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abstract scaffold
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so your particular soln would be:

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=tex y = 2cos(x) - 1

rotund pawnBOT
abstract scaffold
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you can quickly verify that indeed y(0) = 1 there

abstract scaffold
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@median trail en cualquier tiempo que no sabes si es el caso positivo o negativo... solo tienes que sustituir los valores en la ecuacion original (la del valor absoluto)
|y| = 2cosx - 2c
y(0) = 1
|1| = 2cos(0) - 2c
-2c = -1 {only one constant solution, no other constant solution}
=> |y| = 2cosx - 1
but because it has to pass through (0,1), the absolute value is redundant.
y = 2cosx - 1 (with some domain restrictions)

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my tip is don't bother simplifying... once you have "some sort of general soln" and initial conditions... sub in the initial conditions as soon as you are able to. This way you won't have to worry about "2 constants"

exotic kiteBOT
abstract scaffold
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simplifying comes after finding that constant.

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=wolf graph |y| = 2cos(x) - 1

rotund pawnBOT
median trail
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ohhhh so you mean like substituting in the general solution that has the abs values, right? okay and if I'm asked to find the solution interval, should I do it using the general solution with the c I found?

abstract scaffold
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ohhhh so you mean like substituting in the general solution that has the abs values, right? - yes

okay and if I'm asked to find the solution interval, should I do it using the general solution with the c I found? - could you elaborate?

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like |y| = 2cos(x) - 1
since y >= 0
we get
y = 2cos(x) - 1... but looking at our original function with |y|... for example x \in (pi/3, 2pi - pi/3) are not included in the final solution

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essentially we only include the top part of the function rather than reflected part due to the initial conditions.

pero el valor absoluto ya nos da restricciones en el dominio

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if you keep jumping by 2pi. you'll see this graph repeat itself.

median trail
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Lets say i have this, with the initial condition of y(1) = - 2 and Im also asked to find the largest interval of solution

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as you can see there are some restrictions

abstract scaffold
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ok. first step is to just sub in immediately.

median trail
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yes

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I found c

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c = 3

abstract scaffold
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let's think now. hmm.

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im trying to factorise the polynomial inside the square root

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=tex |y-1| = \sqrt{(x+2)(x^2+2)}

rotund pawnBOT
abstract scaffold
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@median trail the domain seems to be [-2, \infty) is this what you want?

median trail
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exactly

abstract scaffold
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=wolf graph |y-1| = sqrt((x+2)(x^2+2))

rotund pawnBOT
abstract scaffold
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i have no idea what it looks like. so i'll cheat

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seems to shoot down to negative infty on the y axis.

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yeah, that makes sense.

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@median trail this is one of those cases where you just keep the absolute value in your solution... no need to go ahead and try to simplify it.

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actually. scratch that. you can simplify that.

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@median trail ignore what i just said. because of our initial conditions....

the branch we take is:

-(y-1) = sqrt((x+2)(x^2+2))
=> y = 1 - sqrt((x+2)(x^2+2)) where x >= -2

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red and blue es the graph regarding the absolute value... pero el grafico que queremos es el que tiene y(1) = -2 (el de azul solito)

median trail
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The blue graph is the one I used for finding c and finding the solution interval

abstract scaffold
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yep.

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dominio: x >= - 2
rango : y <= 1

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si tuvieramos y(1) = 4, tomariamos la parte arriba (la de color rojo)

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y el rango cambiaria,
dominio: x >= -2
rango: y >= 1

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and y = 1 + sqrt(blah)

boreal peak
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is this how vectors are drawn?

subtle zinc
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gusty ermine
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lo intente pero no entendí nada

subtle zinc
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Ninguna palabra?

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Algo aún que sea

edgy quarry
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Shazam.

subtle zinc
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Dije que no detectaba la canción😔

gusty ermine
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pregúntales a ellos

subtle zinc
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El vídeo es de hace 3 años y no responden comentarios

gusty ermine
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pues

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oye oye oye

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no sos un hablante nativo?

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no c que puedo decirte

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Dios mio, yo no entendí que fue lo que dijo la chica y soy hablante nativa x'D

subtle zinc
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Pues decirme que escuchas tu

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Pero nada

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?

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Yo entiendo somebody solo

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Ni una palabra entendeis

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?

gusty ermine
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hola

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outer fox
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cool

gusty ermine
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siren también es la sirena (🧜‍♀️ )

fallow dock
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(_ for _ in ()).throw(Exception("gg explicitly raising an exception without the raise keyword"))```
twin summit
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@gusty ermine ohh good voice withecho

gusty ermine
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yeah, she is good. (y una sirena) @twin summit

median trail
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@abstract scaffold if the derivartive of a funcion is the function itself, what does that mean asides from the fact that the rate of change is the function itself?

abstract scaffold
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I mean the only function that does that is e^x

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i dunno what else you want but that's basically it. the rate of change is the function itself.

y' = y
dy/dx = y
dy/y = dx
ln|y| = x + C_1
y = Ce^x

median trail
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I have one question, if I have this v = x/t and I plug x = 3m and t = 5s seconds, so I get v = 3/5 (m/s), why do we read that as 3/5 meters per second? why do we change seconds from plural to singular

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@abstract scaffold

near berry
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Imagine it's a fraction over a 1

median trail
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yeah

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but why do we do that

near berry
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(3/5 of a meter) per 1 second

median trail
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why is it a fraction in the first place

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why isn't velocity defined as idk x * t or e^t * x or whatever

near berry
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Oh. I don't think many people think like that is all

ashen mist
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@median trail lo tratamos como una tasa

near berry
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In your daily life have you ever needed to express the quantity distance * time?

ashen mist
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3/5 meters per second dice que cada segundo, va 0.6 metros

near berry
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I've not. But there's been lots of situations where I needed to talk about how fast something is going

ashen mist
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podríamos definir la velocidad como x*t, pero en ese caso las unidades serían muy extrañas

median trail
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@median trail lo tratamos como una tasa
what is a tasa? (the term is correct I just don't remember what that is blobheart)

ashen mist
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rate

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distance traveled per unit of time

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para nosotros, ese concepto es la velocidad (técnicamente, "velocity" también tiene el concepto de dirección, pero no sé si es así cuando hablamos de "velocidad" en espanol)

median trail
ashen mist
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el numerador y el denominador ambos tienen una unidad

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en el caso de la rapidez, el numerador tiene la unidad de distancia (metros, kilómetros, millas, etc), y el denominador tiene la unidad de tiempo (segundos, minutos, horas)

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por ejemplo, cuando hablamos de la rapidez de un auto, usamos kilómetros por hora o millas por hora, no?

median trail
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yes

ashen mist
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y cuando el numerador y el denominador se unen para formar una fracción, esa fracción es una tasa

median trail
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I just don't understand how a fraction lets me compare two different units and how they change

ashen mist
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no es una comparación

