Znurt's future Gentoo

[sour sinew]

@knotty spindle let's continue here, please.

it'll avoid to mix your discussion with other, will help you remember stuff we told you too.

[knotty spindle]

alrighty :3

[sour sinew]

then the output ? :P

[sour sinew]

man

:)

wgetpaste -c "emerge --pretend sys-kernel/linux-firmware"

other things, I do not care, I need that output.

:)

if you need guidance, please, ask.

I prefer to hold your hand regarding your age and troubles than let you abandon of tireness and angryness :)

[knotty spindle]

it does not recognize what a wgetpaste is

its not a command

[sour sinew]

ok

let me explain

more command you have in your classic distro aren't in Gentoo by default, it's normal.

When «command not found»

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wgetpaste

https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/app-text/wgetpaste

both websites are your friends.

So yeah, install wgetpaste

you'll need it even in 2 years, anyway :)

[knotty spindle]

my brother is annyoing me <3

[sour sinew]

--deselect him

emerge --deselect relative/annoying-brother

:')

[knotty spindle]

https://bpa.st/4GPA

[sour sinew]

• sys-kernel/linux-firmware-20240513::gentoo (masked by: || ( ) linux-fw-redistributable license(s))
• sys-kernel/linux-firmware-20240410::gentoo (masked by: || ( ) linux-fw-redistributable license(s))
• sys-kernel/linux-firmware-20240312::gentoo (masked by: || ( ) linux-fw-redistributable license(s))

ok

it's easy, and normal

what does install this package @knotty spindle ?

[knotty spindle]

what do you mean

[sour sinew]

What contains this package in your idea ?

(I'll hold your hand, but lecture you at the same time)

(to help you understood)

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Kernel#Firmware it's writed, here.

[knotty spindle]

my phone is 3%

the battery is so fucking weak

[sour sinew]

the answer is literaly here, from what this packages contains, to why you did not achieve to install it.

use your computer to speak here maybe ?

otherwise, helping you will be hell.

[knotty spindle]

k

[sour sinew]

By any means, please, don't rush the installation, could seems very long, but not that much, specially with peoples behind your back :).

you can pause it and even continue another day, it's ok.

this topic will allow us to keep track.

[knotty spindle]

so how do i unmask now

[sour sinew]

I did not had my answer. Will help you IF I think you are ready for next steps. It's important.

So: 1/ What does this package is for ?
2/ ? Answer 1/ first.

it's in it's name actually

linux-firmware.

[knotty spindle]

i want firmware

[sour sinew]

yes, because the vanilla kernel does not contains such proprietary things.

The message is saying you

"I can't install them, licence was NOT accepted"

to accept a licence, it's easy.

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Working/Portage#Licenses As linked.

You'll, simply, have to add into your make.conf:

ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE"

it'll accept a bunch of licence, not all, but the basics.

add that to your make.conf, then rerun the command.

if it act again, wgetpaste -c "command"

[knotty spindle]

nano /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf

do i go there

[sour sinew]

WAIT A MINUTE

I have a doubt.

Please: wgetpaste /etc/portage/make.conf

I'm sure to find goofyness into it :)

If I'm right, I'm slapping you !

https://tenor.com/view/goob-morning-gif-4230513225408415847

[knotty spindle]

https://bpa.st/UXOA

[sour sinew]

ok. Big problem here.

I think.

Don't you had to configure this file already ?

COMMON_FLAGS="-O2 -pipe" <<< where is -march=native ?

[knotty spindle]

i added makeopts

[sour sinew]

Please, see mine: https://bpa.st/PCPQ

Line 5

sir, you don't added what's your arch required into COMMON_FLAGS

[knotty spindle]

im on nano

what do i edit

[sour sinew]

1/ Add -march=native as showed in my link
2/ Add the same stuff as me for: ACCEPT_LICENSE=

(and do not pick anything else)

(every make.conf is unique)

once it's done, allow me to recheck by:
wgetpaste /etc/portage/make.conf

sounds slow, but it could save you time, later.

[knotty spindle]

https://bpa.st/C4LQ

[sour sinew]

Point 2 was mandatory you know :P

[knotty spindle]

fuck

[sour sinew]

Fucking ADHD ! 

I see myself a bit by helping you. That's always fun…

[knotty spindle]

what do i put next to the ACCEPT_LICENSE=

[sour sinew]

see my link.

that is what you needs for basical stuff at installation.

[knotty spindle]

https://bpa.st/NC5A

[sour sinew]

well, sorry I wasn't clear

ACCEPT_LICENSES="-* @FREE @BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE"

@BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE as well

then, rerun your installation of linux-firmware.

[knotty spindle]

wgetpaste /etc/portage/make.conf

https://bpa.st/N4CQ

[sour sinew]

I have to leave, for 30m to one hour, approximatly, then I'll get back and help you if needed.

[knotty spindle]

dang it

[sour sinew]

it's better, try firmware :)

[knotty spindle]

• IMPORTANT: 2 config files in '/etc/portage' need updating.
• See the CONFIGURATION FILES and CONFIGURATION FILES UPDATE TOOLS
• sections of the emerge man page to learn how to update config files.

me waiting 1 quintillio years just to get kevin back:

https://tenor.com/view/you've-been-waiting-forever-miracle-musical-time-machine-gif-12127409334882447134

😭

WHEN

ARE

YOU

COMING

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

i shut down the computer my mom forced me

[sour sinew]

back

62 minutes.

:P

[sour sinew]

--deselect her

it's ok, at some point installation can be paused, even by shutting down the machine.

and yeah, once portage ask you to update conf, as it's written, you simply run distpach-conf, it'll shows you what it wants, and you can sometimes disagree and zap-new, or use it if you thinks it won't break your things.

