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#general
latent tendon
placid pagoda
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placid pagoda
you use the config to change messages though..I don;t need languages
latent tendon
no u dont
placid pagoda
you don't configure plugins messages with the config?
modest compass
there is usually a lang file
or locale
sometimes you need to create your own
they do have a support at MOSS iirc, you can ask there
placid pagoda
I found it in the locales folder. never looked it before cuz I had no idea what it was. Guess I need to do more exploring.
Thanks Ben.
silent knot
It is no problem at remove default group if the other group are linked to the default group?
short warren
I dont think you can remove the default group
silent knot
i dont remove it from groups only players 🙂
short warren
default group is the default group, every player has it
if you dont want them to have the permissions, just dont have permissions in it
silent knot
yes, but you can remove default from players and no is not perm problem. they not need be in more an one group, it is for ranking some give and remove groups.
short warren
alright, i guess if thats possible
silent knot
i only mean if LP not like if players is not in default group.
modest compass
you can set players to other group yes
with something like /lp user USER parent set GROUP
the only thing is all players that first join is automatically assign to default group, and you cant change this
silent knot
oright, yes no problem they get assign to default group, when they get first rank it remove it and get new group. only wonder if the plugin not like if i do soo.
silent knot
yes was not i mean. but only if LP not like my messing with groups 🙂
modest compass
huh
you prob just messed up your own setup lol
idk why you always like to blame lp lol
silent knot
yes it might have been a little difficult to interpret.
Do you know you talked about not deleting or changing the default group
So just wondering if it also applied if you removed it from the players as well
short warren
You cant delete the default group, but you can remove it from players
if thats what you meant
silent knot
yes
robust walrus
IntelliJ Idea vs Eclipse
short warren
what type of key is this
intellij is nice though
just finished writing my hello world
oh its alt nevermind
gilded nova
How is that alt
short warren
idfk
its just what the person said
its the official intellij tutorial for first use
latent tendon
im gonna ask it here
if i do this boolean checks. would i get any issues u think or will i be good
don't have a way to test it rn
sudden ice
Good afternoon guys
drowsy quest
@gilded nova that's the Mac notation for alt
for whatever fucking reason some programs like to use that notation on all platforms
I only happen to know because I once used a LaTeX package to represent key combinations and there was a Mac mode that would display the Alt key that way
gilded nova
Fuck Apple
storm berry
!paste
outer vesselBOT
storm berry
okay so the error for players joining is happening again but i was able to find a detailed error from console
storm berry
okie one sec
storm berry
hihi im doing gud today just got a lot of work ahead of me
wbu dear
here is basically the same error but the full message
sudden ice
this is the most amazing thing i've seen in my life
this game is entirely streamed from satellite
short warren
thats insane
short warren
this game is entirely streamed from satellite
you on satellite internet or did you mean the maps are taken from satellites
sudden ice
sudden ice
yes
short warren
this game is more insane than i thought
gilded nova
how do u feel today?
Better I guess, I mean the worst part already happened lol but the pain is considerably less
Still hurts but way less
sudden ice
pain killers?
sudden ice
oh ok
storm berry
@gilded nova hey fefo dear, would yoiu be able to check this?
outer vesselBOT
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storm berry
oh oopsies
i just did it cause you helped me last time
im just concerned because my ingame chat looks like this
short warren
is that botting?
storm berry
nope
thats what the chat usually looks like because of the thing i just sent
it causes people to join then leave
gilded nova
What in the world is that
The few times my chat was like that there were no console errors, just "Disconnected blah blah"
gilded nova
Hey, it works like the in game completion
latent tendon
Anyone wanna test it out live?
@drowsy quest i love testing, p.s sorry for the ping, blame quotes
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latent tendon
spigot, ew, paper, ew
robust walrus
Yeah I hear that alot lma9
latent tendon
Purpur 
robust walrus
All though
short warren
wtf is purpur
robust walrus
I did see this on spigotmc
short warren
sounds terrible
robust walrus
the spigot API but rather some NMS methods, but if you consider plugins under "spigot" category on this site "spigot plugins", not all of them will work with paperspigot
Do alot of plugins use this or nah?
sudden ice
hello
short warren
any decent plugin will work with paper
drowsy quest
@latent tendon ok. Just replace https://luckperms.net/editor/ with https://editor.project-creative.net/editor/
robust walrus
Kk
drowsy quest
Tab doesn't work sadly
latent tendon
wtf is purpur
@short warren ToXiC
short warren
combination fork disgusting
drowsy quest
@short warren in my improved web editor
short warren
oh alright
drowsy quest
Not TAB
drowsy quest
I mean the tab key
robust walrus
Wtf is Waterfall, I see that alot too
latent tendon
VELOCITY
short warren
velocity is better though
latent tendon
EW
short warren
velocity is great
latent tendon
based on what @robust walrus
short warren
unless you need a really specific plugin for bungee
gilded nova
It all boils down to md_5 software lol
robust walrus
Is more optimizd
short warren
yeah velocity is more secure and much faster
latent tendon
u know whats the most optimized bungee stuff?
