Still. That itself is not YAML
#general
drowsy quest
rigid widget
indeed
gilded nova
. _.
short warren
lmfao
drowsy quest
Oh boy
gilded nova
base 16 numbers
short warren
like #ffffff or something else
gilded nova
I mean... they're just numbers... the same ones we use every day but in another "format"
short warren
oh yeah they are like that
light echo
what is a really good scoreboard plugin
short warren
TAB
short warren
oh shit i read that wrong
scoreboards are so annoying that i forgot about them, but i guess featherboard is good
ive seen a few people using it
sudden ice
that's pog
ashen nacelle
quick question what would the perm be to give fly in a web store? give {name} essentials.fly or is that wrong?
short warren
200$ lp editor when?
rigid widget
depends on the webstore, and if you're giving that perms using LP
short warren
but essentials.fly would be correct for essentials
rigid widget
lp user {name} permission set essentials.fly for tebex iirc
short warren
also giving a /fly could be against mojang tos for anything other than hub servers
ashen nacelle
ok thats what I am using is tebex
short warren
dont you need a true at the end?
ashen nacelle
lol tell hypixel that they charge for fly
rigid widget
no true at the end
gilded nova
you don't need to specify the value
short warren
lol tell hypixel that they charge for fly
@ashen nacelle they only use it on hub servers
rigid widget
it defaults to true
short warren
oh cool, ive been adding true
/fly is an advantage in survival gamemodes and therefore probably not allowed
but most other things fly is okay to charge for
like creative
gilded nova
you can also do lp i for lp info, lp g/u <group/user> i for lp group/user <group/user> info and lp g/u <group/user> p for lp group/user <group/user> permission (which you can add i at the end so it ends up like permission info)
drowsy quest
Fly is ok in lobbies
short warren
yeah, thats what i said
drowsy quest
Just not in any kind of gamemode where it affects gameplay
ashen nacelle
but with a rank they include fly
ashen nacelle
skyblock I mean alot of servers are like that
short warren
yeah thats against tos
ashen nacelle
tos?
gilded nova
the eula
short warren
terms of service and eula
short warren
most servers
ashen nacelle
every single server I have been on charges for fly
short warren
i mean theres quite a few like https://store.medieval-vanilla.com/ but not that many
ashen nacelle
mineheroes
short warren
lmao, the eula doesnt a purchasable perk that gives an ingame advantage
simple as that
its up to you if you want to follow it, but thats what is legally required
ashen nacelle
the one u just posted charges for fly in last rank
ashen nacelle
I give free ranks when u join on my server
short warren
I give free ranks when u join on my server
@ashen nacelle so then its not really a rank if its free?
i mean it is, but if its free its not against tos
ashen nacelle
no its a free rank with tag and all
short warren
alright, so then your good if you include the fly command in that, but nothing else
short warren
nah already did
sudden ice
Oh
rigid widget
@short warren I have a server that could use a boost if youre really looking hard 
rigid widget
You might also actually enjoy the server and spend time there idk man it's kinda designed for it
sudden ice
Does anyone have jokes that I can put on my bot
rigid widget
Google cheesy jokes
short warren
Ur mom
rigid widget
And. There's a site
drowsy quest
@short warren
short warren
Repeat for Every relative
rigid widget
Not nice :(
sleek niche
Brain, did you accidently send a mention or what?
rigid widget
Lol he pulled a Tobi
short warren
Nice
sudden ice
That was good
bold sparrow
Yummy
sudden ice
Medium rare gang
sudden ice
Damn
short warren
Never had steak, but medium rare looks the best
sudden ice
My aunt eats well done steak and it disgusts me
bold sparrow
My aunt eats well done steak and it disgusts me
That’s like eating leather
sudden ice
You feel like you’re chewing for 10 years
bold sparrow
That’s gross
Do you have any preferred sauce on your steak?
Or just without sauce
normal surge
i think mustard goes pretty well with steak; not american yellow mustard but real mustard
горчица
forest helm
@bold sparrow take a look at #welcome, specifically the part where it says Don't PM anyone for help. your nick kinda goes against that
sudden ice
Do you have any preferred sauce on your steak?
@bold sparrow i like the taste of the steak itself and i dont like to put anything on it
but
a.1 sometimes
bold sparrow
Use IntelliJ’s debug feature
clever swan
yeah im trying that rn
lets hope it works
nothing wrong with it
still doesnt work :/
bold sparrow
boolean containsKey(Object key)
Returns true if this map contains a mapping for the specified key. More formally, returns true if and only if this map contains a mapping for a key k such that (key==null ? k==null : key.equals(k)). (There can be at most one such mapping.)
Parameters:
key - key whose presence in this map is to be tested
Returns:
true if this map contains a mapping for the specified key
Throws:
ClassCastException - if the key is of an inappropriate type for this map (optional)
NullPointerException - if the specified key is null and this map does not permit null keys (optional)```Last sentence
gilded nova
How do i remove this https://gyazo.com/3d662fd32c4f3f7fca45b778f1bc6be5
the .level.65
I want it to show https://gyazo.com/63087c2e91894e419f3f799da873989f
That's client side
bold sparrow
Impossible pretty sure
gilded nova
How is it possible haha
You'd need to make your own client/mod
this server has it
and its the same client
short warren
its not possible unless you make insane cool client
clever swan
@bold sparrow, so how exactly would i fix it? I've never encountered this error before
gilded nova
It probably makes it with lores
short warren
yeah lores are the best alternative
gilded nova
Rename?
