#Troubleshooting

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scarlet aurora
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anything you drop in terms of alcohol or some sort of cleaner on it will only help temporarily

dry wadi
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there is a video guide in #998610706133954830

surreal aurora
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Soldering and desoldering is fine by me, I'll take a look at resources

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Thanks, guys

night compass
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This is from a DMG LCD.

I know what I must do to fix it, but what type of wire is normally used as jumper wires for something this small?

Just wondering

night compass
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Never mind. I just realised how silly the question is.
Literally answered myself 😅

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Just a search away

nimble ibex
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Is there a company that sells remake shells of the Charizard and Venusaur GBA SP’s? I can’t find any on eBay. I’d like to get one of each, but not at $200 per shell. (Please ping for response)

nimble ibex
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Are there any wii experts here? My wii powers on and accepts/ejects discs, but it does not have any A/V output at all. Unfortunately, I haven’t tested if it receives signal from a remote yet.

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The A/V cord is new and has been tested. It’s hard to look at the pins for the A/V output because they are so long, but I cleaned what I could reach of them

scarlet aurora
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I think people might help in #off-topic, but this channel here is for Gameboy related troubleshooting

restive pasture
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Hey all, I've got this AGB I'm working on. At first it wouldn't turn on, and it turns out the switch just needed some cleaning. It boots and seems to run just fine. Visually there was only some minor corrosion in a couple places.

GBA games run fine, but this thing won't boot GB/GBC games. At first I thought it might be cart holder switch not engaging (and it still might be?) but I also noticed these oddities. I've never seen a bodge like this connecting CL1 to cart pin 31, and also R6 on the left is missing.

Any thoughts on what could be causing this to not boot in GB mode? Could anything going on in this image be an issue?

spare apex
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That’s a factory fix. Check the cart switch and that it’s switching to 5V, that’s the most likely cause IMO

restive pasture
dry wadi
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you cannot operate the switch while its on

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there are schematics pinned in #troubleshooting-archived

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regardless of motherboard version the circuit works the same. you can meter it out if its a bad switch

restive pasture
# dry wadi you cannot operate the switch while its on

Okay thanks for the info! I found this image, and found normal continuity between the blue line, but nothing between the red line.

EDIT:

I seem to have fixed the issue and this gameboy is running GBA/GB games just fine now. It looks like the C2, S2, C1, and S1 had some corrosion on them, and wicking away the solder and re-soldering the joints seems to have done a good job of fixing the issue.

naive ginkgo
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I made a thread, but was directed to post here. Long story short, I have a CGB-001 that has some REALLY stiff screws that won't budge. I have a small update from my thread. Two screws are now out. One came out easily, the second took some work. the rest will not budge at all. The screwdriver took my DMG-01 apart with ease, so I don't think it's my screwdriver, but I'm not an expert by any means, so I could be wrong. The gameboy color has some bad corrosion on the inside.

How can I get these stiff screws to turn?

spark pivot
naive ginkgo
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I apologize for them being slightly blurry. I have some reeeaallly shaky hands

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This is one of the screws I managed to get out

scarlet aurora
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downwards pressure and turn it slowly, if your screwdriver is good it should come out, unless there's something else going on that's holding the screw in place

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most of us recommend iFIxit Mako kits because they don't chip as easily, and after I bought it personally I found it much easier to remove these kinds of screws that are stuck or stripped

naive ginkgo
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I might have to try that

scarlet aurora
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using the right screwdriver size helps as well

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too small or too big and you risk chipping the screws and making it harder for yourself

naive ginkgo
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Good news: I got it open. Bad news: one of the inner screws is VERY HEAVILY corroded. How do I get this out?

proven gate
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Lots of vinegar? Although it looks like you've already got some bubbling there. Do you have fine-tipped needlenose pliers?

naive ginkgo
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I might. I'll see if I have any laying around. I'm working with a friend on it. He says it looks like someone's already tried doing work on it. It's got blue corrosion in the headphone port too.

proven gate
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Gotta be able to get a bite on it. Maybe poke into the center and see if there's any/enough metal left, to put an oversized Phillips bit into it.

neat linden
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If you fail to grip it

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Grind the head off, remove the board, then use pliers on the remaining stem

naive ginkgo
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Unfortunately, this one is a lost cause (at least to me). My friend is gonna trade me a working one to reshell. He does gameboy repair on streams, so he's gonna work on this.

The capacitor below that screw fell off. It had some corrosion around it too. I did manage to get the screw out by drilling into it until the head was gone.

There was also a bubble chipping off just next to the BT+ marking on the board, which had a motherlode of blue corrosion under it.

Thank you to all that offered your advice. 😄 I really appreciate it.

idle oriole
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Is there any issue with putting some solder at the very top of a cartridge pin to bridge a busted connection? I'm assuming the cart reader does not need to make contact with the entire length of the pin

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(I know it's tacky to take a phone picture of a screen but I only just got this microscope and I'm being lazy haha)

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Was planning on removing a little bit of the above solder mask and tape all the copper around it to avoid getting solder anywhere else and just make a small connection but wanted to make sure that wasn't a bad idea

neat linden
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You should be able to see the wear where the cart pins do touch

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Mask off that area, maybe an extra 0.5mm or so

idle oriole
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Thanks. Can't really see it on this cart but I grabbed a different cart and I can see the pattern if I catch the light just right

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That should give me enough space to do it. Thanks!

outer thistle
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I'm trying to find some rechargable AAA and AA 1.5v batteries but all I can seem to find online are bogus chinese brands that claim like 8000mAh from a AAA, any suggestions? I only need the batteries, not the chargers.

spare apex
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Fujitsu and Eneloop (Panasonic) have 900-950mAH AAAs but you’re not going to get 1.5V

outer thistle
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I was afraid of that since my GBP seems to only want to work off of 1.5v

proven gate
pulsar glen
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My potentiometer feels tight and gritty like it needs a lubricant after cleaning with 99 ipa. The same thing happens with power switches, why does this happen?

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Nobody ever talks about there being a lube in the switches and my ipa is fine

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am I the only one to notice this?

fathom heron
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for potentiometers I recommend buying some potentiometer cleaner. it's a spray that has IPA and some lubricant in it, sold specifically for potentiometers. Give it a small burst after cleaning it normally.

proven gate
sharp lava
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This new gameboy sp I got gets stuck on the launch screen. It never fades to the game. Any idea if this is fixable?

tropic obsidian
neat linden
sharp lava
pulsar glen
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It’s been a minute lmao

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But more than likely dirty cart pins or cart reader

sharp lava
spare apex
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what brikc said, clean your cartridge pins

sharp lava
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The game or the gba?

tropic obsidian
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Yes.

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It doesn’t make sense not to at least check both

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But if the Nintendo logo is garbled like that, the SP isn’t reading the cart properly and it’s not going to boot to the game.

sharp lava
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I’ve tried to different cartridges. Neither worked. I have another sp that they work on, so I mean… what would I have to do to clean the sp?

neat linden
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Search "how to clean cart pins Gameboy" on YouTube

sharp lava
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Sweet! Thank you! Looks simple enough

neat linden
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But like, I mean it; most specific tasks can be really google-able

sharp lava
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All good! I didn’t even think about google lol

pulsar glen
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So what exactly is the gba cartridge?

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I wasn’t able to find it scrolling up

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Nvm

naive ginkgo
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So, I decided to try to work on my GBC again (or at least look at it to see what's going on)

I was watching a video where the person took apart the power switch to clean out the corrosion. I noticed something because the plastic piece in mine fell out just before I watched the video.

Image 1 is what is shown in the video.
Image 2 is my plastic piece inside the power switch.

Could those missing connectors be why my gameboy color won't power on? Well, that and the corrosion

dry wadi
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yes you need a new switch now

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in my experience if the switch is in that condition, the rest of the board is not in good condition

naive ginkgo
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do you think there's a chance I can get this to turn on again if I replace the power switch? I've cleaned out a decent bit of corrosion that was bubbling up under the board, but some is stuck just a smidge away from the trace by the BT+ marking

dry wadi
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have you posted pics of your board anywhere

naive ginkgo
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I think so. let me look

dry wadi
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yes the corrosion is very bad on the few photos you posted

naive ginkgo
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These were before I really got into cleaning the board

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And this is one I just took

dry wadi
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yes its very bad

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hows the button side look

naive ginkgo
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I should probably mention that C38 fell off while I was cleaning it the other day

dry wadi
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this gonna give you audio problems

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this gonna give you screen problems

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this gonna give you power problems

hot hatch
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I assume the answer is the IPS screen is bad, but anyone ever had a problem with a thin black horizontal line in motion like this? (Near the center slightly down…I realize it’s faint and I probably have OCD)

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Might not show after discord compression.

hot hatch
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Looks like it mostly only shows up on moving green backgrounds, so Pokémon intro is very noticeable and walking around the overworld (but hard to get a picture). But games with different pallets you will barely notice it.

pulsar glen
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I can’t see it, I’m dumb though so

fathom heron
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I can't see it either

hot hatch
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Basically like a single line of the LCD is dead, but only on certain backgrounds.

pulsar glen
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Contact who you ordered from

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That should not happen

dry wadi
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is it an ITA kit

hot hatch
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IPS, the sellers technician though it could be too much OCA glue…said to try heating it with a hairdryer, but I would assume if it was caused by pressure it would always show.