Custom made one from HCF and Hypixel
gilded nova
Whatever hypixel uses
drowsy quest
Yes it can
gilded nova
bungee cant be optimized
@short warren so what is Waterfall then?
latent tendon
i have the one from Badlion 😉
short warren
@short warren so what is Waterfall then?
@gilded nova it was a joke because bungee is so old
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latent tendon
ew
latent tendon
hey brain
short warren
there was a post about putting a sign outside their house to advertise
latent tendon
how i test
short warren
admincraft is the stupidest reddit community that exists
drowsy quest
@latent tendon ok. Just replace https://luckperms.net/editor/ with https://editor.project-creative.net/editor/
robust walrus
:o
gilded nova
Brain, can I dm you for support?
drowsy quest
?mute @gilded nova 1min No
viral havenBOT
Fefo❤#3958 was muted
latent tendon
lmao
short warren
lmao
robust walrus
F
steady tangle
yikes
gilded nova
😤 😤
drowsy quest
I mean just start a new editor session and then replace the start of the link with what I showed you @latent tendon
drowsy quest
All good
latent tendon
drowsy quest
Here's a session with decently many permissions to suggest: https://editor.project-creative.net/editor/RzVOkM1DXH
drowsy quest
I like it because it has many many permissions
waxen hedge
Question about tracks, can you use tracks to promote for specific servers? Or would I need a track for each server?
clever swan
drowsy quest
Track promotions can have a context @waxen hedge
latent tendon
ohno
drowsy quest
@clever swan the error says it all
clever swan
?
latent tendon
OHNO
waxen hedge
@drowsy quest So, in the promote command I would put server=servername?
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drowsy quest
It's Java. Not Javascript @latent tendon
latent tendon
ik
drowsy quest
@waxen hedge yes
clever swan
brainstone wdym by the error says it all?
latent tendon
but why this.
waxen hedge
excellent thanks brainyboy ;3
clever swan
ok, but why?
drowsy quest
Because that type cannot be cast into the other
clever swan
ok ty
latent tendon
now i see a cmd thing
drowsy quest
I mean what else could be the reason?
clever swan
idk i just dont know how to solve this, never had that error before
drowsy quest
There's nothing to solve
Whatever you tried to do cannot be done
You're trying to change apples into oranges
waxen hedge
what exactly does:
server: global in the config do?
It says it has to do with context, but does this force a context? If so, in what way?
clever swan
ok ty
latent tendon
@waxen hedge server name
drowsy quest
@waxen hedge pretty sure the big fat comment above explains it well
If in doubt have a look here:
short warren
you replace global with a server name like factions
drowsy quest
!context
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
bold sparrow
Im new to minecraft coding, but why the duck returns the onCommand method a Boolean
latent tendon
ohno
drowsy quest
@latent tendon the error cases should return false if I'm not absolutely delirious
Else it looks ok
latent tendon
who error
waxen hedge
Yes, like I said it talks about context, but I have them all set to global and it still works server specifically. So I wasn't sure what it does since it still works.
drowsy quest
I'd use an else for the last if
Well for example you return true when it's not a player
It should be false instead
return true when it was successful and false when not
drowsy quest
That if should have an else
And inside your first if you return true
Return false there and for similar cases
Whenever the command didn't succeed for whatever reason return false, not true
@bold sparrow ☝🏼
That's why
bold sparrow
Are you ever gonna use the Boolean returned by that method?
bold sparrow
If not, might as well make it void
latent tendon
@bold sparrow mc coding is fun
brain can remember how small my code was
rn i have so much stuff
bold sparrow
I know, I’ve made a nice plugin myself too
latent tendon
custom chat wich hooks in every plugin like LP. (wich has a own ColorTranslator)
custom discord bridge
ability to enable or disable 1.9 combat via config
etc etc
bold sparrow
Make them separate plugins lol
bold sparrow
Bullshit
bold sparrow
takes up SpaCeeee
In that case, why don’t you put all your code in one file?