[stiff delta]

-show wgetpaste

[stark forge]

Please use wgetpaste[1] to provide us more information about the error. wgetpaste uploads the output of a command or the contents of a file to a paste service.

emerge --ask app-text/wgetpaste app-text/ansifilter

Build error? Upload build.log (path to file included in error message):
wgetpaste -s pgz -N /path/to/build.log

Need to send emerge --info?
wgetpaste -I

Paste output from a command:
wgetpaste -s pgz -N -c "emerge ..."

[1]: app-text/wgetpaste - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wgetpaste

[knotty spindle]

sorgy i was sleeping

[knotty spindle]

how can i resume it

[visual marsh]

you boot the live install iso again, mount the drives like you did after formatting them and chroot back Into the system

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks#Resumed_installations_start_here

[knotty spindle]

but is the portage and system stuff still there

[visual marsh]

yes

[knotty spindle]

so every progress i made is saved (except mounting and chrooting)

[visual marsh]

yep

[knotty spindle]

THANK GOD

i was so worried

[visual marsh]

cause you write those

to the actual drive you gonna use

so if you just mount it again everything should be there :)

[knotty spindle]

i litterally stressed out when i wanted to sleep

[visual marsh]

I had the same thing happen to me, tried the install and my mum got annoyed that I was at my pc the whole time xd

[knotty spindle]

so do i just plug in the usb drive and then turn it on then spam f9 once i turn it on

[knotty spindle]

SAME

[visual marsh]

yep

[knotty spindle]

my mom forced me to turn off my laptop

[visual marsh]

or if you are dualbooting with windows

you can hold shift and click the powemenu

to get into recovery

[knotty spindle]

the laptop USED to have windows but then i removed it

[visual marsh]

ah

smart :)

[knotty spindle]

yeah

[visual marsh]

better choice anyway

[knotty spindle]

the windows 10 lagged the fuck out of it because windows used so much fucking ram 💀

[visual marsh]

i feel you

[knotty spindle]

my laptop has 8GB

[visual marsh]

i haven't switched cause of uni

but soon

[knotty spindle]

i kinda wanna upgrade it

to 16 gb

[visual marsh]

yeee

I did that too

[knotty spindle]

im waiting for @sour sinew

[visual marsh]

xd

I'd help you but I don't know enough

and I don't wanna mess with the stuff he explained to you

[knotty spindle]

oh pkt

[visual marsh]

:3

[knotty spindle]

alr

i understand

ima be on my own till hes back

[visual marsh]

tho glad I could clear up the stuff about chroot

I mean if you just want someone to hang out with while you do the installation we could hop into a vc

[sour sinew]

hey

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cattitude-catitude-cat-watch-cat-watching-gif-23322844

[visual marsh]

[sour sinew]

how, it says offline… HACKERS 

[visual marsh]

hm?

[sour sinew]

very bad humour, no worry.

[visual marsh]

ooh

[knotty spindle]

KEVIN

[sour sinew]

hey

[knotty spindle]

we are so back

(im booting into the mint live environment again

[sour sinew]

I guess that's your env for installation before chrooting.

[knotty spindle]

my moom allowed me to stay on the laptop again

im so excited to do this again

[visual marsh]

[knotty spindle]

she left to go outside

[visual marsh]

kinda motivated to install in on my spare nvme too xd

[knotty spindle]

what do i do now

do i mount the disks

[sour sinew]

well, now

you have to get back to the point where you enter the chrooted env.

so you get back in time in the handbook, and you redo the chrooting stuff, but please don't forget to:

[knotty spindle]

what do i do first

[visual marsh]

.

[sour sinew]

1/ Identify the future /
2/ Identify the futur /efi
3/ mount / into the chroot, then
4/ Inside the chroot, mount /efi as well

[knotty spindle]

how

sorry im just

idk what you mean by 1 and 2

[sour sinew]

before, you chosen a root (/) partition, right ?

With fdisk you formatted it.

[knotty spindle]

havent done anything yet

[knotty spindle]

yea

[sour sinew]

what.

this morning, at least in france, you were trying to compile linux-firmware

are you a black magician ?

[knotty spindle]

yea i was

[sour sinew]

then, you had to download stage3 after mounting it and chrooting, right ?

[knotty spindle]

i havent done anything now
i dont know what to do:
mount the disks
getting back to chroot

[knotty spindle]

yep

[sour sinew]

then, you HAVE choose a partition for / (root), right ?

What does return:

fdisk -l

[knotty spindle]

do i mkdir --parents /mnt/gentoo/efi

[sour sinew]

before anything, we have to ensure what you did.

We will try to do it tho proper way.

Please, return the fdisk -l output (preferably, into bpa.st please).

1/ Where to go, what partitionS are we working in.

[knotty spindle]

do i type fdisk -l

[sour sinew]

yes

then you paste it to bpa.st.

(it's the default website of wgetpaste)

[sour sinew]

1/ wgetpaste was not asked
2/ you need to run «sudo» before

[visual marsh]

sudo fdisk -l

[sour sinew]

if I do not ask, that was for that. It could be available to install on mint, but I do not know and wish to know.

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-24285488

[knotty spindle]

hisss...

[sour sinew]

gosh, can't you paste it on bpa.st ?

Would avoid me to type things

while I started hammering my empty brain.

[knotty spindle]

https://bpa.st/EABQ

[sour sinew]

Disk model: TOSHIBA MK1059GS
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 25621C16-AB2A-D846-B82F-C95D510DFB3A

Device        Start        End    Sectors   Size Type
/dev/sda1      2048    2099199    2097152     1G EFI System
/dev/sda2   2099200   10487807    8388608     4G Linux swap
/dev/sda3  10487808 1953525134 1943037327 926.5G Linux root (x86-64)```

I guess it is the hard drive you are working on.

