But the most important thing nowadays is connections
#🍁・general-2
limber marlin
mossy cloud
And what's the point of going to a school if you don't use their resources?
limber marlin
Nowadays you can get into companies just by knowing people up the chain of command
It's really nice
If you know where to look
mossy cloud
It's a little different for me, since I'm going into academia
I just make connections with professors
limber marlin
mossy cloud
If you ever want to go to WashU Panda, I know some secrets 
Well, they probably apply to more than just my school
limber marlin
I know people who did not go to college but gained an internship through a higher-up they knew and learned the material and got hired even with no college experience and only a high school diploma
gusty ermine
woah what are some secrets
limber marlin
Tech is a great sector
gusty ermine
woah
mossy cloud
Yeah
I was able to shadow a physics professor from a local university my senior year in high school
All it took was one email (just kidding, multiple emails, interviews, etc.)
Networking works wonders
limber marlin
Shadowing is probably one of the most fun things I've ever done
I love teaching, and so it's always fun to steal ideas from people
mossy cloud
and yeah panda, they're not really "secrets," but not many people know about it
You really have to research this kind of stuff, and even then, it varies from school to school
limber marlin
Here's a place to start: https://www.calcareercenter.org/Home/Content?contentID=174
mossy cloud
One of the big secrets for my school is that they take in account of "demonstrated interest"
gusty ermine
the application deadline is over for most of the schools, including WashU
mossy cloud
Oh yeah, most definitely
But the application process doesn't end until decisions come out
Trust me
gusty ermine
but I cant submit, can i?
mossy cloud
Oh, if you didn't apply, then unfortunately no
gusty ermine
nop
i really wanted to go to UPenn but haha it didn't go well
im an international, east asian after all
limber marlin
Universities are looking for diversity nowadays
gusty ermine
yeah but they are pretty biased on east asians
my friend had practically perfect resume but he still didn't get into any ivys
limber marlin
Acceptance of Caucasians is at an all time low it's great for everyone else
mossy cloud
Schools that do "demonstrated interest" take in account of how many times you contact them, whether you visited their campus, or interacted with people from their school (i.e. interviews)
gusty ermine
ohhhhhh
mossy cloud
It shows that you want to go to their school
And puts you in higher standing than others
My school has "optional" interviews
But with that in mind, it's not really "optional" anymore is it?
gusty ermine
lol no
limber marlin
People say everything is optional
Like "Do you have anymore questions?"
"Could you come out to dinner with us on suchandsuch date?"
"Would you like to take a tour of suchandsuch?"
mossy cloud
(and p.s. the interview was less on an interview and more of a casual conversation with a current student; they're trying to gauge your personality, so remember to just be yourself)
gusty ermine
mmm i have a question
mossy cloud
s h o o t
gusty ermine
?
limber marlin
Fire away!
mossy cloud
^
gusty ermine
what do you think about taking a gap year after high school
limber marlin
Good question
mossy cloud
Depends on what it's used for
mossy cloud
I don't have much experience with it so I don't really know
gusty ermine
thanks a lot! will do
limber marlin
The biggest pros on there for me are:
5. You will have time to prepare financially.
6. Your age and inexperience can be a huge asset.
mossy cloud
Oh, going back to the "optional" topic, optional things don't always mean things that the opposing party with initiate
Sometimes you just have to be the person to initiate the contact
mossy cloud
Yeah, but I know some people who didn't do the "optional" stuff and still got in
so eh
gusty ermine
and i think i should do more research about taking a gap year
id love to but not sure
limber marlin
Here let me get some more stuff for you
mossy cloud
Quite a nice car if I do say so myself 
limber marlin
+mechanic visits (textbooks)
limber marlin
mossy cloud
I have to get some for this semester
limber marlin
Time for an oil change!
Collegevine is a really good resource for college-related stuff in general
mossy cloud
You know a lot about college already as a Freshman, you graduating early or what?
gusty ermine
yeah i like the site a lot
limber marlin
No, I'm not graduating early
But I am the one of many resources
I can't think of one thing a student might ask me for that I won't have
Including tutoring and help with classes
gusty ermine
i'd believe if you were a college student
limber marlin
For example, every single word of vocabulary we have gotten this year has been made into a quizlet and distributed to the students
All this done by me, of course
mossy cloud
well 
we're technically both freshmen 🤣
limber marlin
Are you a musician Corset?
limber marlin
What do you play?
gusty ermine
Yay piano
limber marlin
Guitar is fun
mossy cloud
I learned classical, but developed kind of my own fingerstyle
limber marlin
Over the course of my life, I've played 7 instruments formally (IC) and 4 instruments informally
mossy cloud
Oof that's a lot
gusty ermine
How does that work
limber marlin
What do you mean "how does that work"?
mossy cloud
I used to play the saxophone as well, but I quit it to allow myself to perfect piano and guitar better
limber marlin
I don't understand what you are asking
gusty ermine
Playing instruments formally and informally
limber marlin
Ah, saxophone is nice
I included a distinction because most people don't understand
mossy cloud
It's hard to find a place to practice saxophone
limber marlin
Formally, as in I have played in a concert
Informally, as in I haven't
I've been doing piano through what I call "explorations"
mossy cloud
What genre of music do you play?
