#Vintage Story - Community Game Server

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heavy condor
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correction, we only play when aavak plays

steady arrow
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and between said 2 streams

steel crater
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The story isn't over, we only did the first part of it.

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Here's a picture from when we holed up in Engineering to weather the storm

hard meteor
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huh, i thought i made a steel helm, looks iron tho, was making so many chains for people guess i made the iron instead for myself

heavy condor
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Flops OF course i find a mod tha tensures my lumberyard can continue without needing to shear all th eleaves

wicked locust
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I wasn't there

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All of the drifters that spawned in the shaft immediately fell into the bottom of the hole with me

south cypress
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so the archives are best place to hide a storm?

wicked locust
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I killed like 10 of them before I was overwhelmed by arrows and logged off with 1 hp

wicked locust
south cypress
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true but you were just unlucky

wicked locust
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Yeah i heard it was pretty easy to hold the one side that you were having spawns on

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But I wasn't there sooo

south cypress
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well there was a instant spawn in the same time soon as the storm started almost killing me but after that only few spawed

wicked locust
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It seems the spawns pathing dosnt account for ledges

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It would have been much worse if you were at the bottom.

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But I think if everyone was there we would have managed

south cypress
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i mean that is given

wicked locust
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Had had time to prepare properly I would have shoved myself in the lower stairway.

south cypress
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we really were unable to help

wicked locust
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It would have limited the amount of arrows that could have hit me and the directions of advance of the enemy. The place I was had about a 90 degree angle that was open to assault and had no vertical cover.

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Oh I know

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I wasn't able to find the way up in time

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I had actually foud that cistern before the storm but I couldn't see the ladder from the edge and didn't think I had good chances of surviving in there with no cover or sight

south cypress
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but you did survive?

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until the boss right?

wicked locust
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Yes

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I had to log out when I hit 1 hp

south cypress
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i think Aavak was hoping for the lord of the rings type of fight

wicked locust
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Yeah

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If the drifters had better pathing that may have happened

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Also if the storm had been worse

south cypress
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only funny thing from that was Aavak chasing a bowhorn into the hole

wicked locust
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Yeah

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Does anyone know where we can find a pile of marble?

south cypress
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wiki says under sedimentary rock or as deposits in phyllite or slate

wicked locust
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Yeah i saw that

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We need tables and stuff for the great hall

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Also we need to chisle out a Fukton of tableware

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Idk we could make things out of wood or normal stone but that feels boring

south cypress
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it's rare says reddit best way to spot it is in slate

long comet
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But from my experience marble is rare

south cypress
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only good for a building block as it be waste using it same way lime is used

long comet
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Yeah, building is the use for marble

south cypress
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marble table top

long comet
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it can also be used for marble countertops

south cypress
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i like to have basalt as it look amazing which i did find in ym single player world

wicked locust
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You could carve out entire blocks of marble into a table as well

wary vapor
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The room was even a similar vibe, it had that higher tier section on one side, plus being hurled around the room, firing a crapton of arrows

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But yeah the first few seconds of the storm were a little chaotic but it quickly calmed down cause I imagine there's a limit to how many mobs can be spawned at once so they quickly collected in the eidolon room, the pit, probably the stairs to the library, etc, meaning barely any were spawning around us compared to your average storm in origin cave

south coral
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For next week... Tailors: are our flax stockpiles in a state where I could reasonably order just a cartload of beds and chairs for the Inn?

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If not, I can make do with straw beds... but proper beds would be very nice ๐Ÿ˜…

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also, Kalisa, I have tried my hand at the chisel and... wow, you are just so much better at this than me xD
Could I possibly pay you in food and hugs to decorate my kitchen as well? GhostHug

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Not even necessarily the entire thing, just... a fancier stove, maybe, and some advice on the counter. Maybe the hearth? ๐Ÿ˜…

hard meteor
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may not be able to help with the entire kitchen but wouldnt mind helping with 1 or 2 projects inside it and help with advice ^-^

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i also recommend checking out chisel tutorials or inspiration videos to give some ideas, i personally love stuff like ChiselStudio by Arganoth, though allot have mods to help its not needed and can give some fun ideas

south coral
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Well, I mean, I know how the chisel works, and I have many ideas - I am just really bad at getting them into practice ๐Ÿ˜…

hard meteor
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its often why i turn to inspiration or these tutorials as i get more comfortable with the system, to see how these others put it into practice, what techniques they use and how they approach it

hard meteor
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hoping to do some brainstorming on my single player, try to work out some fun new chiseled designs i can implant into the server, trying to make more fancy light posts for my farms right now

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sadly cant do too much large scale chiseling on server as i just dont have the patience for that in vanilla, but smaller projects like afew peices are not too bad

hexed bane
hard meteor
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wish i took more screenshots, espically of the library

dawn moss
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sadly our flax stock is at no flax. spent it all on windmills and gambeson for the dungeon

wary vapor
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Flax in VS is like iron in any factory game

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At any one time in my solo game i'm growing all the flax seeds I own, i'm in my third autumn and I still have no spare flax

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I gave up on the dream of gambeson armour on account of having the tech and resources for full steel plate ๐Ÿ˜†

lunar lion
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When full steel plate feels more possible than just linen XD

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At least for Origin, I might have some spare flax seeds

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We might be able to plant and harvest before winter

long comet
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Steel can be feasibly expanded on during downtime, flax is just time gated as there's no way you're just finding a siginificant amount of flax

lunar lion
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Alternatively, we find a bell and farm mobs!

long comet
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That is a thing you can do but that's hardly an optimal method

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We should however get some sylvite from the salt pillars we found to increase the potassium nutrient cap of our soil to make flax grow faster

lunar lion
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From what i have noticed at least, bowtorns or whatever they are called, almost always drops a thread

dawn moss
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behind the right wall next to the entrance

lunar lion
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I thought we needed saltpeter, not salt?

long comet
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sylvite makes potash which increases the cap and is an even better K fertilizer

lunar lion
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

long comet
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it effectively increases the soil's tier by one for the purpose of growing K crops

lunar lion
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Fantastic

long comet
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Saltpeter is also an N fertilizer which most grains belong to

wary vapor
# long comet Steel can be feasibly expanded on during downtime, flax is just time gated as th...

Exactly. While I wait for flax to grow, i've:

  • Found a MASSIVE iron ore vein
  • Mined probably over 100 ingots worth from it
  • Grown and logged several forests
  • Build a dedicated charcoal furnace and run it a dozen times
  • Used the flax harvest to make windmills to run the helve hammer to smith the blooms
  • Discovered fire clay, quartz, bauxite, olivine and even ilmenite
  • built the steel cementation furnace and run it several times
    And I STILL don't have enough flax for gambeson armour or bandages or parchment
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I skipped linen sacks, when straight to leather, even making sturdy leather now

dawn moss
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proposal for a winter mission: everyone goes off in different directions to find as many flax seeds as humanly possible

wary vapor
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Not a bad idea tbh

lunar lion
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Aren't we getting extra from farming?

wary vapor
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I always mark growing flax when I find it and only harvest the grown stuff

dawn moss
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we are, but like. we needs to increase flax production 300% to have a decent supply

wary vapor
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I've stopped growing carrots in my game cause it hogs K nutrients and I need it for flax

lunar lion
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Carrots are overrated anyway

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Just eat the linen

wary vapor
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๐Ÿ˜†

lunar lion
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Joking aside though, I can go on a long trip next week

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Not south, since we have been there

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And see if I can bring back seeds, and cuttings

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Since we barely have any of those

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Which btw, loved the idea of planting them close to the road, saw those red apple cuttings

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They will look great once they grow

wispy swift
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As I hadn't joined when the first trip South happened, I didn't know where the waystations were until the group trip back up for the dungeon. As a result, I've taken other routes and have marked down a number of wild plant locations. I can double check them for flax on the next couple trips I make.

long comet
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Either way, the best optimisation of flax we can do at the moment is to make more terra pretta, have winter homes south with flax growing temperatures and mine sylvite from salt pillars

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If people don't know how it looks it's dark red/reddish brown blob of colour on the light pink of salt

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it also shows up on short range prospecting pick readings

wary vapor
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What do we need for more terra preta? I'm guessing compost, cause it's always compost

long comet
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Correct, it's always more compost

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we got bones for days, and charcoal is easy enough

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rot takes time and we don't have the food production to be making rot

wary vapor
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In my SP i've been harvesting berries and crops JUST to throw then in a chest outside in the sun to rot and then toss the rot in barrels ๐Ÿ˜†

