🍁・general-2

[drowsy sparrow]

esta comiendo caca

[stoic lantern]

oye que rico

[gusty ermine]

medas?

[stiff maple]

@copper fox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y36kMMLDjpI

Es muy probable que te conviertas en un grandísimo aficionado de la física después de ver este vídeo y escuchar la canción 😄

[copper fox]

👀

a ver...

[stiff maple]

Cómo va la transformación?

[copper fox]

The Lorentz transformations? Well, they are a one-parameter family of linear transformations from a coordinate frame in space time to another frame that moves at a constant velocity, the parameter, within the former. The transformations are named after the Dutch physicist Hendrik Lorentz. The respective inverse transformation is then parametrized by the negative of this velocity.

(I'm a changed man)

Estás escribiendo un ensayo? 👀

[stiff maple]

No, justo empecé a escribir

[copper fox]

empecé *

[stiff maple]

Bueno, lo que quería decir es:
Excelente! Otra adquisición para nuestro ejército. Asumirás el grado de teniente

[copper fox]

Por supuesto, me rindo para El Dios de física

[stiff maple]

Fuck, carelessness

[copper fox]

Are you trying to say

that the ah > am ?

acceleration of your hands was greater than the acceleration of your mind?

[stiff maple]

Or rather, the inertia in your comment drove the momentum in my fingers to a speed that the friction of my mind couldn't hold for long enough to process

Okay, let's not further divulge any more of our secret information in full view of our enemies

[copper fox]

ohyesofcourse

[astral schooner]

https://youtu.be/A8zWWp0akUU

[glass dragon]

@twilit solar I just finished listening to the episode "Escuchadme, terráqueos" from the podcast Radio Ambulante. It very very briefly touched on the topic of prestige dialects in Peru. While it said little more than "some people's manner of speaking can hurt their chance for success and that's not right", I thought you might be interested in listening to it as a jumping-off place for your research into prestige dialects in Spanish

[twilit solar]

ty

tbh i had forgotten about that argument

[glass dragon]

Oh haha. Not me. It's somethibg that interests me greatly and it was nice that you got my mind thinking about it and then this podcast came up

[silver crypt]

@glass dragon what do you mean by prestige dialect

Like high German?

[torn jewel]

Like that stereotypical royal British accent (ie, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_Pronunciation ) , at least on a lot of American media where I believe that's the stereotype for someone, er, prestigious

I've never thought much on a Spanish prestige accent, the closest conversation I've had is people from other Latin American countries raving about Columbia's "clean" and "neutral" accents

Still wasn't prestigious though, if anything it was more about aesthetics I suppose

I've also had the reverse conversations I suppose; ones about Spanish accents that are considered not prestigious

I suppose I've had people talk about that one quite a bit more

[glass dragon]

@silver crypt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prestige_(sociolinguistics)

Basically, do other speakers have an unconscious bias toward believing certain things about a person based on their accent

According to that podcast, the person very briefly mentioned that people in Peru who speak Spanish with a native accent (eg their first language was quechua or any of the other many languages) are accorded fewer opportunities socially than those who speak Spanish natively

[cursive wave]

Ooh I learned about prestige in my socioling class this semester

The very first study on this was actually done in Canada I believe

[celest bay]

I know some people go to classes to lose their regional accents because feel like they're taken less seriously with a strong accent

https://www.npr.org/2011/07/11/137773357/bostonians-take-class-to-ditch-their-accent

"And after the class began for actors, a lot of regular people started taking the class, people who basically all shared the idea that they thought the accent made them sound uneducated and was holding them back in some way on a professional level."

[hazy hatch]

pak de ka

sounds semi-british to me

[exotic kite]

🆙 | Naird leveled up!

[tranquil canopy]

"En el mundo hispanohablante no hay un solo dialecto de prestigio: en vez de eso, la norma culta de la variedad utilizada en la capital es generalmente el dialecto de prestigio de cada país (por ejemplo, el español peruano ribereñoen Perú, o el español rioplatense en Argentina y Uruguay)"
What we were saying the other day, it's not like english at all, each country has something that may sound more prestigious, but that's inside the country

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialecto_de_prestigio

[celest bay]

@hazy hatch it's a non-rhotic accent (R sounds get dropped) like british english is

that's interesting that spanish doesn't have the same kind of preference

[tranquil canopy]

All cultures are different

[arctic niche]

i like bostonian accent over texan

🤠

[tranquil canopy]

And there are many many countries, looking at outside dialects for example sounds very weird to me, and they dont't sound more prestigious to me, they just sound foreign

And at least here, could make you "less prestigious", there will always be some xenophobic people

[hazy hatch]

do you pronnunce strong t's as well?

[celest bay]

who

[hazy hatch]

bostonians

[celest bay]

🤔 what's a strong t sound like

[hazy hatch]

as in

actually saying the T instead of and r

water (warer) or / water

[celest bay]

I think in a boston accent you say the t like a d just like in standard american english

water -> watah/waddah

[hazy hatch]

standard american english t's always sounded like a soft r to me 🤔

[celest bay]

huh

[hazy hatch]

you know like warar/h

ahahahahaha

[celest bay]

i'm sitting here trying to say water over and over in a boston accent now

[hazy hatch]

soon water will begin to sound like the weirdest word ever

if not yet

[stiff maple]

The way I imagine it, it would be kind of like woadah

[celest bay]

reminds me of emily blunt talking about her kids (she's english and married an american, John Krasinski)
They both kept trying to get the kids to have their accents lol

emily blunt was annoyed when they came back from england and her daughter changed to waterrr (american way)

[hazy hatch]

adaptation my browsky

[celest bay]

mhm

[hazy hatch]

i swear i can not pronnunce the D as a the T

i just rrrr all the way

[stiff maple]

It's a pity forvo doesn't specify which state the person recording is from

I was gonna check, but it just says united states

[hazy hatch]

forvo?

[celest bay]

ah, yeah

[stiff maple]

Yep

https://forvo.com/word/water/#en

[celest bay]

I can try and do a boston vs non-boston one

[hazy hatch]

a ver

[stiff maple]

Lol, boston vs nonboston

[celest bay]

first one is non-boston

second is boston (ish)

[hazy hatch]

woooooooooooooooooooooootttttttttt

is that australian may i ask

[celest bay]

which one hahaha

both are american

[hazy hatch]

warer............ wora

[celest bay]

I can do a sentence if it helps

[hazy hatch]

a ver

(how to say a ver in english tho ? xd)

[stiff maple]

Let's see = a ver

[celest bay]

🤷

ah

what should I say

[hazy hatch]

i like it better when the water is cold but i have to be careful not to drop it on my computer right right

[celest bay]

right right?

