🍁・general-2

[arctic niche]

I thought topology was graph theory

my brain is so bad today

[cursive wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynvydo_fKWo

[ashen mist]

I've barely scratched the surface of math

It scares me

I don't study it anymore

[real imp]

I do and I regret every second of it

[cursive wave]

What's wrong with maths

It's beautiful

[rough lava]

"this thing right here is worse than hitler"

"...chan"

lol

[ashen mist]

4chan?

[rough lava]

oh gosh

i'm 3:30 in

please tell me he doesn't do this for 20 mins

lol

[cursive wave]

Yes he does

😂😂😂😂

[stiff maple]

He does!

And I don't know why I watched about half of it

[gusty ermine]

😂

[stiff maple]

After that I just gave up

Cos I wasn't getting any of it

[rough lava]

look of evil

lol

you didn't get it?

it's a very simple and stupid video haha

he just purposely uses hard vocabulary

when he says "successor", what he means is this

4' is read as the successor of 4 and it equals 3

so 4' = 3

5' = 4

etc

[cursive wave]

Actually

He is using peanno arithmetic

[rough lava]

no idea what that is

[cursive wave]

Which is the basis of a lot of math

[eager wagon]

We need a maths channel, don't we

[rough lava]

this is it

[cursive wave]

It's the fundamental building blocks of all of maths

[rough lava]

ah

yeah

[cursive wave]

But it's never meant to be used in this way 😂😂

[rough lava]

just didnt know it was called that

it's definitely an interesting video!

it's how you prove 4*8

Anyway!

[cursive wave]

He actually has a lot of really good content too

Check out his integral series if you're interested

[rough lava]

when he says n * succ(m) = n*m + n its easier to understand with a solid example

[cursive wave]

It's really cool watching him work through various integrals

[rough lava]

oh wait a minute

oops i went the wrong direction with the primes lol

[stiff maple]

This stuff is confusing

[eager wagon]

@lavish estuary , not into maths? :D

[rough lava]

no its not confusing!

you can do this

lol

this is the end of the explanation

4' = 3

so

if you do for example

[stiff maple]

It usually takes me a while to grasp a concept

[rough lava]

3 * 6'

(well you can grasp this one)

[stiff maple]

So it's 3 * 5?

[rough lava]

wait maybe my defn is still backwards

[cursive wave]

Yea it is I think

[eager wagon]

What does the ' stand for?

[cursive wave]

Successor

[stiff maple]

What's the point of the ' thingy?

[cursive wave]

It's just notation

[eager wagon]

Uff, I don't understand maths in English haha

[rough lava]

ah ok I had it right haha

4' = 5

not 4' = 3

[stiff maple]

Makes sense

[cursive wave]

Successor of 4 = 4' = 5

[stiff maple]

Since successor means that comes after

[rough lava]

for example

the first line he writes

is

4 + 8 = 4 * 7'

[ashen mist]

I only do one's complement bitwise addition

[rough lava]

and if 4 * 7' = 4 * 8

[ashen mist]

To calculate checksums

[rough lava]

Then 4 * 7' = 4 * 7 + 4

[stiff maple]

Oh I see it now

[rough lava]

Yeah that's all it is

The entiiiiiiiiiire time

All the way down

Lol

[eager wagon]

Hold on, it was 4+8, not 4*8

[rough lava]

Forever

[stiff maple]

But I still don't get the point of the successor thing

[rough lava]

no his handwriting is just confusing lol @eager wagon

[stiff maple]

How is it useful

[rough lava]

for example

top one is addition

bottom one is multiplication

lol

[stiff maple]

Haha

[rough lava]

"how is it useful"

[cursive wave]

It's how we define maths

[rough lava]

because mathematicians love proving things in using the most fundamental principals

if you say "why is 4*8 = 32"

They want a way to prove that

Without pictures/just thinking

So the only assumption they make is

[cursive wave]

Lol using this abstract stuff you can prove that multiplication holds for all numbers

[rough lava]

2 comes after 1, 3 comes after 2, 4 comes after 3, 5 comes after 4...

That's the only assumption they make I think

Otherwise, you can't say 4 * 8 = 32

[stiff maple]

Hmm

[rough lava]

Because there's no reason why it should

[stiff maple]

Didn't he use addition to prove it?

[rough lava]

He uses a different fundamental property for that

hold on

I'm curious what it is

hey he used the name of my alt

[cursive wave]

Haha

[stiff maple]

Lol, wut

[cursive wave]

Yea because it's an abelian structure

[rough lava]

@native axle

So he gets to this step

And he has this rule

[cursive wave]

Anyways if you are interested in this look up "Peanno Arithmetic"

[rough lava]

So 4*0 = 0

so now he has 8 4's

now he has to find a way to addition fundamentally

which will be this

if 4' = 5

then 4 + 4 = 4 + 3' = (4 + 3)' = 7' = 8

[cursive wave]

Yea and that's why it took him 21 min to calculate 4*8

[stiff maple]

Lol

Makes sense though now

[rough lava]

at the end

he starts with one 4

and he goes goes goes goes

all the way across slowly

"here's where the real shit starts"

"its going to be an absolute mess"

[stiff maple]

That 4/3' = 1 though

[rough lava]

no its' not a fraction

[stiff maple]

Or is it not a fraction

[rough lava]

it's like a curly bracket

}

he's saying it equals

"this 4 is just 3 prime"

[stiff maple]

Ah

[rough lava]

if you wanted to prove why the formula works:

I'll bring back this:

4 + 4 = 4 + 3' = (4 + 3)' = 7' = 8

and add a step in the middle

i'll make the definition of the prime explicit

4 + 4 = 4 + 3' = 4 + (3 + 1) = (4 + 3) + 1 = (4 + 3)' |||| (everything after this part is cheating) |||| = 7' = 8

