Tiene un acento fuerte, pero quizás te puede ayudar
#🍁・general-2
ashen mist
unreal pagoda
kind flax
@median trail I believe IP addresses take into account geography. Think about your computer, it has a MAC address, and your network adapter was assigned an IP address depending on where you are connecting from. Now say you traveled to Russia, your IP address would change but not your MAC. The IP address allows quicker routing from different networks due because the router could know to send all IP addresses that start with 192.x.x.x to one hop, and addresses with 159.x.x.x to another hop.
If you were just using the MAC address think about how time consuming and memory intensive that would be for each router along a path to have to use, since MAC addresses are tied to a physical device and that's it. Your MAC address doesn't change no matter where in the world you are, so how would a router determine where to send your requests?
(roughly speaking)
ashen mist
No se hace routing con direcciones de link layer
kind flax
Right, but this was a thought experiment about why we have IP addresses
MAC addresses still get used from what I remember (hence the need for ARP)
kind flax
Yeah, networking gets pretty complicated when you start getting into the nitty gritty of it all. The need for different protocols, etc becomes more clear as you advance through it all
ashen mist
💩
kind flax
No sé para donde enviar tu hamburguesa MAC, lo siento señor
median trail
you nerds
thin copper
Is C++ a worth learning language? I've been thinking about learning a programming language but that doesn't ask for to many softwares like Java script. .. so I'm looking for one worth learning that's just like installing a compiler and start writing codes.
fallow dock
depende de qué quieras hacer y dónde vivas y tal
C++ todavía se usa y no va a dejar de usarse
a programming language but that doesn't ask for to many softwares like Java script
I'm looking for one worth learning that's just like installing a compiler and start writing codes.
JavaScript tiene un ecosistema enorme y puede ser un poco intimidante articular las herramientas
cosas como tener npm, WebPack, Babel y tal (si te referís a NodeJS)
pero el salto de JS a C++ es bastante grande
y C++ tiene sus mañanas para aprender también
thin copper
Yeah but java script asks for too much I mean the computer I've got is crappy. I don't want to do anything but just learn a language that's kind of useful nowadays
thin copper
It's just more for the sake of learning than anything else. I'd get into java if this computer were better but I'm looking for the simplest way let's say.
Ah ok. What's jvm?
fallow dock
o C#, pero la JVM es muchísima más atractiva hoy en día
JVM es la Java Virtual Machine
oséase...
cuando compilás lenguajes de relativo bajo nivel, como C, y C++, compilás para "tu máquina"
pero hay lenguajes que tienen un interpretador o una "máquina virtual", y los programas que se escriben están compilados todos iguales (en términos de bytecode) para que sean ejecutados ahí
o sea, una VM es un programa-maquinita
y lenguajes para JVM, están Java, Kotlin, Scala, Clojure y tal vez algún otro esotérico
Kotlin es mucho muy lindo
y es bastante user friendly
thin copper
Ok But it's just install a software and that's it? That's what I'm looking for. That it doesn't need many softwares to compile or whatever you call it / I mean I can get into c++ first and then when I get a better computer get into java script or another language. / so with jvm I can write codes? Lol sorry for my ignorance.
fallow dock
estás en Windows?
fallow dock
no me manejo en Windows, tal vez sea ligeramente más complicado, pero los programas necesarios deberían ser los mismos
mortal dagger
¿por qué quieres aprender a programar?
thin copper
Out of curiosity. That's it.
fallow dock
JDK son un conjunto de herramientas para hacer programas para la JVM
mortal dagger
curiosidad de qué
fallow dock
y cada lenguaje tendrá sus propias instrucciones de qué más necesites
mortal dagger
por favor openJDK 🙏
thin copper
It's just curiosity nothing else. I find it interesting. There isn't a reason behind it.
Thanks manu
fallow dock
recomiendo que cheques Kotlin, teniendo en cuenta lo que habías mencionado... so, como sugerencia para este mundo, leé siempre primero la documentación/instrucciones oficiales
no googlees "cómo instalo Kotlin", primero checalo en el sitio de Kotlin
y si surgen problemas, entonces sí recurrí a otros recursos
kind flax
full lols
thin copper
And what do you think about learning C++? Wzrdd / ok manu
ashen mist
"full"
mortal dagger
yo el primer lenguaje que aprendí fue C, después aprendí Ruby y después aprendí C++
C/C++ es el stack que más me gusta pero el que menos me sirve
supongo que todo lo que sé de cómo funciona un computador a nivel de bits lo sé de ahí
kind flax
cómo se dice "low level" en el contexto de programación?
mortal dagger
bajo nivel
fallow dock
bajo nivel
kind flax
gracias!
mortal dagger
pero eso pasa, vas a estar 3~6 meses aprendiendo cómo sumar 1000101000 con 100101010 de la manera más rápida posible
y te va a emocionar
pero no va a ser muy útil salvo casos súper particulares
thin copper
Mmm I see. I'll take a look at kotlin then.
fallow dock
ah, si tu interés es sólo saber "cómo es programar", también podés probar algo como Processing
eso sí es literalmente un programa con un botón de Play
aunque te va a ocultar algunas cosas
mortal dagger
está preciosísimo eso
thin copper
👍
kind flax
C/C++ te da más control sobre la compu que la mayoría de los otros idiomas
por eso son más dificiles a aprender
mortal dagger
C/C++ te dan control sobre tu computador 👍 👍
C#, también conocido como Microsoft™️ Java, te lo quita 🙅♀️ 🙅♂️
ashen mist
Lol
fallow dock
p-pero .NET Core es open source
mortal dagger
nada le ha hecho más daño al OS que Microsoft en toda su historia, por mucho que quieran hacerse los simpáticos ahora siguen siendo la misma empresa con las mismas prácticas que los llevaron a ser monopolio
fallow dock
ese fue el pelado loquito (?)