[stiff maple]

Yes be sure to say it twice

[hazy hatch]

i just felt right right sounded ok at the very ending

[celest bay]

oki

[grizzled hedge]

The tapped r sound in Spanish is close to how the t sounds

For an American accent

I think

[hazy hatch]

TrRiIgGeReed

[celest bay]

oh god it's hard to say in a boston accenttt

i like it better when the water's cold, but i gotta be careful not to drop it on my computer. right? right?

I'll say this

[stiff maple]

It's fine to drop it on the computer when it's warm though

[hazy hatch]

HJhahHAHAHA

just needed a way to slip the word computer on there

[celest bay]

lol

the boston one isn't great but you get the r dropping thing

[grizzled hedge]

Man abis so helpful 😯

[hazy hatch]

i'm gonna be real honest

[celest bay]

I like talking about accents 😃

[grizzled hedge]

^

[hazy hatch]

i heard them the same

[grizzled hedge]

Yeah she didn’t over exaggerate the Boston accent

[hazy hatch]

there a slight difference i think but only for natives to notice i think

[celest bay]

Fair enough ahaha

I don't have a "native" boston accent, I just grew up around speakers of it

so apart from a few phrases or words I don't do a great job talking in it

[tranquil canopy]

Abi you are not 100% bostonian? o:

[celest bay]

it's also really hard to try and do calmly

I am but\

okay we're gonna get into some in-depth stuff here for a sec

[tranquil canopy]

is this going in the test?

[celest bay]

I'm from the western suburbs which have a lot of people who moved here from other places. (like my mom did) so lots of people here have a "standard" accent / a general new england accent (meaning you sound like you're from the northeastern US but not specifically boston)

BUT the vocabulary you learn is still boston vocabulary and you still get very exposed to boston accents

Like my grandfather had a very strong boston accent all the time, and my dad has one sometimes (it only appears when he says certain words or when he's annoyed)

People in other suburbs are more likely to be native speakers (it really just depends if your parents have it honestly) and younger generations are less likely to have the really strong accents

so like mark walhburg has a pretty standard accent when he talks, but he can go into a heavy boston accent pretty well because he grew up hearing it, similar to me

[stiff maple]

Is the strong boston accent dying out would you say?

[celest bay]

I'd say it's waning, but not dying entirely

[tranquil canopy]

who can I look up to listen to a real bostonian accent

like an actor or something

[celest bay]

you know how people in the UK have like their regional accent and their standard accent sometimes? It's like that a bit

[stiff maple]

If practically none of the people who grew up around it actually use it, it's gonna disappear

[celest bay]

ah pupper there's a clip I have one sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbK4cL3QSc0&t=1s

[stiff maple]

There's a lot in movies, but I can't remember anything specific

[tranquil canopy]

I only identify the heaviest american accents, like idk southern, but the rest I can't tell or get them mixed

[stiff maple]

And a lot of it is exaggerated

[celest bay]

yeah it's weird in movies sometimes

this guy isn't exaggerating it though

[tranquil canopy]

movies love them stereotypes

I like his accent

[celest bay]

can you guys understand him?

[tranquil canopy]

yeah it's not hard

[celest bay]

cool cool

[tranquil canopy]

I remember hearing this accent in movies

[celest bay]

mm, it gets parodied a lot

my dad's version is like my accent but he says idear instead of idea

things like that

[tranquil canopy]

I like how he says nature

[celest bay]

how's he say it? nachah?

[tranquil canopy]

yeah

[celest bay]

naychah

[stiff maple]

Basically like 80% of it is the omitted Rs

[celest bay]

yeah, omitted r's and something called an intrusive r

like in idear

and career and korea are pronounced the same

both are korea

wait

career is korea and korea is coreer

[tranquil canopy]

I like my korea

[celest bay]

I can't write it oh god lmao

korear

there

[grizzled hedge]

I think of like a Mississippi accent when I hear that

[celest bay]

I'm glad you like your korea pupper

[tranquil canopy]

my crime korea

[grizzled hedge]

Like frank underwood

[celest bay]

oh god lol

my favorite thing was wahlburg got asked to do a boston accent on a talk show. and he just went "it's hard to do without swearing"

[grizzled hedge]

“Now I love my carea, some may believe it’s corrupt.... now, maybe so, but it gives me exactly what I need... power” frank says ominously

[stiff maple]

You reminded me of how "kernel" and "colonel" is pronounced the same

[celest bay]

oh yeah that always messes me up

[grizzled hedge]

Yeah

Weird

[celest bay]

in summary

boston people and even scrubs like me who don't have fulltime accents

talk weird

and I blame the brits

[grizzled hedge]

I blame brits for most things

Stubbed my toe? Damn Brits

[celest bay]

oh also there's an upperclass boston accent that IS dying out

and it sounds british

[tranquil canopy]

always blame them

they are up to something

[grizzled hedge]

Sneaky Brit bois

Wow

That’s crazy abi

[celest bay]

https://youtu.be/HwvONJXJUO4?t=21

the upper class accent

@stiff maple curious what you think of this

[grizzled hedge]

Woah that’s crazy

[stiff maple]

Interesting

It's like a mix of mostly British and some bostonian

[celest bay]

The Mid-Atlantic accent, or Transatlantic accent,[1][2][3] is an accent of English, blending together prestigious American and British English (Received Pronunciation) ways of speaking. Adopted in the early 20th century mostly by American aristocrats and actors, it is not a native vernacular or regional American accent. Instead, according to voice and drama professor Dudley Knight, it is an affected set of speech patterns whose "chief quality was that no Americans actually spoke it unless educated to do so".[4] Primarily fashionable in the 1930s and 1940s,[5] the accent was embraced in private independent preparatory schools, especially by members of the Northeastern upper class, as well as in schools for film and stage acting.[6] The accent's overall use sharply declined following the Second World War.[7]

so yeah it's literally that

it's basically a mid-atlantic accent and it was taught in schools up here

[grizzled hedge]

I wanna be educated to do so

😔

[celest bay]

okay speaking from experience

live in england for like 6 weeks

I accidentally got that accent from doing that

[grizzled hedge]