By saying 4' = 3 + 1

Or generally, n' = n + 1

Then (m + n) + p = m + (n + p) (associative property of addition)

[stiff maple]

Interesting

Wait, why is it cheating

[rough lava]

Because the whole point of this is we can't say 4 + 4 = 8

So

We can't say 4 + 3 = 7

[stiff maple]

Ah true 😄

[rough lava]

in the parenthesis there

lol

[stiff maple]

It's using the same thing it's trying to prove

[rough lava]

I just wanted to show it is indeed still all equal to 8

This is not meant to be simple to work through

Those steps

Yeah it's all just 3's and 4's

But it's ok to have to go slowly and like

"Ok so this is..... 3, ok, yeah.. and then..... ok so that's.... 4.... ok.... so that is still 7? yeah.... uh, wait, uh... yeah"

I am at least doing that

[stiff maple]

Yeah that last one was definitely the most confusing for me

[cursive wave]

BTW Sam you should be proud... You now understand a graduate level mafh concept

[rough lava]

^

[stiff maple]

Damn

Does that mean I get a diploma?

[cursive wave]

Yess

[stiff maple]

Thanks to ryry's great explanations

[cursive wave]

[rough lava]

I like how the amount of cursing increases through this video

[cursive wave]

Hahaha indeed

It'sike thst in math

The more you study it the more you hate yourself

[rough lava]

n^x = n'''''

it's an abbreviation for 5 primes

he's getting close!

[cursive wave]

Lol I'm surprised you watched the whole thing 😂

[rough lava]

i skipped the repetitive parts

[cursive wave]

Ahh I see

Honestly you should watch some of his integral videos... You might actually appreciate it cuz it's pretty cool

[rough lava]

Oh yeah you said that

Ok

holy shit that's so simple and genius lol

went from clueless to suddenly completely solvable haha

[cursive wave]

Lmao yea I really like watching those

It's great to see what techniques he uses

[rough lava]

he expressed the integral of x^-x as a function of like the fourth level down of variable substitutions lol

oh wait no he expressed it in terms of a dummy variable from his summation representation of e

nevermind that's ok

cool video

all the variable substitutions made me forget the difference between k and x-->u-->v

lol

[gusty ermine]

I saw this some time ago somewhere
Maths -> mental abuse to humans

[ashen mist]

I somehow got a math degree

Now I just play with computers

[stiff maple]

Wait really?

So you don't have a computer related degree?

[ashen mist]

I do

Computer science degree + math degree

[sacred harbor]

https://www.facebook.com/ParaNintenderos/videos/2378990439085114/

[rough lava]

Oh that got animated nice

[sacred harbor]

no he visto ningún cap

y suponiendo que es la que pienso

[rough lava]

I see

que es la que piensas?

[sacred harbor]

algo Kaiba, creo

cuál *

Yaiba era

Kimetsu no Yaiba

ah, y ya vi que sí es, abajo pone el nombre

[rough lava]

it's a fun story

i'm reading the japanese manga weekly as it comes out

[grizzled hedge]

I really like the anime so far.... seems well done

[arctic niche]

Wait

Dew the mod was banned for sexual harassment?

[brave mango]

Yes

[arctic niche]

What the fuck

that is gross

[brave mango]

It is

[arctic niche]

why do we still have these emojis

Can we remove them?

I didn't even know this happened

[brave mango]

I don't know but I propose a rat one

I didn't either

[ashen mist]

:( Sad era

Let's use Linux emojis

@junior thicket https://youtu.be/DzUL9uvc9Ko

Qué opinas de eso?

[junior thicket]

@ashen mist I wanna say no but like... Yea that's all pretty much true

At least with older dominican women, like our tías and madres

But like the tubi thing, for example? literally took mine off this morning after a whole day out with it. I laughed when they mentioned it

[ashen mist]

Jajaja

[royal saddle]

hay muchas tías en vuestro país

[junior thicket]

ig? I'm sure there are plenty of aunts in most countries

[royal saddle]

mari pls

[junior thicket]

Es verdad 😂

[royal saddle]

sabes qué he querido decir

el significado de jerga

[junior thicket]

Bueno, hay muchas mujeres en todos los países también

[tranquil canopy]

es sorprendente pero cierto

[celest bay]

I love that channel

julissa's the best

[lavish estuary]

Julissa

[celest bay]

[grizzled hedge]

I always love when theres a Dominican videooo - Love gadiel and julissa

Best accent

[junior thicket]

I like them both too. I'm so sad Julissa left. She really brought that extra flavor into their vids 😔

[celest bay]

They’re my favorites

[junior thicket]

hohoho would you look at what I found

https://www.buzzfeed.com/pablovaldivia/do-you-know-dominican-slang?bfsource=bfocompareon

Dominicans are so well fed by the latinos at Buzzfeed :)

[thin copper]

vaina is slang in my country too

lol

[junior thicket]

Venezuela, right?

[thin copper]

yep

I use it all the time 😅

[junior thicket]

Mhm. Es lo más useful

[celest bay]

that channel is 99% of the reason I like dominican stuff

woo 9/15

[junior thicket]

Ngl I'm dominican but the "pin-pun" one threw me off. Had to ask my mom 😂 apparently it's somewhat old so only older people and dominicans who imigrated use it

[celest bay]

i'm surprised que lo que wasn't on there

[junior thicket]

right??? That's the most basic slang here
like if you don't know que lo que you ain't getting nowhere

[thin copper]

¿qué lo que el mío?

[celest bay]

klk mi gente

[gusty ermine]

pero like is so annoying

they're part of buzzfeed, so it's no wonder

[ashen mist]

@junior thicket eso es como "que la que hay" en puerto rico?

