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ocean otter
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Welp, if you've never had amd I would certanly not recomend it xD

eager wagon
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hm creo que nunca he tenido nada de amd

rain ermine
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||your problem: AMD gpu||

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||drivers xd||

icy pollen
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tenía dos tarjetas de amd. ambas no funcionan después de dos semanas.

ahora compro nvidia

median trail
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@abstract scaffold Oh wait I didn't know that, and I'm majoring in a branch of engineering thinky

gusty ermine
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@past harbor : Ets català? 🙂

past harbor
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Sí, pero no se habla catalán en este servidor 😄

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¿y tú?

gusty ermine
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Me he percatado. Sí, en efecto, soy catalán 😉

past harbor
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Aquí tenemos un par

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Dos más creo

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son chicas

gusty ermine
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Mola

past harbor
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hay vascos

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andaluce' tambien

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madrileño

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uno

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mm..

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un manchego

gusty ermine
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😉

eager wagon
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a ver

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@gusty ermine puedo enviarte un mensaje por privado?

gusty ermine
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Claro

eager wagon
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Tu configuración no me permite 😛

vestal pine
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@eager wagon what’s happened to ur pfpummm

eager wagon
vestal pine
still radish
foggy flare
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not tryinna be political or anythin'

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but didn't the fbi find out pluto ain't real?

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that's why us has 49 states

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this dumbass tryinna tell me it's 50

past harbor
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¿Alguien sabe de php?

severe vortex
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South Dakota doesn't exist

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There really are only 49 states

sweet cape
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Anyone knows about “marketing”?

quaint kite
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Have you guys watched La Casa De Papel

sweet cape
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Yes

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I have finished it

quaint kite
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are you a native english speaker

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If you are, how much can you understand from the show in spanish

sweet cape
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No, i’m fluent

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But I’m spanish native

quaint kite
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Oh cool

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I started about learning spanish again two months ago, I can understand maybe 20-30% of the dialogue

sweet cape
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About the show?

quaint kite
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yea

sweet cape
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It’s pretty understandable

quaint kite
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A lot of it is very fast for me, I still have to increase my vocab and get used to hearing it that way

sweet cape
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I mean, if you have basic vocabulary, you can understand some parts but when it comes like formal way, it’s pretty confuse

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Yeah, it has a lot of vocabulary that we sometimes don’t use

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Like “vosotros”

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But it still works if you’re beginner to link you to spanish from spain or some accents like Palermo

quaint kite
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Yea vosotros because it takes place in Spain I think

exotic kiteBOT
sweet cape
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Yeah

gusty ermine
crystal kraken
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Jajajajaj

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Grx

gusty ermine
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De nada uwu2

vestal pine
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@gusty ermine make me one pls

gusty ermine
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Sure

vestal pine
gusty ermine
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t!avatar bizzle

exotic kiteBOT
rain ermine
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t!avatar

exotic kiteBOT
rain ermine
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ostias que la chica me quiere

gusty ermine
vestal pine
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halal halal halal halal halal thanks ab

gusty ermine
fathom flame
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@shrewd pendant

sacred harbor
glass dragon
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hahaha

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pobre tom

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always bullied for his eyes

faint wyvern
fathom flame
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@shrewd pendant peepoCry

tall pebble
median trail
cursive wave
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nice links Edsel

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ill have a look at those this summer to brush up on some of my dusty maths skills

gusty ermine
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Awesome links, thanks

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They come at the right time too 😂 . I'm a 1st year Software Engineering student. Failed my first maths test but I got a 90% in the CS test. I don't why I prioritise/like one thing over the other wolfscared

gusty ermine
still radish
rain ermine
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go tryhard

still radish
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what do you think I am doing haha

rain ermine
fathom flame
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u need more ram

still radish
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you must mean chrome

rain ermine
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no spotify too

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chrome is understandable i have several tabs open

still radish
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chrome is taking 20% bro

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0.7% looks reasonable

rain ermine
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thats the cpu usuage...

fathom flame
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download more ram

rain ermine
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you cant do that

still radish
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oh the 1.4 gb?

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that is mental

rain ermine
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8 gigs suck

still radish
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it should be enough

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blame Spotify

rain ermine
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idk what its doing

shrewd pendant
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you must mean chrome
@still radish youre not wrong actually. I think spotify is an electron app which essentially means it is another instance of google chrome running in the background

fathom flame
still radish
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damn good facts

fallow dock
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@shrewd pendant Spotify wasn't built with Electron

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but it uses Chromium Embedded Framework

shrewd pendant
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oh ok

rain ermine
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wow the ram usage went down

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wtf was happening

severe vortex
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I'm too lazy to practice proper tab management in chrome so I use a tab suspender extension

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If I don't use a tab for a certain amount of time it suspends it so it stops using ram

shrewd pendant
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you probably mean cpu?

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unless that is a different use of "suspend" than is typically used

calm flax
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maybe it swaps it out to the page file?

real imp
fathom flame
real imp
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median trail
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maybe you are trying to iterate on something that doesn't allow it

real imp
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it should allow it though

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its just retrieving the name of the guilds its in

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guilds = servers

median trail
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i know

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but

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Idk it's been a while since the last time I used js

real imp
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what is pixel made on?

median trail
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python

real imp
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ah

median trail
real imp
fallow dock
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seems you were following the documentation for an older version

real imp
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yeahhhhh thanks

median trail
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ticko is deprecated

fallow dock
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this is the current type for the guilds object

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Does Discord really need 5m tall embeds

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I need to add <> to almost every single link

median trail
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I THOUGHT I GOT LIKE 1.9 AT MOST

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I FINISHED THIS MIDTERM IN LIKE 45 MINUTES

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AND I DIDN'T EVEN STUDY FOR THIS TEST

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DIJEOFKJRJRBFHEWJFNKWEF

gentle heath
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godsel

median trail
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I'm pretty sure my teacher helped me

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it's impossible that I got 3.38

gentle heath
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nah bro ur just the linalg master

median trail
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She might have said "He only got A's on the past three tests, and he did very poorly on this one wtf I'm not going to take into account some little mistakes he made" or something along those lines

gentle heath
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ur professors must be way nicer than mine

median trail
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My linear algebra teacher is very kind

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and considerate

fallow dock
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I haven't seen those in my college experience (?)