mortal dagger
developersdevelopersdevelopersdevelopers
fallow dock
mortal dagger
Ballmer es uno de los cocainómanos que más gracia me da y le tengo cierta simpatía, pero hay varias cosas en que no le achuntó
como que nadie iba a comprar el iphone o la grandísima idea de Windows Phone
fallow dock
cocainómano lol
mortal dagger
pero eso, para mí hay 2 grandes visiones de mundo, mientras unos intentaban crear algo en comunidad y sin ánimo de llenarse los bolsillos con eso, otros trataban de aplastar y consumir a todo lo que se le cruzara con tal de juntar un poco más de plata
véase por ejemplo "Renegades of the empire" y el cómo trataron al genio que portó Doom a Windows y dijo que en los 2000 la industria de los juegos iba a ser el principal selling point de Windows
hasta el día de hoy DirectX sigue siendo pieza fundamental de Windows
fallow dock
creí que el selling point de Windows era que ya venía en las notebooks y prebuilts (?)
@thin copper cuál fue tu experiencia con JS exactamente?
fue con NodeJS?
thin copper
Nonexistent because I just installed JDk and then eclipse and then I lost interest right away (don't ask me why) That's why I'm looking for something else.
fallow dock
eso es Java
creo que estás confundiendo JavaScript con Java 
cuando dijiste que te preocupaba por tener una potato computer, pensé que te referías a que andaría muy lento un programa, pero no se me ocurría que podrías haber hecho apenas habiendo aprendido algo
si lo que te molestó fue que el entorno de trabajo fuese lento, como tu IDE o algo así, entonces podemos hablar de eso (?)
pero NodeJS es mucho más... straight forward de usar
[manuel@6500 dev]$ echo "console.log('sup uber');" > uber.js
[manuel@6500 dev]$ node uber.js
sup uber```
exotic kiteBOT
🆙 | manusaurio leveled up!
fallow dock
literalmente node "nombre del archivo" es la forma más básica de ejecutar algo
last loom
@fallow dock do you know anyting about ReactJs?, I'm planning on learning it so I want to know if you know any course/book/webpage that'd be useful.
fallow dock
nope, sorry
sé que usa JSX así que depende de Babel (?)
deberías hacer el tutorial https://reactjs.org/tutorial/tutorial.html
pliant sparrow
por qué vine aquí...
last loom
yup, that's actually what I'm doing rn haha
thin copper
so I just need nodeJS? and that's it
fallow dock
yes... notice that JS is a language though, not a specific implementation or program
roughly speaking, NodeJS is a program that executes JavaScript
and the web browser you use also executes JavaScript, but for different purposes
I don't want to make things harder if you are just starting out, but there are many things you can do in NodeJS, so it's a broad topic
mortal dagger
nodejs es todo un entorno
fallow dock
thus roughly speaking
@thin copper algo que comúnmente vas a usar son programas de otros, hay un concepto llamado librerías
básicamente, en vez de reinventar la rueda, tomás las de alguien más y vos personalizás el auto encima (?)
pero, recién empezando, no estaría mal que intentes... no usar librerías
básicamente porque a veces te fuerzan a seguir ciertos patrones de diseño donde hay lógicas que se aplican menos que otras
Dependiendo del proyecto que tengas
igualmente, depende de vos
también necesitás un editor btw
ashen mist
Microsoft Word
thin copper
an editor? lol, so many things to get into programming 
median trail
@ashen mist We're using wireshark on thursday to see how traffic is in my university network UWU
fallow dock
well you need to write your code somewhere... you could use notepad but that will give you issues later on
like after 1 second
median trail
We're learning about cables and how they are supposed to work
ashen mist
No sé mucho de los cables
median trail
ashen mist
Lol wtf no me digas que tenés que memorizar todo eso
median trail
bad news
fallow dock
@thin copper VSCode/Code OSS are quite popular and have a big community (Code OSS is the fully open source version, not sure how to get it on Windows though, I assume there isn't a user friendly way)
there's also Atom, Sublime, Notepad++
mortal dagger
yo tuve que aprender a armar cables de red y fue dolor
me violenta profundamente que no pongas Vim 😤
fallow dock
no voy a recomendarle Vim a alguien que nunca programó
si luego se vuelve un rarito pos ahí le digo de nuestros editores esotéricos
median trail
I don't use VIM because I don't deserve it
fallow dock
@thin copper no confundas VSCode con Visual Studio btw
el segundo es una IDE y es overkill y te matará
also
thin copper
👍 Notepad++ is for C++? / ok
fallow dock
los editores no suelen ser específicos de lenguajes
Notepad++ soporta montones
he escuchado malas cosas de él pero no con mucho sustento btw
median trail
I used to use a pretty old IDE for programming in C++
fallow dock
en cuanto al uso, debería ser simple
mortal dagger
no, el ++ es un operador incremental, es decir notepad++ significa literalmente "el que viene después de notepad"
median trail
it was called fastC++ or something
fallow dock
ugghhh
ashen mist
Notepae
fallow dock
dev-c++
ed is the standard text editor
https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.en.html todavía me causa gracia
pls lean (?)
mortal dagger
acá había una linux kernel dev que usaba nvi y ed
es famosa en algunos grupos por tener el fibonacci más rápido en Haskell
fallow dock
pkill -9 ed
median trail
I don't like linux, uninstalling stuff is unnecessarily difficult
fallow dock
oh no
mortal dagger
sudo pacman -R [package]
fallow dock
has despertado a los frikis
yay -Rns <package>
Linux es ciertamente intimidante tho
mortal dagger
yo partí con yaourt que horrible
fallow dock
pero ya son muchos años y estoy muy cómodo acá tras haberlo conocido
cuesta un poco (?)
