Starsector Adventures!

[round badger]

Especially if you can't risk full venting, but need to dissipate hard flux

[fleet glen]

hmm maybe having accelerated shields would make the ai better at shield flickering without taking damage or overloading

ill have to consider it more

[hearty shale]

to be fair, I haven't seen them drop shields in actual combat

only when shooting at a lone, overloaded target

but there's no reason to drop shields there, soo... weird 😅

[fleet glen]

yeah i sorta figured it was an "artifact" of the simulated fight, not something too likely in a real situation

[round badger]

Oh wait you weren't piloting?

[hearty shale]

nope

autopilot

[pallid dune]

HOPING THIS SYSTEM ALSO HAS A DECENT FARMING PLANET

[hearty shale]

since I have my own vessel, and I needed to test how the ai would fly it xD

ooooh

The forges of New Mars will burn bright :P

[pallid dune]

DAMN 😦

[round badger]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-wh40k-imperium-of-man-adeptus-mechanicus-mechanicus-gif-1633196030595994455

[pallid dune]

only two more planets here left and both are volcanic, not a single acre of farmland

[round badger]

The omnissiah will provide

[pallid dune]

yikes this system ahd like 5 volcanic planets, none of them under a +2 betwen the minerals

[serene viper]

How much hazard is that?

[pallid dune]

and a +1/+3 and a +2/+3

twofiddy

[serene viper]

Tha's painful...

[pallid dune]

the painful part tho, is not a single farming planet in the system

[serene viper]

250 is very high. I like to aim for a 200%

no atmo, extreme heat.

[pallid dune]

yeah this one is toxic atmo, so actually bad 😦

[pallid dune]

@serene viper

random legion... unless this is the story systme and i havenøt reached the story planet yet

[serene viper]

That's a normal legion.

Not the special one.

[serene viper]

As in, normal compared to the one I am thinking of.

[pallid dune]

ah

[fleet glen]

there's a special legion?

does that have to do with ||sentinel?||

[serene viper]

Yeeeeees.

That one.

:)

[fleet glen]

nice

[round badger]

Smh yall making me want to launch into the far systems

[hearty shale]

So, I went ahead and bothered Tri-Tach a bit, and it's going fairly well, I think >:D
Salvaged several auroras and furies off their raiders, actually, and can confidently say now what my fleet is absolutely up for punching above it's weight class now

They can grind battleships into dust - though too many numbers do still overwhelm them

Had an engagement where they killed an odyssey, and astral, an onslaught and a conquest, all deployed together 😅

Though it did take a while. Did have to retreat because they kept streaming in cruisers - but only because combat readiness was starting to go down, not due to losses 😅

that kind of performance is why I love high tech <3

they were also almost out of ammo though xD

[serene viper]

Oddy melts very fast. Astral is paper. The other two are bigger achievs

[hearty shale]

oh, yea, the odyssey does just melt once the shields are down

but it was poking from in between the others, so it actually went down last

those shields are stronk

can't wait to fly one myself :D

[serene viper]

Oh no an oddy flew in front of my shuntslaught and got absolutely obliterated by the TPC's

[hearty shale]

ooh, and it has a 180 shield arc, too

[serene viper]

Speaking of... the RANGE of those... SO GOOD!!!!

[hearty shale]

so I can use frontal shields with it

[serene viper]

nonononono

do not frontal convert an oddy lmao

[hearty shale]

the way I play them, and the AI plays them, I want those xD

[serene viper]

It's a broadsider tho...

[hearty shale]

reason being, immunity to getting flanked is really good

oh, those shields will never come down xD

for cruisers, I want it because the AI likes taking stray shots.

for me, I will be the only one with an odyssey, so I just like it

[serene viper]

That's gonna hurt ur manouvrability tho

[hearty shale]

the AI, I'd agree is probably letter with normal shields on that one

[hearty shale]

no..?

how?

[serene viper]

oddy with shields up becomes a BIG target

[hearty shale]

Mmm. Prooobably won't matter? I will see

[serene viper]

The shield makes u 3x as wide

[hearty shale]

definitely something to test before I s-mod it xD

ah, you mean getting through my own fleet

fair

also benefit for bullying cruisers

[serene viper]

Debries as well

[hearty shale]

debris doesn't really matter

super easy to push, especially with a capital

and it provides useful cover all the while

[serene viper]

More like ur obstructing allied lines of fire

[hearty shale]

Gives them breathing room, too

You have seen how I play auroras :P

[serene viper]

Aurora has the guns on the front

Oddy doesn't

[hearty shale]

ah, but that just means drive-by :P

and the ship would block lines of fire that way, too

Odyssey is more of a flanker :D

I will test fly it when I get it, and then decide :P

[serene viper]

Which means getting out flanked = skill issue 😛

Just flank more

[hearty shale]

So, I have a very loose definition of flanks :P

[serene viper]

[hearty shale]

If I have to push aside half their fleet to open up a flank, I will :P

My odyssey will be big, and she will manhandle enemy ships just like her smaller sisters

[serene viper]

I genuinely think frontal shield is just... a bad idea as it will make u way too easy to get shot thanks to how MASSIVE the oddy's shield has to be

[hearty shale]

I will see how it works out

definitely not going to s-mod that one right away

[serene viper]

As a capital u will be a larger target for AI than as an aurora.

[hearty shale]

It already is massive, anyway

and I was always drawing most of the fire 😅

[serene viper]

My shuntslaught would still beat u to a pulp. Storm needler go BRRRRRRRRRRRR

[pallid dune]

performed a S.T.E.A.L on a bricktus, and... not sure i even like this boat 😦

[serene viper]

She heavy, she slow but... SO MUCH DAKKA

[pallid dune]

spd 6

would take me down to 15, WITH a tug

[serene viper]

s-mod aug. drive field?

[pallid dune]

i mean mgiht be worth it on that one

the luddites are trying to steal one of my planets

and not sure if i can punch up hard enogh to deal with a 7 capital fleet

[serene viper]

Also definitely get eff. overhaul

[serene viper]

Use ur station

[pallid dune]

i did, for the first fleet of theirs

stations are both down

that's how i stole the first brick

that said... i mgiht reload back to lvl 4, before i settled a system... i found the hypershunt and one of the sleepers practically next to each other

[serene viper]

What lvl r u now?

[pallid dune]

9 i think

not in the game rn

levels are easy to get tbh

just get 1-2 capitals and go for bounties

2 capitals crapital everything you get in non story fleets

well not alone of course

but 2 of them and some cruisers

[serene viper]

OOOOOOO

Slight problem...

[fleet glen]

you have shuntslaughts right those dont even look like full ordos

blast em

[serene viper]

It hurt but we got through

[fleet glen]

nice

xivs are so cool and good

are they more dp than normal onslaughts?

