@low vortex ??
#⚓・contact-staff
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low vortex
I actually explained it in my post to soñé
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yeah but it was very vague and didn't really answer the question
low vortex
You'll have to be more specific about which part you didn't understand
basically, the issue is this: When people act a certain way, others believe that's an okay way to behave. When a random user comes into a server and sees people using racial slurs and cussing each other out, they don't stop to think, "Maybe these people are breaking the rules, and maybe they're just friends playing around." The instinct is to assume "These people are being aggressive, and that's okay around here." This is a server where people who are new at a language are trying to become more confident in their abilities and begin to learn. Allowing an environment to exist that would very likely be interpreted as "these people are aggressive and that's okay" is diametrically opposed to the purposes of this server
hopefully this is more of a direct answer and helps resolve your confusion
coarse acorn
i don't understand that jpb got banned for saying the n word when he's black and it's just a thing that he normally says to most people to mean dude or bro or friend and u call it a racial slur 
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well then you gotta tell them not to say the word if its not ok
low vortex
I appreciate your feedback m. However, racial slurs are not something we will allow sometimes or for some people or in some contexts. Many african americans do not find the use of the n-word to be at all appropriate, and many people who see one person use the n-word in one context will think it's okay to use it willy-nilly in other contexts. This is why we do not allow anybody to use that word or any other racial slurs in the server. It goes along with being respectful to people of all cultures - there are many, many non-racially-controversial words he could have chosen to use.
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It's not a racial slur and even if you considered it one
it would be so easy to just tell the guy not to say it
it's sooo easy to just @ him and just say don't say that word
neat pasture
Amaroq I've never even been to the US, and I'm white, and I still think you're wrong.
low vortex
I'm not entirely sure why you think that hadn't been done. Is that what he told you?
coarse acorn
yeah you should have told him not to say it instead of banning him bc u assumed he would interpret the rules exactly the same way as u
coarse acorn
from what I've heard, no one referred to any previous warning when banning him, only referred him to the rules
plus you didnt even tell him what he got banned for. you said he was banned for "being toxic"
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whereas upon reading the rules 3 times I found no way to get him banned without warning
even banning him with warning is kind of meh with those rules
low vortex
I appreciate the feedback
low vortex
Did I Personally? Or did the moderation team? Because those are different answers as I have literally never interacted with JPB once in my life
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did the moderation team
low vortex
Yes
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when
low vortex
I have no idea
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then how do you know
you're just saying that because you assume they did the right thing
but people aren't perfect
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what did you warn him about
low vortex
"How do I know it happened" is a completely different question than "what date did it happen on"
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it is
low vortex
you are being completely arbitrary and petulant right now
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that's why i asked it separately
low vortex
but when I said "I have no idea" you used that to "show" how maybe they actually never warned him
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no I didn't
I'm not being petty and using tiny correlations
I'm just asking questions
low vortex
then can you please clarify "then how do you know. you're just saying that because you assume they did the right thing but people aren't perfect"
what did you mean by that?
it was your reply to when I said I had no idea when he was warned
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I meant what I wrote ?
neat pasture
silence child
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it's not a dictatorship it's more of an oligarchy
low vortex
Can you explain how I interpreted it is incorrect? I want to make sure I'm replying correctly but I have clearly misunderstood your post
low vortex
@coarse acorn did I Miss a quesiton you asked?
Can you please explain how I misinterpreted it when I attempted to rephrase it?
coarse acorn
nah im just responding to what I've read here
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ok I'm sorry for being vague
low vortex
I am very confused by your posts, so I want to make sure I'm replying correctly
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I don't want to come off as disrespectful
I just wanna know stuff
If jpb is wrong it's fine
what did he do on those dates
that have to do with him saying that specific word
low vortex
you will have to wait for another moderator to provide more details. I'm the newest mod so I am not sure what the protocol is for providing screenshots of private conversations with other members
low vortex
I'm not sure. I would have to go back through. I don't remember if it was private message, a post in a channel, or a comment in VC
Oh, sorry, you have misunderstood, let me rephrase
the behavior was done in the server. We don't care what you do outside of this server
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ok
low vortex
is there a question other than "what exactly did JPB do in the past to get warned for" that I have not yet answered?
I would like to make sure everybody understands you can ask questions and we will answer them.
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idk
low vortex
I just don't really have the authority to provide the information you're looking for with that specific question
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it can be more general if you'd like
neat pasture
Surely they'd tell you what the protocol is when they made you a mod?
How are all the mods meant to be equal otherwise?
low vortex
The protocol for what to do if one person is banned and another person wants proof that they warned first? That is such a weirdly specific incident that no, they did not tell me
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yeah it is really specific
coarse acorn
maybe there's not a nice thicc mod handbook, dublin
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thicc
coarse acorn
thicc
yes
i have a question
what is the protocol for deciding whether to ban someone?
specifically, how many mods have to agree to that decision?
neat pasture
only The Council\™ has that information
low vortex
we post screenshots of the behavior, discuss the severity of the behavior and the likelihood of repeat behavior, discuss possible alternatives to banning and the likelihood of success, and based on that we decide whether or not to ban somebody
all of the mods have to agree to a ban
coarse acorn
@neat pasture thatd be fucked up if true. as they say
low vortex
.inrole mods
vital ruinBOT
neat pasture
Are all the mods even regularly active?
low vortex
I don't know who dittar is. So I guess all the mods but dittar have to agree to it
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it's way more offensive than the n word
neat pasture
There's a few names in that list that I've never seen outside of that list
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it's literally called the grandfather of all cuss words
coarse acorn
what word dublin lmao. fuck?
