adjacent stone pat along the length, and safehouse/storage houses on either end. It is lit with 20 lanterns, 14 along the length, 2 at either entrance, and one each for the safehouses. As much as was possible was relieved, ending up with close to a crate of claystone, about 400 bauxite, and 2.5 crates worth of granite rock. The stones clocked in at 9 full crates and change of claystone, 2 crates and some of bauxite, and nearly 27 crates of granite. I hit 5 patches of zinc, 1 of borax, a scattering of silver in the requisite quartz, and a milky quartz geode during the excavations.

[spring cradle]

Very nice.

[dawn moss]

20 lanterns

No wonder i couldn't find any

[wary vapor]

The canal not only means we can have boats right on the shores of Lost Lake that can reach the ocean, but opens up the perfect trade route for me to carry cracked vessels (purchased for cheap from the local 3 treasure hunters) to the two commodities traders far to the southeast

Doing it on foot was a serious ordeal, but having a boat full of storage will make it into a longer but much more fruitful voyage

[spring cradle]

Should look for other opportunities to profit as well, i.e. mining expeditions.

[wary vapor]

We can use boats now to get very close to the hollow continent, where mining prospects are prety good

Just pick a pond, dive, and scan the cliff faces as you descend

That's how I found cinnabar, pink marble, and graphite, all in a single dive

[spring cradle]

Very nice.

As in, actually very rare.

[wispy star]

wow you guys picked some great names

hollow continent is so cool

[wary vapor]

It's cause it's a continent that's literally hollow 😆

So far i'm the only person to visit it, I need someone else to check it out and witness the madness

[wispy swift]

I’d be willing to make a trip down there at some point. The scope would be different and inverted, but the Eastern Sea has something similar going on. Any of the small islands just off shore are more like needles just poking out of the water surface.

[spring cradle]

Scuba equipment tech when.

[wicked locust]

How much ale am I allowed to make?

I currently have one full barrel and another on the go. Unfortunately it takes 5 barrels to make one. Not sure why they made you lose so much in the production process.

I did the calculations with some numbers from the internet. Says 300 grams of flower for a 1 lb loaf of bread. So, assuming the loaves in game are 1 lb, 1 unit of flower is 300 grams.

To get 1 liter of ale im seeing 200-300 grams of malt.

So the ratio would be correct of 50 units to 50 liters.

Roughly

[slow surge]

We have plenty of flax and spelt grain. I say get us all drunk 🥴

[wicked locust]

I checked with some people who make various alcohols in real life too. You might lose a few percent of volume but nothing like 80%

[wicked locust]

Will do

[long comet]

I don't know if the bread in VS isn't much smaller, more like a bread roll so a fifth or sixth of that

[wicked locust]

Maybe. But you also lose water

50 liters of water and 50 units of grain to 10 liters of ale

[long comet]

The reason is probably balance as grain is much easier to get large amounts of than fruit or honey

Ale is more of a way to use the piles of grain you can easily end up with

Because grain shelf life is immense

Unlike fruit which spoils much quicker

[wicked locust]

Than what is with the water

[long comet]

A bucket of water is enough to get infinite water so it's not realistic to begin with

[wicked locust]

Let me grab some numbers and do some math

So real quick a loaf of bread already has a much higher satiety worth than a unit of berries. How many berries do you get per bush harvest?

[long comet]

An average of 3 I think? Don't quite remember

[wicked locust]

And the growth/fruit time is like 16 days or something

[long comet]

I think it is shorter more like 10 or 12

[wicked locust]

But they are low maintenance i guess

From wiki "Berry bushes go through three stages of growth: empty, flowering, and ripe. It takes between 8 to 9.6 days to go from empty to flowering, and 8 to 9.6 days to go from flowering to ripe."

[long comet]

Actually it seems berries actually have higher satiety 80 vs 60 of grain

[wicked locust]

Raw grain

Cooked its like 300

[long comet]

How much is the bonus from cooking in a pot though?

[wicked locust]

In bread that is

Lemme check

[long comet]

The easiest comparison would be porridge with and without fruit I guess

[wicked locust]

Can't find

Found this though

[wary vapor]

Cooking pot always gives +50% satiety to all it's ingredients

plus the timer for no satiety drain

[wicked locust]

Wait I found this

[long comet]

Weird so grains get 4x and fruit only get 1,5x

[wicked locust]

Got to work back in a few hours. I just think the balance is borked

[wispy swift]

That sounds about right though. Grain is not exactly filling prior to being cooked, whereas fruit doesn’t change much in that quality cooked or not.

