I'm the most used to lp
#general
outer vesselBOT
ripe pumice
Well for us we use metatag
gilded nova
I have EssentialsX
ripe pumice
Luckperms allow to drop meta tag almost anywhere using placeholderapi
gilded nova
Wait, so what do I have to change?
ripe pumice
Your chat syntaxe if you want to parse info in chat
Look into essentials chat config part
gilded nova
Got it working! Thanks for the help!
ripe pumice
If you want to show multiple rank togetter in chat i highly suggest your to use meta prefix and suffix if you have more than 3 rank
rigid widget
!stacking works lol
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
ripe pumice
Well it was not in the version i was using
And we just use meta tag instead doing more flexibility
Speaking of the v4
We upgraded to v5
Ha requure configuration
Xd
Thats maybe why we didnt make it to work
modest compass
!upgrade
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
gilded nova
What's essentials money placeholder?
modest compass
!moss
outer vesselBOT
still dirge
%dollary_doos%
glass thunder
Hi there!
So i'm having some troubles with MariaDB and second dedicated server. I have 2 dedicated server with i7 9k, 64GB DDR4, 2TB SSD M.2 set to Raid 1. Server 1 is set to hold only websites, databases.. etc etc and Server 2 only to hold mark2, mc servers and stuff related to Minecraft. I'm using IPtables and FirewallD, if you want i can post my scripts for each server here. So when i am trying to connect plugin to this server with databases i get spammy message in console saying "No route to host". Does anyone know how can i fix this? Do i need to whitelist IP from MC machine to Database server or something else? I also changed port from 22 to xxxx and set iptables for pinging and couple small secure stuff. Also i was wondering if cPanel is somehow good to be installed?
I hope i do find someone who knows anything about this.
Kind regards, Damijan
vocal rivet
IPTables and FirewallD ?
Yes, you need to "Whitelist IPs" for databases, when you create a user ( e.g. CREATE USER username@'<host>' IDENTIFIED BY 'password';) You need to replace the <host> with the IP of the machine that connects to the database. For example if I want 192.168.0.2 to have access I need to do CREATE USER usernqme@'192.168.0.2' IDENTIFIED BY 'password';
Furthermore that error seems to be routing related, can you check what your IP Routes are? Maybe the Default gateway is missing.
For the last thing, cPanel and Plesk are good, but hella expensive, if you want good free alternatives: ISPConfig, Webmin or Cockpit ( well thats more direct server management )
oh and also by default mysql does not allow connections from the outside, you need to look in the /etc/mysql folder for a option called bind-address and set it to 0.0.0.0
stray temple
does anyone know how to edit the messages of a plugin without there being a messages.yml file? I dont see one generated, and there is no way to edit the messages in the config.
latent tendon
does someone know if JDA supports embeds.
bc i can't find anything about it
idle plaza
uh you can decompile it and edit the strings @stray temple
idle plaza
but first check if theres a locale for your language
you might be able to edit that
instead
stray temple
locale?
stray temple
I dont really know how to code past configs and that lmao
idle plaza
if theres not that then decompile it using http://java-decompiler.github.io/
stray temple
someone told me to use thishttps://leonardosnt.github.io/jar-string-editor/
idle plaza
thats less steps
stray temple
So which do I use?
idle plaza
i bet https://leonardosnt.github.io/jar-string-editor/ decompiles, edits, and recompiles for you
so
it really doesnt matter
latent tendon
wait, recompiles?!?
stray temple
Oh ok Ill just use the web thing cause idk how this stuff works
idle plaza
it also recompiles
stray temple
I put in the jar file
idle plaza
ye those are all the strings
stray temple
So I replace the words I want to replace with my words?
stray temple
so for example if I wanted to change this for some reason to "get out of here" I would just replace it with "get out of here"?
idle plaza
ye
stray temple
Ok lemme do all this real quick
stray temple
wait, so if I wanted to change the command as well I could do it in here???
stray temple
so im trying to edit a bingo plugin
If i want to make this command "/f leave" I just replace bingo with f?