limber marlin
Right now I'm doing "Explorations of the Methodist Hymnal"
And "Expanding the Blues Scale"
No specific genre
gusty ermine
Hymnals are quite nice
mossy cloud
You like jazz? 
limber marlin
I'm just doing explorations of each genre, and it's specifics
mossy cloud
I studied jazz for a year
limber marlin
Jazz is interesting
limber marlin
During my "Explorations in Improvisation" exploration
mossy cloud
There's a lot of transcribing in jazz, I'll tell you that
limber marlin
That was my longest running jazz exploration
mossy cloud
You listen to the music so much, you get sick of it
limber marlin
But then there are some hard ones
mossy cloud
I wasn't allowed to use "fake or real books"
We had to learn the chord progression by ear
gusty ermine
That's crazy
limber marlin
But during that exploration, I ended up playing at a dinner party
gusty ermine
Intense practice
mossy cloud
You just gotta get gud at listening
limber marlin
And it was so easy, I was just kinda like wow one page of music and I've got two whole hours down
limber marlin
There was, of course, some stuff that I came up with on the spot
When I went down to Florida during the summer
gusty ermine
I guess you can improvise chords
limber marlin
I borrowed the organ from the church
And I played that, semicomposing as I went
No music
It's fun, composing while playing
An odd sport, to say the least
Have to start with an idea
The one for that day was "G Bb A G"
mossy cloud
I hear Harry Potter in those notes
limber marlin
And that lasted for maybe a half hour or so before I switched to one I can't remember because of course
I was playing in more of a concert band style
gusty ermine
I don't think I'm quite understanding this
mossy cloud
G Bb A G D C
gusty ermine
Maybe because I don't play jazz
mossy cloud
Harry potter aaa
gusty ermine
Is that the melody or walking bass or chords?
limber marlin
Melody, starting at G6 if I remember correctly
I love jazz octave movements though so I might do a Gmaj7(2nd) at G3 and then an Am(1st) up at A7 or so before beginning
gusty ermine
Like arpeggio?
limber marlin
No, the note
gusty ermine
Do you have recordings of it? Sorry I don't think I quite get it
limber marlin
Like that G but two octaves up
G6
not the chord G6 because i would said Gsus⁴⁶
But the not G6
No, I don't have recordings
mossy cloud
It's in the key of F major right?
limber marlin
No, mine was in g minor
gusty ermine
Yeah I know the notes
limber marlin
No idea about Harry Potter
mossy cloud
Oh, I thought you meant Gmaj7 as the 2 chord
gusty ermine
I just wasn't sure what you'd do with left hand
gusty ermine
Idk I've been playing classical my whole life I don't improvise on melody
limber marlin
The left hand just goes where it wants to go
limber marlin
I had been playing classical until my teacher moved away and I began doing explorations
Yeah, I though we had super as ii
gusty ermine
Chopin etudes are always my go to and they work greatly
limber marlin
I used to have a binderfull of music that I would take with me to events
Now I have an iPad and my head
It's great
mossy cloud
Confused on how Gmaj7 works as a ii chord of g minor
gusty ermine
Anyways I'm going to sleep
limber marlin
It is g minor, and g is i
mossy cloud
Night Panda 
gusty ermine
Talk to you guys tomorrow, if we can
limber marlin
Good night!
gusty ermine
Night night
mossy cloud
Either way, both would be Gmin7, whether as the i chord of G minor or the ii chord of F majors 
mossy cloud
I thought you were talking about a different chord with extensions but shorthanded it to be Gmaj7 lol
It's been a while, I'm really rusty with the theory
limber marlin
I was just not paying attention
limber marlin
At least I'm not a Gm7⁸ ¹³ ¹⁵ ¹⁹ type of person
No, I'm not studying with a teacher anymore
mossy cloud
I need to find resources so I can pick up practicing music again
Can't let it go to waste ya know?
mossy cloud
oof, we've talked here for a while
I need to get back to being productive
I'll see ya later
limber marlin
Okay!
ashen mist
Anyone know of a VIM plugin for world of Warcraft?
molten axle
I found it on IG
exotic kiteBOT
🆙 | Coolempire93 leveled up!
limber marlin
Go away tatsu-san
molten axle
https://germetee.com/Otter @old shell
old shell
molten axle
https://germetee.com/nasa-otter-space-cute-harry-otter-t-shirt?rt=search&s=hanes-5250&c=Black&p=FRONT the one I shared with you
sacred harbor
severe vortex
vestal pine
I don’t get it
brave mango
"Florida man" is a meme because people from Florida do the weirdest shit
severe vortex
Is there any particular area of the UK where a lot of people get on the news for doing stupid shit?
brave mango
So headlines like "Florida man does coke off of the back of an alligator" happen weirdly often
severe vortex
So it became a meme that all the stupid shit was being done by one person named Florida Man
lusty widget
Man wakes up on thief sucking his toes
Or smtg like that
Well, a man broke in a house and started sucking the toes of another man xdd
(Florida)
ashen mist
No creo que sea una sola persona
lusty widget
Eh?