[wicked locust]

Nerfing alcohol is a weird one.

[wary vapor]

Anyway we're drowning in flax grain, you can do whatever you want with that

Our food stocks are so bountiful that we're implementing a second full size cellar just to store it all

[wispy swift]

Also, I suspect the grain “portion” is balanced through the whole unit, and not representative of a theoretical volume/weight. Given the bread takes one litre of water per dough, that should actually produce between 2.7-3.3 one pound loaves given a 65-80% hydration. Otherwise, the loaves would weigh between 1.250-1.538kg given the same hydration.

I didn’t put in a ladder or stairs to the second floor cellar yet as I wasn’t sure which aisle we should stick it in. The grain doesn’t have a sign at the end and may be the easiest to pop a ladder on.

[wary vapor]

Could do external access

little path off the bridge, door in the centre of the back wall

[wispy swift]

Yeah, that could work as well. Might be faster for unloading just going through a door and not a door/ladder combo.

[wary vapor]

Yeah, ladders are annoying

And then either the upper floor can be overflow storage, like for grain, jam, honey, some veg even

Or we split the floors per nutrition type

like one floor is grain and veg, one floor is meat, fruit and dairy

[wispy swift]

I like the idea of the town level floor having a bit of everything just because it’s easy to run in and out of while grabbing ingredients for cooking, but the floor per nutrition type makes a lot of sense too. We do have enough materials to throw a third floor up right away if so.

[wary vapor]

one thing i've always wanted to try (but we don't really have the space for) is a central kitchen space with 5 cellars branching off, one for each nutrition type

But instead of chef I chose the role of forgemaster

[wispy swift]

I can envision it now, main kitchen and cellars laid out in a modular, expandable grid, including but not limited to such luxuries as a dish room, dining hall, etc. 😆

[slow surge]

Bagsy not doing the dishes

[opaque cove]

I have connection issues on the current running server but not when i join the public vintage story server very strange OnO

just wanna put away this copper i found

[quick solar]

on 9 September 0 there is always a solar eclipse at 10:30am

It's a total solar eclipse if you're at spawn latitude

the game has a fixed solar system that does not change between worlds

In my first survival world I was at spawn latitude and I made a note of when it happened
I created a new world because I got unhappy with the world gen of that first one and just reached sepetember and I was waiting for it and it did happen again.

[south cypress]

i wonder if Th3Essentials mod might be a good for the Aavak server as it connects to the discord

[wicked locust]

If you put a barrel below the condenser will it fill directly out of it?

[long comet]

I don't think so

It's either buckets or jugs

[wicked locust]

Sad

[long comet]

I mean a full distiller is only 3 liters so there's little reason do do that

you'd need to transfer the liquid from the barrel either way

Also there's a slight issue with the distillery we have at the moment. Because the room isn't counted as a cellar the wine there doesn't keep for all that long

It's less of an issue with sub zero winter temperatures but it's a thing that should be taken into account

[wicked locust]

I don't know if the alcohol will last that long anyways

[wary vapor]

A second pantry above the first is being implemented

[wicked locust]

How long does juice last for

[long comet]

7 days or 28 days in a cellar

[wicked locust]

So wine should be 14

[long comet]

wine lasts for 1,3 years

[wicked locust]

Cider and Wine will equally spoil at half the rate of juice, however they can both be further processed into distilled alcohol which will not spoil regardless of source material

According to wiki

[long comet]

well, the handbook contradicts that

it's 7 days for juice, 1,3 years for wine

[wicked locust]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-shrug-maybe-i-dont-know-gif-14913933

Well if it lasts that long we should be good

[long comet]

well a cellar quadruples shelf life

a sealed room is not much worse

[wicked locust]

And distilled alcohol lasts forever according to wiki

[long comet]

that is true

it never spoils but you get no fruit nutrition from it

[wicked locust]

I know

I built a distillery not. Not A wine chateau

I was using a space that we had sitting around empty

[wary vapor]

neat

[errant surge]

ooh, a henge

[wary vapor]

I;ve seen a normal henge before, this henge is weird...

suspicious

[errant surge]

anything under it, or not excavated yet?