People would prolly make fun of me though

[stiff maple]

Yeah, now that I read that it was pretty fashionable in the 30s and 40s, it does seem reminiscent of recordings of people talking from back then

[celest bay]

my parents thought it was hilarious (i'd been repressing my american A and R sounds while I was over there) but it went away in like a day or two when I got back

it's the accent people think of in old movies, cause they trained them to talk like that basically

LOL

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-speak-with-a-British-accent-in-Boston

[stiff maple]

It's similar to german in a way

In the standard accent they don't pronounce the Rs after long vowels

Although, if you really think about it, it's not really just about omitting the Rs, but also the vowels end in a sort of silent clenching of the throat instead of the R, I don't know how to explain it

[celest bay]

yeah I know what you mean

[trail hearth]

Vandaag aangekomen ♥

[torn jewel]

I'm late but I tried saying water in my accent / southern as well but I can barely do an imitation accent of my own region https://vocaroo.com/i/s1USVDMZknrd

[celest bay]

people in the south say things so patiently

[torn jewel]

ahahahah I have no idea what that means, yes we are the greatest

[celest bay]

like the stereotype up here is that we talk fast and sound impatient

so the south talks slowly and patiently?

i guess

[torn jewel]

ooo

I can never tell if I've picked up anything southern since to me I sound like TV neutral

but I also have only lived here, so everything else would probably sound normal to me anywyas

some people here talk especially slowly, and I'm never sure if there's something wrong with them or if its just a learned manner of speaking

[celest bay]

I dunno, probably a regional thing.

[lofty harness]

Que onda

[hazy hatch]

Las ondas electromagnéticas

[tranquil canopy]

Un honda civic

[grizzled hedge]

Qué buena honda

🚙

[torn jewel]

I honda d'accord

[tranquil canopy]

esa pileta es onda

https://youtu.be/71YmQDsON0I?t=148

[river ivy]

[midnight nexus]

[vale quarry]

deffo 3 in this christian server

[twilit solar]

it's (2)

[terse cliff]

his mass gets decreased *

[chrome forge]

Tengo el poderío del Dio y animé de mi parte

[tranquil canopy]

tengo el poder de Dios y el animé de mi lado

• 

[river ivy]

dio es un personaje de anime

poderío existe

anime* btw

[chrome forge]

google me traicionó

[tranquil canopy]

pero es un meme

que dice "I have the power of god and anime on my side"

[river ivy]

oh

[grizzled hedge]

Whats the dif

[tranquil canopy]

poderío es otra cosa, Dio =/= Dios...., y de mi parte significa otra cosa (significa que viene de vos mismo, en ese contexto no tendría mucho sentido)

poderío es algo así como el poder que ejerce alguien o una nación sobre otros

no es "poder" así genérico

[grizzled hedge]

Huh til

Thanks 👍

[river ivy]

De mi parte igual lo he visto como de mi lado

[tranquil canopy]

eso no sonaría mejor con "están"?

en vez de "tengo a ... de mi lado"

[river ivy]

Poderío afaik no tiene por qué ser de un gobierno ni nada... pero sí suele asociarse con eso

Hm puede ser

No me doy cuenta

[grizzled hedge]

No sería a mi lado

?

[tranquil canopy]

eso es literalmente, o sea físicamente

[river ivy]

Eso puede ser más literal

[tranquil canopy]

están a tu lado

xd

[grizzled hedge]

Oh huh

[river ivy]

Beside me

[grizzled hedge]

Huh okay

Tiene sentido

[lavish estuary]

@sullen rapids

The Spain dub of this show is amazing

So much slang

[timid haven]

Yo
Yo (余) is yet another rarely used classical way to say “I.” It was used by men of extremely high stature. I’ve really only come across it being employed by “heartless-overlord”-type characters in some anime and manga vaya vaya otro parecido al español

[river ivy]

Nunca lo noté, prestaré más atención

[lavish pendant]

The voices and subtitles don't seem to match up for that show, @lavish estuary.

[tranquil canopy]

crimes?

[arctic niche]

crimes

[tranquil canopy]

[arctic niche]

[dire zephyr]

d

[lucid junco]

@torn jewel

[torn jewel]

I almost miss C++ now

I don't, but I almost do

[torn jewel]

oh, you have a type called Lista_estatica

instead of, like, vectors

[lucid junco]

ye

it's basically a vector

it is

yes

lmao

here's the code

@torn jewel

[torn jewel]

ok sec i'm absorbing it all, its been a while

[lucid junco]

np

[mortal dagger]

standard exeptions //lanza exepciones

[lucid junco]

para los que no hablan inglés

[torn jewel]

yo no hablo ingles

[mortal dagger]

// For non-english speakers

[terse cliff]

yo no hablo código

[lucid junco]

yo no hablo

mi ex no me habla

[terse cliff]

yo hablo demasiado

[lucid junco]

lo sé

cállate por primera vez en tu vida

[terse cliff]

;_;

[mortal dagger]

bueno, me callo

[lucid junco]

no tu no

fénix

[terse cliff]

;_;

[lucid junco]

me lo decía a mí mismo

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-crab-wave-noisestorm-gif-12452993

[terse cliff]

ah sí

[torn jewel]

no te preocupes gatito, te amamos

ok dew, que me esta mostrando en particular

[terse cliff]

aunque sea tonta

gracias

[torn jewel]

o justo querias mostrarme todo

[lucid junco]

los algoritmoa

s

[mortal dagger]

quería mostrarte su tarea completa

[lucid junco]

sí

[torn jewel]

te amamos
gracias
bueno, exacto como mi mama

[lucid junco]

ntc

[mortal dagger]

yo por esas cositas de la vida veía las cátedras del MIT

[lucid junco]

no es mi tarea completa

[mortal dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtSuA80QTyo

ese y el pre-requisito que es amor puro

[torn jewel]

si

[lucid junco]

sui

si

[mortal dagger]

6.042 taugh me love, 6.006 taugh me patience

[torn jewel]

this is starting to sound like an ariana grande song

I'm so ... grateful for my classes

[lucid junco]

me too

break up with your boyfriend i'm bored

[mortal dagger]

its actually an ariana grande song

[torn jewel]

do I have to

[lucid junco]

it is

[torn jewel]

6.999 taught me pain

[mortal dagger]

and a meme

[torn jewel]

oh

memes move fast

[lucid junco]

i have one of thos eboox

boox

[mortal dagger]

¿Cormen?