[knotty spindle]

yep

[sour sinew]

https://www.amazon.fr/Toshiba-MK1059GSM-Disque-interne-Royaume/dp/B00433AM8K no ssd

haha

ok.

[knotty spindle]

ITS NOT AN SSD!?

[sour sinew]

second line sir.

[knotty spindle]

then how is it so fucking fast

[sour sinew]

well

there is other drive

only the usb actually

the cruser drive is an USB stick I guess ?

[knotty spindle]

cruzer blade is the USB drive

[visual marsh]

yep

[sour sinew]

well, you have what seems to be a 5400rpm hard drive.

Honnestly, who cares, compiles would be longer.

So what.

[knotty spindle]

what to do next

[knotty spindle]

HARD DRIVES DIE FASTER OMG

IM SO SCARED

[sour sinew]

no

and no.

[knotty spindle]

IT MIGHT BREAK

[sour sinew]

and no no no .

[visual marsh]

nooo

[sour sinew]

chill out

[knotty spindle]

okay

anyway what to do next

[sour sinew]

well, let's read the output

/dev/sda1      2048    2099199    2097152     1G EFI System
/dev/sda2   2099200   10487807    8388608     4G Linux swap
/dev/sda3  10487808 1953525134 1943037327 926.5G Linux root (x86-64)```

sda1 is EFI partition.

sda2 is your swap.

sda3 the wannabe /

[knotty spindle]

is sda3 the main storage i download stuff

[sour sinew]

it's your primary partition for your future gentoo, that's the root, where everything goes.

so, sort of, yeah.

[knotty spindle]

so what do i do next

[sour sinew]

do the chroot procedure, while targeting sda3, that is the one that needs to be mounted and then chrooted.

efi will be seen after that.

we will also mount and active your swap partition as well, if we needs it.

[knotty spindle]

what command do i type

[sour sinew]

.

shit

[visual marsh]

mount

[sour sinew]

«#1242020317560307722 message»

[knotty spindle]

tf

[sour sinew]

chill sir.

you have to create it.

mkdir /mnt/gentoo

[knotty spindle]

do i go on root

because it said permission denied

[visual marsh]

then do sudo

[sour sinew]

(:

[visual marsh]

In front of it

or just sudo su

and not worry

about it anymore

[knotty spindle]

ima go superuser

[sour sinew]

sudo su

[knotty spindle]

wait my system is UEFI

[visual marsh]

what has that to do with anything rn?

[sour sinew]

nothing.

I love ADHD how it makes you panic for nothing.

[visual marsh]

yep

it's fun

I love it

[knotty spindle]

i mounted sda3 on mnt/gentoo/

[sour sinew]

was like that a bit at his age, cute. Actually.

nice.

then, chroot procedure.

[knotty spindle]

im 13 years old btw

[sour sinew]

by hitting /mnt/gentoo

[sour sinew]

and you started linux sooner than me

a bit.

Was ~16

and awful at it.

[knotty spindle]

ive heard of linux in 2017 and then actually tried it on a VM in 2019

[visual marsh]

👀

[sour sinew]

Smart ass.

[visual marsh]

I started around 17 or so, when one of your comp sci teachers had a rant on windows xd

[knotty spindle]

so simply just typing that

[sour sinew]

no lol

wait

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Base#Mounting_the_necessary_filesystems

arch-chroot isn't available to you, so the whole procedure, without arch-chroot.

[knotty spindle]

im in chroot

im gonna see if everything is safed

[sour sinew]

noice

[knotty spindle]

yep

[sour sinew]

you are back into your chrooted partition

[knotty spindle]

everything is done

[sour sinew]

yay, it is here :)

where did you stopped ?

[knotty spindle]

installing linux firmware

i think

wait its actually installing linux firmware

emerge --ask sys-firmware/sof-firmware do i do this too

[sour sinew]

probably not needed

you don't do sounds weird stuff, I kind of remember it's for sound app

[visual marsh]

do you have an intel cpu?

[sour sinew]

advanced stuff, skipping it is probably fine.

[knotty spindle]

ye

intel core i7

2nd gen

[visual marsh]

for me i had to install it for audio to work but my cpu is a bit newer

so no idea

id leave it out

and just grab it later

if it doesnt work

[sour sinew]

^

so skip it, go to microcode below.

[knotty spindle]

kay

ig ill lose sound

[sour sinew]

no

I don't think so

nd if needed, you could install it, later

[visual marsh]

nah nah, i checked its only for stuff newer than 2019

[sour sinew]

no worries.

[knotty spindle]

In addition to discrete graphics hardware and network interfaces, CPUs also can require firmware updates. Typically this kind of firmware is referred to as microcode. Newer revisions of microcode are sometimes necessary to patch instability, security concerns, or other miscellaneous bugs in CPU hardware.

Microcode updates for AMD CPUs are distributed within the aforementioned sys-kernel/linux-firmware package. Microcode for Intel CPUs can be found within the sys-firmware/intel-microcode package, which will need to be installed separately. See the Microcode article for more information on how to apply microcode updates.```

tf do i do here

[foggy nest]

emerge -av sys-firmware/intel-microcode

[knotty spindle]

pasted

thanks duck

[sour sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-gif-26090688

[knotty spindle]

• IMPORTANT: 2 config files in '/etc' need updating.
• See the CONFIGURATION FILES and CONFIGURATION FILES UPDATE TOOLS
• sections of the emerge man page to learn how to update config files.

[foggy nest]

dispatch-conf

[sour sinew]

^

too drunk to type fast

[knotty spindle]

you drank alchohol?

