nah this keyboard just broke
#general
short warren
gilded nova
Lovely
short warren
i kind of wanna ping rooster
vocal rivet
gilded nova
they didnt
vocal rivet
there it is
short warren
@ashen nacelle send that config or youre 
if youre gay then send that config or youre ๐
gilded nova
LOLOLOL
short warren
yeah theyre still here
gilded nova
๐
short warren
yeah thats why i changed it a second after sending it
short warren
there
gilded nova
here, have your gay
vocal rivet
Fefo did you read the image?
gilded nova
yea
vocal rivet
I searched for it extra for you ^^ <3
gilded nova
aww
idrc anyway because I don't have any global emotes lol
DAMN
Fefo is that dude in the middle
vocal rivet
B-but
gilded nova
rainbow dash is the POV
vocal rivet
I searched extra for you where I saw that announcement
gilded nova
I appreciate the effort ๐
vocal rivet
Hurt ๐ฏ
short warren
nice what toppings
vast isle
pineapple
gilded nova
But do you guys have a slave?
short warren
is that an actual domain?
short warren
nice very cool
gilded nova
But do you guys have a slave?
@gilded nova as a matter of fact, I do too lol
Oh wow
with colour
Yes
My eye
Colored
but its offline
gilded nova
You know what my left eye looks like
Yeah ill track you down
You'll never know about the right eye
its probably rainbow ๐ณ๏ธโ๐
short warren
hmm just mirror the image
gilded nova
Why is your bot offline
short warren
unless you have a deformed right eye
short warren
gilded nova
Your name matches that emote perfectly
short warren
it does though lol
gilded nova
I need to fix my bot
short warren
then go fix your bot
short warren
nice game
vocal rivet
But having the money for WebStorm?
rigid widget
Or student
potent prawn
It's only 5 bucks a month lol
short warren
he doesnt waste his money on nitro lol
gilded nova
^
vocal rivet
VSCode ๐ ๐ฉ
vocal rivet
My FAQ:
Q: Why do you have Nitro?
A: Because I like the features and can do what I want with my money.
gilded nova
Docker
short warren
lol imagine
vocal rivet
I said earlier that to update a docker container you delete and re-create it. But to prevent data loss you are able to use something called persistant storage, that way even when you delete the container, no data will get lost
gilded nova
Interesting
vocal rivet
I can do what I want with my money, and I decided back then that I am going to support a chat platform I use every day, which had no other way of earning money then
short warren
it was a joke calm down
clever swan
symbol: class Economy
location: class flame.duder.FlipCommands```
```java
package flame.duder;
import org.bukkit.Bukkit;
import org.bukkit.command.Command;
import org.bukkit.command.CommandExecutor;
import org.bukkit.command.CommandSender;
import org.bukkit.entity.Player;
public class FlipCommands implements CommandExecutor {
private Economy economy = VaultMain.economy;
@Override
public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command command, String s, String[] args) {
if(sender instanceof Player){
Player player =(Player) sender;
if(command.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("eco")) {
if (args[0].equalsIgnoreCase("deposit"))
if (args.length == 3)
try {
Player target = Bukkit.getPlayer(arge[1]);
int depositAmount = Integer.parseInt(args[2]);
economy.depositPlayer(target, depositAmount);
} catch (Exception e) {
e.printStackTrace();
}
}
}
return true;
}
}```Can someone help me with the error?
vocal rivet
Sorry uwu be careful with sarcasm around me, I never know whrn someone is joking or being sarcastic >~>
Looks like you forgot to import Vault
vocal rivet
Where?
vocal rivet
I could be wrong but I think each file that uses vault ressources needs to import it
clever swan
java: package net.milkbowl.vault.economy does not exist
vocal rivet
its above the code
clever swan
Now I get this error
gilded nova
ohh
clever swan
economy is imported
import net.milkbowl.vault.economy.Economy;
and now I get this error
java: package net.milkbowl.vault.economy does not exist
gilded nova
is vault a dependency?
clever swan
well yeah, that's the eco plugin I want to use for mine
gilded nova
Is that an error that is in the server console or IDE terminal?
clever swan
clever swan
it happens when I try to build the artifacts
gilded nova
Are you using maven or Gradle or you're just importing the jars manually as a dependency?
definitely seems like you dont actually have the API
clever swan
im using maven
gilded nova
Mind sharing the pom.xml?