What?
just make it eff 10 and you're good
@clever swan They are kits
Fefo how do i set a lore
gilded nova
bold sparrow
@bold sparrow, so how exactly would i fix it? I've never encountered this error before
Well, it means yourplayer.getUniqueIdis null
Double check that
gilded nova
If that returns null, means the player never joined before (or the .dat file was deleted for that matter)
bold sparrow
^
gilded nova
You have OfflinePlayer#hasJoinedBefore() to check that (I think that's the name)
bold sparrow
Yea debug that TheShinyLizard, if that doesnt work come back to us again
clever swan
👍 will do ty
bold sparrow
Alr
clever swan
ah I found something
package net.milkbowl.vault.economy does not exist
I imported VaultAPI
I don't know why it says it doesnt exist
rigid widget
Yeah
gilded nova
But in the API
rigid widget
Eco is vault
rigid widget
I believe so, as Permission is a thing and Economy is equivalent
clever swan
^
rigid widget
I forget the fancy name for it though
rigid widget
Corrupt jar?
clever swan
dobut it
rigid widget
Or you used the api right and don't have vault on the test server
gilded nova
Sounds like a compile error
clever swan
gilded nova
!paste your pom I guess?
outer vesselBOT
bold sparrow
I know too little of Java imports to say with certainty but maybe this is unrelated to your error?
clever swan
I know too little of Java imports to say with certainty but maybe this is unrelated to your error?
@bold sparrow it is
bold sparrow
Ah alr
clever swan
because thats how it gets the playerBank info
bold sparrow
Ahhhhhh
gilded nova
You never imported VaultAPI...
bold sparrow
Didn’t know that
clever swan
clever swan
holy shit...
bold sparrow
You need to add vaultapit to your dependencies amirite
gilded nova
Now use that brain of yours and merge this with your current pom.xml
<repositories>
<repository>
<id>jitpack.io</id>
<url>https://jitpack.io</url>
</repository>
</repositories>
<dependencies>
<dependency>
<groupId>com.github.MilkBowl</groupId>
<artifactId>VaultAPI</artifactId>
<version>1.7</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
</dependencies>
:p
bold sparrow
Gradle is cute to use too
gilded nova
You straight up pasted what I shared right in the middle lol
You need to merge the parts into the appropriate tags
Not just paste it anywhere lol
short warren
what kind of attendence quiz is this
even people who were there wont remember that
i dont even remember there being a star
sudden ice
😕
short warren
im watching the recording right now and there is literally no star
oh nevermind its halfway through
clever swan
Fefo i really dont know how tf i should import this i copied what i did last time
gilded nova
Copy what's inside the dependencies tag into the dependencies tag of your pom
And what's in the repositories tag into the repositories tag of your pom
outer vesselBOT
sudden ice
Hi fefo hru
gilded nova
Copy what's inside the dependencies tag into the dependencies tag of your pom
And what's in the repositories tag into the repositories tag of your pom
clever swan
ight ill try again
pog i did it ty
back to square one, im still getting that error
sudden ice
Oof
clever swan
I debugged, no errors
gilded nova
Did you refresh your project?
clever swan
gilded nova
Where exactly are you getting the error?
clever swan
console
gilded nova
Screenshot
gilded nova
I thought you were talking about the unknown package error 🤦♂️
What's in that line of your project?
clever swan
gilded nova
Either you never give plugin a value or you never give playerBank a value
forest helm
How is plugin defined?
gilded nova
Or player can be null as well
forest helm
Actually can you send both your command class and your main class, I have a theory
(via some sort of paste site ofc)
Since I think the issue was still present yesterday or whenever it was
gilded nova
Or player can be null as well
Depends on how you're getting it
forest helm
No don't think that's it fefo
forest helm
I know with 90% certainty which one it is, I just need those classes to confirm
@clever swan ^ Your main class and your command class
gilded nova
I get what you mean but just from reading that line alone, that's all you can fully extract with "null pointer except"
ion*
clever swan
_11 want me to send both?
clever swan
ok
package flameduder.dudercookie;
import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin;
import java.util.HashMap;
import java.util.UUID;
public final class DuderCookie extends JavaPlugin {
private static DuderCookie instance;
public static DuderCookie getInstance() {
return instance;
}
public EconomyImplementer economyImplementer;
private VaultHook vaultHook;
public final HashMap<UUID,Double> playerBank = new HashMap<>();
@Override
public void onEnable() {
getCommand("cc").setExecutor(new GUI());
getCommand("econo").setExecutor(new EconomyCommands());
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new ClickEvent(), this);
instanceClasses();
vaultHook.hook();
}
private void instanceClasses(){
instance = this;
economyImplementer = new EconomyImplementer();
vaultHook = new VaultHook();
}
@Override
public void onDisable() {
// Plugin shutdown logic
System.out.println("Disabling DuderCookie");
vaultHook.unhook();
}
}
(via some sort of paste site ofc)
forest helm
Didn't I specifically say via a paste site?
gilded nova
xD
forest helm
ok wasn't quite what I thought, but I was close
Order of operations matters
How is EconomyCommands going to pull instance from the main class if you don't call instanceClasses() until after it's been instantized?
sudden ice
guys i fucking did it
forest helm
I'm not sure what you did, but gj nonetheless lol
sudden ice
ok
forest helm
gilded nova
👀 - e
forest helm
Fefo, I don't have math until 3rd quarter. Don't scare me like that
sudden ice
clever swan
How is EconomyCommands going to pull
instancefrom the main class if you don't callinstanceClasses()until after it's been instantized?