[lucid junco]

RIP

[mortal dagger]

adobe
Zathura ftw

eso pasa por usar código privativo

[lucid junco]

leo epubs en microsoft edge

[mortal dagger]

yo tengo un Kindle y lo amo más que a mi vida

[torn jewel]

that algorithms book is gold but I never understood the obsession with that classic C programming book, in general I never saw the benefits of books descrbing a language (I also read that C book) versus just using google and stackoverflow and I can't tell if I'm missing something or if the older programmers who HAD to learn that way don't realize how easy it is now to pickup a new language with google and stackoverflow

[lucid junco]

i hate c

c++ is ok

python is god

[torn jewel]

but just because I thought I was missing something, I went through some of those books twice

it would be nice for your first programming language it seems

[lucid junco]

my first was javascript

then python

then c

then c++

[torn jewel]

otherwise, it seems like long winded ways of explaining, say, what functoins are instead of just skipping to the syntax

[lucid junco]

wait c# before Python

[mortal dagger]

C Programming Lang from K&R its all about Unix Philosophy

that's all

[torn jewel]

actually I think it was a different C book I read

a famous one still but

I'll look that one up and see if there's something else special about it

I liked a lot of the books not about programming languages, like The Pragmatic Programmer

[mortal dagger]

i first read "The Art Of Computer Programming" then i started learn C

[arctic niche]

This app is cursed

[gusty ermine]

HAUSGJKDLNMAFJSKÖFÄHJASG

someone's upset that facebook was stolen

[tranquil canopy]

and know he'll steal zucc your data

[arctic niche]

[lavish estuary]

If this doesn't prove my loyalty then I don't know anymore

Viva España!

[tranquil canopy]

you've disproven your loyalty yesterday

[lavish estuary]

Yeah, I'll admit I went too far

[torn jewel]

I want the audio of sweet sweet Chile or Argentina

[lavish estuary]

You won't find them on Netfix lol but there are a lot of fanmade parodies on YT

[torn jewel]

indeed

[tranquil canopy]

other than movies/whatever from here ofc, there is only a handful of animated movies with arg. dubs, doubt there is any for series

[torn jewel]

watches El Secreto de sus Ojos 1000 times

[lavish estuary]

You could join me in watching Casados con Hijos

[tranquil canopy]

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoría:Series_dobladas_al_español_en_Argentina

[lavish estuary]

I've watched three episodes. I've watched the first episode 5 times lol

[torn jewel]

heyyy Phineas and Ferb

supposed to be good, and as a bonus i've never seen it

[lavish estuary]

[torn jewel]

oh and thank you Jaleel hehe

[lavish estuary]

I have to find Phineas and Ferb before I sleep lol

[tranquil canopy]

hmm, but that wikipedia page has to be deceiving, I'm betting most of those are still "neutral"

as they tend to do with any cartoon on tv

[lavish estuary]

Aww :(

Going to bed disappointed

[tranquil canopy]

I know Chicken Little and the incredibles have official arg. dubs

oh and cars

[torn jewel]

oh I can put Incredibles on my list to watch then

[tranquil canopy]

I only remember it felt so weird

to watch an animated movie where people didn't speak "neutral"

[torn jewel]

its been a while since I did a lot of active Spanish practice (I did a little in 2016 or 17 I think where I was reading some books like Ender's game), I'd say 2015 was the last ..big study period, and in that time I was trying to get some Argentinian exposure. At the time all I had to use I think was some vlogs and 1 episode of 1 podcast

[arctic niche]

I only listen to british dubs

[torn jewel]

it was hard though because I don't really like vlogs typically

[arctic niche]

God save the queen~

[tranquil canopy]

the only queen is freddie mercury

[arctic niche]

[torn jewel]

I tried some of those stereotypical youtube shows too (although they were from spaniards) but I was too used to the humor

[tranquil canopy]

I always recommend movies and series, youtube is... eh

it's weird

and not a good representation

especially the hispanic side of youtube

(in general, not only spaniard)

[torn jewel]

I tried some videos of programmers too but meh I couldn't get into it

that's actually been one of the harder things to do for studying the non ... 'popular' accents; finding content

when I looked a little into French, I wanted to learn a flavor of African french

partially because my first French speaking friend was from Africa

but almost everything was not just France-French, but Paris French at that, if I remember

[lavish estuary]

Tbf, Argentina is the right behind Spain in podcasts produced. So at least the country has that going for it

[tranquil canopy]

well French is really differnt from Spanish, Spanish is spoken in a lot of places with tens of millions of people

[torn jewel]

oo

[tranquil canopy]

and there is a shitton of content

[lavish estuary]

True

Sunday I watched a Mock Draft in Spanish

How crazy is that xD

Something so niche

[torn jewel]

hehe I'm ignorant of sports

although I play Fantasy football

[tranquil canopy]

so much stuff gets dubbed

[lavish estuary]

Doesn't matter, it just goes to show

[tranquil canopy]

wtf is wrong with my english today fuck

[torn jewel]

I dunno but on the bright side you immediately correct everything before I can even start typing

so

yesterday I also made the same mistake in Spanish

said mucho instead of muy for some reason

[tranquil canopy]

my hands are on auto

[lavish estuary]

But the moment I realised how big Spanish was when I found a video on someone explaining in which order to read the Batman comics.

That opened up my eyes

[torn jewel]

well, a similar mistake at least

[tranquil canopy]

I'm not really paying attention

Dude it's the 3-4th most spoken language on earth xd

it is big

[lavish estuary]

I know lol, but it still surprised me

I love this language

It's fluency or death, whichever comes first

[tranquil canopy]

why not both

[lavish estuary]

I'd be so lucky

[torn jewel]

as resident weaboo I have to ask what your opinion is on Japanese

[lavish estuary]

Mine?

[torn jewel]

si

[lavish estuary]

I like manga and anime. I know nothing about the language other than it's very difficult xD

Do you speak it?

[torn jewel]

nah, although its my next language (current language? I alternate between working on my computer science and working on my Japanese)

(currently I'm more working on comp sci)

[lavish estuary]

I was gonna learn it but I feel I don't have enough free time to give it the dedication it deserves. Definitely after my degree

Speaking of weird YT content and Japanese...