Takes up less space
😂
bold sparrow
Right
You’d also be able to do that in a different way
But I guess that’s convention
bold sparrow
I understand, but why did the API chose to mandate that return type
drowsy quest
Well when it was first concieved that was enough
By now it would need to return a bit more info but due to backwards compatibility they can't change that
bold sparrow
Yea
bold sparrow
IntelliJ for me
gilded nova
May I ask why?
bold sparrow
Why I chose for IntelliJ?
soft haven
idk just curious
gilded nova
mk
soft haven
i saw md5 uses netbeans earilier
bold sparrow
IntelliJ > all
gilded nova
Yeah it's the "ide of preference" for contributing to Bukkit, CB and spigot
soft haven
i was just curious
soft haven
who
gilded nova
Md
soft haven
oh
bold sparrow
Jetbrains > *
soft haven
ok
bold sparrow
Eclipse < all
soft haven
nobody asked the first time
bold sparrow
Oof
gilded nova
I hate you
bold sparrow
#dealwithit
#why
drowsy quest
do you use the light theme or dark
@soft haven is there even a question?
soft haven
what
sudden ice
soft haven
question mark
drowsy quest
dark theme of course
soft haven
XDD
drowsy quest
And look at all the triggered noobs x3
bold sparrow
@soft haven is there even a question?
Well, since you use eclipse, there is 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just playing
drowsy quest
The thing is I gave IntelliJ a try and couldn't figure out anything
bold sparrow
Absurd
drowsy quest
And that was like "Yo. If I can't even figure out basic stuff without having to look for guides, I'm done"
bold sparrow
Mmmm
drowsy quest
And that was my 2 hour excursion into IntelliJ
Though I have to admit I was working with a gradle project
bold sparrow
You should retry it, for real
drowsy quest
Or in other words what's so much better about it that's worth relearning an entire IDE when I'm more than comfortable with my current one
Considering I was struggling to navigate it, I'm seriously doubting it
sudden ice
let people use whatever they're comfortable with
gilded nova
The two times I tried to use eclipse it was SO unintuitive for me
drowsy quest
All good. I'm all for that
gilded nova
I was dead confused
drowsy quest
Well I'm not surprised if you've been stockholmed into the IntelliJ ways
gilded nova
I find it quick to use 🤷♂️ I do have to say I rely a lot on the keyboard shortcuts soooo there's that as well
drowsy quest
I'll admit though, the one thing that's actually absurdly hard to find is importing a project
In Eclipse
The rest is super straight forward imho
Gradle integration sucks, but I'm using the command line anyways, so there's that
light echo
i have 2 Questions
- is there a way to link roles to discord
- And does any one know a good forms for minecraft servers
short warren
- discordSRV plugin
- You mean like bukkit or what
short warren
oh forums
bold sparrow
Yea it’s personal preference after all
drowsy quest
@rigid widget what do you think?
https://github.com/lucko/LuckPermsWeb/pull/321
rigid widget
I'll check it out when I get to my PC :)
Can't really read code/test on phones as well tbh
short warren
dont know if this a problem everywhere, or just this experiment, but i didnt notice it when doing permissions for my server. The big bar at he top that shows the groupname and parents and stuff is huge and doesnt shrink when scrolling down, making it difficult to see the perms on a smaller screen like a laptop
sudden ice
hmm
drowsy quest
Press Ctrl + -
sudden ice
hi brain
short warren
oh that works thanks
bold sparrow
Thoughts on a website using solely vw and vh? Makes zooming redundant😂
drowsy quest
Enjoy making it
sudden ice
I love this game so much
short warren
UnRealIstiC 3rd perSon?
bold sparrow
Enjoy making it
My school used to teach my to use vh all the time
I made some website which used vh for font size
short warren
alright stupid question, but its something i would like to try to works towards if possible: how hard is it to make a program thats like a crappy texting service? like a console chat between two computers on the same network
bold sparrow
Not that hard actually
short warren
any idea on how to do it?
bold sparrow
There are a lot of tutorials about that
clever swan
why is there no 1.8.8 button? or does this just not matter?
I could have sworn there was a 1.8.8 button
clever swan
no, it's intellij...
bold sparrow
is it possible on c#?
