🍁・general-2

[gusty ermine]

they usually dont teach it

[uncut lark]

F

[gusty ermine]

i learned about one in el salvador in a non-history class

it depends probably thi

[grim lava]

they dont teach it in history class. the only reason i knew about it was cuz of spanish class

[gusty ermine]

some places might be more woke but definitely the minority

[river ivy]

gotta keep people brainwashed

[uncut lark]

mind you the latest one was in 2009

[gusty ermine]

the US in general does not acknowledge its colonialism in the education system

[river ivy]

what about bolivia like last year tho cof cof

[uncut lark]

if you count bolivia the last one was in 201 9

[gusty ermine]

yea

[river ivy]

tfw the map says 2019 but no red in bolivia

[uncut lark]

[river ivy]

why the 2019 then

[uncut lark]

ni idea

prob cos it was the latest year they had data for so they put 2019 instead of -currently

[river ivy]

could have just said "since 1948"

anyway

[uncut lark]

South american history is very interesting tho id encourage y'all to search a bit more about ir

[river ivy]

change the topic

xd

[uncut lark]

ye

[grim lava]

[river ivy]

[uncut lark]

well deliburd what abt yu

why did u want to learn spanish

[grim lava]

mmmmmm

well, at first i didnt

[uncut lark]

[grim lava]

california requires hs students to go through a couple of years of foreign language classes (which suck)

and so that's what i did

[uncut lark]

tami university is free in uruguay right

[grim lava]

tami university

[uncut lark]

[grim lava]

commas, ouranos, commas

[uncut lark]

smh

[grim lava]

but then later on, i started to like it

[uncut lark]

if its not free im demanding they make it free

nice i took it in school too

[grim lava]

in my 4th year of learning i joined this server

[uncut lark]

it didnt suck but i didnt rly pay atention

[river ivy]

tami university is free in uruguay right
@uncut lark tami university
yes, the public one is free

[grim lava]

i didnt have a huge amount of motivation back then tbh

but it grew on me

one of the first ppl i met

[uncut lark]

i like how spanish sounds compared to french

[grim lava]

in this server, pupper, wonderful guy btw, played a large role in why im learning the rioplatense accent.

[uncut lark]

i started with Madrileño, then rioplatense, then colombian, then rioplatense, then i went a bit to Mexican and now its just a clusterfuck

[grim lava]

[uncut lark]

i have zheísmo tho since it sounds nice

[river ivy]

what's that

[uncut lark]

sheísmo only sometimes

zheismo is the uh

[grim lava]

zh for ll/y

[river ivy]

im always lost when they mention zh sound

idek what zh sound is

in my mind it's another sh

[grim lava]

sh but using your vocal cords

[uncut lark]

u know measure

the English word

its the su sound in measure

its similsr to Sh but voiced

usually softer too

[river ivy]

idk i feel like i could totally randomly use my vocal cords in a sh

same shit

[uncut lark]

its what they use in the rest of Argentina

[river ivy]

idk

[grim lava]

[river ivy]

voiced or not it's a difference so irrelevant to my spanish speaker brain i have to pay too much attention like "was it this or that????"

[grim lava]

i just noticed i use an awful lot of air even with the zh

[river ivy]

still idk if your audio was zh or sh

lmao

[grim lava]

[river ivy]

it's the same to me

[grim lava]

i did it three times

first was unvoiced, an sh

second and third were voiced, a zh

[river ivy]

hm

see now u said that i notice the difference

still i find it subtle and irrelevant to spanish

xd

like when u gringos start like "the e here sounds like blah blah"

[uncut lark]

yeah the difference isnt that big

[river ivy]

"and in this other word the e sound is totally different bc the nose blah blah"

[uncut lark]

it still sounds rioplatense to me no matter which one they use

lol

[river ivy]

and im like bruh i just made an e sound for all

[uncut lark]

but zh is also used in ecuador and Colombia

[grim lava]

[uncut lark]

so its not exclusive

[river ivy]

idk

i know they have weird sounds in some parts of bolivia

(?)

that's all

[uncut lark]

if your sh is soft its p much similar enough to zh

[river ivy]

idk

[uncut lark]

theres this argentine actress in a series im watching

she uses both

[river ivy]

tbh to me it's never that strong either

[uncut lark]

[river ivy]

unless you're overdoing it (?)

im pretty sure we all use both

[uncut lark]

what is (?)

is it a face

or a question

lmao

[grim lava]

from some research paper i found online months ago, i remember that they studied the age demographics of people who used sh and zh and in what proportions in buenos aires. and i believe it said younger people tend to use sh, some mix sh and zh, while older people lean a little towards using zh more.

[uncut lark]

ive seen (? but never (?)

[grim lava]

i didnt read much into it tho

[river ivy]

(? is a lazy (?)