<repositories>
<repository>
<id>jitpack.io</id>
<url>https://jitpack.io</url>
</repository>
</repositories>
<dependencies>
<dependency>
<groupId>com.github.MilkBowl</groupId>
<artifactId>VaultAPI</artifactId>
<version>1.7</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
</dependencies>```delicious
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Please use https://bytebin.lucko.me to send files in the future. I have automatically uploaded message.txt for you: https://bytebin.lucko.me/dtbLXgVll9
clever swan
the messages.txt is the pom.xml
gilded nova
You dont have vault api in there
clever swan
how would I add it?
gilded nova
Google it?
clever swan
I thought you just have to import the api?
gilded nova
<repositories>
<repository>
<id>jitpack.io</id>
<url>https://jitpack.io</url>
</repository>
</repositories>
<dependencies>
<dependency>
<groupId>com.github.MilkBowl</groupId>
<artifactId>VaultAPI</artifactId>
<version>1.7</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
</dependencies>```VaultAPI
I thought you just have to import the api?
Well yes, in the pom file . _.
clever swan
ty
gilded nova
Who the fuck names themself milkbowl
clever swan
lol
clever swan
would I add a new <repositories>
gilded nova
Yes
clever swan
epic ty
clever swan
ah ok
gilded nova
<repository>
<id>jitpack.io</id>
<url>https://jitpack.io</url>
</repository>``` This to repositories
<repositories>
<repository>
<id>jitpack.io</id>
<url>https://jitpack.io</url>
</repository>
</repositories>
<dependencies>
<dependency>
<groupId>com.github.MilkBowl</groupId>
<artifactId>VaultAPI</artifactId>
<version>1.7</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
</dependencies>```
this would be good? <dependency>
<groupId>com.github.MilkBowl</groupId>
<artifactId>VaultAPI</artifactId>
<version>1.7</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>``` This to dependsno
you just copied and pasted the whole shabang
clever swan
Oh, I see
<repositories>
<repository>
<id>spigotmc-repo</id>
<url>https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/</url>
</repository>
<repository>
<id>jitpack.io</id>
<url>https://jitpack.io</url>
</repository>
<repository>
<id>sonatype</id>
<url>https://oss.sonatype.org/content/groups/public/</url>
</repository>
</repositories>
<dependencies>
<dependency>
<groupId>org.spigotmc</groupId>
<artifactId>spigot-api</artifactId>
<version>1.16.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
<dependency>
<groupId>com.github.MilkBowl</groupId>
<artifactId>VaultAPI</artifactId>
<version>1.7</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
</dependencies>
</project>```would that be correct?
gilded nova
Should be fine
clever swan
alright thank you
gilded nova
Computers smh
clever swan
I still get the same error
clever swan
save it yes
clever swan
ight
gilded nova
You do have code to actually setup the API right?
clever swan
NO NO NO I FORGOT TO SAVE
gilded nova
lol
clever swan
holy shit i got a fucking heart attack
gilded nova
Please do not use that filthy language
clever swan
sorry man
gilded nova
kidding
clever swan
lol
private boolean setupEconomy() {
RegisteredServiceProvider<Economy> economyProvider = getServer().getServicesManager().getRegistration(net.milkbowl.vault.economy.Economy.class);
if (economyProvider != null) {
economy = economyProvider.getProvider();
}
return (economy != null);
}
}```but yeah I do have the code for vault
clever swan
Ok, I did everything there no errors
java: cannot find symbol
symbol: variable economy
location: class flame.duder.VaultMain```
but i still get this errornow fix it
gilded nova
What did you do to fix it?
gilded nova
like your plugin works?
gilded nova
I have a feeling its most definitely not going to work
clever swan
same
gilded nova
Lol
clever swan
you were right...