[junior thicket]

@ashen mist I guess so? I've never heard a puerto rican say that before

but it does sound like it

[ashen mist]

Oh my Puerto Rican ex-coworker told me it was like "what's up"

[junior thicket]

Yeah exactly. Que lo que is used like that
now that I think about it, I have heard "que lo que hay" just never with "la"

[ashen mist]

Maybe that's the one haha my ears aren't the best

Hmm Google says que es la que hay

[junior thicket]

Puerto rican slang vs Dominican slang

Fight!

[arctic niche]

Qué hay de nuevo sounds better

[junior thicket]

:/

[arctic niche]

:c

[junior thicket]

"Que hay de nuevo" = Sounds good, is whatever
"Que lo que" = faster, effective, establishes dominance

Nah I'm just kidding

[arctic niche]

Qué lo - Modern way of saying what's up that natives don't seem to recognize

[junior thicket]

wnfwfni that sounds so weird!

[arctic niche]

[thin copper]

¿Qué más? is used here which means the same. lol

[ashen mist]

How about just "Q"

[stiff maple]

I know qué más from a long time ago from my Venezuelan friend

From before I started learning spanish 😄

[thin copper]

Q? = ¿Qué? @ashen mist / Ahh jaja yeah, it's used a lot @stiff maple

[ashen mist]

Sí jaja

[arctic niche]

https://youtu.be/RX2WrsHEbpI

Why is this so hilarious to me

[celest bay]

But why tho

[arctic niche]

I don't know...

I want to see what would happen

I giggled like a little kid

[junior thicket]

I don't wanna click on it what happened

[arctic niche]

Uh

[celest bay]

Oh no

We do not speak of that movie

[arctic niche]

yeah

but look in the bottom right

what if your only resource of spanish learing was alvin and the chipmunks

[celest bay]

oh my god

oh my god

[arctic niche]

imagine

the chipmunk accent

🤢

every word you say is high pitched

[sacred harbor]

[celest bay]

i'm scared

I used to listen to that album I don't want to imagine it in spanish

[sacred harbor]

[arctic niche]

[celest bay]

tony after I responded the toilet overflowed downstairs

what curse have you awakened

[dire atlas]

Bruh high pitched voices are the thing i hate the most

[flat sonnet]

rip the lolis

[arctic niche]

@flat sonnet what

[flat sonnet]

(✿◠‿◠)¯_(ツ)_/¯

they have high voices man

[lavish estuary]

[arctic niche]

Lolis

Yikes

[flat sonnet]

that are supposed to be cute, so maybe Spark can spare them? 😉

[arctic niche]

Well japan failed

I associate lollis with bad things

[flat sonnet]

pffffft

😂 tbh I don't know much about them so

haven't seen any anime with lolis..
yet

[lavish estuary]

''anime''

[flat sonnet]

[lavish estuary]

(don't tell the other mods I partake in such filthy acts of debauchery)

|| I'll probably have to delete this conversation xD ||

[arctic niche]

I have not seen anyone use this emoji

Dead meme

[celest bay]

I used it earlier

[flat sonnet]

||what do you meeeeaaaaaaaaaan||

[lavish estuary]

|| nothing ||

[flat sonnet]

👀

||nothing my butt||

[lavish estuary]

[flat sonnet]

[lavish estuary]

Does anybody know of a Discord bot that can do this? The more you participate the higher up you go

[gusty ermine]

Mee6?

[lavish estuary]

Is it free? The feature I mean

[eager wagon]

Doesn't it just put you on a higher level like the Tam bot now does and give you a new role once you reach a certain level?

[lavish estuary]

Yeah, exactly that

[eager wagon]

I think we got the tools right here already, just need to redefine the roles

[lavish estuary]

Nah, it's for my server.

[gusty ermine]

Mee6 te da un rol automáticamente cuando llegas a ciertos niveles, como en el otro server jalil

[eager wagon]

Yea, that's ok Jaleel, I just mean generally 😛

[lavish estuary]

Que si?

A ver, lo voy a probar

[eager wagon]

"Cave of Linguists" has something like this

I think

[gusty ermine]

I think so

[thick hound]

You can do that with Tatsumaki too

[lavish estuary]

Cómo se hace

[eager wagon]

You ask very nicely and bring biscuits

Tatsu likes biscuits

Who owns this bot anyway?

[thick hound]

No estoy segura, pero estaba en un servidor hace unos meses donde podrías obtener un nuevo nivel con más EXP de Tatsumaki

[gusty ermine]

Será con esto

Creo que no está cargando

[thick hound]

Sí, no puedo ver la imagen

[gusty ermine]

Ahora si

[thick hound]

Ah sí eso

[lavish estuary]

perfecto

gracias

[gusty ermine]

De nada

[sacred harbor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/cymbgd/you_are_the_chosen_one/

[eager wagon]

[stiff maple]

@copper fox I remember he did have a role

[exotic kite]

🆙 | Fabian leveled up!

[copper fox]

y tf u lyin

y u always lyin

[stiff maple]

Lol

Must've mixed up

[copper fox]

.inrole Serbia

[junior crystal]

**List of users in **Serbia** role** - 3

Nemanja#9988
steff#3472
Vladeta#0112

1 / 1

[copper fox]

maybe with this role?

[stiff maple]

Ah yes, that's him

Nemanja

For some reason I remember he took the same role as you

But maybe I mixed him up with the other guy that didn't take a role

[copper fox]

Well, I'm gonna add the role of Serbia in a month

so we'll technically have the same role after all

[stiff maple]

See, I don't lie, I predict the future

[copper fox]

I messaged a girl from Serbia that joined a few days ago and she never responded

;-;

[gusty ermine]

Any Russians?