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not like that lol

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one of my professors made us pass her grade once even though no one got more than 7 out of 10 and most did't get to the required 6 in a test

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and that test was garbage

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semiotics is also convoluted as hell

safe igloo
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Has anyone here learned redux

thin copper
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what's better, to hibernate my laptop or suspend it? I mean when I'm going to do something else for a while so I don't want to turn it off

rain ermine
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put it to sleep

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its the best thing tbh

shrewd pendant
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if it is connected to power, always sleep it

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if it is not connected to power, then hibernate if you're going to be away for a while

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like several hours

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otherwise sleep is fine too

thin copper
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what I normally do is plug it out and then suspend it.

shrewd pendant
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oh I forget not all of them have a charge limit like mine

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honestly either is fine

thin copper
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because the battery doesn't last long so it's normally plugged in

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I see

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thanks

shrewd pendant
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how much is not much?

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also it'd be *doesn't last long

thin copper
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like less than an hour at 100%

shrewd pendant
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oof

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well you can always just keep it always plugged in

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then there's no reason to unplug or hibernate really

thin copper
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I see, so suspend it is ok then?

shrewd pendant
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yeah it'll turn back on faster with suspend

thin copper
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👍

celest bay
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@median trail pogchamp

real imp
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nice edsel

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congrats

median trail
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okay so remember how abs value is defined

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when x is equal or greater than zero

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x is is positive

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then you have to solve for -x when x is less than zero

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so you have

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x^2 - 5x + 4 >= 0, x >= 0

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(x-4)(x-1) >= 0

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x1 = 4

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x2 = 1

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and this is fine since x is greater than zero

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now

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when x is less than zero

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(-x)^2 - 5 (-x) + 4 >= 0, x < 0

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x^2 + 5x + 4 >= 0, x < 0

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(x+4)(x+1) >= 0

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x3 = -4
x4 = -1

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and this is fine since our x values are defined to be negative

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so you have 4 solutions to what you have in the pic

real imp
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yes but what confuses me is

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when only x is absolute

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does the whole thing go absolute as well

median trail
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it doesn't matter, yes because the x are the same

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x^2 - 5 abs(x) + 4 >= 0

x^2 is like abs(x)^2

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abs(x)^2 - 5 abs(x) + 4 <= 0

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(abs(x) - 4) (abs(x) - 1) <= 0

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abs(x) - 4 = 0

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when x >= 0, x is positive

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x1 = 4

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when x < 0, x is negative (-x)

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-x - 4 = 0
x2 = -4

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abs(x) - 1 = 0

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when x>= 0, x is positive

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x - 1 = 0
x3 = 1

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when x < 0, x is negative (-x)

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-x - 1 = 0
x4 = -1

real imp
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uh

median trail
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as you can see I get the same solutions

real imp
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you confused me

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ok so like

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x^2 - 5 abs(x) + 4 >= 0 is the same as abs(x^2 - 5 x + 4) >= 0?

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that's what im asking

median trail
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no

real imp
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uhh

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so uhhh

median trail
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you just have to remember how abs value is defined

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what is confusing? so that I can address that specifically

real imp
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i really dont know how to do it

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i dont understand your explanation

median trail
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so in order to solve for x what you have in the picture

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you have to consider first when x is greater than zero

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and then when x is less than zero

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because that's how the function abs(x) is defined

fathom flame
median trail
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he basically wrote what I sent a few minutes ago

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you can not factorize having an abs value in the polynomial

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so you have to find a way "to get rid of" it

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and you do it by using the definition

real imp
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this rule thing

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i could really use a drawing tablet

median trail
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ehmm no

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you are just saying, okay if x is greater or equal to zero then x is positive so I don't need the abs value notation

real imp
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i got it from julioprofe

fathom flame
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i think he can see it more clearly if u prove it edsel

real imp
median trail
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yea but in that case all the polynomial have to be surrounded by the abs value notation

real imp
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why?

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its result is already considering both cases

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in the inequation

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inequality*

median trail
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you could do this:

real imp
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+-a = b is the same as a=+-b

median trail
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|x| <= (-x^2 - 4)/-5

(-x^2 - 4)/-5 <= x <= (-x^2 - 4)/-5

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because all the stuff that's on the left have side have to be surrounded by the abs value notation

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in order to what you showed be true

real imp
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wait but

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you didnt change the sign

median trail
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?

real imp
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-((-x^2 - 4)/-5) <= x <= (-x^2 - 4)/-5

median trail
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ah yea

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sorry

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but I hope you get my point

real imp
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ok yes that i do get

median trail
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you can not use those properties unless what's on the left hand side is surrounded by the abs value notation

real imp
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so fair ive been able to solve the ones that are fully surrounded by absolute

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ahhh ok

median trail
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and imo you shouldn't rely on that property since it's so time consuming that you'll be wasting a lot of time

real imp
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what how is it time consuming

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is there a faster way?

median trail
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you have to solve for abs(x)

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then use the property

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and then solve both inequalities

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you can just use the definition and get all the values of x right away

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as I showed you above

real imp
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but like, doing them like that is ok right?

median trail
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yes

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those are okay that way

real imp
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coolio

median trail
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but in this case where the abs is like inside the polynomial

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and the whole polynomial isn't surrounded by the notation

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it doesn't make sense to use that property since you can just use the abs value definition

real imp
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ok ok lets see if i can get to the result

real imp
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Ok

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Took me a while but

median trail
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yea exactly

real imp
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niceee

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thanks

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guys

median trail
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np

real imp
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if the value of b changes

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ah no nothing

fathom flame
exotic kiteBOT
median trail
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what the fuck

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@abstract scaffold are lines just the same thing as the linear combination of a vector and a point?