@forest helm what would u recommend me to do?
outer vesselBOT
Hey TheShinyLizard! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.
short warren
gfuel lmao
sudden ice
lmao
short warren
thats disgusting
sudden ice
ikr
short warren
36 dollars for that too?
forest helm
@clever swan Think about it logically. What would be a simple solution to things not being called in the right order that requires you to do all of moving a single line
sudden ice
$35.99 per tub
gilded nova
Brian
sudden ice
but hey i didnt pay for it @short warren
all i did was ask someone if they could get it for me
and like
they legit
sent me $120
short warren
lmao
forest helm
sudden ice
xD
gilded nova
Is there a way for me to make it so when players join my discord they earn a prefix on my server? Or would I have to do it manually for everyone?
forest helm
Do you have DiscordSRV?
If so, ask people to run /discord link ingame when they join the guild. Then, do /lp group default parent add <the rank> discordsrv:linked=true
gilded nova
oh thank you :)
forest helm
also should you wish to give other perks ingame via LP on boost, there's a discordsrv:boosting=true context
(i.e. /lp group default parent add <some donor rank> discordsrv:boosting=true)
outer vesselBOT
clever swan
!hastebin
outer vesselBOT
Sorry! I do not understand the command !hastebin
Type !help for a list of commands.
gilded nova
Order of operations matters
How is EconomyCommands going to pull
instancefrom the main class if you don't callinstanceClasses()until after it's been instantized?
Think about it logically. What would be a simple solution to things not being called in the right order that requires you to do all of moving a single line
gilded nova
show me your current onEnable
clever swan
gilded nova
it's in there you need to change things
clever swan
?
forest helm
Think about this
clever swan
there ya go
@forest helm i was so excited
outer vesselBOT
Hey TheShinyLizard! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.
forest helm
EconomyCommands needs instance. instanceClasses() does the initial set of instance. instanceClasses() is ran second.
sudden ice
what plugin are u coding
forest helm
I'm not sure how to make this more simple without spoonfeeding it to you
Think about where instance is set. Think about where the line that NPE's is first called
clever swan
Don't spoon-feed
gilded nova
inside your onEnable
clever swan
I'm just tilted
forest helm
this is as simple as moving a single line
gilded nova
it's in there you need to change things
forest helm
What do you think the issue was so I can tell you if you're right
misty cradle
no
misty cradle
how can you call something from instance, when instance isn't initialized yet
clever swan
Ight imma go to sleep if I'm wrong i need more brain cells
forest helm
Nick's right, that isn't it.
hint: IJ is telling you that line is wrong for a reason
you added that line even though I told you that you only needed to move a line
misty cradle
So, the line IJ is highlighting is actually saying that its used without using its return value
surprisingly, it's not highlighting the null
clever swan
Time to hop back on and try to fix it
misty cradle
let's ask this really quick, as this may help
misty cradle
do you know of this. syntax?
forest helm
yes
clever swan
quick question because im stupid
public void onEnable() {
runOnEnable();
}```
hypothetically if i were to do this public void runOnEnable(){
instanceClasses();
vaultHook.hook();
this.getCommand("econo").setExecutor(new EconomyCommands());
}```
would it work?well, yes
forest helm
That fixes the issue, but not because you moved it to another method
there is zero point in having a second method
clever swan
so I should just keep it as is?
misty cradle
not exactly
forest helm
compare the current onEnable and that new method
misty cradle
^
clever swan
clever swan
you're shitting me?
misty cradle
nope
forest helm
think about what you changed
clever swan
OMG THATS RIGHT
gilded nova
xDDDDDD
clever swan
I FORGOT I ADDED THE getCommand and getServer
forest helm
...
misty cradle
clearly we aren't getting far so I'm just gonna say it
vast isle
okay what is it?
clever swan
okay what is it?
@vast isle me going to sleep gn
misty cradle
guess he'll never learn
vast isle
and this mess goes on for yet another day
forest helm
For reference, this is an insanely simple issue and I've practically spoonfed it to you. I'm not sure how you expect to have a full economy plugin if you make simple logic errors like this
clever swan
agreed
Which is why I'm no longer going to be asking for help and just read stuff from now on until my head hurts
misty cradle
that is an absolutely terrible strategy
short warren
lmao i clicked on that thinking it was a video
Can any of you with a proxy answer this question i asked on velocity's discord?
probably a stupid question, but if i wanted to ban someone while using velocity, i couldnt just use like essentials right because then they would still be allowed in other servers?