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noooo
low vortex
Commander kitty, ryry, e, alpaca, no idea who dittar is, laurens, and me
those are all the mods
neat pasture
Hmm if dittar is excluded, doesn't that just mean that it's more of a "mods who are regularly active" vote?
low vortex
yep, I guess so
coarse acorn
how much communication with the possible banee is involved in the decision?
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if a mod isnt online he cant vote lmao
low vortex
depends what the offense was
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zero communication @coarse acorn
especially if it's for saying a word, and you could easily just say dont say that word or youll get banned
low vortex
if the offense is coming into general, posting ten links to porn, cussing everybody out, and then leaving, we don't communicate with them at all. We just ban them
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well was that jpb's offense?
low vortex
however, if it's something like (to take a pertinent example) saying the n-word in a non-derogatory way, we generally PM the person and ask them to not
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that's what he did
neat pasture
but why
coarse acorn
so you did that?
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and u didnt pm that
neat pasture
just because you think the word is offensive?
coarse acorn
from everything ive heard u did not pm jpb at all bfore banning him
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ill ask him to check his message history with all the mods he has contacted
low vortex
For JPB? Or for other members? As I said earlier, I have literally never spoken to JPB in my life
coarse acorn
right sorry i didnt mean you i meant the mods. the mods didnt pm jpb before banning him.
at least from what I've gathered in multiple conversations with several different people about this
low vortex
oh yeah, I meant before banning him
I spoke with him for a few minutes after he was banned
what do you mean "before" mag?
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before banning him
coarse acorn
i mean concerning the behavior for which he was banned, between the time that he did it and the time that u banned him
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she said that
low vortex
meaning in the months before? Because I Posted two dates on which the mods did warn him before
or do you mean immediately before?
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about saying the n word?
coarse acorn
no i dont mean that
immediately before
also idk what the prev. warnings were about
low vortex
Ah, yeah, we don't generally message people immediately before banning them
coarse acorn
why not?
low vortex
if the offense is mild enough, we have messaged them previously asking them to avoid the offense. And if the offense is severe enough, they are just here to see how long it takes to be banned. There is really never any reason to
blazross, please avoid answering the questions on behalf of the moderation staff
it would help me stay organized and it would be much less disrespectful
coarse acorn
so the times u messaged him were november and august. November is nov. 2018, right? i just want to be clear on that.
low vortex
I understand that, but asking somebody to answer your questions and then putting words in their mouth when they try is confusing and disrespectful. I hope you can understand that.
i didn't message him
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yeah i understand
low vortex
and yes, both of those were from 2018
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he literally talked about this server like it was his favorite thing
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he talked about helping people all the time
neat pasture
Why do you think that people would make a connection between getting a warning and then getting banned several months later?
coarse acorn
anyway. and do you know whether both of those warnings were about saying the n word?
low vortex
well I just want to be clear, because there was confusion during this conversation and I want to make sure nobody is confused
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and about how nice it was to meet people from other places
coarse acorn
also what dublin said... yeah...
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spanish is literally his life
low vortex
I guess I just don't care if people make the connection or not. I'm not interested in holding people's hands through life. You can think me a cold hearted bitch for it, but the rules are there and then the warnings are there. If they can't make the connection, I just really don't care
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and idk if you guys think telling him to not say the n word is so bad it's not worth the benefits he brought to the server
but it really seems like it
neat pasture
But no one ever thinks of the connection
minor condor
It’s against the rules and he was aware of that when he broke that rule.
coarse acorn
it isnt against the rules tho
neat pasture
Funny how people are notified for a warning but not for getting banned proper.
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@minor condor if you break a rule because of your culture I think they should at least warn you first
low vortex
I feel like we're running around in circles
do you guys have any questions I haven't answered yet?
coarse acorn
in fact the rules say to respect others and their cultural differences, which the mods broke by banning him for saying the n word
neat pasture
^^^^^^
coarse acorn
yeah amaroq
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EVEN THEN if the mods don't like the word they could've told him not to say it
back to the original thing
which they never did
coarse acorn
were the two warnings for saying the n word, or for something else?
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you refer to warnings for other things
which he told me a mod never warned him about anything in pm
which leaves in the server
but he said a mod never told him not to say the n word
low vortex
he also said he wasn't even in the voice channel when the whole thing occured, which you can see on the video is not true
coarse acorn
but let amaroq answer my question dude pls
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he said he wasnt in the voice channel when you banned him
coarse acorn
also when did he say that
coarse acorn
bruhhhh i just wanna know what the previous warnings were for
low vortex
well, I don't know when he said it. Really, blazross said that JPB said that. But JPB was right there on the video
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of course he was in the video
low vortex
as I said earlier, I'll have to let another mod answer that one for you, no matter how many times you ask
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he was in vc when it was being recorded
the only time he wasn't in vc was afterwards
when he left
coarse acorn
okay sorry for not reading well enough to get that, amaroq. thank u.
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that's when he originally thought the whole thing happened
which was false because there was false information given
because you had said that you were there in vc
so he mustve concluded that the incident happened when a mod was there, not when he was there. Which was false because a mod was never there. it's simple logic. given a false statement you arrive at a false conclusion
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obviously now we know better
but let's get back on track
the warnings happened on the server
but if they weren't for saying the n word, they must've been for something else
if there were two warnings they must've been something that didn't really matter
or they must've been two totally different things that had nothing to do with each other
maybe a conversation topic that wasn't something comfortable with everyone else on the voice chat
and then he stopped
or he would've gotten banned
so it seems to me like a warning works
you should try it sometime, maybe the next time someone uses the n word because of their culture
and I know I'm being facetious, but what I'm saying is true
low vortex
I just want to put this here. Hopefully it doesn't go against anything
JPB was okay with being banned for saying the n-word, if that tells you anything about how many times he's been warned, or about whether or not he understands it's against the rules.