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But yeah, that's harder to do in a server

long comet
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For berries you really want to press juice out of them

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it doubles the rot while preserving most of the saturation

wary vapor
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more mouths to feed but the same amount of crop seeds and berry bushes per mile

wary vapor
lunar lion
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If we need more compost,if we are okay on food, I could overhunt

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Just gather a stupid amount of meat and let it rot

long comet
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I'd say berry bush field are the most worthwhile

lunar lion
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You dare let our potential alcohol rot?

long comet
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meat isn't all that rot efficient

lunar lion
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What is wrong with you!

wary vapor
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We need... A juice bar. Maybe something for the market

long comet
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so it's more alcohol in fact

lunar lion
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Hmmm... You make convincing arguments

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We don't have that many animals to feed

long comet
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If we're planting industrial amounts of flax we'll have industrial amounts of flax grain

lunar lion
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I personally have 60 farm plots, over half being terra preta. I am barely able to feed my small coop of chicks

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I would prefer grain for them than let them rot XD

long comet
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It takes ages for grain to rot, so it'd be faster to feed it to animals

lunar lion
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Mhmm

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I think outside of a pantry it's like, almost a year?

long comet
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Something like that

lunar lion
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Hence why i haven't bothered storing it properly yet

long comet
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Ah, I tested dough before and it's actually as efficient?

lunar lion
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It's gone way before it gets a chance to rot XD

long comet
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let me check

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1 grain to 1 flour to 1 dough to 1 bread
32 grain to 8 rot
32 flour to 8 rot
32 dough to 32 rot
32 part baked bread to 32 rot
32 bread to 32 rot
32 charred bread to 32 rot

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here we go that was the data

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either way, we're going to want to keep grain for a while before we have enough to compost it

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it's more likely we'd want to turn it to ale before it rots too

errant surge
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and if it is because of distance to the player then the few times you might walk by would mean it'll be decades ingame before those few crops out in the wild are harvestable and at that point you probably don't need them all that much anymore

wary vapor
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I thought I was just missing the window for the further crops seeing as I was able to catch the closer ones fully grown]

wary vapor
hard meteor
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yup, definitly worth it if ur overflowing with grain

lunar lion
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What a big if XD

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Interesting data though

long comet
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Yeah, I did some testing for rot amounts before

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you can find the data here

hard meteor
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i mean we should have more then enough foodd at this point, we pulling in so many veggies and grain this year and we can hunt dduring winter

wary vapor
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I know in my SP I have insane amounts of grain, i'd stopped bothering to grow anything but flax, and i'm eating through flax bread slower than i'm producing it

errant surge
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sandwich mod?

hard meteor
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i just make all my grain into pies, if if stocked on pies, i make it into dough andd let it rot for more terra

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if we want to be more food effecient with the animals as well we can lock the males away so they dont eat, they dont need to eat to mate, and the males will continue to eat even when good weight andd not breedding so they eat through food like crazy, unless of course your butchering then let em fatten up

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and once we get both towns connected we will be growing crops year round that can be exported to origin pretty easily i imagin, not sure how cold it gets in labrador

dawn moss
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i think lab is year round growing season

rotund dragon
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Oo

lunar lion
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We will see during the winter i guess

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What temps they reach down there

rotund dragon
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I'm currently at the salt episode.
How much has changed?

knotty helm
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current bottle-neck is just that harvesting the fields and pressing them into juice takes a while, and im lazy/doing other things ๐Ÿ˜„

hard meteor
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will be nice when we have enough livestock to actually eat allot of the pulp, right now our animal numbers still quite small

inner badger
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Im always happy to help cook and such when not needed to tailor :3

wary vapor
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What does he know

wispy swift
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In an effort to have something of a building plan to work towards for prettying up the Post offices, I've been playing around in Creative. I'm trying to stick with relatively local materials for ease of gathering between runs and wanted to double check. Has peridotite sand been found near Origin?

wary vapor
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Not super near but you hit peridotite before waypoint A and there's surely some beaches around there

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By the way, you'd be very welcome to set up the post office in the market hall, early next week it should be in a usable state

dawn moss
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i think theres peridotite sand at approx 1000 south of spawn

steel crater
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I've been prioritizing growing flax in the second community farm; the thread I've gotten so far has all been gobbled up as soon as it grows; hopefully to good causes.

If we really want more flax production, then we need more seeds. Terra Prata is nice, but it's only a multiplier on what we already have. Exploring for resources is one of the most basic fuctions in the game; every single one of us can go afield and look for it.

I've found that exploring in autumn works great for looking for crops, because the grass turns brown but the (growing) plants stay green so they're easy to spot.

It's also pretty easy to find berry bushes while exploring to up berry production for rot; they're all over the place.

dawn moss
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i was sniping the flax from your farm hoshi

wispy swift
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Oh, that will be more than close enough for me to grab then. I don't need a ton if I've done my math right.

As to a stall at the market, will it be helpful to have a sub branch there? I could set up something along the lines of temporary storage if people need to swap inventory stuff around while picking up/dropping stuff off..

steel crater
wary vapor
dawn moss
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mostly went to gambeson and sails

steel crater
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btw now that we got gliders we'll have even more demand on flax ><

dawn moss
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also 4 gliders

wispy swift
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I have a habit of picking up ripe berry bushes for the extra food boost when wandering afield. I could start grabbing all berry bushes I see if I have the space to do so.

wary vapor
final ivy
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How far away from origin town to lab?

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I know I am new to the community server but traveling sounds fun

wary vapor
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14k south

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Though at this point most of it has roads in place

final ivy
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14000 blocks you mean correct?

wary vapor
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Yep

final ivy
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Crazy how you guys have roads leading to there

wispy swift
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The roads help shorten the time significantly. I can make the trip in about 28 in-game hours if I don't veer off to wildly in the middle. I would plan for a good bit longer on your first trip down if you don't have the waypoints to aim for.

final ivy
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Thanks for the advice^^

wary vapor
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as I bring in the final harvest of the year before the third winter of my single player run, it seems that I might finally have enough flax

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I'm also in full steel chain ๐Ÿ˜†

final ivy
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Nice!

stark bison
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I had the idea of digging under the windmill there and move the stuff that needs mechanical power down there into seperate rooms. And link all windmills that might be made on the mountain all connect into a central gearbox room, which would mean that there is plenty of mechanical power available for everything

long comet
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The resistance of a single axle is not much but they can add up

wary vapor
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Oh, it is a thing...

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In that case, maybe several independent windmills driving a specific machines isn't the worst idea

long comet
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Yeah in the voice channel we were talking about moving the smithing equipment fully to Kalisa's smithy and making the mill into a dedicated gristmill

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What I do on singleplayer is make a single vertical axle with large gears and sails going off of those

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This way a windmill can be expanded vertically fir quite some time

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But it can be visually unappealing

wary vapor
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If we raise the circular gear in Kalisa's forge 2 or 3 tiles off the ground e can have the anvil directly beneath and hook 4 helves to it coming off each side of the big gear

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(If there's enough sails to run 4 helves)

long comet
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But what you're talking about can be done on the input side instead

wary vapor
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Ohh, the mechanical power passes through them, right

austere furnace
long comet
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With 4 sails going into a large gear

wary vapor
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Makes it easy to have a switch between each one

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then you can enable however many helves the wind can support

long comet
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So you can choose how many helve hammers you're running

wary vapor
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Is there an echo in here

long comet
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Ah wait i didn't quite connect what you were saying

wary vapor
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๐Ÿ˜†

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But yeah I like the idea of moving smithing to kalisa's helve (assuming kalisa does ๐Ÿ˜† )

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Cause every time I want to use the quern someone's in there already helving and I don't want to interfere with their work speed

long comet
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Another benefit to having serial hammers is you can increase speed of smithing in increments of 1 instead of 5 times like a gearbox does

wary vapor
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Clearing out the helve from the town windmill would also make some space to upgrade the quern to a hopper-based one so you can just throw everything that need grinding in a chest and pick it all up from an output chest later

long comet
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Exactly, some preperation has been made already, for example 4 hoppers were made

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The gearbox could also be shrunk as the quern is unlikely to be run on low gear

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And high gear is likely to be used

hard meteor
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would prefer not to make my helve hammer setup the main town one, i dont mind helping with overflow when allot of work needs to get done though, but we can probably do the internals in the town windmill allot better

long comet
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Understood, there just isn't all that much space in the mill, so a proper building for mechanised smithing will have to be made, or maybe the old smithy retrofitted with a windmill to meet the town's needs

wicked locust
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So we can make knives but I wonder if its possible to make anything resembling a spoon

long comet
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Like chiseling one out?

wicked locust
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Ye

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Is it possible to get that fine of detail?