[wary vapor]

nah but i'll be passing back by it soon so i'll check

Baffled by the decision of someone to salt all the hides in the tannery cellar, in winter

guess i'm tossing hides that'll last 7 years into lime instead of hides that last 4 months

[opaque cove]

Hows the server going today :0

[dawn moss]

going good, rebuilding part of downtown

[opaque cove]

I may die when i join( if the computer gods let me) but ill be happy to help if anyone needs anything

[dawn moss]

token your bags were put down next to the forge so they dont despawn

[opaque cove]

the situation when I load in

[wary vapor]

neat

[dawn moss]

i wonder if i force kil you with the command line if it will unbreak your game

[wary vapor]

Earlier you were just stood in the forge, starving to death, for a good few minutes before the server announced you'd joined

[opaque cove]

o-o a ghost in the machine

[wary vapor]

I picked up the copper chunks you threw on the ground earlier and stored them, I know you were trying to deliver those

[opaque cove]

yippie

okie i'll try joining again

and you can force kil

Its weird cuz i connected to the public server fine

Long pause on respawning

[dawn moss]

fixed or still scuffed?

[opaque cove]

Hmm kil me again maybe

Its still doing the thing

If this is just the case I'll play only at like midnight est it was much more stable around that time

[dawn moss]

reconnect, ive tp'd you out of town

see if it works then

[wary vapor]

Okay this is cool and all but why is if off centre by one mini voxel horizontally AND vertically

[opaque cove]

Okie I think i need to set my spawn out of town

Sorry to be such a bother

Okie im gonna give up for now

[dawn moss]

big rip on that one

[wicked locust]

flax doesn't alcohol.

[wary vapor]

Ohhhhhh

damn

[tough thunder]

Hehehehee. It's all coming together.

[wary vapor]

IT'S LITERALLY THE SYMBOL FOR PERFECT BALANCE

AND YOU MADE IT WONKY

[tough thunder]

True art breaks convention and causes contention. Or something like that.

[wary vapor]

Ah and I just finally spotted the art on the forge

I have no idea what this is

[tough thunder]

It's a pie. 🥧

[dawn moss]

i left a piece of art in the middle of town and no one has complained about it yet

[wary vapor]

The fountain?

[tough thunder]

I also left my mark on the fountain. Tacos is what sent me on a graffiti spree.

[wary vapor]

I also don't know what the mark on the fountain is

I saw the heart on the pantry!

[dawn moss]

th heart is someone elses

[wary vapor]

I hope it's survived the renovation

[dawn moss]

i just transplanted it from the old to the new

[wary vapor]

Excellent

[tough thunder]

I've left like, 10 bits of art around so far. Need some more colours though. And more white.

[rotund dragon]

it is very cool but it's annoyingly off center (even though it seems it's an even width)

[rotund dragon]

lots of chicken?

[vocal holly]

free meat and eggs! 😛

[wicked locust]

We have many chickens... many

I only briefly saw them yesterday. And it was a "be not afraid" amount of feathers

[south cypress]

man there is not mod about pollution

[wicked locust]

There is a game for that. Also the tech level in the game is generally before that became a real problem

The highest realtech in the game is what steel making?

The biggest poluter would be tanneries i guess

[south cypress]

there are the kilns on the ground and beehive kilns that also can pollute

[wicked locust]

Then anything having to do with lead

[south cypress]

also i assume making charcoal also can pollute

[wicked locust]

I mean.. yeah they make CO2 but the amount is nothing compared to like industry.

The animal life in the game would be much worse

Also is the game psudo endless like Minecraft

[south cypress]

i did not mean early industrial age levels of pollution but medieval age type of pollution

[wicked locust]

So eco works better because the world is a set size at the beginning. In a game like vintage story the more you expand the world the more stuff populates it.

The more trees to consume CO2 the more animals to make methane

So atmospheric pollution is out of the questions.

Local chemical pollution is a bit more doable i guess

[south cypress]

more like smoke oes have effect on nearby blocks

[wicked locust]

You could make lead production and tanneries produce waste that needs to be cleaned up in some way or cause local ground and water pollution.

[south cypress]

something like that

[wicked locust]

Kill off crops and the like

[south cypress]

so you have the inrtustial areas far away from the farms

[wicked locust]

The problem with smoke based pollution is that it is atmospheric based and that is hard to do well in a game like vintage story.

[south cypress]

maybe smoke just leaves resedue on the blocks nearby

[wicked locust]

It go up and comes down somewhere else

[south cypress]

also needing a place to dump the waste from the tanneries and stuff which can make the area hostile to plant live

[wicked locust]

What do about animal pollution?