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like

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(x,y) = t(x0, y0) + (0, b)

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for instance, let's assume x0 and y0 are 2 and 3 respectively, and b = 2

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it's the same thing as y = 3/2x + 2

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like if x = 1 then y = 7/2

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so we got the point (1, 7/2), and if t = 1/2 then (x,y) = (1, 7/2)

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:00000000000000

median trail
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and it makes total sense that if a subvectorial space is a line it has to pass through the origin (0,0)

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because if we let v1 and v2 be vectors that are parallel to the the linear combination t(2,3) + (0,2), and if v1 = (d, c) and (-d,a)

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therefore

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v1+v2 =/= (0,0)

vestal pine
median trail
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v1 + v2 = (0,c-a)

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and since it isn't the (0,0), this means I can not multiply none of the vectors by 0 because it's simply impossible to reach

real imp
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@abstract scaffold are lines just the same thing as the linear combination of a vector and a point?
@median trail yeah

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Thats the definition of line iirc

median trail
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what

real imp
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En transformación linear creo que era

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Te enseñan eso

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O algo similar

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Capaz me estoy confundiendo

median trail
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yea it makes sense

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a linear transformation is even better since it's what's taking place in this operation

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like

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you have one input matrix

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and the i and j vectors would be the one of the slope and the one of the interception with the y axis

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but we are not scaling the latter

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just the former

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if we would let both scale we get R^2

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thanks ticko uwu

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my "what" was referring to the fact I didn't know it was the definition of a line lol

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I thought it would be something more related to triangles or something along those lines

abstract scaffold
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@median trail yeah. that what a line is in R^2

abstract scaffold
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solo dibujé la funcción.

etapa 1: dibuja la funcción sin el valor absoluto f(x)
etapa 2: luego dibuja f(|x|)

para dibujar f(|x|), guarda el dibujo de la funccion f(x) que satisfecha x>=0 y quita la parte en la región x<0.

luego, refleja la parte del dibujo que todavía tienes en x=0.

etapa 3: ahora tienes f(|x|)

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y ahora sólo necesitas ver cuáles partes están en la región y >= 0 (ignora la parte azul)

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@real imp

abstract scaffold
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si lo haces con álgebra, sólo necesitas resolverlo con cuidado para que no se incluya las partes azules en el gráfico.

no necesitas mostrarlo en la cantidad en la manera que he resuelto pero ten cuidado.

abstract scaffold
past harbor
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En vez de ''etapa'' puedes decir ''fase''

Fase 1: Dibuja la función […]
, guarda el dibujo de la función
¿A qué te refieres con 'satisfecha'?

La parte azul la he quitado ... @abstract scaffold

exotic kiteBOT
abstract scaffold
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se me olvido el verbo satisfacer

que satisface la desigualidad x>=0 (?

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keep the part that satisfies x greater than or equal to 0

eager wagon
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satisface / cumple?

past harbor
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Mantén/Quédate con la parte/el trozo que cumple/cumpla ...

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Satisfacer es más para personas

still radish
hollow wedge
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pucha

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cuánto tardó alcanzar esto?

still radish
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creé mi cuenta 11/12/19

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intento lograr 100% fast track

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pero tomará mucho tiempo

median trail
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Satisfacer also works

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@abstract scaffold

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I use it

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in these cases

abstract scaffold
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k

unreal pagoda
still radish
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perdón

median trail
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@abstract scaffold are you there?

abstract scaffold
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si

median trail
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ok

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I have a question about 3d lines, and their basis vector(?

abstract scaffold
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ok, i'll try.

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hit me.

median trail
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what would be the basis vector(? for this line

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like the vector that can be scaled so that it generates all the posible vectors

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that are parallel to it

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my bet was something like

(2,0,0) + t(0,-2,3)

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I don't know what to do with the fact that x doesn't have a t

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oh wait

abstract scaffold
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yeah, it's just a 2d plane

median trail
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the exercise is the one above the one I highlighted sorry haha

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yeah, it's just a 2d plane
this is what I thought

abstract scaffold
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make x=2 the flat plane

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and then use than to draw your like z = -3y/2

median trail
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interesting, and why the one I highlighted is a line, and the one above a plane?

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ohhhhh

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the one below are three planes and the line is where they all intersect?

abstract scaffold
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i think that's how you interpret it.

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there's a line z = -3y/2 but it also has to satisfy x = 2

median trail
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ye

real imp
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Satisfacer es más para personas
@past harbor satisfacer es usado en matemáticas

abstract scaffold
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@median trail i dunno tho. i suck at 3d shit.

past harbor
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Jamás he oído satisfacer

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en matemáticas

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quizás se use allí

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Ah, pues

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Parece que sí

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Gracias por el dato, jamás oí tal cosa 😄

median trail
abstract scaffold
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yeah, i dunno how to use geogebra haha

median trail
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the dashed line is the line

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hahahah

abstract scaffold
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i never had to use 3d stuff

median trail
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I see

abstract scaffold
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just did things algebraically in N dimensions

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wait i lie. i did at one point. but only once.

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or maybe twice. but it was very rare, porque solo tuve que usar mathematica para graficar algunas funciones en 3D, pero en realidad no entendí nada. sólo esperaba que la gráfica fuera correcta

median trail
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I don't know why but proving stuff for N dimensions sounds hard Peepohide

abstract scaffold
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yes, it is.