ashen mist
Florida Man
lusty widget
Ah
lavish estuary
Es un espíritu malévolo
ashen mist
Es el demonio que llevamos dentro todos
real imp
@ashen mist do you play wow
ashen mist
No
ashen mist
Jaja por?
ashen mist
Oh it was a joke
icy pollen
even if you could play wow in vim, would you really want to? *
ashen mist
I cook dinner in vim
gentle heath
@severe vortex that area is every main street in every town on the weekend
alpine cradle
@arctic niche tengo un meme para ti, recuérdame
marsh linden
recuérdamelo*
ashen mist
Hola
alpine cradle
arctic niche
gusty ermine
Xdd
dense blaze
hi guys, I have a survey about people's academics and their averages on their courses. This mainly applies to high school students and below. This is for my academic essay.
https://forms.gle/iL3LBJsTRCxmLH2BA
severe vortex
ashen mist
Is that xkcd
brave mango
Looks like it
mellow laurel
I've been recording my sleep patterns for about 4~ months now. Weekends are clearly defined and winter break ruins the nice even graph
storm valley
lmao
mellow laurel
After 12am it goes 13,14,15. That's just 1am,2am,3am, etc
storm valley
i see and i get it
storm valley
hi
halcyon zealot
to answer ur question it was good I went for classes but it wasn't language classes and it was all taught in english
but i lived with a host family and had to speak spanish with anyone outside of my program
storm valley
oh okay, cool. Still sounds stressful to me.
halcyon zealot
i did feel bad tho my host dad said i spoke spanish the worst out of anyone theyve had :-( LMFAO
halcyon zealot
but idk its back to the shy thing like i wouldn't have known what to say to this random man whose house im living in even if i was talking in english
its just awkwardness not necessarily lack of knowledge
storm valley
fair. It's hard to make small talk in a language you're not great at
halcyon zealot
yeaaa
storm valley
we should hablar en espanol some time
halcyon zealot
yes !!!
that sounds cool id be down to practice w/ eachother
are you in higher level classes btw?
storm valley
depends on what you consider higher level
real imp
Does anyone have a xiaomi redmi 8 by chance?
Bc i just bought one and it just doesnt charge
It says that its charging but the battery actually goes down
prisma nymph
Is it the charger the phone came with in the box?
prisma nymph
Huh, weird
real imp
:/
glass dragon
@mellow laurel i can't quite understand the graph. Can you explain it a bit?
I can't tell what the blue line is even supposed to represent
eager wagon
significa que salta mucho en la cama por la noche
ashen mist
Cuando se acostaba?
real imp
its when they go to to sleep
glass dragon
If it's what time they go to sleep, how tf is it a smooth line and not discrete points?
ashen mist
Puede ser el tipo de gráfico que eligió
ashen mist
Woot
real imp
Tfw you have nothing to do and start studying pre calc
ashen mist
Qué tal aprender cosas relacionadas a tu trabajo?
mellow laurel
@glass dragon so basically that line represents the time I go to sleep.
8pm,9pm, etc. When it hits 13:00 it's the same as 1am. 14:00 is 2am, etc
glass dragon
@mellow laurel yeah but there's either not 30 data points per month or you have this weird habit of going to sleep at times that follow a smooth curve. Like November 1st you went tlbe at 2am, then November 2nd apparently at 1:30, then on the 3rd at like 1:00... Did it not take data every day or did it interpolate between data points to create a less accurate but smoother graph?
mellow laurel
I made it smooth to look nicer lol. It just looks nicer lol.
Also I'm way too lazy to change that.
-12 from every hour
glass dragon
ah i see
past harbor
@grim lava
Coge un papel con líneas e intenta escribir todas las letras del abecedario una tras otra
Intenta poner una pequeña separación y enfocate en que las letras estén rectas
Y sobre la línea
Nada de estar una letra más arriba que otra
Intenta repetir esto todos los días y verás cómo vas a empezar a escribir más recto
Céntrate que todas las letras tengan el mismo tamaño, menos las mayúsculas
Al principio es tedioso y muy aburrido pero con práctica, empiezas a escribir más recto y con un tamaño normal
grim lava
i'll try this as well @past harbor gracias lobo
hybrid ridge
Que es Céntrate, tamaño y mayúsculas?
eager wagon
céntrate > de "centrar" (enfocar) + tú (te) // tamaño = la medida, la talla, la dimensión // mayúscula = por ejemplo "M" en lugar de "m", la letra pero grande
hybrid ridge
ah vale! muchas gracias
glass dragon
Deliburd necesita aprender escribir mejor?
limber marlin
Puedes ver la conversación en #📝・correct-me-please
sacred harbor
a+ * 
limber marlin
¿Por dónde?
gusty ermine
ah también quiero escribir mejor
la manera en la que escribo es inconsistente
y tengo que escribir muy lento para tener un resultado decente
glass dragon
@limber marlin sí, pero no quise leer una conversación entera para contestar una pregunta sí/no
limber marlin
Fue para contexto, no la respuesta
gusty ermine
(offtopic epic)
But yeah, basically, @severe vortex, what I was saying is that an adult can absolutely just learn a language with no resource but speaking by being dropped in a random country with no former knowledge. You'd pick up nouns and verbs first, and then slowly build a grammatical basis, just like a baby.