[visual marsh]

[sour sinew]

Kévin, slighty pimped

[knotty spindle]

what does it taste like ive never tried it not saying i wanna drink

[knotty spindle]

also thanks again duck

[sour sinew]

taste like blood, actually, very metal taste.

don't touch it

[knotty spindle]

(1 of 1) -- /etc/portage/package.use/zz-autounmask
q quit, h help, n next, e edit-new, z zap-new, u use-new
m merge, t toggle-merge, l look-merge:

[sour sinew]

or I kick your nuts.

ok

[knotty spindle]

what nuts

[foggy nest]

average french vampire

[foggy nest]

u

[visual marsh]

wtf are you drinking xd

[sour sinew]

the thing below your sausage.

[knotty spindle]

i have none /s

[foggy nest]

he told me "alcoholic tea"

[sour sinew]

no, almost like tea, but stronger.

[knotty spindle]

ew why the fuck would i touch it 💀

wait i think im lucky

I MIGHT ACTUALLY INSTALL

GENTOO

OMG IS MY DREAMS COMING TRUE

[sour sinew]

no, let's finish it first

it's not done yet.

[knotty spindle]

IK

[sour sinew]

<< dream killer

[knotty spindle]

BUT ITS STILL MAKING MY DREAMS TRUE

[sour sinew]

are you at the linux step already ?

[knotty spindle]

WHATS MICROCODE AGAIN

[knotty spindle]

it finished sys-kernel/linux-firmware

[sour sinew]

sys-firmware/intel-microcode install it

[knotty spindle]

• Unable to find kernel sources at /usr/src/linux

• Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version for build, attempting to use running version

• Your configuration for sys-kernel/linux-firmware-20240513 has been saved in

• "/etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware-20240513" for your editing pleasure.

• You can edit these files by hand and remerge this package with

• USE=savedconfig to customise the configuration.

• You can rename this file/directory to one of the following for

• its configuration to apply to multiple versions:

• ${PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT}/etc/portage/savedconfig/

• [${CTARGET}|${CHOST}|""]/${CATEGORY}/[${PF}|${P}|${PN}]

• If you are only interested in particular firmware files, edit the saved

• configfile and remove those that you do not want.

• GNU info directory index is up-to-date.

• IMPORTANT: 17 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.

• Use eselect news read to view new items.

[foggy nest]

it's because we haven't installed a kernel yet

[knotty spindle]

do i do it in configuring the kernel?

[foggy nest]

yes

[knotty spindle]

Installing a distribution kernel

Before installing the kernel package the dracut USE flag needs to be added for the package sys-kernel/installkernel in /etc/portage/package.use:
FILE /etc/portage/package.use/installkernelEnable dracut support

sys-kernel/installkernel dracut

Users may also wish to enable additional sys-kernel/installkernel USE flags at this stage. See the Installation/Kernel#Installkernel section for details.

To build a kernel with Gentoo patches from source, type:
root #emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel

System administrators who want to avoid compiling the kernel sources locally can instead use precompiled kernel images:
root #emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin
Optional: Signed kernel modules

The kernel modules in the prebuilt distribution kernel (sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin) are already signed. To sign the modules of kernels built from source enable the modules-sign USE flag, and optionally specify which key to use for signing in /etc/portage/make.conf:
FILE /etc/portage/make.confEnable module signing

USE="modules-sign"

Optionally, to use custom signing keys.

MODULES_SIGN_KEY="/path/to/kernel_key.pem"
MODULES_SIGN_CERT="/path/to/kernel_key.pem" # Only required if the MODULES_SIGN_KEY does not also contain the certificate.
MODULES_SIGN_HASH="sha512" # Defaults to sha512.

If MODULES_SIGN_KEY is not specified the kernel build system will generate a key, it will be stored in /usr/src/linux-x.y.z/certs. It is recommended to manually generate a key to ensure that it will be the same for each kernel release. A key may be generated with:
root #openssl req -new -nodes -utf8 -sha256 -x509 -outform PEM -out kernel_key.pem -keyout kernel_key.pem
Note
The MODULES_SIGN_KEY and MODULES_SIGN_CERT may be different files. For this example the pem file generated by OpenSSL includes both the key and the accompanying certificate, and thus both variables are set to the same value.

[sour sinew]

just use the link please god lol

[foggy nest]

/etc/portage/package.use/installkernelEnable dracut support

sys-kernel/installkernel dracut

then

emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

[knotty spindle]

bash: sys-kernel/installkernel: No such file or directory

[sour sinew]

lol

dude, read :)

you have to use emerge

it's a package name

not a command ;)

emerge --ask category/packagename

[knotty spindle]

emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel

do i put this

[sour sinew]

did you installed the package sys-kernel/installkernel

[knotty spindle]

wait

NO

i forgor

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[sour sinew]

gosh you broked the computer

too late.

it's dead.

(no)

[knotty spindle]

OMG

NO

MO

OMG'

[foggy nest]

you need to nano /etc/protage/package.use/installkernel

[sour sinew]

no no

[knotty spindle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[sour sinew]

it's a joke

[knotty spindle]

omg

you scared me

[sour sinew]

sorry

[visual marsh]

[sour sinew]

too tempting.

[knotty spindle]

its alright ig

[sour sinew]

won't ever do again :P

[knotty spindle]

but do i install sys-kernel/installkernel when its done

UH OH

THE LAPTOPS FANS ARE GETTINGS LOUDER

[sour sinew]

no, it's before the kernel.

[knotty spindle]

IT SCARED ME

[sour sinew]

it's called a compilation

your CPU goes woof.

as the fan.

[visual marsh]

get used to that

[sour sinew]

yeah.

[knotty spindle]

IM AFRAID ITLL UH

[sour sinew]

living in your country… hope you have cooler !!

[knotty spindle]

YK

[sour sinew]

:D

[knotty spindle]

CRASH???

[visual marsh]

nope

[knotty spindle]

the AC is on

[sour sinew]

could crash the software, worstcase.

like, worst, it's nothing.