(gimme a sec)

https://youtu.be/iCQ9xqtUPYU

Enjoy xDD

My record is 40 seconds, I just can't finish the video

[tranquil canopy]

🏃

[lavish estuary]

🏃🏿 voy a por vos

[tranquil canopy]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

🚴

[lavish estuary]

No grites, se acabará rápido

🛩

[tranquil canopy]

🛥 🏃

[lavish estuary]

🚀

[tranquil canopy]

me voy a esconder en mi cuevita

para siempre

[lavish estuary]

a cualquier precio te vamoh a encontrar

[tranquil canopy]

precio? alguien puso una recompensa?

[lavish estuary]

Q-quizás

[tranquil canopy]

quisiste traducir "at any cost"?

🗡

(cueste lo que cueste)

[lavish estuary]

Iba a escribir pase lo que pase pero pensé que esa quedaría mejor jaja

quise traducir ''come hell or high water''

[tranquil canopy]

y ahí con costar se refiere al esfuerzo, precio es muy literal en español xd

$

[lavish estuary]

Entiendo xDD

[tranquil canopy]

dejame en paz

;-;

[lavish estuary]

Te dejo tranqui jaja, sho voy a dormir

[gusty ermine]

que duermas bien

[tranquil canopy]

que descanses

bully

[torn jewel]

that cumbia tho

I think I'm in love with nee chan

oh gnight

[median trail]

@glass dragon profe usted diria que para aprender un tema en mate en necesario saber demostrar las propiedades de dicho tema ?

[glass dragon]

No, para aprenderlo, no. Pero creo que para entenderlo lo suficiente para enseñarlo a otros, sí creo que es necesario @median trail

[median trail]

quiero aprender a demostrar, tiene libros que recomendaria ?

[mortal dagger]

no sé si sirva para aprender de cero, menos sin alguien a quién preguntar y que te vaya viendo

pero a mí me sirvió harto http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=B67298CBE7B0B63977F4845D0258E92B

[median trail]

omg

se ve potente eso jaja

tengo que aprender a moverme con el lenguaje matematico tambien

séalgunas cosas pero no tanto

[mortal dagger]

pero tuviste cálculo

[median trail]

oh eso lo tiene

Lo sé

sé lo suficiente

que debe saber un estudiante de ingenieria

pero me gustaría aprender a representar otras que nunca supe

ah el libro tiene esas cosas

[mortal dagger]

toca hartos temas pero súper superficialmente, es más como de "estilos" que de los temas en sí

[median trail]

ya entiendo, me interesa aprender eso de induccion matematica y la simbologia matematica pero mucho mas a profundidad

y este libro lo tiene

asi que me sirve

[mortal dagger]

inducción tiene una idea súper simple, pruebas que algo es válido para n = 1

después que es válido para n + 1

y con eso concluyes que es cierto para todos los naturales

los pasos formales de la demostración son súper mecánicos

[median trail]

oh ya veo

[mortal dagger]

lo complejo está en demostrar que n + (n+1) es cierto, pero son casi unicamente propiedades algebraicas

[median trail]

bueno, gracias por el libro, probablemente me sirva mucho

iré poco a poco con el

[lucid junco]

@mortal dagger

[midnight nexus]

*The Duolingo owl is coming for me.

I’ve fled my hometown, changed my number and stolen a 2018 Ford Fiesta, but nothing seems to be working. I uninstalled the Duolingo app 5 days ago, but I still get the notifications demanding me to learn Spanish. On the third day, I heard a window downstairs break and found a brick on the floor. There was a note tied to it saying,”Your time is almost up. Learn the fucking mexican words or else”. I don’t have the work ethic to dedicate the effort to learn the language, and just accepted my fate. But the next day, when I found the brakes in my car removed after causing a minor accident at a nearby intersection, I realized that I’m afraid to die. In that very moment, I received another notification saying,“It’s too late for practice now. Speak the Spanish all you want, I will make sure of tu muerte”. I then turned around to see what I swear was a mass of neon green feathers dart behind a tree. I did not sleep that night, and I’m thankful for it. A few hours after I went to bed, the owl appeared in my window, but quickly fled after I drew my firearm from my nightstand. That’s when I decided it was time to leave, and later stole a car parked down my street. But I know that my fate is sealed. Because every second I’m not running, he’s only getting closer. The notifications from the deleted duolingo app have been getting progressively darker and more sinister. The last one didn’t even ask me to practice learning my language. It was just the owl asserting to me that he is God. I know I’ll die soon. I’ve accepted it. Yet I’m still upset that my life has to end because of my inability to learn Spanish.

[lucid junco]

thanks for sharing steve

[hazy hatch]

oh no i just downloaded duolingo yesterday

[gusty ermine]

get to work

[glass dragon]

@median trail wow nunca vi tu mensaje de ayer

No usábamos un libro para ese tema en la escuela

[median trail]

oh no se preocupe, el de fenix esta bueno

[celest bay]

at the mall where they filmed Paul blart mall cop ama

[lucid junco]

Show pix

Of the rainforest cafe

And also the arcade

And parking lot

[celest bay]

It’s gone 😦

Rainforest cafe died

[lucid junco]

Rainforest is gone

🦀🦀🦀

[celest bay]

Ah parking lot I can do later

There’s an arcade what

[lucid junco]

In the movie at least!

[celest bay]

Not irl I think

Want to see food court?

[lucid junco]

Generic American mall food court

[river ivy]

Food court?

[arctic niche]

yeah that is generic alright

[river ivy]

No veo nada en el cel kk

Solo un lugar y gente a lo lejos

[arctic niche]

where the subway though

[stiff maple]

Are the food courts any different in other parts of the world?

[river ivy]

Qué son? Plazas de comida?

[stiff maple]

Sí

Hay mesas en el fondo

Con sillas

[river ivy]

Mesas rodeadas de locales? Si hago zoom (pixelado) sabiendo que es una plaza de comidas... se ve igual que cualquiera de acá

[stiff maple]

Locales, quiere decir, restaurantes?