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la fracción en sí te dice sobre el cambio porque la fracción es una tasa

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"kilómetros por hora" dice que la distancia cambia X kilómetros cada hora

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cuando hablamos de los cambios a través del tiempo, lo natural es darle la unidad de tiempo al denominador

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y la unidad de lo que se aumenta o decrece al numerador

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un sueldo de X dólares por año

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una velocidad de X metros por segundo

median trail
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okay so rates are a fraction when the numerator depends on the denominator?

ashen mist
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qué querés decir con "depend"?

near berry
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If you're buying some apples

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And it's 3 dollars for 5 apples

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That ratio doesn't change 3/5

median trail
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what confuses me is that I can't wrap my head around rates being expressed as fractions because I don't see how dividing two things in two different units is connected to calculating how fast the dependent variable changes with respect to the independent one

near berry
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Even if you're buying 6 apples for 10 dollars

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If you multiplied the two numbers

median trail
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qué querés decir con "depend"?
@ashen mist like the numerator being a function of the variable in the denominator

near berry
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3*5 = 15

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You don't know the price

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It could be 15 dollars for 1 apple

ashen mist
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si viajé 10 metros en 30 segundos, entonces mi tasa de cambio de distancia es 10 metros / 30 segundos, o sea 1/3 metros por segundo

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lo cual dice que en un solo segundo, viajo 1/3 metros

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o, en 3 segundos, viajo 1 metro

median trail
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oh

ashen mist
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la tasa necesita unidades diferentesp

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porque hablamos de un cambio de una unidad con respecto a otra unidad

median trail
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im gonna write something on a paper and show it to you guys. I think I get it now

ashen mist
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un cambio de distancia con respecto al tiempo,

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un cambio de precio con respcto al tiempo

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cosas así

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ok

abstract scaffold
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@median trail it might help to think about "rise over run"

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la pendiente

ashen mist
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la derivada es así - la tasa de cambio de la variable dependiente con resecto a la variable independiente

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es que una fracción es como una derivada muy sencilla

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dy/dx es una constante, por ejemplo 3/5

edgy quarry
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¿Mates? :O

ashen mist
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se

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seh

edgy quarry
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Interesante.

median trail
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Thats the conclusion I came to

ashen mist
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if object A is faster than object B, it means that A traveled more distance than B in the same amount of time

gusty ermine
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I like the correction you did there Edsel

ashen mist
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or, it took less time for A to travel the same distance as B

median trail
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So essentially what i wrote is correct?

near berry
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Your pictures are off

abstract scaffold
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your diagram, each section represents distance rather than time.

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it seems a bit inverted

median trail
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but wouldnt 1/3 be like a rectangle split into three parts

ashen mist
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1 meter per 3 seconds

median trail
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so that's not a rectangle split into three parts peepoCozy?

ashen mist
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well what do you want your rectangle to represent

median trail
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I have to think more about this wolfsneaky

median trail
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@median trail it might help to think about "rise over run"
it's just that that doesn't make sense for me haha

abstract scaffold
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each rectangle represents distance travelled per second. the width of each rectangle is not all constantly 1s.

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the more rectangles you have to draw... the more time it takes to cover the same distance.

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thus fewer rectangles is faster indeed. but your labelling of the rectangles is just a tad incorrect

median trail
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each rectangle represents distance travelled per second. the width of each rectangle is not all constantly 1s.
so how do I represent this

abstract scaffold
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just don't label the bottom part.

median trail
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i have a question, do mathematicians consider dx is a non-zero constant? like how do I know the derivative at certain points represents more distance traveled in the same time than at other points if dx is not the same?

abstract scaffold
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its distance being measured over a constant 1s. not constant distance measured of varied time.

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it's an infinitesimal width in the x direction.

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treating it as an exact 0 just seems off.

median trail
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If delta X is different I have no way of knowing which of the two triangles I drew is the fastest and which is the slowest

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Oops

abstract scaffold
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the point is we make that delta x as small as possible through limits

median trail
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I need to compare distances travelled in the y direction using the same distance travelled in the x direction

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To know which of the two is the fastest

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No?

abstract scaffold
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yeah. make delta x constant. then see which delta y is bigger

median trail
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exactly

abstract scaffold
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and as you make delta x approach 0, it gets more accurate

median trail
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exactly!

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omg

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Finally, I get what this is 😄

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the rectangles helped me tbh

abstract scaffold
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la derivada in a nutshell. haha

median trail
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yea haha

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I just had to understand what a rate was and what makes something "faster"/"slower"

median trail
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(Context: Linear Differential Equations)

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this is for first order LDE

abstract scaffold
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@median trail is this the integrating factor method?

pues no importa si eliges el caso positivo o negativo.... pero "nos podemos simplificar la vida" y elegir el caso positivo.

median trail
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@median trail is this the integrating factor method?

pues no importa si eliges el caso positivo o negativo.... pero "nos podemos simplificar la vida" y elegir el caso positivo.
yes

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why though

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does it not affect at all?

abstract scaffold
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@median trail si multiplicas ambos lados por 2... tienes que dividirlo entre dos en el futuro....

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asi que es inutil pensar en otras constantes

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en este método, estás tratando de buscar "una función" para multiplicar en ambos lados para que puedas resolver la ecuación diferencial en una manera muy fácil

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|mu(x)| = c_1e^\int p(x)dx es toda la familia de funciones que puedes elegir como tu factor de integracion(?

median trail
abstract scaffold
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yes. dx is missing.

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factor integrante. that's what i was looking for

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just a typo. should stick a dx there.

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@median trail ¿puedes ver que si decido elegir:
-e^\int P(x) dx (el caso negativo).... puedo usarlo... pero es inutil porque tengo un signo negativo en el lado izq, y tambien en el lado derecho....

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asi que, haz que tu vida sea mas facil por favor.

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or any constant c_2 as a matter of fact

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that constant just becomes a useless factor on both sides.

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it might be easier to see by actually doing examples

median trail
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I'm gonna read through your explanation once I'm done with studying for my DE class for today uwu blobheart thanks for helping me a lot

summer tinsel
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This channel should be renamed to math

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Or maths

fallow dock
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does programming count as math

summer tinsel
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Never mind

fallow dock
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thank god, I live here and I have nowhere to go

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now you must solve my riddle:```python

False == False in [False]
True```

gusty ermine
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math* fuck the UK

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now you must solve my riddle:```python

False == False in [False]
True```
@fallow dock

fallow dock
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😎

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call me if you give up

gusty ermine
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déjame pensar

fallow dock
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don't actually call me

gusty ermine
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ping

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okay pues

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False en [False] es False

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False == False es True

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dejame usar mi computadora

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OH

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no

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de verdad no entiendo nada

fallow dock
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nice

gusty ermine
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decíme como que es True

fallow dock
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dependiendo del lenguaje, vas a obtener diferentes resultados

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la mayoría de hechos dirán false

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en Kotlin es posible escribirlo casi de la misma forma:```kotlin

false == false in arrayOf(false)
res0: kotlin.Boolean = false```

gusty ermine
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depende del orden

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o sea

fallow dock
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no, es algo más, esto es propio de Python y otros lenguajes

gusty ermine
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como el lenguaje lo procesa y en que orden

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hm?