idle plaza
no clue
thats the problem with string editors like that
you have no clue
what code ur actually editing
stray temple
Oh
@idle plaza If i mess something up will my server be ruined or
Will I just have to delete the .jar file
stray temple
oh ok
idle plaza
theyre just strings
stray temple
Idk what strings are
stray temple
oh wait
idle plaza
stray temple
So
idle plaza
that should explain
stray temple
I changed the command
But the thing is
It only changed teh message
to say to do a different command
If I actually type the command it tells us to do
It says uknown command
idle plaza
ye bc you just edited the string
if you want to edit the plugin
decompile it and edit it in a ide like eclipse
and then recompile it into a jar
idle plaza
eclipse is the ide
most plugins are compiled with maven
so you prob need that too
stray temple
Do I need to download all this?
idle plaza
ye
stray temple
Can I just delete it after
idle plaza
unless you want to edit another one
stray temple
oh
somber rampart
gradle or maven for multi module project
long grotto
Anyone here use BungeeGuard successfully with 1.8.8?
rigid widget
it needs a recent version of Paper, aka 1.15 basically
to the best of my knowledge at least
you can try paper 1.8.8 if you havent yet
long grotto
I have, doesn't work. All good, I'll just use iptables I guess ๐
wide sphinx
Does Lp handle where each rank is in the tablist?
violet rivet
You need a separate plugin to do that.
wide sphinx
Ok thank you
thick hull
obsidian osprey
?
does anybody know how to save in mysql
forest helm
drowsy quest
!bulkedit for me
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
queen wadi
what plugin is best for /rankup?
forest helm
rigid widget
?
topaz palm
for some reason
I have a staff channel on my discord right
like staff chat or whatever
and all of a sudden, normal members can see it
like out of nowhere
no permissions were changed
rigid widget
hmm, weird, but something was probably changed (or they have betterdiscord, but that would only be them seeing the channel, not into it or its messages)
topaz palm
its messed up
rigid widget
with/without your knowledge i mean, the most likely explanation is something changed
lament kayak
is it possible players could have a worse fps and ping experience with network compression turned down to much
rigid widget
like more compression or less
lament kayak
Well....I'm lost on this.....I went from 512mb on the network compression to 64.......and everyone ping seemed to drop......but everyone keeps saying the server is "laggy" and then just leave....It's got over 12GB of ram......I've got 400/mbs download
like
ok 15mbps upload
but still
should be fine for two players
I can't keep anyone on the server....sense everyone says it's too laggy
Yet I've configured this server to what everyone else say is perfect.....
went through that Lag config thing online....
violet rivet
Download speed has nothing to do with a server
You want a high upload speed.
You are sending info out to players.
Not downloading it from them.
lament kayak
Right.........but at 15Mbps it should be fine with 10 players.....not having issues with one
or two
or three
rigid widget
depends what you're uploading and to where
if you're in NZ and uploading to the UK, regardless of your speed-to-nearest-provider test it's gonna be hella slower than that
even worse if you're in Australia ( ๐ )
lament kayak
But it should be playable
Nobody stays online
Can you try connecting and see if it's really that bad...
queen wadi
EzRanksPro cost $?
rigid widget
perhaps, not sure
queen wadi
hmm
rigid widget
FakeBull, I can't connect, but I can tell you that you should ask where in the world they are (and tell us where you are too) or run an upload speed test from your computer to their closest ISP
queen wadi
looking for a good rankup plugin that's good
rigid widget
speedtest.net will allow you to select where you're uploading to
@queen wadi try every result that comes when you google it - there are a bunch of options
not necessarily even paid ones
queen wadi
okay thank you
Okay I got https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/rankup.17933/ how do I set the ranks to them and use money?
lament kayak
Alright....so maybe....I was just compressing too often.....
