#⚓・contact-staff

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astral jasper
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@little kelp ja ya no puedes usar el glarepeek

crimson owl
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Oh no

frank vector
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can we say bruh in beginner english

low vortex
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if you put "bruh (brother/friend)"

coarse acorn
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that's not really what bruh means

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epic bruh moment

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i would say bruh is more like dude

low vortex
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Sorry

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I guess I don't really understand the slang very well

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What about "hey bruh"? Is that the same as calling somebody "brother" which means "friend"?

coarse acorn
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sure

jaunty spade
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@vapid rune no - not quite. Imagine drinking a LOT OF BEER and trying to say "Hey bro" (as in, a more personal hey dude)

low vortex
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Ah ok good, at least I'm not completely put of touch!

jaunty spade
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drunkin' "bro"/dude.

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:/

safe nova
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Bruh means like “wait what” as in to say “wtf did u just say” ive gathered

coarse acorn
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*drunken @jaunty spade

low vortex
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Hopefully the original poster at least understands the rule though - you can use it as long as you explain it!

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Whatever it means in each context will be up to the speaker to define

jaunty spade
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hehe, it's about as easy to explain as all the usages of "dude"

low vortex
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Then there should be no issue with saying bruh since you'll be able to define it appropriately as per the new rules

jaunty spade
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nods

coarse acorn
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by the way, why is blasphemy against the rules? is this a christian server?

low vortex
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What?

nova karma
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Inappropriate language, whether it be via text, video or an image, that appears in some way to fall under the following categories is prohibited: Blasphemy, sexual content, inappropriate references to sexual preference or offensive comments (such as, but not limited to, racism and ethnic or religious discrimination)

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Blasphemy

coarse acorn
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ah u already put it

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also what is meant by "inappropriate references to sexual preference"?

low vortex
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It's against the rules because it's culturally disrespectful to tell somebody their religion is wrong or to say things purposely against it

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"you like it up the kitty, don't you" or something

coarse acorn
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oh dear

nova karma
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doesn't blasphemy cover more?

coarse acorn
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okay. maybe u coukd reword that bc blasphemy is like. "god isn't real lol"

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"god is a woman"

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could b considered blasphemy

nova karma
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like if you say ¡Hostia! that's technically blasphemy halal

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actually

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saying i don't believe in god is basically blasphemy

coarse acorn
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yeah

marsh valve
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Or just not talk about religion

coarse acorn
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oh dear x2

nova karma
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but

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if everything is off limits anyways

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especially since #💡・serious-topics was originally supposed to be offensive or at least contain offensive ideas if i understand it well

minor condor
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controversial ideas I think

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but it gets pretty uh

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straight up not okay in there sometimes

coarse acorn
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it is not for the weak

reef sparrow
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Sensitive topics isn't a channel where you can just be offensive. It's for talking about topics that people may have strong opinions on, and subjects that people might be sensitive to

nova karma
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yeah

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k

coarse acorn
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right

dry oracle
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One could say it’s for Sensitive topics

nova karma
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but saying that we can't say any type of blasphemy?

dry oracle
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It used to be called #no_filter

minor condor
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yeah. general policy is that for stuff that's not controversial and is just racist/sexist etc it's still not allowed

coarse acorn
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also what do you mean "commercial content."

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maybe rephrase that

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bc it's kind of general

nova karma
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advertising?

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other servers?

coarse acorn
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also a lot of these rules are phrased as recommendations rather than rules

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"consider muting your mic if you have background noise"

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"we recommend avoiding controversial topics"

low vortex
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yes but those actually are just suggestions

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the problem we were running into is that we were defining every minutiae of every possible rule and so the rules were too long and nobody was reading them

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things like "commercial content" might be broad, but would only be unclear in fringe cases, at which point the person can just ask a moderator

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but if we sit and list everything that counts as a commercial enterprise and things that don't, nobody will read it anyway

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or we were running into "well the rules don't say this one highly specific thing that you're telling me I can't do", which, yeah, out of the 100 things listed, this 1 thing wasn't. By having extremely detailed lists of rules and definitions of rules, people assume they're exhaustive instead of following the spirit of the rule

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which for the most part with all of our rules is "treat the people you're talking to like they're actual human beings that you care about"

coarse acorn
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so why does the commercial content rule exist?

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bc im imagining posting like, pictures of or links to advertisements

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which ppl might do and have done in some contexts

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but maybe I'm misunderstanding

reef sparrow
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The most common would probably be

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Selling Spanish lessons 30$/hr

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and things of that nature

coarse acorn
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ohh

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so, don't try to sell people stuff?

reef sparrow
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The point of the server is that if you want, you can pay for the learning you get by teaching others

coarse acorn
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ik

still dirge
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With regards to blasphemy, discussing religion and expressing your beliefs in a civil manner are fine. Purposefully insulting another person's beliefs or culture without any intent to learn or have an actual discussion is what we're trying to avoid

elder light
crimson owl
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Or a new feature awauEyes

velvet gorge
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I had the english native role for a little while, so that may be it

crimson owl
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Is it still doing it?

velvet gorge
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It happened just now

bleak kettle
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Nope, it's because i changed my bot to react a pencil even if you are fluent english

crimson owl
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Ah so it is a feature

velvet gorge
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:O

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Oh ok, that's good to know

elder light
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Ahh okay

bleak kettle
velvet gorge
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@soft inlet .iam fluent english in the bot channel
same for the c1 role

ornate pelican
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when is the next sesion de lectura?

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for spanish

crimson owl
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When someone is willing to host one

ornate pelican
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@crimson owl oh sorry I didn't see I wasn't tagged and was in voice chat 4

crimson owl
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If I'm free this weekend and someone is willing to help I don't mind hosting one for a few hours

ornate pelican
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ok ty

crimson owl
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Np

opaque igloo
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A causa de que el usuario "dew" esta baneado decreto que se remita el ban de N3v3r ya que fue un ban inicuo, así pues, yo DAREX imploro este acto como uno de los usuarios mas antiguos de este servidor, en el que he dedicado horas en ayudar a internautas a solventar sus dudas.
usuarios como @rancid bloom , @sturdy badger pueden corroborar lo mencionado anteriormente

atentamente

DAREX CRISTO REY

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<@&258806166770024449>

young scarab
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Darex, estás en tu derecho de esto pero por favor, no uses el comando de los moderadores para este tipo de cosas.

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Ese comando se usa para cosas urgentes, y tú caso no lo es tanto, así que la próxima vez no lo uses, por favor. Se agradecería

dim turret
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quién es darex

nova karma
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el tío que ha escrito ese mensaje foxconfused

rancid bloom
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old man darex

dim turret
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sí pero preguntaba por otra cosa

velvet gorge
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ni lo había visto antes 🤔

bleak kettle
dim turret
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después somos nosotros los que tenemos el ego grande pikawut

low vortex
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Qué tiene que ver el ban de never con dew?

bleak kettle
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nada

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tampoco entendí eso

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porque lo de dew fue ban

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no fue un unban

little kelp
nova karma
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@velvet gorge llegaste después de mi y ni yo sé quién es ese halal

low vortex
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@opaque igloo dame el número de identificación de never

little kelp
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supongo que dice algo como, "Ya no está el que lo baneó, pues que se lo quiten" GWjianWut

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como que hubiera sido algo personal GWaobloChildPepeShrug

low vortex
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Bueno, todos los bans están hecho de acuerdo entre el equipo

dim turret
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yo decía porque se presentó como si fuera la reina de inglaterra y tiene solo 1000 mensajes en el server

little kelp
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acuerdo *

rancid bloom
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@N3v3r#8716

young scarab
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Resultó que Dew baneó a Never sin razón y ahora que él no está, se puede resolver su baneo

low vortex
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Pero quiero buscar su ID en los logs para ver cuándo pasó el ban

young scarab
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ya que cuando Dew estaba no se podía hablar

velvet gorge
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XD @dim turret real

low vortex
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Su número de ID es algo como 177516581520146432