Its one of the huge ones

[south cypress]

maybe just the animal waste which need to be shoveled away to use as either compost or just dump it

[wicked locust]

What I'm asking about is wild animals

[south cypress]

that is hard to think as the usually the waste from wild animals just be claimed but the plants

i was thinking pollution that is man made that nature can't handle that well

[wicked locust]

Heavy metals is where its at

Give me a bit to research

So weird news. The compounds used in tanning in game are not particularly bad if you dumped them in flowing water in reasonable amounts. Tannin is not considered to be an issue when diluted and borax is naturally occurring. So as always the solution to pollution is dilution. And lime is litteral lime stone...

Though the chromium is real bad. Again with the metals.

[wary vapor]

Bell on the other side of the welleporter AGAIN

Why does this keep happening?!

It's the most shallow teleporter location we have!

I could make the thing open air with a few minutes work, it should not be possible for bells to spawn (but does make for good farming I guess)

[rotund dragon]

I wonder what causes them to spawn.
maybe player activity related?

[quick solar]

the bells are protesting the lack of a bell tower

obviously

[wary vapor]

Someone add a belfry to the windmill tower then 😆

[vocal holly]

oh dear lord that would be fantastic and horrid at the same time 😄

[wispy swift]

Betham, have you had a chance to explore the coast to the SE on the other side of the bridge TL? The ice capped mountain you can see there has a hollow section you can access along the coast and get fairly far inland by the map through it. Also has a few bonus locust nests in the ceiling dropping them in the water when you pass by. 😆

[wary vapor]

Oh interesting!

So far i've mainly explored southwest there

[wispy swift]

Ah, in that case I was hopeful for the trader I found that direction, but alas it was only a furniture one. I’ll share the coordinates when I get on. The Pond may also be turning into a sea from what I did manage to see of the coast.

[wary vapor]

God damn I just found a gold-lined silver lantern

A beautiful sight every time

[wispy swift]

It truly is a beacon of comforting return!

[wary vapor]

Whoever bloomed glass, I put it in the quartz chest in the forge

[rotund dragon]

🤔

Maybe if Aavak can stream Saturday you should give him a tour of the server

[wary vapor]

I am hoping we get to show off our work on stream

[wicked locust]

Needs a glowing bailfull eye

[wary vapor]

bit of chiselled chert and bauxite...

[wicked locust]

Maybe if he is not up to the full stream

[rotund dragon]

I was implying 😉

[wicked locust]

He is in voice com right now

[rotund dragon]

😮

[wicked locust]

@tough thunder can I commission you for somthing in the main server when its back up?

[wary vapor]

Server borked?

I cant get in

[long comet]

yeah seems to be down

[wispy swift]

Got back in now for me.

[quick solar]

so sleeping does not restore temporal stability faster

aka the rate of change for temporal stability is based on real world time instead of in game time

I'm reporting it as a bug

because it makes no sense for temporal stability not to increase based on in game time passing like everything else in the game does

and makes it really annoying while mining that you can't just sleep to regain temporal stability and going back

[wispy swift]

So I just got hit with a power outage out of the blue, so I’ll be out of the server for a bit.

[spring cradle]

Might be a balance conceit. If you went to sleep in a temporally unbalanced location, you'd wake up in the rust world and I think the devs would not want that to be an experience for new players.

Then again, maybe they would, haw.

[wary vapor]

WAIT I just realised something.
I've been confused before by how sometimes I can seemingly walk for days in the cold without freezing then other times I freeze super fast, unrelated to my character being wet cause I fell in a lake.

Does this game simulate WINDCHILL??

Cause if so that's amazing

[quick solar]

it does!

[wispy swift]

I want to say yes, because I know I always seem to get colder faster in the windy areas.

[quick solar]

Idk where I learned it from but the game absolutely simulates windchill

you can hide behind a tree to warm yourself up if you're caught in a snowstorm

[wary vapor]

no way

[spring cradle]

Easiest way is just to dig a cubby of course.

Though imagine if you could shape snow to make an igloo.

[wispy swift]

I just carry glacier ice with me and make igloo shelter out of that. 😆

[quick solar]

from a programing standpoint since they fully simulate weather they already had to simulate wind so adding windchill is not super difficult

also I think there's a mod for making igloos and shaping snow

[long comet]

The wind direction is not always accounted for

windmills ignore it

[wispy swift]

Although with the wind, does it feel like it always blows in the same direction to anyone else? It always seems to blow in the same direction in an area no matter when I visit.