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decíme

fallow dock
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en Python es posible encadenar operadores

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por ejemplo

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>>> 6 < 5 < 4
False```
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esto no es (6 < 5) < 4, porque entonces sería False < 4

gusty ermine
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interesante

fallow dock
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y ya que estamos, para hacerlo más confuso:```python

False < 4
True```en Python, los booleanos heredan de int, así que False es 0 y eso es menor que 4

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encadenar esos operadores como python A OPER B OPER Cprovoca algo comopython A OPER B && B OPER C

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entonces

gusty ermine
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OH YA ENTENDÍ

fallow dock
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False == False in [False]```es algo como```python
primer_false == segundo_false AND segundo_false IN [False]```
gusty ermine
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eso es lo que pensé pero estaba como

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eso no es posible

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guau

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muy interesante de verdad

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también como se dice PEMDAS en español (el orden de operaciones creo)?

fallow dock
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también es gracioso ver al type coercion en JavaScript:```js

5 < 2 < 1
true```

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falso es menor que 1, por supuesto

gusty ermine
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> 5 ?

fallow dock
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falso == 0

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5 < 2 == falso

gusty ermine
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no no, el < antes del cinco?

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que es?

fallow dock
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sólo es el prompt de la REPL

gusty ermine
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oh oh, ya veo

fallow dock
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> console.log("hola men")
hola men
undefined```
gusty ermine
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que asco

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javascript me parece muy raro

fallow dock
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es que uso Node para eso

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JavaScript sufre de no tener una filosofía clara y haber cambiado el paradigma varias veces lol

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y va más allá de == vs ===

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> [0, 2, 5, 11].sort()
[ 0, 11, 2, 5 ]```como esto
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que también tiene explicación, simplemente son tratados como strings

gusty ermine
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eso ya lo sabía

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que javascript compara (?) números por su

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pues no se como puedo decirlo en español pero que

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no es el valor total del número (o variable) pero el valor en un posición

fallow dock
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también el hecho de que las clases sean 90% syntatic sugar sobre prototypes

gusty ermine
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como 9 > 1 porque al primer position el 9 es más que el 1

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corregime xfa

fallow dock
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uh, no me sé los términos específicos de esas cosas, era orden lexicográfico?

gusty ermine
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creo que si

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pues me entendés

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también te voy a ping después, tengo que bañarme y después ir al mercado

fallow dock
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> {}.__proto__.x = 100
100
> {}.x
100
> Array.x
100```epic
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> liek = {
... length: 5,
... 3: 'hola',
... 10: 'fuerita'
... }
{ '3': 'hola', '10': 'fuerita', length: 5 }
> Array.prototype.forEach.call(liek, n => console.log(n))
hola```me gusta hacer deformidades
exotic kiteBOT
viral shard
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Che como le hago para memorizarme tantos methods en js

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Es necesario saberlos todos?

gusty ermine
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si tenés google, no tenés que memorizarte nada

viral shard
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bueno en eso tenes razon xd

fallow dock
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tu cerebro va a recordar los que uses más frecuentemente

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en todo caso, suena a que no tenés un autocompletador, eso está mal (?)

viral shard
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tengo. El VS Code uso y suele autocompletar todo. Pero empecé hace poco con JS y el curso que estoy haciendo me hace leer la documentacion primero antes de hacer proyectos

fallow dock
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la parte importante es aprender a encontrar documentación y saber interpretarla

viral shard
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la parte importante es aprender a encontrar documentación y saber interpretarla
@fallow dock https://devdocs.io/ esta pagina encontre hace poco y esta buena

fallow dock
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es como un mirror de docs

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lol

gusty ermine
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tu cerebro va a recordar los que uses más frecuentemente
@fallow dock si, y también es mejor que usas el documentation cuando no sabes algo

fallow dock
gusty ermine
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en vez de memorizar, xq cosas pueden cambiar

fallow dock
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eso en frameworks xd

viral shard
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Una pregunta. Es real eso de que los developers googlean en el trabajo? O es un meme nada mas?

gusty ermine
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sí lo gocen

viral shard
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Porque tener google en el trabajo suena buenisimo la verdad jaja

fallow dock
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es una verdad parcial ponele

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me la paso googleando weás

gusty ermine
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lo hanen**

fallow dock
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la parte de copypastear de SO no es real en mi experiencia :|

boreal peak
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We should make a channel for maths specific. Call it NerdLand. This chat is active on it 👀

gusty ermine
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es para mi jaja

viral shard
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A ver pero tu jefe sabe que googleas o es algo que se hace a escondidas? xD

gusty ermine
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depende de tu jefe

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pero en mi opinión, tenés que esconder que usas google

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tu jefe es una mierda y vas a odiar trabajando para el

boreal peak
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Who doesnt Google at work

viral shard
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Bue la meta última sería ser freelance entonces

gusty ermine
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estoy de acuerdo

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o ser dueño de tu propia empresa

viral shard
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We should make a channel for maths specific. Call it NerdLand. This chat is active on it 👀
@boreal peak Or we should rename this channel

boreal peak
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Tru

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Even though I like off topics

gusty ermine
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the math talk is amazing

boreal peak
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But it has no real purpose, general is already not tied to topics

gusty ermine
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everyone here is really intelligent and i love it

boreal peak
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Or language switch. Its just a general but a bit more rigged on words

viral shard
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Yeah, we should talk to the mods about this

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It could be nice, for better organization

boreal peak
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Ye, its been active on math for a while

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There's lots of coders/programmers/CS students on discord

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And engineers etc

gusty ermine
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and weebs

boreal peak
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Nono but weebs is another branch

viral shard
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coders weebs

boreal peak
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In just round it up to nerds

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But I can watch anime and not know about math

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Smh

gusty ermine
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casi la mitad de las personas aquí tienen una foto de anime

viral shard
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JAJA exactamente

exotic kiteBOT
fallow dock
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yo no soy programador ni weeb

boreal peak
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What do you study then, Mauricio

fallow dock
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magia de conjuración

viral shard
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otaku e ingeniero de software

gusty ermine
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soy ex presidente

boreal peak
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Wdym, you were talking about math and the other day you were talking in a very knowledged manner

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You are a programmer of some kind

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Stop lying

fallow dock
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nunca he hablado de mates lol

boreal peak
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JavaScript

gusty ermine
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mira

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es una cosa

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que lo llamamos

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sarcasm

viral shard
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yo no soy weeb tampoco, pero sí soy otaku

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lol

boreal peak
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You all stop trolling

gusty ermine
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no soy obama

boreal peak
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Obama is the apellido

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Smh

gusty ermine
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entonces mi nombre es obama obama?

viral shard
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obama barack

boreal peak
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Yes

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Obama obama

viral shard
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now this is the off topic I wanted

boreal peak
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Same

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Now I can actually add something instead of being disruptive to the math geniuses

snow compass
twin summit
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hi

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everyone

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And Halo

median trail
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We should make a channel for maths specific. Call it NerdLand. This chat is active on it 👀
@boreal peak ok kath

boreal peak
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@boreal peak ok kath
@median trail ok nerd

median trail
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@boreal peak uwu

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@boreal peak don't you know the uwu code?