[20:36:09 ERROR]: Could not load 'plugins\DuderFlips.jar' in folder 'plugins'
org.bukkit.plugin.InvalidPluginException: Cannot find main class `flame.duder.Duder'
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.<init>(PluginClassLoader.java:66) ~[spigot-1.8.8.jar:git-Spigot-db6de12-18fbb24]
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.loadPlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:131) ~[spigot-1.8.8.jar:git-Spigot-db6de12-18fbb24]
at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.loadPlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:329) ~[spigot-1.8.8.jar:git-Spigot-db6de12-18fbb24]
at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.loadPlugins(SimplePluginManager.java:251) [spigot-1.8.8.jar:git-Spigot-db6de12-18fbb24]
clever swan
it is
gilded nova
> Make sure main class is the same as your main class
Tim__#9094
Whats your main class
flame.duder.what
Make sure it extends JavaPlugin
gilded nova
Its trying to find that
so its not the same
change it in plugin.yml
smfh
to flame.duder.VaultMain
or whatever it is
clever swan
it is
gilded nova
NO ITS NOT
clever swan
no idea
gilded nova
mvn clean package
wtf is this then
you cannot tell me terminal pulled this out of its ass
Recompile it basically
clever swan
ok ill recompile it
gilded nova
But make sure to clean the current compiled ones so it doesn't take anything in it
rigid widget
better than being from down under
clever swan
uhhh
rigid widget
imagine living upside down
gilded nova
Australia is the best county
short warren
debatable
gilded nova
I once went there
nope
I almost got killed by a palm tree
wtf
how
10/10 would go visit Cairns again
I used to live in cairns
short warren
if i could move anywhere right now i would probably move to denmark or germany
gilded nova
Ah yeah
short warren
whats wrong with germans though?
gilded nova
gilded nova
learn jarv
potent prawn
aussie pretty cool tho ngl
gilded nova
it is
short warren
yeah i would move to Australia if i had the chance
gilded nova
Turbo have you been to cairns?
short warren
learn jarv
@gilded nova java?
potent prawn
nah i haven't been north of noosa
potent prawn
when i'm allowed to cross the QLD border, sure lol
gilded nova
๐
short warren
wait is java a different thing then javascript
potent prawn
username checks out
gilded nova
L
O
L
short warren
lol i only know basic c# 
gilded nova
Lmfaol
javascript is the same as java
and skript is the same as javascript
html is a fork of java
and c# is close to c++ which is a fork of scratch
๐
gilded nova
lol
rigid widget
it's noon wtf
rigid widget
what time specifically turbotailz
gilded nova
might smoke a cone and do jack shit today
That's everyday bro
potent prawn
10:53am
gilded nova
8 hours in front
rigid widget
no
potent prawn
my next meeting isn't until 3:30 do you think anyone at work will notice if i sleep all day?
gilded nova
No
potent prawn
sweet
rigid widget
last time you slept before a meeting iirc you missed it
short warren
can someone other than tim answer that question, im to lazy to open firefox
gilded nova
what question
gilded nova
Whats wrong with my answer?
potent prawn
was that a serious question
short warren
yeah 
potent prawn
yes, they are very very different
rigid widget
^
gilded nova
they are the same
short warren
alright which one is the one i should learn
gilded nova
dont listen to turbo hes trolling
potent prawn
javascript is the only language that is run in the browser
rigid widget
like car and carpet, as Brainstone once yelled into my skull
short warren
so java right?
potent prawn
java is installed on 3 billion devices worldwide
java is like the pitbull of languages
gilded nova
LOL
rigid widget
over 3 billion turbo
short warren
alright which editor thing should i use to learn
potent prawn
intelliJ for java
short warren
alright
gilded nova
or vscode
rigid widget
no
potent prawn
lol no
rigid widget
intellij
potent prawn
don't listen to tim
rigid widget
Tim, stop trolling innocent people
rigid widget
-.-
rigid widget
plugins are java programs...
gilded nova
you know what i mean
potent prawn
sure, you can use VS code but IntelliJ is much better for Java development
rigid widget
you can try with VSCode but it's like driving a wagon (red, pulled by momma) vs a lambo
gilded nova
^ Not true
Just depends what youre doing
Intellij is designed for Java ||(and kotlin)|| development
rigid widget
Alright Tim, whatever
short warren
whats kotlin
rigid widget
Java but better
gilded nova
Doesn't matter
potent prawn
i didn't know a language could have a sexuality
rigid widget
^
gilded nova
They can
short warren
alright any good yt tutorials for java?