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They did give me a partial refund though, it’s pretty minor and I kinda didn’t notice it for months.

fathom heron
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that line definitely isn't from too much OCA

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there's nothing you can do unfortunately. just hope it doesn't get worse with time

hot hatch
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Like a dead pixel line, but depends on the color which is weird.

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Next time I’ll add more games to cycle through during a dry run.

pulsar glen
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The pixels could be stuck as well. Also I bet you could still return it

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That’s something that is really hard to see

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you could make the argument you did test it but not with the games it shows

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Or I guess worst case try and get a replacement laminated screen part from them because I don’t think they are sold anywhere

hot hatch
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I think Makho mentions using a funnyplaying screen with the board, but I’ll have to go back through that video.

wicked shale
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Sorry for this dumb question but is this correct for the GBPP with lipo battery

dry wadi
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no

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meter it out

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also if thats afterdark its too thick for GBP shells. check your shell trim before you install

lucid gull
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@boreal aspen here

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You get VDD?

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On pin 1

boreal aspen
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I'm not in front of it right now, I gave up for the night to look at it with fresh eyes tomorrow

lucid gull
boreal aspen
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Using Tetris to test, it initiates the 2 player game to the setup screen, but the other system doesn't go in. If instead, press start on the other system it would send the Poco to the 2 player setup but then it locked up

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So I thought it was a SCK thing but it might be a logic level sync thing too

lucid gull
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I usually test with Pokémon shruge

boreal aspen
lucid gull
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It’s easy to find completed saves

nimble ibex
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GBA that I just got plays sound, but it’s very quiet. I’ve followed what I’ve seen on the internet and replaced the speaker, tried to clean the volume wheel, added solder to the tabs, and bridged some of the pins. It is still quiet. Should I just replace the volume wheel then?

dry wadi
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bridged what pins

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can you please post photos

nimble ibex
nimble ibex
dry wadi
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pin 3 and 2 of what

nimble ibex
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The GBA sound wheel

dry wadi
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as labeled on the board?

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and added solder to what tabs

nimble ibex
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As labeled on the board and added solder to each tab

fathom heron
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which component though? we are definitely going to need pics

nimble ibex
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Will send after work

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Im pretty new to this, so when stuff looks jank AF, please go easy

fathom heron
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that's fine - everyone starts somewhere with this stuff

fierce gust
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my gameboy advance ags-001 is displaying red on the screen instead of other colors and I am concerned as to what may have caused it and how to fix it

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perhaps a connection issue with the ribbon cable?

dry wadi
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any other information you can provide

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things youve done to it, troubleshooting steps youve done

fierce gust
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i opened it up to tighten the screw on the hinge cover

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and im currently reseating the ribbon cable

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i think that was the issue seems to look fine w/o a game

neat linden
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Pictures of the interior as well

fierce gust
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I think ive got it! i figured i would ask before doing anything incase it was drastic but reseating the cable did the trick!

nimble ibex
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Here’s the follow up picture to my problem. Please ping if you have an answer or request further inquiry. Also, please remember that I’m new to this and just trying stuff out on a “cheap” $30 motherboard.

mossy mirage
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If that's an aftermarket wheel, you have things backwards. The leftmost pin should be separate, and the remaining pins bridged in pairs of two

nimble ibex
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Sorry for ping

mossy mirage
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If it's original, you don't need any bridges

nimble ibex
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Well after all I did to it, the sound is still quiet. I was asking if I should replace the wheel or if the issue is likely somewhere else

open glade
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If it's original, remove the solder bridges

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The GBA indeed have a low volume on the speaker

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What you can try is to replace the electrolytic capacitor in the sound circuito. When this cap goes bad, the sound on the speaker go lower

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I don't remember which one is it for the GBA, but it's probably CP4, the one close to the volume wheel

lucid gull
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Have you tried froggo's suggestion of removing the bridge yet?

sharp lava
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I watched a video on how to replace ds lite hinges, and it seemed pretty straightforward. Is there any tips that anyone with experience has for it? I’ve never really taken apart a ds lol

dry wadi
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this is a game boy server, other consoles to #off-topic. the hinges are similar to SP try those videos

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we have a sister DS discord in #998610706133954830

nimble ibex
dry wadi
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AGBs are quieter than CGBs if you are comparing

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speakers require to be inside the shell to be at full volume

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the bridges are not required if that is the original wheel

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remove the bridges, check the volume with the speaker in the shell

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CP4 can be changed but there are signs for bad caps in #common-issues

nimble ibex
nimble ibex
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I can just order new capacitors and a new sound wheel, test out those, and move from there.

dry wadi
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there are no good aftermarket wheels. you can measure the range of the wheel. schematics are pinned in #troubleshooting-archived

nimble ibex
fathom heron
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from my experience I'm going to guess bad caps is the cause for this one

fathom heron
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bad capacitors

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these things

nimble ibex
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Ah Yeah, cap=capacitor

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They are cheap enough that I’ll just make the order from funny playing and try them out. I bought 2 broken GBAs for $40 and if this one works I’ll be happy with that. The other one I intend on removing the RAM and CPU for a motherboard swap. I got these to toy around with and learn from.

stray folio
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Anyone know if the boxy pixel SP battery will charge through the original SP charger?

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I'm having trouble charging with the usb-c board

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Results seem to be similar

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strange how it will power on and the charging light comes on but the battery doesn't charge regardless of the port I use

remote bobcat
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Does the charging light stay on when the charging cable is plugged in? Post some pictures of the board/install

stray folio
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The charging light does stay on

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please forgive my shabby work

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the headphone jack works perfectly

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the full charge light stays on and the charging light flashes rhythmically on the usb-c board. the original SP charging light stays on.

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aha so the same thing with the LEDs happens after desoldering the charging board

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my connection looks solid on the charging board. are there other points on the gba motherboard I can solder to for testing?

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still, strange that the SP charging light stays on 🤔

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I'm starting to think its an issue with the battery

remote bobcat
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The TP4056 is used as a pass through in the boxy pixel. How do you know the battery isn’t charging?

stray folio
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I left it plugged in over night and the battery strength indicator showed that it was still in the red. It also powers down when I try to load a large rom with an ezflash omega. It will sit in the menu for as long as I've left it powered on tho.

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also, the charging board indicates full charge whether or not its soldered to the motherboard

fathom heron
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measure the voltage of the battery after charging it for 30 minutes and let us know what you see

remote bobcat
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Red battery indicator is most likely a dirty power switch. Did you open it and clean it?

stray folio
stray folio
fathom heron
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you need a multimeter honestly

stray folio
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you're tellin me

fathom heron
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a cheap $10 one would be sufficient for the testing you would need to do for most mods

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I recommend you grab one urgently then we can continue to help you

stray folio
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I procured one with the utmost urgency and its reading 3.47 V right now. I'll report back in 30 minutes with the next reading

fathom heron
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OK from that we can confirm it isn't charging.

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So even if your power switch does need a clean, that isn't the cause of your issue. I recommend making a thread so we can deep dive and figure this out

stray folio
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I fixed it by swapping the motherboard

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kinda sorta fixed lol

small yacht
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Hey team, I have a few GBC boards (13 to be exact 😂) and 12 of them have low, buzzing or high pitch sound when theyre turned on

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Is there anything I can try before ordering (and waiting) for capacitors to arrive?

trim jolt
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clean the power switch

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or send them to me for disposal

proper oak
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Found this broken fake Pokemon cartridge, missing battery, and it seems like someone has tried to repair it.

trim jolt
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theres no battery because those carts dont need one

proper oak
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I think that's where the battery was connected

trim jolt
proper oak
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Isn't it? It looks perfect for a battery like this one

trim jolt
proper oak
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Oh, I tried clean it and , seems it just couldn't be read

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No logo or something and some pins looks like really damaged

trim jolt
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The cart looks to be in quite bad shape all together.. Blob carts has a tendency to fail but afaik theres no way to fix whats under the blob

proper oak
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I will try to reconnect those pins first

lucid gull
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This looks like they mounted the chip on a THT board lol

proper oak
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I think I should replace the volume wheel and cap, right?