[grim lava]

lol

[uncut lark]

also idk tf (? is meant to to look like it looks like someone smiling with those eye monocle glasses

[grim lava]

they arent faces

[uncut lark]

tf is it then

[river ivy]

they're actual things

aknowledged by the rae

[uncut lark]

oh

[river ivy]

actually i see them a lot in japanese

so they're not even a rae thing

[grim lava]

i remember myself asking this question 2 years ago when i first joined

it took me a while to get what it meant

idk how to explain it now, but ik how to use it and i do

even in english now

[river ivy]

this is from the rae

https://www.rae.es/dpd/interrogación

[uncut lark]

oh i thought it was a smily face lmao

[grim lava]

lol

[river ivy]

(!) isn't as common

but (? is literally the same, just that the person was too lazy to add )

[uncut lark]

my argentine friend always used (? and i knew what it meant but i always thought it was a dumb smiling person

lmao

[grim lava]

[uncut lark]

my mind is blown

[river ivy]

i find it so addictive ngl

i use it a lot

[grim lava]

i use it very ocassionally

[river ivy]

i thought it was totally an internet thing for several years

[grim lava]

its not just an internet thing?

[river ivy]

until i saw them in japanese and i was like bruh what

[grim lava]

[river ivy]

no but

i once saw some pic of some handwritting

from idk who

some author

i can't remember

and it had (?)

it was something very old

[grim lava]

lol

[uncut lark]

lmao my mind is just blown

[river ivy]

so it's not from the internet, and it's also not exclusive to spanish

[grim lava]

[uncut lark]

so it implies irony?

[river ivy]

it can be

it can also be insecurity

[uncut lark]

man thats useful and me thinking it was some dumb smily face

[river ivy]

sometimes u make an statement but you're like "haha i bet that sounded dumb, im not even that sure of my own words" so u just (?)

[uncut lark]

we tend to use ¿¿¿ for insecurity or disbelief here lmao

[grim lava]

so why'd you join this server at first trami? since ive joined, u've always like 99% of the time have spoken spanish in #🦎・ꜱᴘ∕avanzado

[uncut lark]

but only online

[grim lava]

where's here?

[uncut lark]

brazil

[grim lava]

ah

[uncut lark]

[river ivy]

sometimes it's bc you're saying something purposely silly and don't want it to be taken as serious words

[grim lava]

gosh darn it

i keep thinking ur an english native

[uncut lark]

tami secretly is a spanish teacher undercover

[grim lava]

cuz of the damn colors

[uncut lark]

[grim lava]

that's good tho

[river ivy]

so why'd you join this server at first trami? since ive joined, u've always like 99% of the time have spoken spanish in #🦎・ꜱᴘ∕avanzado
oh bruh that was more than 3 years ago

[grim lava]

that means u speak well enough to fool me

[uncut lark]

i lived abroad

my spoken accent is this weird english accent because of it

[grim lava]

ouranos has caught trami's go-to emoji

[uncut lark]

it sounds englisb enough but sometimes a bit foreign or american too

i did

its a good emoji

i have it in another server but dont use it much

[river ivy]

ok wtf discord didn't let me type

i had to refresh

[uncut lark]

well i do use it quite a bit

[grim lava]

u know, i feel like there is no equivalent to se me pegó

nothing sounds good

[uncut lark]

took me

glued me?

idk lol

[river ivy]

anyway i just got into duolingo bc i felt like learning shit and i ended up in the forums and liked the questions about languages xd

and at some point i found this server with all the languages server

and then i found this one

[grim lava]

i see

[river ivy]

and that's it

[uncut lark]

i went like

spanish learning server join

found this

and bam

[grim lava]

but in the end, u rarely speak english here

[uncut lark]

found a french one too but its ehhhhhhh

[grim lava]

but u do help out a lot

[uncut lark]

im procrastinating on french a lot

[river ivy]

i actually joined to help with the questions

but then the avanzado talk caught me

[grim lava]

ah, and u still do

i see

[uncut lark]

ngl i rly like this server

[river ivy]

i speak english more on other servers than here

[grim lava]

[uncut lark]

its a nice learning environment and every1 switches languages all the time

[grim lava]

i love how i can do that

[uncut lark]

i do that but if i do it for long my brain mixes em up

[grim lava]

claro

[river ivy]

also between duolingo and here i remember using something called lang8 or lang9 lmao i forgot

[grim lava]

[river ivy]

i think the site died

xd

[uncut lark]

f

[river ivy]

but u could make corrections

[grim lava]

never heard of it

[uncut lark]

i have this german language thing and it came with a website key

turns out the website died

[river ivy]

it was a site where u typed a text and natives could correct and suggest things

[grim lava]

ooh

[uncut lark]

i feel this server basically mashes duolingo hellotalk and italki

into a single thing lmao

and i like it

[grim lava]

bueno, me tengo que ir a cenar

chau guys

[uncut lark]

y yo a dormir

[river ivy]

cya

[grim lava]

que descanses

[river ivy]

oof i got hellotalk some months ago

never used it

f

i wanted to use it for japanese

but i suck at being productive

wow u left fast

[grim lava]

faster than usual eh

but im back now

[fallow dock]

estás espalda

[grim lava]

manu

[fallow dock]

[river ivy]

ya comiste?