median trail
One day I tried to uninstall a package and I damage something related to the structure of something I don't understand at all
fallow dock
usabas apt?
median trail
I don't know 🤠
Me using linux was 90% of the time looking up commands on the Internet
fallow dock
bueno, si querés volver y querés algo fácil, podés probar Manjaro
mortal dagger
a mí una vez se me apagó el computador durante una actualización y rompió todo, incluído pacman
creo que fue la única vez que sufrí y de verdad sufrí con Linux
fallow dock
ah
mortal dagger
me agrada Manjaro
fallow dock
creo que me pasó algo similar, pero no me costó repararlo
aunque ya ni recuerdo cuál sería la solución ni el problema
mortal dagger
era súper fácil, re-instalarlo desde un live CD
o sea, montar la partición exactamente como si estuvieras instalando desde cero
reconstruir pacman y lo demás se hacía solo
el problema es que de terco no quise ir a comprar un CD
fallow dock
ah, esa experiencia si la he tenido, un par de veces
mortal dagger
y estuve mucho rato intentando cosas raras
fallow dock
para hacer cosas como reparar grub en una máquina con dual boot [Windows]
montar + grub install + reiniciar
mortal dagger
mi primera vez fue con dual boot
fallow dock
pinche notebook maldita que me habían dado
mortal dagger
pero ya con mi último computador llegué y formatié todo
mortal dagger
sí, intenté hacer un dual boot y tratar de no romper Windows era mucho atao
glass dragon
wow, phenix hablando con phenix
mortal dagger
descubrieron mi alt
glass dragon
si jaja
fallow dock
phenix?
mortal dagger
yo fui phenix
glass dragon
wzrdd solia llamarse phenix
fallow dock
a mí me pasó el año pasado ese problema
y necesitaba usar Linux para el trabajo ese (porque no tenía ganas de aprender otro OS)
tonces, tenía Win10, instalé Manjaro (mi primera y única experiencia con él, pero taba lindo)
e ir a Win10 hacía inexplicablemente que se jodiese el UEFI
median trail
windows > linux
fallow dock
usa lo que gustes, Edsel
mortal dagger
la verdad es que sí
median trail
uwu No, I want to force people use what I like
fallow dock
y no encontraba solución alguna
mortal dagger
eso es justamente lo que hace Microsoft
fallow dock
se suponía que era algo de SecureBoot, pero seguía haciéndolo
mortal dagger
acá hubo un tiempo que propusieron usar sofware gratuito en instituciones gubernamentales
fallow dock
tonces cada vez que me volvían a prestar la máquina, tenía que perder 15 minutos reparando grub
mortal dagger
terminó con amenazas de muertes y un par de juicios por lobby
buenos tiempos
SecureBoot es un invento del diablo
fallow dock
y CSM es claramente "conshetumare"
mortal dagger
nunca he tenido esos problemas pero he escuchado historias de terror
yo si busco un computador para comprarme, busco que sea compatible con libreboot y rezo a Dios para que me libre del dolor y el pecado
fallow dock
eh, weno, sho no estoy tan apegado al software libre y tal
creo que sólo lo parece (?)
mortal dagger
no hay por qué ser activista para usarlo
yo siempre he sido de la idea que el sofware libre va a triunfar porque es la mejor manera de producir sofware
además de eso también tengo un punto de vista ético y político que escondo mientras me mantengo sobrio
fallow dock
yo sigo usando Steam y comprando juegos en él (?)
mortal dagger
Steam sí los banco
y trato de comprar los juegos que están para Linux, aunque ya los tenga pirateados
fallow dock
creo que no pirateo nada desde el 2013 xd
mortal dagger
amigo yo soy pobre como las ratas
fallow dock
entendible
mortal dagger
mis compañeros viajan a EEUU, a Francia, a Alemania, a Brasil como si fueran a comprar pan y yo tengo un capital de 2 dólares
que me tienen que durar hasta el 30 de abril
no entiendo cómo lo hacen y no le han trabajado un día a nadie
3 cervezas más y además del sofware libre me pongo a promover el comunismo
fallow dock
lol
yo soy un ser malvado con fines prácticos y no éticos 
pero weno, un amigo mío es más o menos como vos también
we both use arch btw
mortal dagger
yo también creo ser bastante pragmático casi siempre
pero de adolescente fui vegano y un ferviente anarquista
i use arch btw
fallow dock
ya sabemos que somos re pesados, Edsel 😦
median trail
hahahaha
thin copper
Windows 7 
fallow dock
intento no serlo tho, lol
estoy más interesado en ayudar en lo que sea a quien muestre interés en cualquier cosa que sepa
aunque a veces hasta eso me sale mal
intento no ser como el tipo del ackchyually meme
mortal dagger
i use Windows because i have to
i use Linux because i can
decía un viejo adagio
:actually:
fallow dock
bueno, esas cosas puede que choquen un poco, idk, no me gustan
entre las comunidades de programadores muchas veces hay una actitud a la LMGTFY/RTFM que me resulta bastante desagradable
mortal dagger
yo tengo una polera de Mao así
fallow dock
pues no me gusta
mortal dagger
fallow dock
es un clásico, pero me choca bastante
mortal dagger
se entiende
fallow dock
hay mucha gente que legítimamente no sabe leer ese manual, es decir, no sabe interpretarlo, por muy obvio que nos parezca
mortal dagger
pucha, yo igual aprecio demasiado la intención de decir "hola, estaba haciendo esto, no sé cómo hacerlo e intenté esto"
en vez del "háganme la tarea por favor es para 2 horas más"
fallow dock
eso es otra historia
idk, yo ya sé que soy súper pesado tirando siete millones de detalles con cada cosa sobre la que hablo, puede que eso también parezca de sabiondo, pero realmente me apasiona, así que no sé qué efecto tengo yo
pero, no digo que tengas que servirle todos los detalles a alguien, tan solo buscar estrategias para que aprendan a aprender, o sino no responder, eso es todo
si alguien legítimamente sin experiencia no sabe usar X librería y su pregunta parece obvia, tal vez haya atravesado todo un camino de aprendizaje sin tocar ninguna documentación
tal vez sea mucho mejor que muestres el proceso de cómo uno usa esa documentación
mortal dagger
copiando y pegando su pregunta, clickear el primer link, copiar y pegar la primera respuesta
fallow dock
eso tampoco garantiza que aprendan, siendo inexpertos
las respuestas de SO, el 90%, son horribles para gente nueva
creo que soy el único que programa que desprecia StackOverflow (?)