potent prawn
does that mean kotlin is only attracted to other kotlins?
rigid widget
I mean, have you heard french?
potent prawn
french is pretty gay
gilded nova
loloolol
rigid widget
French definitely has a sexuality, just dunno what it is
if you say so turbo
takes one to know one
potent prawn
oui oui
rigid widget
hon hon hon
potent prawn
frog slurping intensifies
rigid widget
frogue*
rigid widget
hah
gilded nova
Ha ha ha
rigid widget
fun pun
gilded nova
I reinstalled windows haha
potent prawn
WINDOWS-10
potent prawn
windowSex
potent prawn
wow, pro version even
rigid widget
hyello mi neame ees beel gets! eenstol veendohs frum mee foh much gud perrfurmens!
gilded nova
potent prawn
is it really
gilded nova
Kewl
short warren
wow imagine actually paying for it
gilded nova
heh
Someone gifted me one a month back lol
Two as a matter of fact
One was student version or whatever
Fucking useless
yeah
The other one was the real deal
I just have a code
and I put it in
and it activates
amazing right?
short warren
but do you have a license 
?
potent prawn
i bought a cheap key off some dodgy site. it didn't work, so i called MS and they validated it for me. so kind of them x
gilded nova
Lol
gilded nova
I bought my key off g2a
potent prawn
lol it's a trick i found online
rigid widget
i just use my email
potent prawn
like they always activate it if you do that
just means you have to deal with their shitty call service
rigid widget
it's got a windows license on it and if I give windows my email it just allows me to validate
potent prawn
33 bucka
potent prawn
what a steal
short warren
trying to convert my crappy i3 laptop to elementary os
its so slow to enter anything
and ive had to restart like 10 times now
gilded nova
Dafaq
potent prawn
i wish i knew how to fix my toshiba laptop so i can run linux on it :(
gilded nova
what's wrong with it?
vast isle
bad battery?
gilded nova
smudges
potent prawn
and also it doesn't boot into a usb too
gilded nova
smudges everywhere
potent prawn
lol yeah it's a touch screen
short warren
I set my bios to boot into the usb with the .iso file on it and it booted into windows
gilded nova
can you at least enter the bios setup?
short warren
am i doing something wrong
potent prawn
this happened when i was switching the drive out with another one
i think bios works
gilded nova
I set my bios to boot into the usb with the .iso file on it and it booted into windows
did you burn the image into the usb drive?
was i supposed to
gilded nova
yeah you can't just throw an .iso in there and expect it'll work lol
short warren
how can i convert an iso into a whatever type it needs to be
short warren
alright i got rufus
potent prawn
Ye bios works just had to figure out which key lol
gilded nova
you tried every function key, right? lmao
potent prawn
I googled it
gilded nova
pf
potent prawn
F2
gilded nova
and can't you boot from a usb drive from the bios setup first?
potent prawn
Blah I don't have a USB
short warren
which one is an iso
short warren
that means that you need to pick one right?
gilded nova
lgtm
potent prawn
stole my flatmates usb lul
short warren
gilded nova
LMFAO
short warren
wtf am i supposed to do now lol
gilded nova
run rufus as admin? idk
short warren
im computing imaging or something now
i just clicked something random lol
nope still didnt work in admin
guess ill not be lazy and look it up
gilded nova
idk man, format that usb drive completely
short warren
looked it up and its because the image im trying to burn or something is located on the drive ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
gilded nova
๐
๐
New comment on issue #2616: luckperms
did they just straight up named the issue "luckperms"? lol
potent prawn
cute
gilded nova
mash f11 on boot
or f12
or f10
or f8
maybe f2
worst case scenario, tab or del
maybe f56
like wtf
short warren
ive seen delete more than f2 or f8
gilded nova
plot twist
f54
fun fact, windows (idk about other OSs) have support for not 12 but 24 function keys
is 5 f9's + 2 f2's
from F1 to F24 lol
short warren
yeah its pretty nice for macros
gilded nova
true
short warren
It worked!