[celest bay]

A lot of malls look like this in the US because many are owned by the same company

Simon malls or something

[stiff maple]

I feel like malls in general are very typical

[celest bay]

Yeah

[tranquil canopy]

you could tell me that it was a mall somewhere here and if it weren't for the signs in english I would believe you

[celest bay]

God that’s depressing lol

They’re all the same mall

[tranquil canopy]

meet up when

at

The Mall™

[celest bay]

Everyone just video chats from their mall

We edit the footage

And they’ll never know

[lucid junco]

yes

[river ivy]

They look the same here

Idek how else would a mall look lol

[lucid junco]

aquí también se ven iguales

@celest bay

Te mostraré

Y te sorprenderás

[river ivy]

With locales I meant every single place to buy food there

[stiff maple]

Is it common to call them locales instead of restaurantes?

[celest bay]

What’re you showing me dew

[lucid junco]

Food court

@stiff maple ye

Because they’re not restaurants

They just serve food

Whereas in a restaurant you have a place to sit down to eat the food

[stiff maple]

Hmmm, cool

I've never made this distinction

[lucid junco]

We say locales de comida

[river ivy]

Restaurantes sounds like something bigger imo

And with a different type of food

And yeah tables and seats

Whatever u call it

[stiff maple]

Does it exist for places outside of malls? Like maybe you'd call that a stand that serves food or something?

[river ivy]

I'd use it outside the mall for a few things, probably

[lucid junco]

Hm

[river ivy]

Meanwhile inside the mall... I use locales for everything, not only the food ones

[lucid junco]

I can’t think for a specific term for those

Since here in Mexico most food stands you see on the streets are taquerias

taquerías

[river ivy]

Wait what are food stands?

[lucid junco]

I’d say puesto

There

There we go

[river ivy]

Los carritos? XD

[lucid junco]

Puesto de comida

Sí

Took me too long to figure that one out

[stiff maple]

Puede ser un carrito o algo inmóvil

[river ivy]

Bueno, acá son carritos, puestos solo si son muy chicos

[tranquil canopy]

here there are places that can serve burgers, or hotdogs, or just parrillas, wouldn't call them restaurants (in restaurants you have a big place where you can sit and they come offering you the menu, that stuff)

[lucid junco]

Yes

Pupper is right

Always right never inright

[river ivy]

Locales... imo needs a tiny space in a building. idk

[stiff maple]

Yeah they're not called restaurants in English either

They're called food stands

[lucid junco]

Puestos de comida

[stiff maple]

Or specific food stand, as in hot dog stand or anything else

[tranquil canopy]

well here, a parrilla would just be a parrilla... xd (they serve lots of meat stuff, i don't want to say bbq because that's insulting)
then there are pancherías I guess, for panchos (hotdogs), I guess hamburguesería also exists, but I usually just say the name of the place

[river ivy]

Here a parrilla is like a cheap restaurant but with less variety if food

Of*

Meat, pasta, basic things like rice and... idk, potatoes (?)

[tranquil canopy]

example near my area, yeah some places use hamburguesería

there are hundreds more that don't show on the map because they aren't big enough xd

just local stuff

[lucid junco]

Here that’s fonda

Or cocina económica

[stiff maple]

Yeah, see, Spanish allows you to transform a name of food into a name of place that makes it. In English, you'd have to add another word to it, like place or stand, or whatever

[exotic kite]

🆙 | Fabian leveled up!

[tranquil canopy]

yeah, and not only food

zapatería

place that sells shoes, common

[stiff maple]

Well, except we have "pizzeria" for some reason 🤔

[tranquil canopy]

stolen

[stiff maple]

Yep, as we're very good at 😄

I just find it weird that's the only one somebody felt was worth stealing

[celest bay]

The ones we have aren’t really common anymore

Oh wait you need to add shop

Butchers shop, the cobbler, the barbershop (I guess it’s one word?) the bakers shop

[stiff maple]

Yeah, exactly you have to add a word

[lucid junco]

Papa’s wingeria

[tranquil canopy]

sweatshop

[celest bay]

Uh

Theatre

I guess

Or cinema

[tranquil canopy]

haberdashery

(I learned that in a movie)

[celest bay]

Pharmacy

[gusty ermine]

oye-u

[celest bay]

Or uh

The chemists

[stiff maple]

It's not a thing turned into place for thing though abby

[celest bay]

Oh yeah

[arctic niche]

the chemists

[tranquil canopy]

is haberdashery ancient/obsolete or still used somewhere

[arctic niche]

not that word again

[celest bay]

No clue pupper

What tony

[stiff maple]

Or maybe chemist's and pharmacy are 🤔

[arctic niche]

Ban chemist's

[celest bay]

They’re the same

[tranquil canopy]

weird, it's the first translation google gives too

[stiff maple]

It's kinda hard to tell in English what was the original word

[stiff maple]

Wtf is that

[celest bay]

What

[tranquil canopy]

mercería is where they sell stuff for clothes

[arctic niche]

what

[celest bay]

What

[stiff maple]

Stuff?

[arctic niche]

haberdashery

[tranquil canopy]

emm

[stiff maple]

Tailor shop?

[tranquil canopy]

like you know, threads, knitting tools

[arctic niche]

so a tailor?

that is what I think

[stiff maple]

I don't know what that would be called

[tranquil canopy]

but for the shop

not the profession

[stiff maple]

Do tailors also sell stuff?

[tranquil canopy]

there are places specialized in that

[stiff maple]

I donno, fabric shop? Cloth shop?

[arctic niche]

probably

[celest bay]

Oh guys

[stiff maple]

Like usually craft stores I think have most of these things, no?

[arctic niche]

exist in english but don't know what they are called

oh yeah craft store

[celest bay]

He means Joanne’s

[arctic niche]

kind of I guess

[stiff maple]

What's a Joanne's?

[arctic niche]

^

[tranquil canopy]

hmm

not a craft store

[celest bay]

Joanne’s is a craft chain

[lucid junco]

Nursery

[tranquil canopy]

these are only tailoring things

[celest bay]

They sell fabrics and needs and art supplies

[tranquil canopy]

craft shops have more stuff

[celest bay]

Oh what

Okay that’s just a tailor I think

[tranquil canopy]

zoom in the pics

[stiff maple]

So yeah, that's probably the closest thing we have left that's common in the modern world

[tranquil canopy]

yeah it's not very common, but a few can still be found

[celest bay]

Yeah we’d go to a craft store or something or a tailor

Places like that exist but

They’re very uncommon

[stiff maple]

And they're probably named after whoever runs them :P

[celest bay]

Yep

And run by a little old lady or a hipster couple

[tranquil canopy]

I'll stick to haberdashery

so I can sound 19th century

[arctic niche]

btw pupper

[stiff maple]

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/haberdashery+store

It says it's only for men's clothes

[tranquil canopy]

huh what

cambridge has 2 defs.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/es/diccionario/ingles/haberdashery

second one is that one

[stiff maple]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haberdasher

Oh actually it looks like it can have both meanings

[tranquil canopy]

yeah

I didn't mean a clothes' shop specifically

they sell tailoring... things

[gusty ermine]

uwu

[river ivy]

Are those weird there?