In Russia

You?

https://open.spotify.com/track/7qkVoQ5mK3dVcyOx6KKm0R?si=FkhSshJxTryPzHxrxlugdQ

I got this song in my Weekly Discovery

I just want to know what it is about?

[copper fox]

wait lemme see

I know some Russian

"Me caso con chicas de anime" @gusty ermine

[gusty ermine]

Right

Well thanks I hate it

[copper fox]

lmao

a big bruh moment

[gusty ermine]

wow

[stiff maple]

Lol wtf that song title, lol

@copper fox a guy I know told me he got Spotify premium service for like $1 on plati.ru

Or maybe it wasn't premium

Anyway, apparently there's a way for Russian folks

Or slavs

He's from poland

[copper fox]

meh, i'll stick with downloading songs for now

[stiff maple]

Spotify is great though, try it

[royal saddle]

wait what

not available in your country

[ashen mist]

Does Spotify allow connections from tor

[prisma furnace]

Spotify is pretty good

But it doesn't has all the songs

[stiff maple]

Yeah it doesn't

[prisma furnace]

It offers a very small hindi collection

And Charlie Puth is missing

Charlie Puth

[stiff maple]

I have to resort to youtube when I can't find something

What kind of music do you listen to?

[prisma furnace]

Exactly

[stiff maple]

What does this Charlie puth put out?

[prisma furnace]

YouTube's music service isn't good enough tho

You haven't heard Charlie Puth

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3AtDnEC4zak
🎥 Charlie Puth - We Don't Talk Anymore (feat. Selena ... - YouTube

[flat sonnet]

Charlie puth has many talents

👍

He has a good falsetto

[stiff maple]

Ah the guy from that song

[celest bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=64&v=vxQxHOfOCo0

[stiff maple]

Ah the guy from that song

I'm surprised he isn't there, I know that song got popular a while back 🤔

[lusty sedge]

Oye necesito ayuda.

He estado pintando mi bicicleta con pintura negra mate y quiero poner mi nombre en la bicicleta en naranja viva. Estoy intentando elegir una fuente en que el nombre pueda parecer lujoso pero todavía no puedo decidir.

[gusty ermine]

Cual te guste más

[lusty sedge]

no sé. El primer diseño es muy parecido a mi escritura, pero el segundo me recuerda de un carro deportivo y es muy lujoso.

Ok. Voy a hacer el segundo. Estará mejor.

El cursivo va a causar problemas cuando intento hacer una plantilla y no es tan moderno como el segundo logotipo.

[ashen mist]

My laptop is falling apart

Might just build a desktop

[sacred harbor]

[ashen mist]

But then it's not portable :(

[sacred harbor]

[ashen mist]

Jajaja

[sacred harbor]

y siempre te la puedes llevar a donde quieras

[ashen mist]

Un desktop?

[sacred harbor]

[stiff maple]

Sip

Pero necesitarás una pantalla

[sacred harbor]

te la llevas

[keen sundial]

this damn song is stuck in my head lol

[gusty ermine]

Well what song?

[knotty grove]

good tattoo or no?

[lavish estuary]

Anthony Pettis with some bs 😂

I can do you one better though

I lied, it's Pettis

[gusty ermine]

@knotty grove why did you have to do khabib like that

[knotty grove]

hmm Kailin Kurran she got cut

I dunno it's a curious picture

[gusty ermine]

@lavish estuary literally jon jones

[knotty grove]

k I'll do you one better Jalee

with a leg tattoo

[lavish estuary]

Oh my

[gusty ermine]

go

[gusty ermine]

lets see

DELETE

[knotty grove]

lmfao 😆

[gusty ermine]

AGHHHHHHHHHH

[lavish estuary]

[gusty ermine]

i can top that

but way too graphic for here

[knotty grove]

k I fixed it

[gusty ermine]

I'll just say three words

Anderson Silva Shin

[lavish estuary]

aaaaaaa

bad memories

[ashen mist]

Rip

Reminds me of that scene in Undisputed 2

[keen sundial]

@gusty ermine lluvia

The song

"no me digas nada ya lo sabía"

dammit!

[gusty ermine]

@past harbor

[past harbor]

me conecte

para hacer fotos lol

[gusty ermine]

lo se

¿Pero habláis?

[past harbor]

la gente

habla

sí

xd

[ashen mist]

Yo hablaré después de salir del trabajo

[gusty ermine]

@ashen mist ok

no se si voy a estar

[ashen mist]

No te preocupes

[arctic niche]

God damnit I have to sign up for my programming Engineering class tomorrow and they don't specify the date :/

I need this class to transfer into Civil Engineering, if I don't get it I have to talk to people and beg them to let me in

[tawny lily]

Hi¿

[ashen mist]

@shadow juniper tengo que hacer cosas de priv esc jaja

[neat wigeon]

tengo que traducir una letra de cambio para español, pero no entiendo esta parte, trate de acercame lo más que pude pero sigo en dudas, siento que esta mal

http://prntscr.com/p1jsjo

si alguien me puede ayudar, se lo agradeceria ♥

http://prntscr.com/p1jsti este fue mi intento

[lavish estuary]

¿Qué se supone que significa el **** ?

[neat wigeon]

no tengo idea la verdad, supongo que debe ser algun numero o codigo del banco

[lavish estuary]

¿Es solo esa línea o forma parte de un verso?

[neat wigeon]

es un letra de cambio, asi como un cheque

http://prntscr.com/p1jven

[lavish estuary]

jajajajajajajaja

he entendido mal

pensaba que era la letra de una canción (la madre que me parió)

[neat wigeon]

[bronze burrow]

😂

[lavish estuary]

Yeah, I have no clue. I'll bring in reinforcements

@stiff maple can you understand it?