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No es su nombre

young scarab
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Amaroq, mira arriba

low vortex
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Copiámelo que soy floja jaja

young scarab
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Mira arriba, en el canal 👀

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Te hice ping

low vortex
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Graciaaaad

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Veo que tuvo 6 incidentes reportados por 4 mods antes de ser baneado

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Incluso usar lenguaje homofóbico y subir memes de contenido sexual

little kelp
low vortex
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Por lo que veo yo, el ban no tiene nada que ver con dew

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Entonces sigo sin entender la relación entre lo de dew y el ban de never

opaque igloo
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es muy facil de entender, si fueran ciertas estas cosas que mencionáis, ya lo hubierais baneado vosotros, es cierto que el menciono la palabra "paja" a causa de que alguien escrivio "paga" y otras palabras que no podríais entender ya que el estaba en voice channel y no entendéis el contexto, por esto menciono el ban injusto.

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así pues DEW se aprovecho de tener admin y banearlo, actitud que revela que tipo de persona es, y muestra el porque ya no esta aqui.

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@dim turret fui baneado y mis comentarios se borraron, no me creo nada en especial, pero tampoco creo que sea motivo para que te pongas a llorar

dim turret
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ajá

opaque igloo
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gran respuesta, mejor persona.

astral jasper
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Te acaban de decir que tuvo 6 incidencias con 4 mods no parece algo personal

opaque igloo
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y yo estoy diciendo que si no estas en voice channel, no sabes si esta explicando algo relacionado con el idioma o que esta pasando.

astral jasper
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Las 6 incidencias son en vc?

young scarab
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No creo que todas las incidencias hayan ocurrido por el canal de voz.

little kelp
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|| Y parece que ya sabemos quién es una multicuenta 👀 || blobnervous

young scarab
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Puede que algunas de ellas fueran por texto

opaque igloo
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el "no creo" no me aporta nada

astral jasper
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Supongo que pronto banearan a darex, acaba de admitir multicuenta y que ya fue baneado antes whatthink

opaque igloo
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cuando he admitido multicuenta?

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un regalo para ti

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CRACK

astral jasper
dim turret
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creo que dejaron abierta la puerta del loquero otra vez

opaque igloo
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pensaba que no podian entrar los mayores de 13 años, pero ya vemos que si

little kelp
astral jasper
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Eso parece

young scarab
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Bueno, darex. Puedes quejarte si quieres, estás en tu derecho como dije antes

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pero no pierdas las formas, así no van a hacerte mucho caso la verdad

opaque igloo
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cuando perdi las formas?

young scarab
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¿No lees tus comentarios?

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Algo no tiene que ser directo para que desbordes

opaque igloo
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los leo y los escribo

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y viceversa

astral jasper
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Y los piensas?

young scarab
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Está bien, mantén sólo la calma y ya vendrá un moderador a atenderte

opaque igloo
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ya lo se, no pierdo la calma, y buena respuesta la de amaroq, no me quejo en ningun momento sobre ello

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solo estoy intentando explicarle el motivo

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y solo hacen q responderme gente que ... no se que pretende

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diciendome multicuenta y otras chorradas

young scarab
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Bueno, pues no hagas caso y ya. Espera por un moderador, y si eres amigo de Never pregúntale si tiene alguna prueba o algo que le hayan mandado cuando le mutearon tantas veces

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o le hayan hecho warning de algo, pruebas o algo así

opaque igloo
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no pierde el tiempo en hacer estas cosas aparte de que no se puede, pero solo te digo, pon "porno" en el buscador, pon "paja" en el buscador y encontraras mas de un resultado. parece esto un server de 12 años enserio al llegar a este punto.

young scarab
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Una cosa es hablar de porno y pajas si se trata de un ámbito educativo y otro es hablar de ellos porque quieres incitar a alguien o hacer alguna broma estúpida de ella. Y en cuanto a tu última oración, sí, en este servidor hay incluso niños de doce años

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El servidor no está para que bromees de cosas sexuales, está para aprender cosas de idiomas

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Si quieres hacer ese tipo de bromas, es mejor que te vayas a otro servidor donde se permitan esos comentarios

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Las mismas reglas decían que no se podía hablar de sexo. ¿Cuál es el problema?

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¿Quizás no las leyó? Eso sería su problema, las reglas están para leerlas.

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¿Quizás no las comparte? En ese caso debió haber discutido por aquí el tema y no saltarse las reglas sólo porque su opinión es diferente

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De sexo siempre se puede hablar siempre y cuando sea para educar a la gente. Se puede hablar perfectamente del tema, pero siempre está la típica persona que prefiere hacer bromas de manera indirecta sobre el tema y luego llegan este tipo de quejas

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Quizás no entienda la definición de no se puede hablar de sexo

low vortex
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^^

rancid bloom
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the issues less of what he did(although unintentional from what I remember) more that he was a productive member of the server and caused much less drama than a lot of members here who only ever got mutes. yet he's still banned?

vague smelt
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Mavro was also productive, regrettably he got banned as well

young scarab
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Pienso que no tiene nada que ver. Una persona que es productiva y hace tipos de comentarios racistas o sexuales, por más eficaz y productivo sea

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acabaría baneado

vague smelt
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Lamentablemente

young scarab
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Bueno, pues eso a opinión de cada uno. Prefiero tener a alguien que sepa comportarse y no ayude que alguien que ayude y sea un racista.

low vortex
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If we let productive members break the rules, then it does become a matter of opinion and playing favorites. Yes, we know the rules are strict enough that sometimes otherwise good members get banned, but in my opinion that's better than leaving it up to how a mod feels about you personally

young scarab
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Que "ayude" no equilibra que no acabe en baneo

rancid bloom
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It's more a case that he barely broke the rules

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He didn't understand the context of what he posted

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English learner and all

safe nova
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Big oof

opaque igloo
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e independientemente de esto, hasta cuando sera baneado? entiendo que alguien sea baneado, incluso si no es justo, pero para siempre?

young scarab
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Bueno, ¿creo que eso es obvio? Quiero decir, ¿por qué debería darle una oportunidad a alguien que lleva 6 advertencias y se le ha dicho por activa y pasiva no hagas esto?

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¿Te tengo que hacer un dibujo para que lo entiendas? No veo el punto de lo que querría ver

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6 advertencias es mucho, y más si fueron de contenido sexual como lo que dijiste arriba

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Pienso que fueron demasiado buenos con él

opaque igloo
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pero esque no tiene ningun sentido lo de las normas que has mencionado antes

young scarab
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Pienso que igual que tiene edad para hablar de sexo, debería tenerla para entender las advertencias continuas de un moderador. Si no estaba a favor de ellas, tenía que haberse quejado. Puedes hacerlo, estás en tu derecho pero saltartelas una y otra vez

opaque igloo
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esta foto quita todo el peso

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a las normas

young scarab
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¿En qué?

opaque igloo
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ya que antes ni estaba lo de "sexo"

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y lo pusieron para justificarlo

young scarab
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Yo tengo las reglas de antes. Puedo mostrártelo si quieres

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Arriba en el canal pone "No NSFW"

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Pienso que sabe de sobra qué es eso

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Y si no las leyó, el moderador no puede ir detrás de 10000 usuarios, vamos lee las reglas

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Depende de ti informarte, y siempre se les dio la mano con que

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Si tienes dudas, ven aquí y te respondo si se puede x o y

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Podía haber venido aquí y decir "se puede x" o " se puede y"

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Pero no creo que lo hiciera

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Yo puedo ser el usuario más activo del servidor, el usuario que más ayuda, el usuario que siempre está ahí pero una broma racista o sexual que salga de mi boca acaba en ban igual que otra persona que no hizo ni la cuarta parte de lo que yo hago.