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This AGB can hardly read GB cartridges, but it reads GBA cartridges perfectly fine.

proven gate
proper oak
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I think someone have done it before

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Well, I can give it a try

proven gate
proper oak
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it does get into GB mode but can't read it

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It looks ok I think?

neat linden
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Not that switch

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There's a tiny little switch in the cart reader itself

proven gate
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The left contact is discolored, but compared to others it looks fairly clean.

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I suggested he first clean/inspect power switch March

proper oak
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So I think the volume issue comes from somewhere else

proven gate
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May be worth reflowing volume wheel contacts.

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How do the cpu pins look? Any signs on the mobo of previous work/repair?

proper oak
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No changes

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CPU pins looks pretty clean

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The previous repairs seemed to only on the switch and battery contacts

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back of the reader doesn't look quite right

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I believe I saw some battery acid

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Just cleaned it

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Let's try read some gb cart

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Well still getting that black bar

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Is it time to order some volume wheels, right?

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That's much more painful than can't read GB games

remote bobcat
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#troubleshooting-archived message @proper oak

proper oak
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What should I do?

remote bobcat
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Do you have a multimeter?

proper oak
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I do

remote bobcat
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Check the voltage on C1/S1. Should be 3.3V

proper oak
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I'm not familiar with multimeter, what should I do? Now it is set to 20V, black is on com, and red is on V Ω

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Does the board need to be powered on?

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I turned it on,c1 c2 is 3.1, and s1 s2 is 1.6

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I just didn't see archived

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sorry

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After insert a gb cart c1 s1 give me 2 to 2.4

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s2 c1 is 3.9

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c2 s1 is 0

remote bobcat
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Sounds like the cart switch is working. Have you tested other GBA games?

proper oak
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All gba games work

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GB games got a gameboy logo but nintendo logo is a black bar

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sometimes it will be a broken nintendo logo

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Sometimes it get into menu but game won't work(white screen or freeze) (uncommon)

sharp lava
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If I’m cleaning a gba game’s board, is it safe to use isopropyl alcohol on all of it? Can I just use a toothbrush and (gently) go to town?

dry wadi
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dip the toothbrush into the isopropyl, dont drown the board

sharp lava
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Alrighty, will do

delicate locust
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I think this is the best place for it, Ive already cleaned the pins and it still wont boot on my SP or my DS lite. is it a lost cause trying to fix this cartridge with my limited skills? Should I start looking for someone who can? (Pokemon Ruby)

dry wadi
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i know what the listing says, but the same member is very capable of board swaps.

delicate locust
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Alright, thank you! Once I get paid I will definitely hit them up to see about a board swap

delicate locust
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actually quick question would it be cheaper to buy a new game or swap the board, I bought this without playing so Im not worried about losing Pokemon I love. Ive been trying to find a board to use for the swap but havent been super lucky (No I wasnt planning on doing it myself, I just wanted a price estimate haha)

boreal aspen
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swapping the board is almost definitely cheaper

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pokemon games are expensive

delicate locust
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Alright! Thanks so much!

nimble ibex
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Apparently I burnt TP2 while trying to apply the IPS mod to it. Can I do anything about this?

fathom heron
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if you look at the agb button nets in #troubleshooting-archived (pins) there is also a cpu pin you could solder to. however I'm not sure I'd advise soldering to the cpu if you managed to burn tp2

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you can probably scratch away the soldermask to expose what is left of the trace and go for that

nimble ibex
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I’ve scratched at it and think the majority trace was removed with some solder

fathom heron
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does your select button still work?

nimble ibex
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I’ll test it out real quick

nimble ibex
fathom heron
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you got lucky

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if im right, that teeny bit of metal on the right of tp2 is what's left of the trace, it runs down and completes the circuit to the select button

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how hot is your iron?

nimble ibex
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That’s probably the issue. It’s at 450 C

fathom heron
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um definitely no way, that's ridiculously hot!

nimble ibex
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It’s also a $20 iron

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I appreciate the help, I’m still learning and trying to figure this all out.

fathom heron
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that explains some of your issues. you need something with better temp control. if that cheap iron has temp control dial it down to 300C

boreal aspen
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300-350 is all you need

nimble ibex
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Done

fathom heron
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my immediate advice is, stop and make a troubleshooting thread asking for help on fixing this. because you risk losing your select button if you mess with what's left of tp2

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you could solder to the cpu (or expose trace near it) but I dont advise that unless you have more experience. someone may know where you can scratch soldermask to get a better place to solder to

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dont scratch anything else around tp2

nimble ibex
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It’s just the screen brightness, so I’m fine with shelving it for now

fathom heron
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Alright

nimble ibex
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Again, I appreciate the help. I’m new to this and I’m trying to learn.

fathom heron
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that's fine. everyone makes a mistake learning and you did the right thing asking for help

nimble ibex
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Is there a slight chance some kapton tape could work? At least until another option is offered

fathom heron
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you mean to cover up the burnt area to protect it from damage?

nimble ibex
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I mean to somehow connect the wire to the point

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But that works too

fathom heron
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no don't try to tape a wire there

nimble ibex
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I’ll tape it to cover the damage though

proper oak
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Is there a way to know if the dirty earphone jack is causing it

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This 2 will be connect if Headphone isn't plug

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I replaced the speaker and it's working but sound seems still quiet

proven roost
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Can a solder iron heating a point fry/destroy other surrounding connections like diodes etc?

proper oak
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Don't be too hot, and don't heating a point too long, you will be ok

proven roost
proper oak
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I am using a very cheap one, usually 250 degrees Celsius is enough

proven roost
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I use a pinecil and if 250 is enough to solder I may have burnt something trying to mod my gba. If it is anywhere under though the leaded solder wont melt.

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Fact the normal screen still runs fine, however, makes me think I did nothing wrong and one of the ribbon connector pins is bad. Is there any way to tell if a ribbon connector is bad or does that just mean the gba sp pcb is dead?

proper oak
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I'm not very familiar with sp, are you trying to ips mod it?

proven roost
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If you wanna see the primary issue check the troubleshooting post I made. Trying to deduce slowly what is causing the ips to not work. More than willing to provide more extensive pics to help sus out the issue.

sharp lava
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It never gave me the “won’t save” screen error, but it’s taking FOREVER to save. Is something still wrong?

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Nvm, just took forever

open glade
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Maybe a repro cartridge?

fathom heron
# sharp lava

yeah this screen is weird. Throw pics of your cart in #1013203552866414692

sharp lava
wicked shale
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Is this normal for a screen to flicker using 2x AAA? 🤔

fathom heron
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you know what im gonna say

wicked shale
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🤔 Im going be upset on myself if it’s really the power switch ..

lucid gull
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Is that a laminated cgs screen?

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Looks like it. Bucket Mouse and I found that full volume and brightness on the CGS screen causes that issue. It doesn’t happen with FP and Hispeedido kits.

wicked shale
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Yup cleaning the power switch didn’t solve the issue .. it doesn’t flicker when connected to the AC or when the batteries is fully charged ..
I do have laminated cgs screen is there anything fix ?

neat linden
#

How did you clean the switch, if you don't mind me asking

fathom heron
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not yet im fixin stuff

wicked shale
lucid gull
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I built that board, the power switch is always cleaned kekw1

wicked shale
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This one I solder the wire to the power switch label c

lucid gull
fathom heron
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hah interesting

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so cgs ips bad for poco

lucid gull
proven gate
# lucid gull

Is that a stock regulator or one of the updated ones?

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But then again, even the power adapter runs through the regulator, and Captain said it doesn't do that when on external power or fresh batteries. Hmmmm🤔🤔🤔

lucid gull
proven gate
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Yeah, I'm still not 100% up to speed on the gameboy alphabet soup. But I'm going to assume that means they aren't the originals.

lucid gull
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Not stock regulators

quartz zealot
#

Has anyone ever experienced this issue and knows what potential causes could be?