[hearty hazel]

So, what possibilites can *** be?

[stiff maple]

Where

Which one

[hearty hazel]

He's trying to translate http://prntscr.com/p1jsjo

[rough trench]

Why is it blanked out??

[stiff maple]

Oh

That seems weird

[rough trench]

Isn't it first?

[stiff maple]

That was my first thought

[hearty hazel]

Can you articulate that question to ask Hiroshi?

To clarify, that would probably help with context

[lavish estuary]

He thinks it's a code or an account number

[stiff maple]

It doesn't make sense as an account nbr

The whole sentence doesn't make much sense

[hearty hazel]

Oh sorry.. just saw that jaleel

[exotic kite]

🆙 | Taeticus leveled up!

[stiff maple]

Ok I think I might have figured it out

I think it's a duration of time

Something like
"at 60 days after sight of the First of exchange..."

But the writing is really sloppy and it looks like it's missing words

[rough trench]

Yeah I don't know how to save that sentence ahhahaha

[stiff maple]

Like for example I imagine it should be "first bill of exchange"

And "second of the same tenor"

[hearty hazel]

Oh.. "at sight of this first bill of exchange" = "Once this Bill of Exchange has been recieved"

[neat wigeon]

It could be that, the teacher gave us 6 of this with the same stuff, but i keep struggling myself trying to translate that

[hearty hazel]

@neat wigeon not your fault. This has very odd choice of wording

Its essentially saying "when you have recieved this, it's of good quality (tenor?), and the bill has not already been paid, then.."

It sounds like a Bill of Lading.. instead of Exchange

bill of lading as "A writing signed on behalf of the owner of ship in which goods are embarked, acknowledging the receipt of the Goods, and undertaking to deliver them at the end of the voyage, subject to such conditions as may be mentioned in the bill of lading."

[glass dragon]

Does anybody here have any experience with Pi Hole? Ping me if you do

[hybrid rampart]

@silver crypt explain yourself

:p

I dont want to sound passive aggresive lol

[silver crypt]

Okay, so there's a theory, made in the late 90's/early 2000's that states English could be a creole

But rather than becoming a full fledged pidgin, it was merely partially creolized

It underwent parts of the process, but not all of it

[hybrid rampart]

Pidgin is what is at first

Pidgin -> creole

[silver crypt]

I know

But of the theory is true, we speak a creole

[glass dragon]

Creole of what languages?

[hybrid rampart]

But that makes no sense

[silver crypt]

The theory comes from the super simplification of our grammar in only 150-200 years

[hybrid rampart]

English comes from Proto Germanic and that comes from PIE

(Proto Indo European)

A creole is for example Tok Pisin

[silver crypt]

We developed a very strict word order

[hybrid rampart]

Tok Pisin has no antecessor

[silver crypt]

Verbs reduced to only 3 conjugations

In the present tense

No gender system

Cases practically deleted

[hybrid rampart]

Pidgin if I am not wrong ( I may be wrong) always refer to the "fussion" of two or more languages

Generally one being the lexical language and the other one being the grammar language

For example Chabacano in the Philipines

[glass dragon]

Wait, so the theory is basically that the grammatical structure underwent a massive overhaul, which they are calling a creolization?

[silver crypt]

And it would be anglo-saxon/french

A partial creolization

[glass dragon]

Oh I see, so I am still misunderstanding you

[hybrid rampart]

So two languages with complex conjugations and gender systems fused together into having non of it?

[silver crypt]

English still retains many complex things that pidgins do not have

[hybrid rampart]

I have never read about that theory but it honestly doesn't sound very well

[glass dragon]

So English, which already existed, partially creolized with french and Anglo Saxon

?

[silver crypt]

However, we underwent massive grammar and entire word changes in 200 years

That doesn't happen

Like at all

[hybrid rampart]

Not really

The great vowel shift was what happened

[silver crypt]

Usually, you can still read a language from 200 years ago

That happened from middle to modern English I believe

[hybrid rampart]

Derived from there grammar changes in some ways because of how everything got changedd

That was the moment a lot of the complexities of english were lost right?

[glass dragon]

I thought it was the great vowel shift that made older English so hard to read

[hybrid rampart]

I am no expert in the history of the english language

No

Actually the funny thing is English got a writing system set

And then the vowel shift happened

So now the writing system just doesn't make any sense

[silver crypt]

I believe that happened in the middle ages

[glass dragon]

Ag

[hybrid rampart]

It happened quite late actually

[glass dragon]

Ah

[silver crypt]

And yes that is why we can't spell

[glass dragon]

Waddlez, I'm going to post my question again

[silver crypt]

We spell words like they were said 500 years ago

[glass dragon]

So English, which already existed, partially creolized with french and Anglo Saxon?

[hybrid rampart]

The Great Vowel Shift was a series of changes in the pronunciation of the English language that took place primarily between the 1600s and 1700s

[silver crypt]

Anglo Saxon was English

And it mixed with French

[hybrid rampart]

It didn't happen as late as I thought

My fault

[glass dragon]

Ah ok, i see what you're trying to say

[silver crypt]

Anglo-saxon and french blending would've taken place in the 1100's

Middle English occurred by 1320

[hybrid rampart]

Still I don't think a language can be creolized

I think a language either is one or it is not

But the thing about english being kind of a creole could be

Now that you explained what you meant

[silver crypt]

I think it's possible

Because the French weren't there forever but they definitely rubbed off on English

Potentially a lot

[hybrid rampart]

They rubbed it in a lexical way

But not in grammar

It's like ottoman turkish vs common turkish

[silver crypt]

So anglo-saxon would be the grammatical base

French would be the word base

[odd hollow]

I’ve been in this server for over a year and I’m still to lazy to figure out how to give myself roles

[sacred harbor]

[vale quarry]

.iam [role] yw

[odd hollow]

Lmao thanks 🙏 😂

[past harbor]

@odd hollow .lsar #🤖・general-bot

[ashen mist]

@median trail hice una estupidez en mi trabajo ayer

quise hacer rm algo* para eliminar los archivos cuyos nombres empezaran con "algo". Pero sin querer, dije rm algo *, y eliminé todos los archivos en mi directorio jajaja

triste

[median trail]

wow

y los pudiste recuperar?