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We might want tableware for the great hall

long comet
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if you were to use depth in addition to shape it should be possible

wicked locust
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Like not a ladle but like a personal sized spoon

rotund dragon
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i don't hink so

long comet
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the scaling might not be on your side then

rotund dragon
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would be nice if there was free form smithing

wicked locust
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Sorry I am not particularly familiar with the limitations of chiseling

long comet
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a tablespoon might not be possible, a serving spoon might be possible though

rotund dragon
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no teaspoon? ๐Ÿ˜ญ

wicked locust
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Many sad

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Im also wondering what era of table setting we should go with

rotund dragon
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spoon is ancient

wicked locust
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Yes it is

rotund dragon
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but maybe chopsticks ๐Ÿ˜‚

wicked locust
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Personal fork not nessisary pre 1700

long comet
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you can get 1/32th of a block of resolution

wicked locust
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Technically everyone should be bringing their own knife

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But we could make a bunch to leave in a box or something

rotund dragon
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copper knife is more hygienic than iron

long comet
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that depends on the fanciness of the gathering, most people would have their own personal cutlery, it would be provided only if the host want to flex their wealth

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like giving away silverware kinda flexing

wicked locust
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We are going to need two silver settings for the king and queen.

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Cause poison

rotund dragon
long comet
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silver goblets where somewhat common with nobility as silver reacts with arsenic blackening it

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but chiseling silver is probibitively expensive

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it's as costly for a single block as your silver plate helmet is

wicked locust
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Heh

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Also sad no Pewter

rotund dragon
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yet

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imagine the absolute luxury of aluminium plates and cutlery

long comet
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aluminium while very common requires a foundation of chemistry to obtain

wicked locust
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It's not actually useful for tools or anything

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Too soft

wicked locust
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Pewter that is

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Aluminum is great

long comet
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well, alumn is in game, but aluminium or pewter is not

rotund dragon
long comet
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that's not useful for chiseling

wicked locust
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I guess

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That might be the only real use for it though

long comet
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brass is good for tableware as it's antimicrobial, and we should be able to get it in good amounts

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so we could have good looking brass tableware

wicked locust
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True

long comet
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actually is even copper and it's alloys

wicked locust
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Knives, bowles, plates, and platters.

rotund dragon
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bowls are fine made of wood

wicked locust
rotund dragon
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no

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can I?

wicked locust
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Cause that better be some fancy ass wood

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One sec

long comet
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when 1.21 is out actual colourful clay bowls will be available

wicked locust
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Is big and fancy

rotund dragon
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that hall is to great ๐Ÿ˜ญ I cannot comprehend it's full glory

wicked locust
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It has to be fit for the castle its in

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We have many plans.

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But I am not the lead architect.

vocal holly
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As long as dirt bowls don't end up in my place, I'll be happy ๐Ÿ˜›

long comet
vocal holly
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provided you don't need the extra colour its a good tip

long comet
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I've played the game of ur in vintage story using marble and slate pieces made using this method. So it's great for recreating simple board games

ashen musk
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dprCULT ๐Ÿ‘€

vocal holly
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The resident board gamer has arrived... Mai we don't have board game in VS, not yet... ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

rotund dragon
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Not the omok

long comet
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Yes, omok is a thing

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You need to buy the pieces though

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Melting them is also one way to reliably aquire gold

wary vapor
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packed dirt in the middle of town is no good, we gotta make that thing out of brick

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What's on the top floor, is that the adjoining room of the dapper deli? We could keep the ground floor as the casting smithy but expand to the floor above or a full basement for a smithing smith with helve setup

hexed bane
wary vapor
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There's also an option, and I have to say this every time, of putting a smithy or helve setup in the market hall ๐Ÿ˜…

hexed bane
long comet
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I guess that'd also take care of the fact that routing power through a room nessecitates an open hole in the wall

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I guess there's certain ambience to smithing

wary vapor
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I just want the market to be as lively as possible. Honestly it makes way more sense to put the helve on the floor above the communal smithy, but i'm always gonna offer a spot in the market cause the more stuff the market has, the more people will go there, the more incentive there will be to use the market

heavy condor
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I think I'm with Bentham, having it in the Market hall would make sense

long comet
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I have nothing against it an open forge has a good look to it too

heavy condor
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I'm likely to open up a stall of chiseled wooden furniture for aesthetics

wary vapor
heavy condor
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I will likely keep a small selection at the stall with the bigger bulk of the logs and woods kept at the lumberyard

wary vapor
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Yes, exactly, the stall can hold basic amounts and you can have signage directing people to your tree farm for larger demands of wood

heavy condor
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I do already have signage up pointing to the lumberyard, maybe not enough, but it is there

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we should also make a central area that has directions to various further out things

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But yeah i think basic supplies in my stall for wood and logs, but with more stock of various wooden furnitures or an order form for furniture (Limited to wood, if you need thigs other then wood on said furniture you take my product to someone else to do those bits after the basic wood chiselling is done)

heavy condor
wary vapor
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A furniture stall rtuesWOW

heavy condor
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Yup, Simple Furnitures albeit

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Also found my weird lag issues i think

long comet
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If we're making a market some display cases would be in order wouldn't they?

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Or is that too high brow

wary vapor
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Display cases would be great!

heavy condor
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I know my displayed items wouldn't have a use for em, unless they do work in showing off the full size of a chiselled block? but even then i think others owuld have more use instead of mine

wary vapor
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Once I have a few stall plots ready to go, i'm gonna set up a section near the entrance with some stall building guidance and chests of supplies for building stalls

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But it's basically gonna be: do whatever you like within the space of the stall, make it look nice, the style is up to you

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It can be a wall of chests with signs, or an elaborate maze of displays and decorations

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You wanna make a food shop, it can be a room full of storage vessels or a meticulously chiselled cafe setup with counter and kitchen

south cypress
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man a build i like to make needs kapok wood but that means i need to go south to find enough to make the build

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on my sinlge player game

south cypress
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is there only one type of ship (i don't count the raftas a ship) or just a one

wary vapor
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Just one as far as i've seen

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Though the wood can be varied

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And the contents

south cypress
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just wondering

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i currently need 21 linen

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the ship is made from pine

wary vapor
south cypress
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i knew i needed linen for the sails as i am in a island with small mountain or two full of pines and the other type i forgot

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i had to check wiki and seems like wool is not a thing?

long comet
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it's not

south cypress
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so flax is only fabric you can get?

long comet
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so far that's the case

south cypress
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shame

long comet
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but animals have been getting overhauls and improvments in recent updates

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so wool might be coming soon

south cypress
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i assumed there was wool becasue of shears

long comet
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shears are for leaves

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and pruning bushes

south cypress
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for now

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until they add wool to the game i assume shears will only used on leaves and pruning bushes

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man i need to build a farm for flax and i don't remember if i had flax seeds (i assume i have knowing i need it)

heavy condor
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sighs Got the weird lag spike issue figured out, only for my mods to not be useable due to some reason

wary vapor
heavy condor
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Flax has always been the rarest for me

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on my singleplayer

wicked locust
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336

heavy condor
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Welp no wonder i wasn't finding Tin/Bronze materials

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they dont' spawn in this block

long comet
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what host rock were you mining in?

heavy condor
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was looking in Sandstone (Surface bits)

long comet
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ah, even then surface tin is incredibly rare

heavy condor
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I set it fairly high

wary vapor
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I've never fiund surface tin. Thankfully i've found a decent amount just stumbling across it caving, but the first tin I found was after finding iron, black coal, zinc, basically everything ๐Ÿ˜†

long comet
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at least tin is visible in most rocks

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zinc is absolutely invisible in some

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bismuth is also harder to spot

wary vapor
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I was lucky to find zinc very early in shale, the best rock to find it in

long comet
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My first find of zinc was in granite and it was solely because of the block overlay telling me I'm lookin at zinc

wary vapor
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๐Ÿ˜†

blissful cipher
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hah, yeah, the amount of times I find an ore because the overlay tells me what I'm looking at XD

wary vapor
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I think I read on the wiki that many players find out they've struck zinc when they find it in their inventory ๐Ÿ˜†

blissful cipher
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That wouldn't surprise me even in the slightest XD

dawn moss
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tbf zinc's texture is like 1% different from regular blocks

heavy condor
errant surge
heavy condor
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Meh, restarting as often as I have has taught me a lot

errant surge
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eh, yeah, suppose there is that, but at least if the time gets borked for some reason you know how to fix it now

heavy condor
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If I had over twenty hours in it I would've, but only had 1 hour in it

rotund dragon
heavy condor
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What stones is Olivine found in? Just Peridotite?