mortal dagger
eso lo entiendo, pero el llegar con un párrafo de una respuesta que no entendiste y preguntar detalles es mucho más bonito
que preguntar "how to download node"
a mí tampoco me gusta SO porque aprendí a programar cuando no tenía internet por 2 años
fallow dock
pues, "how to download node" puede ser en sí misma una buena pregunta
consideremos que depende del sistema o distro en la que estés
y las instrucciones que hayas encontrado, si no sabés, pueden ser de cualquiera
así que puede resultar bastante confuso
mortal dagger
ahí está el punto, yo considero que "how to download node" es una pésima pregunta porque te hace responder siempre las mismas respuestas "depende"
una buena pregunta para mí es "intenté descargar Node en Ubuntu 16.04 y me sale este problema" o "me quedé en este paso y no lo entiendo"
fallow dock
es que el otro no sabe que depende, el otro no tiene el juicio desarrollado para saber qué detalles importan y cuáles no
no tiene por qué gustarte la pregunta, igual, nomás digo
no estoy forzándote a ayudar a nadie
mortal dagger
tampoco le tiraría los carros encima en el 99% del tiempo
pero sí a mí en lo personal me deja un mal sabor de boca
fallow dock
pues no las respondas
mortal dagger
no lo conozco, no me acuerdo quien es, ni siquiera una pregunta de cómo estoy
viene a mí y no me llama Padrino
fallow dock
cada uno tiene que lidiar con sus problemas, no le estoy dando un pase gratis a nadie
qué es "padrino" en este contexto?
mortal dagger
es la escena de como empieza el Padrino, que llega alguien a pedirle un favor
fallow dock
ooh
mortal dagger
claro, no los trato mal y generalmente les ayudo sin cobrarles
porque no me gusta sentirme un mercenario
pero me deja un super mal gusto de boca, porque él no aprendió nada
thin copper
"Tengo dos cervezas, sé que eres bueno en progra. Te puedo hacer una pregunta?"*
mortal dagger
esa sí es una buena pregunta
fallow dock
btw @median trail, qué tal lo que estudias? lo disfrutas?
fallow dock
that's nice to hear
median trail
I would like to become a data analyst
fallow dock
I still don't know if that's the same as a data scientist
lots of Python and R in your future I see
median trail
I love python
fallow dock
have you tried numpy? no idea if that's related to what you do though
median trail
Yes
I didn't understand it when I used it but now I know about matrices, linear algebra and stuff
so most things should be known to me
fallow dock
I never had to use it, but what a cool library
feral merlin
fallow dock
from numpy import array
matrix_a = array([[1, 2, 3],
[4, 5, 6],
[7, 8, 9]])
print(matrix_a[matrix_a > 5]) # -> [6 7 8 9]```feels really naturalI did not know until recently that you can have instances of your own custom classes in a numpy array, I feel dumb
since this is powered by C
I thought it could only use C-compatible types lol
that gives me a dumb idea
real imp
HELLO FELLOW MATHEMATICIANS
yo boy ticko is dumb and can't math for his life
can you help a brother out
median trail
yes uwu
rain ermine
ticko doing advanced shit
glass dragon
The second one, just create an equation. Left hand side is ax²+bx+c but everywhere you see an X replace it was (x+y)
median trail
real imp
edsel u have a whiteboard wow
thanks bro
also you explained it so even better
i really wanna get decent at maths
i hate sucking at them
fallow dock
everything comes with practice
grizzled hedge
^
real imp
yeah ig
fallow dock
I suck at maths too and that won't change because I don't plan to touch it ever again
except in those situations when I have no choice
real imp
@median trail no usaste escalerización por algo en específico?
median trail
No, dice por igualación porque igualé las x de las dos ecuaciones, escalerización es de matrices, no?*
real imp
no sé, nosotros usamos la escalerización de Rouché-Frobenius en SELs
no digo que esté mal tho
mortal dagger
pero con esas 2 estaba fácil igualar nomá
escalonar se nota su maravilla cuando hay muchas ec
median trail
no
real imp
o el logaritmo de 2 en base 10, multiplicado por x?
median trail
sí^
real imp
ok
median trail
median trail
nah, it's just that you have a bunch of logs there haha
rain ermine
Por qué chile 
real imp
único y detergente
worthy pier
Akkaksskk el coronavirus es un chiste
Me imagino en una protesta acá con el corona y PUM ganas un logro en el plague inc XD
thin copper
worthy pier
XDDD súper fast los memeros kfsjfdoañ
sacred harbor
seguro, solo chile 
https://twitter.com/miblogestublog/status/1233532777061990401?s=20
worthy pier
Xdddd
median trail
@real imp
I think this way of proving things is informal but I'm not sure how precise and mathematical correct you wanna be
real imp
idk dude i'll just copy whatever you tell me and ask the prof after
because i really don't know
median trail
okay 
, I ask you this because in engineering major courses we are not as mathematical correct as math major courses
but
median trail
I know, but this depends on the university too, so it's better to do it this way unless the teacher asks you to do it in another probably-more-precise way
fathom flame
minecraft? 