[ashen mist]

y eso me ocurrió literalmente 5 minutos antes de que quisiera salir de trabajo

jajaja

ehhh

no

no se puede recuperar los archivos borrados por "rm" a menos que uses herramientas especiales. Tuve que reinstalar el programa que usaba ese directorio

afortunadamente, tuve archivos antiguous de configuración en gitlab

pero los actualicé hace... más de una semana? así que me esforcé recordar qué más añadí durante la semana pasada jaja

pero todo está bien ahora

una idea importante - definir el comando rm para usar mv <file> ~./trash o algo así

o sea, usar un directorio como una papalera de reciclaje

[median trail]

uff

[past harbor]

https://www.marca.com/deportes-invierno/2019/09/04/5d6fa629e2704e62578b45ba.html

[desert crystal]

holy crap

my whole fucking tribe died because a sabertooth invaded my camp

[neat wigeon]

Well i just have to wait until my teacher corrects my hw, thx for helping @hearty hazel @rough trench @stiff maple @lavish estuary

[hearty hazel]

[glass dragon]

@past harbor estas aqui?

wait, @lavish estuary estas aqui?

[lavish estuary]

What happened

[glass dragon]

so I don't understand the thing about the pin you asked me to do

[past harbor]

sí

dime

[glass dragon]

I think we decided that we would allow basic slang as long as it's explained. should I edit my pin in #🐟・ᴇɴ∕beginner and in #🐸・ꜱᴘ∕principiante ?

[lavish estuary]

I don't think there's a pin in #🐸・ꜱᴘ∕principiante

[past harbor]

hay pin en beginner

pero no existe en principiante

[lavish estuary]

Eso

[glass dragon]

ok, so I need to edit the pin in the english channel?

[past harbor]

por qué pone #🐟・ᴇɴ∕beginner dos veces?

[lavish estuary]

Uhm, I'm not sure when it comes to #🐟・ᴇɴ∕beginner but we definitely need to put something in #🐸・ꜱᴘ∕principiante

[past harbor]

¿Al final que se decidió?

¿se puede jerga pero explicada?

[lavish estuary]

Sí, eso pero también que no sea excesiva

[glass dragon]

to emphasize that beginner english is the only channel they can't use slang in @past harbor

[ashen mist]

Imagine playing Tekken in virtual reality

Steve Fox@@@!@!

[past harbor]

@copper fox

Entre todos los significados de get apareces tú

[copper fox]

@past harbor

Jajajajajja no lo entiendo

pero está bien

[past harbor]

no ves que pone

Puzzle?

[copper fox]

Sí, pero no entiendo cómo usar "get" para significar "puzzle"

[past harbor]

ni yo

pero ahí está

xDD

[copper fox]

Jajajajajjajajajaajaja

Me alegro de todos modos

[twin stratus]

es lo que dicen los raperos todo el tiempo: "I'm gonna get some puzzle!" :D

[copper fox]

[tranquil canopy]

es sentido común, Puzzle es amigo de todos, entonces cuando lo vamos a buscar

"let's get Puzzle"

🚙

inglés decifrado

[copper fox]

[royal saddle]

@twin stratus te robaré ese emojicito cuando tengamos 50 boostes

o cuántos sean

[twin stratus]

faltan 39

[vivid agate]

Puzzle, "I don't get it" may be similar to "I'm puzzled" (just above puzzle, I can see perplex in the picture), that might be the reason why...?

[ashen mist]

Then it should be "understand"

[brave mango]

Maybe it's the "get" in "That's what gets me"? Meaning "That what I don't understand/don't like"

[mellow kite]

”don't get", +1 for "don't understand" by the relations, but "I'm trying to puzzle out why in the world he thought that scooter would make it." also exists.

That's a really neat image.

It'd actually be really nice to have a bot that generated related word maps on command, too.

[twin stratus]

[dire atlas]

so many people here in this group chat

[grizzled hedge]

People go crazy for sesión

👌

[celest bay]

They really do

[eager wagon]

It's fun

A structured way where everyone gets attention and the ability to mess up

[glass dragon]

tengo un servidor de ubuntu 18.04 en el cual tengo algunos servidores de juegos

hace unas semanas, decidí, por solo tener un servidor más, cancelar mi servidor profesional e instalar ubuntu en un servidor que tengo en mi casa, y copié el servidor del juego a esta computadora

[sacred harbor]

e instalar *

[glass dragon]

pero ahora estoy viendo señales de rate limiting o de errores de conexion, y estoy preguntandome si habia algunas configuraciones que no recuerdo haber hecho en el servidor profesional que tengo que hacer en la instalacion nuevo de ubuntu

[mortal dagger]

la verdad nunca lo he hecho, pero puede ser por un tema de Internet

o sea, desde el ISP, el router o cosas así

[glass dragon]

si, vamos a hacerlo en windows para ver si tenenmos el mismo problema

[mortal dagger]

porque esos problemas en los VPS los tienen super arreglados, he escuchado de gente que para tenerlos en sus casas o para hacerlo ellos mismos tienen que hacer un plan especial

[sacred harbor]

y cuál es la restricción que tienes?

puede ser problema de tu hardware o del servidor

[glass dragon]

Veo "Ping spikes" en las conexiones de los usuarios

[sacred harbor]

por lo que veo, son picos elevados de ping eso? 🤔

[glass dragon]

Sí

De 3 milisegundos hasta 1000 ms

Lo veo aún entre el LAN

[sacred harbor]

entonces el problema está ahí xD

[glass dragon]

Sí

Por eso pensé que hay algo de este limiting en ubuntu

[sacred harbor]

cuántos se conectan?

no será que saturan el ancho de banda

[mortal dagger]

IIRC Linux no tiene un límite por defecto, tampoco los servidores web

[glass dragon]

No, aun sin conexiones ningunas lo veo con una app de monitoreo

[sacred harbor]

y seguiste algún tuto de como montarlo? 🤔

[glass dragon]

El servidor?