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Y eso debería quedar muy claro

vague smelt
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Bueno, yo no sé nada de lo que pasó con ello, pero si algunas de esas advertencias fueron porque no sabe bien el inglés, y otras por falta de contexto, cuánto advertencias válidas quedan?

No dudo la decisión de los mods, sino que solo doy eso como una posibilidad, para ser justo

young scarab
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Por lo que sé, él sabe inglés

vague smelt
young scarab
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De todas formas, si no sabes inglés

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¿Por qué no te pondrías en contacto con un moderador? Si de verdad quiero decirles que fue una equivocación o no entiendo que me están diciendo

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¿Por qué no iría a hablar con ellos?

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Si hubo 6 advertencias hay algo ahí que está mal

opaque igloo
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pues que ya hablo con el, y sudo

young scarab
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¿Habló con Dew?

opaque igloo
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da igual, yo tengo mucho sueño hoy, y paso de intentar explicar esto, la cosa es que se levantaron bans y este no se levanta, cuando hace meses q lo tiene

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si, hablo con el

young scarab
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Si habló con él y no se quedó satisfecho ya sea porque el moderador decidió sudar o por insatisfacción suya

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¿Por qué no ir por otra vía y preguntarle a otro moderador?

opaque igloo
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ya hablo con jaleel

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da igual

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paso

young scarab
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Está bien

opaque igloo
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q no se puede justificar, y esto esta lleno de haters

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y por cierto, lo de los 12 años no lo decia tal como suena

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me referia edad mental

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de inmadurez

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buenas noches

young scarab
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Bueno, pienso que ni a un niño de doce años ni a uno de treinta y dos le importan tus fetiches, hablando de la inmadurez que tengas. El servidor está para que podamos hablar de cualquier cosa en inglés o español, ya sea de sexo, comida, religión, deportes siempre y cuando no se salten las reglas.
Esto que ha pasado ahora también podía haber ocurrido con los deportes, con la religión o meterse con la gastronomía de otro país pero lo morboso y lo fácil es el sexo. Es mucho más fácil comentar algo relacionado al sexo, la verdad. Este tema no sólo aplica al sexo. El tema no es tabú, quizás lo que hace al tema tabú es ese tipo de comentarios fuera de lugar. Si fueras a hablar igual que lo hablas cuando conversas sobre gastronomía o deportes pienso que no pasaría absolutamente nada.

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Buenas noches a ti también 😄

coarse acorn
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pidió que desbanearan a n3v3r?? LOLOLOL

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mil risas

little kelp
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👀

opaque igloo
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wolf, todo lo toxico cae por si solo en este mundo, y mas la falsedad.

coarse acorn
opaque igloo
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dormire agusto cuando termine el capitulo de la serie 😉

young scarab
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Es lo que pienso de él y siempre lo pensaré. No tengo nada que ocultar

coarse acorn
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por cierto, después de ser baneado llegó a otro servidor diciendo "tiraflechas" y "subnormal" a un moderador

nova karma
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vale, qué cojones

coarse acorn
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omg y wolf también lo considera bien usar palabras racistas así. vaya vaya

young scarab
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Uhm eso fue por privado

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no por el servidor

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Si va a mandar toda la conversación

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No me hagas recordarte que me insultaste por el servidor, eme

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Y justo aquí

coarse acorn
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ah yes it's okay to call people slurs just bc you don't like them, as long as it's in private!

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@young scarab ooooh tell me more

crimson owl
young scarab
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Está bien, si tienes ganas de pelear, pelea sola

coarse acorn
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did i call you a bootlicker? did it make you sad to think about how you love the taste of the mods' dirty boots?

young scarab
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Está bien. ¿Tienes algo más que añadir?

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Si tienes ganas de pelear, vete a otro canal. Y pelea sola

coarse acorn
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yeah i do gimme a sec

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there we go

full quartz
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Hey, guys. Please keep drama out of this channel. I understand we can all get a little excited at times but honestly there a lot of ways to resolve a matter. If you really feel strongly about an issue, DM a mod or use the ;report function. Don't fill this channel with petty arguments.

obsidian lion
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Can we have a channel or instance to upload audios reading something and then be corrected by natives? maybe they can tell us how understandable we are. We used to have one and it was pretty good

low vortex
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yeah, people do post stuff like that fairly frequently... blobhmm

reef sparrow
obsidian lion
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yeah it could be, i just thought it would be more organized to post a text weekly (idk) and then people would post their audios so it doesn't get lost or something

reef sparrow
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Oh an organised thing? That would be nice. I thought you were just talking about a channel where you can upload audio for correction

tawdry zinc
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I'd be crap at it but I like the idea

valid horizon
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I think part of this is, as she said, she's remembering when we did actually have all this, where we'd regularly post texts with a native reading audio of it and non natives would try to read the text and post the recording

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and we'd help / correct their attempts

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and I should have an example around here somewhere because I started doing the audio samples for the english readings

tawdry zinc
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Like a session de lectura but everyone at his own pace?

valid horizon
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yea something like that

obsidian lion
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i don't remember why the channel was removed

young scarab
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Supongo que por falta de participación

valid horizon
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I dunno I think I remember it being pretty active

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its hard to say though

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yea I can't even find the old comments, usually I can find old comments from old channels because they've just been renamed and repurposed into new channels

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but its starting to look like the whole channel is gone and deleted

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as I think about it, I think I remember whoever was running the weekly thing having to stop (it might have been mary)

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(I'm remembering someone else too, but I think I'm remembering them from another similar channel)

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so that might have been part of why it died / was removed

obsidian lion
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i think it died after the user who took care of it left the server

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it wasn't inactive at that time, i was here xd

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yeah, what camaron said

low vortex
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Sesión de lectura is so insanely popular. It might be a good complement to the program

still dirge
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I'm happy to post recordings of me reading English

bleak kettle
heady widget
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👍

gusty ruin
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So why was m muted

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🐸

full quartz
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You can use ;report or dm me

reef sparrow
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I'm also happy to record myself reading in English, so that there is a variety of accents

full quartz
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Great, you can help me find an English text

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Between 80 and 100 words should suffice peepohide

reef sparrow
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Sure thing

crimson owl
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I wouldn't mind too if you need more people/regions

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@full quartz

full quartz
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Thanks, Alex

astral jasper
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are there any resources for slang?

minor condor
low vortex
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There's a website called something "así hablamos" or something...

reef sparrow
crimson owl
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I'll mention it now before I forget. I would like to host another sesión de lectura at least for a few hours unless someone wants to take over after then. I'm shooting for 5 pm EST this Friday (9/13/19). I made a countdown http://a.chronus.eu/18EDDEC. If someone wants to make an announcement closer to then, they can.

full quartz
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Nice, I'll make the announcement tomorrow

rotund chasm
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the music bots just.. died? lol

tawdry zinc
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Was there a funeral?

full quartz
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It's offline

reef sparrow
full quartz
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Nope, you can send it to me

reef sparrow
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Alright

little kelp
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pensé que decías las canción The Funeral , 👁

safe nova
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@full quartz are you supposed to have the aotw to access the channel? Only asking because I don’t have it and I can access and message the channel

full quartz
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Nope, you can dm me your recording and I'll make sure it gets posted

safe nova
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Ah okay

low vortex
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I think @safe nova is saying he can post to the channel, or am I misunderstanding?

safe nova
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Yeah I was lol

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Nvm I cant now

low vortex
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Ok cool

reef sparrow
#

I don't think it makes much sense to have Jaleel be responsible for uploading the Native audios to #🎺・aotw-natives, why not just put a really long slowmode, and let people upload their own recordings?

tawdry zinc
#

Or put like a request system in and it gets approved by someone in here?