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i dont think that's the case
low vortex
and hopefully it tells you something about how much effort you're putting into unbanning a guy who understands he was banned for using the n-word and was accepting of it
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he understands his ban because it had a reason, no?
but upon reading the rules and all the information i have right now, i think it's safe to say he doesn't understand anymore
and that still doesn't tell me his ban was fair
neat pasture
I just want to put this here. Hopefully it doesn't go against anything
Go on, skirt the rules to prove your point
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i can accept someone slapping me in the face
neat pasture
Absolute hypocrisy
low vortex
don't worry, if it does I will accept the consequences. I don't believe it goes against the rules, but if it does, I'll accept the consequences that come
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it only says he accepts his fate, fair or unfair
amaroq do you see what you're doing
you're not being toxic
you're not making everyone feel bad
you're doing what you feel is right
and you still think you might be punished
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that's literally an unfair system
neat pasture
slow clap
low vortex
okay thank you, I appreciate your feedback
lusty schooner
look guys, JPB is not banned from Discord
you can still talk to him, alright? If you had to moderate a 5000+ people server
you would understand (Edit: it's a classic for a reason)
neat pasture
ah, the classic "you would understand"
similar to the classic line "you'll understand when you're older"
haughty goblet
id like to make a quick comment as im nor sure if it has been made yet
but it seems like you guys are hung up on the thing that happened at the time of the ban
we didnt just ban him because he said the N word once
Their group has been a recurring problem for a long time where they are rude to others or are making very crude comments/'jokes'
we have warned them about this previously and the last time where we banned them they were being rude to others again which is what pushed us towards a ban.
so please dont think we banned for just one little incident when this has been going on for months
coarse acorn
okay
it seems like u guys need to communicate better the reasons you're banning them to the people you ban
also i don't know what you're talking about with jpb or pubi making crude/rude comments or jokes. but whatever. especially not jpb bc I've known him like the entire time I've used the voice channels here and talked to him outside of here too and i can't imagine what you might be referring to that he's said.
but okay.
novel pollen
^^^^^
low vortex
Thank you for your feedback. We appreciate hearing your perspectives and I look forward to taking them into consideration for future instances
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for future instances
low vortex
?
kindred basin
I have the Hardcore role, but none of my English messages are getting deleted.
haughty goblet
Hmm that's odd
Does it not delete it anywhere
There's some channels that are exempt afaik
minor condor
english basic and advanced are okay to speak english in even in hardcore
haughty goblet
When I clicked on his name he had it...
Or at least I thought he did
Oh well
Lol
dreamy folio
He added it after he asked
haughty goblet
hmm i may have answered him after he added it then cuz it was the first thing i checked for
haughty goblet
👍
dreamy folio
I believe you sorry for doubting you lol
haughty goblet
lmao its good
little cosmos
muchachos/as, le falta la descripción a .iam 🔥Hardcore🔥 en #499544213466120192
en el canal rules ya tiene descripción, solo falta traducir.
low vortex
@little cosmos can you translate it?
viscid mango
Elimina todos tus mensajes A EXCEPCIÓN de los que estén en el idioma que estás aprendiendo (por ejemplo, este modo eliminará tus mensajes en español si estás aprendiendo inglés). Necesitas tener ya sea el rol de 'Learning Spanish' o el de 'Learning English'
I intentionally switched the languages in the example part, cause you're reading the description in spanish
low vortex
Sweet
low vortex
I'll edit it as soon as I get on my PC
viscid mango
yw 
young scarab
En #499544213466120192 hay una errata con la palabra 'hispanohablante'
young scarab
Y en #499544213466120192 y #📜・rules sigue habilitado la opción de añadir emoticonos
De nada
dreamy folio
you're twice the best
bleak kettle
@dreamy folio
minor condor
thanks!
lusty venture
I saw we should add back the chocolate abuelita emoji again
dim turret
never
minor condor
Yes
astral jasper
Be sure that all the bots are not muted in those channels, please.
dreamy folio
They were only deafened
However, forcing a server mute and then taking it off seems to have fixed it
Idk I'll test it more later
I'm at work
For now, is Ardent playing music?
astral jasper
Don't worry, we have already one bot, so that's not a big problem. Hope everything go well in your work.
Yes, it's playing.
minor condor
hey uh, fredsito can't play music in the music channel
bleak kettle
oh
minor condor
bleak kettle
fixed 
minor condor
dreamy folio
😮
solid spire
<@&258806166770024449> Someone delete my tag about sesion de lectura
vital ruinBOT
rare hedge
solid spire
Oh, thanks!
Im new here ^^
solid spire
Thank you !
low vortex
Ryry está intentando arreglarlo
dreamy folio
Está fixed
full quartz
Está fixed
sturdy badger
close #529311329564098576 
🔫
dreamy folio
I think we'll close it on the 10th of the month. It's the 13th. Oops
rare hedge
close it on 14 because 14
rocky linden
Or Lunar’s new year on Feb 5 🥳
dreamy folio
I mean I'm fine with keeping it for longer if people have a reason to but it seems like people aren't really using the channel anymore
lusty venture
We should keep it as an archive to remind people about their resolutions about the year
....if I remember right, that channel was to post resolutions....right?
sturdy badger
delete it. you probably all failed your resolutions anyway.
odd escarp
we need a bot to nag people about their resolutions
bleak kettle
^
dreamy folio
I said it would be temporary so there shouldn't be much worry about people losing important things they've supposedly possibly put in there
odd escarp
we can spanish-shame people: taco did you review your anki deck today?
haughty goblet
@dreamy star what is going on?
dreamy star
(( just a joke for Jaleel, sorry ))
haughty goblet
Just remember all the mods try to read this channel asap
So please don't joke in here
rare hedge
... and welcoming party
restive goblet
<@&258806166770024449> Puede quitar alguien Hardcore Mode para mi?