[oak skiff]

comrade skeever

[grim lava]

sí

como rapidito

||no creo que sea sano||

[river ivy]

por qué decís tu propio nombre

[grim lava]

[gusty ermine]

do we have a politics channel?

im trying to learn more about what happened in Bolivia and i cant really find many good sources

i know its not great to ask on a discord server just kind of looking for a summary or smth to give me more to research

im also trying to find out why the US supported Áñez

like what are they trying to exploit here

@edgy quarry no te vas a creer lo que encontre

separate phoneme, and its merger with the combination /ni/. Consequently, many young
Argentinians do not distinguish between huraño [u'ɾaɲo] “unsociable” and uranio [u'ɾanjo]
“uranium”, and treat them as homophones (Colantoni & Hualde, 2013).```

oo interesante

@gusty ermine esto viene justo después

It is also relatively
common to hear the voiced labiodental fricative sound [v] as an allophone of /b/. Some speakers
use it in emphatic pronunciation, especially for words written with “v” (e.g., vida ['viða] “life”).

hablamos de esto el otro dia

[ashen mist]

nieri

[gusty ermine]

al toke ñery

do we have a politics channel?
@gusty ermine #sensitive_topics ?

yeah ill go there

[edgy quarry]

@edgy quarry no te vas a creer lo que encontre

separate phoneme, and its merger with the combination /ni/. Consequently, many young
Argentinians do not distinguish between huraño [u'ɾaɲo] “unsociable” and uranio [u'ɾanjo]
“uranium”, and treat them as homophones (Colantoni & Hualde, 2013).```

@gusty ermine Sí, alguien me lo comentó el otro día, creo.

[gusty ermine]

okay pero quiero que se escriban todas con 'ñ'

uraño

[edgy quarry]

No.

La ñ viene de nn, no de ni. >:v

[uncut lark]

it was me

i was in wikipedia looking for rioplatense stuff

the ñ/ni thing is meh

they sound similar enough

i didnt know bout the v thing tho

vida

i say v between vowels most of the time

but usually not at the beggining of words

[edgy quarry]

[gusty ermine]

@uncut lark qué hay de estudiar en buenos aires, pero mantener la residencia en montevideo, asi que desupues de cuatro años en la facu, solo hace falta un año para obtener la ciudadanía uruguaya

considerando lo facil que es cruzar la frontera

[uncut lark]

trust me its easy but the costs everyday

are ridiculous

if you buy like at the day its upwards of 200 usd

lmao

just like

live in buenos aires its cheaper anyways

also you can't get citizenship on a student visa

anywhere afaik

so just move to uruguay and work there for 5 years

or marry someone that'll do too

argentinas immigration laws are incredibly lax tho

2 years for citizenship and you don't need to be a legal immigrant

also cordoba >> buenos aires for studies

interesting

[river ivy]

[uncut lark]

i thought tuition in uruguay was like 1000 dollars but nah shits like 13k dollars for foreigners

[river ivy]

Tuition?

What's that

[lavish estuary]

La matrícula

[river ivy]

Pa qué

[lavish estuary]

University payment, fees paid for further education

[uncut lark]

yeah

it's not free for foreigners in Uruguay just Mercosur citizens

[lavish estuary]

Damn

[river ivy]

Hm? I've heard of people from outside mercosur coming here to study

Bc... It's free

[uncut lark]

[river ivy]

So i doubt they pay

Chileans come a lot

[uncut lark]

kala research it again

[river ivy]

I also heard about a spaniard

[uncut lark]

oh its free for Chile too

idk about Spaniards

[lavish estuary]

Malditos españoles

[uncut lark]

oh my I was looking at the Costa Rica University and apparently it's ranked 19th in Latin America

i thought it was gonna be 58th or something because costa rica is smol

[river ivy]

No idea

Ik ours always ranks like shit haha but idk if the fact that u can go and never finish the classes is an important detail

[uncut lark]

oh-

i think uruguay being tiny and unknown counts too

they factor stuff like relevance and how many foreign exchange students there are

how do u go and never finish it tho

[river ivy]

By not finishing

[uncut lark]

Udelar is the highest ranked one I think

[river ivy]

Yep it's the public one

[uncut lark]

the public one

there's only 1 right

[river ivy]

The only one yes

The others are all private

And paid

[uncut lark]

Cordoba ranks 31st

Buenos Aires ranks 8th

it used to be 1st

[river ivy]

Idk I don't trust those rankings

I like my udelar 😌

[uncut lark]

i dont trust em either the Rio one should be way lower

[ashen mist]

Acá tenés que vender un riñón y más para pagar por la universidad

[uncut lark]

nah acá es gratis

nah not na

[lavish estuary]

De donde eres ouranos?