[tranquil canopy]

maybe they just didn't see many or any at all irl, they are kinda uncommon here

but still there

by uncommon, I mean you don't find a lot

[river ivy]

Idk. They aren't everywhere here, but they aren't thaaaat hard to find. And I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what a mercería is

[celest bay]

When I google it it shows me hat shops

It looks like there are only 2 actual haberdasheries in my state

[tranquil canopy]

I'm getting many pics that are just like the mercería ones

and some are drawings/paintings set like 2 centuries ago lol

[stiff maple]

Wow, only 2 in the entire state

[tranquil canopy]

the last one lollolol

[stiff maple]

I knew they were rare but didn't expect them to be that rare

[tranquil canopy]

notice that many of those website domains are outside the US

many uk ones

a few za (South Africa I think)

[river ivy]

2 in the entire state? Wow they are indeed less common than here. No one needs them? Wtf

[celest bay]

Getting your clothing tailored isn’t really someone anyone does

[lucid junco]

Hello world

Abi

[celest bay]

And most people don’t sew anything except as a hobby

[lucid junco]

I got a 90 on my Numerical Analysis exam

[river ivy]

Idk what tailored means

[lucid junco]

👀

Be proud of me or meet your maker

[river ivy]

Yeah, and as a hobby how do they do?? Sad

[celest bay]

I am proud of you my dew

[tranquil canopy]

tailored puede ser ajustada o arreglada

[lucid junco]

Gracias

[celest bay]

Tailoring is expensive

[tranquil canopy]

lo que me parece raro, nadie tiene un pantalón caro y viejo que quiere arreglar o ajustar?

[celest bay]

No

[river ivy]

Pero eso sí que no lo hace nadie

[tranquil canopy]

se compran otro

bueno es algo específico

pero a veces pasa

[river ivy]

Pero hacer cosas en su casa... desde crear ropa desde 0 por hobby, o arreglar algo roto...

[celest bay]

It’s expensive and the people who do that only do it for formal things like a wedding suit

[river ivy]

Me parece algo normal

[tranquil canopy]

expensive? wat

[river ivy]

Wat x2

[celest bay]

Idk I need other Americans in here help

@grim lava

[tranquil canopy]

here it's pretty normal to need some pants adjusted or whatever

[celest bay]

Pls help

[tranquil canopy]

and it's not expensive

[celest bay]

If I said I’d gotten my jeans tailored

People would look at me weird

[river ivy]

Same here. Tho idk who does that. I'd ask my mom, not some super professional person lol

[tranquil canopy]

well it's not something that you tend to do with your everyday informal clothes...

or that happens often

[celest bay]

Most people don’t know how to sew

Unless they’re older

[river ivy]

Yo sí, se me caen los pantalones

[tranquil canopy]

and they don't have to be a super profesional

[river ivy]

Pero y esa gente mayor? No hacen cosas propias?

[tranquil canopy]

most of the time it's just a lady in her own house here

if you need that sorted

[river ivy]

Yo pienso pero hasta en la gente joven que hace cosplay xddd hay mucha gente que se hace ropa

O que teje o hace crochet

[celest bay]

Some might do it themselves but it’s considered a hobby I’d say

[river ivy]

O que tiene ropa ya comprada y la personaliza con algo

[celest bay]

We don’t really do that much

[tranquil canopy]

para mí tiene que haber pero no están tan a la vista

o hasta son casas normales como acá

[river ivy]

Que tengan tantas cosas y no tengan algo que me parece tan básico me asusta

[tranquil canopy]

lo que tienen es todo caro

[river ivy]

Gente que arregle ropa a pedido sí se me hace menos común, yo hablo de las mercerías en sí

[celest bay]

@keen sequoia can I steal you? I need another American to weigh in on something

How common is altering your clothes here/taking your clothes to be tailored ?

[tranquil canopy]

I wasn't saying it's something very common, but it still happens

you said it as if no one does it anymore

[river ivy]

Pero yo hablaba de las mercerías

[tranquil canopy]

at all

and yeah, the stores

[celest bay]

What, no. People do it for weddings

But that’s it really

[river ivy]

pero las mercerías

[keen sequoia]

Not as common as it should be?

[celest bay]

Oh sorry tami

[keen sequoia]

It's mostly not done, frankly more common if you're wealthy.

[celest bay]

Also how common are stores that only sell uh
I guess sewing supplies / things you use at home to alter your clothes

[keen sequoia]

Going to a thrift store, buying a suit, and having it tailored, is a great idea nobody exploits.

[celest bay]

This is true lol

[keen sequoia]

Selling solely sewing stuff?

Never seen one

[celest bay]

A haberdashery

[keen sequoia]

If you add knitting and crocheting, there are a few

[tranquil canopy]

not only sewing

[celest bay]

Yeah, it’s mostly hobbiest stuff right?

[tranquil canopy]

tailoring stuff in general

[celest bay]

Hobby

[keen sequoia]

Oh, yeah not common

[keen sequoia]

If we're talking haberdashery

Such a whacky word

But yeah, I can't think of one.

[river ivy]

Yeah it includes knitting and that stuff

[keen sequoia]

They probably exist

[tranquil canopy]

I'm betting it's a more known word outside the US

or they at least have a specific name for it

UK, Australia, South Africa, etc.

nz

[celest bay]

I think tailoring/altering you clothes here makes people think of upper class stuff

[keen sequoia]

^

[celest bay]

It’s not really something regular people consider doing ever

[tranquil canopy]

you are thinking specifically of weddings

[celest bay]

No

[tranquil canopy]

and event stuff

[celest bay]

At all

We don’t alter our clothes

We buy them and wear them

That’s it

[tranquil canopy]

and the place doesn't have to be about altering your clothes, you can just need tailoring stuff

don't you have needles and threads just in case

in your house?

[keen sequoia]

I do, but that's not super common these days

[celest bay]

Not unless someone in your house knows how to sew

[stiff maple]

@river ivy tailoring is hacer ropa a medida I think?