gilded nova
LMFAO
short warren
thanks for the help lol
gilded nova
nice
potent prawn
SO FUCKING BOOT INTO IT
gilded nova
Mac Turbo
potent prawn
i mean it's not
rigid widget
newest dish at maccas
rigid widget
no, i meant that shiny black bordered all glass screen
gilded nova
blame open software
Larry
CraftyChat
I mean no offense to no one but, what the hell is this name xD
potent prawn
Definitely not a mac
potent prawn
this thing old af
rigid widget
yep
potent prawn
it better work after this install lol
rigid widget
I think my toshiba satellite was from like 2010
It's still working alright too, for what it is
rigid widget
ooh fancy yeah you're right I miscalculated
potent prawn
took me years to pay off
rigid widget
that's perfect
potent prawn
cause i know how shitty laptops can get
rigid widget
I hate laptops now, though school really likes if i use them
i mean, it makes sense when you have to go to school
potent prawn
i did end up replacing the HDD with SSD which significantly improved it
rigid widget
huh, never thought to do that
potent prawn
this thing is so bulky though compared to the macbook lmao
potent prawn
i do like that it's touchscreen tho
potent prawn
OMG IT'S BOOTING
potent prawn
god i can't believe it was that easy
short warren
what os are you using? ubuntu?
gilded nova
FASTER
short warren
ayy elementary kind of works
now i just need to fix the bios because it still tries to boot to the flash drive
gilded nova
lol
short warren
but i have no idea how to get into bios since im pretty sure the oem disabled it
i had to use some weird thing in windows
potent prawn
i'm now logged in to discord on 4 different operating systems
gilded nova
sucks to be you
gilded nova
I would have never in my life expected to actually make use of something called "BiFunction"
damn look at those colors turbo
you'll get all the minecraft color codes in there
gilded nova
could you move the phone a bit more while taking the pic?
I can still read what it says so if you could move it more
potent prawn
legible
gilded nova
turbo
you're a programmer
I need your help
I need a better naming convention.......
gilded nova
Eeh how the f do I explain this
vast isle
I feel like the only person who doesn't use final for absolutely everything possible
short warren
It fucking worked for real this time
gilded nova
There is a reason why I make it so explicit
lemme find the reason
That's the reason
vast isle
> 1 hour long video
> no timestamp
gilded nova
it's the talk as a whole ๐
vast isle
I will just agree to not question it in the future then lol
gilded nova
how are they used
@potent prawn They'll be supplier methods for classes instances fetched through reflection. One thing is for sure, none of the provided classes' constructors take more than 2 arguments
If they were to take 3 I'd have to invent a TriFunction lol
potent prawn
java things
ok
gilded nova
basically
those will be the interfaces through which you'll get the class instance
they'll call the proper constructor
Turbo is a slut for a zinger box. I know it
and they can take either one, two or no arguments
potent prawn
Turbo is a slut for a zinger box. I know it
@gilded nova lol what
i mean i am
but how did you gather that
potent prawn
The four horsemen of the OS apocalypse
rigid widget
What's the camera running on
rigid widget
Ah
shell swan
why do you have Mac then (:
also android lol
@potent prawn
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Hey iH4xz! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.
shell swan
lol I was talking dude
shell swan
Larry I forgot the Quote will tag ppl ! lol (:
potent prawn
it's okay i don't nearly get as mad about pings as some other people do
rigid widget
I'm just a humble mod, enforcing the rules. The most humble mod of all, in fact
Fefo you're gonna want to see that one
gilded nova
@regal trench Yeah that may be why i agree
Its like a huge queue basically
Does anyone know what this isnt working https://gyazo.com/4df37b9a5d567dddbcb2cb700c9a5aef
potent prawn
imagine running a server
violet rivet
I wonder if all these plugins will work on 1.16.3...