that's what it seems like
cause at 64mbs.....every packet bigger is being compressed which Imagine happens a lot .....just bumped it to 256
rigid widget
@queen wadi I'd look thorough the config and the documentation/wiki for that plugin as well as BossShopPro
never used it before so I can't guide you, but there is enough online that you should be able to figure it out ๐
rigid widget
!errors < for me
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
lament kayak
Larry
rigid widget
ye
lament kayak
any thoughts
First I gotta change the GC flags...I got that one
second though....is it's almost like //fill isn't working
getting large lag spikes when flying around
rigid widget
yes worldedit does = lag if you use too much of it
lament kayak
so if your //fill is too big it could cause issues
rigid widget
yes
modest compass
?? shouldnt you like a chunk generator plugin for that
rigid widget
yeah, or like any form of minecraft map maker
last locust
Sup
lament kayak
Yeah also entitles aren't dying fast enough....over 1k can spawn right now with only two players
rigid widget
you can set limits on entities per player in the bukkit.yml i think
last locust
I'm good, tired. Been learning more in-depth on using Vue and Nuxt all day.
rigid widget
turbo would be proud โค๏ธ
last locust
Ikr
I mentioned it earlier and then he said he would convert the LP Web Editor into Nuxt
rigid widget
is nuxt better?
last locust
It's built on-top of Vue and allows you to do more.
I remade the HelpChat website in Nuxt today. Haven't finished it yet though.
But I was able to cut out a couple 100 lines of code.
rigid widget
nice!
lament kayak
256 is too high.....156 is too low....1k is laggy 0 is laggy
what am I doing wrong here
rigid widget
you're probably hosting too physically far away from the players
lament kayak
No because I'm logging into my server from another computer on the same network and having the same issues
which negates that
modest compass
means your server itself cant keep up
lament kayak
I'm not getting errors on the console...but running the spark profiler does show lots of tick spikes
Like.....you know the message that pops up...server can't keep up
that's not happening
it's an i7 8700k 32gb of ddr4 ram....server is on an NVME ssd.......
like
I think we both agree a setup like that should handle three players just fine
wait..could it be my proxy
Cause I'm compressing with my proxy
and it's only got 2gb of ram
rigid widget
i dont think the proxy is the culprit
lament kayak
I do know that this server isn't running the correct aiker flags atm
sense it's running 13gb of ram I'll go ahead and change those settings
lament kayak
Yeah I know
That's why I don't understand
this server should be able to handle like 120 players
rigid widget
you are using paper yeah
lament kayak
fuck
me too
that's the problem
Try to bump the ram down to 11?
could be the GC is just getting bogged down by the amount of ram it has to clear
causing tps spikes
rigid widget
idk man
rigid widget
that's... extra server resources
if you wanna try and reduce problems
make numbers smaller
modest compass
keep-spawn-loaded-range: 25 wot
lament kayak
my computers fans aren't even spinning
lament kayak
yeah I know it sucks
but if it lags hard when chunks are loading
idk
I'll run a timings
modest compass
also are you using multiverse or something?
lament kayak
Yes
but my servers view distance was at 18
turned that down to 12
fps jumped from 20 to 90
modest compass
dude 18??????????????
modest compass
thats goign to lag a lot
modest compass
its lagging due to network bottleneck
lament kayak
Is that clear because of what I just said about the view distance....less packets sent....equals better performance...so that points to network bottlenecks?
rigid widget
oopsies lol
modest compass
loll
rigid widget
stopping a server ๐
lament kayak
??
rigid widget
!paste << for me
outer vesselBOT
modest compass
its just everything, server cant keep up loading so many chunks, network cant keep up sending so many packets, and client cant keep up processing those packets receive.
kinda a cycle
modest compass
no lol, i think thats for larry himself
rigid widget
?
I'm testing a plugin that I did not make - encountered an error, and needed to log it
modest compass
essentialsX + essentialsXSpawn should be able to do that
outer vesselBOT
rigid widget
FakeBull, fps is clientside
outer vesselBOT
Hey 6four10! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.
lament kayak
Yes
it is
TPS and ping are server side
but why would my fps go up after changing the view distance
I'm on a laptop connected to the wifi
and my server is on a different machine
rigid widget
fps went up?
rigid widget
could be your client is overreaching
make sure the view dist is also the same as server
lament kayak
13 chunks on the client sie
and now 15 on the server side
back up to a solid 50fps
rigid widget
does a b450 handle 3800s?