misty cradle
I mean, all depends on your setup
but if you are banning from a specific server and bans aren't synced, then yes, the player can access the other servers
modest compass
Essentials doesn’t have sync ability so you can’t, yea
unless you use a third party sql database add on
short warren
what plugins can i use to sync bans or is there a velocity plugin that can handle it?
misty cradle
well, if you're using strictly spigot, I'd look at ban management, I think that's the name at least
if you're mixing server types, I'd find something built on Velocity
forest helm
there's something...litebans or something? it's paid but I've heard it's really good
dbo 👀
I mean by virtue of it being on DBO, maybe lol
I sure as hell wouldn't download something I run on my server on a site that doesn't even have basic standard end-to-end encryption
short warren
anything that supports 1.16?
modest compass
Honestly it should without an update like luckperms
modest compass
Bcu I don’t think a ban plugin should be version dependent?
forest helm
most things that work on 1.15 that don't interact with game things shouldn't have any issue on 1.16
actually same for 1.14 --> 1.16
potent prawn
some reason it isn't listing anyone when i look up members with Server Booster role
weird
gilded nova
LMAO
short warren
Lmao
potent prawn
sorry person named server
gilded nova
What do people here think of other permission management plugins (ex. PowerRanks). Are people neutral about them or see it as a competition.
I know that this is more stable and has more features, but I don't know which one to choose.
potent prawn
you're only going to get a biased opinion on the matter in here :P
gilded nova
I expect that ;)
I asked the same question in the PowerRanks Discord and they told me to look at the features of both and decide on that.
"Just use what you want to use".
But here I found this "powerranks is a disaster waiting to happen" which I think is funny because it is growing quite fast.
potent prawn
honestly i have no knowledge on power ranks
vocal rivet
Try both out and decide what you like more, but honestly I suggest you to rather use LuckPerms, since it is stable and has a big community behind it that all trust in it and use it on daily basis
gilded nova
I was searching for a permissions plugin with a web editor, it turns out that both have that.
I've tried the demo of both, but the on of PR seems (too?) simplistic but has all it's features. And the LP web editor gives me the Easy to use, hard to master feeling. But both seem like solid plugins And i just don't know which one to use.
vocal rivet
Ah now I remember, the horrible web editor
gilded nova
"the horrible"?
potent prawn
is that the one that i keep being linked to? the one with the horrid bootstrap theme? lol
vocal rivet
yee
potent prawn
Static - there isn't really anything difficult to master with the LP web editor
but that could also be a biased opinion, since i built the thing 😆
gilded nova
It just seems so overwhelming the first time I opened it.
gilded nova
Why would you even and to edit configuration on mobile devices, the server runs on PC the game runs on PC so I get that decision.
potent prawn
i wondered the same thing... turns out a lot of people like to edit on the go
vocal rivet
Its just lazy to not build mobile optimization
potent prawn
and yeah, of course it will be slightly overwhelming if you haven't used it before
vocal rivet
What ben sent in happens everywhere, boxes arent sized properly, break word is messed up beyond belief, and the best part is, those aren't bugs you just oversee while making it, he either saw that and decided to not fix it or uploaded it without any checking whatsoever
potent prawn
not to mention, it's been in this state for a while
vocal rivet
at least 3 months
potent prawn
i remember seeing that many months ago
modest compass
doesnt need 3 months to fix a table formatting unless the dev really have no clue how to
potent prawn
although tbf it did take me a while to get the LP editor to a usable state haha
vocal rivet
did you release the web editor before it was working?
gilded nova
I get that there are bugs on PowerRanks side, he is a solo dev with no programming background (he said).
But you're right, I will just try them both and make a decision based on that.
vocal rivet
Turbo also made the web editor single handedly haha
just a few small PRs, but most work is made by Turbo alone
sudden ice
hello rainbow dash
vocal rivet
the only difference is that Turbo made the web editor and Luck made the plugin
modest compass
i mean before v4 luck made the editor as well right?
vocal rivet
Sup Zaid
gilded nova
Are there any advantages on making LP open-source?
I asked the PR dev but he said he has no reason to do so.
potent prawn
looking at power ranks resource page, it seems really basic. if that's what you're after then sure, go ahead and install it. LP offers the same features but a whole lot more, which means you will have plenty of room for expansion in the future (although you can also import your powerranks configuration into LP if you do decide to switch at any point in time).
open source plugins generally have more security, in that if the developer goes AWOL then someone else can fork the code and continue to update it if necessary
plus it lets other people contribute easily
vocal rivet
OpenSource means that everyone can look at the code and would be able to see any backdoors, also the community support is higher (just look at the community PRs, a lot of things have been done by the community which they wouldn't been able to if LP wasnt OSS)
modest compass
also give transparency, aand that the dev didnt add some unwanted code that he wants to hide from others
potent prawn
yup, plenty of closed source plugins that do that unfortunately
modest compass
unless its a paid plugins, no reason not be open source
vocal rivet
In my eyes the only reason for closed source is:
- The project gets sold
- There are backdoors
- The developer is not statisfied with his own code
modest compass
the only valid one is if its a good premium plugin that is paid
gilded nova
The community here seems more mature(?)
PR's communtiy feels like a bunch of scriptkiddies wanting to make servers.
