#Josefa de Medeiros (18th century Portugal)

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having a missing book of marriage records is very fun please help me find her parents 😭

Name: Josefa de Medeiros
Sex: F

Date of Birth: unknown, prob early 1720s
Location of Birth: Matriz/São Sebastião parish in Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, Açores, Portugal

Spouse Name: João Carvalho
Date of Marriage: about 1746
Location of Marriage: Matriz/São Sebastião parish in Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, Açores, Portugal

Date of Death: unknown
Location of Death: ibid

Other Information:
I know of one son of her and João's, Manuel, and he is thus far the only son I've found in parish records for the city he's from, in all 3 parishes in the city of Ponta Delgada, for baptisms at least. the witness Pedro de Souza, from Matriz, in Manuel's marriage is PROBABLY related somehow?
I also found 1 more grandkid since typing this but unsure if will help

I am looking for / I need help with:
looking for any other children of hers, which I have been thusfar unsuccessful in, or finding any information stating a relative of her's or her husband's. Oh also finding either her or her husband's burial records-Josefa is not in one of the indexed books of burials as far as I saw, there's 5 more in the right timeframe that aren't indexed that I didn't look through yet, but also no guarantee she died in Matriz, or either of the other parishes in the city.

Sources:

  1. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-I-1584-1903/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-I-1584-1903_master/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-I-1584-1903_JPG/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-I-1738-1752_0013.jpg marriage listed in the index of the lost parish register book for marriages between 1739-52 in Matriz, Ponta Delgada.

I'm cutting this source list off between messages so i don't have it awkardly cut into the description of a record shhh

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  1. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1746-1750/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1746-1750_master/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1746-1750_JPG/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1746-1750_0101.jpg baptism of son Manuel, lists Manuel's father as from São José in the same city of Ponta Delgada, and Josepha de Medeyros as from this parish, Manuel's born the 28th of August 1748, baptized in the house of the midwife Catarina de Benavides, wife of José Marques, on the same day etcetc. Godfather was a Manuel da Costa, from this freguesia, witnesses are João de [what looks like Blr^a] and Lourenço de Arruda.

  2. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_master/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_JPG/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_0151.jpg marriage of said son Manuel.
    witnesses are Pedro de Souza, married, of the parish of Matrix, and João da Silva, married of this freguesia, both could not sign and left a mark. João da Silva is from the bride's parish so probably in Francisca's FAN club somehow, but Pedro de Sousa might be related to Manuel in some capacity?

either way though thank you whoever works on this!

sources on her grandkids too, note [the presumably same] Pedro de Sousa:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1767-1772/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1767-1772_master/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1767-1772_JPG/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1767-1772_0154.jpg
baptism of her grandson josé, states his father is from S. Seb and mother from S. Pedro, born on the thirteenth of oct 1769, baptized in Matriz on the 21st. of the same month, padrinho is Pedro de Souza, married, of this freguesia, etcetc. signed by Cura something Joze Jacome and by Andre Francisco da Roza

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  1. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1781-1792/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1781-1792_master/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1781-1792_JPG/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1781-1792_0167.jpg marriage of her grandson, states no impediment found, cura is João Francisco Rebello, cura of Matriz, lists Joze as son of Manoel de Medeyros, and his wife Francisca Xavier, and for Joaquina Roza she's listed as daughter of Ignacio de Souza and his wife Tereza de Jezus, both of this parish, etc etc, witnesses Vicente Joze de Sylva and Antonio de Souza, both married and of this parish.

edit: if pedro de souza married in matriz he is probably the one in the also missing marriage book, from tabulating all Pedro de Souzas in the parish 😭

I also found a second grandkid, a granddaughter, Maria Eugenia, who also moved to Bretanha like her brother Francisco, here's her marriage:
https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1829-1841/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1829-1841_master/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1829-1841_JPG/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1829-1841_0021.jpg
witnesses: Carlos Jacome Correia & João de Viveiros, Carlos's married, João's single, both of this parish. [groom is from another parish so unlikely to be related to him]
her and Antonio Carvalho I have found as godparents some in Bretanha, especially for kids of Francisco's, but did not find children of theirs.

https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1804-1807/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1804-1807_master/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1804-1807_JPG/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1804-1807_0018.jpg this baptism is prob Maria Eugenia's? if not is a sister's. I will note it gives the surname of the maternal grandfather wrong, it should be de Souza, as it's that in every record I've found so far, his dad used the surname de Souza Abóbora and mother do Rego, although to be fair he did have a paternal grandmother named Elena de Medeiros.

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Yeah I just copypasted my bw with no editing shush