dreamy folio
Ok I did it, but in the future you can do .iamnot :fire:Hardcore:fire:, or any other role with .iamnot <role name>
restive goblet
Ah okay, my bad
dreamy folio
It's alright 👍
dreamy folio
.iamnot :fire:hardcore:fire
And you don't need to actually write the < >, those are just to somehow specify that they're placeholders
dreamy star
.iamnot 🔥hardcore:fire
haughty goblet
@dreamy star do that in #🤖・general-bot please
coarse acorn
if there's an emoji update and theres space u guys should add that angry crying emoji
this?
coarse acorn
it's kinda like this but crying
bleak kettle
bleak kettle
hahahaha i like the resolution
is
coarse acorn
raibot deleting emojis?
bleak kettle
i like this one
dreamy folio
it ignores all emojis form messages
coarse acorn
ok cool
dreamy folio
takes emojis and urls out of messages and then calculates it
so it will only delete if it determines with certainty that the rest of your message is english
if it's only 96% certain it's english, it won't delete
if it's literally just an emoji, it shouldn't delete
if it does, it's a bug and please tell me at that time
coarse acorn
it's a good emoji 
lusty schooner
astral jasper
can i post here?
full quartz
@astral jasper What's up?
astral jasper
the celling.
full quartz
Just remember all the mods try to read this channel asap
So please don't joke in here
restive pendant
<@&258806166770024449> help please, @stuck ocean is doing mic-noise
low vortex
I am not at the PC. Is anybody else available, mods?
obsidian lion
@restive pendant oka
barren mortar
Cristian is no longer in the vc
astral jasper
Good morning from Spain
flat chasmBOT
🆙 | nhyto leveled up!
barren mortar
Good morning from modland. Make sure to only use this channel to make suggestions.
prime lantern
Create a room for 2 people, that is to simulate an interview, with your own questions?
flat chasmBOT
🆙 | XxMinetyxX leveled up!
novel pollen
you can use max 2
low vortex
You can also follow the instructions here to create a temporary private channel: https://discordapp.com/channels/243838819743432704/243858957838450689/520619644898377743
dreamy folio
They're pinned in all the voice channels
minor condor
Was there any consensus on a pet channel?
barren mortar
We had one once
We figured it didn’t require its own channel so we deleted it
But feel free to show us pictures of your pets!
minor condor
Oki thanks mister dew
dreamy folio
I would like a pet channel
I think we determined we didn't want it because it wasn't being used
It was dead at that time
We could give it another try 
low vortex
I want it, too
haughty goblet
I'm ok with it
dreamy folio
Then let's maaaake it I'll make the first submission
If it dies again we'll delete it again
You need either the cats or dogs role to get in
low vortex
Haha I don't know! What if you hate both but want to see cute lobster pictures?
minor condor
flat chasmBOT
🆙 | Abigail423 leveled up!
dreamy folio
I'm on mobile so I didn't do much configuration. If another mod wants to make more roles go ahead
low vortex
No more roles
There's too many already
I just didn't know why it was tied to a role at all
lusty venture
Common Amaroq
dim turret
crimes role
coarse acorn
crimes role!!!!
lunar chasm
Hola mods, @astral jasper me ha insultado
astral jasper
mentira te pregunté de estar tranquilito pq esoy dormido
y estamo hablando tranquilamente
lunar chasm
?
Me has dicho "la concha de tu madre" (insulto), @iron gale y @frozen shale
Están de testigos.
low vortex
You are acting like that guy we banned recently.... 
low vortex
Yes
weak spade
Can you put some happy reactions on the last message in the #🔔・notifications channel please?
bleak kettle
okay haha
spare warren
Hello mods, I feel like there should be an intermediate spanish section maybe? One is advanced and one is beginner so it would make sense. But maybe it would make the others more slow paced so idk. Just a suggestion.
coarse acorn
i feel like beginner spanish often gets to an intermediate level
bleak kettle
^
lusty schooner
more than often
spare warren
yea true but tbh the beginner section always just ends up people saying hi
And saying the same thing. Over and over 😂
Hola cómo estás? Estoy bien... blah blah blah
and then “de donde eres”
coarse acorn
🤔
if you're willing to present conversational writing in spanish at an intermediate level and you do so then people will likely respond at the same level
also if you're bored by beginner spanish and want the conversation to come to you instead of you actively participating, maybe consider checking out #🦎・ꜱᴘ∕avanzado at least a bit. it can be intimidating, especially with faster conversations but there are often more chill conversations there, and you can just read if you want and people are usually willing to answer questions about slang
i mean. not if u don't want to participate, actually, because really you need to be willing to if you're going to learn a language
lusty schooner
true
spare warren
@coarse acorn yea the avanzado is good BUT read the name itself. It’s too advanced for me and probably others. I can pick out some of the words and understand some stuff, but I would have to use google translate most of the time
coarse acorn
mm okay. yeah i think you need to bring it to #🐸・ꜱᴘ∕principiante, then
by which i mean bring it!!
lusty schooner
you can also try chatting at intermediate level on #☕・general
lusty schooner
por* 
spare warren
dreamy folio
I feel like the beginner channels are not really beginners but more like "for whoever wants to use them as long as they're not advanced"
rare hedge
^
odd escarp
@spare warren I’ve been on the server for 5 months and i feel that #🐸・ꜱᴘ∕principiante is perfect for anyone from beginner to advanced level. The native speakers are incredibly patient and help maintaining the conversation
odd escarp
#🐟・ᴇɴ∕beginner though on the other is worse. It’s usually going into a loop of Hi, hello, how are you ... 2 hours of nothing then repeat
spark forge
Hi, I won't necessarily be available when you answer but if a mod could let me know if I'm banned from voicechat and why, I'd appreciate it, feel free to tag me
rare hedge
@spark forge are u available now?
try to join general and I'll see what's up.