median trail
my pleasure
unreal pagoda
En ingles, estas son las palabras
@marsh linden
unreal pagoda
XD
marsh linden
😄
unreal pagoda
rain ermine
Ambos cagaron en una tortuga
unreal pagoda
Oh the gif didn't load
rain ermine
how did I type that
unreal pagoda
:3
rain ermine
I’ll just cargar mi phone
unreal pagoda
stay innocent manito
unreal pagoda
Estaba pensando "lyrics" 😬
unreal pagoda
Lobo, eres de España si?
past harbor
Sí
past harbor
El restaurante *
O conoces el *
No, no he oído hablar de él. SI es un restaurante, es algo que no me gusta, no me atrae comer en sitios así.
¿Por qué lo dices?
past harbor
Quiero saber si vale la pena mi dinero para comer allí *
Tendrás que preguntarle a alguien de Madrid. ¿Ese restaurante es de allí?
ashen mist
Hola
eager wagon
@quick rivet también
eager wagon
está bien, no puedes leerlo de todos modos
unreal pagoda
@ashen mist es de España? 
gross
Oh, yeeko! Tuve que preguntar yeekko. But i forget what he said ......
ashen mist
Soy un milagro hecho por Dios
ashen mist
Miren, ahora hay menos polución en china
unreal pagoda
alpine cradle
Hola, Pixi 
gusty ermine
No conozco el restaurante ese. ¿Donde está?
@placid flicker @eternal karma Thought you'd be interested in seeing my teacher's response : - )
shrewd pendant
Wow thanks professor Einstein
eternal karma
Do they think you're too stupid to be able to find the words in context
calm flax
“Outside dictionaries”
placid flicker
It’s almost like dictionaries differentiate their entries
She’s assuming the only thing you’re using is google translate
But also, almost nothing in your paragraph was wrong, so I hardly see how her claim is substantiated
eternal karma
I always hated that teachers just assume google translate
again, as if the students aren't smart enough to properly research
like I always use Spanishdict and Linguee so i can see them in context
Actually just looking at you and saying "You're not smart enough to do things on your own!"
glass dragon
@gusty ermine what's the context of that? Or like a link to where you started talking about that
gusty ermine
hangon
@glass dragon
Would like to point out that I specified in an e-mail reply that I was willing to avoid using dictionaries and just use what I already knew, as well as the in-class material, and she still had that to say 🙂
glass dragon
Lol
gusty ermine
She just wants me to write like a toddler for some reason.
Not exaggeration, she literally said that she wanted me to write like a toddler, rather than like a teenager, but then ended the message with "I really do want to help you succeed"
glass dragon
Wow
Her initial reply
"you are new to this, so I expect your sentences to reflect that"
Like bitch I just told you in my paragraph I've studying Spanish for 18 months, that's not "new"
gusty ermine
The class is Spanish 2
Literally everyone has been at it for 18 months
I really, really do want to just start writing my paragraphs in Portuguese and see what happens, but I'd rather not get kicked out of the class and lose the credit, so meh
I'll get the 60% required to pass, then just go balls to the walls and write a 10,000 word eloquent essay for one of these writing prompts
glass dragon
You could always bring it up with the principal
Ohhh it's online
Yeah she's probably seen 100000 students turn in Google translate garbage
gusty ermine
It's an online school that doesn't care too much. Even if I went to the principal of my physical school, he hates me for some unknown reason. I had a perfect disciplinary record and like a 3.0 GPA, so idk why
glass dragon
I suggest just keep writing quality essays and she'll see that you're not a fuck up and she won't be so hard on you next time
gusty ermine
Issue is that she gave me a 0 for this, and I'm only allowed to redo this one since it's a first warning
If I do it again, I'd just get another 0 and no redo
Hate school
hate school so much
glass dragon
Oh yeah that's fucked up then
gusty ermine
It's time to just go the Portuguese route to fuck with her I suppose
I am also mildly suspicious that her Spanish actually sucks and she just can't read mine
glass dragon
Nah it's probably what I said. People who do online school usually don't take it seriously and just copy and paste everything they can
She's probably trying to politely tell you "I know you cheated" without putting it on words and getting in trouble
gusty ermine
wowie
fallow dock
severe vortex
I've had teachers like that
"Only do what we've covered in the book"
Like fuck you
Actually go eat shit and die
You're a teacher
Teach
It's either that they're too unmotivated/lazy to accomodate a student who puts in extra effort or they're just too incompetent to correct any material above the level they've been taught to teach
glass dragon
Sometimes I have students think they know how to do something and instead of listening to me teach they do a bunch of weird shit on their paper and then get a 0 and then argue about how they "did it right, it's just different from how you do it" even though it's not right
I have a kid in my class right now who moved here from New York and insists she did quadratics in sixth grade and everything she turns in is completely wrong and she gets a 0 and then says "well this is how we do it in New York" but really it's not valid at all because she is just confused. She's probably complaining in some discord right now about the retarded teachers in Tennessee who are so behind they're only doing 6th grade work in 9th grade but giving her 0s for doing more advanced stuff
I have a feeling that 90% of the students who complain that their teachers won't let them do "advanced" stuff fall into that cayegory
The other 10% are like iroh's teacher and are actually bad
glass dragon
@real imp Did you get your math from yesterday answered? I can do it on paper for you now if you need it
median trail
👀
wind yarrow
Does anyone know of any polyglot discord servers? I’m learning Spanish, ASL, Japanese and looking to add French to that most likely. I have servers for Spanish and Japanese but nothing for the others or just general polyglot discussion.