But it's absolutely pointless to do this because study can facilitate the process to the point that, instead of taking a decade to achieve some level of proficiency, it'll take a year.
"What does "uragirimono" mean in Japanese? I could wait to hear it a million times until I pick it up, or I could just look it up"
severe vortex
I spose
gusty ermine
Also, writing systems. Those are not a part of natural language. They're constructed. So, unlike spoken language, those do actually require active study to learn. You can't just stare at a book until you can read Cyrillic
severe vortex
Of course
jade light
Que son estos fotos?
jade light
Y todas de estas fotos son de Argentina?
jagged wadi
Si
jade light
Son bonitas, pero no sé si podría ver estas montañas personalmente.
jagged wadi
Si es tu sueño cumplirlo lo podras lograr, nada es imposible
Yo pienso lo mismo de irme a vivir a otro pais
Pero con esfuerzo todo se puede
jade light
Por supuesto, pero sé que mi familia no les gustan estos tipos de vacaciones. Cuando tengo un montón de lugar que quiero visitar, no sé si vale la pena conseguir una persona que quiere ir conmigo a Argentina específicamente.
jagged wadi
Ya encontraras a alguien paciencia 🙂
jade light
O mejor, puedo llamarte en unos años para ver las montañas
peak kettle
severe vortex
gusty ermine
haha
alpine cradle
@limber marlin I tried that palatal trill and it's not that difficult 
I thought it involves the tip of the tongue and not dorsum *
I think you can combine it with the RR and make it even harsher *
limber marlin
Interesting
alpine cradle
hola! 
gusty ermine
meant to post to memes and then checked this channel and saw the Chilean meme up there so I guess that was it
everything happens without me participating 😛
hi Loxiney
gusty ermine
of course
alpine cradle
perdón mi mal español, pero no puedo escribir en inglés aquí
limber marlin
No english, that's unfortunate
gusty ermine
https://youtu.be/xtvZnteTTFM @alpine cradle
una canción rumana que suelo recomendar
o, bueno, compartir
alpine cradle
muchas gracias 
gusty ermine
una versión traducida en español de esta canción https://youtu.be/JUWgMhlmx2w
de nada 
alpine cradle
estoy muy encantado que recordabas
gusty ermine
ellos no son de Rumania, pero de la República Moldova (Inna sí lo es)
claro
no sé si has usado bien el subjuntivo ahí pero tampoco sé lo suficiente para decirte cómo quedaría mejor 
estoy muy encantado de que... te hayas acordado? no estoy segura
lavish estuary
alpine cradle
pienso que estaba imperfecto perdón, soy un principiante
alpine cradle
estoy un poco preocupado, voy a escuchar más tarde, ok? 
alpine cradle
ocupado
cuídate
slate bone
ashen mist
Este canal no es para subir cosas relacionadas con las conversaciones en los canales de voz. Para eso tenemos #💬・general-vc ,2,3,4 @slate bone
eager wagon
@west thicket Conoces la serie en Netflix "Catedral del mar"?
west thicket
está bien?
severe vortex
By chance, does anybody here work in natural language processing?
Por casualidad habría alguien aquí que trabaje en el procesamiento de lenguajes naturales?
I know there's a lot of programmers and a lot of linguistics nerds here and I'm doing some career exploration
gritty oriole
🤨
eager wagon
@west thicket
https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/enlku6/vandals_painted_a_complete_train_silver_in_a/
Me gusta
west thicket
jajaja que rebelde somos
lavish estuary
gusty ermine
Gracias!!!!!!!
lavish estuary
@gusty ermine Is there a lot of content in Swahili? Movies, music, series, news, stand-up, etc?
gusty ermine
Where? @lavish estuary in your link no
gusty ermine
I don't really know but I have a lot of books, and I know many songs. It may have movies too even though I don't see any yet.
I'm texting someone to get more informations there
lavish estuary
Ok, thanks. I've been wanting to learn Japanese for a while now but I'd drop it in an instant to learn Swahili
severe vortex
I think swahili is a lingua franca in some parts of africa
lavish estuary
Yeah, we're both African xD
junior crystalBOT
past harbor
Conoces*
alpine cradle
Gracias 
tengo que usar "conocéis" aquí, porque estaba escribiendo a Jaleel y @gusty ermine
past harbor
Ah, okay
hexed ingot
hahaha just for the memes
i made a vid here of me speaking spanish first time here,
hope anyone relates
limber marlin
I wish I could edit like that
"Está diez y media"
That's funny
How old are you?
limber marlin
You sound really young for 19
hexed ingot
hexed ingot
rip lol
hexed ingot
yup
limber marlin
It's interesting you use estar for like everything
limber marlin
Like pequeño to pequeñito
hexed ingot
ahh gracias
hexed ingot
ooh i see, was trying to hear that
exotic kiteBOT
🆙 | Kaye leveled up!
limber marlin
Mostly, yeah
I don't know the past subjunctive but that's about it
And of course the uses of all the different tenses and moods and stuffesses
hexed ingot
ooh that's good, practicing helps
how many years of spanish so far?
i took 4 years but that was 2 years ago lol, so ima try reviving whatever i have left
lol
limber marlin
Seis años y medio
hexed ingot
wow amazing
limber marlin
I can't tell what he says at 5:30 it's too quiet
hexed ingot
i heard like estados unidas
near the end but i think he was talking to himself idk tho
limber marlin
That h sound tho when you said "hablas"
hexed ingot
hahaha
mannn having conversations in spanish is a whole different thing from text or writing lol
limber marlin
Yes, it is
Just one thing
The form is
Tener + que + verbo
I have to ...
