#support-2 | LuckPerms | Page 109

river sky Jul 18, 2022, 12:57 PM

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An LPC Question:
So i basically have groups/ranks and i wana change the color of username and message of different groups, LPC allows u to do that by setting colors for different groups in Config like i did in the screenshot
But the problem is i have 2 staff ranks that have suffix instead of prefix that is Moderator now without the those two ranks color works fine, but if i give moderator to a person (who will must have a normal rank) because moderator is a higher priority rank LPC will not use the color code i have for the username, any solution for that?
unless i totally have to remove suffixes from my server (which i obsiously cant lol)

sour gorge Jul 18, 2022, 12:59 PM

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why are you not just using one single format, and use the meta system for lpc.

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if suffix is empty, it wont show anything so nothing wrong with using suffix placeholder even for groups who do not have a suffix

river sky Jul 18, 2022, 1:06 PM

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I can use single format, but i need different groups to have different colors, and let me explain the suffix problem more deeply
in the first screenshot u can see that for all chat format there is prefix, name and suffix then message, no color codes
then i have the default rank that i have at the moment, and if i type anything it wont show the color code i typed for default rank

exotic spear Jul 18, 2022, 1:07 PM

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Unable to download luckperms on forge 1.16.5?

sour gorge Jul 18, 2022, 1:08 PM

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the coloring, again, can be done witrh luckperms meta

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thats what that is for

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#963430102937534504 message

river sky Jul 18, 2022, 1:09 PM

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Alright, i may understand Meta properly first

sour gorge Jul 18, 2022, 1:10 PM

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you can create luckperms metas out of thin air

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name it anything you want, apply any value you want.

deep urchin Jul 18, 2022, 1:10 PM

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Fore developer, can you guys look at #luckperms-api ?

silver trellis Jul 18, 2022, 2:40 PM

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Does anyone know why in chat the rank prefix is not showing? same with tag. Im using luckperms bungeecord

void verge Jul 18, 2022, 2:53 PM

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silver trellis Does anyone know why in chat the rank prefix is not showing? same with tag. Im u...

!chat

wintry cloudBOT Jul 18, 2022, 2:53 PM

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LuckPerms does not perform any chat/tablist formatting of its own!

LuckPerms only acts as the source for prefixes / suffixes, it doesn't actually apply them. You need an appropriately configured chat/tablist formatting plugin for them to be displayed. If the values appear correctly when you run /lp user <user> info, LuckPerms is doing its job!

FAQ answer: Prefix isn't showing?

https://luckperms.net/wiki/FAQ#why-are-prefixessuffixes-not-working

List of chat/tablist formatting plugins that work with LuckPerms

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta#displaying-prefixes-and-suffixes

silver trellis Jul 18, 2022, 3:10 PM

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void verge !chat

How can I connect BungeeChat with luckperms?

void verge Jul 18, 2022, 3:10 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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ive never used bungeecord at all so i dont know

silver trellis Jul 18, 2022, 3:11 PM

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hmm'

pulsar nexus Jul 18, 2022, 3:22 PM

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from the homepage it should work with Luckperms

tawny topaz Jul 18, 2022, 3:59 PM

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In my server I use lucky perms but how to turn off inventry after death because whenever we dies inventry items are not lost. Please help me

void verge Jul 18, 2022, 4:00 PM

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tawny topaz In my server I use lucky perms but how to turn off inventry after death because ...

another plugin would be causing that, not luckperms

jolly ivy Jul 18, 2022, 4:42 PM

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Hello, i use luck perm for permision of my server,
I have a probleme, i use mysql for the storage of my data but one colone of one table dosen't actualise.
The table is luckperm_player, the colone is primary_group
When I execute in-game the command /lp user Cleboost info i have my true primary group but not in my database.
Can you help me please ? Ping me for awser
Thank you

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silk crown Jul 18, 2022, 6:50 PM

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Hey, luckperm is compatibles whis flamecord?