[knotty spindle]

uh oh

[sour sinew]

that would means you have misconfigured MAKEOPTS

[visual marsh]

but now you know how to get back into your system right :)

[sour sinew]

it happens while beginning.

[knotty spindle]

its -j4

please dont crash

[sour sinew]

how much ram ?

[knotty spindle]

8

8

8

[sour sinew]

It needs 8.

[knotty spindle]

8

[visual marsh]

8 with swap

[sour sinew]

ok

[knotty spindle]

IM SO SCARED

[sour sinew]

CHILL OUT YOUR ADHD OR I'LL CHILL IT OUT MESELF

(:

no need to flood

:)

[knotty spindle]

OKAY THE FANS ARE CALMING DOWN

[visual marsh]

good good

[knotty spindle]

i can hear my CPU being hyperactive

uh oh its loud again

[sour sinew]

adhd cpus.

:D

[visual marsh]

just like you

xd

[knotty spindle]

true

[sour sinew]

true

[knotty spindle]

i can hear my fans scream in agony

[visual marsh]

it wont die dont worry

[sour sinew]

tips, elevate the laptop with a book

laptop get heated easily.

[knotty spindle]

its already elevated

[sour sinew]

specially old laptop.

[knotty spindle]

it has great cooling anyway

[sour sinew]

well, good luck, don't start a fire

[knotty spindle]

since the laptop is getting blasted by cold air

[sour sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-fire-burning-lag-gif-19373925

[knotty spindle]

WHAT

WAHT

[sour sinew]

Forgot autist are literal people…

[foggy nest]

if it gets too hot

[sour sinew]

sorry…

[visual marsh]

my laptop is doing it too rn while its updating to the new kernel xd

[sour sinew]

literal = taking everything at first degree

[knotty spindle]

ITS FINE?

[visual marsh]

yea

[knotty spindle]

discord is lagging

[sour sinew]

yeah.

[knotty spindle]

a bit

[sour sinew]

normal.

[knotty spindle]

this is not good

[sour sinew]

decrease to -j3 after this compilation.

would help a bit.

[visual marsh]

its sitting at like 90°C rn

[knotty spindle]

k

[sour sinew]

after

not now.

[knotty spindle]

ik

i can feel the CPUs pain ;-;

[sour sinew]

it's made for.

[visual marsh]

itĺl be fine

[knotty spindle]

okay

[sour sinew]

joke : if plastic start to smell………

[knotty spindle]

my laptop is kind of made of something else much stronger

[sour sinew]

diamonds ?

[visual marsh]

only reason i ever saw a laptop catch on fire was the battery, dw about the cpu

[sour sinew]

fucking rich kid.

[knotty spindle]

no

[visual marsh]

those would burn just as bad

[knotty spindle]

i think its plastic too but a stronger version

[sour sinew]

better-plsatic

[visual marsh]

metal?

[sour sinew]

lol

[visual marsh]

xd

[foggy nest]

carbon atoms

[knotty spindle]

idk

[sour sinew]

need stronger alcohol

brb in a minute

[knotty spindle]

im on mobile

[visual marsh]

i have a bottle of whiskey

:3

[knotty spindle]

dang its 6 PM already for me

[sour sinew]

i've better

[knotty spindle]

WHEN WILL THIS COMPILING FINISH

😭

[sour sinew]

hours, regarding the config.

and the HDD.

[visual marsh]

yea about that

[sour sinew]

you could stop it, but

[visual marsh]

you gonna learn patience

[sour sinew]

it'll start from beginning.

[knotty spindle]

.

[foggy nest]

did you do the bin kernel?

[sour sinew]

dead end…

[knotty spindle]

no

[visual marsh]

dont think so

[knotty spindle]

but ill do it if it is done

[visual marsh]

...

[foggy nest]

then hours

[sour sinew]

rkrkrkrkrkrkrrkrkrkrk

[visual marsh]

no

[knotty spindle]

hours aint that bad

2 hours js fine for me

[sour sinew]

more 8 IMHO

[knotty spindle]

WHAT

[foggy nest]

yeah

[knotty spindle]

i have school tommorow!!!

[foggy nest]

kernelbig

[sour sinew]

kernel is fat

fatty kernel is fat

we told you to use bin

you did not

welcome to gentoo

[knotty spindle]

I FORGOR

NOOOO

ITS TO LATE

[visual marsh]

you can always cancel it iggg

[knotty spindle]

IM SUCH AN IDIOT

[sour sinew]

stop forgoring then.

[knotty spindle]

IM A DUMBASS

[sour sinew]

shhh, where's the fun.

[knotty spindle]

😭😭😭

[visual marsh]

true

[knotty spindle]

IM TOO DUMB NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I SUCK

I ALWAYS SUCK AT THIS

I HATE THIS

[visual marsh]

feel like he should definetly enable the binaty packages later

[sour sinew]

yeah, like everyone at first.

[visual marsh]

noo

[sour sinew]

you'll love this

[knotty spindle]

I COULDVE USED BIN BUT MY DUMBASS BRAIN DECIDED TO USE THE OTHER

[visual marsh]

[knotty spindle]

OMG I FUCKING HATE MYSELF

[sour sinew]

it's masochistic, welcome.

[visual marsh]

not allowed

[sour sinew]

me life since 32 yo

get used to it

[visual marsh]

no self hate here xd

[sour sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-life-me-goals-cat-life-goals-gif-16468233

[foggy nest]

you can control-c

[knotty spindle]

what does that do

[foggy nest]

then emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin

[foggy nest]

it stops it

[knotty spindle]

and will my cpu calm

[foggy nest]

yes

[knotty spindle]

i stoped

my fans should be quieter now

[visual marsh]

now press arrow up

[foggy nest]

now this

[visual marsh]

and add -bin

to the end

[knotty spindle]

added -bin

okay my fans have calmed

[visual marsh]

is it installing stuff again?