I have to sleep
Tengo que dormir
You have to leave
Tienes que irte/salir
hexed ingot
ahhhh I see
limber marlin
Kaye has to understand
Kaye tiene que entender
limber marlin
que
hexed ingot
o sht whoops xd
limber marlin
We just talked about this
hexed ingot
united states
limber marlin
So then you would need to go into your computer's settings and change the keyboard layout
hexed ingot
ah okay ill try that rn
limber marlin
to the US INTL keyboard
It changes the right alt key to an ampersand key basically, along with other things
You can access all of the ampersand characters + the accents
Also, your apostrophe and quotation marks turn into accent buttons
You just click the apostrophe and then click a letter
ŕ
é
etc.
Same for quotation marks
ẗ
ü
etc.
You can also use the right alt key if you don't want to use the apostrophe and tilde keys for all the accents
ñ
As easy as that
If you need more help with it just tell me
This keyboard layout does many things
Probably the most intuitive I've ever seen
You'll be finding new things for maybe about a year if you don't read a guide or something of that sort
hexed ingot
gotcha I added it
limber marlin
Great!
hexed ingot
limber marlin
Alt+Shift+"="
hexed ingot
¿
limber marlin
Right alt
limber marlin
Just making sure - you know your left from your right, right?
hexed ingot
ye
limber marlin
Okay
hexed ingot
¿¿
hexed ingot
sweet
hexed ingot
oou oka
limber marlin
All types of stuff is possible when you have access to ampersand characters
Tired of "|"? Now you can do "¦"!
hexed ingot
heheh nice
hexed ingot
sweet, no more copying and pasting
limber marlin
I know the feeling
hexed ingot
ikr lmao
alpine cradle
What does
who learned 4 of Spanish in highschool
even mean
hexed ingot
o meant to add 4 years
hollow gull
Does anyone have these headphones? I would like to know how they work on calls
junior crystalBOT
fathom flame
gusty ermine
Exactly
crystal kraken
hay un friki de química que pueda ayudarme con los compuestos ionizados?
hybrid hull
Is that calc II?
hybrid hull
Oh its just optimization
gusty ermine
yup
abstract scaffold
@gusty ermine The second derivative test is not the first derivative test.
when taking the second derivative
you plug in the value you found when setting the first derivative to 0
into the second derivative
then if this is >0 it's a minimum
<0 it's a maximum
= 0 it's a point of inflexion
So max area does indeed happen at 5*sqrt(3)/3
limber marlin
I asked my ELA teacher this and she couldn't tell me the answer
Why do we change ct to x
abstract scaffold
ct?
limber marlin
Crucifiction -> Crucifixion
abstract scaffold
oh
abstract scaffold
I don't even know if I spelt it right lmoa
limber marlin
See but it is right
Both are
And I don't understand how it came about in the first place
celest bay
Er, inflexion isn’t correct
limber marlin
My autocorrect says it is
Look when you search it
It pops up the word
And it has it
Spelled as "inflexion"
Right under it
Look at the google search
celest bay
I saw, they’re different words
limber marlin
Also mine is different than yours I guess
But it's right there
In the blue
In the definition
gusty ermine
So f''(x when first derivative is equal to 0)?
abstract scaffold
so you found x= 5*sqrt(3)/3 when f'(x) = 0
limber marlin
And there is no verb form to justify a change in spelling in noun/verb
abstract scaffold
do f''(5/sqrt(3))
limber marlin
But both spellings are there
gusty ermine
Ah I see
gusty ermine
And do the sign chart?
abstract scaffold
nah. sign chart is first derivative test
they're asking for second derivative test in this question. you can do a sense check with the first derivative test tho if u wish
gusty ermine
What's a sense check?
abstract scaffold
double check to make sure it's correct.
to see if ur answer is reasonable.
like for example, sense checking your angles in a traingle. if one of your angles is like 190 degrees, you know that's gone horibly wrong because angles of a triangle add up to 180
gusty ermine
Ohhhh I see
abstract scaffold
=wolf second derivative of x(25-x^2) at x = 5/sqrt(3)
abstract scaffold
you can see the answer is -10sqrt(3) which is <0 so max.
abstract scaffold
go ahead
gusty ermine
I'm working on c
And d
So I had to get f'(c) and write a sercant line but I wasn't sure if I did it right
And d I just have no idea
abstract scaffold
part c) seems all good except I would have left everything in exact form when you were trying to find the y-intercept
gusty ermine
fixed it, thanks!