errant surge
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it's the only rock that shows up in the handbook, so yeah

heavy condor
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Annoying, I've found one patch of perdotite on any of my singleplayer games,

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and that was only in my creative test world

wary vapor
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I had to jump through 2 translocators to find a peridotite biome. The nice ting is that once you've found a peridotite biome, you'll have more olivine thatn you know what to do with

wispy swift
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I took a look at the wiki for it yesterday because I wasn't sure if the patch I hit was abnormally large or not, but it looks like if you find a deposit of it, it will be quite large.

wary vapor
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Yeah disk diameter is anything from 1 to 128

rotund dragon
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128 is huge

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but then again

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that's the maximum

wary vapor
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Yeah that's like, 10000 olivine?

south cypress
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i did not know you can make torch holders

wary vapor
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Yarp, brass only

south cypress
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ah

wary vapor
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It's generally only for decoration or to have a torch mounted next to firepits, pit kilns, charcoal kilns, steel furnaces etc

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Cause it's 2 plates to a torch holder, torches having 14 light, while one plate makes a lantern which have 18 light

south cypress
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i assume best used for lanters than a torch holders the brass

wary vapor
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yup

rotund dragon
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only if you have the candles

odd oracle
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from what i understand wax is not the problem but rather the additional demand of flax fibers for the candles

hard meteor
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i typically only use torch holders around places that need a torch to easily light stuff, otherwise wouldnt waste the materials on them

errant surge
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unless you've got one of those smithing with bits mods in which case it's an ingot and a few bits

rotund dragon
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That sounds cool but, no mods

wary vapor
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But once you have bees the only real limit to your candle supply is your cattail supply

rotund dragon
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You can never have enough cattail

steel crater
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challenge accepted

long comet
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Hoshi, no matter what you do a use for obscene amounts of cattails will be found

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if not slings, then poultice, if not poultice then rope ladders or baskets

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skeps also take great amounts of cattails

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You will probably make a lot of people happy along the way but it'll be the journey that will be the most fruitful, not the end

wispy swift
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Now I'm just imagining a large side hall in the castle filled floor to ceiling with full crates of cattails. XD

long comet
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up until a beekeeper comes in an comically inhales the cattail only to spew out innumerable skeps

wary vapor
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90% of my cattails go to skeps

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9% to healing, 1% to everything else

knotty helm
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it is a simple flowchart: do you have enough cattails?
can you place more skeps? if yes, you do not have enough. if no, make some space for skeps untill you can place more, go back to question 1

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๐Ÿ˜„

south cypress
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is there a mod that gives proxy voice chat?

long comet
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There seems to be one

south cypress
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was just wondering as it might be good for the server

long comet
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Looking further there is even a proximity text chat mod

blissful cipher
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Ya, interested in that for a future server.

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Voice and text.

long comet
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It also gives a chat notification if 50% of people are asleep

blissful cipher
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Less so in that.

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Wish that a mod to do voice chat, or text chat, would just be that.

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I ... am not a big fan of the Swiss Army Knife style of modding.

south cypress
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i seen a mod in minecraft that (i assume) same how the sleeping does to the server

blissful cipher
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"Let me just install this cool 'beds' mod for Rimworld. Wait... why do my pawns have sidearms now? Also, WHERE DID ALL THE CATGIRLS COME FROM>!"

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I like mods to be very modular in nature, doing just one job, well.

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Personal pref, obvs.

long comet
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That's why I really liked the Alchemist mod in terraria as it also has a lite version which disables everything aside from the potion selling npcs

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It's weird how the proxmity voice chat adds bells and horns and it's also the only mod offering its main capability. The proximity text chat mod however seems to be configurable to disable it's secondary additions

rotund dragon
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Mods are weird

long comet
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Alright, I installed the proximity voice chat mod and it seems the additional content can indeed be disabled through the config file

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so both the proximity chat mods can be purely proximity chat mods

rotund dragon
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But why are they one mod ๐Ÿ˜ž

long comet
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yeah, I feel like it'd be better if the additional content of those mods was opt in rather than opt out

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because seeing the cacophony of bone flutes, bells and horns would spell pandemonium

south cypress
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i rather have a mod that let's you actually play music not just same noise all over

iron bolt
rotund dragon
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how do you make a setup for that?
I always end up making a mess of clogged pipes

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so then just use chests instead

long comet
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I use 2 trunks and a 2 elbow chutes in mine

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the automatic input though, is simple

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you just need a straight chute on top and some container on top of that

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actually I think my setup uses more chutes

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I output to 2 containers as it makes it easier

hard meteor
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i can get a pic of my quern setup if u want but its alittle bulkier then others

hard meteor
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tho it does take allot of parts, and blocks 1 of the 4 sides of the quern

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and on other side of wall i have my dropoff box and access box

south cypress
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i did buy blue glass in my single player game and added one to my lanter

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and if i have the blue glass lanter and a torch out at the same time i get green

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i assume the torch gives yellow light and the blue lanter give blue light and well

long comet
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yeah

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the lantern gives off the colour of the glass

south cypress
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just need either 40 gold nuggets 40 silver nuggets or 20 of each to make a plate so it can be brigter

long comet
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the increase in brightness is not all that much to be honest

hard meteor
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if u wanted to do a quern setup in a kitchen, u could probably design the kitchen so the dropoff chest is hidden behind a custom cabnet on the roof, and the finished groundd items accessed below a cabnet undder the floor

long comet
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it's 18 to 20

south cypress
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it does give small visual differences to the lantern as well

hard meteor
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hit up some quartz deposits, usually not too hard to get enough gold or silver for those plates

long comet
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yeah, 40 silver is not all that hard to get

hard meteor
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prospect before hand tho, not all quarts deposits have gold and silver

south cypress
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so not in the ore then

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does the silver and gold have some fancy name in the prospecting thingy or is it just gold and silver?

hard meteor
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keep in mind, that wont show up on the large scan if its in quartz, u will needd to find a quarts deposit and do the short range scan well going into it to see if silver or gold is ddetectedd

long comet
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rely more on the local than the global search the global search isn't all that useful for gold. If you find it great but you can find it despite the lack of global reading

south cypress
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at least i manage to find kapok as i needed it for my build but that took so long to get that far in the south

long comet
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you can also find silver in galena sometimes

south cypress
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i know you can use lead to make windows but can you use coloured glass to have the window also coloured?

long comet
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not that I'm aware of

hard meteor
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you can make custom colored windows tho

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using glass blacks andd just chisel them

long comet
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yeah, chiseling always works

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a complex stained glass window is possible

south cypress
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i am not sure if i have the tallent to make nice looking windows

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was just thinking for the server house i have that needs glass

hard meteor
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well rip my redwood luck, planted 3 trees, harvestedd all the branches, got 1 seed, realllly hate this sapling chance for these other tree types..

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wouldnt be so bad if it was like fruit trees, let me harvest branches for seed chances that regrow back or something

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also running a skill mod where i have like an extra 20% chance to get saplings

south cypress
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just need blue glass

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in the server

rotund dragon
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how do you make that?

south cypress
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i am sure there is a luxury traider

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you can only buy it

rotund dragon
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I see ๐Ÿ˜ญ

south cypress
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only ones you can make is clear, smoky, pink, violet and green glass

long comet
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pink is incredibly rare though

south cypress
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you need rose quartz to make it

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the rest of the colours can only be purches from luxury traders

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so if you want pink glass just need to find rose quartz geode

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which i assume is rare

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but if rose quartz is found in the server i am sure Aavak won't mind having some pink windows

steel ore
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found a single piece of rose quartz in a ruin, would probably put it in a display case rather than use it to make glass though

rotund dragon
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iron -> green

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copper -> blue

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etc

long comet
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green glass is easy enough to get

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it's just olivine

rotund dragon
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uranium -> yellow

south cypress
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glow in the dark too

long comet
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isn't uranium glass green though? besides we don't have uranium

rotund dragon
south cypress
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it's green because it's glow in the dark part glows greens but is otherwise yellow

long comet
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to be fair I only have ever seen uranium ceramic

rotund dragon
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ah fluoreschens

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Depression glass is glassware made in the period 1929โ€“1939, often clear or colored translucent machine-made glassware that was distributed free, or at low cost, in the United States and Canada around the time of the Great Depression. Depression glass is so called because collectors generally associate mass-produced glassware in pink, yellow, c...

steel crater
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I have a pretty good field of cattail going already in the lake just north of town, about 300 plants. It is of course open to the public for use. We're going to need it in order to make all the healing items to prep for the second stage of the story.