Obviously, I guess?
short warren
alright just making sure
oh wait but then i need the net core or whatever on both pcs
bold sparrow
Tho it’d be a million times easier to use JavaScript
clever swan
why is there no 1.8.8 button? or does this just not matter?
anyone know?
short warren
what about java
bold sparrow
Also possible
short warren
javascript is dumb or somethingi guess
bold sparrow
You could even write it in pascal
short warren
alright thanks for your help
bold sparrow
I guess
short warren
ill start looking for a tutorial
bold sparrow
javascript is dumb or somethingi guess
It might be dumb, but where would we be without it? Yea, we would be looking at some static as fuck webpages
drowsy quest
Not really
clever swan
does this matter? I cant find 1.8.8?
drowsy quest
Not only were there numerous alternatives there's also Java applets and flash
Or were
@clever swan depends on what you want to do
clever swan
1.8.8 plugin
misty cradle
I imagine he just wants to setup a 1.8.8 spigot setup
drowsy quest
Then yes
misty cradle
which in that case, you really just will need to update the dependency version
drowsy quest
Tough luck
gilded nova
just replace the version in your pom.xml/build.gradle
clever swan
misty cradle
just select one of them, then switch the version manually
clever swan
ok ty
bold sparrow
Not only were there numerous alternatives there's also Java applets and flash
Who uses flash anymore
gilded nova
👀 💦
light echo
what is a good forms for minecraft
vocal rivet
Java applets, haha. Java web was removed from all browsers and is more obsolete then flash
there is just one last browser that has java applet support, guess which
bold sparrow
Fax
vocal rivet
Internet Explorer
vocal rivet
Yeah, IE also reaches its EOL (its about time) but sadly I kinda need IE for some webpages that use JavaWeb or ClickOnce
bold sparrow
:interesting:
drowsy quest
@vocal rivet I never said those things are modern
vocal rivet
Server control panels ( iLO and ilom to be percise ) they wont ever get updated to a newer format, so I need IE to be able to use RemoteConsole
drowsy quest
I’m just saying JS wasn’t the only thing that made web pages dynamic as @bold sparrow claimed
bold sparrow
I’m just saying JS wasn’t the only thing that made web pages dynamic as @bold sparrow claimed
Fair, but that wasn’t really the point I was trying to make
Ppl hate on js but still use cause it’s just the go to for client side web shit
drowsy quest
To summarize someone said JS sucks, he responded with then we would only have static pages to which I replied that that’s not correct and gave a few examples
bold sparrow
read ^
drowsy quest
And yes
vocal rivet
I don't hate on JS, its just different.. and some JS developers.. worse then some PY developers I tell ya haha
drowsy quest
Being forced to use it doesn’t make it any better
gilded nova
something popped up on my screen just before I had to hit enter....
drowsy quest
There are certain things only achievable with JS
vocal rivet
Eh, in a lot of cases you don't have much of a choice then to use js
gilded nova
I don't know what I just installed
drowsy quest
If you want to interact with the DOM you have no choice but JS
bold sparrow
There are certain things only achievable with JS
That’s only a good thing
short warren
wasnt able to find any tutorials on how to do it on either java or c#, although it seems like java has what you need to do it
bold sparrow
It makes js
vocal rivet
btw, any tips on how to sleep with fleas in the bedroom and bed? Seriously I am going nuts here
gilded nova
alcohol
drowsy quest
HTML5 and CSS3 removed the need for a lot of stuff previously only possible with JS but many DOM interactions are still only possible with JS
short warren
make a flea trap or something?
vocal rivet
Haha
drowsy quest
Having only one language to solve a certain problem is always bad
Especially if that language is god awfully bad
gilded nova
relying on one single tool to do several jobs is bad
vocal rivet
CS lua in browsers when? ;p
drowsy quest
Who are you replying to?
bold sparrow
Your message e
drowsy quest
So you disagree that having only one choice is bad?
bold sparrow
No
drowsy quest
Then what do you disagree with?
bold sparrow
I disagree that because there’s only one option, it somehow makes the language bad?
drowsy quest
I’ve never said that
gilded nova
^^
bold sparrow
It makes the particular language better than the others
drowsy quest
I’m saying only one choice is bad
gilded nova
he never did say that lol
clever swan
https://pastebin.com/uqJj2agh ??? I'll send my version also
bold sparrow
That language can’t help it’s the only one which has that feature
drowsy quest
And it doesn’t make the language any better
vocal rivet
I cant even go to the bedroom without having tons of fleas on me... and when I drive home, I will have them in my apartment too as these "Mistviecher" propably already have layd eggs in my clothing
bold sparrow
It does
clever swan
https://pastebin.com/uqJj2agh ??? I'll send my version also
bold sparrow
That language can’t help it’s the only one which has that feature
Im just saying that because there is only one language for a certain feature it makes it bad somehow?
clever swan
drowsy quest
Im just saying that because there is only one language for a certain feature it makes it bad somehow?