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Ribbon cable connector was reflowed. Known good screen. System sound works and afaik boots games

fathom heron
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Ah n/m your system does infact read games. so my suggestion was bunk

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inspect the board very carefully for corrosion/broken traces

small yacht
#

They're available locally so wouldnt have to wait for Aliexpress 😅

fathom heron
#

which cap are you replacing in which system?

boreal aspen
#

that would only work for c35 and it's not really recommended to replace aluminum electrolytics with tantalums

small yacht
#

I've got a whole pile of GBCs with audio issues but would like to replace all caps on the ones that need them

small yacht
lucid gull
fathom heron
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if you are desperate you can shoehorn in a through hole aluminium cap if you're careful to make it clear the case plastic

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but you'll be much happier if you do it properly

small yacht
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Only 14 colors and 2 pockets left to repair 😅

trim jolt
night compass
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Thks question might be silly, but I want to make sure that I'm doing it right.

I'm trying to check for continuity on a Pkmn Silver board, to confirm if there any broken tracks at all.

I know it's quite messy, but the stuff marked in blue have all been checked, vias and all. The stuff in pink are just a few I had issues with, which I'll reflow and check again, but that's not too important here.

Anyway, as for the question: For the components or tabs that are grounded, do I just check for continuity with the ground (GND) pin/gold finger and the side of the component that is grounded?

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excuse the diagram. I haven't got around to installing KiCad yet 😅

dry wadi
#

continuity to the edge connector ground

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fyi pin 31 is AUDIO and is typically not connected

night compass
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Thank you. I've managed to fix it now. It turned out to be two separate issues:

  • bad solder joints on the MBC3A chip
  • incorrect replacement capacitor (for C6) value

Just wanted to make sure everything else was alright.

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Also, out of curiosity, what is the capacitor C6 used for?

It boots without it, but I'm not sure if it's safe to run without it since a capacitor basically prevents DC from flowing through while allowing AC (like a filter?). I'm not very knowledgeable with electrical stuff 😅

edit: checked the datasheet and it goes to the Write Enable pin of the RAM chip (i.e. pin 27), and the other side is grounded.

haughty mica
#

is there a way to determine what vs of SP you have just by the board ?

boreal aspen
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Between 001 and 101? -the board is labeled AGS for 001, and AGT for 101

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That's a 101 board

haughty mica
#

oh i thought both were AGS my bad

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okay perfect thankyou 🙂

boreal aspen
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The sticker on the back will say AGS

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For both

haughty mica
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okay so I'm not going crazy phew haha

calm shore
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I'm having trouble fitting my GBxCart in this GBA cart shell. I believe it's a "high-quality" CGS shell from RGRS

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Sometimes I can get it to sorta fit, but most of the time it keep slanting like the first picture

scarlet aurora
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this part is the front of the shell?

calm shore
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No, it's the back

scarlet aurora
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are you placing the PCB like this?

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there's this cutout where it fits around the screw post

dry wadi
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the mold of the CGS high quality shells match OEM, there is more internal trimming that has to be done

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the gbxcart is designed for bootleg shells with less internal walls.

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keep trimming

scarlet aurora
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oh I see, that explains it then

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didn't think my shell wasn't OEM standard

calm shore
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Will the front part still go on if I trim the walls on the back?

dry wadi
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these walls

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you have to use them modding skills compare. i believe the top notch still engages

calm shore
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Alright I'll figure it out, thanks Mike

dry wadi
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trim little by little

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you dont have to trim too much iirc

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i boxed the whole side because i havent trimmed an OEM shell in a while. but there wasnt a lot to trim but iirc its mostly the bottom area

calm shore
#

Ok

dry wadi
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this area

scarlet aurora
#

this is how mine is, for reference

dry wadi
#

actually is your gbxcart a pro model? only pros fit in GBA shells

calm shore
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The RGRS listing said it was a pro

#

But it fits after trimming, so no worries there

proven gate
scarlet aurora
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for some aftermarket shells you don't need to trim, but apparently CGS shells require trimming

#

probably just filing those parts that mike pointed out a bit

proven gate
#

Since I got the pro directly through insidegadget and it came with the cart shell, I assumed it was a cart molded for it (including the usb-c access/opening). Not a big deal, just not what I expected. Pretty sure it was printed somewhere and my dumbass neglected to read🤪

dry wadi
#

its no ones fault. its just a quirk of GBA cart shells. we didnt have this problem before CGS cause all aftermarket GBA shells were the bootleg mold.

true meadow
#

Hey y’all, noob to modding GBs - I just installed a funnyplaying ips v3 and there’s a thin white vertical line at the very edge of the screen, is this typical or a sign I did something wrong and should I be worried about it getting worse? Sorry for the kinda blurry pic

stoic grove
#

Is that a laminated screen?

#

Is there any hope for this guy or is this a bonafide “parts” board? Practice board for a mgbc?

dry wadi
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fixable if you want to do trace repair

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its a small grouping of corrosion

stoic grove
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Thanks, I might. Would corrosion there prevent it from turning on? I’ve tested everything else and it seems OK besides this spot.

dry wadi
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yes it could. those are mostly display lines, but there could be corrosion under the CPU

lucid gull
#

I was going to say, a tooth brush and some IPA should clean that up pretty good and it might just work after.

true meadow
stoic grove
stoic grove
delicate locust
#

Hello!I recently bought a GBA and was testing it today before I mod it. It seems the start/select button isnt working, I was wondering if it was just a fluke or if theres something more going on? heres a picture of the board (EDIT: Tested again and its only start and select, everything else seems fine but I dont have a way to test the R button)

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by fluke I mean like, a membrane issue and not an issue with the board

delicate locust
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Update: I shouldve cleaned the contacts before saying anything 😔

stoic grove
#

All good, did you get it working?

delicate locust
#

Yep! Thanks for checking in!

clever totem
#

Does anyone have experience with the special Japanese tamagotchi game? Both of my copies have this issue where my save will end up corrupted - I think based on the timing and my tamo’s health it’s whenever the game tries to trigger the speaker.
The message reads 「データが不正です。」, or “the data is corrupted”

midnight quiver
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Hey guys I’m recently gotten into game boys then nodding them and now fixing them I have this game boy color that won’t turn on I’m cleaned the power switch and used a multi meter to test the connections from the better terminal to the power switch I will say I have no idea what I’m doing when using the multi meter any tip and I’ve tested the whole circuit board everything has a reading

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I’ve tested the screen too and it works

lucid gull
#

Did you check the fuses like I said?

midnight quiver
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yes\

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But not ive also never used a muti meter till now so not to sure if im using it correctly

boreal aspen
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put it in beep mode, put one probe on each side of the fuse

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if it beeps it's good

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if nothing happens it's a dead fuse

midnight quiver
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Which one is beep mode 😅

boreal aspen
#

I don't see a continuity on there, strange

lucid gull
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That should work

midnight quiver
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thats the one I used to test and numbers came up

boreal aspen
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yeah that's diode - so it should still work for most continuity purposes

midnight quiver
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002

boreal aspen
#

you could also put it to the one directly to the left of that and if you get a number then the fuse is good, if you get an overload then it's bad

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(the number should be 0 or close to it)

midnight quiver
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1.1

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01.1*

lucid gull
#

Also read your multimeter's manual if you don't know which setting does what

midnight quiver
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ive kinad tryed just a lil overwhelming

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but im sure ill get use to it over time

#

but the fuses seem good what would be the next step

boreal aspen
#

if I'm interpreting your reading right the fuse is reading 1.1 ohms which is fine

midnight quiver
#

yeah it reads the same on my working GB

remote bobcat
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#troubleshooting-archived message

boreal aspen
#

^ I was going to skip some of those steps, so just do those in order

midnight quiver
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Step 6 seems to be the problem

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Red on negative and black on 3

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What does it mean if nothing comes up

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What would be my next step*

dry wadi
#

is there continuity between 3-4 on the DC jack

remote bobcat
midnight quiver
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it reads a rumber then emediatly goes away

remote bobcat
#

What's the reading on Step 3 (Pins 2 & 3 of the DC jack)?

remote bobcat
# midnight quiver 01.7

Do you get continuity from the positive battery terminal to pin 1 of the dc/dc board with the switch in the on position?

scarlet aurora
#

Built a Skimzor poco, turning it on with no screen gets me sound and reads games, but whenever I plug the screen in there's no video and no sound, have you guys ever had this problem?

remote bobcat
#

Pictures of the install? Specifically the FCC

scarlet aurora
remote bobcat
#

Soldering looks clean. What about from the other side? I'm assuming that's the OEM connector? FFC connectors get a bit wonky if they're exposed to a lot of heat.