I asked the PR dev again and he said that he had a lot of issues in the past when PR was opensource. Copies were published and he got tired of that. But he said that it will be open-source if he cleaned the full plugin.
vocal rivet
Even some premium plugins are OSS, you pay for the pre-built binary and the support, you wont get that ehen you built it yourself
Ha! Told ya, he isnt statisfied with his own code haha
potent prawn
The community here seems more mature
lol, that's one way to put it. a lot of us are in our 20s (I'm 30)
vocal rivet
22 here
modest compass
im not even 20 oop
potent prawn
but at least you're mature :P
modest compass
😉
vocal rivet
Go to bed ben, you youngsters need sleep ;p
modest compass
buts its... afternoon for me lol
vocal rivet
No discussion, bed time :3
vocal rivet
12...
gilded nova
That's not even legal to be on Discord
vocal rivet
lots of those aint even allowed to use discord on their own
modest compass
i cant imagine my 12 years old self creating a mc server
vocal rivet
I kinda also did that with 12.. I was always curious 👉 👈
potent prawn
asking people their age online is bound to get a bunch of false answers lol
i definitely was lying about my age when i was much younger lol
gilded nova
Shocked 😛
vocal rivet
How old are you?
Me: Turned 18 just today, what a coincidence haha
sudden ice
xD
vocal rivet
Or when you were born back in 1900
potent prawn
well i am just glad you're not considering pex
sudden ice
yo guys i was born in 1876
potent prawn
i wonder if a bootleg pex discord exists
gilded nova
Is that still a thing?
vocal rivet
Yes and no
potent prawn
well pex 2 is in development, but not ready for production servers
pex 1 is horridly out of date and unsupported
yet people still swear by it being the greatest permission plugin
vocal rivet
I will still settle with LP even if they release PEX 2
potent prawn
despite its flaws
vocal rivet
Unless i make my own permission system
gilded nova
I know that LP is the number one right now, PR sits between PEX and LP but get's closed to the LP side .
I am curious if a single developer that does the whole package can even keep up.
potent prawn
i mean Luck basically made the whole thing himself
the old editor was made by him
i just came in and helped make a more modern version lol
he pretty much just focuses on the plugin now
not many people contribute to it
vocal rivet
I don't see PR getting anywhere near LP in the near future no offense
gilded nova
I don't see PR getting anywhere near LP in the near future no offense
Me neither, but nonetheless it would be fun
vocal rivet
Also Live data, would love his his data processing works, because ya know GDPR
gilded nova
What do you mean by Live Data?
vocal rivet
As soon as they release PEX 2 turbo will make a pex editor I bet
The demo is suggesting that the editor is loading data live from a server
And I will make a editor for it.. in P-H-P
vocal rivet
Time to look at the SC
potent prawn
so is LP editor :P
vocal rivet
PHP is a long lastinf language that still gets updates, currently PHP8 is in development which I can't wait for
gilded nova
PR Editor It's literally a bootstrap theme that just got slapped in the face with PR.
vocal rivet
The designs are horrible, the only good thing from it is the grid system
potent prawn
looking at the code for that thing made my eyes twitch
gilded nova
Again, he has not programming background at all. I think it's impressive, even if it's just some features baked together.
It get's the job done.
vocal rivet
Fo you need a hug Turbo?
If he has no programming background, he should learn it rather then releasing something with so many bugs
gilded nova
Haven't seen any bugs yet and I am trying it out right now.
vocal rivet
well I shouldnt open my mouth so wide, I made a GMod MySQL syncronization as first project
ben sent a screenshot in where you could at least see 3 bugs not even 30 minutes ago
gilded nova
Screenshot? Now I am curious, if there are too many bugs in PR I will switch to LP.
vocal rivet
The editor at least has a ton of bugs, can't say anything about the plugin
Hand on your heart, Are you the PR developer?
potent prawn
lol
gilded nova
Do you think that?
vocal rivet
Well, could be
What you said so far suggests that you have advanced background knowledge
gilded nova
No I am not, but I do know him irl.
vocal rivet
I was so close haha
north lantern
I think I should apologise.
I asked @gilded nova to see if LP even knew PR but it got way to indepth.
potent prawn
the great detective, rainbow dash
gilded nova
Yeah I think it was going well.
potent prawn
ohh, hello!
north lantern
Hello!
potent prawn
i hope my comments didn't offend, heh
vocal rivet
Superoo
north lantern
Yeah I am the actual PR dev.
And no you didn't offend me i see it as advice that I have much to learn
I kind of look up to LP because it has features I can only dream about implementing.
But again, sorry for bringing PR as a topic here, I just was curious.
vocal rivet
It takes patience, a open mind and work to implement the same feature set
Please, I am begging you, fix the break word from the editor
north lantern
What do you mean by that?
vocal rivet
In some boxes the text just goes out of bounds rather then stay in the box and start a new line
that table is out of bounds for the parent box, that shouldnt happen
north lantern
Yeah I should have seen that comment comming, I am developing on a 21:9 screen I don't have any web development background so I will fix it.