quaint idol Jul 18, 2022, 6:53 PM

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I mean LP is compatible with Bungeecord so I assume so, but if FlameCord breaks something that's on their end

silk crown Jul 18, 2022, 6:55 PM

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because it does not launch with flamecord but it works with bungee so I do not see where it comes from

quaint idol Jul 18, 2022, 6:55 PM

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I mean send the error and it might be on LP's end, but I very much doubt it

silk crown Jul 18, 2022, 6:56 PM

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the problem is that i is not even an error it does not load at all, no error no message from lp nothing 😂

quaint idol Jul 18, 2022, 6:57 PM

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sounds like flamecord broke something then

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if it works with bungee and not with flamecord, that's flamecord's problem

silk crown Jul 18, 2022, 6:58 PM

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oh wait I think it's a mistake on my part, I just saw that the developer removed the plugins without telling me I have to see with him

full flume Jul 18, 2022, 7:04 PM

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💀

shadow violet Jul 19, 2022, 4:56 AM

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Trying to get an AFK suffix to show in the tab list when players are AFK but cant seem to get it working.
I'm using the ExtraContexts plugin with %cmi_user_afk%
I've got the context part working I think. When I do /afk, the afk context in the lp user info changes to true. But the Suffix just stays set to None. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

chilly yoke Jul 19, 2022, 4:56 AM

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any one here

quaint idol Jul 19, 2022, 5:00 AM

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Don't crosspost

quaint idol Jul 19, 2022, 5:02 AM

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shadow violet Trying to get an AFK suffix to show in the tab list when players are AFK but can...

Does admin inherit default (either directly or indirectly)? Based off that lp u <> info, the affected user only inherits admin, which seems to suggest admin does not inherit default.

shadow violet Jul 19, 2022, 5:02 AM

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it inherits indirectly through the mod group

quaint idol Jul 19, 2022, 5:03 AM

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hmm that should work then... let's see /lp user <who> meta info pls

chilly yoke Jul 19, 2022, 5:03 AM

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hey

shadow violet Jul 19, 2022, 5:06 AM

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quaint idol hmm that *should* work then... let's see `/lp user <who> meta info` pls

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I also just added a suffix without context to default group to confirm that is working

quaint idol Jul 19, 2022, 5:06 AM

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Ok that confirms they are indeed inheriting the suffix...and you beat me to suggesting that lol

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ok this is rather odd then since that should be working...I'm wondering if it's that specific context, or just context in general that's not working. What happens if you add a suffix with a different context (i.e. world)?

shadow violet Jul 19, 2022, 5:08 AM

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lemme test

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hmm, yeah it works now

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maybe afk is reserved or used by something else & getting confused?

quaint idol Jul 19, 2022, 5:10 AM

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Ok it seems the issue lies with whatever is providing the afk context, although it shouldn't really be possible to have lp u <> i report the player has it, but then it not actually work for nodes...

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What's providing the afk context, do you know?

shadow violet Jul 19, 2022, 5:12 AM

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its the ExtraContexts plugin & that is pulling from a CMI (essentials alternative) placeholder

quaint idol Jul 19, 2022, 5:13 AM

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hmm ok I'm not super familiar w/ ExtraContexts, but it acting up like this isn't something I've seen it do...lemme take a poke at it to see if I can see any potential problems, although I suspect you'll probably need to open an issue

shadow violet Jul 19, 2022, 5:14 AM

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okay 👍

quaint idol Jul 19, 2022, 5:15 AM

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I suppose it's technically possible that something is borked in CMI's PAPI to be causing it, knowing CMI it wouldn't shock me

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but yeah taking a look at the code there's really not much, so I don't see how it could really have broken...so I'm leaning towards CMI's PAPI doing something odd

shadow violet Jul 19, 2022, 5:28 AM

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quaint idol I suppose it's technically possible that something is borked in CMI's PAPI to be...

I think you might be right. just swapped out CMI with EssentialsX & updated the placeholder for ExtraContexts and it's working now

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darn, I like all the features CMI has.

shadow violet Jul 19, 2022, 5:50 AM

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think I can maybe work around it. CMI lets me set custom commands when a player enters & leaves afk. so maybe I can just set it to lp user [playerName] meta setsuffix 1 (afk), then removesuffix when player leaves afk

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eyyy that worked PeepoYAY
ty for helping me narrow it down to CMI bless

gray nymph Jul 19, 2022, 10:47 AM

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any help, I'm trying to add few commands, it states that is working I've added the command through LP editor and through command as OP, however every time I try to use the command after deoping and giving the permission as default it would still say that I do not have permission any help??