trail basin
hands think
past harbor
https://discord.gg/RxPRdwh
@wind yarrow
wind yarrow
Yes American Sign Language. @median trail
wind yarrow
Thank you @past harbor
past harbor
De nada
median trail
@glass dragon hahahaha the "she's probably complaining in some Discord right now about the retarded teachers in Tennesse' part cracked me up
that's me kappa
trail basin
i was so eager to learn sign language then i found that there's one for every country
median trail
I don't know why but what you said here is so real, like teachers usually don't complain about this in public haha
glass dragon
Lol
wind yarrow
@trail basin I don’t really travel outside the US and use foreign languages mostly for playing video games with people from different countries and just because I find language fascinating so that wasn’t a big deal for me. I’ve also heard that you can generally still be understood between many varieties but I didn’t research that claim.
trail basin
interesante
wind yarrow
I’m hoping it’s similar to differences like coche and carro and other differences between different dialects of Spanish. I guess I’ll see when I get further along.
trail basin
is there any school for that or how do you do?
ashen mist
hola
wind yarrow
@trail basin so far I’ve been watching videos on YouTube, joined an ASL page on Facebook, and have one book that teaches basic stuff like letters, numbers, and basic phrases.
trail basin
would you mind sharing one of those videos
wind yarrow
This is my favorite channel so far. This particular video was very helpful.
unreal pagoda
@junior thicket
junior thicket
Garra de cuervo :3
real imp
snekbois
river ivy
sho sha no sé qué soy
ashen mist
Ojalá no Slytherin
river ivy
tristemente no, es mi fav
el pottermore me dijo que era ravenclaw por años hasta que un día me dijo no, sos gryffindor
ashen mist
slytherin es tu casa favorita?
no escuches esta canción entonces jjaja https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy-4ykwGFDk
fallow dock
oh okay
wind yarrow
;pencil
merry riverBOT
I've added 📝 to your name. This means you wish to be corrected in your sentences
ashen mist
Hacelo en #🤖・general-bot en el futuro, gracias
fathom flame
Lo haré en #🤖・general-bot dentro de 10 años.
ashen mist
En 10 años todo el mundo se habrá acabado por el coronavirus
fathom flame
El coronavirus es el mejor plan para salvar a la tierra.
ashen mist
Claro, la tierra es muy lista
Sabe lo que necesita hacer para acabar con la humanidad
rain ermine
wind yarrow
Sorry I thought I switched channels but I guess I didn’t.
median trail
Today I woke up at 5:30 am uwu
rain ermine
Nice
median trail
I have to attend a meeting at 7:10 am
ashen mist
Hola
median trail
https://youtu.be/eX1hvWxmJVE this video is cool
I want a book on calculus applications
lavish estuary
median trail
near pond
Press X to doubt
rain ermine
Más como nueve más noventa
calm flax
Could be the cat speaking
eager wagon
🥛
ashen mist
@median trail en qué asignatura?
median trail
physics, classical mechanics
trail basin
so highschool stuff?
trail basin
hope it goes well fam
median trail
I hope so too, I'm getting paid for the very first time
ashen mist
@median trail buena suerte
thin copper
Earning lots of money
median trail
Aaaaaaa everything went pretty well
thin copper
Ok what matters is how much you got. First things first
fallow dock
we're in the money
come on, my honey
let's lend it, spend it, send it rolling along
mortal dagger
es el comienzo de un imperio
fallow dock
aunque esa canción se llama Gold Diggers y es de 1933
mortal dagger
yo lo leía como un trap
rain ermine
More than I’ll ever earn
bronze burrow
hybrid hull
Anyone knowledgeable about git workflows?
Not sure if I'm really following a good pattern or not
fallow dock
whatever works for you, in the projects I've worked in we always make feature branches
hybrid hull
It was originally three group members and then one left so now it's just myself and another person. We aren't doing feature branches but instead just have our own branches and then a dev branch
kind flax
We do the git flow thing at work
You have a master branch and develop branch, where master is what is currently deployed
fallow dock
We aren't doing feature branches but instead just have our own branches and then a dev branch
sounds like a bit of a pain, if I understood correctly
kind flax
Sounds fine if you work one feature to completion and don't really need to switch, but will quickly become messy
ashen mist
Genial
hybrid hull
I mean it's not really a pain manu we're just developing on our own branches and then we pull to dev when we're ready
We haven't had any merge conflicts or anything yet
It just seems dirty lol
kind flax
It won't scale well as your team grows and the project gains complexity
hybrid hull
Well our team won't grow, but the latter will surely happen
kind flax
The gitflow model allows you make hotfixes for example (by branching off of master), without having to mess with what's currently in the develop branch
So you'd merge the hotfix branch into master, and then again into develop
fallow dock
what do you not like about them?
torn moss
falsely accused me of using google translate bc the words i used in a presentation were "too advanced" for an advanced class
and I got a 75 as a result
now she caught me using google translate when i was only there to translate a simple sentence and check to see if its somewhat correct
severe vortex
Oof
What is it with spanish teachers thinking their students are idiots who can't learn on their own?
torn moss
i mean sure, i used google translate, but it wasn't to just completely translate a whole paragraph
only one sentence
i swear she's worse than my 8th grade spanish teacher
at least she had reason to tell me what i did wrong
fallow dock
accused me of using google translate
what would the problem be even if you did?
torn moss
well for me she isn't wrong
it is bad with translating
paragraphs
but for simple sentences
or words
its not that bad of a tool
torn moss
yes
that's true
but she's like, "oh if i suspect you are using google translate you are getting a 0"
how tf are you supposed to know that?