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if someone uwus you, you have to uwu back

boreal peak
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I uwued back

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On an emote smh peperain

median trail
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ahh

boreal peak
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@median trail UwU back 🥚

median trail
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uwu 🤤

boreal peak
ashen mist
#
def uwu(uwu):
  uwu(uwu)
median trail
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pandasad no

edgy quarry
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xDDD

fallow dock
#
(lambda uwu: uwu(uwu))(lambda uwu: uwu(uwu))```
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UwU is this fibonacci?

a iws 1
b iws 1
c iws 0

OwO *notices 100 gweatew than a *
    c iws b 
    b iws b pwus a
    a iws c
    n iws n pwus 1
stawp

nuzzels a```
gusty ermine
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Cursed language

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Enjoys spain

ashen mist
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jajajajajajaja

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@fallow dock dios mio

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nyaa *fiwb(a)*
    *notices a gweatew twan 1*
        c iws fiwb(a minwus 1) pwus fiwb(a minwus 2)
    stawp
    *notices a eqwall twoo  1*
        c iws 1
    stawp
    *notices a eqwall twoo 0*
        c iws 0
    stawp
wetuwn c

nuzzels(fiwb(20))

no puedo mas

fallow dock
ashen mist
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"stawp"

grim lava
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lol

agile robin
boreal peak
twin bridge
boreal peak
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Im getting more stuff

gusty ermine
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Private message me so I can save it pls

fallow dock
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I resigned as a mod in an online community peepohappy

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I feel much better now

boreal peak
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I can see that

still radish
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it seems like being a mod sucks

boreal peak
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It does.... You cant hangout with people as normal anymol

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Its cool to care and manage a server tho... Very challenging. But you learn so much

fallow dock
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it's alright when the community is relatively small or predictable

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when it's like 100k+ people distributed in many types of communication channels and activities and the faces you see every day are always new, it becomes really tiring

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I don't feel like dealing with that

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many have a stronger mental capacity than me tho

boreal peak
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I'm the opposite PES_HahaDead I wouldn't moderate a small server... There's nothing to moderate... I guess I also talk about admin. When you were are admin the whole sever is part your responsibility

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You gotta think of projects ideas and analyze also. Make good responses to situations

fallow dock
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I never dared to administrate a community, you'd better pay me

boreal peak
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Nah it's fun

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But you gotta care

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And you gotta trust and respect your team

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Other wise, no point

still radish
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I hate being a mod in real life too

boreal peak
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Ig it's rare to like having responsibility over others and organize stuff

fallow dock
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>>> this
res0: Line_0 = Line_0@748904e8
>>> this
res1: Line_1 = Line_1@42107318
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> this
res5: Line_5 = Line_5@3957d88b
>>> this.javaClass
res6: java.lang.Class<Line_6> = class Line_6```what a weird implementation for a REPL
gusty ermine
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any one here good at calc

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i need major help

fallow dock
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that guy might or might not be able to help -> @median trail

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maybe you should just say what you're trying to do tho

gusty ermine
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i need major help
@gusty ermine we can try lmao

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ight can i post a picture of the problem here?

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totes (totally, sure yes)

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ight bet

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also send me your profile photo it's funny

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only if the problem is solvedwolfThugLife

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lmao i got you

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can you use L'Hôpital's?

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my proffesor has not gotten there

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Oof then shit

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and using it would be obvious that i used the internet

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i already tried multiplying and dividing by the conjugate of the denominator but i got something that would work

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let me do it so i can show

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is the answer 0?

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i believe its 3/2

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cause with the conjugate the bottom stops becoming 0, and the top has a 0 in it

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wait

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cause with the conjugate the bottom stops becoming 0, and the top has a 0 in it
@gusty ermine my thoughts exactly

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dejarme voy a hacerlo con lhopitals

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ok

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appreciate it

near berry
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l'hopital should give 3/2 yeah

gusty ermine
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yeah thats what the calculator tells me to do but since we havent gotten there in the actual class i cant use it

near berry
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Try multiplying by (sqrt(4x+5)-3) in the numerator / denominator instead?

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(Instead of (sqrt(4x+5)+3))

gusty ermine
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i have to use the conjugate

near berry
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I haven't checked yet but that should be a lot more useful

gusty ermine
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saque 0

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perame

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the problem is that once the sqrt on 4x+5 gets eliminated, 5+ 3^2 gives me 14

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3/2

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if only it was 5-3^2 then it would be -4 and i could simplify

ashen mist
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I thought (a+b)(a-b) is a^2 - b^2

gusty ermine
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@near berry imma try what you said

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I thought (a+b)(a-b) is a^2 - b^2
@ashen mist yeah thats a difference of squares

median trail
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Hey

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What can i help you with

ashen mist
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He had a^2 + b^2on the paper

gusty ermine
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What can i help you with
@median trail a calc problem

median trail
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Ok

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Did you solve it

gusty ermine
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i posted a picture of it already

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nope not even close

median trail
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Oh ok

gusty ermine
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we know the answer but i cant use that method yet

near berry
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Yeah

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Follow my suggestion

gusty ermine
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the question directly says to use conjugates

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@near berry didnt work

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it had promise tho

near berry
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Can you show to what point you got?

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Cause I got 3/2 doing that

near berry
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(x+a) * (x+a) is rarely helpful cause you just get a messier equation

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but (x+a) * (x-a) is frequently useful cause you end up with x^2 - a^2

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which you can do a lot more with

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Can you share a picture of your work like you did before?

gusty ermine
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sorry i went to the bathroom, yes give me a moment

median trail
near berry
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Sure, sorry 👍

gusty ermine
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@median trail so it was conjugate

ashen mist
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Yo

near berry
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Yeah, same:

ashen mist
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The (x-1) cancels out

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Cuz you get (4x-4) in the denominator

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Which is 4(x-1)

gusty ermine
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yeha ik that

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ok ty guys for oyur help

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now im gonna cry

ashen mist
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Oh hitaro posted it

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And Edsel lol

near berry
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If you ever feel like crying

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Just do some math problems to cheer yourself up!