lament kayak
ok
so another client had their chunks at 9
when the server was at 12
and it got worse for them when I moved from 15 to 12
that doesn't make sense
rigid widget
it's an AM4 socket
you should be good
not really, I'm an intel/geforce user myself
1660ti was a steal when i got it
steel shuttle
im using a 3700x and a 1660 super atm
works great for everything
my first amd cpu though lol
previous ones i owned was an i5-4690k and i7-2600
lol yeah the 7700k's are probably not worth much anymore, seems like they're about on par with the 3300x's amd is coming out with
yeah not much value there atm
best intel atm seems to be a 10600k
steel shuttle
ur prob good
lament kayak
I'm thinking it's because the server isn't running on hardware
it's being virtualized
steel shuttle
i didnt have any problems with my previous gtx 960, i just updated to a 1660 super recently to update my rig a bit
lol
although i dont play any AAA games so maybe i dont need it
rigid widget
!placeholders << for me
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
lament kayak
higher ping.... = higher compression? to lower average pings?
or lower the compression
rigid widget
ping and compression are at best minimally related
ping is a result of physical distance and uncontrollable lag from server to client
lament kayak
spawn-limits:
monsters: 30
animals: 15
water-animals: 3
ambient: 1
and there are 715 entities loaded in with two players online!!??
this could cause lag
XDD
jesus
How is that possible with the settings I have
still dirge
You have to account for entities in spawn, plugins that may be loading entities, etc
Also 15 for animals is above default iirc
lament kayak
Well what's weird is a friend was flying around and when they went back to /home and went away from that area the ent dropped by 500
500!
Like what
for one player??!?
Sounds like I could have something else changing how many??
still dirge
Flying around will do that
Every chunk you load will load the entities in that distance
lament kayak
So how do large servers handle 5k chunks plus being loaded
that must be a crazy amount of ent
lament kayak
Yeah I had set those and it did show improvement but lower those spawn limits more helped
dropped from 800 to 112
azure helm
larry ๐
gilded nova
Someone knows about IPTables?
rigid widget
knarp long time no see
modest compass
hMm
rigid widget
How's it going Ben
modest compass
school lessons are weird, had to write an essay about a dating app
steel shuttle
fun
modest compass
although im taking a cyber security course
steel shuttle
ah yes, well of course dating apps are the most secure
just give us all your personal information and we'll match you up
modest compass
yepp haha
I was suppose to write why older mans like to date younger girls
I gave up
modest compass
yep
rigid widget
Unless your views are 'wrong' to the teacher, in which case it's a bad grade
Though it's psych and that's not cool
Goodness gracious school is dumb
modest compass
"all rounder students" ~ Singapore's education
rigid widget
Mhmmmm sure
modest compass
haha
gilded nova
Lol I accidentally gave crate commands in global context
sleek niche
I hereby determine that the word "ocean" feels like if your tongue is fighting against your teeth. Like for real, ocean is owshn
This freaks me out
woeful willow
My tongue doesn't even touch my teeth when I say ocean
stray temple
hey, so if any of you know skeppy, I kind of want to get a queue/players remaining plugin
queue plugin: kinda self explanatory
players remaining: plugin that counts how many players havent died, and you can revive them(adding them back to the counter and the game) by executing /revive
anyone know these plugins? prob self coded but anyone know anything similar?
modest compass
!verbose for me
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
round sable
Guys i set permissions on my "world".
How to copy all permissions to paste Other worlds?
ฤฐ use bungeecord
rigid widget
Do you want the permissions in every world, like global?
rigid widget
๐
round sable
Yes
topaz palm
I haven't seen jay in a while ๐ฆ
topaz palm
ye he started helping me a ton with pebblehost
he's probably busy on their discord a lot ig
vagrant comet
can somebody look at my selfmade code and can help me?
last locust
Instead of waiting for someone to respond, you should just toss in a paste and wait (:
outer vesselBOT
forest helm
๐
rigid widget
Hey glare
last locust
Sup
last locust
Good. Cube convinced me to buy Minecraft Dungeons today so we just played for about 3 hours.