[serene viper]

no

[fleet glen]

thats pretty nuts

[pallid dune]

they're jsut beefier

you trad ea bit of combat speed, for more armour iirc

[fleet glen]

yeah thats correct, more armour and a small bonus to flux stats

yummm numbers

damage to armour can also be put as damageToArmour = weaponDamage^2 / weapondamage + armour

this pretty much exactly shows how important single hit strength is, and how strong beams can be

[hearty shale]

lots of dead pirates xD

xD

[pallid dune]

so while math might not be the same, armor follows the same fundamental rules as in Path of Exile

[fleet glen]

havent played it but thats pretty cool

[serene viper]

For reference: that's the distance between the cryo sleeper and my first colony. System is far from ideal but it's the best I have

[pallid dune]

yeah, having found the hypershunt AND a sleeper in reasonable proximity to each other (and both jsut out of range of where i settled) i am real tempted to just let the luddites take over my current colony, and yeet my ass elsewhere

[serene viper]

Screw 'em, abandon it

[pallid dune]

or that, but i do need to scout the area around the two... honestly i don't feel iød lose much reloading back to pre colony times, then going where the derelict XIV legion is, grab that, then cruise the galatia stuff to get the fun other ship, and then do more scouting after galatia questing a bit more

[tired lake]

I'm trying to develop a deeper love and appreciation for low tech ships.

I started by loving high tech, then moved into favoring the midliners, never really paid much attention to low tech, but I'm trying to.

[serene viper]

EMBRACE THE BRICK

[pallid dune]

I personally prefer carriers, but carriers do not work well alone, so need tough ships too... a couple scary onslaughts do the trick tho

I think my ideal fleet would be 2:2:1 of onslaught:legion:astral

so far, not a fan of the bricktus

but maybe it can be fixed

[tired lake]

I love the onslaught.

Paragon is cool but onslaught is probably my favorite.

Such a simple beast.

And I have a soft spot for ships with built in weapons.

I've never tried piloting an Invictus but it seems pretty cool to try.

[hearty shale]

Woo!

I believe I will be s-modding forward shields, it really doesn't increase the size of the thing at all 😅

[round badger]

all power to beams!

[fleet glen]

i think im definitely iffy with frontal shields but ill be interested to see how it goes for you

with the beamer build i think you're likely to be fine

you've not much reason to "get in there"

you might suffer against high tech enemies who have both the dissipation and shields to weather the beams

love the gazers those are some of my favourite missiles

[pallid dune]

omg, WANT

[serene viper]

Dang, my discord like. Completely died

[hearty shale]

Yea. Had a full on stroke

[round badger]

are those the torpedos that hang out and fire beams?

[hearty shale]

so, turns out, my second dorito is in the same system as my tritac blacksite xD

and it's massive

[round badger]

Doritos

Blacksites?

What's not to love

[pallid dune]

that's not even remotely close toa contest, onslaught XIV if you don't have it already

[pallid dune]

what's dorito slang for?

[hearty shale]

a certain triangular thingy

[serene viper]

[SUPER REDACTED]

[round badger]

It's just aurora I bet

Or the p ones

Primarch, paragon, pistachio

[fleet glen]

primarch??

now im interested

[round badger]

Idr ship names man

[fleet glen]

though it better not be the boring blueberries

[round badger]

There's only room in my heart for the phoca

[round badger]

i see you nerds in there playing starsector

[fleet glen]

go join them!

[round badger]

The nets too shite at this hour

[round badger]

4 reaper launchers? Oof

I hate those on big ships

[serene viper]

For citrea

[fleet glen]

i approve

build in some mods though

[serene viper]

This is for a normal onslaught. A 14th will get s-mods

[fleet glen]

ahh

[round badger]

Yall stingy with story points or wot?

[hearty shale]

I'm not going to spend sp on a ship I fully intend to replace with the better one 😅

especially not one which is the only low tech ship allowed on the battlefield

[round badger]

Fair I suppose

It's not like I'm gonna replace my atlas ships

[fleet glen]

love all the little tidbits of lore that are convenient to read in the codex

makes sense that tri tach would pull something like this on drones that are designed to blow themselves up on enemy ships

though theyd do it without that too :p

even more fun talk about the terminator drones dating from before the ai war

[fleet glen]

this one shouldnt explode too much

[round badger]

So teeny

[fleet glen]

yet so stronk

maybe i should replace the burst pd with a second antimatter blaster

[pallid dune]

yeah, i do built ins on my logistics wing capitals, specifically, their "cargo" expansion, and surveying equipment built in

[hearty shale]

oh hey, I run that exact weapon loadout xD

the burst laser is nice to have

no real need for a second blaster imo

[fleet glen]

yeah the burst laser is a competent weapon itself

a second amb would be quite funny though

[round badger]

wait

how is there no fucking mass effect mods for this

[round badger]

also look at those juicy luxury goods

THIS is fucking cool

[fleet glen]

ahh i think thats an industrial evo one

it looks neat, havent tried to "tame" one

seems like loads of growths appear and you can choose to keep some and spend resources to purge others

hate how they clog up the intel though

[round badger]

id be tempted to settle there, if not for the fucking neutron star >.>

[fleet glen]

loool

it would be fun if there was a special interaction when you fly up to the star where you could make like giant shades to block the beams

[fleet glen]

realistic? not at all, but you could handwave it to some phase tech shenanigans. cool? absolutely

[round badger]

fun fact, i didnt capture it but the beam treats the black hole as agiant blocker

should i just get, you know

one more atlas?

as a treat

[fleet glen]

a truly prodigious amount of pirates. i accept

ill even wait for the chasing fleet to catch up so they can join the fun

(not without a cheeky quicksave ;p)

yummm 500% exp bonus

[round badger]

new flagship til i get something a lil bigger with the mounts i want

those orchard autocannons on the front are as juicy as their namesake

theres a really nice colony i found with 75 hazard and really good farming and organics

but im pretty sure its far enough away from the core to have an accessibility penalty

[fleet glen]

i may have bitten off more than i can chew

maybe the third go around ill get it

[fleet glen]

thanks ai you're doing great

you just enjoy yourself in the middle of all that

ill just sit here and watch while my finely crafted ships throw themselves into unwinnable situations

i havent even changed my fleet doctrine to aggressive this is a steady ship just being idiotic

[round badger]

does setting up a trust fund for students... do anything?

or is it just an excuse to spend credits you dont really need anymore 😛

[fleet glen]

ive heard its something you can do to skip the fetch quests and get to the main story

i put my money into weapons research after the story and it appears to do nada

probably will be fleshed out later

aaahhh damnit why do my omens have to get in the way of my tach lance

these pirate fights arent even worth the effort what am i doing here

[round badger]

ITS JUST TAUNTING ME

these things kick a serious amount of ass for the record

im tempted to buy this one but id have to store it, i dont have the weapons i want to mount

[fleet glen]

1 and a half hours later, the job is done. what a waste of time

frustrated at the ai for getting my ships more d mods as usual

my eradicator was just circling the station in the same direction it was rotating while not retreating and simply being blasted

[round badger]

who tf sells the medium annihilator pods?