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:D

median trail
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you can tell how much my markers were wearing out on each step peeporolf

gusty ermine
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you can tell how much my markers were wearing out on each step peeporolf
@median trail you're fucking amazing

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debes ser un admin

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do you guys wanna do another one👁️ 👄 👁️

near berry
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Sure, have you given this one a solid attempt?

ashen mist
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No, me tengo que duchar

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Aunque a veces he solucionado cosas mientras me duchaba

gusty ermine
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its ok i can do this one

fallow dock
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Aunque a veces he solucionado cosas mientras me duchaba
THE MITOCHONDRIA IS THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL

boreal peak
grim lava
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👀

fallow dock
#

Guys, look at JavaScript's math```js

1000 / 0
Infinity```

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I know it's not JavaScript's math per se, but what a faulty design

grim lava
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same thing happens in c# with floats and doubles whatthink

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and java, but i think thats a standard for floating point numbers

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idk whatthink

fallow dock
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you're talking about the long number, yes, I was talking about the allowed division by zero

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which iirc is also specified in some way in IEEE 754 but I don't know the details and I can't look it up rn

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I find it "faulty" because I really can't tell why anyone would want that in a browser lol

grim lava
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no, i mean dividing by zero being infinity

fallow dock
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ah, but you can use doubles or whatever

grim lava
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but the .30 blah blah blah as well i suppose

fallow dock
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in JS you have no choice

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there's no integer type

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or anything

grim lava
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are all numbers automatically represented as floats in js?

fallow dock
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yes

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that's why I'm complaining

grim lava
fallow dock
#

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_754 the behavior is as you would expect, at least

The IEEE Standard for Floating-Point Arithmetic (IEEE 754) is a technical standard for floating-point arithmetic established in 1985 by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE). The standard addressed many problems found in the diverse floating-point imple...

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JS is full of these little weird details

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Ah, doubles are also defined there, right

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I suppose you could use BigDecimal but what a pain in Java lol

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seems JavaScript Number is technically a double, since it's 64 bits

glossy shuttle
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@gusty ermine genial

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Sí sabes en donde es Nuevo León, ¿verdaD?

gusty ermine
#

#

por qué

glossy shuttle
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nomás

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muchos no saben

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xd

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ando comiendo timbits calientitos

gusty ermine
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es buena ciudad Monterrey?

glossy shuttle
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sip

gusty ermine
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hay Tim hortons allá?

glossy shuttle
#

gusty ermine
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no manches

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Acá no

past harbor
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has visto lo que pasó con git? @ashen mist

glossy shuttle
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¿de dónde eres? @gusty ermine

past harbor
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Bueno, creo que empezó todo hace mucho tiempo pero me acabo de dar cuenta de algo

gusty ermine
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De los EEUU

glossy shuttle
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sí pero cuál estado

gusty ermine
#

California

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acá no hay nada

glossy shuttle
#

ustedes tienen el In-N-Out 😠

gusty ermine
#

Jaja eso

glossy shuttle
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jajaja

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¿De Los Ángeles?

gusty ermine
#

glossy shuttle
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nice

gusty ermine
#

Mis padres son de Puebla

glossy shuttle
#

ahh genial

gusty ermine
#

Ya me tengo que ir

glossy shuttle
#

okk

gusty ermine
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tengo clases

#

Adiós

glossy shuttle
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sisi yo igual jajaja

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adiós

gusty ermine
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👋

#

jaja

ashen mist
#

qué

past harbor
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La rama dejará de llamarse

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master y será main

#

Parece ser que la gente que va con el "lenguaje inclusivo" dando por culo, denunció a Git

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por incitar el odio/racismo

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Dicen que la palabra master viene de los grupos de África en el que sólo hay un hombre al poder

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Cuando lo leí, me morí de risa

#

@ashen mist

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Desde hace dos meses o así la gente empezó a cambiarle el nombre a la rama, ya no va a ser "master" sino "main"

glossy shuttle
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@young violet @gusty ermine

ashen mist
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@past harbor oh wow

past harbor
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😄

boreal peak
#

Timies

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Omg

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Las bolas son lo mejor

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:^)

glossy shuttle
boreal peak
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Chupi chupi

glossy shuttle
#

que

#

dónde

#

cómo

#

por qué

gusty ermine
#

Eso se toma en Brasil

median trail
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Thats what we call it in venezuela

glossy shuttle
#

xD

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en méxico hay 3249908492384 maneras de decirle

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una parte le dice bolis, otra gelatina, otra sabalito,

boreal peak
#

Pero no chupi chupi?

glossy shuttle
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no jajaja

gusty ermine
#

hola gente!

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😦 halo...

fallow dock
#

hola Viossa

gusty ermine
#

como estan hoy?

fallow dock
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bien y tú

gusty ermine
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bien Yo quiero hablo espñol porque yo solo hablo inglés

fallow dock
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yo quiero hablar [en] español*

gusty ermine
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Gracias

fallow dock
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allí la gente debería hablar en un nivel básico y corregirte, creo

ashen mist
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hola

fallow dock
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también habían cambiado todas las referencias de whitelist/blacklist del kernel de Linux

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no recuerdo a qué

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algo tipo allowlist (?)

ashen mist
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blocklist y allowlist?

fallow dock
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creo idk

ashen mist
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y qué va a pasar con "whitehat" y "blackhat" lol

fallow dock
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igual creí que lo de main lo habían hecho en GitHub nomás pero me salió del loop hace meses kermitworried

ashen mist
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no sabía que lo habían hecho

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hasta hace una hora o algo así

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cuando Evil me avisó lol

fallow dock
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taba en las news de GitHub

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de lo de git ni idea

#

pero igual que el kernel está relacionado con el señor Linus

#

cuando primero pasó lo de GitHub hubo todo un revuelo porque eso salió en medio de BLM

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y muchos no le veían sentido a cambiar el nombre de master cuando no veían relación master-slave en las branches

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como sí lo hay en otras cosas

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y fue tipo "weno GitHub quiere tener buenas apariencias"

#

pero también salieron unos a decir "nono, en realidad ese master si se refiere al amo" y citaban links a mailing links de Gnome (¿?¿?) que a su vez citaban fuentes de algún otro lado

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y ni idea la verdad

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no sé si hay relación o no xd (originalmente)

ashen mist
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pero la palabra "master" puede significar "main, principal"

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como "master bedroom"

fallow dock
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sí, ese es el argumento que se daba en general

ashen mist
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con bluetooth, hay "master" y "slave", y por eso tendría sentido

fallow dock
#

pero también decían

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"ok pero master bedroom viene de X origen, donde hay un amo de esclavos"