Speaking of which, reminder to all that we need to harvest a LOT of horsetail!

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I've been reading up on the archives and, as I should have expected, the Eidolon would change its attack pattern based on whether or not someone was in melee range. Even in the plate armor, I still had run out of melee to heal 3 or 4 times during the fight. Hypothetically there could have been 0 damage to all the archers on the walls if the frontline crew kept him occupied in melee without interruption.

I'm not going to spoil myself on the next story area, but something similar may happen. The frontline crew should be ready to tag team people in and out of the frontlines to tank and heal.

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Also, just because I claimed the meteoric plate armor the first time doesn't mean I have dibs on it for all time. If someone else wants to be the frontiest of frontline warriors next time, they can!

wary vapor
steel crater
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We probably have indeed harvested all the horsetail near origin, like a swarm of locusts.

When I was preparing for the trip to the archives I went north and found horsetail about 500-1000 blocks north of your place, Bentham. That place was yet untouched... until I came along and harvested six stacks or so to put in origin cave.

I also made a (non-road) ramp down from the plateau almost directly north of your house.

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Horsetail can also apparantly randomly grow on tilled soil, because it's grown on my farm when I left it barren for a bit

wispy swift
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Ah. I was just about to ask if horsetail grows back. I had picked just shy of 500 during the preparation stream in the forested area SE of Origin (across the lake). I definitely didn't pick all of it, but you'd likely need to continue looking further out. I have come across large patches in the forested areas on my trips between Origin and Lab and can start marking down the general areas for future harvesting.

heavy condor
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There's plenty to the east of origin as well

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I've found most of my singleplayer horsetail in or near Pine forests

heavy condor
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But also i have seen a lot of horsetail when I went logging down by way station Albert

dawn moss
wary vapor
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I'm very intrigued about what comes next, i'd already been spoiled on the first location cause references to it are all over the wiki, and VS is a game where you need the wiki to play it ๐Ÿ˜†

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But it looks like the subsequent story stuff hasn;t been in the game long enough to be added to the wiki

south cypress
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i did not know there was more to the story than the archives

long comet
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It was only recently added to be fair

south cypress
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ah

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i assume we are preparing for it tomorrow but not yet going?

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as i assume peeps need to repair their armour and stuff

south cypress
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i am starting to think i live in unstable area

blissful cipher
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Jury's out on whether we go or not, at the end of the last stream, I suggested that as the biggest part to the 'preperation' was making armour and weapons, and now that we have those, we can simply repair them for a fraction of the cost, the need to prepare for the next stage is /way/ easier, however the trip is potentially much further away. So at least the first part of the stream will be catching up on work we need to do about the settlements; taking care of farms, animals, etc. Cooking, making healing items, that sort of stuff; but by the second part of the stream, we may well head out for more Story Stuff (tm)

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But, that was all said, along with the caviat that /if/ we do it, the next stream or two after will be pure base maintenance and building, with no stress to prep for another story expedition. Winter is coming, etc. Need to take care of the fields.

south cypress
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i hope there is copper and tin for me to make the repair material

long comet
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The armour brought to archives was mostly iron, right?

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so it shouldn't be all that hard to repair

south cypress
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i was using tin bronze

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am*

long comet
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I will probably be smithing armour once again. Having another set of plate and more iron chain for people would be great for the next location

south cypress
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i just checked how to make sturdy leather backpack but seems like you need to do quite the steps to make some

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which i assume we do not have the material to make

long comet
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It's chromium which I think we lack

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beeswax and saltpeter we have

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I think somebody mentioned striking sulphur

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but sulphur would probalby we reserved for poultice for the time being

south cypress
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was about to ask about sulphur but i did not know how the spell it

long comet
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The good thing about it is that once we have the materials for it it's much quicker to make than regular leather

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as the only time consuming process is soaking of hides

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the rest is just boiling

south cypress
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just in a lime water scrape it then into the chromium sulfate in a cooking pot

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and then the wax treament

odd oracle
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chromium was found around labrador right? just missing a steel pick

lusty otter
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If chromium is a thing, is there chrome steel?

steel ore
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I believe stainless steel is the next planned tier, but it isnโ€™t implemented yet

rotund dragon
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makes sense with nickel and chromium

heavy condor
long comet
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Yeah it is

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If we have that we could start making sturdy leather

heavy condor
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Then yeah found a spot up near Origin and AFAIK someone went to mine it

long comet
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it's also used as a mordant for cloth dyeing so the tailors will be happy to have it

heavy condor
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Dunno if they reached it or was still digging in search of it

long comet
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one thing to keep in mind is that it's better to pulverize chunks and not nuggets

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because you lose some probability of getting the output

wary vapor
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We're gonna need tons of the stuff

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And the mass production of sturdy leather will be a very labour intensive process

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Seeing as all the new steps are done in a cooking pot

heavy condor
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I think im gonna put out a call next time we are on, for some help on a logging expedition or two, just so i have someone who can help carry logs back to origin

spring cradle
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Could put down a postbox and send a package. ๐Ÿ˜„

south cypress
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i want to make sure i was not having a bug or something but does harvesting crops you planted able to give more than 1 seed

errant surge
spring cradle
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I believe some folks did chase down dye + cassiterite enough to paint their leather.

errant surge
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leather you can just chuck in a dye vat, no mordant required there

south cypress
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dyed leather is only good for shields and horn mounts

errant surge
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books apparantly use the most color variety of dyed leather, the blackguard shield just uses gray

south cypress
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dapperling written books does sound appealing

wary vapor
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A crop you grow regularly will cause you to slowly accumulate more seeds

south cypress
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until someone make Aavak X (a persion here) fanfic XD

south cypress
spring cradle
errant surge
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did see someone on the expedition stream with a fortune teller scarf which takes a small amount of red cloth to make, doubt any of the clothing sets would have been made considering how much flax would have gone to windmill sails

south cypress
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this is why i wish wool was a thing to add to the fiber thing

hexed bane
hexed bane
hexed bane
wary vapor
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The tannery is full of barrels of dye

spring cradle
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The mordanting barrel was more the clue.

hexed bane
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Dye is used for other stuff besides cloth, like daub

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Only brown and woad blue dyes can be used without mordant on cloth

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And I remember seeing black and purple gambesons

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Or maybe it was pink

spring cradle
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In any case, people dyeing their gambesons is neat and cool if there's resources for it. Gambesons are also a pretty great travel armor.

lunar lion
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I like my white gambeson, I will blend in the snow

hexed bane
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There are 2 types of white actually, the regular white and the extra white which requires borax ๐Ÿ˜„

lunar lion
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I shall acquire this extra white eventually

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When(if) we have more flax XD

hexed bane
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It has nice golden details

lunar lion
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Neat

hexed bane
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I would also like a gambeson, but I am flaxless

lunar lion
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I used my last bit of flax for 2 gliders, one for me and one for tnoini

long comet
lunar lion
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And i rather throw any extra flax I find for people to have gliders before extra armors XD

wary vapor
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If we're making gambeson we should always make sure to have a tailor make tailored gambeson rather than standard gambeson

lunar lion
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Oh yeah, mine is tailored, and I let the tailor repair it too

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Because apparently they get a bonus to it

long comet
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It's not the bonus it's the ability to do so at all

lunar lion
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The repair I meant

long comet
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It's the case with the repair too

lunar lion
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I know only they can make it, but anyone can repair afaik? Just tailors are better at it?

wary vapor
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Yeah anyone can repair

lunar lion
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Well either way, I like letting that to the tailors ^^

wary vapor
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It says they have "mending: +10 armour durability" so i don't know if that means they repair 10% extra or armour they wear has 10% extra... But they can also make the sewing kit, which repairs way more per flax than twine or linen

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But a non-tailor could use a sewing kit to repair clothes

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or indeed twine or linen, but they shouldn't if they're in a server with a tailor

lunar lion
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Mhmm

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It's more fun that way anyway imo

wary vapor
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Oh definitely

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The market could have a clothing repair stall...