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Could be pins crossing and causing a short on the power rails.

scarlet aurora
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Really struggling to take a pic of it

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It does look a little "wavy"

remote bobcat
#

Yeah, I'm leaning towards the FFC connector as the issue. I'd recommend replacing it

scarlet aurora
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Damn, I do have a few coming on the mail already so at least there's that

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About the Power LED whats the correct orientation? Couldn't figure it out looking at the board

remote bobcat
scarlet aurora
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Oh nice, thanks a lot man!

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Gonna save this for later

boreal aspen
scarlet aurora
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yeah I tested it before

trim jolt
#

Ive had that exact issue. Turned out the power pins was shorting when connecting the screen because the connector had melted (yes yes i was stupid and learned not to heat it too much...)

#

Did you try a different screen kit, just to be sure?

scarlet aurora
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no, but I can try just a sec

trim jolt
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It doesnt exactly look melted from the pictures. Maybe theres flux on the inside? Did you try to clean it with ipa or do you have a ultra sonic cleaner?

scarlet aurora
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tried with IPA

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but yeah not very well

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don't have an ultrasonic unfortunately

trim jolt
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if you have a tooth brush, maybe you can clean the inside carefully

scarlet aurora
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I have one of those antistatic brushes

lucid gull
#

Poke around these pins to see if anything is loose

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Also let’s see that CPU!

trim jolt
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☝️ dis

scarlet aurora
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woo baby

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pressed down a little bit on the ffc connector and it's alive

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it was probably the "wavyness" on it that made some of the pins not make contact with the connector

lucid gull
#

Holding it down and reflowing often helps

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Floating pins are things I hate the most

scarlet aurora
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yeah it's still not consistent

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I'll probably replace the connector anyways

midnight quiver
scarlet aurora
#

the AAs I was using had a low charge as well, just realized it

remote bobcat
boreal aspen
scarlet aurora
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will do, gotta get it on my EZ Flash first

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seems good to me

midnight quiver
remote bobcat
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You have any way to hook up a power supply to the battery terminals to measure voltage? Something like a battery pack with alligator clips?

midnight quiver
remote bobcat
scarlet aurora
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Got a blue LED installed on my Skimzor PoCo but the LED only works with a multimeter, not when I turn on the console. What could cause the whole console to work except for the LED? (On a CGB)

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I soldered it with this polarity in mind #1006398521576005663 message

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Hmm D5 looks poorly soldered, I'll reflow it

boreal aspen
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I'd check the components around it like that

scarlet aurora
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There we go

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These diode smol pads sure hate getting tinned

shadow topaz
clever totem
# shadow topaz Following as mine is exactly the same. Game will work for about 24 hours and the...

On my Reddit post asking the same question someone did a good job of narrowing down the problem - the cart having to stay in a console to work put me off of further debugging the issue for now though. If you have a gameboy DMG (or advance maybe?) and want to see if that makes a difference let me know.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gameboy/comments/14xbj0v/tamagotchi_osucchi_to_mesucchi_having_saving/jrw3okp/?utm_source=share

haughty mica
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Is 300-350 Celsius the best temperature for soldering mods to gameboys ? Or what is recommended?

stoic grove
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Depends on the solder and iron and which tip you’re using 🤷‍♂️

haughty mica
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I have two option - peinsil and a Doss ZD8916ESD

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Both with fine tips

spare apex
#

it’s a good temperature range IME, I default to 320C and go lower for more fragile components like plastic connectors and higher for larger components like vias in a ground plane

keep in mind iron temperature is only one variable, the amount of heat energy it transfers and the temperature of the component and board matter more. and your iron’s thermistor isn’t a precision instrument anyway

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I use a J-tip which transfers more heat than the point of a fine conical tip but less than a big chisel tip for instance

haughty mica
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Oooo a j tip I may have to look into that thanks for your advise 🙂

fathom heron
#

J tip is very nice I swear by it

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use it myself for almost everything

proven gate
#

Standard Leaded solder has a transition temperature around 220C. I usually solder on gameboys between 240-300 C.

If you maintain the solder tip well, then higher temperatures aren't necessary (or advisable) until your soldering experience is sufficient to where you are capable of quickly and accurately soldering components.

analog grail
zenith marten
#

I found these gbaturbo 1.0.2 pcbs in a box that i forgot about and i could only finde documentation for the 1.0 version. It is probably the same but i cant read the silkscreen on the pcb. Anybody have the old repo or gerber so i could check the description?

stoic grove
#

Anyone have or know of a good resource on troubleshooting SP L+R buttons?

haughty mica
proven gate
haughty mica
#

im only really doing gameboy mods so defiantly nothing crazy

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should i get a smaller diameter solder ??

proven gate
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It depends on your comfort/ skill with soldering really. For context, ive been soldering for better part of 20 years now and the solder i have/use is .56mm and .38mm for smd soldering.

Smaller diameter you have to feed more, but it melts faster on contact. Soldering is all about heat transfer.
For general soldering, I would say between .5 mm and .4 mm would be a good starting point.

torn glen
#

what's the process like for replacing the cartridge slot on an og GBA? I recently purchased a cheap GBA with a replacement AGS-101 screen and it seems like the cartridge slot is completely dead... I was considering buying the FunnyPlaying replacement slot and trying to repair it myself but I'm not very skilled with soldering

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I was trying to mess with the pins to see if I could get it to read the cart but I think I may have just made it worse lol

mossy mirage
#

It can be tricky, especially if you don't have experience desoldering through hole stuff

spare apex
#

It’s not a beginner soldering task but I’ve seen some beginners do excellent work, I recommend wick+low melt solder over hot air if you attempt it. Or both

dry wadi
#

HDR has a decent method of just cutting all the pins from the plastic body and removing that first

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then you desolder the leftover pins

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but if you understand none of these words, i would highly recommend finding someone that can do this for you

stoic grove
#

Anyone know what the deal is with this ring inside of the polarizer burn? It seems like it casts “a shadow.”

haughty mica
#

i just found my old DS LITE and thinking i want to turn it into a macro as the top screen is dead

all the guides ive seen are using 1 x 330 Ohm Surface Mount Resistor

my local electronic shop has

330 Ohm 0.5 Watt Metal Film Resistors - Pack of 8
and
330 Ohm 1 Watt Carbon Film Resistors - Pack of 2

both under $1 does anyone know which would be best ?

spare apex
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both are rated higher than the SMD resistor

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get the smaller of the two, probably the 0.5W

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like physically smaller, want the shell to close

haughty mica
#

Awesome thankyou x

digital otter
#

finally got a multimeter
looks like only F2 was blown

digital otter
#

damb, $6.66 shipping, if this is the right piece, is there another place that could possibly be cheaper?

scarlet aurora
#

buy spare ones as well

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specially if you don't know what else is wrong

terse dew
#

the replacement is nice and simple and fuses don't care about polarity, so you just plop the new one in place of the old. if you're not comfortable working with SMD components you'll definitely want to get some practice in first though

hidden basalt
#

So like a dumbass I didn't even test my gbc before yeeting into a funnyplaying shell with a q5 laminated screen and it won't turn on or respond at all, how do I even behind to troubleshoot this now D:

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Wait oh now there's a red dot on the power led and nothing else, that's progress at least!

lucid gull
hidden basalt
#

I haven't, thanks, I'll do that tonight

stoic grove
#

So I’m assuming because I don’t have continuity from P00 to the via for right that I need to run a jumper wire—do y’all have recs for which wire to buy?

fathom heron
#

is the break just where the testpoint P00 is?

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looks like it yes

stoic grove
#

I think so, I have continuity from the pad to P00 but not past it

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Tried cleaning it, nothing still

fathom heron
#

expose a little of the copper to the left of P00, cut off a tiny piece of solid wire (or an offcut of a resistor lead you saved etc) and solder that across. you could probably do it with a solder blob if you wanted but a tiny piece of wire might lead to a neater (less tall) result
you'd finish it off with a very thin layer of uv mask if you wanted

fathom heron
#

^ this for sure

stoic grove
#

sorry, what do you mean to "meter" it?

fathom heron
#

double check with a multimeter to confirm exactly where the break is

stoic grove
#

Oh, yeah, I'm 99% sure it's there

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All the other pads have contuity to corresponding vias

fathom heron
#

ok, expose a tiny bit of copper and then meter between that and the via

stoic grove
#

Exactly

fathom heron
#

if you get continuity then you can bridge it

stoic grove
#

Should I just my fiberglass pen on that spot?