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command only works when opped and cant provide permission to anybody else

high raven Jul 19, 2022, 11:10 AM

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i don't think that's the permission

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minecraft.command is the prefix for vanilla command permissions on bukkit servers

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you'd need to look at the pokeplugin's documentation for which permission to give, or use verbose

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!verbose

wintry cloudBOT Jul 19, 2022, 11:10 AM

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🔖 Verbose

LuckPerms provides a verbose command to help you find out what permissions a command/plugin is checking.

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Verbose

gray nymph Jul 19, 2022, 11:18 AM

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i tried using pixelmons Command Node as listed on the mod site, but even then, i already have the Node Added on the editor and still giving me the same issue, it only works for myself when i am opped, (Verbose recognizes de command as Minecraft.command.pokeheal) however i did entered the Nodes given on the site and still does not provide the permission when i take the op out

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only 2 commands from that Mod functions property are those being the minecraft.command.ivs and minecraft.command.evs, i dont know that would be a bug under luckyperms or the mod

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i am able to provide vanilla Minecraft command permissions(Creative, feed...etc), but not from the mod itself

sour gorge Jul 19, 2022, 12:17 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/J78G2ez.png

Imgur

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https://i.imgur.com/aHa3LZA.png

Imgur

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does this not ring a bell?

exotic spear Jul 19, 2022, 3:10 PM

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I created a rank with a prefix and gave it to myself, but I can't see the prefix

gray nymph Jul 19, 2022, 7:00 PM

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sour gorge does this not ring a bell?

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they are both added

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 7:02 PM

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Verbose it

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Are you on Mohist?

thin hollow Jul 19, 2022, 7:03 PM

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guys

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 7:03 PM

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iirc Mohist specifically was being weird with Pixelmon permissions, Arclight worked fine.
But yes, verbose it please

thin hollow Jul 19, 2022, 7:04 PM

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how can i fix this

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 7:04 PM

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1.16 changed a lot of perms, hybrids are gonna be a bit confused

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 7:07 PM

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sour gorge https://i.imgur.com/J78G2ez.png

The Pixelmon Wiki is undergoing changes for 1.16, so certain pages will still be for 1.12. Please make sure people use verbose for Pixelmon permissions if they're on 1.16 for now. (Certain software like Mohist may require additional ones while ones like Arclight will require less)
If people on Mohist are still having issues, suggest they move to Arclight and test that.

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Have people verbose pixelmon perms if they're on 1.16 for any future issue

sour gorge Jul 19, 2022, 7:11 PM

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Yes boss

sour gorge Jul 19, 2022, 7:13 PM

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mighty yarrow The Pixelmon Wiki is undergoing changes for 1.16, so certain pages will still be...

can you combine those 2 messages tho and have it pinned xD no way in hell ill remember this for longer than uhhh what were we talking about again?

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 7:17 PM

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I can't pin but ye

sour gorge Jul 19, 2022, 7:19 PM

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select helpers should get the perm ngl

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opinions tho

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 7:32 PM

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x)

long spoke Jul 19, 2022, 7:38 PM

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Hello, i use luck perm for permision of my server,
I have a probleme, i use mysql for the storage of my data but one colone of one table dosen't actualise.
The table is luckperm_player, the colone is primary_group
When I execute in-game the command /lp user Cleboost info i have my true primary group but not in my database.
Can you help me please ? Ping me for awser
Thank you

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gray nymph Jul 19, 2022, 7:39 PM

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mighty yarrow Are you on Mohist?

i am on mohist

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 7:42 PM

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Yea Mohist will be weird with perms, no clue why it's only them

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!verbose

wintry cloudBOT Jul 19, 2022, 7:42 PM

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🔖 Verbose

LuckPerms provides a verbose command to help you find out what permissions a command/plugin is checking.

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Verbose

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 7:42 PM

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Use this please to find the correct permissions you need

gray nymph Jul 19, 2022, 7:44 PM

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i did recorded using that command and when i uploaded the commands, its records the command node as Minecraft.command.pokeheal which is why i was confused

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there was another command i added such as Ivs and Evs which command node was working as Minecraft.command.ivs/evs but only those 2 worked fine

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would it make a difference if i switch from mohist

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Try Arclight

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And you're sure there's no other permissions missing you saw?