[uncut lark]

soy de brasil

[lavish estuary]

Mirá

[uncut lark]

la salud es gratis tmb pero es una mierda

[lavish estuary]

Normal

[uncut lark]

la educación es buena

mejor que las privadas

[lavish estuary]

Fíjate

[uncut lark]

en que

[river ivy]

Acá igual, la udelar es mejor que las privadas

[uncut lark]

acá con excepción de las unis catolicas, las privadas son para si no tenés dinero

las catolicas son caras pero son muy buenas tmb

[river ivy]

No es contradictorio?

Xd

[uncut lark]

wait

not money

i meant if u dont have the brains

to pass the exams

[river ivy]

Ah

[uncut lark]

[river ivy]

Jajajajajjajaja

[uncut lark]

but some private ones are cheap like very bad ones lol

the most expensive private ones are somewhat good too

but those are thousands without a scholarship

[gusty ermine]

@uncut lark if i become argentinian citizen i have to renounce american one u said

i think it would be useful to have both

[uncut lark]

no you dont

argentina allows double citizenship

but you can only enter it with an argentine passport if you are a double citizen for some reason

almost all of south amrrica allows double citizenship lol

too many folk here have it

[gusty ermine]

ah okay

u or someone said otherwise

[uncut lark]

i said spain

[gusty ermine]

well anyway i cant figure it out but im pretty sure u have to be citizen of uruguay

or at least of mercosur

for it to be free

[uncut lark]

if you are from any of these countries you count as a citizen for most things on the rest

as a Brazilian for instance I can seek help or asylum in an Argentinean embassy

[gusty ermine]

yeah

as an estadounidense i can nothing 😭

[uncut lark]

so it doesnt really matter which citizenship you get

well you can study in the ones that are free for everyone

[gusty ermine]

tami dejame entrar

[uncut lark]

tami no lo deje entrar

[gusty ermine]

hablales con tu voz suave

[uncut lark]

imo the best to study as a foreigner is Argentina lmao

[gusty ermine]

yeah cheaper

[uncut lark]

1. no tuition fees
2. no national or general exam
3. cheap

4. universities have gotten worse but are generally good by LatAm standards

especially the UBA

[gusty ermine]

i wonder how hard acceptance is tho

[ashen mist]

lo peor acá es cuando gastás un dineral para obtener un título que jamás vas a usar

[uncut lark]

its much easier than brazil

lmao

theres no entrance exam

you have like this period where you do tests and like knowledge stuff and shit

and if you pass that u good

[gusty ermine]

lo peor acá es cuando gastás un dineral para obtener un título que jamás vas a usar
@ashen mist oh u mean what im gonna do?

😭 xD

[uncut lark]

[ashen mist]

ya elegiste tu carrera?

[uncut lark]

its free here and most degrees are highly sought after

[gusty ermine]

(linguistics)

[ashen mist]

si querés trabajar en ese campo, no veo ningún problema

[gusty ermine]

lo puedo hacer con ciencas de la computacion y seria mucho mas util

[uncut lark]

if you speak english in argentina its less of a diferential than in brazil or chile tho

most argentines speak decent english lol

[gusty ermine]

i mean prefiero espanol

[uncut lark]

a mi me gusta IT pero no sé nada de matematicas

[ashen mist]

no tenés que saber mucho de las matemáticas para trabajar en la informática

[uncut lark]

yeah but if u have English in like brazil or colombia

your job prospects are good

cos almost nobody speajs good englisn

especially in the countryside

[gusty ermine]

que hay de uruguay

[uncut lark]

uruguay is educated so i assume they have good english too

[gusty ermine]

puta educacion

al diablo con tu educacion

[uncut lark]

the less educated the country the more money a degree makes you

cough Brazil cough Bolivia

some degrees here get you minimum wage tho

but stuff like economics IT law medicine IR

those r all good

[gusty ermine]

is minimum wage high enough to live

[uncut lark]

no

[gusty ermine]

😔

[uncut lark]

its 250 US dollars

rent is like

200

[gusty ermine]

how much usd is 20rb

[uncut lark]

rb?

[gusty ermine]

real brasileno

[uncut lark]

its R$

20 BRL is like 4 dollars

it can buy you a burger

[gusty ermine]

or toothpaste segun vos!