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porque no vivimos en N dimensions

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it's all pure algebra at that point

median trail
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yea

abstract scaffold
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no se puede usar una gráfica para ayudarte

median trail
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I think 21 dimensions or so is for string theory in physics (?

abstract scaffold
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not sure, but that shit went too far out of my capacity to understand

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i just half arsed it and "passed"

median trail
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hahah

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and what kinds of jobs could you apply for being a mathematician besides being a teacher

past harbor
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Español, F 😄

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Sabes hacerlo

abstract scaffold
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quizá algo como un científico de datos o un analista de investigación operativa (optimizar cosas)

ser actuario (lol, nochance)

pero para ser honesto no se mucho

median trail
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and have you already applied for some jobs?

abstract scaffold
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en este momento, no. will probably do so cuando esta pandemia se acabe

real imp
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hey guys

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b*log(a) equals to?

median trail
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log(a^b)

real imp
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thx

abstract scaffold
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la prueba.

(a^b)^c = a^(bc)
asi que e^(y/b) = a
y (e^(y/b))^b = a^b
=> e^((y/b)*b) = a^b
=> a^b = e^y

median trail
still radish
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well

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good enough

median trail
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good enough is more than enough to me tbh

real imp
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i can't use a calculator in this class :(

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which is VERY stupid

median trail
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hahaha I'm just joking ticko

real imp
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no but like

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in argentina i could

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use one

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but here i can

median trail
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I can use one in linear algebra, thank god I can

real imp
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i can't imagine doing lin alg without a calculator

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and software

median trail
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it doesn't make any sense not to use one

real imp
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like why tf do i have to do by myself

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something that has already been done

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by other people

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millions of times

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i'm not studying to be a mathematician

median trail
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let's trust mathematicians, if they proved it then it must be true

still radish
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I agree. No need to reinvent the wheel

median trail
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in all seriousness this is true haha

abstract scaffold
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pues hay cosas que necesitas hacer con cuidado, por ejemplo la regla de l'hospital y el limite de sin(x)/x, x->0

la razon por la que una persona necesita saber la prueba para este limite es que no se puede usar la regla de l'hospital aqui ya que primero necesitas saber la derivada de sin(x).... pero para saber la derivada, necesitas saber este limite, asi que es circular referencing.

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por eso, hay otra manera para probar este limite.

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without knowing some proofs, you might accidently circular reference.

median trail
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I don't even understand why the idea of limits work, like I understand most of the teorems and ideas I've read, but I feel like there's something we are assuming as true(?

abstract scaffold
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el limite que me duele la cabeza es la definicion de "e"

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que suerte para edsel e = pi

median trail
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decimal places are just small errors panda_rolleyes

still radish
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limits seem common sense enough

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the derivative of x2 is not approximately 2x

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it is exactly 2x

glass dragon
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<@236575896327290880?

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@midnight blade

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talk to me here

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nevermind

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somebody fixed your roles

real imp
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decimal places are just small errors :panda_rolleyes:
@median trail i love this quote and imma steal it

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g'day

median trail
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Is there a way to "unlike" every facebook page I've ever liked?

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I want to "Englishfy" my timeline

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but I first must get rid of all the spanish on it

thin copper
#

I should do that on twitter (already did it on instagram: following a bunch of news accounts)

cinder canyon
#

henlo please do my survey for a school project

glass dragon
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Doesn't starting your question with "considering we live in a more global society" bias your answers?

still radish
#

fair question

hazy zealot
#

With a tag like #freedomofspeech coupled with so many linguistic pitfalls, I will not respond to it.

I wish you the best of luck!

glass dragon
#

Well, I responded anyway

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I'm sure he'll learn about all the ways his survey biased the answers he got when he writes his final report

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So it didn't bother me at all

glass dragon
#

Does anybody know why the i7 8700k is more expensive than the 9700k?

still radish
#

No but you've intrigued me

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I remember for graphics card some of the lower spec models were selling for more since they were more economical for mining bit coins

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let me know if you find out

severe vortex
#

Yeah I don't know that's kinda weird

rain ermine
#

because its intel just buy AMD wesmart

median trail
fallow dock
#
System.out.println(
  ((java.util.function.Function<java.util.List<String>, String>)(x -> "[" + String.join(", ", x) + "]" )).apply(java.util.Arrays.asList("uno", "dos", "tres"))
);```enterprise code
severe vortex
#

Enterprise software is consistently trash lmao

fallow dock
#

it's not real anyway, I wrote it out of boredom

#

I remember this Java meme with a loop to find the power of a number or something like that, it was really funny

hollow wedge
#

lol

#

this looks like something that has been trasnpiled

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What is modular algebra?

glass dragon
#

because its intel just buy AMD wesmart
@rain ermine Intel is still better for gaming, and that's all I use my PC for

rain ermine
#

hmm

fallow dock
#

do you play >= 4k?

glass dragon
#

No

real imp
#

intel better for gaming?

#

you sure?

#

last i heard ryzen was doing amazing

ocean otter
#

Idk about now, but amd has always had afordable price and multicore performance

#

But intel has had the fastest core speeds

#

And also, it gets the most love from software developers

median trail
#

isn't it single core speed?

ocean otter
#

Yeah probably xD

median trail
#

hahaha pretty sure it's worth to mention

ocean otter
#

And videogames (for the most part) are not heavy multicore workloads

hollow wedge
#

why do you need to specify "single"?

ocean otter
#

So, I'd say yes, intel is the best for videogames (though I dont know much about computers) xD

#

You dont ussually use a single core if you have more than 1

abstract scaffold
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@median trail i mean quiza necesitas numeros binarios para hacer algunas calculaciones en algebra modular.

ocean otter
#

I guess its just weird terminology

hollow wedge
#

no but I guess core speed is the same as clock speed right?