O sea, del juego?

[sacred harbor]

yep

[glass dragon]

No, solo lo copié del servidor original, donde funcionó perfectamente

Por eso pensé que fue alguma configuración malhecha en ubuntu

[sacred harbor]

pero qué copiaste? carpetas?

[mortal dagger]

y que servidor web usa?

[glass dragon]

No uso servidor web

Por qué no, dll?

[sacred harbor]

por qué no qué?

[real imp]

@mortal dagger gracias por la ayuda anoche TnT

Me anduvo el LoL también

[mortal dagger]

con qué lo hiciste

¿snapd, lutris o wine?

[glass dragon]

Por qué no copiarlo?

Con ningunos

Cómo hice qué?

[mortal dagger]

no po, qué copiaste

[glass dragon]

el servidor del juego

[mortal dagger]

pero qué es "el servidor" del juego

es una carpeta, un script

una VM

[glass dragon]

oh, es una carpeta

[mortal dagger]

¿tienes el tutorial que seguiste?

por ejemplo, cómo recibe las request, como las devuelve

[glass dragon]

para copiar una carpeta? no necesite un tutorial para eso

[mortal dagger]

no, de cómo instalaste el juego

[glass dragon]

si, la primera vez que lo hice, si

[mortal dagger]

es que yo creo que puede ir por el cómo manejas las conexiones

por eso pregunaba por el servidor web

porque pudiste copiar la carpeta del juego, pero no la configuración de apache por ejemplo

[glass dragon]

oh ok

jmmm

como veo cual es?

oh es apache

[mortal dagger]

o sea, no sé, podría ser cualquier cosa y todos funcionan relativamene distinto

[glass dragon]

wouldn't it be a bit weird for apache to be rate limiting connections to a completely different port though?

[mortal dagger]

apache creo que tiene un límite súper grande, como 256 conexiones concurrentes

pero si no me equivoco, por defecto, escala solo hasta quedarse sin RAM

[glass dragon]

al servidor total? no solo al port

[mortal dagger]

¿cómo? apache usa 1 solo puerto

[glass dragon]

si

como seria que las conexiones a ese port limitaria las conexeciones a otro?

[mortal dagger]

no debería hacerlo, pero ayudaría saber quién es el que está controlando eso

[glass dragon]

controlando que?

[mortal dagger]

las conexiones

no sé ni siquiera bajo qué protocolo lo están haciendo

[glass dragon]

ah ya

aqui esta el ping jaja

whereas this is the stability of the ping just sending packets

[ashen mist]

Ping Pong

http://infocenter.sybase.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.sybase.help.sqlanywhere.12.0.1/relayserver/ml-relayserver-deploy-gt256connapache.html

No creo que ping te diga nada de apache

[glass dragon]

Well I discovered I'm getting significanty slower speed tests from the ubuntu machine compared to my windows machine

I thought it was not having the ethernet drivers updated but even after the update it's fine

[ashen mist]

This is just for packets traversing the network?

[glass dragon]

what is "this"?

[ashen mist]

Your speed tests

[glass dragon]

no, they were to a speed test server

[ashen mist]

Oh

Like data transfer speeds?

Cuz Ethernet can be hella fast

[glass dragon]

yes

like i get 98Mbps from my PC but the ubuntu pc only gets 48

like half the speed for some reason

[ashen mist]

Lol what

[glass dragon]

what?

[ashen mist]

No, I'm surprised

[glass dragon]

oh

yeah I know

it's super slow

[ashen mist]

Maybe it was updating at the same time haha

[glass dragon]

no I ran it a bunch

omg

you saw nothing

[ashen mist]

Lol

Was that a password

[glass dragon]

no

not at all

[ashen mist]

Hahaha

[glass dragon]

what a shitty password that would be

[ashen mist]

You'd be surprised

Look up the top 100 passwords

Found in data breaches

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_common_passwords

Password crackers are hella fast

[grizzled hedge]

12345 best password

[ashen mist]

123456 is #2 on that list I just posted

Well, in 2011 and 2012

[stiff maple]

Lol, there's donald in there

For this year

[grizzled hedge]

I just let my password manager make a strong one for me

Then I just forget it

And store it in there

[stiff maple]

Or last year

[ashen mist]

I hope you have a strong password for the manager

[grizzled hedge]

Yeee

And written down

[ashen mist]

And multi factor authentication

[celest bay]

this day has not gone well

[sacred harbor]

lastpass

[stiff maple]

What has transpired

[celest bay]

I’m just feeling sad today. Family member made a joke they make all time and today it got to me.

[eager wagon]

What joke?

[celest bay]

Graduated a few years ago and have had one job that didn’t last, so comments about getting a job. I don’t mind, it’s good motivation. Today I just wasn’t in a good space for it.

Overtired, didn’t eat much, stomach is sore, plus some girl stuff is probably amplifying it. miss my cat and my bike. Gonna walk around for a bit.