If it seems you are deafened/muted or both when on your end you are not deafened/muted then some mod must have muted you either for a reason or by accident(unlikely)
rare hedge
ok. I see that you have been server muted.
spark forge
what for ?
rare hedge
I will discuss with the mods.
spark forge
well then
dreamy folio
@spark forge we have nothing in our logs about muting you
Could be a mistake
If you join voice one last time I'll take off the server mute if it's there
rare hedge
@spark forge join any VC channel
spark forge
done
rare hedge
@dreamy folio i unmuted.
dreamy folio
thankyou
spark forge
thanks
dreamy folio
Sorry for the trouble
lethal ruin
Can I get the purple flair just for the meme? Please 🙇
low vortex
No, it will make you evil with power
This is how super villains are made
It's too dangerous
bleak kettle
^
lethal ruin
I kinda knew the answer before asking, but thanks
bleak kettle
eso nos da el poder de ser los entes mas puros, nosotros como defensores de la luz divina de Dios debemos proteger a toda costa la luz violeta que hace a los hombres entender la realidad trascendente y sensible que Socrates una vez intentó demostrar
low vortex
I am just looking out for your well being. Your safety is my primary concern
bleak kettle
Nosotros por orden de Dios, no podemos donarte tal poder, el debe permanecer dentro de cuerpos puros que no sean consumidos por pecados capitales
nosotros somos angeles guardianes
somos otra cara de un solo Dios
fin del comunicado
lethal ruin
I guess the hardest choices require the strongest wills
bleak kettle
podemos observar la impureza de tu alma, Dios se molestaría si te otorgasemos tal poder, seguro obnubilará tu alma.
así que no podemos, fin del comunicado.
igualmente te amamos
tulip dragon
Where should I ask for help with a Spanish project?
bleak kettle
#📗・preguntas-lounge @tulip dragon
full quartz
O #📝・correct-me-please si necesitas que alguien te corrija
sturdy badger
isn't it time to unban darex? why was he banned
astral jasper
por qué banearon a darex
bleak plover
Guay was he banned
low vortex
I don't know who that is. What's his ID?
Oh no I see where we last discussed his unban. Let me bring it up again for the group to consider
sturdy badger
thanks for looking into it 👍
astral jasper
ddi he get unbanned
low vortex
No
frank geyser
OOOOWO
bleak kettle
@frank geyser no
we have already too many channels
and this one doesn't make really sense
hearty night
;;play
hoary flareBOT
The player is not currently playing anything. Use the following syntax to add a song:
;;play <url-or-search-terms>
hearty night
hoary flareBOT
La Arrolladora Banda el Limon - Que me vas a dar si vuelvo will now play.
dreamy folio
Please do that in #🎵・songs-videos @hearty night
These don't qualify as worthy messages to mods
Unless you just really wanted to let them know that La Arrolladora Banda el Limon - Que me vas a dar si vuelvo will now play.
bleak kettle
good canción
minor condor
(but seriously this channel is for serious business)*
rare hedge
agile charmBOT
low vortex
@wide dock what's up?
wide dock
i was trying to find the roles you could assign to yourself
low vortex
Did you figure it out?
I assume you did since you have a lot of roles now haha. Let us know if you need anything else!
dim turret
do .lsar in #🤖・general-bot and you can see all self assignable roles
pale karma
can we rename spanish conversation 2 to
spanish conversation 1
and convo 3 to convo 2
echo karma
Can we ban people without letters in their name?
stoic oak
you can autoban yourself
coarse acorn
self-ban yourself
dreamy folio
I agree to the voice channel naame changes
I think right now English General and Spanish General are kind of like the "one" channels but it doesn't make sense if we don't put a 1 in the name to make the next ones 2
coarse acorn
i always thought of a "spanish conversation" channel as being a different kind of channel from "spanish general"
so i agree too
steep turret
A mí me gustaría que así como la palabra del día ,hubiera el tema del día para que las personas traten de usar vocabulario relacionado a ese tema porque algunos no saben que decir porque están aprendiendo pero si hay un tema de conversación predefinido que cambia constantemente tendrian una idea
Ejemplo ,tema de hoy: comida
Y se trata de hablar de vocabulario y gramática referente de comida para las personas que están aprendiendo
dreamy folio
Thank you
rare hedge
If there's no mods on, there's still me.
coarse acorn
threatening
robust geyser
what's the command for the dictionary bot?
robust geyser
yes! thank you 😃
minor condor
anytime!
timber abyss
how do you get the different tags?
rancid python
@timber abyss go in #🤖・general-bot and use .iam (tag)
Replace (tag) with whatever tag you want
You can see available tags with .lsar
timber abyss
ok thanks 😃
rancid python
Np
pale karma
can we rename spanish conversation 2 to
spanish conversation 1
and convo 3 to convo 2
robust geyser
does the hardcore mode affect all of your messages in all rooms?