abstract scaffold
ok, for part d) the tangent line is parallel to the secant line.
so that means they must have the same gradient.
the gradient of the tangent can be found via derivatives
using these facts, you need to find a point where the tangent is parallel to the secant, then using this point find the equation of the tangent line.
gusty ermine
what do you mean by gradient?
i figured out f'(x) = 2+2ln(x)
do i set that equal to f'(c)?
abstract scaffold
yep
abstract scaffold
ur trying to find x now.
dont plug c into x
wait
yes f'(c) = f'(x)
but more like
e^6ln(3) blah.... = 2+ 2ln(x) then solve for x.
abstract scaffold
hang on. lol
haha
@gusty ermine c is ur point that the tangent meets.
u use that, and the fact that it's parallel to the secant
to find the equation of theline.
y = mx + b where m = the same gradient as the secant, x = c
or
y - y_0 = m(x-x_0) where m = the same gradient as the secant, x_0 = c, y_0 = f(x_0)
ur c can be heavily simplified though
abstract scaffold
=wolf e^(((6ln(3)-ln(0.5))/2.5 -2)/2) = (3^(6/5)*2^(1/5))/e
rotund pawnBOT
gusty ermine
Uhh I don't think I got too far
rotund pawnBOT
gusty ermine
Woa
abstract scaffold
next step: split ur exponent into three fractions.
then: use the log property aln(b) = ln(b^a)
then: use the property e^(a+b) = e^a*e^b
then: use the inverse function properties e^(ln(f(x))) = f(x)
finally: simplify
gusty ermine
since this case it is e^(a-b), should i use e^a/e^b?
abstract scaffold
yes.
gusty ermine
how do i simplify ln(3^6)/ln(0.5)?
gusty ermine
abstract scaffold
ok, there's a bit of a fatal mistake on the first one of the arrow.
it should be e^(ln(3^(6/5)) - ln(0.5)^(1/5)) - 1)
gusty ermine
how come the denominators become fractions?
storm valley
Sorry to interrupt, but I see an error in the first step. What happened to the 1/2 and 1/(2*5)
storm valley
Gotcha. I thought the 2.5 was 2*5 my bad
gusty ermine
i see
abstract scaffold
can u see what to do after that?
lone furnaceBOT
MathBot
abstract scaffold
with -1ln(0.5^(1/5)) you can use a log property yet again.
but basically once u got that. you can find b... and equation of tangent
gusty ermine
abstract scaffold
now use the property e^a+b = e^a e^b
@gusty ermine sorry for the delay. I was in another channel.
drowsy grail
vital ginkgo
bronze burrow
Jojo reference
vital ginkgo
Green Platinum
smoky comet
Anybody have this pic without text?
It was supposed to be picture that's right. Fuck me.
glacial rivet
bronze burrow
I only see a black background
smoky comet
@alpine cradle yep. 50/50
alpine cradle
I'm a native and couldn't understand what he said when jumping over the fence *
smoky comet
It is Polish?
alpine cradle
sí
There is a YouTube channel where people speak different Slavic languages and compare overall comprehension. Ecolinguist, but most videos are PL-CZ*
Do you speak Belarusian? I've heard it's dying 
*
icy pollen
@celest bay the reason I think of Canadians when using "bud" is because of the song Out for a Rip *
also a good song for canadian slang if anyone is interested, the music video gives clues on what they mean like "dart = cigarette" *
celest bay
oooh today i learned
smoky comet
@alpine cradle yep. Infortunately. Because of damned President. Well, not only him but mainly it's his fault.
I lose my temper when I hear Belarusians saying like "Why do we need Belarusian? It is dead". /facepalm/ Idiots walk around.
And yep considering current situation with Russia it would be great to show off using Belarusian.
limber marlin
@narrow phoenix how long have you been staff?
Just wondering
I've never noticed before
narrow phoenix
Since about 6 hours ago
eager wagon
limber marlin
That explains why
ashen mist
Felicidades @narrow phoenix
sacred harbor
marsh linden
@west thicket 
gusty ermine
oli ^_^ tengo una pregunta sobre php. alguien conoce este lenguaje?
past harbor
Yo, dispara @gusty ermine
gusty ermine
estoy haciendo cositas cn laravel. y intento pulsar un enlace para ir a otra pagina pero no me funciona. puedes ayudarme?
esto estoy poniendo <td><a href="../alumno/{{$alumnos -> id}}">Ver</a></td>
@past harbor
west thicket
lol
past harbor
Has escrito mal la ruta
west thicket
lotsa options for you there xD
past harbor
Siempre es "Laravel/nombreProyecto/public/Recurso"
En tu caso sería Laravel/Alumnos/public/alumno/{{$alumnos -> id}}
@gusty ermine
Te olvidaste de "public"
Prueba a ver y me dices
gusty ermine
tengo que escribir toda esa linea?