#

and if you have many cores you still just have a single clock speed

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afaik

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or a single max-clock speed

ocean otter
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Yes but i think if you put all of the cores to work at max, the speed decreases

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I guess single core speed means how fast is the core when not all of them are full of work

hollow wedge
#

I guess

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I didn't know that putting them all to max would lower speed

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but then modern architecture is friggin complicated

ocean otter
#

Idk im not 100tifik xD

median trail
hollow wedge
#

I just learned about an ancient one in my class

ocean otter
#

Edsel is the expert here

median trail
#

nah

hollow wedge
#

edsel, speak expert!

median trail
#

cries

hollow wedge
#

are you learning computer architecture?

median trail
#

not yet

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haha

hollow wedge
#

oh, what are you learning?

#

logic gates and such?

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karnough maps?

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boolean algebra

median trail
#

I'm learning about networking, my networking class is the CCNA Cisco course

hollow wedge
#

ooh

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I wanna learn networking

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I'm pretty bad at it peepocry

median trail
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peepocry I love it but Cisco includes so much info that's difficult to keep up sometimes

#

even for our tests my teacher let us use notes that we take

hollow wedge
#

do you get to have one piece of paper?

#

what do you have to do in the test?

median trail
#

My notebook

hollow wedge
#

configure a network?

median trail
#

Yeah and checking connection between all devices

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she gives us a table with addresses, and the structure we have to build

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and we do it from scratch

#

Imma show you an example

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well...

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let me find an example in English

#

this is easy since in order to configure a switch and a router you follow almost the same steps

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you just gotta be careful with the addresses you use and the default gateways

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of course we don't use DHCP since we got to learn how to set IPv4 addresses manually

ocean otter
#

"Your network manager is impressed with your performance in your job" xD

median trail
#

yea they include a scenario for some reason lol

no one reads that, though

ocean otter
#

Also, I've read it is "single core performance"

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I think its cool xD

median trail
#

Watching too many videos by Linus TechTips was fruitful then

ocean otter
#

Yeah thats how i got the degree i think i have but i actually dont have in computer science xD

hollow wedge
#

That's kinda cool

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I should learn about this stuff

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I know how it works on a high level

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but I don't know anything about the details

median trail
#

I like this, but sometimes this gets too specific

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and it's difficult to find examples online depending on what you are learning

#

I should actually join a networking server

real imp
#

aaaaaaaaaa i wish i was studying that

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and not fucking maths

median trail
#

what semester are you in

real imp
#

1

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hardstuck at first semester

fallow dock
#

yea they include a scenario for some reason lol

no one reads that, though
@median trail how comes, it sounds like a great intro for a visual novel

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Manager-san gazes at you and blushes

ocean otter
#

Juan, the manager, has 83 routers...

real imp
#

Hey guys

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can I use 0 as the multiplier in ruffini

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i got the polynome x^3+2x

median trail
#

why zero

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no, in order to factorise using ruffini you need a number that's not multiplied by x

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so in that case just factor out the x

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and the factorize

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x(x^2 + 2)

real imp
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so i solve using bhaskara?

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what do i do with the x that's multiplying?

median trail
#

nothing, it's just a factor

real imp
#

cool

median trail
#

in fact x = 0 is a solution

real imp
#

well am i just a genius or what

median trail
#

and since a sum of squares can not be factorised in real numbers you are done

real imp
#

ok so my thought process was

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no independent member

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bam

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can't get any results when doing ruffini unless you use 0

median trail
#

😅

real imp
#

i mean those two statements are unrelated

fathom flame
real imp
#

hol up

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thats wrong lol

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ah no nvm

abstract scaffold
#

I mean, si tecnicamente se puede usarlo, pero si x, o sea (x-0) is a factor, then all of the terms have a common factor of x.

real imp
#

what's the difference between (x+0) and (x-0)

median trail
#

none

real imp
#

coolio

abstract scaffold
#

1 = 1-0 = 1+0

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mind = blown

fathom flame
real imp
#

was just asking bc its weird that you preferred to use - instead of +

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weird to me at least xd

abstract scaffold
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because that's the rule to use the division (x-a)

real imp
#

you're saving ink i give you that

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agora sim manito

median trail
#

it's just that you usually write the factor by multiplying the root by -1

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like

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yea pretty much what f14 said

real imp
#

cool

#

edsel

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no sé cómo llegar al resultado

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a mano

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llego a x=sqrt(-8)/2

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cuando aplico bhaskara a x^2+2

abstract scaffold
#

ah si

#

x^2 + 2 = 0
x^2 = -2
x = sqrt(-2)

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lo cual es un numero complejo

real imp
#

claro

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no tiene raíces

abstract scaffold
#

indeed.

real imp
#

o sea que x no es 0

#

no?

abstract scaffold
#

no hay raices reales.

real imp
#

genial

abstract scaffold
#

las raices alli son complejas

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or to be more specific. in this case it's purely imaginary

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sqrt(2)*i

real imp
#

yeah

abstract scaffold
#

+/- sqrt(2)i

real imp
#

this wiggly line boi is just hangin around

abstract scaffold
real imp
median trail
#

hahahahaj

gusty ermine
#

i hope not

median trail
#

no

abstract scaffold
#

i brainfarted. tecnicamente no necesité usar cálculo

median trail
#

ye

#

its a parabola

fathom flame
abstract scaffold
#

i brainfarted where the stationary point was. but then i realised in the middle of my working.

median trail
#

the vertex(? is at (0, 2)?

abstract scaffold
#

yep. just needed to shift it up. lmao

gusty ermine
#

is calculo "calculus"?

median trail
#

yes

gusty ermine
#

very cool

#

@fathom flame who tf are you

#

@abstract scaffold is that kanji or hanzi in your name btw

abstract scaffold
#

@real imp x^2+2 no tiene raíces reales

pero x^3 + 2x = x(x^2+2) sí tiene una raíz real (x=0), pero solo hay uno.