translate the sentence i had typed down myself into google translate and see if its the same
next time i'm gonna purposefully get one grammatical error so she doesn't have to think i'm cheating
she seems to think my spanish is "too advanced"
severe vortex
yeah fuck that
tell her you've been studying beyond the material
and if she's like "you shouldn't do that" actually spit in her face
ahre don't do that
but I would want to
torn moss
i only pretend that i don't know things in that class so that ppl don't suspect i know more than i should
we're doing conditional tense
but i already knew how to do that 2 months ago
severe vortex
I mean that doesn't really help your case
torn moss
ehh
i don't want to come off as a know it all in an advanced class
last yr i aced spanish bc we weren't given projects
i got moved up to advanced and i really hate it
severe vortex
why do you care about coming off as a know it all?
torn moss
makes me look arrogant
severe vortex
as long as you aren't putting other people down you're not being arrogant
if your peers don't understand that, it's on them
severe vortex
sure
I'm just saying it's not helping your case with your teacher if you're pretending to be worse than you are
if you came in from the get go knowing advanced shit she probably wouldn't be as suspicious
this is about your grade. You shouldn't have to get things wrong on purpose to not get a 0
torn moss
i mean i was placed into advanced bc i did so well in spanish 2 honors that my teacher decided to move me up
next year i'm going down to honors
if u don't know, honors is like a mid-level class and advanced is like AP
severe vortex
why would you go down?
torn moss
class is too stressful
too many projects
and the teacher's suspicions on me using google translate
severe vortex
Alright that makes sense
torn moss
I like my peers
They've been nothing but nice to me
but the teacher just seems to be suspicious of how i know certain vocab and how to do certain things like the conditional and subjunctive, but at the same time not remember the difference between imperfect and preterite
severe vortex
that shouldn't be a surprise to her
imperfect vs preterite is way harder than conditional
torn moss
conditional is too easy
torn moss
she's already caught me using google translate
so she's probably gotten trust alienated on my part
torn moss
it wasn't to translate a whole sentence
maybe it looked like it from a distance but that wasn't my intention
even though she told us not to do it, i only thought it was for the presentation
not for a worksheet that I generated sentences in
now i feel guilty that i broke the one rule she had with no real malintent
severe vortex
that's whatever
what's important is she thinks you're cheating and that's having an effect on your potential grade
not fair to you at all
torn moss
my grade is okay though
severe vortex
Like she can punish you for breaking the rule when you did, but it's unfair to punish you for being a good student
torn moss
i do not want to look like a cheater in the eyes of my spanish teacher
severe vortex
I mean suit yourself
but my first thought would be "how do I prove that I'm not a cheater?"
torn moss
well now i've just proved to her that i use google translate, which'll now just give her the picture that i basically just tried to cheat my way to advanced
maybe my spanish class last year was giving me an easy lift
they didn't really prepare me for what true spanish class was like
and i couldn't handle it
severe vortex
Bruh listen to yourself
torn moss
hm?
well maybe pretending to know little to nothing about a certain lesson is a bit of a bad idea, but even if i did, i obviously still don't know everything
but at least know enough to get through my strongest subject
severe vortex
You don't have to know everything
torn moss
true
but its just that i've learned a lot of things that school hasn't taught me
like i managed to recognize slang in a song
and recognize how a spanish speaker from spain speaks
i was also the first person in my class last yr to be able to translate the entire lyrics of gasolina
tbh my spanish last yr compared to my peers was above average
and i was treated like some fluent spanish speaker
but in an advanced class its a whole diff story
torn moss
High
trail basin
que es esto? 2012?
old shell
torn moss
Yea i had a better time then than now
safe igloo
past harbor
''Estoy aprendiendo español con / a través de memes'' * @midnight nexus
Si dijeras por significaría que estás aprendiendo el idioma a causa de alguien
midnight nexus
sí
rough lava
“I’m learning Spanish for the memes”
midnight nexus
yes
torn moss
should i drop adv spanish?
ashen mist
Por qué?
torn moss
my teacher is somewhat negatively biased against me and doesn't really like me
bc she thinks i cheated my way up to advanced
even though she's seemingly nice on the outside, she has some passive-aggressive mood on me
past harbor
¿Y por qué tienes que ocultar que sabes más?
Quiero decir, si tus compañeros saben menos, no intentes dar tu siempre la respuesta a todo, déjalos a ellos
Tampoco puedes ir ocultando que sabes más. Al final, estás para aprender el idioma, no para fingir
Si en clase estáis dando una oración con Indicativo pero tú sabes que es mejor con Subjuntivo, adáptate a la clase
Ir un paso más allá puede causar eso, que la profesora tenga que corregirte distintamente a los demás
ashen mist
Ten una conversación con ella en español para disipar las dudas jaja
median trail
hiii uwu
Yesterday i learned that linear dependency in vector analysis comes from homogeneous matrices with no trivial solutions
linear algebra is cool but I don't even how to use in real life what I've learned in this class
median trail
I know panda in python is all about linear algebra
ashen mist
Los motores de búsqueda usan linear algebra, por ejemplo
median trail
Oh really
ashen mist
Sí
Me da vergüenza que ya no recuerde muchas cosas de las aplicaciones del álgebra lineal porque tomé varias clases del tema, y una de ellas trataba específicamente de sus aplicaciones jajaja
median trail
ay
I want to learn optimization, so that I can find out why a coke can is like it is
like shape-wise
ashen mist
Eso me parece algo de ingeniería, no?
median trail
yes
median trail
if a teacher doesn't give us 10 real-world applications of something, then he gets fired
last loom
What are you listening? 👀
median trail
I'm listening to my favorite album
last loom
nice, you're lucky to be able to do that and what genre is that album?
median trail
french pop
stiff roost
Alizée? I remember that everyone had a crush on her when they were young 😂
median trail
Are you from France? 