[fleet glen]

heg, luddics, indies

[chilly lotus]

hmmm modded or standard vanilla starsector?

[round badger]

the heg havent had any hardly

ill have to go hit up the luddites i guess

[fleet glen]

me aurelia citrea and roadtrain are doing vanilla, goose is doing modded

[round badger]

only a couple tasteful mods

[fleet glen]

just enough to not know what anything is :p

[round badger]

the combat fleet has expanded

really tempted to buy a couple of these

so the buff is pretty strong

[chilly lotus]

they aren't great

too easy to flank and kill

[round badger]

you hush im an expert captain

[chilly lotus]

do you have UAF mod added?

[round badger]

if brute force isnt working, then you're not using enough of it

i have no idea what mods i have installed tbh, the only one i know for sure is tahlan shipworks

and expanded sector

[chilly lotus]

United Aurora Federation

[chilly lotus]

UAF have multiple brute force options for you to choose from. from Nuke Semibreve to a ramming super capital freighter and supercapital battleship and carriers

less single ship and more mobile space station XD

[round badger]

im just waiting for that perfect phoca to take out as flag

[chilly lotus]

the ships between the blue and purple line are all the size of Onslaughts and pegasus XD

and this is the older ship chart

the ship designs might have changed a bit

[round badger]

its delisted now, but im hoping someone will revive the old neutronium faction

they had a railgun ship too but it was likely better than the one i posted earlier

[round badger]

O.O

[round badger]

Oh shit.

[hearty shale]

Mostly vanilla, I do run Second in Command.

[hearty shale]

sooo, league blockade

is kinda doing... not much, really

the accessibility penalty is barely enough to scratch my market dominance xD

though I am slowly smashing them >:D

[chilly lotus]

tbf they are way out of thier.... League 😛

[hearty shale]

:P

The grand armada itself is a bit of a tough fight, because those ships are actually built pretty well - and the battle size limit means I can't bring all the things I'd like 😅

but they should still be doable

I do like that with a large enough fleet, ||you can just tell their investigators to fuck off - even during the blockade||

[round badger]

So

If I spend a lot of time in the deep dark, is that gonna be bad?

[hearty shale]

You got to sneak and use wool, or you'll attract a warden

wrong game

[chilly lotus]

if you want a challenge

install ironshell mod then raid Chiz for the pristine nanoforge

[serene viper]

Nope. Not ind.ivo. I forgot where it is from though

[serene viper]

They're from what we left behind.

... @round badger have u ever touched the magnetar.

[round badger]

If it was in a previous patch maybe

I'm setting up my colonies currently while I think about what I'm gonna need for an extended stay in deep hyper

[serene viper]

Depends. Have u seen what's there?

Your abyss is much, MUCH scarier than ours.

Because u have what we left behind.

[round badger]

I didn't like the looks of things so I transversed out

Is it like, decent loot overall in there tho? I was super low on supplies and fuel and I had no idea if a distress beacon could be answered out there so

[serene viper]

Don't think so... Wonder if what we left behind conflicts with all the other stuff out there now.

[serene viper]

@hearty shale I was wrong you can tell the hege to piss off as well

[hearty shale]

pfff xD

[serene viper]

Heard you liked bricks. BOY DO I HAVE BRICKS.

[hearty shale]

"I cast RoadTrain's Brick"

toss venture

repeatedly

[serene viper]

It's just. All ventures.

FINEEEEEE

[steep ice]

One day I'll do a pure low-tech build.

All gun, all the time.

Only gun.

Gun with engine.

But mostly gun.

[serene viper]

Might I suggest the invictus.

It's a brick. With only large ballistics.

And a couple of large missiles. But mostly large ballistic.

Oh my god if I wasn't in dire need of supplies I'd go take that...

[hearty shale]

'tis a brick!

[serene viper]

I WANT IT. BUT I CAN'T HAVE IT 😦

[hearty shale]

no brick for thee!

mwahaha!

[serene viper]

😦

😔

[hearty shale]

(Get bricked soon )

[serene viper]

Soon™️

For now: Time to turn my colony into a meat grinder. 17 fleets of persean bullshit is heading my way.

I'm adding the diktat to that list... soon.

[hearty shale]

quick question roadtrain

do you know the size class of a harbinger off the top of your head, by chance?

[serene viper]

destroyer

[hearty shale]

perfect, thanks

that means I can smod escort package and pair it with the capitals

[serene viper]

double brick...

[hearty shale]

am considering disarming it and stuffing all those OP into just letting it stay in the fight forever xD

don't need the DPS from a single destroyer - but the ability is invaluable

[serene viper]

Come. At. Me.

Ngl tho cryorevival facilities are so good.

Managed to completely speedrun my growth.

HELLO THERE

[pallid dune]

oh hey look what i found

[serene viper]

there...

[round badger]

yeah the abyss is totally new to me, there was just nothing out in those parts of the map before, nothing changed or anything

so im definitely gonna outfit fo a good exploration

ill be going D E E P

[serene viper]

At long last... the brick will be MINE.

Just got luddic path'd by the Diktat... they suicide rammed a capital into my onslaught...

[round badger]

not a terrible bit of salvage, got a pristine nanoforge from the actual fight

[serene viper]

What did you fight? ||THREAT||?

[round badger]

no

a domain probe

[serene viper]

A probe?!

No way.

Survey ship at least.

[round badger]

thats why i take so many of these salvage ships 😛

[serene viper]

THOSE DO NOT DROP COLONY ITEMS I REFUSE

[round badger]

could it be a mod effect?

also yall hyped the [redacted] ship up too much

im very disappointed in it

[fleet glen]

the salvage gantries hullmod specifically says it doesn't affect special drops like colony items

so unless the chance of getting rare items is a function of the amount of total salvage, theres no correlation

[fleet glen]

which one?

[round badger]

the old one

[fleet glen]

ohh

well maybe compared to your modded ships its not all that

but for me it's been easily the strongest ship i've ever used in vanilla

and it was most certainly absolutely bonkers before the nerf

[round badger]

its really not very good in the hands of the ai

cant make it dance without strings and i cant pilot the fucker so eh

[fleet glen]

have you ||slapped an alpha core in it?||

[round badger]

yes, i have

first thing i did and its still pretty meh

im gonna convert it to a big damage sink

[fleet glen]

i think the point of it is to be a nigh unbreakable bulldozer to pave the way for the rest of your fleet

so its hard to command and generally does what it wants yes, but if you give it an eliminate order itll go straight there

[round badger]

and it doesnt do that for me

mostly because the ai doesnt know how to manage flux like a seasoned, handsome captain

[fleet glen]

mmm you had me at handsome

but i think theres some nuance to it

its very overfluxed and thats sorta something you're forced to deal with so yes you might not be able to do all you want with it

[serene viper]

Jesus christ LOOK AT THE CREW REQUIREMENTS.