[celest bay]

Like my mom does but that’s the only reason we have it

[tranquil canopy]

no

it doens't mean they make the clothes especifically for you

what I was saying was stuff like just getting a shirt or some pants adjusted for example

[keen sequoia]

I know

[tranquil canopy]

which isn't very common here either

but it still happens

and it's cheap

[stiff maple]

In English it includes that meaning

[keen sequoia]

They are super uncommon, as in I can't think of a single one

[celest bay]

Yeah

[river ivy]

Me deprime esta convo

[tranquil canopy]

oh, if you mean tailoring, the profession, it's sastrería

[keen sequoia]

I just buy clothes and wear them, I know of nobody who gets all or even a few their clothes tailored. gotta save up for the $700 bandaid at the ER

[tranquil canopy]

why is it always white or black

[keen sequoia]

Edited

[tranquil canopy]

nobody gets ALL their clothes tailored lol

[keen sequoia]

Yeah I wrote that quick on the phone

[tranquil canopy]

it's not something common, but it can happen sometime

[keen sequoia]

Never denied that

[tranquil canopy]

we also just buy stuff and wear it here... but once in a while you may need something fixed, or adjusted, who knows

[keen sequoia]

Usually gets sewn up by that one family member who knows how to sew

[grim lava]

@celest bay did u ring?

[river ivy]

O cuando algo se rompe... para disimular xd

[celest bay]

Yes sorry

Its fine

Nothing to see here

Also when my jeans get a tear I just wear them anyway because

Fashion

[tranquil canopy]

it's not all about jeans reee

[celest bay]

I wear only jeans

Which is actually not true

I wear shorts or leggings

[tranquil canopy]

and it's not only sewing a hole ...

[keen sequoia]

Discussing a single article of clothing doesn't necessarily mean she's saying that's all we're talking about, just a specific case that can apply elsewhere

[celest bay]

But if the leggings get a tear I guess I get new leggings

Ye

[tranquil canopy]

I know, but it's not only sewing a little hole either, don't get pedantic

[celest bay]

What else would you do

[tranquil canopy]

adjustments

[celest bay]

What

[tranquil canopy]

especially women tend to do it more often here

[celest bay]

We just... try things on at the store and if they don’t fit we don’t buy them

[tranquil canopy]

sometimes it was something expensive

and old, so you can't just change it for something else

[keen sequoia]

I gotta go do dinner, I came in halfway here so I feel like based on what pupper is saying I missed a significant portion.

Anywho, night

[river ivy]

Sometimes you can't wear it anymore because your weight changed

But you can fix it...

Then wear it again

[keen sequoia]

Dinner sitting.

Yeah I know, like I said not common here honestly.

It should be

But most people just buy new clothes, or if you're me and you've lost weight just keep wearing them anyway

This is my experience at least

[stiff maple]

Yeah, actually getting stuff adjusted would make it look much better on you

[river ivy]

Las mercerías tho hay gente que hace ropa por hobby, o porque quiere cosas originales y personalizadas

[keen sequoia]

It's less wasteful, and looks better, but we don't do it

[river ivy]

Incluso gente que hace muñecos o cosas así!

[keen sequoia]

Most specialty shops, in my area at least, are knitting focused

[stiff maple]

Because clothes in a store are pretty standard, you'd have to be really lucky to get something that fits you well

[keen sequoia]

People I know who knit here tend to get stuff online.

[river ivy]

Omg...

Online you can't... feel it

[keen sequoia]

Can feel it then return it often

[river ivy]

Hay telas que uno neesita tocarlas... o tipos de lana

Es más práctico ir a una tienda y listo que tener que esperar pedidos y devolverlos...

[keen sequoia]

Yes but when the nearest such shop is 2+ hours away (unsure, depends on the person of course)

Less practical

Gotta go guard the stove some more, adiós de nuevo

[river ivy]

A eso me refiero. Que es muy raro que haya tan pocos

[keen sequoia]

If more people did it I'm sure more would spring up, though there are probably more than I know of because I don't go looking. The consumer culture in the US is sorta sickeningly in favor of throwing things away though

[stiff maple]

Not just in the US, most of the world I think

[tranquil canopy]

not if you are on a budget

[river ivy]

Acá no creo que nadie compre artículos de mercería online

No hay mercerías en todas las cuadras pero en casi todos lados hay alguna

[stiff maple]

Well, yeah I guess it depends if it's cheaper to buy something new or to adjust it

[celest bay]

I don’t like being a grown up

I gotta deal with taxes

And healthcare

[sacred harbor]

and work..

[celest bay]

icri

[sacred harbor]

[celest bay]

ahaha

it's I cry

it's an old internet thing

[sacred harbor]

[celest bay]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=i cri

it's older than tumblr though

[sacred harbor]

[celest bay]

also it's a reference to "like this if you cry every time"

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-cri-evrytiem

[sacred harbor]

xD

[glass dragon]

Older than Tumblr? I don't think that's possible

[faint wyvern]

Mmm

[timid haven]

esas madres saben buenas

[lofty harness]

Tamarimdo>pulparindo

Cambia mi mente

[timid haven]

obvio que es mejor que el dulce y sabe mas bueno en agua

[lofty harness]

Tamarindos>Pulparindos

[celest bay]

Join me for this sacred viewing

Of the making of lord of the rings

[fleet moat]

https://www.clarin.com/sociedad/haces-perro-hombre-trasforma-vive-alimenta-mascota_0_Dnl0-Uv4J.html @tranquil canopy

Dejo esto y me voy, boii

[median trail]

@azure moth Entiendo eso, pero el canal no está pensado para lo mismo entonces hemos decidido que mover las correcciones a ese canal es mejor.

[azure moth]

fair enough...

[faint wyvern]

@celest bay I just finished rewatching the making of

[celest bay]

@faint wyvern the best

[tranquil canopy]

@fleet moat

[lavish estuary]

Cuando los furrys se pasan

[tranquil canopy]

bueno, si es feliz y no jode a nadie

hay cosas peores

[lavish estuary]

E verdá

[ocean otter]

Con el polvo que tiene que coger ese traje, va a tener que poner una lavadora cada media hora

[open glacier]

[hazy hatch]

Jajajaja me daría miedo vivir con ese señor la vd

[copper fox]

@keen sequoia