Cause Turbo and I have questions for himmm.
still dirge
I'm yet to play Minecraft Dungeons ๐ฆ
potent prawn
๐ might help if i actually messaged him looool
last locust
Smfh Turbo
I've been sitting here for an hour
Waiting on a response from you on his response.
last locust
That's fair.
still dirge
๐ด
forest helm
uh doesn't luck live somewhere in the uk
last locust
I'll just work on the MinecraftDev IJ plugin while I wait on a response from them.
rigid widget
Yes but turbo is old
potent prawn
fuck u guys
rigid widget
Love ya turboo
Also what in the world can luck answer that GitHub / Google can't lol
last locust
We need his consent to do something.
rigid widget
:0
forest helm
curious underscore is curious
forest helm
LOL
rigid widget
That's what it is isn't it
vagrant comet
i want to disable the chat complete function
last locust
If I had that much money, I'd probably be a lot happier ๐
rigid widget
Smh my head glare
vagrant comet
but this doesnt work
last locust
I'm back down to $20 since I bought MCD this morning.
rigid widget
Worthittt
last locust
Was worth it though. I can just play and forget to eat so I spend less on food.
rigid widget
Wait you two are the web guys are you wanting to swap the editor to nuxt fr ?
last locust
๐
rigid widget
Ah I see
forest helm
Was worth it though. I can just play and forget to eat so I spend less on food.
Buy Factorio in that case
last locust
Been a bit since I've done web stuff, so I decided to start playing around with it again.
Almost done with the HelpChat website in Nuxt.
twin warren
Luck needs to wake up, smh.
I've been awake for like, 9 hours :p
potent prawn
it's necessary for SEO
last locust
And it also can make a lot of things cleaner that regular Vue can't.
Automatic routing, etc.
potent prawn
and pregenerates the pages instead of everything relying on the client's browser
rigid widget
Well he's here! Ask away :P
rigid widget
Zooooom
twin warren
fazst
rigid widget
I have a feeling Luck isn't opposed ๐
last locust
Sec
twin warren
ofc not
rigid widget
๐ฅณ there ya go
speed needed
rigid widget
Oh well, just give discord moneys
last locust
Ignore the light theme here. I haven't implemented a dark theme yet. Each of those buttons are different pages on the website, all using nuxt's thing.
potent prawn
no transition between pages makes it very snappy ;P
last locust
That's fair.
forest helm
do the links have some hover effect? why are they changing size?
last locust
Also have a lot more cleaning to do. I just took the static html input and started converting it.
They have some animation stuff, yeah.
forest helm
ah
last locust
I'm not the best fan of creating websites from scratch mainly cause I hate doing design, but taking an already-made website is something I don't mind doing.
Vue components with props are life changing.
potent prawn
yeah don't change font size or weight on hover as it causes layout reflow
vocal rivet
Design is ๐ฉ ๐
last locust
Another benefit of vue/nuxt over static is just all the plugins that people design for it
There's a few 100 afaik
potent prawn
๐ฌ
solemn marten
What have you tried so far to get the pages to pre-render?
last locust
php?
vocal rivet
Hah! Glare knows xD
forest helm
last locust
With nuxt, they automatically pre-render unless to specify it not to.
forest helm
pre-fender
potent prawn
should be able to pre-render the wiki pages as well, instead of serving the user a 500mb component with all the articles ๐
last locust
Lol
forest helm
oh that's why my ram dies every time I visit the site
potent prawn
sorry 500kb
last locust
HelpChat does the docs for like 1.7 - latest because people never seem to be able to find them, and we can guarantee they stay up so whenever I was generating on nuxt, it was like 1.2GB
But yeah, the wiki pages should pre-render also.
forest helm
yeah I don't really have the spare ram for 500mb just casually being loaded by chrome lol
last locust
You poor thing.
forest helm
(thats at idle with only discord, chrome, and spotify open)
Some of the hardware gurus over at admincraft have said that my CPU is effectivly the same as a raspi
somber rampart
@twin warren sorry to interrupt, I know these colors are by brigadier but how exactly you're making them? https://img.mrivanplays.com/GI6OIAcIoe.png I can't reproduce such colors with the thing I test
outer vesselBOT
Hey MrIvanPlays! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.
last locust
Shame on you. Suggesting 3rd party clients.
last locust
Interesting.