[round badger]

thats low tech for you

[fleet glen]

its default loadout is a great example of what its design really boils down to you

thats a rough d mod to get lol

[round badger]

and maybe i should have left it with the standard config

[serene viper]

No. That's 2 D-mods that increase minimum crew requirements.

[fleet glen]

oh 2 wow

[round badger]

but im doing more damage with vanilla ships outfitted to my specs

[serene viper]

Increased maintenance and faulty automated systems.

I'm not picking that one.

Especially when this one's available.

[round badger]

i think once i have fleets, im either gonna permanently mothball it, or set it to colony defense if thats possible now

[serene viper]

Anyway. I FINALLY HAVE MY BRICK. 😄

[fleet glen]

honestly pretty impressive that your fleet is able to outmatch 2 ||giga cryoblasters||

[serene viper]

Oh I nearly died.

One of the bricks actually RETREATED.

But yes. I HAS BRICK.

[round badger]

i mean

my flux rate on my flag is 50% higher than my dissipation rate

if i took off the expanded missile racks i could slap on some additional kinetics

which might actually ramp up the damage even quicker since i could put anti shield on instead

if i take the missiles off completely, i could probably hit 2x my dissipation rate and still be fine. in fact you've convinced me

i have to outperform this [redacted] even harder

[fleet glen]

in my defense

modded ship

[round badger]

i can solo a nibelung with this thing in the simulator

[fleet glen]

yeah that op thing

no wonder

[serene viper]

AH.

[round badger]

id really prefer a midline ship though

[serene viper]

There's a special one of these that was taken by legio, then RE-captured by hege and is very funny.

[round badger]

its just not as agile as i need

[serene viper]

But uhhh yeah that's basically "What if ||oldslaught|| but cruiser.

[fleet glen]

"what if we took the strongest weapons in the game that only the onslaught is allowed, put them on a cruiser, and gave it amazing mounts and firing angles, and accelerated feeders!"

[round badger]

it doesnt have accelerated feeders

it has a charge 😛

[serene viper]

... the legio one might.

XD

[fleet glen]

either way

modded just completely changes the equation

[round badger]

the phoca has accelerated feeders.

its all about choosing the moment and exploiting it

[serene viper]

Anyway. Tomorrow I'll be trying to build a brick.

But on the topic of Tahlan. One of my fave ships from that mod is the providence. Just a SOLID battlecruiser that carried me through most of the early/midgame game.

[round badger]

im tempted to get this thing

[round badger]

......ok

so i did what you suggested and gave it a kill order

all its fucking doing is kissing the station with its nose so nothing else can shoot at it >.>

[hearty shale]

perseans smashed

took down every detachment, then the supply fleet and then the armada itself 😅

[fleet glen]

yeah its great right

if that station was trying to get awway, it would have no chance

[hearty shale]

not really a blockade when they come to me one by one to get ground into space dust

[round badger]

-_-

im mothballing this hunk of junk lmao

[fleet glen]

whatevs

[serene viper]

Yeah about the same happened here. Then the church attacked. AND NOW I HAVE A BRICK.

[round badger]

it would easily be three times as good if it vented flux at all

but its not doing that, so its shit in an extended engagement

this is absolutely an ai issue because none of my other ships have that problem

[fleet glen]

well, thats kind of the point of the whole ship man. it has bad flux stats, and you have to design around that. modded ships are always gonna be better

in the context of vanilla with a build designed around that it is one of the strongest ships

but you are not in the same context

ehh im gonna retract that a bit

[round badger]

it has a better ratio than my current flag

[fleet glen]

im biased cause i think its a really cool ship and i think ive been letting that speak for me

[round badger]

what i mean is its not actively venting

at all! when my gryph, which is mostly missiles, IS

[fleet glen]

mhm

[round badger]

🤷 all of my other ships are way more efficient

for 1 supply a day i could have two things doing more damage

[fleet glen]

im sure you could

[round badger]

it just feels kind of cheap they dont let you pilot it

and make the ai for the ship so much worse than regular vanilla ships?

[serene viper]

Ahem. neural integrator

[round badger]

yeah im aware of it, but i dont like being forced into a choice

[hearty shale]

nice, ten % access for free and I managed to not quite go hostile with the perseans, it seems

so I can repair that rep if I want to

[round badger]

you can take em

[hearty shale]

oh, I probably could

but I don't want to

the luddites are the only ones I will actively grind into space dust

[round badger]

the amount of times they try to mess with us independent captains, im starting to think theyre just into that

[serene viper]

Just, a useful tip for everyone.

[fleet glen]

useful ish until you get invert polarity

[serene viper]

Anyway. Brick building time.

[pallid dune]

invert polarity "and now we're surfing on the slipstreams!"

gosh that stuff makes slipstream rides a lot more fun

[fleet glen]

probably one of my favourite additions to travel, before slipsurge it really was just bump into storms and wait to get there. slipstreams added a lot more "game" to travel

slipsurge is nice too but i dont use it often enough

[hearty shale]

sooooooo

apparently

distress calls can spawn mostly random wrecks sometimes?

[pallid dune]

want

okay i have an abyss related question: ||if my abyss fleet doens't spawn the fabricator after killing it, can i just relead to get them... also while at it where the heck to i put the fabricators?||

[serene viper]

UPGRADES PEOPLE, UPGRADES!

[fleet glen]

yeah ive had this loooads, just wrecks next to jump points

[serene viper]

No clue. Haven't actually beaten one of those yet.

[hearty shale]

yea, but usually it's a random freighter or something xD

not this

[fleet glen]

||theres a specific boss enemy i believe which you have to kill to get it||

[serene viper]

That's worth it to grab, few nasty d-mods though...

Faulty power grid, compromised hull AND shields...

[hearty shale]

oh, yea, definitely

and I can just fix it

[serene viper]

Yes pls.

[pallid dune]

wait you haven't??? ||i figured you would have beaten the one that spawns near the onslaught||

[serene viper]

OH that one I have but that one's an easy fight.

[pallid dune]

||yeah i did that the first time aorund and got 2, then this time i got none from the same enemy||

[fleet glen]

hum

[serene viper]

You just ||burn supplies on fixing up the oldslaught and stick an alpha into it||

[pallid dune]

||ahh so i have to put an alpha there to get the fabricators? don't have one yet, so that'll wait a bit longer||

[serene viper]

No, I meant for that fight. Ngl I think even without it, it'll work.

[pallid dune]

oh yes the ship does, i wans't asking about that

[serene viper]

Speaking of those abominations.

[pallid dune]

||was asking about the weird fabricators, whcih i got 2 of the first time around and none this time||

[serene viper]

... Wait I can't leave cause the fucking diktat's gonna satbomb me.