[long comet]

it's only a factor in sand and snowstorms

[wary vapor]

yes, always east

[quick solar]

oh and one very obvious way to test the windchill is in a snowstorm at your base.

go outside and stand in the open and you can see how quickly you get covered in snow

then warm back up and go outside hiding behind a wall

[long comet]

you can also look at the hunger rate

[wary vapor]

Aaaand this time coming back through the welleporter I met a sawblade

[long comet]

Sawblade are great if you're prepared, they drop jonas parts

[wary vapor]

Oh, I know

[wispy swift]

It’s more of the consistency of them showing up with trying to use the Welleporter more than anything.

[spring cradle]

Maybe they've misunderstood and think it's a Belleporter.

[wary vapor]

Did Taco's internet just get throttled?

[spring cradle]

Back for me now.

[wary vapor]

yep

[spring cradle]

Eastern edge of west sea.

[steel crater]

*takes notes on forests to deforest

[spring cradle]

Good luck, some of those are the hilly forest type.

[wispy swift]

Some neat ruins I came across while coast mapping the North Sea.

[wary vapor]

beautiful!

[wicked locust]

i keep telling people we found those ruins but nobody listens

[wispy swift]

Well yes, you did mention them Alice, but you didn’t give any coordinates for me to double check against. There was also no digging here that I saw and the cracked vessels were intact so I couldn’t be sure if you had or not.

As it is, we’ve had 3-4 people “discover” the bridge TL, but it wasn’t until a couple days ago we actually got it up and running. 😅

[wary vapor]

We don't even know who first discovered it

Only that Wyn was second

And I forget who the third was but only then did we actually activate it

[wary vapor]

Spotted the goofiest pine ever

I'm naming it Marge

[wispy swift]

So the white part of the fog is gone, but the dampening effect stays? I've never seen it fully dull lanterns before though, even with the white part around.

[slow surge]

So I was scaling the outside of the windmill. And I caught the sails. Which broke them off. I've put the sails in the chest in the chest under the "Bauxite" sign, in the windmill. Sorry 😞

[wary vapor]

I believe I just found the final part for the terminus teleporter!

[long comet]

The planetery gear?

If so all the materials are prepared in the jonas parts chest

Just one intermediary part needs to be crafted

[wary vapor]

Well, now they're in the Jonas parts workshop

[tough thunder]

Huge ruins down south. Almost seems like an old shorline fortress.

[wary vapor]

Technology Origin Cave can only dream of

Anyway if I see the temporal gear supply to start plummeting because people start using it every time a bear kills them 700 tiles from spawn i'm gonna hide the rest of them

We're about to run an experiment on the Tragedy of the Commons

[long comet]

origin cave is one component away too

just the flux gap thingy needed

[spring cradle]

Dreams do come true. (As does nightmares, judging by the Rust world).

[long comet]

you can technically automate the input of temporal gears into the terminus teleporter with a chute and a container

[wary vapor]

Neat, but that's just gonna make someone think it runs for free and churn through 10 gears getting crushed by cave-ins digging upwards from a TL

[vocal holly]

it would be convenient for a group transport if only one person is managing the gear supply

[long comet]

I've known some people use termini teleporters to transport mass amounts of items one way

Will 4 backpacks travel on foot somewhere, die, get more stuff and teleport again

[vocal holly]

yeah some foke do that stuff too

[wary vapor]

It's finally happened, i've emptied the iron ore crates

We actually need iron again

[wispy swift]

That feels like an incredible achievement. 😆

[spring cradle]

(pickaxe hand twitching)

[wispy star]

why would they die when they can just put the backpacks down

[long comet]

so you can get back to that space repeatedly without resetting your spawn point

as the terminus telporter teleports you to the place you died

[wispy star]

ohh

[long comet]

costly in gears though

1 temporal gear per 4 backpacks worth of stuff+the backpacks themselves

[wary vapor]

Never seen this before

All of the objects in this tomb are manacles or childrens toys

[spring cradle]

Gatdamn.

[steel crater]

relevant question: how long after death do items despawn?

[wary vapor]

30 mins

and it might only be 30 mins of the chunk the items are in being loaded

[wispy swift]

I'm going with the second, because I have definitely popped back into the nickel mine after being away for more than half and hour with the peridotite I dropped for ore space still around to be picked up. It's happened at least twice for me so far.