^ messages in native language
minor condor
It doesn't affect the language you use in the language channels #🐸・ꜱᴘ∕principiante #🦎・ꜱᴘ∕avanzado #🐟・ᴇɴ∕beginner #🐬・ᴇɴ∕advanced
so you can speak english in the english channels and spanish in the spanish channels
minor condor
non-english, what do you mean?
minor condor
ah yeah. So for you it'll stop you speaking english in the spanish channels but it won't stop you speaking spanish in the english channels (although you shouldn't do that anyway)
also it'll delete any english you write in the other channels
robust geyser
okay great! if I turn it on now will it delete old messages in english? like these, for example
or just the ones I write from now on?
minor condor
just the ones you write from now on
robust geyser
okay great! thanks so much (-:
minor condor
no prob!
modest panther
hello i need help
rancid python
What help do you need? @modest panther
modest panther
im muted for some reason
idk why
i didnt do anything
i was just talking then muted
rancid python
Where?
modest panther
in english general i think
rancid python
VC? You have your mic set to mute
modest panther
i was talking to abby then muted
rancid python
Try pressing the mic icon
modest panther
i did im still muted
i tested my mic its pluged in and working i was randomly muted
im trying to talk
rancid python
Try leaving and entering and see if you are still muted, and try joining a VC in another server and see if the problem is still there
rancid python
The mods might have muted you by accident or something, try tagging them and asking
modest panther
@bleak kettle can you please unmute me i was randomly muted
im just sitting in the general english channel
rare hedge
@modest panther think about what you have done first.
coarse acorn
sometimes I've had problems where i can't unmute my mic even though I'm not server muted or anything
modest panther
what did i do
coarse acorn
oh ok looks like u were server muted rip
modest panther
i really dont know what i did
coarse acorn
also mods can you guys stop assuming people know what they did wrong? bc sometimes they actually don't know
modest panther
i was talking to abby then muted randomly
coarse acorn
like whats wrong w explaining it
rare hedge
first: chill out on your swearing
second: don't voice spam
coarse acorn
wait, it's against the rules to swear now? 📝 :o
rare hedge
he was excessive
but the one that triggered it was the voice spam
e.g. make some weird sound (for no reason) then leave channel immediately
modest panther
look im sorry i didnt mean to offend
coarse acorn
oh ok thanks 14
modest panther
i'm not here to troll or be nuisance i cam to this discord today for help with Spanish and try to converse with people form other countries
low vortex
Well just keep in mind everybody came here to practice a language by talking with others and it's hard to do that when somebody is spamming
robust geyser
I wanna get some feedback on some answers for a quick spanish reading comprehension thing I did, where would be the best place to post it?
low vortex
@robust geyser #📝・correct-me-please
naive skiff
Soooo, i made a bot that lets you add a reaction to a message and it gets translated
through your dm
If you want to add it to the server just dm me
coarse acorn
whoa :o
@naive skiff does it send the og message along with the translated version?
coarse acorn
nice
rancid python
lol you might want to add a bit more
code
also i tested it and it does not seem to work
the bot may not be online
dreamy folio
Probably better to translate off country flags rather than a custom emoji, most servers are maxed out on emojis
Also since you're using google translate API, I would add some rate limits, or else people could spam your bot and run up your API bill
lusty venture
@dreamy folio there's an API bill? How much is it?
Google cloud?
Crud i hope it's not Google cloud, I use that for my Google Assistant project
dreamy folio
Translation $20 per 1,000,000 characters
In general Google cloud doesn't cost money
It's the individual API endpoints that you have to manually choose to enable that cost money
You should be able to see if you're paying anything on your billing tab
lusty venture
I actually have an outstanding $2.36 or something like that with Google I need to dispute, kinda scared to check the billing tab in case they charge interest
This happened over 6 months ago
naive skiff
@dreamy folio it isn't the google translate api, it is kind of a rip off of it haha
i use it for free
i just use their servers
naive skiff
:)
rancid python
I use google translates api by scraping the website
astral jasper
Can anyone pass me the invitation link?
Alguien me podría pasar el enlace de invitación por favor.
astral jasper
Gracias mi estimado pan con cerezas.
(This comment is only understood by people who has studied @UncaughtException#9998's sense of humour, do not struggle to understand it)
dim turret
minor condor
you're in hardcore mode @slim jay
to fix it go to #🤖・general-bot and type .iam not 🔥hardcore🔥
slim jay
What´s the difference?
minor condor
and don't forget the fire icons, it won't work without them
Hardcore mode makes you only type in the language you're learning. So it's deleting all your english
slim jay
Ahhhhhhhhh Thanks!
dreamy folio
For now I've removed the role manually
If you ever want hardcore back, go push the fire reaction in #📜・rules or type .iam :fire:hardcore:fire
slim jay
Thanks!
astral jasper
You should really consider invting the "TeXiT" bot, he has a command which allows users to rotate images 😄
Here is the link to invite that bot to the server: https://discordapp.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=510789298321096704&permissions=268822598&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdiscord.gg%2FM3fAm28&scope=bot
dreamy folio
Rotate images? That doesn't sound like something that is very necessary for users to be able to do honestly
coarse acorn
*...to be able to do, honestly [otherwise it looks like ur talking about the ability to, without lying or cheating, rotate the images]
rancid python
barren mortar
Hm?
coarse acorn
is there a rule that says i can't correct people in their native language?
(or just the possibility that it makes me look like a pedantic jerk?)
bleak kettle
si estas 100% segura de que esta mal hazlo, si no entonces no
barren mortar
The possibility is there, but you can do it since it's not against the rules
Though I'd advise against it
bleak kettle
restive goblet
Just want to remind everyone of this idea. It seems to have gotten a lot of support but not a single word of a possibility of it being implemented
low vortex
how would you suggest implementing it?