lets throw it onto a production server
potent prawn
what could go wrong
violet rivet
Yeah I just looked up the changelog
drowsy quest
Itโd be shocking if there were any complications
gilded nova
drowsy quest
Boring. That page doesn't exist
normal surge
i just updated to 1.16.3 yesterday and several of my plugins got messed up, including holograms and grief prevention
holograms just refuses to work, and grief prevention has some minor issues where pets are not protected like they were before
though i did go straight from 1.16.1 to 1.16.3, so maybe it was 1.16.2 that did some of that
gilded nova
1.16.2 changed something with JSON
modest compass
yea 1.16.2 broke stuff
gilded nova
Should check to see if your plugins either can be updated
and if you can revert time, go back and dont update
ionic birch
Someone just dropped their wallet in this channel! Hurry and pick it up with ~grab before someone else gets it!
gilded nova
Are you alright?
modest compass
some ppl are just..
potent prawn
๐ฌ
gilded nova
There are some weird cunts in this Discord let me tell you
main agate
p-p
short warren
have any of you used linux mint?
potent prawn
i only ever hear about it and not what it brings to the table
potent prawn
๐ณ๏ธโ๐
short warren
nice cable management
gilded nova
Hehe
short warren
Im surprised your house hasnt gotten burnt down yet
short warren
that single corsair fan probably costs more than most of those parts combined
well a single rgb corsair fan costs as much as your cpu
gilded nova
Literally
short warren
Is it decent?
drowsy quest
Depends xD
Like what do you want to do with the computer and what's important to you
drowsy quest
Get KDE neon
drowsy quest
The underlying Ubuntu is a good choice
In theory you could install that DE on almost any linux system
But if you don't have too much experience with Linux Ubuntu is a great option
I meant KDE Plasma as the DE
But KDE neon is a good base system too
Kubuntu is a good alternative
gilded nova
Man I should really switch to Linux, there is literally no specific reason for me to use Windows and it'd be a huge plus if I did, but I need to fix the stupid WiFi dongle drivers that don't work in "newer" versions of the kernel and I so really don't want to do that
drowsy quest
That's odd
gilded nova
While they keep it updated for Windows
Eeh one day I'll switch and do something about it
But not today
peak isle
anyone know why i can't delete a world with multiverse /mv delete World. i just get "world 'world' could NOT be deleted
gilded nova
do you have other worlds?
onyx sentinel
oh yeah thats dumb it just does that now
onyx sentinel
you have to go to your server hosting thing and delete the world file from there
peak isle
i went into config and deleted them but there still there
gilded nova
I think you need to change the main world in your server.properties, not sure tho
because, y'know... it's the main world
peak isle
my main world is a different world
peak isle
1 sec
gilded nova
you'll also need to restart (if you change it) and delete it when no players are in there
gilded nova
And unload it as well probably lol idk how mv works with that part
onyx sentinel
yeah once you delete it you have to unload it and restart
but If i remember i think i tried that but it just kept staying theree and I kept getting error messages and couldnt connect to another world or make another one
so hopefully that doesnt happen to you
gilded nova
Ideally you would just need to change the level-name, restart, unload and delete and it should work smoothly
With no players on in the world
peak isle
nothing changed still won't delete anything
gilded nova
No players in there?
gilded nova
Man I should really switch to Linux, there is literally no specific reason for me to use Windows and it'd be a huge plus if I did, but I need to fix the stupid WiFi dongle drivers that don't work in "newer" versions of the kernel and I so really don't want to do that
Youre telling me you use wifi?
Dayum
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peak isle
no one have an idea's? my server is really laggy with all these worlds
gilded nova
how many worlds do you have loaded
sly swift
Hey, just curious if anyone knew the answer to this question: how are minigame servers monetized?. I was thinking about switching from Factions to bring a minigame server but Iโm not sure how I would monetize it, selling ranks for things like Prison, Skyblock and Factions is pretty straight forward, doesnโt seem that way for minigames
drowsy quest
Sell cosmetics
And btw, selling anything that grants an ingame advantage is against the EULA
sly swift
Yeah that's what I figured
Do you know anything about how much it costs to start a server like that and how much they would make? In my mind it's costly to start and probably doesn't make much money until it has a few hundred players active.