[uncut lark]

71% lower purchasing power

[gusty ermine]

did u do thst cuz i live in ohio or is it a coincidence

[uncut lark]

I did it because you live in Ohio it usually compares it to NYC

[gusty ermine]

ah gotcha

i live in columbus nobody likes cinci

[uncut lark]

[gusty ermine]

lmao

[uncut lark]

mind you 477 is above national average since Sao Paulo is a wealthy city

most r like
350

lmao

[gusty ermine]

yeah if i save a decent amount i think it would be solid to survive in argentina for a while

so getting some kind of simple job on the side there would probably be enough

[uncut lark]

yeah

minimum wage in argentina is actually ptetty high in PPP terms

its just that outside argentina

its worth nothing

purchasing powerwise they are better off than Brazilians for now

[gusty ermine]

whats the comparison between brazil

1R$ to arg peso

[uncut lark]

1 BRL used to be 10 ARS

lemme check rn

[gusty ermine]

13.56 looks like

ARS

oof

[uncut lark]

13.61 here

It used to be 2 ARS lmaof

[gusty ermine]

and so thats like 17¢ usd

so .17USD = ~13.6 ARS i guess

[uncut lark]

yeah

argentina is full of brazilians paraguayans italians

[gusty ermine]

sip

[uncut lark]

so ((white)) foreigners are more common there

wtf higher purchasing power than Uruguay

anyways it's a cheap af city if you have dollars

and my favourite city

full of cafés and lil apartments and restaurants

a lot of operas palaces and some museums too

ive never been to cordoba but it seems nice

the architecture in buenos aires tho

[gusty ermine]

vera

te vemos tecleando

[ashen mist]

iba a decir algo

[uncut lark]

y porque no le dijiste

[gusty ermine]

decilo!

[uncut lark]

[ashen mist]

no me acuerdo

[uncut lark]

f

[gusty ermine]

sus

[uncut lark]

i absolutely adored buenos aires tho 10/10

[gusty ermine]

nice

[uncut lark]

never been to montevideo

but it seems nice too

[gusty ermine]

vera tenes vos ciudadania uruguaya

[ashen mist]

no

[grim lava]

[uncut lark]

you can just marry an uruguayan but like a fake marriage

[ashen mist]

ya estoy casado

[gusty ermine]

no cuenta ori

[uncut lark]

[ashen mist]

es mi hermana, no es mi esposa wtf lol

[grim lava]

[uncut lark]

wait are u 2 uruguayan-american?

[ashen mist]

no

[uncut lark]

why u have uruguay role then

[gusty ermine]

those exist?

[uncut lark]

[ashen mist]

es un misterio

[uncut lark]

[ashen mist]

anyway, ori es cordobesa

[uncut lark]

yo siempre confundo ori con la otra chica uruguaya

[gusty ermine]

tami?

[uncut lark]

no

la otra

[grim lava]

[uncut lark]

[gusty ermine]

alaska/gime?

[uncut lark]

creo que alaska

pero no me recuerdo exactamente

[ashen mist]

tf lol

[uncut lark]

i swear i'm not crazy

[ashen mist]

hoLA GURISES COMO ANDAN SHO SOY ALASKA Y ME SHAMO GIME

[uncut lark]

i

[gusty ermine]

eso

[uncut lark]

se usa gurí en rioplatense?

[ashen mist]

no sé si se usa en argentina pero en uruguay sí

[uncut lark]

hm interesante

[river ivy]

Can i ask where u found the tuition thing

I never heard of it

[river ivy]

[uncut lark]

i searched it and it says its free for citizens

but i never found the thing about it not being free for foreigners

[river ivy]

I can't find anything about the tuition either

https://udelar.edu.uy/portal/migrantes/

"en caso de que no reúnan la documentación para su inscripción, realizarán la misma con carácter provisorio por un plazo de un año, haciendo valer esta disposición." Hmmm

[uncut lark]

why except Brazil though

[river ivy]

Idk

Bc mercosur?

Xd

Well makes sense haha it's an official document, might as well have it in our language

Would u trust an official document in chinese if u don't know chinese?

[uncut lark]

makes sense

I guess the Brazil one is an exception because they must be automatically certified like other Mercosur countries are

well @gusty ermine i didnt find anything bout prices

it just says u need documents

[river ivy]

Yeah idk it's the only explanation i can think of for brazil

[gusty ermine]

yeah its hard to find

tami debe de saber

[river ivy]

Nani

[gusty ermine]

s-sabé cuanto cuesta o ya veras!