But I really want to move away from bootstrap, I agree with turbo, it's terrible.
vocal rivet
to fix it you could either make the parent box scrollable or make the table smaller
Grid system yes, bootstrap themes, hard no
potent prawn
there is no need to apologise btw, we welcome any discussion here as long as it follows the rules 😁
vocal rivet
You could for example look at AdminLTE for a good start
north lantern
Grid system yes, bootstrap themes, hard no
@vocal rivet Currently can't afford a better theme because the profix of PowerRanks is close (if not) $0 and have way to little experience in web development to make my own xD
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vocal rivet
AdminLTE is free
north lantern
"AdminLTE Bootstrap Admin Dashboard Template"
vocal rivet
it has some paid themes but the default is already a good basis to build on
A lot of projects use it, pterodactyl for example or Gitbucket
north lantern
Maybe you're right
vocal rivet
O don't know what turbo thinks of it (Since it uses both Bootstrap and jQuery xD) but for me that is one of the very few exceptions of a great bootstrap theme that just works
potent prawn
not a fan of anything that isn't self-built lol
north lantern
I use Jquery because people wanted an web editor like LP for PowerRanks to get it available ASAP that's why the beta banner is on there,
I wasn't even planning for a web editor.
vocal rivet
and idk if you know Pterodactyl or GitBucket, but they both use it as their design
north lantern
not a fan of anything that isn't self-built lol
I agree with that, but it's easy to use a template for a demo (or even a beta)
potent prawn
that's fair enough. i say focus on what you want to improve the most
vocal rivet
Well if you build everything ever yourself, you won't ever be finished tbh xP
sudden ice
Imagine being able to code
north lantern
focus on what you want to improve the most
The horrible PowerRanks core xD
The only reason PR is not open source is because it started okay but I just slapped new features in it as people request.
I mean it works, but am I proud? absolutely not.
I was scared of open-source because people could steal my code, but who cares about PR anyway. I know that LP is better but I still develop PR because it's fun.
vocal rivet
Heh, I know the feeling. my first ever project is OS and I honestly feel shamefull about it, because looking back at it its a horrible mess and I have no idea how it ever worked
potent prawn
as long as you enjoy it, that's all that matters tbh
vocal rivet
Yes
potent prawn
i'm not exactly proud of the code for the editor either
i started it when i was new to Vue
i haven't really fixed any of the bad habits lol
vocal rivet
Haven't even touched Vue yet, but I also rarely use Node
gilded nova
I program for about 12 years now, but my stand point is: if it works it works. Maybe that isn't too good
potent prawn
you don't even need node to use vue
it does make developing with it way easier though
vocal rivet
Well I never had a case yet that rewuired me to use Vue- did you just say you use Vue to make developing easier? :3
xD
north lantern
I mostly use python.
vocal rivet
dies
potent prawn
Vue has significantly improved my workflow for web development
it's so easy to setup a boilerplate project and start making a decent site in minutes
vocal rivet
I was just joking, because you said you don't like anything that you didn't make yourself haha
Well in another topic, my personal opinion about python is: Burn it with fire
modest compass
whats wrong with python lol
potent prawn
:O
vocal rivet
I have a huge dislike for python for multible reasons, first being that its syntax is so different from other languages that it won't bring you much more then learning thr logic of programming, the second reason is the toxiticy of the python community I recieved so far, e. g. a developer that judt started thinks he knows everything better because he knows how to make hello world in python
Honestly, implementing someone elses libary for machine learning and starting it wont make you a ML Engineer
north lantern
import Tensorflow
Yeah where is my degree?
vocal rivet
You joke but I actually saw people that thought because they imported a machine learning libary they automatically are a expert on it
north lantern
You joke but I actually saw people that thought because they imported a machine learning libary they automatically are a expert on it
I don't know if that is funny or sad.
Open Source
Everyone may see my r/badcode
vocal rivet
I am since 5+ years a developer, but I feel lile a lot of people that just started with a language, lets say Java, just think they are a better person then me and I don't deserve the honor of talking to them. Stuff like that is the reason I try to develop on my own without any help.
I also know some people that started developing after I knew them, and suddenly they were a knowitall and I was the idiot
north lantern
Everyone has their own style but some people tend to push their style on others like it's the standard or something
vocal rivet
and my personal dislike for java, I was getting into java and a "friend" "helped" me. Long story short, he made me so angry that I get a very angry feeling from just looking at java code
sudden ice
I really wish I could develop plugins but I don’t even know where to start. 😢 everytime I tried I end up giving up...
north lantern
The only reason I started learning Java is because I wanted to make Bukkit plugins, and that was back in 2012.
vocal rivet
Make a hello world in java and built it out, when you are able to work with user inputs and understand OOP, you are ready to start going into plugin development
north lantern
That's what I see many times, lets make a plugin without learning the Java basics first.
vocal rivet
That was for Zoid haha
north lantern
I know :P
vocal rivet
Most languages are so simelar, if you know one you know them all. For example I learned C++ with classes and structures, the same principle works for php and java, with just minor code differences
php doesnt have structures for example
modest compass
except when it comes to python
north lantern
If you understand the logic behind programming it is really easy to switch languages.
vocal rivet
exactly xD
modest compass
but i learnt python first, then c++ then java
vocal rivet
from C to Java is easy, the jump from Py to C, that is hard
north lantern
Py > C is hard
C > Py is easier
vocal rivet
Now Lua, that was the first language I learned
local myLib = require("mylib")
function test()
return myLib.status()
end
if not test() == true then
print("something went wrong")
else
print("Libary loaded")
end
I <3 Lua
still use it to this day
north lantern
I used to program lua, but liked python more
vocal rivet
oh lol, you just got verified
north lantern
That's funny.