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Also worth stating what Pixelmon version you're on

gray nymph Jul 19, 2022, 7:56 PM

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mighty yarrow And you're sure there's no other permissions missing you saw?

there was more but only a handful that i wanted to add worked but ontop of my head those 2 commands (ivs and evs) worked, ill be trying out arclight aswell, since i never used plugins before

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Pixelmon Version 9.0.5 - forge 1.16.5

tardy glacier Jul 19, 2022, 8:01 PM

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mighty yarrow The Pixelmon Wiki is undergoing changes for 1.16, so certain pages will still be...

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 8:02 PM

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gray nymph Pixelmon Version 9.0.5 - forge 1.16.5

Mkay ye try Arclight then

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THANK YOU ABER VERY COOL

gray nymph Jul 19, 2022, 8:37 PM

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mighty yarrow Mkay ye try Arclight then

Ive added Arclight and transferred the mods and plugins after testing for a while, Arclight Does properly function with all commands for pixelmon

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Appreciate the suggestion there

mighty yarrow Jul 19, 2022, 8:38 PM

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👍

thin hollow Jul 20, 2022, 9:13 AM

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guys

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i am using Luckperms chat and clanlite and on chat i would like to see player's clan

tidal blade Jul 20, 2022, 9:15 AM

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This is not LuckpermsChat Support. LuckpermsChat is not an official luckperms plugin

thin hollow Jul 20, 2022, 9:15 AM

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oh

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yes

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but does LPC have an discord

lost blaze Jul 20, 2022, 9:17 AM

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shrugging

tidal blade Jul 20, 2022, 9:25 AM

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🤷

junior mountain Jul 20, 2022, 4:00 PM

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i have a question

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what is the command to add several groups to a person and have them bean in the tab?

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?

quaint skiff Jul 20, 2022, 4:23 PM

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hello so i am using luck perms for 1.12.2 version of pixelmon but the perm nodes arent showing up?

void verge Jul 20, 2022, 4:26 PM

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quaint skiff hello so i am using luck perms for 1.12.2 version of pixelmon but the perm nodes...

like they arent showing up in the suggestions?

quaint skiff Jul 20, 2022, 4:27 PM

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so when i click the search bar they dont show up

void verge Jul 20, 2022, 4:27 PM

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the search bar in the editor?

quaint skiff Jul 20, 2022, 4:27 PM

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yeah

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i have few like it

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for some reason

void verge Jul 20, 2022, 4:28 PM

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have you added the permissions you are searching for to any users or groups?

quaint skiff Jul 20, 2022, 4:28 PM

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no we cant find them

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at all

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void verge Jul 20, 2022, 4:29 PM

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at the top or the bottom of the editor

quaint skiff Jul 20, 2022, 4:29 PM

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neither

void verge Jul 20, 2022, 4:30 PM

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luckythonk

quaint skiff Jul 20, 2022, 4:30 PM

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if needed i can join a vc and share my screen

void verge Jul 20, 2022, 4:31 PM

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there is a search bar ar the very top of the editor and there is the place to type permissions at the bottom

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which are you using

quaint skiff Jul 20, 2022, 4:31 PM

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the bottom one

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i want to add perms

void verge Jul 20, 2022, 4:32 PM

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the suggestions are only suggestions

quaint skiff Jul 20, 2022, 4:32 PM

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they were showing them before but arent now for some reasons

void verge Jul 20, 2022, 4:32 PM

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if you know what you want to add, just type it manually or paste it

sour gorge Jul 20, 2022, 4:33 PM

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you could also just trigger a lookup

quaint skiff Jul 20, 2022, 4:33 PM

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is that with verbose?

sour gorge Jul 20, 2022, 4:34 PM

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no. luckperms add permissions to the suggestions list only when the permission was triggered before. meaning using some commands while not being opped ingame and letting them fail will cause luckperms to 'see' the permissions and add them to the suggestions usually

quaint skiff Jul 20, 2022, 4:34 PM

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ah okay thank you

prisma hinge Jul 20, 2022, 11:29 PM

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Hi, i cant create mysql conenction between lp and remote mysql server.

 java.util.concurrent.CompletionException: java.sql.SQLTransientConnectionException: luckperms-hikari - Connection is not available, request timed out after 5000ms.