[knotty spindle]

y

how long does the bin take to install

[visual marsh]

shorter

[sour sinew]

minutes, top

[visual marsh]

depending on how fast you can download

[knotty spindle]

yay

[sour sinew]

it's like installing a kernel on any other packake-based distro

[knotty spindle]

like on WIFI or harddisk speed

[sour sinew]

in this matter.

[visual marsh]

both in this case

tho wifi

more likely

[knotty spindle]

my wifi is kinda fast

[visual marsh]

good

[visual marsh]

thats looking a lot better

[knotty spindle]

yay

[visual marsh]

no more waiting for hours

(at least not on the kernel)

[sour sinew]

I guess you won't be allowed to keep going for long.

[knotty spindle]

okay

so what do i do after this

[sour sinew]

which is cool because I'm full drunk now, first level stage as hit.

[visual marsh]

but its more fun this way

[sour sinew]

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Kernel#Upgrading_and_cleaning_up

[foggy nest]

eselect kernel list

[knotty spindle]

kay

tysm

[sour sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-21809175

[foggy nest]

then eselect kernel set x x being the kernel listed

the number

[sour sinew]

I'm too drunk, I'm leaving, good luck young fellah, would be able to help you if needed tomorrow

[knotty spindle]

byebye

hope you dont get liver failure from the alcohol

[sour sinew]

more probable to die from cancer from lungs, don't worry !

[knotty spindle]

you smoke?

[sour sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/caca-cat-smile-smile-smile-cat-risa-gif-15687254

[visual marsh]

[knotty spindle]

my laptop is 14 years old

[sour sinew]

ahahah

[knotty spindle]

even a year older than me and can even compile shiz and i cant

yea it finished compiling the bin kernel

[visual marsh]

nice nice

[knotty spindle]

yeab i think its the ONLY kernel

[foggy nest]

being though

[knotty spindle]

okay now what to do next

[foggy nest]

we should be done with this section

[knotty spindle]

do i upgrade and clean up the kernel then ee should be to the next section

[foggy nest]

the kernel is already at the stable version

[knotty spindle]

wait afk

back

anyway what to do next

[foggy nest]

we should be good to go to the next section now

so in the interest of time.

i would recommend using gensfstab for the fstab

emerge -av sys-fs/genfsta

then genfstab -U / >> /etc/fstab

[knotty spindle]

i installed genfstab

[knotty spindle]

did this too

now what

[foggy nest]

are you using systemd or openrc?

[knotty spindle]

openrc ig

[foggy nest]

echo tux > /etc/hostname

replace tux with your hostname

[knotty spindle]

how do i check my hostname

like my laptop model?

[foggy nest]

it can be anything you want

your setting it

[knotty spindle]

okay im gonna set it to znurt

like my username

now what

[visual marsh]

or just gentoo-laptop or smth

[foggy nest]

emerge --ask net-misc/dhcpcd

then rc-update add dhcpcd default then rc-service dhcpcd start

[knotty spindle]

but what does this do

[foggy nest]

it stars dhcpcd (network things) and adds it to autostart when system boots

[knotty spindle]

oh okay

it says dhcpcd is already starting

[foggy nest]

then do the other one

[knotty spindle]

so i type it again

[foggy nest]

rc-service dhcpcd start

wait

no

rc-update add dhcpcd default

[knotty spindle]

• rc-update: dhcpcd already installed in runlevel `default'; skipping

[foggy nest]

i've confused my self

good

now we set root password

[knotty spindle]

alright

but how

[foggy nest]

passwd

[knotty spindle]

how do i do it with passwd

[foggy nest]

passwd is the command to set password

[knotty spindle]

Usage: passwd [options] [LOGIN]

Options:
  -a, --all                     report password status on all accounts
  -d, --delete                  delete the password for the named account
  -e, --expire                  force expire the password for the named account
  -h, --help                    display this help message and exit
  -k, --keep-tokens             change password only if expired
  -i, --inactive INACTIVE       set password inactive after expiration
                                to INACTIVE
  -l, --lock                    lock the password of the named account
  -n, --mindays MIN_DAYS        set minimum number of days before password
                                change to MIN_DAYS
  -q, --quiet                   quiet mode
  -r, --repository REPOSITORY   change password in REPOSITORY repository
  -R, --root CHROOT_DIR         directory to chroot into
  -P, --prefix PREFIX_DIR       directory prefix
  -S, --status                  report password status on the named account
  -u, --unlock                  unlock the password of the named account
  -w, --warndays WARN_DAYS      set expiration warning days to WARN_DAYS
  -x, --maxdays MAX_DAYS        set maximum number of days before password
                                change to MAX_DAYS```

[foggy nest]

no

just passwd

thats all you need

[knotty spindle]

changed

what now

[foggy nest]

nano /etc/conf.d/keymaps

set the correct keyboard layout

[knotty spindle]

i think its already the default

[foggy nest]

good

[knotty spindle]

it says keymap=us

[foggy nest]

next section

emerge --ask app-admin/sysklogd then rc-update add sysklogd default

[knotty spindle]

did it

now what

[foggy nest]

emerge --ask sys-process/cronie

rc-update add cronie default

[knotty spindle]

done

[foggy nest]

emerge --ask sys-apps/mlocate

[knotty spindle]

what does theese do??? 💀

[foggy nest]

In order to index the file system to provide faster file location capabilities, install sys-apps/mlocate.

[knotty spindle]

ooo

ok

done

now what

[foggy nest]

now do you want / need ssh

if so rc-update add sshd default

[knotty spindle]

no im not planning to make my laptop a home server

so i dont really need ssh

[foggy nest]

very well

do you have a prefered shell?