[eager wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-hug-gif-5026057

Sorry to hear, Abi

[celest bay]

thanks man

[stiff maple]

Take care of yourself abby

It will pass

[celest bay]

Might go make a cuppa while it passes.

I know it’ll pass. It’s just temporary sad

[stiff maple]

Yeah, it just helps if you take care of yourself, eat well, sleep well, exercise, and just do the things you like to disconnect, despite the pull in the opposite direction to just disregard everything

Pay extra attention to yourself and you will feel better

Virtual hugs from here too

[celest bay]

It’s harder at the moment, ironically, because we’re on vacation and it’s harder to go off on your own in an isolated(ish) area. But yeah I’ve got my Nintendo switch hooked up, I’ve got laptop overwatch and the league to watch tonight.
I’ll try and be more assertive about what I want to do.

Ty for hugs I’ll put on my audiobook of game of thrones and walk around. old trusty.

Then I’ll make the cuppa

[stiff maple]

[celest bay]

[ocean skiff]

chocolatito

[gusty ermine]

Khabib beat Poirier

[torn jewel]

more hugs abi chan

[celest bay]

I’m good now, walk helped a ton

Cuppa soon

[gusty ermine]

@celest bay 😀

[celest bay]

Walkies and game of thrones heals many things

[ashen mist]

Ah yes. Good old character introductions and then their deaths 2 episodes later

[celest bay]

Listen nobody’s died in the last couple chapters

[glass dragon]

@mortal dagger @sacred harbor usé un "live usb" para probar otra distro y el internet funciona perfecto. Tiene que ser algo de Ubuntu. Creo que voy a cambiar de distro

[ashen mist]

Pero usaste apt-get upgrade y apt-get update y todo eso?

[glass dragon]

Sí

[ashen mist]

Interesante

[tardy marsh]

@glass dragon puedes usar una máquina virtual y usar pantalla completa

[glass dragon]

Cómo me ayudaría eso?

[ashen mist]

Es que ella quiere crear un servidor

Según creo

[glass dragon]

Sí

[tardy marsh]

oh, i mean... dijiste que estabas "probando" otra distro

[ashen mist]

@glass dragon https://askubuntu.com/questions/994912/wired-internet-connection-is-very-slow-on-ubuntu-16-04-03-lts

[tardy marsh]

las maquinas virtuales son buenas para probar (?)

[glass dragon]

Sí, para averiguar si es un problema de la distro o problema con el motherboarf

[ashen mist]

No sé si te sería útil esa página @glass dragon

[glass dragon]

Pero ya lo probé

Sí, he leído esa página

[ashen mist]

Ah jajja

[glass dragon]

Probé todas esas soluciones y aún más jaja

[ashen mist]

Quién sabe

Al menos tenés otras distribuciones

[sacred harbor]

[ashen mist]

Jajaja

[mortal dagger]

siempre existe la posibilidad de usar Hannah Montana Linux

[glass dragon]

Eso existe?

[mortal dagger]

sí, es Debian con cosas de Hannah Montana

[tardy marsh]

Tienes problemas con la velocidad en ubuntu

en la terminal? o con todas las paginas

[mortal dagger]

con el servidor de [algo]

[tardy marsh]

apt-get y lo demás, depende mucho del ancho de banda en la otra parte

probá descargando algo de steam

[glass dragon]

No, en speedtest-cli veo que la velocidad es una mitad de lo que tengo en la pc

Aunque cuando copio archivos en la LAN veo que la velocidad es normal, y con la otra distro fue normal, entonces sé que es algo con ubuntu

[ashen mist]

O algo con Speedtest-cli...

[glass dragon]

Quizás, pero simplemente es una prueba de speedtest.net expresado en el command line

[glass dragon]

Estoy instalando debian. Espero que arregle mis problemas

[sacred harbor]

no sabes a dónde te estás metiendo

[ashen mist]

Good old debian

[glass dragon]

@celest bay this quote reminded me of the discussion about eyebrows from the other day. "Consider that there is a sedimentation of gender norms that produces the peculiar phenomenon of a natural sex, or a real woman, or any number of prevalent and compelling social fictions that over time has produced a set of corporeal styles which, in reified form, appear as the natural configuration of bodies into sexes which exist in binary relation to one another."

[celest bay]

yep basically

it's like expectations vs reality

I have decided to wash all my laundry in a bucket henceforth after getting told in an ANGRY manner that you must wash jeans on heavy and that you cannot wash them with a certain type of shirt and that if your heat is wrong it'll all shrink. and that the washing machine that time forgot DOES have an automatic mode and OF COURSE you use that and nobody uses timed dry, it shouldn't exist, how dare you suggest that that's how dryers used to work.

meanwhile at home my stuff goes on normal and it's fine unless it's a towel or a super delicate shirt

[ashen mist]

how much spaghetti code would break if daylight savings no longer existed?

[celest bay]

i'm going to go stalk the beaches since I now have to wear my dirty jeans AGAIN and my other pair has been pushed back to the very last thing to be washed for the crime of being jeans

it'd break everything vera

all of it

[eager wagon]

I just wash whatever all together

[gusty ermine]

@eager wagon still awake

[eager wagon]

No

[gusty ermine]

suspect

@eager wagon you have work tomorrow?

[eager wagon]

No, today

I'm gonna go sleep :D

[gusty ermine]

of course i forgot

night then ☺️

[eager wagon]

Cya in about 8 hours!

[gusty ermine]

@eager wagon hope you like scrambled eggs with bread in the morning

[eager wagon]

I love it

Are you making me some?

[gusty ermine]

perfect

yeah

[eager wagon]

[gusty ermine]

that will be £3

[eager wagon]

😂

Londoners..

[gusty ermine]

to cover VAT