Note: I can connect to mysql server through vscode client

Logs: https://pastebin.com/ACyeitry

Pastebin

[01:52:47 INFO]: [LuckPerms] Enabling LuckPerms v5.4.30[01:52:47 IN...

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

wintry cloudBOT Jul 20, 2022, 11:29 PM

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LuckPerms cannot connect to your MySQL server

mighty spear Jul 21, 2022, 12:20 AM

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^^

mighty spear Jul 21, 2022, 12:21 AM

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prisma hinge https://pastes.dev/WQHkMaccin Help me

Also, sidenote, you're running your server as root, which is probably not a good thing. It means if your server is exploited / vulnerable to a security bug, the attacker can take over the entire machine, not just the Minecraft server

prisma hinge Jul 21, 2022, 12:23 AM

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mighty spear `Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Reading from nio:/root/Roleplay/plu...

Oh, alr

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do you know what caused this?

mighty spear Jul 21, 2022, 12:27 AM

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Hard to say really. Common causes would be, force stopping (/ "Killing") your server, or if your PC/host machine itself shut off unexpectedly, or maybe a failing disk

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Anything that means the server might not be able to write the database file out properly

dense kite Jul 21, 2022, 12:27 AM

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(crosspost btw, there's an active thread for this issue)

mighty spear Jul 21, 2022, 12:27 AM

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Ah didn't see that... thanks for letting me know

exotic panther Jul 21, 2022, 12:31 AM

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Hello! So I currently installed LuckPerms to my modded pixelmon server, I added it and it not working, commands aint working in it, anybody know why?

mighty yarrow Jul 21, 2022, 12:36 AM

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!nw

wintry cloudBOT Jul 21, 2022, 12:36 AM

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Please tell us what's going on!

We really would absolutely love to help you out! However, telling us that it isn't working wastes everyone's time. Please, just describe the issue you're having clearly and with as much detail as possible, and send any relevant screenshots of whatever problems you're having.

For Console Errors:

https://pastes.dev/

prisma hinge Jul 21, 2022, 8:51 AM

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prisma hinge Hi, i cant create mysql conenction between lp and remote mysql server. ``` java...

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frank cape Jul 21, 2022, 8:51 AM

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hey
how to display ranks in server
by the way i m a new player who was setting a minecraft server
however i managed to set ranks
but it is not displaying in server
anyone who knows this how to fix ?

lost blaze Jul 21, 2022, 8:55 AM

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Yes

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LuckPerms just sets the "ranks" it doesn't show them anywhere

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To show them in chat you'd need a chat plugin, for tablist you'd need a tablist plugin

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Some examples are in the 2nd link
Deleting a request should delete the canned response imo

wintry cloudBOT Jul 21, 2022, 8:56 AM

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🔖 Prefixes, Suffixes & Meta

You can set prefixes, suffixes and other meta data in LuckPerms for players and groups. Note that LuckPerms does not manage chat. You need to use another plugin to show prefixes/suffixes in chat.

lost blaze Jul 21, 2022, 8:56 AM

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!chat this one

wintry cloudBOT Jul 21, 2022, 8:56 AM

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LuckPerms does not perform any chat/tablist formatting of its own!

LuckPerms only acts as the source for prefixes / suffixes, it doesn't actually apply them. You need an appropriately configured chat/tablist formatting plugin for them to be displayed. If the values appear correctly when you run /lp user <user> info, LuckPerms is doing its job!

FAQ answer: Prefix isn't showing?

https://luckperms.net/wiki/FAQ#why-are-prefixessuffixes-not-working

List of chat/tablist formatting plugins that work with LuckPerms

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta#displaying-prefixes-and-suffixes

frank cape Jul 21, 2022, 9:01 AM

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lost blaze !chat this one

i have essentials

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in my server

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vault too

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now what to do?

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any idea?

lost blaze Jul 21, 2022, 9:02 AM

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Learn to use the space bar instead of the enter key

frank cape Jul 21, 2022, 9:02 AM

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xD

lost blaze Jul 21, 2022, 9:02 AM

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Install EssentialsChat

frank cape Jul 21, 2022, 9:03 AM

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will it automatic display then?