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Any mod or whatever

vague smelt
#

Yeah, like it could be done through rai possibly?

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Like the report function

heady widget
#

Yeah, cuz I think he revisa la calidad de los audios before posting them

tawdry zinc
#

Yea

still dirge
#

Like a submission queue and then mods/volunteers approve and post?

tawdry zinc
#

Yea

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Otherwise anyone could post anything in there once the slow timer has run out

astral jasper
#

Like p***n audio

still dirge
#

Pain audio? Yeah, that wouldn't be nice to listen to @astral jasper

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I do agree that it shouldn't fall all onto 1 person though

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A queue system is good in that a group of people can approve whenever they have free time

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Mods/volunteers could run commands in the bot channel

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;audio pending list pending submissions
;audio approve <ID> approve submission with corresponding ID number. Record user ID that approved the submission and post the submission in the audio channel
And for courtesy, evaluators can just say which submission they're about to evaluate. So ppl don't work on the same one

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;audio reject <ID> [optional msg] reject submission with corresponding message (e.g. "not clear enough audio")

rancid bloom
#

I like the idea but it'd take a while to get set up no?

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before then would just be easier to have more mods do it that just jaleel

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or volunteers

still dirge
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In the meantime we could always have a group of ppl to send submissions to, or at least a submissions channel

rancid bloom
#

I do like the bot idea tho

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^^

still dirge
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The good thing is we already have something going without a bot

frosty pebble
#

What are the voice chat channels for?

low vortex
#

For talking to others with a microphone

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Ryry is pretty fast about coding things into Rai once he knows what we want

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I agree though that we need a better system or jaleel will get overworked

tawdry zinc
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Poor chap

rancid bloom
#

#freejaleel

gusty ruin
#

Do you guys need an uruguayan recording?

vague smelt
#

Of course

gusty ruin
#

Because you set pupper's audio as Rioplatense :s

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So maybe it's too similar

low vortex
#

All accents matter

gusty ruin
#

aight

young scarab
#

Es bastante confuso saber qué es un audio y qué es una pregunta

low vortex
#

De acuerdo

crimson owl
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I think it should be changed too

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but you can also see what channel the question was posted in

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so telling the two apart for now shouldn't be super difficult

young scarab
#

Hmm.

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O algo así:

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_ _

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Aunque sería cambiar la estética y no se vería la pregunta

dreamy folio
#

Splitting them is easy, we just have to configure a second questions channel

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We can hide it

jaunty breach
#

No sé si alguien lo habrá dicho pero bueno, una sugerencia para #🎺・aotw-natives, que las historias en español tengan más palabras como bombi___llas___ ya que hay algunos que practican el acento argentino/uruguayo y les serviría(quizás sea una sugerencia tonta pero bueno peepohide)

dreamy folio
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Or we can sort it more clearly by channel like you said

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Either way I'm out of town right now so I can't code things

full quartz
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@jaunty breach Sí, también he pensado en eso. Buena sugerencia

jaunty breach
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Oh ok :D

low vortex
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No, it wasn't because of your name

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Though we appreciate the change

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Do you know what it was?

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you don't want to know?

jaunty breach
#

Who are you talking to?thonk

velvet gorge
#

he left I guess xd

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but there was a guy whom she was talking to

jaunty breach
#

Oh xd

obsidian lion
#

a banned person

velvet gorge
#

Oh he got banned? oof

low vortex
#

Oh I banned him lol

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I forgot it deleted recent posts

velvet gorge
#

can I ask why? Last time I was here he'd only gotten a warning an it seemed like everything was ok, so I'm kind of surprised

safe nova
#

Who got banned?

dim turret
#

a guy asking if he got warned because of a word in his name

low vortex
#

He made one egregiously racist comment and was muted, and immediately after being unmuted he made an egregiously sexist comment, so we concluded he was a troll

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Oh he wasn't banned for his name

velvet gorge
#

oof. yeah ok

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dang

dim turret
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I assummed he said some other things before you banned him lol seemed like a troll from the beginning

safe nova
#

Oh right

dreamy folio
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(Although his name was also trolly)

novel axle
#

:Report:

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How do I... do it?

safe nova
#

@novel axle write ;report

novel axle
#

Nice!

crimson owl
tawdry zinc
#

Jaleel was going to

crimson owl
#

He said he would yesterday but nothing happened

tawdry zinc
#

he is African.. they take their time

restive goblet
crimson owl
still dirge
minor condor
rare saffron
dim turret
low vortex
#

Sorry for my shitty announcement but there it is

coarse acorn
#

is there not a pingable @sesion de lectura role anymore?

tawdry zinc
#

There should be

coarse acorn
#

oh

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thats crazy lol

restive goblet
#

Shouldn't it be in 8 hours ?

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Since Alex said it an hour ago

coarse acorn
#

normally the announcements have a ping and the time it'll be hosted

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oh wow

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looks like the previous announcement didn't have a ping either

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what is this world coming to? screech

minor condor
#

Unacceptable angryYell

low vortex
#

There

minor condor
#

I am placated

coarse acorn
#

whatthink seal ok

crimson owl
#

Thanks KotoriHeart @low vortex

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I guess I could've pinged the role tbh

crimson owl
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<@&258806166770024449> sorry for the ping, but I'm planning on starting the #📚・lectura-text-1 in 10 minutes. Could someone open up the chat(s)?

low vortex
#

Somebody did it, right?

crimson owl
#

Yes

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It's been opened and closed @low vortex

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Thanks

low vortex
#

Ok cool

dim turret
dreamy folio
#

hm

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you should be allowed to vote on reactions we put

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but be unable to add your own reactions

dim turret
#

yes, I click them but the screen shakes and it goes away

dreamy folio
#

lol wut

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it's a problem with you, lots of other people voted 😦

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try now @dim turret

dim turret
#

nope, the same

dreamy folio
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try adding a new reaction

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one completely different from the numbers

dim turret
#

nope

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only thing I can think of is...

nova karma
#

when i tried to react to carnifex, the screen shaked, i assumed it was because he blocked me 👀

dim turret
#

yeah..

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for whatever reason 🤷

dreamy folio
#

oh

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awkward lol

dim turret
#

even if we talk

bold bay
#

i can add my own reaction on it thonk

nova karma
#

can't add own reactions anymore halal

quasi oracle
#

I can still react to my own comments

flat chasmBOT
quasi oracle
#

Oh wait maybe I misread

dim turret
#

yes.. xd

quasi oracle
#

Ignórenme

low vortex
#

I'm sorry pupper, sometimes I block people if I'm having trouble reading a conversation and they're having a second conversation. It looks like twice now I've forgotten to unblock you. I Just get into a habit of clicking the "show post" on 50% of the posts I read and completely forget to unblock them since I talk to them all the time 😦

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I went through and unblocked everybody I had forgotten about blobnotlikeblob

dim turret
#

it's ok

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I didn't want to assume that first because I couldn't remember having any issue between us blobsweats

low vortex
#

there was none, I am just forgetful blobnotlikeblob

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I just have a lot of trouble when it's multiple conversations so I often block a swath of people who are having a conversation I'm not involved with

dreamy folio
#

huh that's actually an interesting strategy

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I might start doing it lol

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It would be helpful in conversations with lots of people

low vortex
dim turret
#

tanto les cuesta distinguir las convos blobthink

astral jasper
#

para alguien no nativo quiza si

valid horizon
#

where are these banners coming from? We gotta designer up in here?