past harbor
No, tienes que omitir todo menos el "public", que es esencial
../public/alumno/{{$alumnos -> id}} y después cierras las etiquetas
Intenta trabajar siempre con rutas relativas, ya sabes, si te mueves de ordenador o de lugar, no vas a tener toda una ruta en ese otro sitio, no van a poder coincidir
gusty ermine
me funciona! muchas gracias ^_^
past harbor
Nada, cualquier cosa me dices o me hablas por privado
gusty ermine
tienes un minutito mas? @past harbor tengo varios errores
past harbor
Dime, @gusty ermine
gusty ermine
estoy intentando modificar una nota de un chico pero no se que esta mal
esto escribi Alumno::where($id)->update(request()->notaAlu);
@past harbor
past harbor
Tienes ahí dos errores, te olvidaste de especificar en el where el nombre del campo donde se encuentra el id en la db. El otro pequeño fallo que tienes es que el método update necesita de un array asociativo, estás indicando el valor pero no el campo
Quedaría algo así (luego tú sustituyes como sea): Alumno::where('id', $id) -> update(['nota' => request()->notaAlu]);
@gusty ermine
Con esto debería bastar, mira a ver. Si no, me dices
gusty ermine
ooo funcionó. puedo preguntarte una cosa mas? no tengo idea de como se hace @past harbor
tengo que moverme a la pagina principal despues de modificar pero no se. mi profe explica muy mal 
past harbor
¿Os deja usar cosas que no habéis dado? El mío es muy estricto, no sé el tuyo
gusty ermine
es tonto mi profe. no sabe explicar nada, tenemos que buscarnos la vida
past harbor
Ah, entonces
Bueno, deberías de ponerle un nombre a la ruta que contiene el index, para después desde los métodos hacer referencia a esa ruta con ese nombre que indicaste.
Para eso deberías usar ->name('nombreRuta');
Ejemplo:
Route::get('/alumno', 'AlumnoController@index') -> name('indexAlumno');
Y ya luego dentro del método que quieras del controlador, sólo debes redireccionar. Para eso debes usar esta sentencia
return redirect() -> route('nombreRuta');
En tu caso sería:
return redirect() -> route('indexAlumno');
@gusty ermine
Con esto debería ir, si tienes dudas me dices
eager wagon
gusty ermine
ay, puedo decirte algo mas? siento ser tan pesada XD acabo de ver otro fallo @past harbor
no se porqué me imprime muchas llaves esto
@foreach($alumnos as $alumnos) {
<tr>
<td>{{$alumnos->nombre}}</td>
<td>{{$alumnos->nota}}</td>
<td><a href="../public/alumno/{{$alumnos->id}}">Ver</a></td>
</tr>
} @endforeach
hybrid hull
Tf kinda language
icy pollen
PHP
past harbor
Porque estás abriendo el foreach con llaves, la forma de cierre que tiene el Blade es con @end
@foreach($alumnos as $alumnos) [{]
<tr>
<td>{{$alumnos->nombre}}</td>
<td>{{$alumnos->nota}}</td>
<td><a href="../public/alumno/{{$alumnos->id}}">Ver</a></td>
</tr>
[}] @endforeach
Quitando eso debería dejar de duplicártelas
@gusty ermine
hybrid hull
Dang
past harbor
Eso de abrir las llaves es de php, ahora estás con Blade
Antes solías poner las llaves {} porque estabas trabajando con php. Blade es como el "gestor de vistas", te permite trabajar con html, css y eso y obviamente trabaja de forma diferente
foreach($alumnos as $alumnos) {
....
}
?>
@gusty ermine
gusty ermine
muchas gracias de verdad y lo siento por ser tan tonta
past harbor
Está bien, si aprendiste de los errores con eso deberías quedarte
sacred harbor
solo voy a decir que las rutas NO deben de llevar el /public/, si lo llevan es que no lo estás configurando bien
si es el local puedes hacer un Vhost para que lo apuntes directo al /public/ de tu proyecto
ashen mist
Te gustan los archivos de dll?
past harbor
Ehh..
En clases no dejan hacer tales cosas
Si estás en tu casa, ok
En el colegio se ponen las cosas como el profesor diga
Aquí no se puede hacer lo que uno quiera
Si quieres en tu casa, perfecto
Además, public lo lleva así laravel
ashen mist
Y como decía mi profe
"Estudiantes, para que estamos acá en esta clase? Para conseguir dinero"
sacred harbor
el public indica que ahí van los archivos que son públicos, vamos, que se pueden ver desde el navegador
no para que se vea en la ruta
sacred harbor
si la ruta lleva el public eso quiere decir que puedes salir de ese directorio y ver todos los otros que no se deberían de poder ver
past harbor
Si todavía no quiere enseñarles eso
Mejor que no se ponga a tocar cosas
Son estrictos si te pones a hacer cosas que no vaya con la clase
La gente empieza a hacer lo que quiere y después en los exámenes te encuentras cosas
Que ni aparecieron en clase
Además lo que hace ella es básico, supongo que en el futuro se lo enseñarán
sacred harbor
es que eso no es de que sea avanzado del framework, cualquier framework (decente) actual, esta pensado para trabajar de esa forma
tener un dominio que apunte directamente al public *
y no en forma de carpetas
past harbor
Pues a mí no me lo enseñaron así y parece que a ella tampoco
Nosotros empezamos haciendo proyectos estúpidos, con un montón de rutas
Y al final al terminar se optimizo todo
Y parece que a ella le hacen lo mismo
past harbor
Cada profesor tiene una forma de dar clase.. y hay algunos que quieren enfocarse en unas cosas y otros en otras
Lo del public es una chorrada que se hace en nada, hasta yo prefiero enfocarme en otras cosas que en eso
past harbor
Java es mejor que python
mortal dagger
es porque la cultura de PHP siempre ha sido así amigo
desde que nació nunca la intención fue hacer las cosas bien
sacred harbor
como dije, no es cosa de PHP, es cosa del que lo hace así
mortal dagger
… and I tried to convince people that you should write the business logic in C and use my templating system, my C API that made it very, very easy to further forget about all the HTML specific things and all the web specific things because I had POST handling and cookies and all the things that you need, all you need to do is write your business logic in a strictly typed compiled language like you’re supposed to.