@bold sparrow for the second time. Not what I said
gilded nova
getCommand can return null
drowsy quest
I am saying JS sucks.
clever swan
epic
drowsy quest
And it being forced onto me doesn’t make it any better
vocal rivet
A language does not have to be either good or bad, it can also be neutral and I personally agree with brain, there should be more languages to choose from when making clientside scripts
bold sparrow
It makes it better than the other languages
drowsy quest
Not at all
gilded nova
make sure to declare your "cc" command in your plugin.yml @clever swan
vocal rivet
How is only having that choice making the language better?
bold sparrow
Because it has a feature others don’t
clever swan
you want me to delete this?
gilded nova
I never said delete
drowsy quest
Which languages you can use in the browser is determined by the browser developers. Not the language developers
gilded nova
that looks good
clever swan
ight
drowsy quest
@bold sparrow it’s not a feature
vocal rivet
its a bug :3 /s
clever swan
oh i thought you said "delete" but you said "declare"
drowsy quest
The language itself has no bearing on where it can be used or not
bold sparrow
According to your statement
drowsy quest
Yes JS sucks balls
gilded nova
lol
drowsy quest
Regardless of where it is used
vocal rivet
JS isnt Bad it just has some strange Peculiarities
drowsy quest
And browser developers suck for refusing to provide an alternative
gilded nova
like implicitly casting everything?
bold sparrow
Which languages you can use in the browser is determined by the browser developers. Not the language developers
Yes, so in what way does this make js bad?
gilded nova
And browser developers suck for refusing to provide an alternative
wasm?
gilded nova
I mean...
bold sparrow
There
vocal rivet
"1" == 1 : true
"1" === 1 : false
drowsy quest
I never said JS being the only language usable in a browser makes the language bad
For the third time now
bold sparrow
I don’t know what you mean by that
drowsy quest
Stop pretending I said something to debunk it
bold sparrow
Im not even doing that
vocal rivet
was about to ask what git had to do with it haha
drowsy quest
I am only saying 2 things:
- JS sucks
- Being forced to use it in certain environments doesn’t make it any better
bold sparrow
I don’t get why you mentioned being forced to use js in the first place
That doesn’t say anything about the language
drowsy quest
Imagine this
You’re out hiking. And you reach a stretch where you are stopped by some guards. They inform you that you have to wear certain boots to hike that stretch. Now if you want to reach your destination that’s the only way. So you have no choice but to use the boots. However they are terrible. Every step makes your feet hurt more and more.
Now while it’s not the boot’s fault that you have to wear them it most certainly won’t make you like them more or make the boots better in any way
bold sparrow
Great metaphor, it brings me straight to what I said before
I don’t get why you mentioned being forced to use js in the first place
Yes js sucks
I literally agree with that lol
drowsy quest
Because it makes me hate the language more
bold sparrow
But one shouldn’t complain
drowsy quest
Oh absolutely
bold sparrow
In my opinion
drowsy quest
I’d rather not have dynamic web pages than have JS
And that’s exclusively due to node
Objectively making web dev worse
vocal rivet
There is a alternative to JS for browsers thought, and Fefo mentioned it already
drowsy quest
WASM?
vocal rivet
Yes
drowsy quest
Still needs a JS wrapper and to manipulate the DOM you need JS calls
An improvement but not good
vocal rivet
True
drowsy quest
Also not widely supported
bold sparrow
js can be nice too I swear
vocal rivet
Firefox and chromium have it built in already, and by that all forks of those
gilded nova
Still needs a JS wrapper and to manipulate the DOM you need JS calls
never got into wasm really but that's good to know lol
vocal rivet
Obviously a browser from 8 years ago won't get it haha xD
vocal rivet
Well the issue is, you can't prepare for every single browser
or more, every version of one
vocal rivet
Because each update brought new JS functionalities, new Css functions etc
Chromium and Firefox
drowsy quest
Firefox is OS
bold sparrow
Right ty
drowsy quest
And chromium, yeah
vocal rivet
If you try to support Firefoy 10 for example, you wont have any functionality on your website
drowsy quest
Wanna bet? 😜
bold sparrow
Might as well fork it and code your own wasm or whatever it’s called support
vocal rivet
and then?
bold sparrow
Might as well fork it and code your own wasm or whatever it’s called support
Only takes like an hour or 2
Then publish it
And boom
Problem solved
vocal rivet
Who uses some fork browser that has more language support?
drowsy quest
I’ll spend the next 2 years making that so I can make web pages only I can see
vocal rivet
Most people just use Chrome, it dominates the web market share
drowsy quest
Only takes like an hour or 2
@bold sparrow no. It absolutely does not
vocal rivet
I think chrome is used in 55% of all cases?
bold sparrow
Yea I sadly use chrome too
drowsy quest
I don’t even have a clue what im talking about
@bold sparrow why am I not surprised?
bold sparrow
Because you have your thoughts on me
vocal rivet
🔥
vocal rivet
drowsy quest
Absolutely and most definitely not
vocal rivet
people are really using Safari?
bold sparrow
It’s like a trend to say you hate js
drowsy quest
It’s like a trend to say you hate js
@bold sparrow because it does
violet rivet
Lol edge
gilded nova
people use edge more than opera lol
bold sparrow
people are really using Safari?