[grim lava]

[river ivy]

No sé ná

Cuánto cuesta qué

[uncut lark]

monterrey vs mexico city

[grim lava]

[uncut lark]

El portuñol riverense, también conocido como fronterizo, fronteiriço, riverense o misturado, es un dialecto del idioma portugués presente en la región fronteriza del norte del Uruguay y sur del Brasil. @river ivy it calls it portuñol but also calls it a portuguese dialect

[haughty sierra]

lmao

[river ivy]

why would it be a portuguese dialect when it's a mix of 2 languages

that's stupid

[thin copper]

[river ivy]

also that map is stupid

[uncut lark]

[river ivy]

the south east doesn't have the same spanish as those in the center wtf

[haughty sierra]

is espanglish a dialect of Spanish too

[uncut lark]

it's all a dialect of Latin

[haughty sierra]

big brain time

vulgar latin*

[uncut lark]

u calling me vulgar

its a joke i know what it means ok

[haughty sierra]

ofc

your name.is vulgar

[uncut lark]

its a planet

[haughty sierra]

a vulgar planet

[uncut lark]

gaseosa

[haughty sierra]

obvio xd refresco.es re neutro(?)

[uncut lark]

in Brazil we use sutiã, broche, brinco, piscina, pipoca and refri

[river ivy]

we say maíz too

[haughty sierra]

I can't believe yall use piscina

👀

[uncut lark]

y'all do not?

i thought it was the normal word in spanish

[river ivy]

who tf says falda here

[haughty sierra]

it is but not.in bs as

[uncut lark]

u telling me theres 500 ways to say pool too 😭

[haughty sierra]

we say pileta

[river ivy]

la pileta es pa lavar los platos

[haughty sierra]

nah apparently.just 3

la pileta es pa lavar los platos
@river ivy also that lol

[uncut lark]

no that's the pia

[haughty sierra]

they're homonyms in bs as

[uncut lark]

do y'all use sinks as your pools

just chillin in the sink

[haughty sierra]

lo que hace la.inflacion

[uncut lark]

lmao

[haughty sierra]

[river ivy]

xdddd

[uncut lark]

boniato

[haughty sierra]

lool

[river ivy]

cómo dicen soja en argentina?

[uncut lark]

soja

[haughty sierra]

soja

[river ivy]

xd

acá decimos soja y soya

[uncut lark]

soja here but it sounds like rioplatense soya

[haughty sierra]

🤔 aca no usamos.soya

[uncut lark]

[river ivy]

"batata" lo usamos para el dulce

no sé por qué

[uncut lark]

batata is potato here

batata-doce is sweet potato

[river ivy]

nadie le dice batata al boniato

[uncut lark]

lol

[river ivy]

pero sí decimos "dulce de batata"

en lugar de dulce de boniato

[haughty sierra]

para nosotros batata es el.dulce y la verdura

[river ivy]

hablo de literalmente el dulce

[uncut lark]

potato candy? tf

[river ivy]

hecho de boniato xd

no

candy no

[uncut lark]

we do not have a potato sweet here

[haughty sierra]

potato candy? tf
@uncut lark you never had sweet potato mermelade?

marmelade*

jam?

idk

[uncut lark]

wtf is this nestlé

no i've never heard of it

[haughty sierra]

that looks.like crema pastelera more than dulce tbh

[river ivy]

qué rico ponerle dulce de batata al pan

[haughty sierra]

esa es la que va

[uncut lark]

apparently we do

i've never ytasted this tho

lmao

[river ivy]

yo lo amo

[uncut lark]

it sounds good

but weird

[haughty sierra]

it's pretty great altho empalagoso

[uncut lark]

i've eaten sweet potato crisps tho

they were frm argentina

my whole family found them shit but me and my cousin liked them

[haughty sierra]

those are so.delicious

[uncut lark]

my ucle would disagree

💀

he said its horrible

[river ivy]

xddd

[haughty sierra]

honestly it's.not for.everyone

oh yeah con chocolate

mi gorda interior feliz

[river ivy]

batacho

[uncut lark]

tenemos dulce de calabaza aquí

[haughty sierra]

I've never had that 🤔

[uncut lark]

its basically a block of sweet pumpkin

[haughty sierra]

that looks amazing ngl

[river ivy]

Nunca probé una calabaza

Son re raras

[uncut lark]

how come 👀

son deliciosas

[haughty sierra]

para, ustedes tambien distinguen calabaza de zapallo?

[uncut lark]

do y'all sell this shit down there

[river ivy]

No son comunes acá, no las ves seguido

[uncut lark]

if not y'all missing on some good stuff

[river ivy]

Keseso

[haughty sierra]

what is that

[uncut lark]

its peanut sweets

paçoca

[river ivy]

Npi

Biba el mantecol

[haughty sierra]

sabeeeee

[river ivy]

Seguro es más rico

[haughty sierra]

mantecol 4life

[uncut lark]

mhm it looks good

next time im on argentina m buying it

i assume you also do not have sugarcane juice

[river ivy]

Está muy weno

[uncut lark]

[haughty sierra]

na

[river ivy]

Nani

[uncut lark]

its good

but too sweet

extremely sweet at times lmao

[river ivy]