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use*

#

I think I'll need something harder...

fathom heron
#

you could but it might expose the ground plane a bit too unless it's a very fine one so I probably wouldn't

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do you have uv mask?

stoic grove
#

nope : (

fathom heron
#

ok, you can use kapton tape to mask off the ground plane if you expose too much to make soldering easier

stoic grove
#

Cool, yeah I have continuity right on the other side there. So just just drop like the tiniest amount of solder and then cover with kapton?

fathom heron
#

you could put a tiny square of kapton over once done, uv mask is better

stoic grove
#

Thanks, I'll do kapton for now and replace with the uv mask once I get it.

fathom heron
#

uv mask is great stuff, definitely get some

stoic grove
#

Sweet, that worked perfectly

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Thanks so much!

fathom heron
#

im glad to hear that zippleLove

stoic grove
#

I'm fixing this one up for a friend--she'll be stoked. I thought it was gonna just need a simple clean but it wasn't too much worse, which is cool.

nova nexus
#

hello guys, accidentally shoved some soldering lead onto one of the pins, any possible way to get it out?

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i tried heating then scrubbing it but to no avail

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okay so I got it working now. thanks everyone

fathom heron
#

@nova nexus even though you got your game working, understand that it's now permanently damaged. you cannot fully remove solder from the pin. the only fix is to transplant the chips to a replacement PCB.

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next time cover the contacts with kapton tape when soldering

nova nexus
fathom heron
#

the problem is the pin will oxidise and require constant cleaning. it can also transfer the oxidisation to the game connector in the console, meaning that you end up needing to clean that as well

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which game is it?

nova nexus
#

Pokemon ruby

nova nexus
fathom heron
#

no, you replace the PCB

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if you are in the US, imod.systems might be willing to help you if you cant do it

nova nexus
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Ahhh no i dont live there

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Also you said cleaning constantly so i was preferring for the in the meantime solution of cleaning with toothbrush + ipa combo

fathom heron
#

if you're desperate to keep using it like that you can keep cleaning it with IPA but you need to remove the board from the case, because translucent plastic can be damaged by IPA

nova nexus
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Or months idk

neat linden
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Not often

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Every few months or so

nova nexus
nova nexus
#

Any one have an idea as to why it still says battery run dry? apologies on the soldering i may not have the best soldering iron available

fathom heron
boreal aspen
#

its incredibly hard to see but, my assumption is one of 4 things: it's installed backwards, you inserted the battery incorrectly, you destroyed the battery holder or part of it in some way that renders it inoperative, or one of the pads under the solder is gone

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correction to the above - it could be 2 or more of those things as well

neat linden
#

With that solder job it could be one of many issues

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No way to diagnose the specific one without cleaning it up. If you don't have a soldering practice kit to practice on, consider sending it out for commission. imod.systems here takes cart commissions

nova nexus
nova nexus
# fathom heron

I did, the tip of my solder suddenly does not melt the lead when i tried it on the cart

boreal aspen
nova nexus
#

i'll find someone in our country to commision this for me, thanks a lot everyone 😄

fickle hare
#

where are you from?

nova nexus
fickle hare
#

unfortunately I can't help you there either

jovial nacelle
#

is that plastic melted? never used a battery holder so idk if that's normal or if it'll cause issues

fathom heron
#

the plastic is burnt, yes

lucid gull
#

Remove the entire thing, clean up everything and re-evaluate.

runic surge
#

hi guys! i have an old bootleg gba sp which powers on (charging light etc) but shows no screen display. what are the chances of this still working when i swap the screen? apart from that, i also bought 2 gbas to be modded and i have access to v1 and v2 pcb's for makho battery mod, which should i get, the v1 or the v2? unfortunately the seller does not sell the corresponding bracket so i need to solder it and fix it into place (loc is philippines)

proud pagoda
#

Stripped screw on the battery cover, any easy fix?

marble sail
#

Try a rubber band between the screw and driver.

proud pagoda
#

oh shit thats a really good idea

digital otter
#

that ain't good ain't it
possibly time for a new board?

#

yeah definitely
i fucked this shit up too much

marble sail
#

You might be able to glue it down with mask or some other high temp glue. But having it loose so close to the battery is probably asking for trouble.

lucid gull
#

I'd just get another board, desolder that one and solder the wires to that new one.

digital otter
#

i was thinking that, until i noticed this on my battery

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don't know the hell that happened but it sure doesn't look good

dry wadi
#

thats a lifted trace, i wouldnt take this any further

digital otter
#

so just get a new battery and board?

dry wadi
#

yes. if you would want to try to repair this, it would effectively be reverse engineering this board to repair the trace

#

while not shorting the thing out

digital otter
#

all right then, i figured

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i was having trouble with charging issues with my GBA SP and it had seemed to be my battery so i tried to redo the wires because i had to replace them before too

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but i'll just get the pre-assembled one and save myself the trouble lmao

#

thanks for the help ‼️

dry wadi
#

check with your local municipality on how to recycle those correctly. throwing them in the trash results in truck fires. its happened quite a lot recently.

digital otter
#

oh yeah, true

marble sail
digital otter
#

yop, i got that one from RGRS

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should be coming on saturday

runic surge
#

So err, is this a cartridge issue that needs battery replacement?

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It also cycles between green and red light, I'll assume it's a power button issue correct?

fathom heron
#

green/red flickering means a dirty power switch.
As for your error, no that's not a battery issue. It could be a bad EEPROM memory in the cartridge (or pins are loose and need reflowing) - does it ever get past that message and start working normally?

runic surge
#

Yea

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I managed to play but when I try to save it says that

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Also when I rebooted, it said save file been deleted

haughty mica
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can a dirty power switch on a GBASP case an IPS screen to have temperamental turn ons ?
sound works evey time

fathom heron
haughty mica
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Okay just a little dirty

runic surge
marble sail
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@compact flame

compact flame
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Yo

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I made a ticket in troubleshooting

hidden basalt
dry wadi
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did you test the kit outside of the shell

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and is this fully seated

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pinch the connector and the flex ribbon between your thumb and forefinger, do not press down on the panel

hidden basalt
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I didn't test it outside the kit because I'm dumb but also I'm not sure how you would do that. Do you just close the shell together with the ribbon cable poking out and then slot the batteries in?

dry wadi
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but its already installed

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did you check the connector

mystic bramble
dry wadi
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i spotted 2.7 on the driver board. 2.6 and later didnt need the power wire

nova nexus
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Did I put the orientation of my battery wrong? I just replaced it now it wont recognize the battery

scarlet aurora
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we usually don't recommend battery holders on GBA games, it makes the cart not close well

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and it's hard to tell from the picture, but the pads might not be making contact with the battery holder

nova nexus
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and thought "I should brush it with IPA and maybe replace the battery as well "

scarlet aurora
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wdym with the cart hangs, I don't understand

nova nexus
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the one where it makes unholy sounds when the cart is not working

scarlet aurora
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oh I see

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yeah it's probably cause it's not closing correctly

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I've had the same problem with a GBC cart, where since it doesn't close correctly sometimes the edge connector stops making contact with the cart reader slot

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but we can wait for the modders to chime in, I might be wrong

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most people will tell you to just use a CR1616 tabbed battery though

nova nexus
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i see,

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im trying to upload a couple of pictures

proven gate
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When you place your multimeter probes at the soldered battery holder tabs, is meter reading good voltage of the battery and the correct polarity?

nova nexus
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yup

proven gate
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Okay, then the answer to your original question is yes. orientation is correct.

nova nexus
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sorry, so the + is on the left side right?

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and the - is on the right?

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does it need to have the icon?

proven gate
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Yes and yes.

proven gate
nova nexus
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there are symbols on the battery right, do i need to orient them as well ?

proven gate
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That's not now button batteries work m8

scarlet aurora
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one side is + and the other is -

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the positive side has a + on it

proven gate
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The top side you are looking at, that is the + side. The side of the battery down towards PCB is the - side

boreal aspen
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the flat sides

proven gate
nova nexus
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i get it, thanks!

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hmmm it's not working. I'll check it some time later.

stoic grove
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I think you need more solder—with the battery tray bending that much to make contact with the traces your battery might not be making good contact with the tray.

lucid gull
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Do you still have a pad? 👀

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Ooh is that lead-free?

stoic grove
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looks like lead-free

scarlet aurora
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also looks like cold joints

stoic grove
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A veritable cornucopia of potential issues.

nova nexus
terse dew
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the exposed copper on the board that the solder sticks to. i'm reasonably sure you do otherwise it'd look different

nova nexus
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@terse dew @lucid gull @proven gate @scarlet aurora @stoic grove sorry for the tagging. just wanted to give you guys an update

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there were some black "something" in between the contacts of the positive part, we just cleaned that up, and added a pad on top to make sure it stays on contact with the positive and negative. and it works just fine

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also just wanted to ask if these are just on the polarizer film and can be fixed.

boreal aspen
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Looks a little like @torpid plaza 's alcohol damaged slate screen

terse dew
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yeah makes sense for that to be at the edges

nova nexus
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do I just replace the white film thingy inside?