woeful willow
Betterdiscord isnt allowed because it's a modification of the 1st party client iirc
last locust
Ahh
forest helm
it isn't allowed, but discord doesn't seem to give a shit about it so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
still dirge
@woeful willow I can't see your avatar too well
outer vesselBOT
Hey Camm! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.
still dirge
but what bird is that? Eclectus?
woeful willow
Amazon
last locust
That's a company, silly.
woeful willow
Lilac crested amazon
woeful willow
It won't let me
still dirge
oh
still dirge
Snappy? ๐
woeful willow
Likes my GFs mom more
That's who owns her now (because of that)
I own a Green cheek conure myself
And the rest of my house Is an assortment of reptiles, fish, and bugs
still dirge
That all sounds amazing
I miss pets 
I used to have two beardies, and a planted aquarium
woeful willow
We used to have a salt water, sold it because we thought we were going to move (and fuck moving a 75 gallon salt water)
vocal rivet
Did you try StackOverflow ?
latent tendon
a what
vocal rivet
You really call yourself a Developer and dont know about StackOverflow? smh
Your error looks like some classes have not been included correctly
vocal rivet
NoClassDefFound: com/neovisionaries/ws/client/WebSocketError
look if com.neovisionaries.ws.client.WebSocketError exists
vocal rivet
Not there, in the file that uses that class
vocal rivet
Thats the class itself, I am talking about the part of the code that uses that class
latent tendon
well thats the funny part
i dont have anything related to ws in my code
lol
only org.bukkit
java and net.dv8tion
vocal rivet
Maybe its a error in the websocket. Because that class looks like it is called for WebSocket errors, and maybe such a error happened but there was a error inclusing that class due to a spelling mistake
latent tendon
only see [net.dv8tion.jda.internal.requests.WebSocketClient] Connected to WebSocket
vocal rivet
I would say report it to the JDA devs
last locust
He's here
Alright, we need to talk. You've been spending too much time on your computer.
Your mother and I think you need to cut back your screen time.
gilded nova
lol
interesting to say the least
considering i am a grown man with a software company and am far from my parents telling me what i am allowed to do lol
rigid widget
My dude, I appreciate your helping people with their LP stuff, but if you could at least first help them here/ask them before a DM, it would be appreciated - some people are getting concerned that you're directly DMing them and asking for their servers and offering help. (i know you're just trying to help) but it would be cool to keep the aid in the channels dedicated to them
gilded nova
oh my bad my dude i literally only messaged one guy lol and it was because i saw the issue was old and i didnt want to tag him hours later here in chat to offer my assistance
i was catching up and his issue just caught my attention
i should have known better
i will appologize to him too
rigid widget
ah. I completely understand, it's just difficult to know how many people/how often (and I seriously do appreciate it) - no worries though this isnt a warning or anything ๐
gilded nova
yeah i am helping people on the server too lol
steel shuttle
yeah i dont know i just like interjecting so just ignore me
last locust
Ignored.
still dirge
gilded nova
i guess i spooked the guy cause i didnt necro his several hour old issue just seemed like he didnt get it resolved just gave up
still dirge
/ignore pop495969798999
gilded nova
oh and larry
steel shuttle
you forgot 99
rigid widget
ye
gilded nova
the guy misunderstood i literally asked if he wanted me to come on as a member and explain why he was having the new member inheritance isssue lol
rigid widget
pop31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164
rigid widget
sounds good ๐
steel shuttle
oh people dont even have nickname perms on this server
thats probably a good thing tbh
last locust
Probably.
still dirge
I do? 
rigid widget
afaik they do lol
potent prawn
yeah wot
last locust
Wait I do
steel shuttle
uh idk
still dirge
Maybe it's a Patreon thing tho
rigid widget
^^
still dirge
๐
last locust
Ur dum
last locust
I bet you don't even know what 2+2 is
gilded nova
i have a nick lol
steel shuttle
maybe it was too long though
still dirge
Works for me
steel shuttle
i think discords error was just bad
rigid widget
there
potent prawn
ur bad
still dirge
waow
steel shuttle
pop31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164
this nickname doesnt work ๐
oh
i didnt do that
still dirge
32 character limit ๐
rigid widget
i did that ๐
last locust
potent prawn
discord: its too big
rigid widget
you can't see me
still dirge
:cha: :cha:
still dirge
potent prawn
dusky patio
when i /summon bat it says "unable to summon entity"
why????
