#Having trouble with local play

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sleek ermine
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so i've been playimg mh4u with my friend through local play but the connection has been iffy
the first day we played together it worked perfectly. no connection problems whatsoever
now everytime we play we have to do about an hour of troubleshooting until we get a stable connection
Last night we tried for 4 hours and can barely even get into a quest
feels like we've tried everying
we even tried in differnet rooms
idk what the problem is and why it isn't working like that first day
idk if anyone has had issues with local play and got it to work consistenly but any helped would be appreciated

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i have a new 2ds xl and he has a 2ds if that changes anything

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we were only able to complete 1 hunt last night and that was when we went outside lmao

toxic gate
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Playing in same physical room?

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Local is ad hoc wifi. If your wifi environment is crowded on 2.4 ghz, you're not going to have good latency or comms speed

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Going outside would have brought you away from a cluster of noisy 2.4 ghz devices that you were time sharing the radio band with

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Wifi is a pain to troubleshoot connectivity

sleek ermine
toxic gate
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Then something is jamming your 2.4 ghz

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Or one of the devices is having wifi card trouble

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2.4 ghz is pretty crowded nowadays, especially if you.live in an apartment complex

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How many networks can your 3ds see?

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How many Bluetooth devices are around and turned on?

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All of that reduces speed on 2.4 ghz wifi

sleek ermine
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i see

toxic gate
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You can't exactly force your neighbors to turn all that off

sleek ermine
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it seems to work best at night usually after 9 pm so that's probably what it is

toxic gate
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If you're within range, you share time on the same channel. Two devices talking at once jam each other and the data corrupts

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More devices equals more chance of two choosing to talk at once

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Wired networking doesn't have this problem

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My old apartment had 70+ networks each on both bands in range of me, and I was on an outer corner

sleek ermine
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yeah whenever i connect any console to the internets a bunch of networks come up

toxic gate
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Wifi was super slow but powerline didn't like the electrical wiring

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Yeah, there's only like 3 actual channels that don't overlap on 2.4 ghz

sleek ermine
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so what do you suggest to try and get the best connection

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play outside probably?

toxic gate
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Nothing you can do but move out of the crowded space

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Radio is shared

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Anyone in your space is sharing the channel with you

sleek ermine
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yeah last night when we tried it were just stepped right outside the back door of the house

toxic gate
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3ds doesn't do ethernet

sleek ermine
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and it worked perfectly

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dunno fi that was a fluke or not

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when we came back in the house we disconnected

toxic gate
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So you're stuck dealing with the radio and sharing the channel. Yeah, you got out of range of whatever was jamming you

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Then went back into range

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You're trying to have a conversation in a crowded room

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Where everyone else is conversing

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Lots of having to repeat yourself

sleek ermine
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i'm curious what that is cuz sometimes it works perfectly in the house after 8:30-9:00 pm

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dunno if it's neightbors going to sleep or something in the house

toxic gate
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Probably because your neighbors go to bed and stop using devices to send a lot of data

sleek ermine
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i see

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last night we couldnt' get it to work at all so guess they all decided to stay up lmao

toxic gate
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I told you, two devices can't talk at once and be able to communicate

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They probably stop using devices then

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Or, a bunch of their devices decided to pull updates last night...

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Many things don't turn off now, just go into standby

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Tuesday and Thursday nights are popular patch times

sleek ermine
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yesterday was thursday...

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so that could've been it

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thanks for all the info

toxic gate
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Yeah, wifi sucks to have to deal with

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I wire in every device I can to not deal with this

sleek ermine
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wish this was like the gba where we could just link cable or something

toxic gate
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Else you have to live in a house far enough from neighbors

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Apartments suck for wifi

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Nintendo got rid of physical link cable ports as of the ds

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Wifi only, for various reasons

sleek ermine
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yeah

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Makes sense, just sucks

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thsi info was very helpful tho, so thanks again

toxic gate
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Yeah, wifi is better the fewer devices are in range

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It's why cfw wifi video streaming sucks on 3ds

sleek ermine
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update: we're playing rn and it's working good so ar

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it's morning time so most of the neighbors are probably at work

toxic gate
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That's a sure sign the wifi channel is over crowded

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Might be good to have a building talk and see what people can do to wire up things that are capable of such

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If maintenance put ethernet jacks in the walls to run to a switch...

sleek ermine
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one question, are there also any materials that could interefere with a connection? like if metal or glass is near?

toxic gate
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Only if between you like lead

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Anything that blocks that radio frequency

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Your issue is other signals on the same frequency drowning you out

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Microwaves emit a spectrum of radio that can include 2.4 ghz

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If any other 2.4 ghz device overlapping your channel talks, and another device talks at same time, the data from both is corrupted and needs to be resent

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Which means all devices wait a random amount of time to try again

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Happens too many times in a row and you disconnect

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More devices in the mix increases odds of it happening, which slows down the networks for everyone on that channel

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I could barely get 3 megabytes per second on the crowded 5 ghz at the old place

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Should have been capable of over 120

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That's what wifi congestion does to networks

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And you can't do much about it in crowded living spaces

sleek ermine
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i see

toxic gate
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Besides wire up every possible device you can to not crowd the wifi

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But everyone has to do that

sleek ermine
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just wanted to know if that was something i should also be weary of

toxic gate
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When wifi was new in the late 90s, we maybe had 1 or 2 devices each using it

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Now we have tens in a household, maybe over 100

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Weary is tired, wary is on guard

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Aware

sleek ermine
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yup

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i don't live in an apartment, but the neighbor's houses are fairly close by

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my switch can connect to my internet from my neighbor's yard

toxic gate
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Yeah, wifi covers a long range nowadays, so you're dealing with overlap

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We have enough devices even close houses have the problem, apartments are just worse

sleek ermine
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Makes sense

toxic gate
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I had a router that could cover an entire 24 unit condo building and the parking lot outside of it from one corner

sleek ermine
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gosh dang lmao

toxic gate
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4 floors and a hill yard