Npi

[haughty sierra]

I only know about it bcs of people I know who've gone to Brazil.lol

[uncut lark]

did they like it

i like it but only a small bit

[river ivy]

Yo no sé ná

[uncut lark]

[haughty sierra]

they found it too sweet

empalagoso

[uncut lark]

sip

[haughty sierra]

idk how to say empalagoso en ingles akdha

[river ivy]

Yo tampoco

[uncut lark]

i know what y'all mean but i dont know the translation either lmao

"cloying"

apparently

tf is cloying

[haughty sierra]

first time I hear thay

that* why does my keyboard betray me

[uncut lark]

cloying, mawkish, saccharine, sickish

[river ivy]

Idk

[uncut lark]

s i c k i s h

[haughty sierra]

saccharine sacarina

weird cognate

[river ivy]

[uncut lark]

i look up uruguay news stuff and

[river ivy]

[haughty sierra]

lol yeah a lot of porteños are moving to uruguay

because the economy is better and if you have dollars, you can take them out there

some people have bank.accounts in Uruguay just so they can take dollars out

[river ivy]

Still the ones coming are the ones with money

[uncut lark]

yeah

the poor ones cant afford to move

[river ivy]

Nor live xd

[uncut lark]

f

[warm geyser]

SUP

[junior reef]

Eyyyyy

[warm geyser]

anyway i speak with the thickest Louisiana accent you will ever hear when i speak to family

otherwise i have a general american accent

maybe like a "basic texas" accent

[junior reef]

@.@ Texan accent sounds kewl.

[warm geyser]

its neat

[haughty sierra]

so to whoever wanted to learn Chilean, go ahead and consume material from Chile. Literally nobody will laugh unless they're an asshole or they're amused because you didn't go with Mexican or European

it's not quite the same as speaking with a Mississipi accent

[warm geyser]

texan is like general american but we say y'all and have weird vowels sometimes

ive gathered that a Chilean accent is quite distinct

[swift cliff]

So many dialects drop the s's in spanish and that doesn't give me any problems.. its something else with it that makes it hard to understand

[junior reef]

What else about it?

Apio said the slang was rampant.

[swift cliff]

Kinda just sounds rougher and smooshed together

less effort to say each syllable

[haughty sierra]

So many dialects drop the s's in spanish and that doesn't give me any problems.. its something else with it that makes it hard to understand
@swift cliff you mean aspiration? or outright dropping it like in Central America

[junior reef]

like slurred?

[swift cliff]

@swift cliff you mean aspiration? or outright dropping it like in Central America
@haughty sierra Not really sure what the difference is but I when I talk with a lot of my venezuelan friends the s is absent in so many words and same with a lot of coastal ecuadorian accents

vamo a ver

like that

[haughty sierra]

oh yeah that's dropping

because like in some dialects we aspire the S, so instead of mosca we'll say mojca

[swift cliff]

like slurred?
@junior reef yeah chilean sounds like everyone is slurring/mumbling to me lol

[haughty sierra]

but yeah that can be hard to grasp sometimes

vamo a verno

[swift cliff]

Ya, one of my first friends I made is from caracas and speaks like that so I got used to it really quick and it doesn't trip me up at all

I kinda like it

it sounds cool to me

pero me daria pena hablar asi jajaj

porque no es natural para mi

[haughty sierra]

entiendo jaja, tiene sentido

yo a veces me como la S pero solo cuando hablo muy rápido y en situaciones informales

me sentiría fuera de lugar si lo hago en una situación formal

[swift cliff]

Jajaja sii, por eso siento la necesidad de aprender todo de la manera neutral y formal para nunca avergonzarme sin saber jaja

[haughty sierra]

me parece bien, better safe than sorry jaja

[ashen mist]

Me siento raro si no aspiro la s antes de una consonante

[past harbor]

una consonante

[uncut lark]

yo a veces me como la S pero solo cuando hablo muy rápido y en situaciones informales
.

pero cuando quiero hablar formal mantengolas todas quiźa con excepción de /sc/ /sp/ /st/

[uncut lark]

@edgy quarry well in Portuguese it seems like marriage is forever a part of you

[edgy quarry]

You can say the same in Castilian.

So... "soy casado" is valid. :v

[uncut lark]

Estou casado is valid here too but not as common

[edgy quarry]

The opposite happens here.

[uncut lark]

[edgy quarry]

[past harbor]

😮

[uncut lark]

oh yeah this too

but ficar is only used in very specific contexts afaik

[edgy quarry]

"Quedar" in Castilian may be used the same way.

[uncut lark]

I assume Galician uses the copulas the same way as Spanish

[edgy quarry]

"Copulas"?

[uncut lark]

copulas = ser, estar

[edgy quarry]

Oh, copulative verbs.