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i have a donor part that I can take stuff of

dry wadi
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A demonstration on how to repair screen burns on a gameboy advance sp screen, by replacing the polarizing film. I will be using a screen from a gba sp ags 101 model.

Polarizing films I used- https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800639387963.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.25.6d1b677ff9TpHw&algo_pvid=544de0b1-a8a7-4d41-8305-0efb77b559e6&algo_exp_i...

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proceed at your risk

neat linden
nova nexus
fathom heron
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lol

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im sorry to hear that

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it's so easy to damage the ribbons

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Chicki if you attenpt this again you could hold the ribbon against the back of the panel using some kapton tape - just be very careful unpeeling it to avoid damage to the ribbon or display

nova nexus
fathom heron
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never apply tape to the back of the bare panels from cgs/etc (where you see a very thin white sheet on the back) as that rear panel is a very thin piece of plastic film but it's fine on the back of any screen with a metal cover plate etc

last bramble
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Fired up my gba today and when playing some Pokémon I noticed it was changing brightness any time I hit L/R. Opened it up to take a look and found this. Hoping that this board isn’t done for, it’s incredibly clean and in great shape otherwise. Can pads be repaired/replaced?

dry wadi
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does your select button still work otherwise

last bramble
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Yes

dry wadi
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so then you havent broken the signal path to the CPU

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you can resolder to TP3 but be careful

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this would change your brightness control to start + R/L

last bramble
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Ahh ok awesome that’ll work just as well. Thank you!

fossil scarab
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I just installed an IPS kit from funnyplaying into a gba sp, it works fine sometimes but sometimes when i power on the gba it just flickers for a second and goes black

dry wadi
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please post photos of the motherboard as well

fossil scarab
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okay

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one sec

dry wadi
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both sides please

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it doesnt have to be powered on

fossil scarab
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you know what

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i think it might just be a battery thing

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i left it to charge while i was away and it seems to be more consistant with turning on now

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is this normal for it to have trouble powering on on low battery?

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i am having a different issue with the screen though, the other display modea are not working

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1, 2 and 4 all look the same

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as in the standard look

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only mode 3, horizontal scan lines, is any different

fossil scarab
neat linden
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Have you desoldered and cleaned the power switch?

fossil scarab
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Now the screen is making a light clicking sound when I turn it on and not displaying an image, so you think something is shorting out?

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To clarify the sound is coming from the screen not from the speaker as it is not installed

fossil scarab
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Okay after some experimenting for some reason if I put a cart in and power it on I'll boot to the gameboy screen but it will have a weird pink squiggle under it and not start the game

fossil scarab
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The system still turns on like it'll even start the game I can tell.by the menu music

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The screen just loses power

dry wadi
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do you have a multimeter and know how to use it?

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can you measure resistance from pin 1 of the power switch to ground? the bare copper on the bottom of the cart slot side is ground

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these leads should also be clipped fully. they could short on things

fossil scarab
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It's weird it seems completely random whether it turns on

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Once it's actually on it works perfectly fkne

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I just have to flip the switch like 30 times until the screen decides to work

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Once the screen is on there are no more issues during play

dry wadi
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stop flicking it back and forth so quickly like your video

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im trying to figure out if your system is discharging correctly, but it seems like you have limited skills and tools. if you like, you can post a WTB in #1049401311101206649 and have someone repair it for you

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purple names have been vouched my admins and mods to have troubleshooting and repair skills.

fossil scarab
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It's only once the new screen is connected that it starts having issues

fossil scarab
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basically the console always turns on fine, i can here the audio from the game so the game is starting and everything

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it's just the screen that doesn't always power on

fossil scarab
dry wadi
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the only way to confirm the discharge circuit is with a multimeter

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it could also be a power issue, something to be confirmed with a multimeter

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could be as simple as needing a power switch clean, but with your soldering skills, it would be best done by someone else

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there is a video on how to clean the power switch in id:guide and pinned in #modding

fossil scarab
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it does not seem to have anny effect

fossil scarab
dry wadi
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please stop pinging me on replies

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how did you clean the power switch

fossil scarab
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i did the cleaning after i was having the issue already as a way to try and solve it, so that is not the cause of the problem

dry wadi
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the power switch looks quite undisturbed if you did open it up

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usually no start on reboot or no screen on boot is power switch issues or drain resistor R48 issues

fossil scarab
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when you say usually do you mean with a ips screen though or with regular screens, like i mentioned if i connect up the regular ags-001 screen it works just fine every time

dry wadi
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both but worse with IPS screens

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there is more in-rush on the IPS and more caps to discharge on an IPS

fossil scarab
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would i have to have that resistor replaced then?

dry wadi
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the resistor doesnt fail, but the circuit can get damaged and it becomes no longer in circuit

fossil scarab
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i see

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alright, i'll see if i can either buy or borrow from someone a multi meter. Is there a guide somewhere for how to test this specific component

dry wadi
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fossil scarab
dry wadi
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how are you measuring, can you try to take a photo

fossil scarab
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yeah one sec

dry wadi
fossil scarab
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yeah those are the two contacts im touching

dry wadi
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then the discharge circuit is in place

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power switch is cleaned and the wipers are lightly bent to make better contact?

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cleaned as in opened up and scrubbed

fossil scarab
fossil scarab
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Lightly scrubbed it with ipa and very lightly sanded the contacts a little

dry wadi
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what battery are you using

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how consistently does the no-screen happen

fossil scarab
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I've tried with both a stock battery and a shitty chinese 900mah one i got on amazon, the no-screen seems to come in waves, like sometimes it'll turn on fine 10 times in a row but then other time it will give me the no screen thing like 15 times in a row

dry wadi
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can you measure this voltage when the system is on

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and can you post a current photo of it as well lit as you can. if it is daylight, please take it to a window

fossil scarab
dry wadi
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with the system on

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meter in DC voltage mode

fossil scarab
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When I first touch it is higher but it begins to fall over time

dry wadi
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touching the gold squares correct?

fossil scarab
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yes

dry wadi
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and is the screen black?

fossil scarab
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yes

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but i get similar results even if the screen turns on

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in this video the screen is on displaying the gameboy logo

dry wadi
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sorry. misremembering things

fossil scarab
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it's alright man i appreciate you helping either way

dry wadi
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move the red there if you can get a black screen

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the one with the hole

fossil scarab
dry wadi
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screen is black?

fossil scarab
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yeah

dry wadi
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without continuing further, it seems like its not a system problem. do you have another SP to test to see if its a kit problem?

fossil scarab
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no i don't have another sp, im guessing it could be an issue with the ips screen since everything seems to work fine with the normal ags-001 screen

feral dome
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Hello everyone I made a post about this on the reddit but decided to come here for easier access on my end. I have a pokemon crystal cartridge that recently was taken into the shop I've gotten all my batteries replaced at and the game still will not save after getting the battery replaced.

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They tried a few batteries and none could get the game to consistently hold a save

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I don't personally own the gamebit to open these up yet but I had them open it for me today so I could get these pictures of the board

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There used to be a lot of dirt/corrosion on the backside of the board which was also cleaned up when they did the battery

remote bobcat
spare apex
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some of the vias and traces look corroded, it’s possible a connection was cut

feral dome
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Yeah the cartridge had a decent amount of corrosion on the back when I bought it so I had them clean it up as best they could

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But once my gamebit gets here I can always do more work myself

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I didn't check the battery with a meter since I didn't have mine with me when they opened it up again

remote bobcat
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What’s the voltage on the battery?

feral dome
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I can't open the cart back up till I get my own bit but it's a new battery because the old one was the original the game came with

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Luckily they didn't charge me for the battery replacement since they weren't successful even though they left a new battery and cleaned the board

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But other than not holding a save the game works perfectly fine

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Here I'll get a quick video of the save being reset on startup

remote bobcat
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The battery they put in could be dead

feral dome
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ill check it in a few days when my bit is here but the store owner who does these repairs said he went through like 3 different new batteries after I came back from the first one

remote bobcat
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Either way, you’ll need to open up the cart. Check the voltage on the battery. If it’s good, then check the voltage on the top right pin of the SRAM chip

wary crystal
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anyone know what this is called, and if there is a way to fix it easily?