[wary vapor]

Yeah, so even if you die far away, you should easily be able to get your stuff back on foot. The terminus teleporter is there for niche circumstances where corpse running isn;t a viable option for some reason

If someone does want to use it liberally, they should keep a personal temporal gear stash for it

[spring cradle]

Someone said we were out of iron to melt.

I dispute that with facts.

[wary vapor]

😆

[wary vapor]

Found a ruin doing a very bad job of hiding it's super secret room underneath

[wary vapor]

Our metal stocks are getting insane

[long comet]

Found a luxury trader

[blissful cipher]

Sorry for the late update in @here, ended up sleeping (poorly XD) through half of yesterday. I'm feeling lots better on the whole, but still not up to a community day stream; after the last stream I was pretty washed for much of the following day, and although I suspect I'd fare better now, still not up to my 'normal' for even half a day's streaming, much less the whole thing. At least with a 'regular' stream if I'm feeling rough I can wrap things up without too much worry, but with a community stream I know I'd be more likely to push on a bit longer just so people can get more time on the server and I don't trust myself to be sensible about it (hey, at least I'm aware of my faults :P)

[inner badger]

rest up <3

[blissful cipher]

Based on how much better I'm feeling week to week, I'm hopeful we'll be able to go ahead with the server next week though. However it might be a half day thing rather than the full day, if so I'll adjust the start times so the stream (and thus, the server) are live across the middle of the day, rather than morning or evening.

[mellow gull]

Take your time.

I predict the first attempt at a community day is going to happen on the 21st because that's the one weekend I can't be here. I've already made peace with this.

[knotty helm]

im farily certain we all much rather an aavak that feels at the top of his game rather than an aavak that has to force himself to stream, community day is about fun after all

[lunar lion]

Take your time to rest bud ^^

[lunar lion]

The prophet has spoken.

[cold berry]

Good to hear that your doing better than before at least, still confused as to where this other server is that people made

[blissful cipher]

I may well stream something later, dunno. Was hoping to stream something last night but as we know, that didn't happen XD Right now just trying to play things by ear and at least pretend I'm sensible enough to stop when my body's telling me it's had enough, instead of pushing on because I'm drowning in boredome; or worse, a feeling of obligation.

[mellow gull]

I support you in pretending you're sensible!

[lunar lion]

Do we need to purchase bindings [of the kinky variety upon request] and chain you to bed for the rest of June?

[cold berry]

My opinion would be to just read, I tend to do way to much of that due to my ADHD

[vocal holly]

dragons are sensible, i hear a bed of gold and gubbins is comfy.

[quick solar]

Feelings of obligation are particularly hard to deal with
But please remember any and all of the dapperlings wants you to be fully recovered from the surgery
When the feelings of obligation hit I would recommend recontextualising them into an obligation of being in good health to be able to do the other stuff you feel obligated to
Much easier that way than just ignoring them outright

You probably already know that but I find that sometimes it helps to have someone else remind you of these things

Also apologies if the writing is a bit weird I'm still waking up

[wary vapor]

Take all the time you need. I'm very happy you're pacing yourself and being realistic about the effort you expend rather than falling into the common content creator trap of just powering through regardless, I have had too many friends risk causing themselves damage for the sake of consistency or a sense of obligation.
In the meantime we will continue our work on the high tech future utopia that is Lost Lake and hope to one day give you a tour when you do return.

[wicked locust]

i may join for a bit in a bit

#more booze

[wary vapor]

Resonator get!

[wary vapor]

Who keeps salting hides??

They're going in lime anyway!

[novel slate]

Henlo, I've played Vintage Story solo with and with out mods a little bit (just copper and molds) and wanted to try joining a multi player game, is there a server folks here play on that's up?

[wary vapor]

Yep!

[tough thunder]

Server has like five on at the moment. SO come on and join

[wary vapor]

Unofficial community server while we wait for the return of Aavak:
96.51.45.74:42420 / password is Dapperling

[novel slate]

Thank ya! will do ^.=.^

Forgot to disable mods on my first attempt hah

[tropic yacht]

I crashed, doing a update to video drivers

what version are you running atm?

[wary vapor]

.20.11

Keep trying, crashing is common with VS

[tropic yacht]

it was a video issue just had to take it down to medium

[wary vapor]

Beautiful

the new pantry starting to look like a church

All hail pie

Praise be to the porridge