[fleet glen]

lol

[pallid dune]

||the ones that spawn fragments regularly, accoridng to their lore text at least||

[serene viper]

Y'know the annoying thing with crises I find is that I want to defend my system but doing so delays the crisis.

AH. Okay I now know what the locked skill entry in the skills tab is.

[pallid dune]

hmm?

[serene viper]

Hypercognition

[pallid dune]

@serene viper

[fleet glen]

D:

hope you have some ships you won't be too sad to scuttle

[pallid dune]

oh i just made it back with that

from my abyss trip

set out with 2k supplies

[fleet glen]

oh wow cutting it close :p

[pallid dune]

5 remaining when i hit harbor

[fleet glen]

i fairly often end up eating a frigate or two on the struggle back in some early exploration

[chilly lotus]

i cast... endless ad-venture

[serene viper]

Diktat destroyed

[serene viper]

Yo dawg I heard you liked alpha cores.

[fleet glen]

yayyy blueberries

[serene viper]

BRING IT

[serene viper]

OHMYGOSH IT'S SO CUUUUUUUUUUUTE

Oh look. Bounty hunter.

[serene viper]

... there's 3 fleets. They deployed all capitals. My people... didn't.

BRICK, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE GOOD.

[round badger]

That's one thing I noticed and really don't like

It's all lowtech capitals. Where tf did the midliners go?

[serene viper]

This is a hege inspection.

Sooooo...

Also I fucked up and accidentally ordered full retreat when my invictus died so I have to do it again (and hopefully, this time I DON'T die)

[serene viper]

Died again on the 2nd round BUT I WON THE BATTLE. Now... ROUND 2.

For when you REALLY hate shields.

[serene viper]

THEY'RE APPLYING THE CHICOMOZTOC TACTIC

3 rounds. 3 ROUNDS OF SLAUGHTER.

... and of course my invictus gets compromised hull... ouch...

[hearty shale]

... Really?

You thought that would be sufficient?

[serene viper]

Yeah no I got insulted by a similar fleet.

[serene viper]

This is gonna be a SLOG.

[serene viper]

That'll be my payment for trying to shut down my cores.

[pallid dune]

that looks like an AI rebellion waiting to happen.
I love it

[pallid dune]

truly a masterpieace worthy of a real Ork!

[hearty shale]

@serene viper still did the supply cache after all and...

another mantle bore xD

[serene viper]

Wait you DIDN'T TAKE THE ALPHA?!

Smhhhhh

[hearty shale]

I have several in my pocket right now

[serene viper]

But what if more

[hearty shale]

one more will not do that much 😅

and I would rather like to see what she does with it :P

[pallid dune]

meanwhile i am blueberry deficient

[hearty shale]

oh, I got most of them on this very expedition xD

[serene viper]

Sadly that quest has no continuation afaik

[hearty shale]

aww

ah, well

I don't regret the choice anyway :P

[serene viper]

Now u got red planet, abyssal oddity... and the big bakoom.

[hearty shale]

And then I toss it into a black hole :P

[pallid dune]

wai?

[hearty shale]

dynamite fishing

(not really, but saying anything would be spoilers, possibly 😅 )

[pallid dune]

i thought americans used guns for fishing... you know schools and all that

[hearty shale]

Ah, but I am German

we know fishing is done by ramming them with a submarine

[pallid dune]

hehehe

I'm danish, we just hurl axes at 'em

[round badger]

Awooga

[serene viper]

But uhhh yeah I love the invictus now. Can take down even an onslaught 14th. With effort. But it can.

[serene viper]

Time for a new run with 100% more mods

[round badger]

I told you how to enable the old mods anyway right

[hearty shale]

oh, dang, that red thing has some spicy bps :D

well, most of them I know, but the one I guess is guaranteed by story

third corrupted nanoforge go brr? 😅

[pallid dune]

going out on an expedition... i have a bit more than one smod expanded atlas worth of supplies 😄

[serene viper]

Did you do red planet? 😄

[serene viper]

I know how. Tri-OS will do it for me.

[serene viper]

Meanwhile my last fleet had 5 of those chonkers. 18k cargo capacity... 😌

[hearty shale]

yes

[fleet glen]

done already?

[serene viper]

Done everything I wanted.

and I've been itching to try out some new stuff

[fleet glen]

oo let me know if VIC is updated

[serene viper]

VIC..?

[fleet glen]

volkov industrial conglomerate

one of my favourite faction mods

they play like high tech +

[serene viper]

Yeah makes sense why I don't know them.

High tech's not my jam.

[fleet glen]

wow thats a lot of revenants citrea

[hearty shale]

hehe

yea

I run 5 revenants

because they mask my battleships xD

[round badger]

What version is vic

If it's not too old it may still function, tahlan does

[serene viper]

97a

There's an issue with new factions and ||threat|| not having relations set to hostile though

[fleet glen]

probably not a huge issue considering only the player goes to the abyss

would just concern things like taking a commission or using nex to play as a faction

[serene viper]

It's an issue when you're commissioned

[fleet glen]

yes

but thats also only half a problem since you wanna fight them for their goodies

so you just walk up to them instead of them walking up to you

[serene viper]

Issue if you're looking to fight them

[serene viper]

One more joins those who know

[fleet glen]

hm, did the knight errant quest, i had heard it was expanded and i think it was but not by much

perhaps thats the point of it though, im not the "chosen one" in that questline

[serene viper]

There's a follow up apparently

[fleet glen]

aw hell yeah spinny missile

[serene viper]

SPEEEEEEEEEEEN

[pallid dune]

missile go spinny!!! (have had this happen a few times too)

[fleet glen]

seriously...

get out of there you stupid destroyer

[pallid dune]

i hate so mcuh when my smallships get in the way of my beeg ships

[serene viper]

... why is there an enemy legion XIV

[fleet glen]

its more that my small ship jumped in the middle of all those giant enemy ships

[pallid dune]

i need a commander type for flanker

[serene viper]

Modded?

[pallid dune]

ahh, they do be doing that at times

[fleet glen]

not modded

[pallid dune]

also think there's an enemy onslaught there... not sure about the astral tho

[serene viper]

The legion blueprint is lost

Onslaught isn't

[fleet glen]

the paragon was mine

[pallid dune]

ah

[fleet glen]

despite it dying im still winning the fight

[pallid dune]

ah yeah not astral

donut

[serene viper]

Which fight

[fleet glen]

||its in the sentinel system||

i would have thought you'd know

[serene viper]

AHHHHH

[pallid dune]

i should consider going there

[serene viper]

I completely forgot

[fleet glen]

that was a costly battle

[serene viper]

Recover all?