mossy mirage
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Vertical lines. Can generally be fixed by running a soldering iron at lower temp along the ribbon. Plenty of videos on YouTube

wary crystal
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gotcha, I tried that fix a while ago but I might have been using too high of a temp

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thanks!

fathom heron
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it also helps to peel off that rubber strip on top of the ribbon if it's still there (carefully). dont heat with it there. send a pic if you are unsure

wary crystal
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not sure if I have time right now but maybe later!!

fathom heron
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sure!

fickle hare
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hold the soldering iron only briefly at the defective spot. even if the line is not immediately visible again, wait a moment until it cools down. only if the line still does not appear, hold the iron again at the defective spot.

wary crystal
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is this like a universal fix or will it sometimes not work?

remote bobcat
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You may have to work the iron over the spot a few times. Watch YouTube videos as well as what olDirdey says. Should be fixable but some lines may be stubborn. Just be patient and don’t overheat the ribbon

wary crystal
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alright

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going to fix this and then have the time of my life

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ty for the tips

mystic bramble
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Also sometimes using tweezers to apply pressure nearby as the solder under the ribbon is solidifying can help get those lines to reconnect

wary crystal
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I am running it at 230 C

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In videos the picture changes at least a tiny bit but nothing is happening for me

mystic bramble
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Hold it there for a second or two longer, to let the heat propogated inward a bit

wary crystal
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I nocites a clear plasticy frame over top of the ribbon cable, is that suppose to be there

lucid gull
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Cone👀

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Do you have a different tip?

wary crystal
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likely

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are you thinking a flat tip?

lucid gull
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Something that transfers more heat. I’d up the temp as well

stoic grove
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Chisel or knife tip at 450F should be plenty but yeah cone tip essentially useless for most GB projects.

tiny bane
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Hey guys just got my first job lot from Japan and was hoping to get a guidance on learning to solve issues with Gameboys :)

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The gba doesn't power on and both the gbc/p work fine but dont have functioning speakers

feral dome
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First things to check are the battery contacts in the GBA to make sure they aren't damaged or corroded. After that it's checking the board to make sure it's not damaged or corroded. For the GBCs, check the contacts for the speakers and replace with a new speaker is gonna probably be the easiest fix

fickle hare
fathom heron
calm shore
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I'm trying to install the FunnyPlaying MGB backlight kit, but after we've soldered the wire, the system turns off after being on for only a split second. The system turns on normally again if we re-connect the OEM screen. What could be the cause?

Below is a picture of the soldering work. Also of note is that we're powering the system with AAs and not AAAs, if that's relevant.

mossy mirage
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Could be a dirty power switch if it's especially bad

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How are you connecting the batteries?

calm shore
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Obviously we don't screw the shell in yet

mossy mirage
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Did you insulate the cart slot pins?

calm shore
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What do you mean?

mossy mirage
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The pins where the cart slot connects to the board -- they should be either insulated(with kapton tape) or trimmed, since they can contact the screen driver board when the Game Boy is assembled

calm shore
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I believe we separated the driver board from the slot pins with a plastic bag as a temporary measure. Should we put kapton tape on there instead?

mossy mirage
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Worth a shot. I'd also recommend posting full pictures of the board, front and back. Do you have a multimeter?

calm shore
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Yes, we have a multimeter

mossy mirage
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Use continuity mode to check for a short between pin 1 on the switch and ground

calm shore
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Alright, we'll try that. In the meantime, here's pictures of the board

lucid gull
mossy mirage
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You sure you're getting good contact on the batteries? Any chance you could try with a regular back and AAAs?

mossy mirage
calm shore
fathom heron
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please do clean the switch too, that has definitely not been opened.
that wont be the cause of the issues I think, but it will prevent further issues

calm shore
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Okay well whatever it was, we were able to brush it off

calm shore
mossy mirage
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Ground is all over. That big gold square in the bottom right of Zipplet's picture is ground

calm shore
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Ok

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So according to our multimeter there doesn't appear to be a short

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We'll try applying the kapton tape and report back

calm shore
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So it turns on when we use the original back shell. We suspect that the batteries are shorting something on the AA shell, since the latter shell leaves the board exposed.

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I tried covering that area of the board with kapton tape, but it doesn't appear to have an effect...

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Turns out the AAs we were using were just dead. I feel so stupid.

lucid gull
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It happens to the best of us

stoic grove
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Truly

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Me: “Why isn’t my system working anymore????”

Me to me: “did you turn the AA battery pack on?”

psy

scarlet aurora
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better to forget to turn it on than to forget to turn it off, with batteries inside of it

stoic grove
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I have also started a fire that way chefkiss

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Clips were touching and melted the case 😄

boreal aspen
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I blew a fuse yesterday testing with a power supply because I plugged it in with 12v

mild helm
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https://www.retromodding.com/products/game-boy-advance-sp-usb-charging-cable

Using one of these to charge my SP and it's taking a LONG time, i finally unplugged it after 13 hours and the charging light was still on. Is it more likely an issue with the cable, or the battery? Battery works fine otherwise

Retro Modding

Charge your Game Boy Advance SP through a wall adapter, car charger adapter, computer, or external battery pack with this USB charging cable. Allows you to charge your unit while playing.

fathom heron
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more likely an issue with the SP or battery rather than the cable

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what power supply did you use?

mild helm
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Dont have the exact model handy but it's an Anker powered usb hub

fathom heron
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alright. that wont be the issue imo. do you have a multimeter?

mild helm
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Yes

fathom heron
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remove the battery and measure the voltage please

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Also drop a picture of the battery here so we can see what you are using

mild helm
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Cant right this second but once im free I'll do both and update here

fathom heron
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👍 no worries

mild helm
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I bought it used and ive never actually opened it, so im curious if the battery is OEM

fathom heron
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if it is OEM then your issue is almost certainly a bad battery, but lets figure that out when you have time to open stuff up

mild helm
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Just gotta have breakfast + coffee first

mild helm
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Looks fine, not puffy

fathom heron
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thats an ancient OG OEM battery

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what does it read voltage wise right now? note that even if the voltage reads ok this does not mean the battery is ok, it might have high internal self discharge which would explain the charge not finishing

mild helm
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Dumb question cus i havent really used my multimeter much since i got it: these are the settings i should be using right?

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I cant get a pic while testing it but the voltage readout is 0.000 and...that dont seem right

fathom heron
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Wrong setting you have it set to AC volts. one more click to the right to get DC volts

mild helm
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Ahhhh ok

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Sec

fathom heron
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and you say it was on charge for 13 hours? that battery is defective

mild helm
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Yup, 13. Guess I'll get a mahko then

fathom heron
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Yeah. do that and let us know what happens 🙂

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please don't be tempted to leave it on charge to try to fix it. a battery that endlessly charges is dangerous

mild helm
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Noted.

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Guessing i should go ahead and dispose of it then

fathom heron
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Yep

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once you have a new battery, if you still suffer from charging issues let us know and we will help you figure it out

mild helm
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Will do. Is it worth keeping the oem one around until then just in case its not the battery?

fathom heron
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nope because it's ancient and needs replacing regardless

mild helm
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Cool, mahko it is. I think i asked this a while back but forgot the answer: does anyone sell the mahko batteries besides RGRS?

fathom heron
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Retro Game Repair Shop LLC

FunnyPlaying and Makho have joined forces to provide access to Makho's powerful MaxPlay Battery for Game Boy Advance SP, requiring no assembly and easily fitting into both FunnyPlaying and OEM GBA SP shells. This efficient battery is tested to provide 8-10 hours of uninterrupted gaming, even in modified consoles; optim

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that's based on makho's original design and you can also buy it from funnyplaying directly if you prefer

mild helm
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Yeah RGRS doesnt even have the mahko listed anymore

fathom heron
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aye

calm shore
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So my modded MGB that was working perfectly yesterday (as you can see in #gallery) suddenly won't turn on at all no matter what batteries I put in it. I can't seem to figure out why, but in case you guys have an idea, here's what my board currently looks like.

trim jolt
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have you checked anything yet?

stoic grove
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Fuses, continuity to and from power switch?

trim jolt
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like the fuse or the dcdc output

calm shore
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I can check both of those, let me find my dad's multimeter

stoic grove
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Oh yeah, sometimes these CGB power boards just... give up the ghost

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Oh but it's MGB nvm

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probably same situation

calm shore
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I'm not 100% sure how to use a multimeter...is this what the dial is supposed to be turned to for testing continuity?