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en dev.to había una de las tantas discusiones sobre el asunto

ashen mist
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"master" también trata con los servidores, o sea personas que no son esclavos

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no sé, para mí significa algo como "main" a menos que se use como "my master"

fallow dock
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idk idc xdd

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yo tampoco le veo connotaciones implícitamente racistas

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sino qué es un master's degree, creo que en ese caso tiene que tener una relación indirecta con por ejemplo maestro del español

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igual que kung fu master

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luego de eso pasó lo del kernel y demás

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I think

ashen mist
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weno a mí me da igual

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si quieren cambiar los términos para evitar problemas, que lo hagan

fallow dock
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no, viejo, ofendete, decile a tu compañía que se cambie a GitLab

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ah re

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no sé si GitLab y otros siguieron el mismo camino

ashen mist
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lol

#

creo que usamos los dos

fallow dock
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tengan un Gitea local y que sean 3

#

tengo un amigo que tiene un montón de SBCs (como la Raspberry Pi) y tiene montones de servicios en su casa xdd

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y encima los usa

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yo sólo le reviso el Gitea y le corrijo código (?)

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el tipo es "weno quiero descargar X cosa de bittorrent" y tiene el servicio ahí en su nube local

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y así con todo

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es un huge media center

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en mi casa hay una RPi y no tengo nada lol

ashen mist
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lol wf

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wtf

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yo tengo un jardín afuera

fallow dock
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estás diciendo que tu tiempo en casa es invertido en el jardín y no como sysadmin de una locura?

ashen mist
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sep

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mis nodos son las plantas

fallow dock
#

@grim lava me corrijo, agregaron un unbound integer a JS hace unos 11 meses definitivamente. Aunque no es para usar en todos lados, es de uso específico, así que no soluciona mucho xd

There is no separate integer type in common everyday use. (JavaScript now has a BigInt type, but it was not designed to replace Number for everyday uses. 37 is still a Number, not a BigInt.)

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es similar a BigInteger de Java o los enteros de Python, so, de precisión arbitraria

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> for (let i = 0n; i < 5n; i++) console.log(i)
0n
1n
2n
3n
4n```la notación es medio extraña tho
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> 1n / 0n
Uncaught RangeError: Division by zero```epicardo
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> 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999n
99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999n```
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big boi

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intenté hacer 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999n << 999999999999999n y se murió Node, no lo intenten en casa (?)

slender merlin
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Hello what Is this

fallow dock
gusty ermine
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por que encuentro operaciones arimeticas en off topic jaja

slender merlin
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Because who likes to talk maths

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🙄

fallow dock
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qué original el maymay

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10/10

median trail
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@abstract scaffold if I have 4m times 2s is that equal to 8m/s or 8 m*s wolfsneaky

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if the answer is 8m/s, why 8m/s * 1s = 8m

abstract scaffold
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it's exactly as you say.

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4m * 2s = 8 metre seconds (whatever the fuck this means)

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and 8m/s * 1s = 8m

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speed = distance/time
distance = speed * time

gusty ermine
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how do you eve nultiply distance and time???

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like that doesn't make any sense

abstract scaffold
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yeah. it doesn't make sense practically. or at least not any i can think of.

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@median trail another example with units multiplying together.
Area (metres by metres m^2)
Volume (length x width x height m^3 metros cubicos... o lo que sea (cm, km etc....))

median trail
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doing 4m/2s is just a fast way to get how many meters I traveled in one second?

abstract scaffold
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4m/(2s) = 2m/s

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as long as you have your units right, then yeah.

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if you travelled 4 metres for 2 seconds... then it must be your average speed is 2m/s

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1 kWh (one kilowatt hour)
1 * 1000W * h
1000 * J/s * h
1000 * J/s * 60 min
1000 * J/s * 3600 s
1 KWh = 3 600 000 J (joules)

median trail
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so kWh is not kW each hour?

abstract scaffold
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nope.

#

if it was kW each hour then it would be kW/h

median trail
#

I have another question if f'(x) = dy/dx represents the slope at x = k, why this linear approximation gets better and better for small values of dx because f'(x) is a value that's like how much y changes for one unit in the x direction

abstract scaffold
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you mean f'(k)?

median trail
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Ye

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Like doing dy = f'(k)dx is a line that helps me understand how much dy changes depending on dx

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But why does it get better and better when dx is smaller

abstract scaffold
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because when dx is approaching 0, you get the tangent.

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which is ultimately what you want.

median trail
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Ah and since it's a line the slope dy/dx is the same when dx is small than when its large

abstract scaffold
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more or less. yeah. la pendiente es aproximadamente igual cuando dx es chiquito

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and not really accurate when dx is large (for obvious reasons)

median trail
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Exactly because the error between the tangent line and the graph gets smaller

abstract scaffold
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mhmmm

sweet plume
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Is it allowed to look for a tutor in here?

median trail
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A tutor for what?

sweet plume
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Learning Spanish. :p

past harbor
sweet plume
#

Thanks homie 😛

past harbor
#

@sweet plume

#

Quita esa oración

#

Enseñamos gratis, no debes pagar dinero

sweet plume
#

My bad!

past harbor
#

Si necesitas a alguien que te ayude, puedes mandarme un DM

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Puedo corregirte y explicar gramática, @sweet plume

sweet plume
#

Thanks you so much! I definitely will man!

past harbor
#

hablame x dm

median trail
#

=tex

#

=tex \frac{dy}{dx} + ctg(x)y = tan(x), p(x) = ctg(x);f(x) = tan(x);\varkappa(x) = \left | sinx \right |

#

@abstract scaffold if I have this do I have to like get two general solutions, right? Like when sinx >= 0 and sinx < 0

#

I'm not sure about this exercise because i get this

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=tex \frac{dy}{dx} + ctg(x)y = sec^2x, p(x) = ctg(x);f(x) = sec^2x;\varkappa(x) = \left | sinx \right |

rotund pawnBOT
median trail
#

and I get the following

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how do I put blank spaces between words

abstract scaffold
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@median trail creo q no necesitas preocuparte del valor absoluto

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\, para un espacio

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\\ para un linea nueva

#

solo estas tratando de buscar "un factor integrante"

#

whether you choose +/- sin(x), no importa

median trail
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=tex when, sinx,>=,0\ sin(x)y = \int sec^2(x)dx,+,C1\ sin(x)y = tan(x) + C\ y = cos(x) + \frac{C}{cos(x)}

rotund pawnBOT
median trail
#

sinx disappeared

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so, do I still have to account for that when typing the solution interval?

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like, it'd be

abstract scaffold
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=tex \frac{dy}{dx} + ctg(x)y = sec^2x

median trail
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=tex when, sinx,>=,0\ sin(x)y = \int sec^2(x)dx,+,C1\ sin(x)y = tan(x) + C\ y = cos(x) + \frac{C}{cos(x)}, I = (0, \frac{\pi}{2})

abstract scaffold
#

is this your original diff eq?