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You pop your clothes in a chest, put your name on the sign, come back later to find them repaired and ready to go!

lunar lion
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That would be very cool ๐Ÿ˜„

lethal canopy
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I'll probably be on most of the weekend and will be up for collecting/mining/building missions if anyone needs the help. I don't have any plans of my own on what to do and I love just helping out where I'm needed.

spring cradle
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How are we doing for iron for the steelmakers?

long comet
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Iron is fine, it's time that holds us back

spring cradle
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So we have a steady supply from somewhere?

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Thinking more long-term, not next mission prep.

long comet
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Iron has been going steady so far

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We had a full crate of iron nuggets at some point

spring cradle
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I went through, uh, at least two during prep. Also went on an iron run in the big hole near the inn and mined out a vein.

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I've seen people drop by with more iron though, I was just wondering if we had any ongoing mining operations.

long comet
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Well i guess a crate is only like 120 ingots or so

spring cradle
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Between armors, tools and active steelmaking we went through it at a fairly rapid clip.

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I did find the iron search zone north of town, but almost got myself lost in the tunnels there and din't dare go tunnel exploring for too long with no armor.

long comet
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Well I think one vein was found just below origin cave

hard meteor
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honestly if we can get allot of refactory brick materials we can expand steel producttion allot more as well, i got my steel cemenation furnace going now and can get a 2nd up pretty quick if we need it, im sure we can put several around the town windmill as well

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if we need steel caps for the pulveriser we can get that going really quickly, have we found a supply of chromium?

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my early goals for tomarrow are to get a pulveriser and quern going for my own base that should help take some of the load off the main town windmill as well, i wont be using it much so can let it be used by other people most of the time as long as the helve hammers are not running

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going forward though im personally going to be trying to avoid making tools with iron, will try to wait for steel to make for people, unless its the black guard weapons/shields, honestly we should be at the stage now to make steel tools for everyone and get a stock going pretty soon

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what steel tools do you think we need the most right now, just pickaxes? or should i split between picks, shovels and axes

steel crater
heavy condor
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an axe wouldn't go amiss for me (Not needed needed just if there is spare Steel)

hard meteor
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so picks will be priority, then will fill axes and shovels after theres a surplus of picks

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and picks ideally for people that will be hunting chromite and titanim first, if anyone plans to mine that and needs a steel pick, let me know and il get u filled asap

steel crater
hard meteor
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if we can actually get chromite going that will be huge

steel crater
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what's the sea level height of our dapper dell world?

long comet
wicked locust
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is it the same as the lake or not?

long comet
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You can confirm it by going next to a large lake and seeing the water level, yes

steel crater
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The wiki is telling me Chromite can spawn in ore veins with a radius of 5 plus or minus 10.... i hope that's a typo

hard meteor
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those deposits will be tiny i imagin if we find them, if its anything like titanium

lethal canopy
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Is there a particular area it spawns in, or can it be anywhere? (I was trying to find information about it but couldn't find anything)

steel crater
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Chromite spawns between y=0 and y=44 in igneous rocks

lethal canopy
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ah, thanks

steel crater
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Here's my plan for finding Chromite:

Dig a shaft down to y=39, then dig tunnels in a square grid with 18 blocks between each vertex. At each vertex, node prospect the tile on the ground one block to the north, then start digging a vertical shaft downward. Continue prospecting as you descend, 12 blocks between each prospect, always to the north to be consistent.

This assumes that the minimum radius of a chromite deposit is 5 blocks; that determines the size of the square grid at y=38, since that would mean we don't have to have prospecting coverage over 100% of the blocks.

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I used a similar method to find iron ore, with some of the numbers changed because iron spawns bigger and can be higher

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The spot I mentioned above has just a 'decent' rating for Chromite. Obviously if anyone knows a spot with a better reading that'd be great

wary vapor
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We'll also need industrial scale charcoaling of course

spring cradle
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Or industrial scale cokeries, but that seems far far more effort than worth.

hard meteor
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at least we have tons of brown coal around so we can use that for most of the coal needed to make steel

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only the coal inside the coffin needs to be charcoal

spring cradle
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Indeed, but if you are making large masses of steel you do also need a bit of charcoal or coke.

hard meteor
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true, but not very much, very easy to maintain as long as we do some woodcutting

spring cradle
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Of which charcoal is the easier to get, yeah. I have made one cokery and run it on and off for a year and have... maybe 8 stacks of coke?

long comet
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It really isn't all that much it ends up being 2 high quality coal per steel ingot

hard meteor
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^

spring cradle
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Well then, so my stuff should last for a bit.

long comet
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The main use of coke ovens i found is to fire bloomeries

hard meteor
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just dont waste the charcoal on stuff that we can use brown coal for, as long as we have a good stock of brown coal

wary vapor
heavy condor
wary vapor
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Coke is just when you need that extra 40C for smelting nickel

hard meteor
#

ya we definitly need a solidd supply of wood

spring cradle
hard meteor
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u say that but it takes 160 brown coal per 16 steel ingots

spring cradle
#

At least in my single player game. I dug down under my house and found a giant vein, and there are like eight others nearby.

hard meteor
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we can go through it pretty quick

heavy condor
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The 5X5X3 pit I've got emptied my log supplies

wary vapor
heavy condor
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Well before I did a trip for redwoods

long comet
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I mean large scale pottery firing benefits from coke as it's faster

hard meteor
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its such a shame redwood sapplings are so rare

spring cradle
hard meteor
#

does it really matter if its much faster tho, we not time constrained on the beehive kiln

heavy condor
hard meteor
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if it takes afew hours longer thats fine

spring cradle
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Agreed it is not the biggest worry.

hard meteor
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andd we could easily do 2 beehive kilns if we really need, those are pretty cheap to make

spring cradle
#

Nickel is not something I have explored so far, but I reckon I will get there eventually so having a stock of coke seems good anyway.

heavy condor
#

Doesn't Nickel not have a use currently?

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Or was that some other metal in the game?

wary vapor
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Cupronickel, some high tech items use it

spring cradle
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Cupronickel alloy for weird sci fi tech stuff.

hard meteor
#

cupronickel is used in afew recipies

heavy condor
#

Ah

hard meteor
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endgame stuff

heavy condor
#

But yeah I've got space set up for a 5X5X5 charcoal pit, with room to expand it to the max size, only problem is Keeping the wood stocks up to keep it going

hard meteor
#

but ya making coke for burning in stuff like steal making is really not worth it unless we really struggling with charcoal, the conversion turning brown coal or black coal to coke is pretty bad

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thats allot of wood to fill a 5x5x5 o.o

heavy condor
heavy condor
hard meteor
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i typically keep my pits smaller but dont think it really matters

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my favourite size is a 3x4x3 mostly because it doesnt take too long to fill and i can run several steel furnaces awhile with that

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if u want i can work to build you some kiln doors for your firepits if u want more permanent setups with doors, not sure how u do ur pits

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rather proud of my little charcoal pits with kiln doors and windows tho :3

wary vapor
#

I have a little 3x3x2 in my singleplayer, I keep it running most of the time and it's more than enough to run my steel furnace 24/7 and fuel all my smelting and casting

hard meteor
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ya my 3x4x3 is enough to keep all the coal i need and i run several steel furnaces, but i substitute brown coal where i can

heavy condor
wary vapor
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I like my tiny one cause it's super easy to run cause my inventory can easily hold all the firewood it needs at once, and if I need to set it running it only takes a short logging trip to get enough to set it running

hard meteor
#

my basic pit, ignore the not same material winddow, was slowly changing material out

heavy condor
#

True for singleplayer you don't need much

wary vapor
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Of course we need way more production, but maybe several small pits is easier to manage than one giant pit

hard meteor
heavy condor
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I'll keep the big pit as a side project, and set up multiple smaller ones

long comet
#

As it stand at the moment it's bloomeries that take the most charcoal

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Accounting for bloomeries it costs 1.5 charcoal per steel ingot

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As it takes 2/3 of that is from processing iron

heavy condor
#

Yeah, will def need help keeping the Lumberyard stocked

wary vapor
#

After pickaxes and maybe falxes, a good use for steel may be axes, shears and shovels for cutting wood, harvesting leaves to keep up the seed supply, and shovelling charcoal

hard meteor
#

not sure its worth making falxes with steel, can just make the blackguard swords instead

heavy condor
#

Shears are fine being made of the cheaper materials

wary vapor
#

been plying my singleplayer all week where I picked hunter

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Yes, blackguard swords all the way

hard meteor
#

how important are steel shovels for the road team

heavy condor
wispy swift
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Did anyone who stayed behind in Lab last session get around to shoveling out the charcoal pit I got started before I headed up to Origin with the group? If that hasn't been used up yet down there, they'll be stocked for a bit, and if needed, I could see about bringing a bit up North.

wary vapor
heavy condor
heavy condor
hard meteor
#

durability hits can be weird on tools that can hit several blocks at once as well

long comet
#

They still use up as much as there were blocks don't they?

hard meteor
#

hit and miss there

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i have seen my scryyhe lose 1 durability hitting 3 blocks, or 5 ddurability hitting 6

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im not sure the logic behind it

long comet
#

Oh, so shears unlike axes can be weird

heavy condor
wary vapor
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by the way, I don't know about other trees but i've found that pines can be grown with 0 spacing between them. I ended up growing basically an 8x8x8 cube of pine, which then counts as one tree for the purposes of chopping down ๐Ÿ˜†

hard meteor
#

oh thats cool, i guess u wouldd get less leaf tho with that

long comet
#

That's true for all trees as far as i know

hard meteor
#

do the trees grow bigger this way?