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also, so I can sort of picture what this is going to look like, where does the banner go? Is it that thing I see right now dimly in the background of 'Spanish-English Learn... ' in the top left corner?

velvet gorge
#

Yeah that's it

valid horizon
#

oh I see, when I scroll up I see it better

low vortex
#

People submitted them

glossy hatch
#

is "lo pillo" slang? 👀

jaunty breach
#

Lo es

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Creo que te confundiste de canal @glossy hatch

low vortex
jaunty breach
#

Oh yep xd

rose canyon
#

seems like a troll

frank vector
#

i mean it is advanced chat

jaunty breach
#

¿Se pueden decir distintos tipos de si y yes en los canales principiantes?

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Me refiero a sip, yep, y palabras así

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¿O hace falta explicarlo cuando lo dices?

low vortex
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Creo que debes explicarlas porque "sip" me confundió muchísimo las primeras par de veces que la vi jaja

jaunty breach
#

:( ok xd

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Gracias

coarse acorn
#

rai deleted one of my messages in sensitive topics. is that channel no longer exempt from hardcore mode?

rancid bloom
#

rai grows ever stronger

valid horizon
#

soon not even shaggy will stand a chance

dreamy folio
#

I don't think it ever was exempt from hardcore mode

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I think actually it was that Rai didn't have permission to view the channel

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And I added that for a completely different reason a few days ago

astral jasper
rancid bloom
#

howdy

bleak kettle
low vortex
#

At the end of September we're going to have another emoji vote

quasi oracle
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Deberíamos tener un lugar donde podamos añadir nuestros libros/películas/músicas/canales de youtube favoritos y dividirlos en cuanto a nivel (principiante/intermedio/avanzado)
y también por género. Algunas veces encuentro algo que quiero compartir con los otros estudiantes de español o encuentro algún canal en inglés que puede ayudar a alguien y no sé
donde ponerlo. No sé si sería mejor un canal o quizá sólo un documento que se puede actualizar por todos (Google doc o algo así). Si ya hay algo parecido avísame xD

low vortex
#

Buena idea...

bold bay
#

i second that

young scarab
#

Si algún día volvéis a hacer otra votación de banners, si queréis meted a este también

bleak kettle
#

me gusta más el otro sad_panda pero bueno tu petición será cumplida

young scarab
#

Puedo hacer este igual con las palabras: bondi, parce, lol, wtf .. a ver cómo queda también

bleak kettle
#

Es que en este siento que lo de Spanish English en esta imagen cuesta más de ver

young scarab
#

¿Podrías probarlo?

bleak kettle
#

Sí, seguro

young scarab
#

Gracias ^

bleak kettle
#

Ahora que lo veo no se ve mal

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se ve fancy y elegante

young scarab
#

Detesto la calidad que le pone

bleak kettle
#

este es como más elegante y el otro está como más vivo (?

young scarab
#

Y sí, la letra ni se ve

low vortex
crimson owl
#

I like this one more than the ones up for voting

#

Time to restart voting again FeelsSadMan

obsidian lion
#

hum hum, i have to say that almost all banners are more like a worldwide language exchange server than a specific spanish-english, which is what we are. But i understand theres people from other countries interested

valid horizon
#

I agree that they look more like a worldwide exchange, (and I likewise understand that we have people from all over the world, exchanging spanish and english, and I don't know if I prefer a worldwide themed banner or not. I'm mostly apathetic)

still dirge
#

maybe the message is "we accept everyone regardless of race, country of origin, etc. we're all here to learn spanish and english and to have fun"

bold bay
coarse acorn
#

i agree with alpaca

obsidian lion
#

i think its a little bit confusing since speaking another languages in the server is not allowed

astral jasper
#

Hi, how to unassign mistakenly assigned roles?

low vortex
#

;iamnot role

lime falconBOT
#

Amaroq#3421 No role found

astral jasper
#

muchas gracias

gilded vapor
crimson owl
#

what?

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puedes?

gilded vapor
crimson owl
#

oh lmao

gilded vapor
#

Hay una rueda que dice editar canal

crimson owl
#

los mods probablemente deberían arreglar eso.... monkaMega

velvet gorge
#

oye sí thonk

crimson owl
bleak kettle
#

arreglado

crimson owl
gilded vapor
#

@bleak kettle Gracias

crimson owl
#

@jaunty breach te doy una galleta virtual

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🍪

velvet gorge
#

hey @bleak kettle I think there may be a problem with the bot? the !> command isn't triggering it

#

I just thought I should say it

bleak kettle
#

Apparently my bot is off 😄

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when i arrive at home i'll turn it on

still dirge
#

It's sleeping

bleak kettle
#

Okay done, it's working right now

vapid scaffold
#

hola, dónde puedo obtener diferentes roles?

velvet gorge
rare hedge
#

o .iam

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@vapid scaffold cuales roles quieres

vapid scaffold
#

C1 Role por favor.

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En Espanol.

minor condor
#

@vapid scaffold

vapid scaffold
#

I just did

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I meant to say nevermind. But thanks.

velvet gorge
#

thonk What language are you C1 fluent in?

vapid scaffold
#

Spanish, but also French.

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What do you think of my spanish?

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Idk.

young scarab
haughty ember
#

Are there any channels about Memes? That'd be a good idea <@&258806166770024449>

rare hedge
#

please dont ping mods if it aint urgent

young scarab
#

@haughty ember

haughty ember
#

@rare hedge Okey, sorry and thanks

astral jasper
#

In some cases Mods are needed in voice channels and also Mods for certain moments like at night (for the U.S.)

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But right now voice channels in some moments reach a chaotic behavior, there is still control or common sense from some people, but some others....well...

tawdry zinc
#

Zonclov, estás pidiendo tener más moderadores en los canales de voz o estás diciendo que a menudo está bien sin un moderador ahí?

young scarab
#

Tengo entendido que quiere que haya moderadores en los canales de voz

low vortex
#

The large channels will become chaotic just by nature. Do you see this happening in the smaller channels, too?

astral jasper
#

y e s

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in some cases

low vortex
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If that happens, feel free to use the ;report function. It's anonymous and it deletes it from the chat so nobody else has to know it was you

odd wagon
#

I cant enter in any spanish vc

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Why?

crimson owl
#

It could've been full at the time

#

some of them have member limits'

dire elbow
#

Can I participate in the weekly voice recording?

crimson owl
#

yes

#

anyone can

rare hedge
#

what type of server is it? @vapid scaffold

frank vector
#

no se puede

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no creo que se permita

bleak kettle
#

permita is fine

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you can not advertise any other servers here

haughty goblet
#

Please don't tag the mods twice for something like that...

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Patience is a virtue

dusty stump
#

Por qué se me ha dado un warn?

velvet gorge
#

eh, por qué crees?

dusty stump
#

O sea, pero dónde

#

Ah, no pensé que eso tuviera nada de ofensivo o inapropiado

#

Pero bueno

#

Ok

low vortex
#

👍

little kelp
#

👀

lime falconBOT
#

User not found

#

You shouldn't type the report into the channel. Just type ;report and a menu will help you.

olive crescent
#

Hello
I'm wondering what does AFK channel mean and what is it for?
Thanks for enlightening me 👍

olive crescent
#

@haughty goblet

haughty goblet
#

Please don't ping people randomly @olive crescent

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We will answer your qeustions at our own time, please be patient when you don't get an answer right away especially if it's not urgent

vapid scaffold
#

He was just trying to have an answer :/

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Or she idk

haughty goblet
#

Yes but it's not urgent so there's no need to ping the mods

olive crescent
#

😳

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But how can I call a mod if I don't ping?

vapid scaffold
#

Exactly

#

That is also my question.

olive crescent
#

It is confusing

vapid scaffold
#

Very...

olive crescent
#

@vapid scaffold thanks for your support

vapid scaffold
#

No problem.

haughty goblet
#

There's no problems calling mods... If it's urgent eg. Someone is spamming, posting things that are not allowed etc.