it seemed unimplementable to me, but I may just be missing creativity
restive goblet
it's simple, just adding a channel where we can discuss a certain topic. I guess one of the mods could suggest a topic every week, and that one topic would be pinned until the next one comes around
low vortex
ohhh
I thought you meant like provide some sort of server-wide theme and everybody would try to talk about them in across all channels alld ay
restive goblet
oh no, not that
low vortex
I like that idea
I Just didn't understand it at all the first few times it was proposed
restive goblet
I guess it would go under the "chatter" category. I think it would be very useful for learning new vocabulary
usually in chats like español_principiante and beginner_english, the only thing we talk about is our day and simple stuff like that
we don't use much of the new vocabulary that we learn
low vortex
yeah, it would be neat to have a channel where eveybody can talk about one specific topic in whichever language
restive goblet
dim turret
people with no language roles can access the #🐤・pets-mascotas channel and get confused about not being able to use the rest of the server, it happened a couple times now
vague smelt
Animal paradise, wut
dim turret
a channel for sharing pet pictures
you can access if you have the dogs/cats role
for some reason
low vortex
I think it shouldn't require a role, personally. A lot of people don't know it exists because they don't want to add some random role
vague smelt
Yeah, it's pretty similar to food in content
dim turret
I only added the dogs role because I wanted to see the channel
rare hedge
lol, I didn't have access the channel because I did not want to give myself the dogs or cats role, but I have found a way to see the channel without it now xD
vague smelt
Are you gonna get rid of all your roles just to see it?
low vortex
I don't know how to change what roles are required for a channel...
and also I don't understand why it was set up that way in the first place and I don't want to be stepping on anybody's toes
dim turret
I know you can add a required role to access a channel, but I don't know how it works with two. You need a language role to access most of the server, and dogs/cats for this one, but I'm not sure if you can set it up so you need both at the same time. Maybe it's the same for sensitive topics and #👚・outfit-skincare , but new people tend to use the dogs/cats role more (?
low vortex
I figured out how to do it. Now I just have to wait for permission to remove it
dreamy folio
Oh looks like all the fun channels are public, that's my mistake. I thought we were doing role entry into the channels
low vortex
Is it fixed now?
I changed the role to "/" for everyone, but I don't know if there is more to do
dreamy folio
Yeah you got it, thanks
rancid python
Why is hardcore bot bot working?
dreamy folio
oh some silly reason surely
i'll fix it soon
I'm playing DJ on a differnet server so I'm a bit busy right now 😅
coarse acorn
ok, cool
bleak plover
Qué bot era el responsable del comando "k!es"?
Porque no funciona
A no ser, que lo hayáis eliminado
dim turret
kotoba
dim turret
está de vacaciones
dreamy folio
Hmm the bot works
I asked the bot owner about it
Seems his API endpoint is just having a rough day lol
Nothing he can do
rancid python
Why does the bot delete "y usted"
low vortex
What bot?
low vortex
^^
rancid python
It kept deleting continuously for me tho for some reason
astral jasper
Suddenly, I have more roles than I had specified.
rare hedge
@astral jasper Hiciste reacciones en #499544213466120192 o #📜・rules , ¿quizá?
astral jasper
Ahora me doy cuenta porque ocurrió eso.
rare hedge
todo lo que tienes que hacer es quitar las reacciones (o lo que hiciste .iamnot)
o .iamn
so if you want to get those roles more easily, you can also toggle the reactions in #499544213466120192
or #📜・rules , no importa
dreamy folio
For short messages, hardcore mode is not perfect. The reason why the bot deleted "y usted" is because for some reason it determined that was English. Hold on, I'll write something that will print out the bot's language reading on a phrase.
rigid narwhal
hola, los bots de música no están funcionando bien?
dim turret
araña tampoco estaba funcionando bien el otro día, pero fred sí
rigid narwhal
fred se malogró :tb
lethal ruin
Never seen 5 mods active at the same time. Is there something up? 
low vortex
Nope, you just got lucky
lusty venture
During peak hours it's normal
minor condor
that's what they want you to think
rare hedge
astral jasper
Is there a list of moderators ?
vital ruinBOT
vital ruinBOT
wraith belfry
Is there a new link I can use to invite a friend to this server?
vague smelt
You can create an instant invite from the sidebar, no?
plush oracleBOT
@restive goblet, you can't send other server invites here!
low vortex
@dreamy folio look, there's the bot that deletes people's invite links
(That shouldn't be happening)
vague smelt
And the music bot, of all bots
low vortex
yeah, what's it thinking! So egotistical
vague smelt
How dare you @plush oracle
dreamy folio
I don't know why that link appears broken for you, it's still open
Are you in 100 servers?
Are you banned from our server?
@wraith belfry
wraith belfry
I tried creating invites but when I sent them to people they were immediately nullified
I’m not banned nor do I have many servers.
haughty goblet
if theyve never joined then they must be in too many servers
wraith belfry
It may have just been a visual glitch on my end
haughty goblet
hmm maybe
wraith belfry
The link that puzzle sent me now appears visible
dreamy folio
Ardent support server is kind of dead
I tried asking there and no response yet
i'll keep waiting but for now I've removed ardent's ability to delete messages
Hopefully this doesnt' break anything lol
grand iron
Hey guys, i dunno why, but i cant post on "sesion de lectura #1 e #2"
Id like to talk there
minor condor
they only open up during sessions. What did you want to post?
dreamy folio
If you want we could make it into a server event and announce it for you and everything. Or, if you just only specific people in mind, you could use the instructions pinned the voice text channels to make a private room
&help private
agile charmBOT
sacred sapphire
buenas tengan cuidado con esta persona creo q no esta en este servidor para aprender ni ingles ni español justy#0645
low vortex
ajá, gracias por la advertencia
dusty cliff
Cual es su intencion? xd
noble pivot
Hola, quiero saber, hay un rol para alguien que sabe bien español e inglés?
bleak plover
Fluent Spanish/English
noble pivot
Me pueden dar ambos?