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more leaves

long comet
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But the leaves get displaced

wary vapor
#

Yeah less leaves is the downside

hard meteor
#

now.. can u grow a tree ontop of a tree

long comet
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If the tree is dirty enough

hard meteor
#

must create a 24x24 triple stacked redwood super tree now

heavy condor
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And thats why im spacing my trees, speaking of, will need a new shovel soon on the server, so I can continue setting up roads/paths between the trees in the lumberyard

long comet
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If getting seeds is a priority that is inadvisable

hard meteor
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can also grow trees under ground, wonder if having a setup to easily collect the leaves as they grow, kindad factory floor for trees wouldd work

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so catwalks and the like

long comet
#

A similar thing is true of orchards, fruit trees will grow even if cramped but you'll have less leaf blocks from which fruits can be harvested. Not to mention harvesting is a pain because you can't harvest them without being in the leaves themselves

heavy condor
#

I can't wait till tomorrow now

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I've got PLANS

wary vapor
#

Same

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Tomorrow i'll definitely be able to open the market hall for the first vendors

heavy condor
#

I will supply crates for any who need em (Wood type limited till I do a Lumber run)

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Apparently Taller Charcoal Pits are better then wide

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So gonna split my Charcoal pit into a pair of 3X3X5 pits

hard meteor
#

dont think it matters at all, its between 4-7 charcoal per 32 firewood, so make it as big or small as u care to fill

heavy condor
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Will do a test tomorrow, one taller, one wider but using the same amount of firewood for both (multiple times)

hard meteor
#

keep in mind there is a variable between 4-7, but from all the reading i didd awhile back it seems to make 0 ddifference, but let me know if it does

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never directly tested myself

heavy condor
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I Did ask on the official discord what's the optimal way to do charcoal pots, it could be the taller reasoning was because wider has the charcoal fall and possibly lose that bit of charcoal

hard meteor
#

does any get lost when it collapses? i thought it just moves down, i guess its how ever is easier for you to harvest, what ever design you prefer

wary vapor
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No loss from it falling

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Unless maybe if you have a door leading into the pit and the charcoal collapses into the tile the door occupies, I feel like one time that happened with mine and the charcoal just vanished but i'm not sure

heavy condor
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I've definitely had charcoal vanish, admittedly this was on the server so de sync issues might've caused it

wary vapor
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I had a fun moment last saturday when I tried to shift-click a piece of chert rock into a chest and it simply vanished, then a couple minutes later I was moving things into another chest and suddenly the piece of chert rock was on my cursor, getting in the way of me moving stuff around ๐Ÿ˜†

wispy swift
#

If the charcoal hasn't been collected yet down in Lab, the communal charcoal pit there is 4x4x7, so we may be able to check with that as well.

wicked locust
#

hey can you chisel into a living tree without choping it down?

heavy condor
#

Maybe? I know you can chisel ricks to easily get them for chisel projects (just be aware you can't change orientation of logs if adding them to the chisel project)

wicked locust
#

... tree house?

wispy swift
#

I just checked in my singleplayer, and yes. You can chisel into living trees.

inner badger
#

whose ready for saturdaaaaay~

blissful cipher
#

Here's a 30 minute heads up, just waiting on Shelab being done with her shower then I'll spool up the server :)

south cypress
#

good thing i checked here

graceful onyx
#

My journey home can continue, and then... C H E E S E

south cypress
#

i logged out in one of the waystations so i need to go to my home to put the loot from the last week to my locked chest

graceful onyx
#

How many peeps stayed behind at Lab Mountain, if any?

south cypress
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i think the waystation i logged off was the nearest to the archives

graceful onyx
#

I was about 9k south, so I got about 4k to go, Rath was going a different route and he might be closer back then me, we were trying to compare if the teleport is faster or the path to get to and from villages

rotund dragon
#

Funeral bell is very fittingly named ๐Ÿ’€

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How long will the server be up?

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I might join

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Any preference for a class?

graceful onyx
#

I dont think there is any particular need for a specific class at this point

rotund dragon
#

Nice

inner badger
#

I'd honestly say hunters and Malefactors are amazing to have XD we have so many blackguard

rotund dragon
#

Ah

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I was originally thinking of going with tailor
But those classes seem interesting as well

inner badger
#

absolutely, go for whatever you like personally <3

#

end of the day its whatcha like best that matters

rotund dragon
#

I don't have much of a preference ๐Ÿ˜…

blissful cipher
#

Brewing a cuppa, and getting ready to start the stream, will be up in the next few minutes!

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Go grab your favourite seat in the stream before someone else gets it!

blissful cipher
#

Password: L3tsE4tGr4ndma

rotund dragon
#

Not much to eat ๐Ÿ˜•

spring cradle
#

Plenty of pies in the community kitchen.

rotund dragon
spring cradle
#

Ah.

rotund dragon
#

both of mine have been dead for 20+ years

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gotta update first ๐Ÿ˜…

ashen musk
heavy condor
rotund dragon
#

uh

wicked locust
rotund dragon
steel crater
#

PSA: whoever picked up the meteoric plate pants, please return them to the armory

spring cradle
#

Anyone looking for gears - there's a bunch of stuff we have or can get that the survival trader wants, at 200, 136, -404.

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And 5 day deadline on it.

long comet
#

We should be able to sell some gems too

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to artisan and luxury traders

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they fetch a good price

spring cradle
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8 stack spelt bread, want 6, sells for 1g
1 Tin ingot, w5, 2g
32 feathers, w2, 1g
Copper lantern, w2, 4g
Bismuth bronze lantern, w2, 9g
Black bronze lantern, w2, 7g
Blacksmith apron, w1, 2g
8 stack flax bread, w5, 1g
Tin bronze lantern, w2, 7g
Steel ingot, w3, 4g (not worth)
Sewing kit, w3, 1g (not worth imo)
8 stack Rye bread, w5, 1g

wicked locust
heavy condor
austere furnace
#

There is now a basement under the mill at Lab mountain that with a bit more work will hopefully become a full larger smithy right with the helve hammers

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but i go to sleep now and hope i catch most the second stream

heavy condor
#

Kalisa this is what i was meaning last week by Rounded Counter for the sink

hexed bane
#

Did you have a pit kiln with grass around it, or are you perhaps the first victim of the lightning fires?

hard meteor
mellow gull
#

Beautiful vista on my way to Origin Cave, 5 min before the temporal storm hit

lunar lion
#

ding fucking dong

rotund dragon
#

much better

lunar lion
#

Sorry, did you think there were only 2?

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nonono, 3 bells, take it or leave it

south cypress
#

i crashed ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

hard meteor
#

not a bad mining run so far, where should i be dropping this nicke off, or i can just make it into Cupronickel

rotund dragon
lyric dew
#

Iโ€™m still trapped at work, how are things going so far?

heavy condor
#

Translocator right at the surface

lyric dew
#

Ooo those are always fun

wicked locust
south cypress
#

welp

rotund dragon
# wicked locust

you know that Baron von Munchausen story about the horse and theclock tower?

hard meteor
#

curse these crashes

wary vapor
#

A friend hiding out in the little castle turret structure attached to the tannery

wary vapor
hard meteor
#

bentham my molds should be covered, are they not with the roof?

hard meteor
#

oh missed a corner, crap

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can u put a temp block there?