vocal rivet
I use Lua to make GMod addons
north lantern
I learned lua for something way worse... Roblox -_-
potent prawn
yeah i figured you were legit enough for that role 😆
vocal rivet
:0
What about me?
modest compass
hahaha
vocal rivet
No fair, I will tell my dad who owns Discord to ban you 😋
potent prawn
i'm ready
vocal rivet
He also ownz microsoft and Intel and nvidia, he will ban you fro. everythingz
now seriously, congratz to getting verified
Never got into Roblox, I always stayed with GLua, because GMod is so special, its not Lua its GLua
They modified Lua in some places and added functions that wouldnt be possibly by the default Lua logic
north lantern
thanks and that's cool
vocal rivet
Its good that they built out their wiki to include all GLua functions, the default ones and the custom ones
because the Lua Wiki is.. ugh
north lantern
Yeah I get that
vocal rivet
and if you btw want to see hardcore GMod developers, google for Metaconstruct. They even made their own server software, which no one else did
north lantern
That's actually impressive
vocal rivet
Their servers are practically uncrashable, because they have improoved the server side so much, regular crash tricks wont work on them
Another cool dudes were the GMod Tower team (Now PixelTail games) the developers of Tower Unite
They started with a GMod gamemode which was so unique, it was the thing that made gmod special.. then came the Gmod 13 update where they removed half of all lua functions. The PT team was so annoyed, they stopped GMod tower and made their own game
north lantern
"their own game" what game was that?
vocal rivet
Tower Unite
north lantern
ah okay.
vocal rivet
Its a game featuring a lot of minigames, much like the gmod gamemode. Arcades, Golf, Bowling etc etc. The most impressive thing in GMod tower was that they found a way to workaround the Map Size limit, by using the same room multible times
it was a highly intelligent system that made the map props invisible for anyone that wasnt the owner of the props, meaning if you were in your apartment, 20 other people could also have been there but you wouldnt see any of their stuff and you wouldnt see theirs
north lantern
Tower Unite looks like fun, I will try it out at some point.
And that's a clever way.
vocal rivet
Yeah, I once built a simelar system, but it was not as good as GT. I may try to redo it sometime
Doors was also a very clever system, you could place doors which you were able to look trough, but when you walked trough them they actually teleported you to the room you were seeing behind. The special thing about this was that you could see 3d depth perspectuve trough the door, so not just avprojected image but rather really look trough it
I miss these days
Well, I should propably stop rambling haha
north lantern
I miss these days
You can always go back ;)
Well, I should propably stop rambling haha
Yeah, same, even if this is off-topic, we talk way to much I guess.
vocal rivet
Sadly can't, all servers have been shut down and the source code was never oss, so... yeah its gone forever
vocal rivet
Anyways, no one wants to talk about GMod here anyways. My last experience wiith Java was me trying to fix a bug in CloudNet
alrighty, see ya around
north lantern
no one wants to talk about GMod here anyways
GMod is fun but I never got into programming for it.
vocal rivet
Understanable
placid garden
!help
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placid garden
!commands
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
gilded nova
Aah yes, spigot servers down
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gilded nova
@toxic meteor #general
bruh
@toxic meteor ya know this is #general right
same????
then dont ping me
its that simple
this already is #general
why the pings
im not..
k bet
🙄
sleek niche
Yes yes staff, I heard they are very nice people
short warren
I guess this server has infinite 2 boosts or something lol
or maybe boosts add up or something?
or someone else boosted the server and never said anywhere
steady tangle
animated icon when
gilded nova
Banner when 😦
short warren
bot channel and clippy v2 when
gilded nova
Does anyone suggest removing any of theese?
short warren
nah those are pretty standard plugins
gilded nova
what could i remove?
short warren
alright lol, why do you need to remove a plugin?
gilded nova
So i can add tags
short warren
but all those plugins are pretty necessary
gilded nova
.
short warren
i mean holographic displays is the least important, but its probably more important than tags
sleek niche
We still have a server invite background tough...
forest helm
Not sure what you've made lol. I see you're using h2 storage for what looks like a bungee network tho
oh
short warren
probably easier to do it after the db 🤷♂️
short warren
well no
you need to export your perms and import them into the db too
but that takes 2 seconds
latent tendon
its alrdy in the db 😉
short warren
how though
latent tendon
redoing stuff is so much fun
short warren
yeah i love setting up perms for like 30 different servers
and then redoing the servers
and then removing and adding plugins making me have to redo that server totally
gilded nova
@teal sun pls delete
teal sun
@gilded nova No advertising, first warning
delicate fossil
As some of you are admin, i'm having some trouble to know what my moderators are doing. Any plugin to log every command they use?
gilded nova
coreprotect should do the job.. and beyond
real laurel
^^
delicate fossil
Ohh
Used it today, but only to check who broke some blocks haha
Will learn more about it
❤️
So i only need to access the database, right?
gilded nova
co l a:command ...?