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Pinging mods for something that can wait till we see it on our time is not a good reason

vapid scaffold
#

Aren’t you a mod?

#

I’m more confused 😐

flat chasmBOT
haughty goblet
#

Yes I am...

minor condor
#

writing in this channel is already calling a mod

#

you're not supposed to write in here unless you need a mod to see it

haughty goblet
#

Thanks Abby but I got this let's not clog up this channel 😁

olive crescent
#

Ok I get it now
Sorry for disturbing for something that is not considered as important...
But I'm wondering now something else...How comes you take time to explain all this and no answer a simple question....I'm so confused 😳

vapid scaffold
#

Me too?

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Why can’t you answer the question if you are a mod?

haughty goblet
#

Because yall need to know the rules

vapid scaffold
#

Sorry for disturbing also.

haughty goblet
#

People get automatically put into AFK if they aren't active for a certain amount of time

vapid scaffold
#

Ok, you could have answered that question before. Instead of all of this happening. That is your responsibility as a mod. Instead of talking about other things that do not directly respond to the user’s question.

olive crescent
#

Sorry again for my questions, I'm a newcomer...

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Thank you for your answer
Next time I won't ping in here and wait for your answer

#

😬

flat chasmBOT
olive crescent
#

A last thing...Still confused by the way newcomers are welcome... 😕

full quartz
#

@olive crescent Sorry about that. I think the rules/purpose of this channel aren't stated very clearly. We'll definitely do something about it

restive goblet
tawdry zinc
odd escarp
reef sparrow
#

It works for me

#

Are you sure it's not something on your end?

odd escarp
#

I know it works for other people

reef sparrow
#

It's not in the question log

odd escarp
#

I think if you add ;q in edit mode it's not being picked up by the bot

quasi oracle
#

I dont think the bot will detect an edit, if you want to add a question retroactively, you can copy the message id and do:
;q id

odd escarp
#

How do you get message id?

reef sparrow
#

Right click the message > copy ID. You need to have developer mode turned on

dreamy folio
#

Maybe you have embed display disabled

#

Check in your discord settings under text and images

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Oh you edited it

#

Sorry lol

#

Yeah that's the problem

odd escarp
#

but there's another problem. ;q list doesn't show all the questions

tawdry zinc
#

how so

eager sentinel
#

I have an idea for a new channel that I think would be beneficial and fun for a lot of people.

low vortex
#

What is your idea?

low vortex
#

@eager sentinel

eager sentinel
#

I think it would be cool to have role-playing chatrooms for both English and Español where people can role-play anything they want. And the people can pretend to be at the store and talking to the cashier, or they’re in front of the judge trying to plead their case that they’re innocent of the crime, or just whatever. But it would be something different, besides the typical “what are you doing, how long have you been learning” it would be a good way to practice your target language in more of a “real-world” scenario.

bleak kettle
#

Oh, finally I can be a cat aww

low vortex
#

Since puzzle can't do topic of the week anymore, we could do a role-play of the week channel

eager sentinel
#

Yeah that would be cool. I think that would definitely help a lot of people develop real world language skills.

#

And françois can finally be a cat.

#

I think it would be best as a voice chat room

tawdry zinc
#

I like that idea

low vortex
#

Is anybody willing to take responsibility for it? The mod team is a bit small to try to take on another weekly responsibility

eager sentinel
#

Depending on what it would entail, I would be more than happy to be responsible for it.

young scarab
#

Creo que si fuera por texto, estaría bien

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Por voz podría ser un caos

#

10 personas intentando rolear a la vez, suena bastante caótico

velvet gorge
#

Would a voice chat-room really be a good idea though?
I agree with Wolf. It'd be way easier to keep it organized. Plus, roleplaying styles can vary a lot. Imagine someone who prefers lengthy descriptions trying to roleplay

young scarab
#

Es bastante difícil mantener los turnos. Imagínate que alguien quiere decir algo, pero tendría que esperar a que le toque, y pues no sé

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Si es entre dos personas, lo entendería pero con más de 3 es imposible

eager sentinel
#

Well yeah it would be a lot easier to manage a text chat room but I think that takes away the whole point of it, which is having to think quick as if it were a real world conversation.

low vortex
#

ohhh

vague smelt
#

Maybe it could be both?

young scarab
#

Podrías intentarlo por voz, pero no sé. Normalmente una sesión de lectura toma muchísimo tiempo por persona. No me imagino rolear con 20 personas

#

tema turnos, corregir, no sé

eager sentinel
#

I was originally thinking more of like one or two dedicated voice chat rooms that have a limit of 3 people, and the people in the chat room can decide what they want to talk about between themselves. But that way, you know that everyone in the chat room is willing to be silly and role-play. Whereas if you go into a regular voice chat and ask if people want to role play it might get a little awkward if they don’t want to..

tawdry zinc
#

I think you can already do this in a voice chat if you'd want to, no?

#

You can create your own voice rooms already

vague smelt
#

Themed voice chats don't tend to work out that well (see the debate channel, it's almost always empty)

eager sentinel
#

Ohh I was not aware that you could make your own chat rooms, that’s perfect actually

#

Okay problem solved! Thank you everyone

tawdry zinc
#

👀

low vortex
#

yay!

bleak kettle
#

can I still be a cat

dim turret
#

yes

tawdry zinc
#

You will have to change your profile picture, @bleak kettle

bleak kettle
#

why

tawdry zinc
#

Because you want to be a cat..

#

Everybody wants to be a cat 🎶

bleak kettle
#

puedes mandarlos usando ;report porfa? es que así los tenemos todos en el mismo lado ^^

#

así nos aseguramos que tu submission no se olvide

#

@soft inlet

soft inlet
#

I can't click that D:

bleak kettle
#

es un comando ^^

soft inlet
#

I see xD

#

Like that?

bleak kettle
#

type ;report and follow the instructions that were sent to your private messages blobheart

astral jasper
young scarab
#

Han puesto un anuncio de que van a sustituir los menos usados por algunos que vosotros mandéis

#

Así que podéis aprovecharlo

low vortex
#

please use ;report. That way all the emojis are together when I go to collect them for the vote

#

if I have to go into a hundred different channels (or even just two different channels) I will probably not get them all

#

by having them all collected in ;report (which rarely gets used) then it will be more likely that I won't forget an emoji

#

@soft inlet @astral jasper

soft inlet
restive goblet
#

Can we make it so that every post that gets over 10 stars gets pinned in #⭐・starboard? Basically a hall of fame

low vortex
#

good question

#

I wonder if R. Danny includes that feature or if Ryry would have to put it into Rai

slate wraith
#

oh

tawdry zinc
#

What happened to the Spanish exercises? There haven't been any for a month. wolfScared sad_panda

full quartz
#

I really haven't had time to sit down and create them, Nil. But I hope to come next

full quartz
#

week

tawdry zinc
eager sentinel
#

Which mod is online?

full quartz
#

Anything I can help with?

glossy hatch
#

If I give myself dark green would you ban me?

young scarab
#

No creo, pero si cometes errores demasiado básicos

#

Te pedirán que por favor te lo quites

glossy hatch
#

Claro

young scarab
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Si estás seguro, hazlo. Nadie te dirá nada malo