[fleet glen]

i recovered all my ships, the capitals and two of the story point ones. the built in hullmods are really not great though, building in heavy armour really hurts for that agility loss

[serene viper]

Yeeee

[fleet glen]

maybe if i had some mods i could perfect it, but it may well end up in storage

[fleet glen]

wishful thinking there pathers

[fleet glen]

oops spoilers

[serene viper]

Didn't recognise it

[fleet glen]

damnit

the button press the button

e

[serene viper]

A

[fleet glen]

theres multiple different fancy ships in there

[serene viper]

Only 1 is recognisable

[fleet glen]

2

but yes what i was tryign to say was there should be a revamp of the storage view for colonies

this overview right now is barely more useful than not knowing

[serene viper]

Yeah no I can't see the other special ship lmao

[fleet glen]

||the zig and the oldslaught||

[serene viper]

Oh yeah no I'm blind lol

[fleet glen]

any thoughts on s mods for a carrier like the heron?

maybe escort package to help it keep up with the rest of the fleet?

seems like a decent bomber carrier

[tired lake]

I feel like they buffed the escort passage in a recent update. I don't remember it providing so many buffs.

[fleet glen]

id have to check the patch notes, but it's always been a very good option

really helps keep destroyers around late game

wow i just read that the shield damage reduction from s modding it is doubled on destroyers, so it turns from 10% to 20% less shield damage

i should put this on all my medusas

they're built for frontline but they often work with the cruisers in my fleet so ideally they should get it

hmm the doubling is only when nearby a capital, and the paragon is slooow

maybe if i get some more sunders thatll be good, though im afraid my beamer sunders will just throw themselves away needlessly closing distance

need cautious officers if i can afford

ooo i wonder if the omen's lightning system is affected by energy weapon mastery. +1 on the list of reasons why the omen is the best

[fleet glen]

checked 098 patch notes and nothing has changed from 097. this is what the wiki says

not sure what it was in 095

ah, id love some details about what its like crewing a phase ship, biological effects of long term phase exposure, those sorta details

maybe something alluding to ||the horrors||

[fleet glen]

wow combat endurance is really good, just read the elite bonus and thats 50% of your hull able to just regen?? thats a ridiculous amount of hull if you look at some of the tanky ships, and the flat 2000 makes it amazing on frigates and destroyers too

AND the base skill gives 15% CR and great bonuses to operating time

this is just like an always take skill

ahhh holosuite is so good, turning commerce from an already super great low effort +25% to a staggering +75% increase on all income

someone pointed out that this suite with one of those funky "ai but legally not ai" things in gives a higher bonus than, you know, an alpha core. an omnipotent and for all purposes alien intelligence is worse than a chatbot in a fancy room

hm, the planets menu doesnt have a "hypershunt in range" option

ah also i gotta go in the settings and buff the hypershunt range a bit, i find 10ly is just too little to be useful. 15ly means its actually a possibility to find a decent system or two within the range of one

maybe 12ly would be a more reasonable lesser buff that could realistically be considered by the devs

this world would be amazing to put a lamp in

reducing hazard by 100% by removing poor light and very cold

wow its even compatible with the mantle bore

if theres a planet in-system that's elligible for no atmosphere items that could easily be my production hub

sadly on the other side of the entire sector but thats a small price for the material riches this offers

thats +6 ore, +5 rare ore, +2 volatiles

i could even story point the mining

ohohoo

this would slightly increase the hazard of the world id need to grab the lamp from

this looks like one of those modded weapons that destroys both your enemy and your framerate. i love it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336727879853019187/1361063577447956550/BrainLightningShootTest2.gif?ex=67fd64bc&is=67fc133c&hm=931ecd9e6d50243e4c3773c87ed0fa534b3c7da389ee4c0403d7a0ecb28cf028&

[fleet glen]

these would be some funny values to edit

ah. i have reached the top of the settings and not found the hypershunt range modifier

[tired lake]

Holy crap I love the Retribution.

That Orion Device is sooo much fun.

[pallid dune]

look, attacking framerates is peak gaming, just ask PoE, where using microtransaction effets on your abilities, literally lowers your framerate on most machines (because higher polygon count on very effect intensive game = framerate death)

[tired lake]

Shortly after praising the Retribution, I got myself killed when orion device'ing myself into a terrible situation and my fleet getting obliterated by about 6 gremlins all armed with reaper torpedoes.

However, I am back to captaining another retribution (somewhat) more responsibly. I will not give up on this beautiful ship.

It's a wonderful little ship. Quite strange for a low tech capital, having so much mobility.

[fleet glen]

retribution gotta be one of my favourite ships to pilot

its like a low tech aurora

[serene viper]

More like low tech oddy

In terms of movement

[fleet glen]

yea thats what i meant

for a low tech ship its sorta funky

its got a lot of firepower but it cant go head on against any capital really

[tired lake]

Low Tech ships really make me learn to appreciate the less fanciful and flux-hungry weapons in the game, but also make me appreciate armor more.

Although for some reason I keep thinking "oh, a reaper? I'm sure my onslaught's armor can tank that..." no, no it cannot.

It's really satisfying watching a hailstorm of flechettes from a heavy needler just plink off my armor.

[fleet glen]

single high damage hits are the antithesis of armour

reapers are probably the single most destructive to armour thing in the game

4000 HE = 8000 damage in one hit to armour

[fleet glen]

i went on a whole thing about armour a little ago but this is written much better than i could explain

and this is the math

so lets say you have 4000 armour, the reduction is about 2/3, so the damage to armour is about 1300. thats still a huge amount of damage which then weakens it a lot to successive hits

or no not 1300, more like 2600

from one shot you basically strip half of the armour in that entire region

ill put this here just cause
https://starsector.fandom.com/wiki/Armor#Detailed_mechanics

[tired lake]

yeah I know that armor doesn't work that way but it's a reflex of me being overconfident in it :p

I tend to forget shields exist when I'm running low tech

When I get home I'm immediately jumping on starsector I think.

I found a really nice system, it has a Terran and Terran eccentric planet both orbiting a gas giant, which is sick.

They're not necessarily perfect planets (Haz Rating 125% on both I think) but having two terrans in the same system AND orbiting the same gas giant is crazy cool.

Sadly no ||coronal hypershunt or cryo ship nearby tho|| unfortunately

At least, not that I've discovered, and I've checked all the nearby ||giants and trinary/binary systems|| for a ||hypershunt||

I found three really cool star systems. One trinary system with a bunch of rings (I think it was a brown dwarf, a yellow sun and then a red giant or something), one binary star system of a neutron star and a red dwarf, and then a binary of a black hole and red dwarf or something.

I got really luck with terrans this run, honestly.

And I'm not even playing with any mods. Usually I play with the terraforming mods.

[tired lake]

Love finding little anomalies like this.

[serene viper]

So I started a new run. With more mods. Custom start, only 1 ship. But it's a CHONKY ship.

[round badger]

Which one is dat

[serene viper]

Newfoundland from ED. Basically, giant space train.