median trail
why would it use used?
it would be weird haha
programs should not use usted, it would be weird to me
severe vortex
But isn't that a more recent thing
I read that advertising and customer service has shifted from ustedeo to tuteo over time
median trail
hmmmm I don't think I have ever used a program that used usted
In my country ads doesn't even use usted
Here in colombia it does, but this is a special case
unreal pagoda
I didn't notice the new layout until now, I like it, makes things a lot easier to find, actually. @glass dragon
That is all
glass dragon
Cool!
rain ermine
First feedback nice
west thicket
@marsh linden
Im not sure if you were talking to me but this is what I meat
This just seemed hilarious to me
fossil aurora
** me cago en todo **
fossil aurora
i don't know if it's right, just sounds funny
calm flax
it is right
fossil aurora
oh
fossil aurora
😂
median trail
https://memoryos.com/world-record-live-stream a stream where a genius memorized 100.000 digits of pi and he's going to stream himself saying them in one take
it's offline right now but he will start streaming in a few hours
fallow dock
it seems he got to the 13208th digit and set a record already
http://pi-world-ranking-list.com/index.php?page=lists&category=pi he needs to beat a lot of people
fathom flame
how to create integer in c++
fallow dock
int name; typically
fathom flame
can u make a tutorial?
fallow dock
I don't know C++, I only studied C long ago
(this concept is applied the same way though)
where are you studying from?
fathom flame
I need a video tutorial about how to create integer in C++
fallow dock
this sounds a bit like an XY problem
this could be a program with an integer:```cpp
int main() {
int myInteger = 10;
return 0;
}```
fallow dock
ok.
fathom flame
is that a yes?
fallow dock
I don't really feel like giving my opinion on this
I hope no one misinterprets this convo, given the video got deleted
hidden fable
thin copper
What's that? A game?
rain ermine
How does one not know what Minecraft is in 2020
@glass dragon I’m resetting my pc
By reinstalling windows
rain ermine
This better do something or ima be mad
It’ll delete all my apps
So I’ll have to reinstall Spotify and discord and etc
glass dragon
yeah
rain ermine
I also saw some random apps I don’t remember installing
glass dragon
but be conscientious about which ones you're reintalling
yeah, don't install weird shit
rain ermine
Like bonjour
glass dragon
take a picture with your phone of your programs folder so you remember all of them
glass dragon
you may
rain ermine
I did see that something called amd software was going to get deleted
glass dragon
but it will still run without the drivers, just not as well
rain ermine
Just can’t wait until I upgrade
glass dragon
you have a pretty good pc
I think you'll see that when you reinstal
make sure when you reinstall that you do not choose the option to keep your files
because that will just keep all the viruses too
rain ermine
😅
glass dragon
if it has an option to format, do that first
rain ermine
Oh well
I DID THAT
And I had already backed up all my pics and videos on my usb stick I’m dumb wow
glass dragon
just make SURE you do a COMPLETELY CLEAN install
don't save anything, don't put your files back on the computer
rain ermine
But I want Spotify
glass dragon
yeah, redownload it
but like, don't redownload the weird programs that you don't really use and aren't quite sure where they're from
don't transfer anything
redownload everything
thin copper
By cleaning the drive you mean formatting? Or using an antivirus / cleaning files software ?
glass dragon
yeah clean it
fathom flame
my aim so 💩 now
unreal pagoda
@vestal pine on a good day
gentle heath
god save the queen
bleak kiln
I imagine you saying that in the heaviest spanish accent known to mankind
con-poo-ter
rain ermine
lol
trail basin
sonaria igual que un japones
fathom flame
hello guys
welcome to another tutorial
today I gonna teach you
how to make a self-drivin car
from scratch
vestal pine
go on boss
thin copper
First, get rid of the steering wheel.
fathom flame
Okay guys for this tutorial I’ll use Python 4.5. You don download it at: www.google.com/search/python4.5.com
Just follow what I do:
If going_to_drive:
do_it_yourself()
If going_to_run_over_some1:
don’t()
If going_to_crash:
don’t()
Thank you for watching, the next video we are going to build an AI that can program by himself from scratch.
placid flicker
@median trail gracias por enseñarme muchísimo de ADHD jaja
gusty ermine
Eso son Reebok or son Nike?
unreal pagoda
@west thicket 's favorite candy bar
junior thicket
🥢
unreal pagoda
Proper scran tha @vestal pine
vestal pine
what the fuck
unreal pagoda
A whole new meaning to "pasta carbonara"
median trail
why is this giving an example of physical connections not performing equally using a wireless device?
@ashen mist
Wait, does this mean that the physical layer structures the bits differently depending on the type of media being used?
calm flax
I thought it would just drop the packet if it didn’t pass checksum?
I don’t know shit though
median trail
@ashen mist I don't understand why this happens
still radish
@unreal pagoda I approve
glass dragon
@median trail it's like when everybody on the plane is trying to get off. You can't get off the plane faster than that slow poke who is standing in the aisle getting their baggage down
Everything else that might be faster has to "line up" behind the slow part
gusty ermine
dict la casa
exotic kiteBOT
🆙 | Throupy leveled up!
dawn elmBOT
gusty ermine
cool
glacial rivet
zrupii
gusty ermine
hi
glacial rivet
you here
gusty ermine
yah not much
still radish
my ram has been running at 800 MHz for 3 years when it should be 3000 MHz.
PSA - enable XMP
😦
gusty ermine
lmao
glass dragon
Does anybody here tie their shoes in cool ways?
glass dragon
I meant lace them in cool ways
hearty sparrow
rain ermine
Accidents
hearty sparrow
está bien lol
glass dragon
@rain ermine how's your computer?
rain ermine
Better I’d say
gusty ermine