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Pero piensa que si son errores básicos, mejor no

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Además, más o menos serías alguien de confianza a quien leer cuando hablas por los canales

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Pero no, nadie te va a expulsar por eso

low vortex
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si, eso es lo importante. te vuelves role model para los demas con el "fluent"

dusty stump
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Ama, yo tengo una duda

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Qué determina qué rol aparece en tu nombre? Por ejemplo, Mari tiene Spanish native y Fluent english, qué determina que tenga su nombre verde?

tawdry zinc
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Los mods

dim turret
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no

dusty stump
dim turret
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el orden de los roles en la lista

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los que estén más arriba

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tienen prioridad en lo que se muestra

tawdry zinc
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Pues.. y quién los pone estos ahí..

dim turret
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los roles de nativo

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tienen prioridad sobre los de fluent

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entonces se muestra esos primero

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y los de fluent tienen prioridad sobre los other native

crimson owl
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it's the order of the roles that the mods set up

dim turret
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nil pls xd no te hagas

crimson owl
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it's why the Nitro Booster role is above the language roles, for example

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the highest role that you have in the list is the color that shows

tawdry zinc
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The real question here is.. why aren't we all pink

crimson owl
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boost the server

low vortex
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What pupper said is correct, @dusty stump

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The order of the roles are Spanish native, English native, Spanish fluent, English fluent, other native

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The reason is because somebody who is a native has a certain perspective that somebody who is simply fluent does not. A native has an "ear" for what sounds natural to an extent that most fluent people don't

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And Spanish is put above English because there are fewer Spanish speakers here

dusty stump
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Thanks for the explanation wolfCheer

tawdry zinc
tired mist
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hi, do you have a Commands channel where i can execute the special roles commands or i can post it in any channel?, i'm new so i don't want to post it in the wrong place.

velvet gorge
tired mist
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thanks for the help

dawn river
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Please moderate instead of putting silly emojis in response to people being toxic

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Thanks

low vortex
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Ah, was this not an inside joke?

dawn river
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No, i don't know where that came from.

low vortex
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I see you guys talk a lot and assumed it was some type of joke. If this sort of thing happens again with any user at all, please don't hesitate to use ;report to get it dealt with immediately

dawn river
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the least you can do was to tell him to calm down

low vortex
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Thanks for letting me know that it wasn't a joke

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I'll take care of it now that I understand the situation more accurately

formal flicker
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Am I allowed to post a song with a cuss word in the title?

low vortex
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Yeah, just nothing racist or anything. We don't have any type of rules against cussing per se

dusty stump
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Es aquí donde puedo pedir emojis?

crimson owl
dusty stump
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Ty

crimson owl
low vortex
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I'm doing the poll tomorrow

wary sparrow
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are the advanced channels for fluent formal speech type stuff or is it for fluent but casual?

dim turret
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anything fluent, full of slang and expressions

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which is avoided in the beginner channels

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but anything really, as long as it's that language

wary sparrow
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coolio

restive goblet
sage glen
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Ok, thanks

opal jacinth
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.listquotes

young scarab
opal jacinth
elder light
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It's a channel where you put commands like that

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Please use that channel and not this one

opal jacinth
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Ale

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Sure thing ace

still dirge
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Por qué es nativo de inglés tatsumaki? Debería ser "other native" ya que es japonesa

low vortex
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They're color coded.

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Blue is generic helper bots

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Green is dictionary bots

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Orange is music bots

velvet gorge
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Oh I never noticed that

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noice

still dirge
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Oh ok gracias

astral jasper
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Hi ^^

young scarab
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Do you need any help, @astral jasper? 🤗

edgy cove
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Hey!!

young scarab
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👀'

edgy cove
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Los ojos... Yo se los ojos...

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Ok so, can I use #👫・language-exchange to find a "pen pal"? Someone to exchange mail with, maybe physically share our cultures instead of just verbally/through text?

crimson owl
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I guess you can specify that that's what you're looking for in your message

edgy cove
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Ok. I want to check with mods n all to make sure this is okay

bleak kettle
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Yes, it's okay pixie

tawdry zinc
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Ed seems interested

bleak kettle
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I am actually

tawdry zinc
coarse acorn
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what did sam get muted for hshjff

rare hedge
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Don't take my word for it but I believe for toxic comment(s). Wait for the other mods to confirm or say otherwise.

low vortex
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Or just ask him. Rai should have sent him the message with the reason

coarse acorn
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yes but i wanted to know what exactly he said

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he already showed me the mute notif

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i just wanted to know what comment or comments exactly he got muted for

rare hedge
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I already see one when I search his nick via normal discord means.

coarse acorn
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ah

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i don't know what you're talking about

odd forge
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So the rules phrasing seems, to me, to be unclear on if they're saying you can't be homophobic or if just talking about anything regarding gays is allowed. So could I get a bit more clarity on that?

rare hedge
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It seems to be a sensitive topic. As long as you respect each other and have a constructive debate, then it's fine in #💡・serious-topics

young scarab
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Puedes hablar de cualquier cosa siempre y cuando respetes a los demás

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Si quieres hablar de homosexualidad, habla pero respeta

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Si quieres hablar de sexo, habla pero cuidado el lenguaje

rare hedge
odd forge
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Okay. I'm gay and so should I be expected to closet myself for normal discussions?

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Like I've been in a relationship with a woman for 7 years. It's a huge part of my life. It's not like it wouldn't come up.

tawdry zinc
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Ace, we have talked about topics like this in our channels in the past. They are fine as long as you are being respectful towards one another.

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We have several people on this server who would identify as gay, lesbian,...

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There is no problem with this

young scarab
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You can talk about anything you want. Homosexuality, heterosexuality, football, food, whatever. They just ask you to respect each other, that's all. It's true that there are some topics like religion, politics and so on that are quite 'sensitive', so it's better to keep them on #💡・serious-topics. But you can still talk about them freely, only they are usually spoken about there because they tend to go out of our hands
If you want to talk about your homosexuality on any other channel, do it freely. They only ask for respect
@odd forge

odd forge
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Okay cool. Thanks for the clarification, I appreciate it. I personally found the phrasing a bit unclear so I got defensive as homophobia is not uncommon.

young scarab
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I wish people would talk about homosexuality, religion, ... the same way they would talk about food, but that's not always the case. That's why they try to include these topics in one channel

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If you think some parts of the rules aren't clear, let us know. Don't hesitate to do so @odd forge

rare hedge
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Yeah, at first I just interpreted your very first concern as someone just randomly saying "I am homophobic; everyone should be like me. Everyone else can go screw off", to which I would definitely not allow.

odd forge
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Yeah I was more asking if the rule was saying "Don't be homophobic" or "Don't talk about being gay"

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It seems to be more "Don't have "Gay Rights" arguments on main"

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Unless I'm misinterpreting?

young scarab
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Could you tell us what part of the rules confuses you? Maybe it's not conveying what they wanted to write

odd forge
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"Inappropate references to sexual preference"
Could be interpreted as (when you're an anxious gay and have to occasionally read into these things for safety):
"References to certain sexual preferences can be deemed inappropriate"
Because although being gay isn't a preference, a lot of those who take offense view it as a choice.