Soy nativo parlante español, pero ya llevo más de 8 años dominando el inglés
little cosmos
tenés el tag de nativo en español así que no necesitás agregarte el de fluent
Podés usar el fluent english si lo dominás bien
noble pivot
Pues si, la verdad lo hablo, leo y escribo bien
Y mi vocabulario es bastante amplio
Y mi acento está bastante entrenado
little cosmos
podés asignártelo en #🤖・general-bot
vague smelt
Puedes darte a tú mismo
vague smelt
Puedes hacer clic en este y te llevará allí: #🤖・general-bot
Nvm, veo que ya lo encontraste
noble pivot
Gracias de todas formas
Se aprecia la ayuda
Oye, ahora que me fijo @vague smelt eres nativo inglés, estás aprendiendo español?
flat chasmBOT
🆙 | 𝓢𝓾𝓹𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓷𝓴 leveled up!
noble pivot
Qué es eso de subir de nivel? xD
little cosmos
les aconsejaría moverse a otro canal, este es solo para hacer sugerencias a los mods
no hay problema!
rose canyon
Why does @astral jasper have permission to use a swastika in their profile picture
This is fucking gross
rose canyon
Look I don't appreciate it even as a joke, nazis fucking exterminated gays
little cosmos
podés usar el ; report
astral jasper
(and like, basically everyone but)
little cosmos
pero sí, no debería tener esa imagen ni en broma
dim turret
sí, si nisiquiera escribe mucho va a ser difícil que lo noten, mejor reportar
rose canyon
It was the first thing I saw in #🐸・ꜱᴘ∕principiante and it just ticked me off
That was my experience basically
flat chasmBOT
🆙 | Amaroq has given @rose canyon a reputation point!
rigid narwhal
quienes manejan los bots?
low vortex
Suena un chiste, pero dos hombres llamado Ryan
Deberían estar trabajando. Puedes dejar tu pregunta aquí para ellos
viscid inlet
can you remove my english native role please...
full quartz
You can go to #🤖・general-bot or #🙋・welcome and type .iamn English Native
viscid inlet
ok,thx
full quartz
lusty venture
I suggest we change the server icon to have the American flag included :)
bleak kettle
hmmm
bajo esa idea pensaria que lo mas justo es cambiar la de españa para poner otros paises
dim turret
ok, then add every single country that speaks spanish too
bleak kettle
^
dim turret
clog the logo
astral jasper
Can we get a 1 on 1 request channel? For example, I've learned a lot from messaging people, but trying to keep up in the current text channels is a bit out of my league
low vortex
You can ping them in #🍁・general-2 . That's basically what that channel is for
dreamy folio
You could also bear with the channels long enough to find partners in those channels, and treat the entire server like a big application ground for finding one on one partners too
low vortex
You can also create a private voice channel using the directions pinned in #💬・general-vc and #340682676602273793
astral jasper
Thanks! This server been great, and @dreamy folio that's not a bad idea lol
dreamy folio
Final option would be to go into the smaller channels
Go start a conversation in like #🎥・movies-anime-pelis or something and not many people would bother you lol
heavy crescent
(People have suggested me to post this suggestion here) Maybe the "Native Speaker" role should be used as a measure of proficiency instead of just a role which determines your first language in order to avoid English-Level related stereotypes from happening in here.
dim turret
what
minor condor
what
dull wagon
I am not agree. Everyone here has a native language and that's a fact. It is useful to know which language someone learned first and what is it's preferred language. Now, if there are stereotypes, those are not tags problems. People just need to learn to not talk about what they do not know or at least ask questions to destroy stereotypes.
if you don't want people know which is your native language, just simply use "fluently" tags
heavy crescent
Its just a suggestion 😅
dim turret
I'm completely lost
minor condor
I think people will stereotype regardless of native/fluency status
dim turret
stereotypes?
dull wagon
Yeah i know it's just a suggestion. I am just replying xD
astral jasper
@heavy crescent what kind of stereotyping have you encountered? Or are you just worried that it might happen?
bleak kettle
qué
minor condor
I'm just mildly confused. Native speaker is a specific level of proficiency as is.
dim turret
the meaning is pretty literal
bleak kettle
^
heavy crescent
@astral jasper Well, I just feel like, as an example, in a job interview someone with a Native Speaker status would be picked over someone with a Fluent Speaker status when it comes to that language's level.
dull wagon
but... we do not look for jobs here
dim turret
nani
heavy crescent
I dont know why it is this confusing though, in the general chat it wasnt that much
astral jasper
I think people pretty quickly know who gives good advice or not in the channel
heavy crescent
And people kinda agreed with me, and told me to post it here
So I guess Im not just spitting non sense just for the sake of it
astral jasper
I guess it's nice to have people who have "native" status because you can ask them about more culture specific questions
dim turret
in spanish you have, burd, vagabundo, porog, amaroq
etc. etc.
no one cares
they know their stuff
astral jasper
also jaleel
dim turret
it's never ever been a problem
bleak kettle
exacto, ahora si necesitas ayuda de nativos aclaras que tu pregunta va solo para nativos
como he hecho yo varias veces jaja
dull wagon
dude, i think it's simple. We are here to learn and share, not to compete. If someone picks one guy that is a native to talk, there will be another one who picks other guy that is not. It's about learning, not anything else. And in fact, i've never seen someone saying "I prefer to talk with him cause he is native".
heavy crescent
Alright, I understand your opinions and as I said its just a suggestion, so please dont take it that seriously
bleak kettle
yo a veces hago pregunta solo a nativos pero es porque la pregunta lo amerita jaja
dim turret
people are just happy to receive help, worst case they just say "I'm not sure about this, let's wait for a native to confirm"
minor condor
On the english side of things, half the Fluent English people speak english as well or better than the natives do
bleak kettle
okay, si no vamos a llegar a nada paremos la conversacion aca jaja
astral jasper
@heavy crescent thanks for the suggestion, don't feel bad about it 😃 Sorry if you feel people are being harsh
bleak kettle
@heavy crescent tomaremos en cuenta tu sugerencia, gracias.