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If so. i'm seeing a few errors

median trail
#

oh

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OH I SEE

#

wait a second

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=tex \frac{dy}{dx} + ctg(x)y = \frac{sec^2x}{sin(x)}, p(x) = ctg(x);f(x) = sec^2x;\varkappa(x) = \left | sinx \right |

#

this is

rotund pawnBOT
abstract scaffold
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ok. makes more sense now.

median trail
#

and I get this

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=tex when, sinx,>=,0\ sin(x)y = \int sec^2(x)dx,+,C1\sin(x)y = tan(x) + C\y = cos(x) + \frac{C}{cos(x)}, I = (0, \frac{\pi}{2})

rotund pawnBOT
median trail
#

I chose (0, pi/2) because I accounted for the sinx >= 0 and cos(x) cannot be zero

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when 0 <= x <= 2pi

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oops I made another mistake

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=tex when, sinx,>=,0\ sin(x)y = \int sec^2(x)dx,+,C1\sin(x)y = tan(x) + C\y = \frac{1}{cos(x)} + \frac{C}{cos(x)}, I = (0, \frac{\pi}{2})

rotund pawnBOT
median trail
#

this should be correct now

abstract scaffold
#

=tex
\varkappa(x) = \begin{cases}
e^ln(sinx) if sin(x) > 0 \
e^ln(-sinx) if sin(x) < 0
\end{cases}

rotund pawnBOT
abstract scaffold
#

oops. forgot to close stuff

median trail
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ye

abstract scaffold
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@median trail no te procupes de los dos casos. va a ser lo mismo. +/- sin(x)

median trail
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yea

abstract scaffold
#

so u don't need domain restrictions

median trail
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my question is do I have to account for the sinx >= 0 when choosing the solution interval?

abstract scaffold
#

nope

median trail
#

ah

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I have another question

abstract scaffold
#

you don't need to state an interval

median trail
#

Oh my textbook asks me to pandasad

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=tex \varkappa(x) = \left | x \right |^{2}e^{x}

abstract scaffold
#

like, interval could be something like (0,pi) for one branch i guess

rotund pawnBOT
median trail
#

if I have this, do I have two identical cases because when x is greater or equal to zero is the same as x being less than zero

abstract scaffold
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yep. its identical

median trail
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I'm confused because e^x is greater or equal to one when x >= 0 and 0 < e^x < 1 when x < 0, so Idk if I should just say they are identical and use that

abstract scaffold
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it shouldn't affect the final result.

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you can try treating them separately and realise it's the same case

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=tex |x|^2e^x = x^2e^x \forall x \in \mathbb{R}

rotund pawnBOT
amber barn
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does anybody here understand pre-calc/calculus?

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(and is willing to waste a little bit of their time)

gusty ermine
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décinos la pregunta

amber barn
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3ln(2) - ln(20) + 2ln(5)

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pienso que el exámen me preguntó a simplificar

abstract scaffold
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do you know your log laws?

amber barn
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mm sort of

gusty ermine
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do you know your log laws?
@abstract scaffold ^ con eso podés simiplificar

amber barn
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im mainly not sure what to do about the coefficients

gusty ermine
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xq LN tienen el mismo base

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I think you can take them out

amber barn
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yeah, but am i correct to assume you cant use the addition log law when theres who different numbers in front of the natural log

gusty ermine
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Use product and qhotenr rule

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yeah, but am i correct to assume you cant use the addition log law when theres who different numbers in front of the natural log
@amber barn yes you can

amber barn
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oh sorry

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i misread my own typing

abstract scaffold
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@amber barn indeed. so you need to find a way to get the coefficient inside the log. or maybe another method

gusty ermine
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3ln(2) - ln(20) + 2ln(5)
@amber barn take out 3 and 2 so it's
6 [ ln(2) - ln(20) + ln(5)]

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wait lemme double check if you can do this

abstract scaffold
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^that's a bit off

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u can't really do that

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because if u expand back, you dont get what u started with originally

gusty ermine
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@amber barn take out 3 and 2 so it's
6 [ ln(2) - ln(20) + ln(5)]
@gusty ermine lemme re do it

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Y LN(X) = LN(X^Y)

abstract scaffold
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that's the law you need.

gusty ermine
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3ln(2) - ln(20) + 2ln(5)
@amber barn So it's ln(2^3) - ln(20) + ln(5^2)

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2^3 is 8, 5^2 = 25

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with quotient and product rule, left to right

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ln(8/20) (from ln(8) - ln(20))= .4
.4 * (from ln(.4) + ln(25) (product rule)) = 10
answer is ln(10)

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@amber barn

amber barn
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thank you so much!!! sorry i was writing it all down

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i really appreciate it

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we took a precalc diagnostic test today and it would seem my memory from over a year ago is lacking : (

abstract scaffold
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=tex Prove: $yln(x) = ln(x^y)$ \

Let $\xi = yln(x) \
\implies \frac{\xi}{y} = ln(x) \
\implies x = e^\frac{\xi}{y} \
\implies x^y = e^{\xi} \
\implies \xi = ln(x^y) \
\therefore yln(x) = ln(x^y)$ as required

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=tex Prove: yln(x) = ln(x^y) \

Let \xi = yln(x) \
\implies \frac{\xi}{y} = ln(x) \
\implies x = e^\frac{\xi}{y} \
\implies x^y = e^{\xi} \
\implies \xi = ln(x^y) \
\therefore yln(x) = ln(x^y) as required

gusty ermine
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ni siquiera dios puede entender que estás haciendo

amber barn
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thanks!

gusty ermine
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it's obvious but just be careful with the case y=0

amber barn
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gotcha : )

abstract scaffold
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the law still works for y = 0.

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because anything raised to the 0 is 1. (unless the base is 0)

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so the things to caution is when x <= 0

amber barn
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okay

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how would you find the domain of a function?

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an ln function

abstract scaffold
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depends on the function

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ln(x) you just gotta know the graph.

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it's the inverse of e^x

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@amber barn do you know the domain and range of e^x?

amber barn
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not exactly

abstract scaffold
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ok. do you know what domain means?

amber barn
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the problem im working on asks for the domain of the function f(t) = ln(25-t^2)+(1/t-3)

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the range of values on the x axis that the function reaches?

abstract scaffold
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yep. the "x" values you can plug in such that you get an ouput "y" value

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well. in ur case, "t" values to get an f(t)

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@amber barn so. let's start simple. what x values of e^x can and cannot be substitued in?

amber barn
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there are certain values that can't be substituted in?

abstract scaffold
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ok. it was a trick question. because the domain is all real x

amber barn
abstract scaffold
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@amber barn now that the domain of all real x has been established. how about the range of y values for y = e^x ?

amber barn
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okay so im pretty sure theres some sort of limit right?

abstract scaffold
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or maybe it might be easier to find, what range of y values can't be an output?

amber barn
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anything at 0 or below?

abstract scaffold
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exactly. thus the range is y > 0

amber barn
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ah okay

abstract scaffold
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now because ln(x) is the inverse of e^x

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swap the domain and range around

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domain : x >0
range: all real y

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we can generalise it to say for y = ln(f(x))
domain: f(x) > 0
range: all real y

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@amber barn so for your question f(t) = ln(25-t^2)+(1/t-3)

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let's just focus on the ln first and deal with the other function later

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don't try to everything at once. just split things into chunks.