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lemme install essential chat into the server

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i hope it works

lost blaze Jul 21, 2022, 9:03 AM

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Yes

prisma hinge Jul 21, 2022, 10:03 AM

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Hi, i know it's safe to ignore but i would like to report this warning

[09:54:13 WARN]: [PlaceholderAPI] Loaded class net.luckperms.api.LuckPerms from LuckPerms v5.4.26 which is not a depend or softdepend of this plugin.

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[10:03:27 INFO]: LuckPerms version 5.4.26
[10:03:27 INFO]: A permissions plugin
[10:03:27 INFO]: Website: https://luckperms.net
[10:03:27 INFO]: Author: Luck
[10:03:29 INFO]: PlaceholderAPI version 2.11.2
[10:03:29 INFO]: An awesome placeholder provider!
[10:03:29 INFO]: Author: HelpChat

lost blaze Jul 21, 2022, 10:04 AM

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See the [PlaceholderAPI]?

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Means that message comes from them

daring stirrup Jul 21, 2022, 10:04 AM

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you can also ignore it

lost blaze Jul 21, 2022, 10:04 AM

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Also nothing short of EVERY plugin that hooks into PAPI being added to it's plugin.yml would remove that message ||iirc||

prisma hinge Jul 21, 2022, 11:16 AM

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lost blaze Means that message comes from them

yeah but reason of the message is luckperms isn't softdepend to PAPI but uses their lib

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so afaik luckperms would soft depend to PAPI

lost blaze Jul 21, 2022, 11:17 AM

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Yeah, but there is nothing LP can do about it

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No

prisma hinge Jul 21, 2022, 11:17 AM

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why?

lost blaze Jul 21, 2022, 11:17 AM

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Read the message carefully

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PlaceholderAPI Loaded a class from LuckPerms which is not a depend or softdepend of this plugin (PlaceholderAPI).

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PlaceholderAPI loaded a class from LUCKPERMS, which isn't marked as a depend in PLACEHOLDERAPI

prisma hinge Jul 21, 2022, 1:18 PM

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prisma hinge Hi, i cant create mysql conenction between lp and remote mysql server. ``` java...

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daring stirrup Jul 21, 2022, 1:24 PM

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are you using pterodactyl

prisma hinge Jul 21, 2022, 1:26 PM

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daring stirrup are you using pterodactyl

idk i have mysql server on hosting

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BRUH

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useSSL: false

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yesterday this option didnt help

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now looks like everything is working...

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there is no point

tawdry pulsar Jul 22, 2022, 12:28 AM

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Hi, I want to reset everyones vote ranks, therefore remove everyone from groups within my specific vote track. How do I do this? So that i kick out everyone from groups within those tracks?

quaint idol Jul 22, 2022, 12:28 AM

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!bulk unfortunately you can't easily clear everyone from a track, but you can easily remove everyone from individual groups. permission to clear is group.<GROUP NAME>

wintry cloudBOT Jul 22, 2022, 12:28 AM

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🔖 Bulk Editing

Quickly update a large amount of user and group permissions by using the bulkupdate command.

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Bulk-Editing

tawdry pulsar Jul 22, 2022, 12:32 AM

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Oh thanks a lot, that helps! So if i understand correctly it would be

/lp bulkupdate all delete "permission == group.examplegroup"

And it would clear out everyone that has that permission WITHOUT deleting or harming the group content(?)

People are able to join the groups after this command was run?

quaint idol Jul 22, 2022, 12:33 AM

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Correct, although I'd swap all for users, that way any groups that have the group as a parent group won't also get cleared

tawdry pulsar Jul 22, 2022, 12:33 AM

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Okey thanks!

quaint idol Jul 22, 2022, 12:34 AM

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Also bulkupdate is a destructive action, so take a backup before running it just in case something goes wrong

tawdry pulsar Jul 22, 2022, 12:34 AM

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oh phew that was close 😳

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im in the console atm haha

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Alr alr

quaint idol Jul 22, 2022, 12:35 AM

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9/10 times it's fine, but it's possible with that command to delete all LP data, so just in case something goes wrong you don't want to be in that situation

tawdry pulsar Jul 22, 2022, 12:35 AM

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yeah true true, ill make sure to backup before then ChillBar_thumbsup