Uhm, yes?!
vocal rivet
but samsung internet is more commonly used them edge hahaha
bold sparrow
iOS ftw
drowsy quest
Opera is actually a good browser
violet rivet
Probably people who don't know how to install another browser
drowsy quest
I’d use it if I wasn’t using FF
vocal rivet
Safari is the Internet Explorer of apple
drowsy quest
Yup
bold sparrow
Except better
You shouldn’t even get an iPhone if you’re gonna install fucking edge on it
drowsy quest
Well yeah. Hard to be worse than batshit insane
vocal rivet
Functionality wise, not really. It does the same crap IE did, having own custom css and js functions to make it special, so you habe to update your css in some ways just because Apple copied MS
drowsy quest
They’ve actually given up on that
drowsy quest
Also they reason they stopped making it for other OSes
Those decisions went hand in hand
bold sparrow
Guys cmon
vocal rivet
Good
bold sparrow
I don’t get this all fr
It seems ppl actually get upset when they see someone using something they think is bad
violet rivet
Yes
violet rivet
There's browsers and then there's browsers
vocal rivet
Okay, a simple explaination:
to support all browsers you would have to do:
--webkit-somefunction
--ms-somefunction
--o-somefunction
--moz-somefunction
--safari-somefunction
That was the internet of the past
some css functions are still not supported by all browsers
and require this crappy multi use
gilded nova
some css functions are still not supported by all browsers
standards, amirite?
vocal rivet
Yes
gilded nova
smfh
drowsy quest
Btw pop quiz:
What does this JS code evaluate to?
[9, 10, 8, 100].sort()
Just a few months ago I had to use a --moz because firefox didn't implement the webkit function.. whyyyyy
drowsy quest
Correct
gilded nova
xDD
violet rivet
Take 9 seconds to pick 10 random numbers from 8 to 100? Am I close?
vocal rivet
haha
drowsy quest
Note it still returns the numbers
gilded nova
as numbers??
drowsy quest
Yes
drowsy quest
It actually returns [10, 100, 8, 9]
gilded nova
"type safety"
drowsy quest
No
gilded nova
and how would....
vocal rivet
make your own sort function ;3
drowsy quest
You need to implement a custom comparator
gilded nova
. _______.
drowsy quest
12/10 crazy
bold sparrow
BrainStone
The sort() method sorts the items of an array. The sort order can be either alphabetic or numeric, and either ascending (up) or descending (down). By default, the sort() method sorts the values as strings in alphabetical and ascending order. This works well for strings ("Apple" comes before "Banana").
drowsy quest
You actually can’t sort a numeric array in JS with a standard call
bold sparrow
The sort() method sorts the items of an array. The sort order can be either alphabetic or numeric, and either ascending (up) or descending (down). By default, the sort() method sorts the values as strings in alphabetical and ascending order. This works well for strings ("Apple" comes before "Banana").
drowsy quest
I’ve read
bold sparrow
Good
drowsy quest
To sort numerically you need to pass a function
gilded nova
that would be your comparator implementation?
drowsy quest
Not that one
vocal rivet
I think you dont get the issue here
bold sparrow
Maybe not idk
drowsy quest
The issue being that it sorts numeric lists alphabetically by default
vocal rivet
It sorts numbers alphabetically by default, which it shouldnt do with numbers
bold sparrow
If you wish to sort numerically, might as well sort them with your own code. Won’t make a difference from a non existing funxtion like math.sort()
vocal rivet
because then 10 100 8 9 is the correct alphabetical order, but you wanted 8 9 10 100
drowsy quest
Yes that makes a huge difference
bold sparrow
Same for java utilities, they’re just pieces of java code to make your life easier
Writing them yourself won’t make a single difference
drowsy quest
Yes it will
bold sparrow
Explain
drowsy quest
How fast can you implement quick sort
gilded nova
If you wish to sort numerically, might as well sort them with your own code
you literally have to..
bold sparrow
How fast can you implement quick sort
Give an example of a java utility which you couldn’t write yourself
They just make your life easier
drowsy quest
Quite a few actually
bold sparrow
They aren’t holy methods
drowsy quest
HTTP stuff for example
vocal rivet
In gmod lua you can't trust pre defined functions by GMod, so you have to avoid using them ehenever possible (they like to randomly remove functions)
bold sparrow
Yea
drowsy quest
While I could implement them in theory I can’t in practice
drowsy quest
Now the thing is having utility functions is what makes coding efficient
bold sparrow
A sort function
drowsy quest
@bold sparrow have you ever written an optimized sort function?
bold sparrow
Now the thing is having utility functions is what makes coding efficient
Easy, and practical, not necessarily efficient for your program
@bold sparrow have you ever written an optimized sort function?