[knotty spindle]

bash

i want bash

[foggy nest]

emerge --ask app-shells/bash-completion

[knotty spindle]

dne

done

[foggy nest]

emerge --ask net-misc/chrony this is for time syncing

rc-update add chronyd default

[knotty spindle]

done

[foggy nest]

what file systems you using?

[knotty spindle]

uhhhhh

wdym

like file manager?

[foggy nest]

ext4 , fat32 ?

that type of thing

[knotty spindle]

how do i check

[foggy nest]

can't remember. so well do this emerge -av sys-fs/e2fsprogs sys-fs/dosfstools sys-block/io-scheduler-udev-rules

[knotty spindle]

also ill be right back

afk

[foggy nest]

this basically allows you to format things and the such

and other things

Brb

[knotty spindle]

back

[foggy nest]

Give me a minute

[knotty spindle]

k

take your time

:3

[naive python]

type mount to check the flesystem

and look for your device

it should say smth like /dev/sdaXy type (fs) on /

[knotty spindle]

/dev/sda3 on / type xfs (rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,logbufs=8,logbsize=32k,noquota)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
cgroup2 on /sys/fs/cgroup type cgroup2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nsdelegate,memory_recursiveprot)
pstore on /sys/fs/pstore type pstore (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
bpf on /sys/fs/bpf type bpf (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,mode=700)
tracefs on /sys/kernel/tracing type tracefs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
configfs on /sys/kernel/config type configfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,nosuid,relatime,size=3985376k,nr_inodes=996344,mode=755,inode64)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,inode64)
mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
hugetlbfs on /dev/hugepages type hugetlbfs (rw,relatime,pagesize=2M)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=810532k,mode=755,inode64)

[naive python]

ok

[knotty spindle]

is it ext4

or fat32

[naive python]

so emerge sys-fs/xfsprogs

its xfs

[knotty spindle]

tf is xfs

ext4?

[naive python]

a filesystem

no

ext4 is also a diffirent filesystem

xfs is an ok filesystem

[knotty spindle]

is xfs good

[naive python]

ext4 is the standard

depends on your use case

usually you cant call filesystems "good " or "bad"

[knotty spindle]

i wanna daily drive gentoo linux

[naive python]

yea then xfs or ext4 is a good idea

[knotty spindle]

so it dosent really matter what file system you use

[sour sinew]

xfs = can't reduce fs seize, at all

pro = can do it live

[naive python]

which is good

oh wait

[sour sinew]

ext4 is safer for his use case I guess.

[naive python]

no thats bad

[foggy nest]

back

[naive python]

yea but they would have to restart

the install

[knotty spindle]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[naive python]

if they wanted to change fs

so keep xfs

its ok

[knotty spindle]

tf is an fs

[naive python]

its fine for use case

[sour sinew]

filesystem

[naive python]

if ur not going to dual boot or do any weird partition stuff

[knotty spindle]

i barely dualboot anymore

[sour sinew]

but xfs is fine, sure, I use it too.

[knotty spindle]

oh

okay then ill keep xfs then

now what

[naive python]

yea so emerge sys-fs/xfsprogrs

because that lets u manage xfs stuff

[sour sinew]

no need, it's already here IIRC

[knotty spindle]

its xfs

[sour sinew]

he could try tho to be sure.

[foggy nest]

emerge -av sys-fs/xfsprogs

[naive python]

last time i checked it wasnt in the stage3 tarball

[sour sinew]

but do it anyway

can be wrong

read the nickname

[foggy nest]

this as well

[naive python]

yea

[knotty spindle]

anyway what to do after this

[naive python]

did u make the fstab already?

[knotty spindle]

im sorry im just super excited to use gentoo

[foggy nest]

we did

[sour sinew]

it's like any other distro… sort-of.

[knotty spindle]

except you manually install

[naive python]

ok so add a user for daily use(this is nice to do in the chroot)

and bootloader stuff

[knotty spindle]

so how

[foggy nest]

we haven't gotten to that part of the handbook yet

[naive python]

oh ok

[knotty spindle]

oop my fans are being loud when compiling xfsprog

[naive python]

then you want networking

r u using wireless or ethernet

[foggy nest]

we're on the #Networking tools part

[naive python]

yea

[knotty spindle]

im on the configuring the system in the handbook

[foggy nest]

thats the fstab bit

we did that

move to the next page

please

[knotty spindle]

okay

installing tools

[foggy nest]

then go down to the Networking tools part

near the bottom

[knotty spindle]

movee

moved

im at it

[foggy nest]

are you using ethernet or wifi

[naive python]

if ur using wifi emerge -av iwd

[knotty spindle]

mostly wifi but sometimes i do ethernet

[naive python]

rc-update add iwd default

[knotty spindle]

so both ig

[foggy nest]

should we get them to install networkmanager as well?

could be useful

[naive python]

sure

[knotty spindle]

alr

[sour sinew]

never had to not install it

[naive python]

but you dont have networkmanager and iwd at once right

so dont emerge iwd

[knotty spindle]

k

got it

so i emerge networkmanager

instead

?

[naive python]

yea

oh also

emerge -av gentoolkit

[knotty spindle]

alr

what does that do tho

[sour sinew]

install gentoolkit.

[knotty spindle]

what does gentoolkit do

[sour sinew]

wiki.gentoo.org would provides you that info

👀

[foggy nest]

tools that are usful for gentoo

[naive python]

it lets u equery uses

[knotty spindle]

ooo

[naive python]

and other stuff

[knotty spindle]

good thing im installing it now

and its done

anyway whats next

[foggy nest]

networkmanager as well?#

[knotty spindle]

so emerge -av networkmanager

[foggy nest]

yes

also rc-update add NetworkManager default

[sour sinew]

the openrc path uh

[foggy nest]

that's what they said they were using

[naive python]

you might also want to rc-update add dbus default

[knotty spindle]

damn network manager has alot of uh

packages

[naive python]

rc-update add elogind boot

because this is a desktop

[knotty spindle]

• rc-update: service `NetworkManager' does not exist

[sour sinew]

got atm 1198 packages on my system, it install what's is asked but mostly needed.