I'm not trying to ONLY make money, but I'm gaging whether or not it would be a good investment
drowsy quest
Well it depends on what you want to do
But your major costs are hosting and maybe premium plugins
Most servers are struggling to cover cost
And if you don't want to go too crazy on hosting you should be fine with a budget of $50/month
sly swift
Jeez okay I was expecting like $800/month or something
gilded nova
LOL
sly swift
Well the server would have a few different minigames on it (skywars, bedwars, etc)
short warren
just get a vps
short warren
you could even get 2 vpss for that
sly swift
vps?
short warren
is that just a dedi?
short warren
alright thanks
drowsy quest
$50/month will get you a decent server at a reputable hoster
sly swift
And then I would use bungeecord to connect them?
drowsy quest
Yes
short warren
use velocity
drowsy quest
Either is fine
short warren
if youre on the bukkit ecosystem
drowsy quest
Depends on the plugins you want to throw on there
sly swift
And I would need a different server for each gamemode, yes?
drowsy quest
But in any case be aware that you'll struggle making the $50/month back
And I would need a different server for each gamemode, yes?
No.
You can
It really depends on your setup
short warren
if possible you could try to downscale and upscale to what you need
because you might not need a great server for a while
depending on your playerbase
sly swift
We'll be recruiting a youtuber to make videos/stream on the server so I am expecting a good amount of players
short warren
alright nice
drowsy quest
Cute
sly swift
He only has about 5k on youtube cause he just started but he's got 2.2m on tiktok
drowsy quest
You'll get 0.1% to 1% of the YTers subscribers on your server at most
20 players
I mean like 20 active players
sly swift
Yeah I getchu, what about the tiktok?
drowsy quest
That's factored in
sly swift
He did a video for us a week or so ago and we got 300 players on (not at one time of course)
But I have a Factions server atm and it doesn't really fit his audience
short warren
but that doesnt matter because a very small amount of them will stay
drowsy quest
Are those turning into regulars or are they just visting?
I'm not counting vistors or players that play like 1-5 times
Because those won't pay
sly swift
Just visiting, like I said I don't think it's the right server for his audience (younger kids)
younger kids that watch quick tiktok videos of a guy screaming
drowsy quest
Yeah
short warren
also, with your planned minigame server, are you planning to hire devs to create minigames?
drowsy quest
He might as well not have the TikTok
The target audience is too young for it to matter
sly swift
Well we're managing the money he makes through social media
I suggested he makes a youtube channel and play minecraft
I figured people like gamerboy80 and Technoblade got their start playing minigame servers
I think he has a similar audience as those two
drowsy quest
Btw an alternative would be to throw money at the server.
In other words get actual staff and have everything be professionally made. You should be able to get a return on investment in 6-12 months
But the inital investment is high
short warren
but you really need to have something cool about your server
dont have a crappy eggwars server
drowsy quest
but you really need to have something cool about your server
@short warren absolutely not ๐
The most profitable servers are the least unique
sly swift
I just don't understand where that money comes from, I've played so many factions/skyblock servers that I'm used to getting something in return. I can't justify buying a rank for a tag or pet or something
short warren
true, but that will give you a decent boost
drowsy quest
Like for example what's special about Hypixel other than the size?
sly swift
Their skyblock
short warren
Hypixel was one of the first minigame servers
sly swift
But that wasn't always there
short warren
and they release new gamemodes often
short warren
well thats their special
drowsy quest
And they've been in the game the longest
short warren
they have good minigames, and theyre just the trusted server
drowsy quest
Yeah but they don't have anything special in terms of gameplay
Whatever you find on there you'll find on so many other servers
short warren
if you were the first of its kind (2b2t, hypixel) its a pretty good chance of it being succesful
sly swift
Here's what I'm tryna say.
I spent $80 making the current server I have right now (Factions)
In less than a month, we have made $300, $100 of which is recurring monthly
Is that type of return possible with a minigame server?
short warren
Yeah but they don't have anything special in terms of gameplay
@drowsy quest I didnt mean gameplay, i meant just general server. Hypixel has just general trust from being old and an active dev team
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drowsy quest
Here's what I'm tryna say.
I spent $80 making the current server I have right now (Factions)
In less than a month, we have made $300, $100 of which is recurring monthlyIs that type of return possible with a minigame server?