There are lots out there which you can copy, why bother trying to make a super quick sort function
bold sparrow
It’s not a problem there isn’t a predefined function for sorting numerically
You can add your own method
No problem
Use that method and enjoy life
Takes 5 mins to make that work
drowsy quest
You’re saying shit like “builtins don’t matter. Just write it yourself” and then “just copy paste it”
Yes 5 minutes vs 0 seconds
And I still don’t think you understand the issue at play here
bold sparrow
Yes 5 minutes vs 0 seconds
5 mins which aren’t even worth noticing
drowsy quest
Yes they are
bold sparrow
I do, it’s stupid JavaScript doesn’t have a numerical sort
bold sparrow
But does it matter?
clever swan
no errors no nothin, what did i do wrong?
bold sparrow
No
vocal rivet
Have you ever worked in a development enviroment professionally?
drowsy quest
The issue is that there is a sort function
That if you don’t know the details about does absurd stuff
vast isle
@hard swift why are you even using banks or whatever when you can just change the player's balance
gilded nova
lol jordie wrong @
clever swan
jordan ping the right guy ffs
drowsy quest
If I look at [...].sort() I do not expect it to sort it alphabetically if the array is numbers
bold sparrow
Sure thing
drowsy quest
It’s not logical for that to do it
vocal rivet
Never code shit if you don’t know what it does
and how do you learn what it does...?
bold sparrow
But after debugging once you find out
drowsy quest
So if I don’t know that I’ve just broken my code
Without having a clue about what’s wrong
That can easily cost even experienced programmers hours or days of debugging
bold sparrow
and how do you learn what it does...?
I’m saying you shouldn’t do things which you aren’t capable of yet, making you copy code etc. You won’t learn from copying code
clever swan
why are you even using banks or whatever when you can just change the player's balance
@vast isle custom eco for side thing rather than using essentials
i dont want the 2 to mix
bold sparrow
So if I don’t know that I’ve just broken my code
Yes, and if you’re a dev you better know this, or you might as well quit your job as web dev
These are things you learn in the very beginning
vocal rivet
Damit Krueger, another one
drowsy quest
It’s shocking how little you know about programming and yet here you are spouting uneducated BS
bold sparrow
Basic methods
clever swan
wait so what did I do wrong in my plugin.yml?
bold sparrow
I’m not the one putting out bullsbit
vast isle
if plugin.playerBanks is just a call to economy#getBanks I doubt that'll work though, unless that's how the functions work under the hood
bold sparrow
That can easily cost even experienced programmers hours or days of debugging
Experienced, but doesn’t know the output of a sort function?
Sure sure
drowsy quest
The mere fact that you suggested “just write your own sorting function” suggests you have no clue about any of this
bold sparrow
Days of debugging? Mhm
The mere fact that you suggested “just write your own sorting function” suggests you have no clue about any of this
Quote me
rigid widget
No point arguing boys
gilded nova
lerry
vocal rivet
Ya all need sum sleep
rigid widget
Seems more productive to stop here
bold sparrow
It does, but I’m getting insulted lmao
drowsy quest
You’re a walking Dunning-Kruger graph
bold sparrow
There
rigid widget
You would do well to listen to brain, @bold sparrow
vocal rivet
haha
rigid widget
But no point arguing!
rigid widget
Heh
gilded nova
On another note, PlayerPreLoginEvent has been deprecated ever since 1.5..... why is it still around????
rigid widget
Very useful
gilded nova
. _.