Nobody agreed with me.
Everybody just wanted to write their business logic in the templating system and it was very discouraging to me for years that I couldn’t convince anyone to write C code but the Web was growing so fast, exponentially, month-to-month it seemed that there just were not enough C developers around and many of the C developers thought the Web was a fad, it was a toy, it was going to go away, this was not something worth spending their time on and the people ended up tasked with building websites were not C developers, they weren’t developers at all, many of them documentation folks that kind of got tricked into building the company’s website.
Eventually I had to sort of give in and say, OK, fine, yes, I’ll add loops to the templating system - I don’t really see why you would need loops but fine, everyone’s asking for loops, function calls, local variables, recursion, like all this stuff slowly crept into the templating system over time because people kept asking for it and eventually, and I refused to call PHP a language for the first five years of the life of PHP, it was a templating system and an API but eventually I gave up and said, OK, fine, I’ll give in and try to make the tempating system better, so that you can actually write your business logic in the templating system and then people started writing templating systems for the templating system.
PHP solo te permite hacer las cochinadas que tú quieras
sacred harbor
y eso ni siquiera es cosa de PHP... es configuración del servidor 
y dices que la intención de PHP nunca ha sido hacer las cosas bien, cuando el mismo dice que su intención no era que se hiciera de esa forma
y vuelvo a lo mismo, no es el lenguaje, es el programador
mortal dagger
él mismo dice que la idea era limitar a que fuera un templating system, pero escaló muy rápido, escaló mal
todo quién tuviera un computador hizo y deshizo con PHP
es un tema cultural que siempre ha estado y siempre va a estar
eso del "es el programador" es justamente lo que estoy diciendo, la gente que trabaja con PHP han dedicado todos sus esfuerzos desde CI a sacarse las malas prácticas de encima
pero estamos en pleno 2020 y todavía estamos en lo misom
sacred harbor
pero es eso, lo único que tiene PHP es que te permite hacerlo tan bien o mal como tú quieras, pero eso no significa que el lenguaje se feo porque alguien hace el código feo
mortal dagger
nadie a dicho que el lenguaje es feo
sacred harbor
es como que dijeras algo como que un cuchillo es malo porque alguien lo usa para apuñalar a alguien
mortal dagger
yo dije textual "PHP y buenas prácticas no van de la mano"
y es por la actitud de agregar y agregar funcionalidades sin ninguna cohesión ni intención
mortal dagger
un programador no vive ni trabaja en el aire
sacred harbor
y ese mismo programador va a escribir código igual de mal en el lenguaje que sea
mortal dagger
no es coincidencia lo que gana un programador en PHP que un programador en otro lenguaje
sacred harbor
que python, por ejemplo, no te permita no indentar y por eso lo tenga que hacer, no quiere decir que por eso ya va a hacer todas las mejores prácticas
mortal dagger
usar Python como buenas prácticas dice mucho
porque historicamente tuvo el mismo problema
Python nació como un lenguaje de scripting y en el proceso a ser un lenguaje de propósito general tuvo los mismos problemas PHP
es cosa de ver la migración de 2.7 a 3.x
past harbor
Depende de cada uno.. como todo
Yo ni puedo ver python ni en pintura
Prefiero java
mortal dagger
yo mientras me mantenga lejos del web dev, feliz de la vida
y del ambiente muy "enterprise" de Java
ashen mist
He probado un par de lenguajes. El estilo de java/c++/c# me parece un poco... No sé
Me molesta jaja
mortal dagger
C# = Microsoft Java
ashen mist
L0l
sacred harbor
lenguajes *
ashen mist
Wow, literal pensé "lenguajes" y por alguna razón mis pulgares escribieron "idioma" sin que me diera cuenta jajaja
old charm
can someone help me with this question
express 3x²+18x-1 in the form a(x+b)²+c
I get you factorise it
into
3(x²+6x-1/3)
then complete the square for the brackets into
wait
WAIT
im dumb
mortal dagger
fue un gusto ayudar
old charm
ahhh fuck
I got 3(x+3)²-29
which apparently isnt the right answer
so I still need help aha
hmm
oh
I realised where I went wrong
mortal dagger
¿con qué? ¿con todo?
fathom flame
Considerando que no entiendo nada 🙂
rotund pawnBOT