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@gusty ermine could be both

gusty ermine
#

true but which did you intend it to be

real imp
#

wait what

#

but...

#

how is that possible

#

they are the same function

abstract scaffold
#

no.

real imp
#

but

gusty ermine
#

no.

real imp
#

how come they not be the same function

#

if they are equal

abstract scaffold
#

x(x^2+2) no es igual a x^2+2

real imp
#

yeah but you said x(x^2+2)

#

im confused now

gusty ermine
#

i'm on your side for once @real imp

real imp
#

ok so i asked before

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how to get to a root

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by hand

abstract scaffold
#

cos i thought u were talking about x^2+2 on its own

real imp
#

ah no

abstract scaffold
#

but then i realised you were talking about x^3+2x

real imp
#

i asked if i could just use x^2+2 and forget about the x()

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to get the roots

abstract scaffold
#

y eso tiene una raiz real y 2 complejas

#

you could use x^2+2=0 para buscar raices complejas, pero no hay nada mas que puedas hacer.

real imp
#

ok but

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how do i get the roots then

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i don't understand your method

#

what's dy/dx?

abstract scaffold
#

primer fase: buscar factores comunes

dy/dx is differential calculus (dont worry about it)

real imp
#

i can not use a calculator

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ok

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common factor x

abstract scaffold
#

in that case x was a common factor

gusty ermine
#

@real imp i'm pretty good at math ngl

#

post the original question and i'll help lmao

real imp
#

thanks for the info bro

gusty ermine
#

awww

abstract scaffold
#

then start doing your method ruffini. but in this case... you're done already.

gusty ermine
#

what's the original question

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i wanna have a look at it

abstract scaffold
#

because you already reduced it to x(x^2+2)

real imp
#

you can have a look at it by scrolling up, otherwise please let 14 help me whatthink

gusty ermine
#

i'm unironically eating Turkish delight right now. dammit the taste of secularity

real imp
#

then start doing your method ruffini. but in this case... you're done already.
@abstract scaffold have i? i thought i couldnt use 0

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for ruffini

abstract scaffold
#

yeah, you can't in this case anymore

#

x(x^2+2) is the most factorised

real imp
#

ok so

#

how can i say from there

#

that x = 0

abstract scaffold
#

porque si x^3 + 2x = 0
=> x(x^2+2) = 0
entonces x = 0 o x^2+2 = 0

real imp
#

ahhhhhhhhhh

#

hankel's thing

#

ok

abstract scaffold
#

if the question just said "factorise this", then don't say x = 0

real imp
#

that makes a lot of sense

#

yeah no

#

i just gotta find the roots

#

but if it were factorise this

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then (x-0)=0

abstract scaffold
#

yeah, just factorise and done.

#

no need division

real imp
#

great thank you

abstract scaffold
#

if the question just said factorise x^3 + 2x

tu respuesta final deberia ser: x(x^2+2) nomas

real imp
#

oh

#

but

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hm

#

aight

abstract scaffold
#

factorise x^3 + 2x is different to

solve x^3+2x = 0

real imp
#

yeah ik

#

this one is the latter

abstract scaffold
#

but with the second, you would use factorisation first to get your way to the solution

real imp
#

also quick question

#

log(a) + log(b) = log(ab) right?
what about log(a) * log(b)?

#

how do I solve the latter by hand?

gusty ermine
#

i don't think you can in many cases

abstract scaffold
#

so yeah, si es una ecuacion, escribe x = 0 {y si tambien quiere que busques raices complejas, resuelva x^2+2 = 0 tambien}

log(a)*log(b) no tiene otra forma

y si, log(a) + log(b) = log(ab)

gusty ermine
#

like that's the maximum it can be simplified

real imp
#

log(a)*log(b) no tiene otra forma
welp this is gonna be a messy matrix

abstract scaffold
#

si es log(1) o log(e), se puede simplificarlo mas ya que ln(1) = 0 log_a(1) = 0 {a^0 = 1} y log_e(e) = 1 {e^1=e}

real imp
abstract scaffold
#

that is indeed gross

#

no se si es correcto porque no se cuales ecuaciones con las que empazaste.

real imp
#

seems like its wrong or idk

abstract scaffold
#

@real imp para y, tu numerador es correcto, pero el denomiador, no.

#

(log(a))^b no es igual a blog(a)

real imp
#

wut

#

i know that

#

wait what

#

where

#

what no

#

u sure?

abstract scaffold
#

log(a^b)

#

not (log(a))^b

real imp
#

oh...

#

fudge

abstract scaffold
#

but either than that, parece que todo esta bien

real imp
#

except for the

#

grossness

#

of it

abstract scaffold
#

yeah, it's just gross.

#

se puede cambiar log(4) a log(4) = log(2^2) = 2log(2)
=> log(2)log(4) = 2(log(2))^2

real imp
#

nice

abstract scaffold
#

pero todavia se ve feo

real imp
#

im not gonna go back and change it because its just too much work and too confusing

abstract scaffold
#

what u left it as is fine (apart from the denominator)

#

no he chequeado si x es correcto ya

#

ah. x has a cleaner form.

hollow wedge
#

mousemath

real imp
#

welp

#

too complicated for me

#

i could barely do it this way

gusty ermine
#

@rain ermine Explain yourself

still radish
#

pensó que estás bueno

gusty ermine
#

Un buen curso de C# en español

still radish
#

muy bien

#

programación es popular aquí

median trail
#

consiga*

fallow dock
#

em, copié con el filtro, pero hay muchas más cosas que CS

real imp
#

CS50 está bueno sí

median trail
#

but do I have to attend classes or something?