drowsy quest
You deserve nothing but insults for all the brain cells I’ve lost reading your inept messages
bold sparrow
You’re either heavily autistic or you can’t argue with someone
clever swan
getCommand("econo").setExecutor(new EconomyCommands());``` I forgot to include this lol @vast isleya all need some ice to cool down 🍨
drowsy quest
I can’t argue with people that have no idea what on earth they are talking about
gilded nova
the internet was a mistake
clever swan
guys random poll:
Favorite ice cream flavor
vocal rivet
Cherry and Dark chocolate
clever swan
Half Baked from ben and jerrys just hits different
drowsy quest
Male reproductive organ
bold sparrow
@bold sparrow that's a warning for being an ableist slurrer
Fine, but after all those insults... couldn’t help coming back with a factual one
rigid widget
No
vocal rivet
that was so completely random brain, I love it
clever swan
https://pastebin.com/UtFu0Sey someone wanna help me so I can be satisfied for today and get some sleep? im shit at errors
drowsy quest
My brain is fried
clever swan
same
drowsy quest
Best I could come up with
vocal rivet
FriedStone
drowsy quest
I mean I knew the Dunning-Kruger graph had a peak, but damn I wasn’t aware that that peak has a secondary one that’s off the charts
vocal rivet
Enjoy this pictire instead to calm down:
bold sparrow
I’m gonna go before it escalates to me getting kicked
vast isle
@clever swan https://i.jordqn.me/7033117a67.png
clever swan
i am going to shoot myself ty jordan
vocal rivet
You need to learn how to debug
drowsy quest
Reading stacktraces is a start
vocal rivet
most of the times it tells you the exact issue and where it is
clever swan
if(!plugin.playerBank.containsKey(player.getUniqueId())){ should I remove the ! ?
gilded nova
no?
clever swan
fuck it imma just try everything
vast isle
that's not gonna make it null?
vocal rivet
propably one of the arrays? structures? classes? is empty
drowsy quest
Please not another
drowsy quest
I’ve lost enough brain cells already 😭
clever swan
getCommand("econo").setExecutor(new EconomyCommands()); so I made this a command right?
very basic
wait nvm
there are literally no errors or null shit or anything to mess it up
vast isle
um did you try using the methods provided by the economy class instead of adding it to the list like that
drowsy quest
@sudden ice I mean no ones gonna stop you but I also doubts anyone even remotely cares about it here as it seems
sudden ice
xD
clever swan
wtvr i gata find this shit out myself ty for the help guys
vocal rivet
I played the new FS, I have some issues with it
like for example the cockpits being restructured for no apparent reason, and the gps completely missing
drowsy quest
Seems like I was wrong
vocal rivet
Sorry haha
sudden ice
vocal rivet
I am bored rn as I cant sleep because of these dam fleas
sudden ice
fleas?
vocal rivet
Yes, I am visiting a friend and their cat seems to have fleas, and they already layd eggs in the bedroom carpet xP
gilded nova
ew
vocal rivet
walk over it and you have a ton of them on your legs
sudden ice
ewwwwww
vocal rivet
I swear to any higher being, I will get a gas grenade against fleas tommorow and gas this apartment
sudden ice
lmao
vocal rivet
I am serious. This is so bad, there is no other way then this
vocal rivet
because we make our own 😎
clever swan
because they all have devs?
robust walrus
helpchat barry, luckperms clippy, minecraft community support absol
i know they have devs
but how come its the mc servers
that have the coolEST bots
vocal rivet
Because? MC devs are also gamers haha
clever swan
^
robust walrus
lmao
clever swan
P R O G A M E R S might i add
robust walrus
:D
sudden ice
Can I be honest
Pls don’t flame me
So idk how to code at all so I use this tool that helps me make discord bots and it’s so worth the $10 imo
robust walrus
discord bot maker on Steam? lmao
sudden ice
Yeah
sudden ice
Or just buy a cheap VPS
robust walrus
mhm
sudden ice
That’s cool
vocal rivet
you can code all that yourself :3
robust walrus
yes :D
sudden ice
Except it’s hard for me to learn anything
robust walrus
oooof
sudden ice
Mhm
grand hedge
grand hedge
@robust walrus can u join my server to maybe see the issue?
grand hedge
grand hedge
ya
robust walrus
@gilded nova do you know Tab discord?
outer vesselBOT
Hey 🌹RoseTheGamer❤! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.
robust walrus
!tab
outer vesselBOT
Sorry! I do not understand the command !tab
Type !help for a list of commands.
gilded nova
mm no I don't lol
robust walrus
oof
gilded nova
grand hedge
thx
robust walrus
ez
tight chasm
@tight chasm 5zig is a client side mod that can organise chats. I used it when I was admin to filter staff chats, social spy, logs etc to one side of the screen and then global chat to the other side
@steady tangle thats not work its 1.15.2 i play 1.16.1 :/
sudden ice
I don’t understand clients tbh
steady tangle
Ach, rip
tight chasm
yeah
only found tabbychat but i think thats only tabs and not create a seconde chat on right side for private messages
gilded nova
No
gilded nova
!
outer vesselBOT
robust walrus
Hmmm
robust walrus
nah