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should be some cobble in my basement somewhere

wary vapor
#

They cooled safely, but yesh i'll shove some dirt there

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or cobble

#

Love that rainbow

lunar lion
#

beautiful

steel crater
#

Thanks to Niko we now have another translocator up. Here is it's position relative to Bentham's place north of town.

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I did some infrastructure work and it can be approached from the south using the new ramp in the side of the mountain

wary vapor
#

Ooh, should be easy to connect to the road network

steel crater
#

The translocator sends you about 7000 blocks NW, into the wilderness. I did some work on the other side as well and there's a ramp up to the surface

heavy condor
#

Near some trees?

steel crater
#

it's fresh new area for the locusts to exploit Dapperlings to explore

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standard temperate area

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I prospected around and there's nothing interesting in the immediate area

heavy condor
#

oooooo

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sandstone

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Larch Trees Aquired

rotund dragon
#

Sandstone is nice

hexed bane
#

Does anyone have the coords for the TL to limestone aarea?

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I need limestone for building, also would just be nice to have this info so everyone can go get some

wary vapor
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It's on the road between B and C

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There's a section of road that splits off, I signposted it

hexed bane
#

Is it the one we found early, or another one?

wary vapor
#

It's the limestone source I know

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We got it from somewhere before then, but I kept asking and nobody would say where as our lime supplies dwindled to nothing, then I stumbled on the limestone desert and got to quarrying

hexed bane
#

Yeah I also keep asking people and get ignored

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You know, I think I remember that it was north, not south of the spawn

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So it's not the one we found early

heavy condor
#

I don't think anyone has the exact coordinates rn,

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But i can take you to the translocator after im done mining the chrcoal

hexed bane
#

Did we completely lose a fixed TL? No oned saved a waypoint or anything?

hexed bane
heavy condor
#

350, 1, 3630 Its right on the path heading to labrador

hexed bane
#

That's not the one then, that one was north of spawn I think

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We died there a few times

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I guess we really did lose it then

spring cradle
#

Aitch, got disconnected.

graceful onyx
#

ruh roh

south cypress
#

my whole game crashed

steel ore
#

no crash here but disconnected

south cypress
#

i was just watching a racoon strugel in water

mellow gull
#

Another transolcator found south of Labrador Mountain (360, 15770)

heavy condor
#

My Death led to an absolutely massive Clay Deposit

south cypress
#

man how long until Aavak starts the stream again :/

heavy condor
#

MAssive Clay Vein

hexed bane
#

I found the limestone TL:

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If anyone wants to build a road there, that would be nice for getting lime fasster

brittle ravine
#

hoi

blissful cipher
brittle ravine
#

๐Ÿ‘‹

lethal canopy
#

That was my view as I reached the first expedition shelter after doing a death run, All ghosts and all pointing the same way..

frigid matrix
#

see what i mean? pitch black in that chunk

spring cradle
#

I see it as well.

unique steeple
#

talk about a lightning bug

wicked locust
unique steeple
#

@cold berry said Come back here, you eldritch monster that tried to kill from ranged while I was trapped in blocks.

cold berry
mellow gull
#

Praise be!

#

Our Dave great!

frigid matrix
spring cradle
mellow gull
#

Snowak

#

Or Snoowak?

knotty helm
#

snaavak ๐Ÿ˜„

lyric dew
#

absolutely covered

lunar lion
#

Nice statue

vocal holly
# spring cradle

ironically i fail to see the bug ๐Ÿ˜‚ i can only see a void

steel crater
#

Me trying to decide what to do next Saturday

heavy condor
#

Do both, make Chiseled works that will help with the rusty gear farming

long comet
#

We should have about a 100 gears in gems to sell, but due to me mostly staying in Thousand Spears and smithing I have no ideas where luxury and artisan traders are that could buy them

wary vapor
#

The fastest method for getting gears might be fighting the endless hordes in Kalisa's basement

long comet
#

I do however have a building materials trader marked and they can be sold glass bought from other traders at a profit

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Gems are fast too depending on quality and price fluctuations they're 5-15 gears a piece

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Or so

wispy swift
#

I'm quite sure there is at least one artisan trader by the road North of Lab a bit, and fairly sure there is another along the way on my main route between the roads right now. I'll check my pins and confirm next time.

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Also, while I'm thinking of it, the elk can be equipped with two cookpots on either side of the neck freeing up some inventory space. I know a bunch of pots and crocks were fired at the end of last stream, but would it make sense to make up some more cookpots so it won't drain the towns if those are sent with the expedition? I'd be willing to work away at this in between runs.

long comet
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Elks are great for travel storage, they can be equipped with a lantern, pots, a hay bed and then comes the saddlebags which at most is 20 slots a I think

rotund dragon
hexed bane
rotund dragon
#

can we use the gems ourself?

hexed bane
#

No

rotund dragon
#

then it is just annoying

hexed bane
#

I honestly doubt we will be able to get everyone who wants to join an elk

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Maybe 2-3 people

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6 ingame days is almost 5 irl hours by the way

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So even if we sell 2 gems for 10 rg each every time, in one week we'll have enough for 2 elks at most by the end of the stream

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I don't know the rates for drops from high tier enemies, it might be faster

rotund dragon
#

is the bread trade thing still viable?

long comet
#

I mean we still have multiple types of gems so it's still worth checking the traders

rotund dragon
#

just need survival googs or treasure hunter tradersw

hexed bane
#

So it's alot of grain and not a lot of rgs for it, not sure how viable it is

rotund dragon
#

Hmmm

hexed bane
#

I'm willing to help with baking bread if we have spare grain

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We also need to coordinate so several people don't bake the same types and waste grain

south cypress
#

can i use a mod that is 1.20.7 when i am 1.20.9?

rotund dragon
#

Try it I guess ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

cold berry
#

Id like to request for a few people to help me clear out the lower level Iron vein that was found so we can use it as a drifter combat pit. The highly dangerous shivers that keep spawning drop upwards of 8 rusty gears.....at the cost of all of your armor durability and several lives currently because of their danger. Once the place is hollowed out I can setup blockades to prevent them from murdering people as easially.

south cypress
#

it's just a chicle mod because i it's getting tedious to chicle the windows for the build i am copying for a youtube vid

cold berry
#

Should allow the people interested in combat help everyone afford the elks needed as well as reduce the need to shovel 90% of our winter grain into the local traders

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@south cypress it SHOULD work fine since those versions are mainly just bugfixes and a few polishing changes. itd be different if it was something more major.

south cypress
#

i can't help as i have plans to finish my house and build a somewhat large greenhouse for bees in lab mountain

cold berry
#

Id recommend making a world backup as a precaution because anything can happen

#

Wait are bees not able to do bee stuff all the way down there?

south cypress
#

i do not know if bees can do bee stuff all year around

#

it is winter so can see if it's warm enough for the bees

#

otherwise i just make large maybe huge beefarm instead of somewhat large greenhouse for them

#

seems to me each month is about 9 days?

rotund dragon
#

do we have chest with tradables near the traders?

hexed bane
#

I don't think temperature at lab drops below 0 ever

south cypress
#

so a chance to make a huge beefarm just need a ton of flowers

rotund dragon
#

beef arm

south cypress
#

no cows in the game yet so no beef arms yet

wicked locust
#

Ah yes the fog it reminds me of home

#

Though it has risen a bit up from the ground by the time I got the pic

rotund dragon
#

who is that in the foreground?

wicked locust
#

Not sure

#

Might check on my way home from work

#

The god machine says this but idk. The statue is likely of Lin Zexu (1785-1850), a Chinese scholar and official during the Qing Dynasty, best known for his role in the events leading up to the First Opium War (1839-1842) between Britain and China. Lin Zexu was appointed as the Imperial Commissioner by the Daoguang Emperor to tackle the opium trade in Guangdong. He is celebrated as a national hero in China for his strong stance against the opium trade and his efforts to defend Chinese sovereignty.

rotund dragon
#

interesting

south cypress
#

wait 1.20.10 is out

long comet
#

No lighting changes sadly

wary vapor
#

Another update, another "Okay this time we REALLY fixed harvesting bowtorns and enemies spawning on the surface when temporal stability is off"

#

Every update since I started playing VS claims to fix those two things ๐Ÿ˜†

long comet
#

Do we know how many tweaks to bowtorn hitboxes for harvesting were made?

rotund dragon
#

"removed herobrine"

south cypress
#

^^

#

making a back up before trying to go to the world with the mod that is not for same version as the game is

rotund dragon
#

what mod?

south cypress
#

chiseltools

hexed bane