#

I'm interested in the mathematics ones

still radish
#

no I believe it is self study in your own time

median trail
#

omg

#

I wanna do it

fallow dock
#

la verdad que ni idea, pero dan certificados por completarlos (si pagás, cuánto depende del curso, suelen ser entre $50 y $150 si te interesa eso)

#

así que asumo que hay algún tipo de trabajo o test al menos

fathom flame
#

te dejan ejercicios creo

median trail
#

@ashen mist are you there?

ashen mist
#

#

@median trail qué necesitás

median trail
#

okay

#

I have a networking question

#

when we say 192.168.0.1/24 means the the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 so the host addresses will be in the last octet, right?

#

this also means that we can not vary the first three octet since they represent a network?

#

instead of 31

#

16 = 00001000
31 = 00001111

#

where does this additional 1 come from

ashen mist
#

/24 works out nicely because each octet contains 8 bits

median trail
#

brb

#

I will read your answers once I'm back

ashen mist
#

if you look at the binary version of the net mask, the netmask is 11111111 11111111 11111111 00000000, which is 255.255.255.0

#

the netmask is 24 bits long, so you have 24 1's and 8 0's

#

for 172.16.0.0/12, the netmask is 12 bits long

#

so it's 11111111 11110000 00000000 00000000

#

you have 20 free bits to represent the hosts

#

if you look at the second octet of 172.16.0.0, itll be 0001 0000. The second octet of the net mask is 1111 0000, so you can freely edit the last 4 zeroes of the 2nd octet in the host address while still staying within the network mask

#

so the biggest address would fill in the second octet like 0001 1111

#

which is 31. (16 + 8 + 4 + 2 + 1)

median trail
#

wait what the fuck

#

I read 32 instead of 31

#

yeah it makes total sense

ashen mist
#

LOL

median trail
#

but host addresses would go from 0000 0001 to 0000 1110?

ashen mist
#

I think the first address is reserved as the network address, and the last address is reserved as the broadcast address

#

so 172.16.0.0 is reserved, 172.16.255.255 would be used as broadcast

median trail
#

I thought network addresses had only 0 in the host portion

ashen mist
#

sí, no dije eso?

median trail
#

because of the ANDing

#

ah

#

bear with me CryingPanda

#

haha

#

yea

#

tru

ashen mist
#

estás volando con el inglés

median trail
#

regarding broadcast, what's the difference between limited and directed broadcast?

ashen mist
#

hmm no sé. tendría que buscarlo

#
You are misunderstanding the use of directed and limited broadcasts. 255.255.255.255 is a limited broadcast: it is not passed on by routers, so it is really useful only to a member of a LAN to contact all other members of the same LAN. But routers will not forward these broadcasts because, if they did, these broadcasts would fill the whole internet. So they are useful, in Layer-3, and limited.

Directed broadcasts are represented by, for instance, 192.168.1.255. These are passed on by routers, because of course they are less invasive than 255.255.255.255, even though this feature is often disabled in real-world routers because it is easily abused (you'll see why in a second). If I am a member of of the subnet 192.168.1.0/24, then it makes little difference whether I use as a broadcast 255.255.255.255or 192.168.1.255.But suppose now I am a member of the subnet 192.168.2.0/24, and I want to send a broadcast to all members of a different subnet, say, 192.168.1.0/24. How can I do that? I cannot use 255.255.255.255 because that is restricted to the LAN of the emitter, 192.168.2.0/24 in this example, and thus it will never reach 192.168.1.0/24 because routers drop these packets. But, aha, I can use 192.168.1.255 from outside 192.168.1.0/24 to reach all members of the network with a single broadcast, because the router separating my subnet, 192.168.2.0/24 from the target subnet, 192.168.1.0/24 will pass these packets on.
median trail
#

subnets are nets that are connected to the same router but in different interfaces, right?

ashen mist
#

creo que eso es una manera de hacerlo

#

pues, un router puede estar conectado a varias redes a la misma vez también

#

subnet is just a division of a bigger network

#

so for 192.168.1.0/24, 192.168.1.0/27 would be a subnet

gusty ermine
#

Is it just me or are children books full of words I'd never use thonk

gentle heath
#

read maths papers

#

you'll defo never use those words

gusty ermine
#

Oye, I translate the many words I don't know from a Spanish kids book- but some words I haven't ever heard of in English :o

#

You're a native English speaker right? @gentle heath

#

How many times does the average native English speaker use the word "shrubbery" in a week? thonk

ashen mist
#

no mucho, pero los nativos van a saber qué significa esa palabra

cloud drift
#

La verdad no me queda muy claro cuál es la diferencia de este canal y general peepohide

ashen mist
#

es para que la gente pueda hablar de un tema que no les interesa a los demás, o continuar una conversación después de que se acabe en el canal original

cloud drift
#

Ohhh eso tiene sentido

#

Creí que era usado simplemente como un canal que algunos usaban xd

ashen mist
#

jaja

#

bueno, usualmente se habla de matemáticas y programación acá

cloud drift
#

Sip por eso xd

#

Solo veo eso

#

Qué buen tema, hablar de qué temas se hablan acá peepohide

ashen mist
#

meta canal

cloud drift
#

xd

median trail
ashen mist
#

Si tu computadora quiere usar DHCP, eso significa que quiere que un servidor de DHCP le dé una dirección de IP. Si ese servidor no existe o no está disponible, entonces automáticamente tu computadora va a asignarse a sí mismo una dirección de 169.254.0.0/16, lo cual está reservado para esto

real imp
#

I haven't read what you've been talking about

#

but just remember

#

DHCP basically gives IP automatically to the connected devices

#

that's just it

#

whenever you plug a new device with DHCP enabled, poof

#

new IP address, no need to do anything manually

fallow dock
#

I'd like some Intellectual Property please

#

I'm doing my work on aesthetics during the Enlightenment and it's taking me so much time

#

I'm not a fan of philosophy

shut ocean
#

Soy el más perron aqui

fallow dock
#

y eso qué es

#

llevás un fursuit?

shut ocean
#

Es un meme del doblaje de naruto ._.

fallow dock
#

oh

main hatch
#

My internet connection is so amazing that I started downloading a 4.83 GB DLC at around 2 PM. It’s now 2 AM and it’s already at 48% downloaded! Amazing! /s

old shell
ashen mist
#

@real imp yeh pero se necesita un servidor de DHCP para administrar las direcciones dados. La computadora que va a recibir la dirección IP no puede elegir su propia dirección para la red porque no sabe cuáles ya están usadas

real imp
#

you sure?

ashen mist
#

por eso si no hay un servidor disponible o si la computadora no puede conectarse a ese servidor, va a elegir esa dirección reservada de APIPA

real imp
#

We did it in our pc maintenance class

ashen mist
#

DHCP requiere un servidor y un cliente

real imp
#

I mean sure, the school probably had a server

#

but we just used... the internet?