delicate fossil
Ohhhh
short warren
check out mcmarket and i believe theres a few subreddits that do that too
what are you planning to do?
drowsy quest
@sudden ice not the place for this
sudden ice
Oh my bad
sudden ice
Hello guys
bold sparrow
Hi
sudden ice
Hey can someone please guide me or teach me where to go
to learn development for minecraft
i installed this but not sure what to do
drowsy quest
Do you know Java @sudden ice ?
sudden ice
alright
bold sparrow
Keep them on I guess
drowsy quest
Minecraft plugins are not the place to learn Java
drowsy quest
That doesn’t change anything about my statement
You’re essentially trying to run a marathon while you haven’t even learned to walk on your own
sudden ice
oof
bold sparrow
I agree with BrainStone, however for very very small plugins you don’t need to know how OOP works or Java in general
So, what are you trying to do Zaid? If it’s small then maybe we can help
drowsy quest
I mean the only exception to learning Java through MC is if you already are proficient in other OOP languages. Non OOP languages might work too though you should spend learning OOP first and then the whole thing
bold sparrow
Zaid I hope you have any programming experience in general
short warren
Go learn Java, then learn actual use of it
drowsy quest
I mean this as in MC plugin programming
gilded nova
Oh good God no
My dad started learning Java for Android apps. He's been programming in Fox decades, also decades of SQL experience... But those 2 are OH SO different from Java; the very core principle of them are way too different.
There's static everywhere ;-;
sudden ice
public static something
idk coding xD
or does not have to always contain public static
im like 1 iq
gilded nova
An archaic language indeed
rigid widget
@toxic meteor not appropriate for the server, we're a PG kinda town
short warren
nice
gilded nova
not nice when it's not a survival world
steady tangle
Mushroom soup 4 lyf
sudden ice
fierce elbow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/753290285806780459/755618008684036157/transparent-picture.png
sudden ice
Lmaooo
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spring cobalt
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urban flume
So when I installed EssentialsChat it already comes with prefixes but it didn't solve the problem where prefixes that are set with luckperms don't show up.
potent prawn
!faq has some troubleshooting tips
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LuckPerms wiki
potent prawn
(pretty sure essentials doesn't "already come with prefixes")
nova sand
Fuck I want coke
gilded nova
damn bru, chill
potent prawn
Same tbh
potent prawn
No :(
nova sand
Get some coke in ya mate
potent prawn
sudden ice
dies
polar lion
@potent prawn I have EssentialsX, EssentialsX chat, and Vault in my Spigot Server while I have MultiChat in my Bungee server. I am still unable to get the chat prefixes to show up. Is there anything I can do.
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potent prawn
you shouldn't be using Essentials Chat with bungeecord
polar lion
let me try removing it
potent prawn
I don't know anything about Multichat
polar lion
i'll get back to you
polar lion
a cross server one would be ideal
potent prawn
carbon chat
polar lion
is that a plugin?
polar lion
This is the only plugin in the spigot folder
and this is my BungeeCord plugins folder
potent prawn
you're going to want to put LP in the spigot servers as well
it needs to be on everything
and synced via mysql
!sync
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latent tendon
@polar lion you said multichat
polar lion
right
latent tendon
polar lion
Turbo can you reccomend a guide to set up a MySQL
potent prawn
yeah i draw the line at mysql support here, google should help, or if you have any specific questions feel free to ask them here
latent tendon
turbo
polar lion
thanks so much
sudden ice
Does anyone else not know any of their passwords?
drowsy quest
That’s why I have a password manager
wise bronze
whats the plugin that shows # of deaths below your name like in smplive? i cant find it
tough garden
is it possible to make players invisible for others, but not with /gamemode spectator?
if it requires a plugin for that, please let me know. I want to make it so that default players are in a somewhat "guestmode", so that they can fly, but they're invisible
mental jackal
search spigot or bukkit vanish plugin and choose the one u like
drowsy quest
@wise bronze you can do that with scoreboards
Like the vanilla thing with vanilla commands
high tulip
Sometimes i Mine and the ore/stone lags back, is there a way to fix it
drowsy quest
What's your ping?
high tulip
like 0
sleek niche
I probably spent 6 hours debugging an CSS issue and I just wrote align-content instead of align-items
Really funny
bold sparrow
had nearly the same thing, but i only had to hit my head on the table for 2 hours
sudden ice
Good afternoon
normal surge
||i like cheese||
bright ember
So is Hyperverse better than Multiverse now?
rigid widget
sorta?
gilded nova
Well it's something new, updated, active
rigid widget
depends what u need 😄
gilded nova
I need hyperverse
lofty compass
Who buying 3080
sudden ice
Can’t afford it
short warren
no reason to upgrade, already have a 1070
lofty compass
It's like 75%-95% better than a 1080 Ti
bright ember
2080 users rn 🤣
short warren
and? I already get near perfect performance from a 1070
higher power doesnt mean its worth it
if you have no use for it theres no reason to upgrade
lofty compass
You can't do rtx thooo
short warren
You can't do rtx thooo
@lofty compass You think i care? No game i play has rtx support
i mean besides siege
but doesnt reallymatter
bright ember
Who needs rtx, when you live next to the lush green mountains covered with patches of vibrant flower beds 😩