[naive python]

did u finish emerging networkmanager?

[sour sinew]

and since your install is basic, for now, you have to pull lots of deps.

specially with a desktop profile.

Already taking what's needed, when needed.

[naive python]

did he switch to a desktop profile but not pick a desktop tarball

[knotty spindle]

do i emerge --ask category/networkmanager instead

[knotty spindle]

i did get a stage 3 thingy but

[sour sinew]

dunno, wasn't here at the beginning.

[knotty spindle]

i think i forgot

[sour sinew]

so me shit.

takes notes, it's a good habits :)

[foggy nest]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-sol-sam-waterston-grace-and-frankie-stresesd-gif-17558058

[sour sinew]

on paper :P

[knotty spindle]

welp im dead 💀

[sour sinew]

nah.

worst case, you die, eh.

[visual marsh]

nope, you are just doing it the hard way

[knotty spindle]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[foggy nest]

can you ls /

[sour sinew]

the more you cry, the more the victory will be sweet.

and the less you'll pee your bed…

[knotty spindle]

(chroot) mint / # ls /
bin boot dev efi etc home index.html lib lib64 media mnt opt proc root run sbin stage3-amd64-openrc-20240514T170404Z.tar.xz sys tmp usr var

[sour sinew]

index.html.

:)

[foggy nest]

thank god

[sour sinew]

stage3-amd64-openrc-20240514T170404Z.tar.xz

[visual marsh]

ayyyy, we got a stagee

[foggy nest]

you do have a stage 3

[knotty spindle]

wait is that a tarball

[sour sinew]

let's dance then.

it's the stage3, compressed to tar.xz.

[visual marsh]

a compressed file

[visual marsh]

like a zip

[sour sinew]

it state a LOT of your future installation

[naive python]

he said wait

not what

[sour sinew]

openrc, amd64, the date…

[foggy nest]

what profile you on?

[sour sinew]

it's what you extracted, at first.

[naive python]

can you do an eselect profile show

[knotty spindle]

the default

[sour sinew]

eselect profile list | grep "*"

[foggy nest]

eselect profile list

[naive python]

eselect profile show

[sour sinew]

that's right

better than my «smart trick»

[knotty spindle]

[1] default/linux/amd64/17.1 (stable)
[2] default/linux/amd64/17.1/selinux (stable)
[3] default/linux/amd64/17.1/hardened (stable)
[4] default/linux/amd64/17.1/hardened/selinux (stable)
[5] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop (stable)
[6] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome (stable)
[7] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd/merged-usr (stable)
[8] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma (stable)
[9] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd/merged-usr (stable)
[10] default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/systemd/merged-usr (stable)
[11] default/linux/amd64/17.1/developer (exp)
[12] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib (stable)
[13] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib/hardened (stable)
[14] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib/hardened/selinux (stable)
[15] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib/systemd/merged-usr (dev)
[16] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib/systemd/selinux/merged-usr (exp)
[17] default/linux/amd64/17.1/systemd/merged-usr (stable)
[18] default/linux/amd64/17.1/systemd/selinux/merged-usr (exp)
[19] default/linux/amd64/17.1/clang (exp)
[20] default/linux/amd64/17.1/systemd/clang/merged-usr (exp)
[21] default/linux/amd64/23.0 (stable) *
[22] default/linux/amd64/23.0/systemd (stable)
[23] default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop (stable)

[foggy nest]

what desktop enviroment you want

[knotty spindle]

KDE plasma

[naive python]

dont change profiles in chroot

please

[knotty spindle]

i like it

[naive python]

please dont

do that post install

[knotty spindle]

k

[foggy nest]

oh

[naive python]

dont do eselect profile set inside chroot

[foggy nest]

i do that

woops

[visual marsh]

same

[naive python]

ur gonna kill ur usb if u update world

[knotty spindle]

what

[sour sinew]

you see, @knotty spindle, that's why wgetpaste is for.

[visual marsh]

my usb is a SSD :)

[naive python]

you will be compiling for centuries

in the livecd

[knotty spindle]

idk if my usb is an SSD

[foggy nest]

ok so

[visual marsh]

no

[knotty spindle]

its a cruzer blade

[sour sinew]

what am i reading

[foggy nest]

we're good to move on then

[knotty spindle]

okay

[foggy nest]

to the bootloader part

[knotty spindle]

so even if i installed and use kdeplasma and using the default profile it still works?

[naive python]

what bootloader u want

no

[foggy nest]

do grub

[knotty spindle]

GRUB i guess

[naive python]

change to kde profile after reboot

when ur done isntall

[knotty spindle]

okay

ima note that

[naive python]

systemd-boot might be faster but grub is good

[sour sinew]

GRUB is the safe and easy way.

[foggy nest]

grub is eaier to use

[sour sinew]

more support too.

[knotty spindle]

i use grub all the time

[visual marsh]

also it has pretty themes

[knotty spindle]

ive never used systemd

[visual marsh]

(just saying)

[knotty spindle]

so im just gnna go with GRUB since i trust it

[sour sinew]

long viva grub.

[naive python]

make sure to set grub targets in make.conf

or whatever

[knotty spindle]

okay how do i install grub

[sour sinew]

GRUB_PLATFORMS="efi-64"

to be correct.

wait !

show us your make.conf.

I'm the Gentoo police.

wgetpaste /etc/portage/make.conf

[naive python]

can you also send us an emerge --info

[sour sinew]

I don't trust you, young sir.

[knotty spindle]

https://bpa.st/7G5A

[sour sinew]

and use wgestpate as well for emerge --info, pleasce