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I get what it's saying now, thanks to your helpful answers, but I lived in the American South for 9 years and just take some extra caution.

tawdry zinc
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Being gay or lesbian is indeed not a choice.
I believe with this rule, we want to stop people from posting unnecessary details of their sexual preferences such as fetishes, fantasies,...

odd forge
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I think a better way to clarify that is just "inappropriate references to sex"

tawdry zinc
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Sex could be interpreted as "gender" though

odd forge
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Or even "inappropriate references to sex or sexual fantasies"

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I'm not trans so I cant speak on that, but I mean the thing before that on your list is "sexual content" and I think that can cover the bases without specifying preferences

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"sexual content, inappropriate references to fetishes or fantasies, or offensive comments"

tawdry zinc
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Yes, maybe we should consider it

odd forge
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Thanks so much for this discussion. Really appreciate it. 😁

low vortex
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Ok thanks for bringing that up. I'll try to get out reworded today

astral jasper
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How could I change my role from fluent in english to fluent in english but not a native?

low vortex
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You'll need three commands

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You need at least one native role, so use ;iam other native.

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Then remove your English native with ;iamnot English native

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Then you can add ;iam fluent english

edgy cove
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Hi :)

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I have a question

young scarab
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👀 Di

low vortex
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@odd forge ping me when you're here. I'd like to run the revision by you and see if it cuts out the ambiguity

young scarab
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@edgy cove ¿Cuál es tu pregunta?

edgy cove
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Oh sorry

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Can I suggest a channel to exchange mail? Like postcards?

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Match a nativo español with an English native?

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Voluntary, of course

young scarab
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La idea parece bonita, pero no entiendo cómo funcionaría el canal

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¿Pones tu correo en un canal y eso es todo?

edgy cove
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Precautions are needed, of course, but it think it's an interesting idea

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I've asked around a little bit, and i've gotten some positive feedback on the.idea

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There is a subreddit like this. The subreddit can be used as a model

young scarab
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¿Mandar cartas físicas a la gente?

low vortex
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Di

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young scarab
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Me parece una buena idea, pero a la vez puede ser algo peligroso.

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El servidor se haría cargo en caso de que ocurra algo con esas "cartas físicas"

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Imagínate que crees que te estás comunicando con alguien de España, pero realmente vive en Rusia y es un pedófilo

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Sólo por poner un ejemplo

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Si ocurre cosas así, el servidor se debería hacer cargo por este tipo de cosas

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No soy tampoco muy partidiario de compartir mi información personal de dónde vivo por un servidor donde hay tantas personas la verdad

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Nunca sabes quién puede tocar a tu puerta

tawdry zinc
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El objetivo es de compartir tu dirección real? :O

young scarab
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Por lo que tengo entendido, sí

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Porque quieren hacer intercambio de cartas físicas

tawdry zinc
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Creo que no es una buena idea

young scarab
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A mí me parece algo bonito, pero a día de hoy Internet no es muy seguro

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e ir diciendo tu dirección donde vives no es muy buena idea

crimson owl
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supongo que depende de cuánto confíes en la gente en Internet

young scarab
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confíes *

crimson owl
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ah gracias

young scarab
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Cada uno puede hacer lo que quiera. Si quieren ir diciendo dónde viven, están en su derecho, pero en este caso estás poniendo como responsable al servidor.

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Si ocurre algún caso de pedofilia u otra cosa, la culpa sería del servidor

marsh valve
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Se podrían hacer cartas anónimas?

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Pero en ese caso con cartas no físicas

young scarab
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Si son cartas para poner en un canal, estaría bien

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Me parecería una idea muy bonita

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¿Que la gente escriba una carta por algún comando y cada día salga una escrita en el canal? No sé si te refieres a eso

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La verdad, ahí habría que controlar que la gente no escribiese idioteces

crimson owl
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No creo que el servidor sea responsable de las personas que hacen cosas potencialmente tontas por sí mismas y que conocen los riesgos

young scarab
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Por cierto, no sé si alguien lo ha planteado antes esto pero, ¿no estaría bien que hubiera un canal llamado "vocabulary" o algo así? Donde la gente pudiera anotar palabras, expresiones o así que han aprendido

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a lo largo del día

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Suele haber gente que no encuentra a veces vocabulario y estaría bien si quisieran aprender de otros

crimson owl
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Si estuviera activo, eso estaría bien

young scarab
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Si el servidor fuera a dar por válido eso de enviar cartas físicas

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sí sería el responsable

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porque es donde la gente pone sus datos y el servidor lo ha permitido

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Bueno, lo del vocabulario, no sólo vocabulario que hayas aprendido a lo largo del día

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por si quieres enviar vocabulario u otro recurso que tenga palabras

crimson owl
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Si intercambiaran información en mensajes directos, no lo sería.

young scarab
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Ahí si tienes razón

odd forge
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@low vortex I'm here!

crimson owl
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Si hay un canal para el intercambio de direcciones reales, entonces sí, estoy de acuerdo con tu (?)

young scarab
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contigo*

crimson owl
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young scarab
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A ver qué dicen los moderadores

crimson owl
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personalmente, estaría bien intercambiando mensajes en línea o aquí

low vortex
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@odd forge I'm pm you when I am back from the store lol

edgy cove
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I definitely would never put my address on a channel

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@low vortex @crimson owl @young scarab

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I may share it confidentially in a private message, but not in a channel

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But I would never share it with someone I have not even had one video chat with

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I would recommend for anyone interested, they should get a PO Box

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But the goal is definitely to send physical letters, and even (legal) things, like candy bars or a small cheap thing

I will work on how it might be possible, and more safe, but I wouldn't want anyone to give out their real address without knowing the dangers of someone knocking on their door

I may use my work address, But I'd rather use a po box

tawdry zinc
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A PO Box is a good idea

edgy cove
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For me, a PO Box is ~US$6/mo. Some countries offer a PO Box for free. However, I know this is not possible for some people of it's too expensive.not to mention, age is a factor

tawdry zinc
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Let's train pigeons

edgy cove
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Yaassss

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Omg

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Lets hire Deli

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Pay him in cookies

tawdry zinc
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Anyway, generally, if people are up for this.. sure.. but we need to make people aware of the risks and have them make a conscious decision what to share and not to share
Though, sever wise, I am not sure how this sever can provide specific help with this kind of communication.

edgy cove
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I suppose. Only thinking of the kind of connections we make here. Maybe if it was facilitated separately from spanish-english language server, it would work better. Like kind of "sign up here", but facilitated/matched and warnings expressed through email, and then the physical letters can be exchanged..

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Still, it's something to think on, for me, I'd love to send you some Cheez Whiz, Nexus

reef sparrow
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I have absolutely no idea what that is. It sounds scary

minor condor
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do not google it nexus

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do it

crimson owl
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It's fake cheese in a can if you didn't look it up lol

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@reef sparrow

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#america

low vortex
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It's delicious. Let her send you some

minor condor
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imagine shaving cream but it's cheese

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it's unholy

crimson owl
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Shaving cream tastes better tbh

minor condor
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^^

edgy cove
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@minor condor @low vortex you are both correct

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And @crimson owl too

tawdry zinc
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You guys are weird

minor condor
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no u

dusty stump
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They are gringos

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We must be careful of them

minor condor
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(we probably should get out of message a mod)

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uwot wolfTough

glossy hatch
elder light
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It means the bot entered them in the #556189313159790592 , the number is their position in the list of questions

astral jasper
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Buenas, pasta acaba de volver al server y sigue con el rai-mute, podríais quitárselo?

astral jasper
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i think an ‘omni languages’ containment channel would be neato

tawdry zinc
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You mean a channel where you can speak any language?

astral jasper
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That would be nice

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Other Spanish servers has it

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yes

young scarab
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@astral jasper

tawdry zinc
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It is a good idea, but who would manage it?

young scarab
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Se supone que ya está

astral jasper
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Si, Nexus hizo algo creo

tawdry zinc
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(I'd love to, to be honest)

low vortex
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@astral jasper we used to have one, but it was impossible to moderate.