#

I mean I assume every single router has DHCP

#

Nowadays, ofc

#

I've made lanparties at home

ashen mist
#

podés configurar el servidor para determinar el rango de direcciones válidas para su red

real imp
#

and never had to configure anything

#

just plugged the devices to the router

ashen mist
#

creo que la configuración ya existe por defecto

real imp
#

claro

#

es que no es user friendly sino

ashen mist
#

pero si arranco una VM sin conectarlo con un router o servidor de DHCP (o si lo arranco sin conexiones de red), entonces va a darse la dirección de APIPA

#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address

Link-local addresses may be assigned manually by an administrator or by automatic operating system procedures as self-assigned IP addressing. For Internet Protocol (IP) networks, they are assigned most often using stateless address autoconfiguration. In IPv4, link-local addresses are normally only used when no external, stateful mechanism of address configuration exists, such as the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP), or when another primary configuration method has failed.[3] In IPv6, link-local addresses are always assigned (usually in addition to other addresses) and required for the internal functioning of various protocol components.[4]

In a computer network, a link-local address is a network address that is valid only for communications within the network segment or the broadcast domain that the host is connected to. Link-local addresses are most often assigned automatically through a process known as statel...

median trail
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@ashen mist I have a question, when working with IPv6 addresses, the local-link address of the router is the default gateway?

ashen mist
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què

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no entiendo tu pregunta

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default gateway es para routing

median trail
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if I'm using IPv6 addresses, what's the default gateway?

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@ashen mist

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I think it's the link local address, but I'm not sure

ashen mist
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ah

median trail
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and how many link local addresses does a router have? because each interface has an IPv6 address

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but those IPv6 would be global?

ashen mist
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no sé

past harbor
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@ashen mist estás ocupado?

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na da igual

ashen mist
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estoy

past harbor
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sabes de css?

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algo no me va y estoy hasta las pelotas

unborn wraith
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@old shell Hilary's? No, no

old shell
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Lol... the interviewer, not Hilary dogekek @unborn wraith

past harbor
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Tengo esto

ashen mist
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no mucho jaja lo siento

past harbor
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.miOrdenar {
    color: rgb(0, 194, 29);
}

Y en HTML esto: <button type="submit" class="btn btn-link miOrdenar">

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ah okay

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no importa entonces

old shell
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right? @unborn wraith

median trail
old shell
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las hojas blobaww

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BFS

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DFS

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red-black blobaww

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i forget if theres more

median trail
unborn wraith
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@old shell He's got a nice accent. But there's a bit of a problem with it. I'll tell you about it later

still radish
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Jeremy Pacman peepoez

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well Hillary certainly speaks better than Trump

unborn wraith
still radish
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I'm undecided if we need our leaders to be good orators though

median trail
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omg checking the order in a tree is so fun!!!!

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I kind of want to make an app where you have to choose an order given a tree

rain ermine
ashen mist
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los árboles

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los robles

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los sauces

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los arces

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los tejos

fallow dock
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el árbol rojo negro en brainfuck

median trail
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pandasad that's not how it's translated

unborn wraith
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@old shell Okay so... It's rather difficult for me to constantly pronounce my short a sounds (from my Spanish perspective: the vowel sound in man and the vowel sound in fun) the way he does. So I started to listen to ppl that pronounce the a in man more closely to an /e/, that way I can pronounce the vowel sound in fun (or love, or young) more freely. I don't know if I've explained myself well

old shell
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so you would say that that short a sound is the difference between Paxman's accent and yours? @unborn wraith

unborn wraith
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I believe so, yes, but by no means would I say that I have a fully-formed accent as yet @old shell

old shell
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Fully-formed as in you feel it's still a generic accent?

unborn wraith
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As in it might not be consistent enough

old shell
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I wanted to see if I could get a better ear for the accent to help you out, but idk if that would be possible if I'm not a native to the accent sadcat

unborn wraith
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I really enjoy this accent, for instance

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One second

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Although his /æ/ seem a bit hard

old shell
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do you know what type of English accent Greg Wagland has?

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sadly, I don't know that system of sounds, like you put with /æ/ wolfscared

unborn wraith
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That's the sound in man @old shell

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He's native to "RP" according to his site

median trail
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it was even better thinky

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I got 5 in the data structures midterm too

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my teacher just hasn't uploaded my grade yet

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I even passed the linear algebra midterm for some reason wolfsneaky

fallow dock
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epic

old shell
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@unborn wraith ok i'll see if I can get an ear for his accent, I'd want to help you out more than just saying "oh I think heroism sounded off" dogekek

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i wonder if we could encourage some brits to help with some corrections youwhat

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but i don't know any besides Nexus and Bizzle really

eager wagon
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😮

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Edsel es un chico normal, no me lo puedo creer

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Pensé que solo tenía 4.5-5 / 5 😄

unborn wraith
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@old shell Haha, ty

median trail
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@ashen mist Ipv6 is so confusing to me right now haha I will have to watch videos about it after I finish with this chapter

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and this chapter is too long