[uncut lark]

copulas

[edgy quarry]

I think so, never heard "ficar" in Galician.

[uncut lark]

me neither lol

[edgy quarry]

But might exist, lemme see.

Oh, it's literary.

[uncut lark]

but ficar may be replaced by any of them in that context here

wait ser not so much

But O Rio está no Brasil

is common too lol

[edgy quarry]

Same in Castilian.

[uncut lark]

Brasília é no Brasil is right too I think but less common

especially with place names that have articles

O Rio, O Recife, etc.

Do place names take articles in Sp?

Some do some don't here

[edgy quarry]

I think you can use "ser" if you're asking about the location. (?)

Same here.

[uncut lark]

Rio can be with O or without depending on the phrase

but usually o Rio + do, no, p'r'o (para o but nobody says or writes it informally its pro)

but para o is also weird in writing so I usualy use ao

[edgy quarry]

Sry, @uncut lark, I'm back.

[uncut lark]

[edgy quarry]

I also use "ao" rather than "para o" in Galician. xD

[uncut lark]

para o sounds ugly

I say/write informally "pro" tho

[edgy quarry]

"Pra o", if anything. (?)

Oh, pro. :O

[uncut lark]

pro, pra

[edgy quarry]

That sounds so Latin. Hahaha

[uncut lark]

for some reason its wrong even tho 100%of people say it like that

even in syllable-timed accents, its still pro

[edgy quarry]

[uncut lark]

i had no idea galician had ao too

[edgy quarry]

It does, but "ó" is preferred.

[uncut lark]

ó?

ó here is oh

like the church exclamation thing

oooooh god

lmao

[edgy quarry]

Lmao

We don't have "pro/pra" either. :v

[uncut lark]

does Galicia use the based roman god weekdays

or the boring portuguese ones

second third fourth fifth and sixth

[edgy quarry]

The based ones.

I still don't understand yours. xD

[uncut lark]

portuguese did too but some guy thought it was unchristian

[edgy quarry]

Distinctive, but weird.

[uncut lark]

i hate them

its boring like

the second

at least we kept sábado and domingo

[edgy quarry]

Yeah, because they're the Judeochristian ones. xD

[uncut lark]

ngl i still have no idea of how the spanish and french one work

i think its lunes martes miércoles viernes and jueves??

but idk

[edgy quarry]

"Jueves" and "viernes"*.

[uncut lark]

see

im used to my dumb ones

[edgy quarry]

Lol

[uncut lark]

segunda-feira, terça-feira, quarta-feira, quinta-feira and sexta-feira

but -feira is dropped most of the time

[edgy quarry]

Actually...

"Lunes" does sound like Monday. :v

[uncut lark]

they both mean moon

it makes no sense it should be by planetary order

miercoles viernes lunes martes jueves

[edgy quarry]

Oh, God.

You literally made it even more based.

[uncut lark]

i was listening to andalusian music and i like how they say es as é

[edgy quarry]

Very Galician.

[uncut lark]

andalusian spanish has just so much features portuguese also does lmao, but they speak so fast and weird

that we cant understand

[edgy quarry]

Actually.

Lisboan Portuguese is the Andalusian version of Portuguese.

So weird.

[uncut lark]

it's the least weird euro one to me

[edgy quarry]

Nobody understands it.

[uncut lark]

[edgy quarry]

Is it?

[uncut lark]

its the one i understand the most

[edgy quarry]

Lol

[uncut lark]

lmao

might be because i'm from rio

[edgy quarry]

Northern Portuguese is the best.

[uncut lark]

no

it sounds weird

and vulgar

[edgy quarry]

It's basically Galician.

[uncut lark]

Brazilian Portuguese was supposed to be descended from it

but besides the nasals it sounds nothing like it lmao

[edgy quarry]

Yeah, you said that yesterday. :v

[uncut lark]

[edgy quarry]

I still have to hear you speaking it. ewe

[uncut lark]

it doesnt sound like the algarve either

algarve is even weirder

[edgy quarry]

Is it? Lmao

[uncut lark]

some based andalusian version of portuguese full of arabic words and weird vowels

[edgy quarry]

Gotta give it a check later.

:OOO

[uncut lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CER_gX7NKek&ab_channel=LucianoPedro

it how the woman at 4:20 speaks

lol

[edgy quarry]

I'll watch it later. -w-

And send you another one in exchange. (?)

[uncut lark]

i cant understand like 30% of it

[past harbor]

Vergonya

Eso es catalán!

[edgy quarry]

Vergonha*.

[uncut lark]

vergonha here

[edgy quarry]

:vvv

[past harbor]

Tsk

[uncut lark]

[past harbor]

No sé nada de portugués

pero si lo aprendiera, sería fácil 🤔

[uncut lark]

suena más como catalá que español lol