[round badger]

U mfer

It was in your name the whole time, train lover

Now you need to change it to spacetrain

[serene viper]

XD

[tired lake]

Heh.

All I can hear is "plink plink plink!"

[fleet glen]

those guys annoyed me to no end with some of my early game destroyer high tech fleets

my destroyers would just sit there and let them plink them and high tech is flimsy enough to die to those weapons

[tired lake]

I keep talking up the Retribution, but it's so satisfying against the little derelicts.

I just went against a bunch of derelicts and just orion drive'd into the little guys and killed them that way while my guns took care of the bigger ones.

[round badger]

idk the more i play, the more i feel midline is where its at - and that the game underfocuses on them

[serene viper]

So. Slight issue with my start: The stipend does not cover my crew costs.

[tired lake]

I do like the midline series a lot.

They have a lot of specialist ships which I enjoy.

And I like a lot of their systems + the ways their weapons are usually laid out.

Eagle, Hammerhead, Sunder, Champion, so many great ships.

[round badger]

eagles i hard disagree on mostly because of the same issue i have with the ai and the one redacted ship

[serene viper]

Ewww Sunder.

[round badger]

and theyre weirdly flimsy

i DO have an eagle in my fleet but its job is to sit back as artillery

[tired lake]

Midline ships are generally more flimsy than they look, because they don't spec heavily into shields or armor. That's one of the reasons I'm enjoying low tech more: they're very literal in their strengths (armor, hull) and weaknesses (maneuverability, flux)

[serene viper]

Falcon(P)

[tired lake]

Whereas midline, your strengths and weaknesses are more... ambiguous.

[serene viper]

We love Falcon(P)

[round badger]

part of the issue i think, is the total fleet limit

when you play like i do, a good third or more of your total fleet cap gets taken up by logistics and support ships, and once you get into the later game you either need MEAT or you need NUMBERS

and starsector imo does really poorly at the numbers game, at least where the player is concerned

its not so bad to lose ships if you have that one yellow skill, but with midliners i want battle groups yknow?

a capital with three cruisers to screen and a carrier with either strike corvettes and bombers or fighter/bomber, but thats almost impossible to hit outside of ideal circumstances

and i think they reduced the maximum battle dp size again?

[tired lake]

God my Dominators lean way too heavily on me for survivability. I need to review their loadouts.

If I'm not there to help them out, they get easily overwhelmed even in a 1v1 engagement.

With a ship of the same class, anyway.

Maybe not easily, but too easily.

[round badger]

so if they need more PD, assign them a minder

i find that you can vastly punch above your weight with good command groupings

[tired lake]

Sometimes when I assign a PD ship as an escort, it likes to put itself too far in front of what it's escorting.

That's been my issue recently.

Also, found a nice system.

It only has one habitable world, but it's an arid world with only 125% hazard rating (and a stellar shade).

And it has two volcanic planets with ultrarich metal and rare metal.

And a frozen world with plentiful volatiles and normal metal.

Oh, and a ||coronal hypershunt and inactive gate.||

Only downside of the arid world is that it has trace rare metals, which means I can't use soil nanites.

[serene viper]

@tired lake sounds like no planets without atmosphere for the catalytic core/synchrotron

[tired lake]

Good point, unless the one irradiated world I didn't scan has no atmosphere (which is possible, I suppose.)

One of those volcanic worlds has thin atmosphere, but alas, that's still too much.

[tired lake]

"Study some interesting local phenomenon."

I don't think they'd have time to study for more than a moment.

Proximity to a blue giant plus being constantly bombarded by a neutron star.

[fleet glen]

maybe when that station was first built they made some specialised shielding or magnetic field shenanigans to deal with the intense energies, but it fell into disrepair before or after the personnel were removed from the situation

just thought of a fun meme fleet, all fortress shields

maybe like 2 paragons and a bunch of monitors

i wonder how monitors do against ||the eyes||

i should see if i can get some exact numbers for the attack

[tired lake]

hmm

really not sure how to build the invictus

might need some built-in hull mods to really get this thing sorted

no combination of weapons feel like they make effective use of the lidar array, not even the autofits suggested by the game as their default kit

seems like the best pairing so far is 2 hephaestus autocannons and 2 autocannons

flux hungry af, but it makes good use of the rof bonus and shreds both shields and armor

if i really want to micromanage my guns i can be a bit more flux efficient, but it doesn't feel worth the hassle

[round badger]

its always worth the hassle

[tired lake]

well the issue i was having in the simulator is that the AI i was fighting really liked to toggle its shields, which if i'm only firing my hephaestus cannons, absorbs everything even when it's nearly overfluxxed

so i'd rather avoid that eventuality and fire the autocannons at the same time incase they try flicking the shields at me

besides, once the hephaestus' tear through the armor of whatever im shooting, the autocannons can do decent damage against it

i have degraded engines on this invictus as the only d-mod, and wow do i regret accepting that

i know this thing is a brick regardless, but it would be nice if my brick crawled just a little faster

okay nevermind, i was running the simulation at only 50% CR (because i was undercrewed) and without my MC as the officer of the invictus

with those two things fixed, i can totally shred even a paragon with minimal damage lmao

[pallid dune]

got any no atmo, high mineral planets there while at it? ideally superhot

[tired lake]

no planets with zero atmo. there is an irradiated world that i didnt survey yet but in my experience they always have an atmosphere.

big sadge honestly. would be perfect otherwise.

o wait

i was thinki9ng of the wrong system

lemme check

[round badger]

yeah idk, i dont mind making a far flung colony

im usually out on the very fringes anyway so

[tired lake]

there is a super hot no atmo ultrarich metal barren world in that system with the two terrans, ye

i need to start colonizing soon

my fleet is untenable on the commission i have with the luddic church alone

that 75k a month doesnt cover my crew costs when i run the invictus

well, crew + all my storage fees etc

[pallid dune]

my ideal system is
1 x very hot no atmo mining planet
2 x high food, no volatiles or transplutonics
1 x cryovolcanic, no atmo
Ant ruins on at least one, ideally two of them
Gas giant optional, but is nice to have

[round badger]

yeesh i almost never find a system that good

usually only end up with one planet colonized per system

[pallid dune]

hmm, wanna share the seed number?

gas +2 terrans + no atmo super hot with minerals is nice system

[round badger]

i can make do without a farming planet for a long ass time too, with the amount of food i end up finding on abandoned orbital habs

15k a trip adds up real fucking quick

[tired lake]

btw, the gas giant only has diffuse volatiles (no modifier)

so better than nothing or trace but not great

and there are no ||coronal hypershunts|| in range, unfortunately

[pallid dune]

so enough to generate fuel, but not so much i could use the artificial sun

[tired lake]

not sure about ||cryosleepers||, havent seen any

oh, and it lacks a ||gate||

but i mean, otherwise it's nice

[round badger]

back in MY day

[pallid dune]

sooo yeah about that? ||there is a solution, somewhere, iirc||

[tired lake]

where can i find the seed

[round badger]

if you wanted to use a [redacted] you needed a mod

it was actually fairly underpowered too

it used the same amount of fuel as if you had gone their manually, it just saved you time