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do you think you can find the domain of ln(25-t^2) now? @amber barn

amber barn
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uhhh

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f(t) > 0?

abstract scaffold
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f(t) is the range.

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do you mean g(t) = 25 - t^2 > 0?

amber barn
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dang, my bad

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im not sure

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im so sorry, im really terrible at math

abstract scaffold
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are you stuck on 25 - t^2 > 0 or do you think you can handle it? remember this is the thing inside the log... and the thing inside the log must be positive

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as we established from the inverse of e^x that the domain of ln(x) is x>0

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so we have to solve for 25 - t^2 > 0

amber barn
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does the other part of the equation . affect the range

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or the domain

abstract scaffold
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@amber barn the other part we still have do deal with as it still affects the range and domain. but we first deal with ln() then the other part later

amber barn
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okay

abstract scaffold
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after doing things separately, you then combine the ideas into one to find the final domain for the whole function

amber barn
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i see

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im not sure where to begin

abstract scaffold
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with 25 - t^2 > 0?

amber barn
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okay! one sec

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5?

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t>5

abstract scaffold
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the first step was to deal with the log function first:
find the domain of the log function. that is when is the inside function positive.

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@amber barn almost.

amber barn
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wait t<5

abstract scaffold
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not quite

amber barn
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i forgot to account for the sign flip

abstract scaffold
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try sketching this parabola

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what are the t intercepts.

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t<5 doesn't quite cut it.
like for example. try substituting t = -100 into 25 - t^2 and see if that satisfies the inequality 25 - t^2 > 0 or not

amber barn
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i guess it doesn't

abstract scaffold
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edit: t = -100, a really negative number

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what's 25 - 100^2 is super negative. so t < 5 is not quite it.

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it's part of the solution though

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@amber barn do you know how to sketch this parabola?

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try just sketching g(t) = 25 - t^2

amber barn
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okay

abstract scaffold
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and then deduce from your sketch which t values satisfy g(t) > 0

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inequalities can be tricky because you can't really treat them like equations. like you have to be careful when taking square roots of both sides.

amber barn
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it would be downwards facing with a y-int of 25, so all y values below 25 would work ?

abstract scaffold
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thus the graphing approach is probably the best approach

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@amber barn almost. not just below 25, there's some other condition

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@amber barn remember we're trying to find t values, not y values.

amber barn
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ohhhh okay sorry

abstract scaffold
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because we're finding domain.

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if we're finding range, then we'd be looking at f(t)

amber barn
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so from the roots can i find a hole

abstract scaffold
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i guess u can phrase it like that

amber barn
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what would you actually call it?

abstract scaffold
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basically I want to be sketching g(t) 25 - t^2 vs h(t) = 0 and finding when g(t) is above h(t)

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the roots will help with this

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so, where are your roots @amber barn

amber barn
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5, -5 ?

abstract scaffold
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ok. cool

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=wolf graph 25 - x^2

rotund pawnBOT
abstract scaffold
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hence. can u deduce now which t values satisfy 25 - t^2 > 0?

amber barn
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would it be all real numbers?

abstract scaffold
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nope. we already established that t >= 5 won't satisfy the inequality

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because 25 - 99999^2 is super negative

amber barn
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hmm

abstract scaffold
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t<5 is partially correct

amber barn
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would i use interval notation to account for the roots?

abstract scaffold
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you can use whichever notation you prefer to write the domain

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hence: when is 25 - t^2 > 0.
when is 25 - t^2 above y = 0
when is 25 - t^2 above the x (or t in this cases) axis?

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for which t values?

amber barn
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-5<t>5

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?

abstract scaffold
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-5<t<5

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t>5 is below the axis

amber barn
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oh sorry!

abstract scaffold
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between -5 and 5 exclusive.

amber barn
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yeah

abstract scaffold
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because -5 and 5 is 0... which we don't want to be equal to 0 either

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=tex t \in (-5,5)

rotund pawnBOT
abstract scaffold
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now we have the domain for ln(25 - t^2)

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but are we done yet?

amber barn
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so is finding the domain limited to numbers that are above 0?

abstract scaffold
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for log functions

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since the domain of a simple log function ln(x) is x>0

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=wolf graph ln(x)

amber barn
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ah, this is something i was not aware of

rotund pawnBOT
amber barn
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thank yoou

rotund pawnBOT
abstract scaffold
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@amber barn do you think we're done?

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have we answered the question fully?

amber barn
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we still have the rest of the equation i guess

abstract scaffold
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yep

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thus we're not done yet

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look at the other one.

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1/(t-3)

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what's the domain of this?

amber barn
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as its own equation?

abstract scaffold
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yep

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k(t) = 1/(t-3) find the domain of k(t)

amber barn
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hmm graphing radical functions is something i havent done in a while

abstract scaffold
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ok. let's ask a different question. @amber barn what values of t can i not substitute into k(t)

amber barn
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3

abstract scaffold
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hence or otherwise, what's the domain of k(t)

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remember, the domain is the t values you can substitute into the equation

amber barn
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(-infinity,3)u(3,infinity)? im not sure exactly how to answer that : (

abstract scaffold
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yes

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=tex t \in (-\infty,3) \cup (3,\infty) is the domain of \frac{1}{t-3}

rotund pawnBOT
abstract scaffold
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hence or otherwise. find the domain of your original function

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ln(25 - t^2) + 1/(t-3)

amber barn
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3>t<5 ? im not sure

abstract scaffold
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not quite.

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remember for the ln() part it was
-5 < t < 5
and for the hyperbola it was
all real t except at t = 3

amber barn
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what does this function look like? im having a hard time visualizing it

abstract scaffold
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try combining those two together.

amber barn
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(-5,3)u(3,5) ?

abstract scaffold
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yep.

amber barn
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yay

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thank you for your patience

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i'm sure that was incredibly painful for you haha

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but i really appreciate your help, i really can't afford to fall behind any more in this class

abstract scaffold
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=wolf graph ln(25-t^2) + 1/(t-3)

rotund pawnBOT
amber barn
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thanks!

abstract scaffold
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the graph is pretty inaccurate. it should shoot to negative infinity as t approaches +5