@sly swift Sure
Won't be easy but it's possible
@drowsy quest I didnt mean gameplay, i meant just general server. Hypixel has just general trust from being old and an active dev team
@short warren Of course. But I meant special in terms of what they offer.
And being a trusted server is not what I would count as special
Or it all ties in with them being so huge
And I said ignoring that they have nothing special
short warren
also you dont need to wait for a game to start in hypixel due to its size
sly swift
Yeah I figured that would be another big issue
short warren
that first group of players from the tiktoks and stuff might be able to help though, as it will at least give that for a week or two
silent knot
i put it here, way turn of the server for a week? way not 1 year?
short warren
yeah just get the standard stuff
gilded nova
k
short warren
i put it here, way turn of the server for a week? way not 1 year?
@silent knot just shut it down?
k
@gilded nova by that i mean like just essentialsx
nothing else
gilded nova
k
silent knot
lol XD can you give some reason way?
forest helm
am confusion
silent knot
hm, that i doo? is it with players you mean?
short warren
im so confused
silent knot
I do all testing on testserver, and ultra premission cryp the mysql. so i have to add players manually
forest helm
I sense a translation issue
short warren
yeah
gilded nova
how do I have me and my friends the default group in luckperms or we already are?
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
gilded nova
and how do I add permission to it like what command
short warren
!usage @gilded nova
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
gilded nova
k thx
short warren
and then once you know the basics use /lp editor
gilded nova
k
forest helm
!editor
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
silent knot
I gueas you dont understand what i try to do usually?
forest helm
Yeah we aren't sure what you're trying to do or need help with
silent knot
I only whant a way do add in players and it seams to work, i cant import from my premisson plugin to luck perms (i have to paste it manually) api is not poblic and database is crypted.
forest helm
Are you trying to import from UltraPermissions?
silent knot
yes
forest helm
yeah unfortunatly since there isn't any form of api for UPerms, you will have to migrate manually
silent knot
I have do it for hand
forest helm
It sucks, and we'd love to be able to have a migration system for it, but it isn't physically possible
silent knot
and players perm is a pain (300 players and probely more)
groupperms was not so fun but after 500 perms pasted is it done now.
and next problem are to add all players to right group. I can do it manually or "reset" ranks for players so they rank up agen (they auto come back to right rank and goups set it seft right so long i set right commands).
worn ocean
anyone know how i can add like custom commands when you do /discord It Responds Withdiscord link here
same with /website = www.link.com
gilded nova
Ezlinks?
clever swan
anyone know what java: cannot find symbol means?
gilded nova
Means you're trying to use a variable/object that doesn't exist at that point
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clever swan
anyone wanna help with that error I get when I execute the command?
gilded nova
You're running the plugin on 1.8.x and you probably made it for a 1.13+ API
clever swan
I have no errors anywhere
misty cradle
you won't have errors during compile time as you've built it correctly against a specific version of the spigot API
clever swan
oh ok thank you
misty cradle
if you're plan is to support multiple versions and not just 1.8.8, then you'll need to consider the not-so-fun reflection methods
clever swan
nah itll be just 1.8.8
misty cradle
in that case, just switching the dependency in your pom will suffice
rigid widget
@gilded nova what
clever swan
I just got to find the VaultAPI for 1.8.8
gilded nova
I stabbed my damn hand
misty cradle
pretty sure vault is compatible with all versions
gilded nova
Vault is version independent
clever swan
gilded nova
Vault is version independent
clever swan
ok
misty cradle
it has been a while since I've used vault (spigot --> sponge), but looks like 1.7.1 specifies 1.13 and above now
gilded nova
That's because it initialized the legacy materials api
That's why the 1.13 thing got added, but it didn't change a thing internally (other than a bug fix I think)
clever swan
whenever i change <version>1.16.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version> to <version>1.8.8</version> it doesnt work
misty cradle
ahh ok, that makes more sense
what you mean it doesn't work?
Like it's not pulling the new dependency? It's not compiling?
gilded nova
Add the -r0.1-whatever part
clever swan
hold on i think i fixed it