[pallid dune]

to be fair, I'd still make that deal, fuel is the least worrysome of them

[round badger]

yeah so did i

[tired lake]

lol, this is quirky

[pallid dune]

ok, i actually dunno where you find the seed

[tired lake]

the rocky metallic world only has rich ore, but the barren one has ultrarich ore

otherwise identical, both super hot, both no atmo

[pallid dune]

ahhh

@tired lake bottom of your character seed

*sheet

there's even a fancy copy button

[tired lake]

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[round badger]

its not like my usual logistics loadout lacks fuel capacity anyway

[pallid dune]

Thanks... my seed isn't terrible, but like, my best colony system also houses ||redacted nexus||

[tired lake]

yeah this system is okay, the novelty of a double-terran orbiting a gas giant and the ultrarich + super hot + no atmo planet are the real stars of the show.

and having the ability to produce volatiles locally ig

[pallid dune]

i legit only run out of fuel if i brainfart and forget to refill before a journey

[tired lake]

honestly i may be underrating this system

[round badger]

😛 you know the way i tell?

[tired lake]

but eh

[round badger]

if i go to the hyperspace map and see light orange, i get confused

[pallid dune]

😄

also

so many core worlds have garbage supply rates

like 200 supplies and 500 fuel is going to do anything for me?

[round badger]

urgh

ill go to every single planet and move on to the next system

and then to the next 😛

the current logistics loadout, im considering a third prometheus

or maybe a couple more atlas?

[pallid dune]

yeah supplies and fuel is like you get back to the core, and then it's time to be a locust swarm to resupply

[round badger]

im kinda tempted by this one

[pallid dune]

understandably

[round badger]

also what does a shunt do again?

does it enable a planetside industry, or

[round badger]

.....i just fought so many pirate fleets simultaneously that i ended up with 3k machinery

[pallid dune]

actually curious, do more than 2 salvage boats make enough difference to yield to be worth it?

[serene viper]

Hypershunt allows a colony within 10 LY with a tap to build a 5th industry

[round badger]

Absolutely.

If I add one more my resource salvaging goes from 63 to 74%

Sorry, 69-74

It's 63 if I remove one so very diminishing returns but I think this is the sweet spot

I don't even want to think of how many pathers I just spaced

Mfers just don't know when to quit

[round badger]

OH FUCK THAT WAS A MISTAKE

......all hands lost.

[round badger]

0.0 i found one in the wild

[fleet glen]

another one underestimates the pathers :p

[round badger]

It was NOT the pathers

I ventured too greedily and too deep into the dark

The pathers I was wiping out a ship every salvo they didn't even scratch the paint

[serene viper]

Ah...

[pallid dune]

me debating if i want to buy a gryphon off the market, and deciding no, cause i wanna save for a Heron...

next planet:

yeah imma buy a gryphon at ~1/4th price thank you very much

[round badger]

I'm shook

My low tech capital carrier was gone before I could blink

I've never seen a legion go down like that

[hearty shale]

The dark, deep, far reaches, or a different kind of curiosity to delve? 😅

[round badger]

Idk what you mean by the latter

[hearty shale]

Thoroughly EMPd?

If that means nothing to you, it'd be spoilers to get more specific 😅

[round badger]

No "anglerfish" would be most accurate

[hearty shale]

ha! I had the same thought. Yea, I know exactly what you mean

[serene viper]

Huh. Generally armour's very good against those...

[hearty shale]

My high tech fleet had fairly few problems after I figured out how to fly my flagship there properly 😅

Good to know they wreck low tech?

it may be that armour is good

buuut, armour tends to be very slow

and they are fast and like ganging up on things

[serene viper]

Armour good.

Invictus tore them to shreds.

[hearty shale]

Tachyon Lance go bwoooam

[round badger]

There was one very beeg one with a very beeg beam

[steep ice]

Was super happy with the ships we picked up last stream.

two omens is nice, want to flesh out the wolfs a bit more though.

And the Hyperion (was it? forget the name) looks very fun to play with, but suspect it'll be less fun than my Afflictor, to fly.

So happy enough to hand that over to the AI, with their system expertise, it should work well.

[pallid dune]

ummm... nothanks
but i managed to sneakily scan the planet 😄

[serene viper]

Btw one of the first things I found in this playthrough:

[pallid dune]

ooohhhhh that sounds liek your wolf pack is getting spicy

[serene viper]

SMHHHHHH

[pallid dune]

ROFL

wow, that's a find

[serene viper]

I WAS LOOKING FOR ONE OF THESE SO LONG

I don't need it atm.

[pallid dune]

well now you know where one is for when you want to grab it

[serene viper]

Probably not gonna fly one this run.

[steep ice]

I imagine that once I find a nice phase destroyer, I'll migrate from the Afflictor, but for now, the biggest ship I have is a Condor, and even that I only field occasionally (with 2 Shepherds as an escort)

[serene viper]

Meanwhile this is my flagship (and only combat ship, custom start)

[steep ice]

lol

Fitting

[pallid dune]

SNEK!

[serene viper]

It's VERY fun.

[pallid dune]

ah and yeah train

I have to ask

can you add more carriages?

[serene viper]

?

Sadly, no 😦

Because my god I would.

[pallid dune]

aww

basically jsut playing "snake" but it's starsector

would be hilarious

[hearty shale]

SpaceTrain doing train things is very on brand

the war train xD

[fleet glen]

that tiny shield at the front is hillarious

[serene viper]

It's genuinely not a bad ship despite being a logi ship

About to do something seriously dumb though.

[hearty shale]

ramming speed?

[serene viper]

But if it works it'll be so funny.

[serene viper]

Oh no I've done that several times already. It's VERY effective, as is tail-whipping.

No uhm... I'm gonna pay a certain spot north east of Hybrasil a visit.

[hearty shale]

oh

I see

wait, that's always there? Good to know

[serene viper]

Yeah.

[fleet glen]

its pretty great to grab the cache in that place whenever you get the chance

honestly knowing where it is makes it kinda silly having to do the whole questline of like "oh where is it??"

oh yea you can place intel markers in there so that might keep it on your map

[serene viper]

Yeah... no I got my shit utterly wrecked LMAO

[serene viper]

Btw the mod author was asked this question and he is looking into it

[fleet glen]

heard if you story point and alpha core a tech mine on vast ruins its a guaranteed colony item

i think its cause the first roll of tech mining is always the juiciest so if you amp it up as much as possible its pretty great

not a long term thing to keep around though

[hearty shale]

I found it at random xD

Just a random [redacted] out while travelling and I thought 'Huh, what's this?'

Roadtrain was in the stream at the time

[fleet glen]

of course