@rigid widget can you help me?
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rigid widget
I don't know
still dirge
What command are you trying to use? Paste it here?
dusky patio
/summon bat ๐คฃ :
still dirge
You have to include more arguments then that.
If you're using something like EssentialsX, you can use /spawnmob which simplifies it a lot.
still dirge
What other plugins are you running?
still dirge
Patience my dude, no need to tag.
dusky patio
oh ok sorry sorry
still dirge
I'm not sure what else there might be stopping the spawning other than WorldGuard.
Check you aren't in a region that has mob-spawning denied.
still dirge
Still saying what?
still dirge
Where you're trying to spawn them, do /rg info and send a screenshot
dusky patio
:
dusky patio
working, thank you!
still dirge
No worries!
steel shuttle
oh god that wall of text
steel shuttle
would be nice if it only showed the ones that are actually changed from default
round sable
guys i upload luckperms bungeecord/plugins
and i restart
but not creating folders why
rigid widget
we're gonna need to see that startup log
round sable
Oh sorry bungeecord version needed
ฤฐ have normal luckperms on my lobby and ffa server
does it make problems?
frosty imp
ok
got it
uhg im pissed kinnda
i need like five peeps at least to make this vid soo
twin warren
was actually not a great example because Essentials does weird shit with it's permissions
like checking for * explicitly and checking for mail?!
but I couldn't be bothered to start a server and get another screenshot :p
last locust
I retract my statement. We're being bullied!
twin warren
haha
last locust
What command did you use?
twin warren
it tells you
last locust
Oh ye
I can't see colors
That's really weird. I just checked out the code for that command and I see nothing to do with mail.
I might open an issue for either me or Josh or someone to look at.
I gotta read into how verbose works first so I can lay out what all is occuring.
rigid widget
verbose go brrrrr
potent prawn
essentials checks for mail whenever someone runs a essentials cmd
twin warren
yea I figured it'd be something like that
last locust
Why the hell do we do that. Weird.
I'll throw that question to the team.
That seems to be an excessive amount of checks, at least in my opinion.
Those others seem kinda valid.
Looks like it's checking game mode, essentials all, and then all in general.
twin warren
here ya go Mr glare: https://luckperms.net/verbose/4NK0HVO2zs
com.earth2me.essentials.Essentials.onCommandEssentials:540
the magic line
potent prawn
checking for * and essentials.* should be left up to the permission plugin though
still dirge
Glare, I swear you're a contributor to everything
teal sun
Lmao
still dirge
How do you have time to live
teal sun
Check for each possible regex permission that could match the essentials command
last locust
Well, the past 3 months I've been on lockdown so I can't really leave my house.
If I could go be social, I would. Most of my friends are on the other side of the country right now because I got sent home from uni due to corona.
I am bored though, believe me. Which is why I'm finding new stuff to do, like work with Turbo on the website and stuff.
twin warren
working with Turbo is good for you?!
still dirge
work with Turbo on the website and stuff.
what's all this then
twin warren
news to me
last locust
I've recently taken up redoing my landscape.
potent prawn
omg
twin warren
:p
potent prawn
roasted
rigid widget
๐
last locust
Well, I don't fully know yet. He takes a solid 4 hours to respond to any DM.
rigid widget
i feel that too
still dirge
That sucks dude, but nice you're putting your free time to good use.
That's just because he's a kiwi
last locust
I waited so long on my last question I went and took a nap instead of working.
still dirge
#justkiwithings
teal sun
^ That's just the ping to NZ
last locust
Lmao
still dirge
LOL
potent prawn
*australia
last locust
Yeah I enjoy giving back to the community, I find it fun.
still dirge
Turbo can teach you more web developer stuff, and you can help Turbo with Java more, as he wants to become a Java dev.
last locust
So MD says it checks the perms each time you run a command in order to see if it can tell you that you have mail or not.
teal sun
What about the * lmao
last locust
I can't do web design to save my life, now, the structure and backend I'm find at, but I've never been able to do much design stuff.
steel shuttle
isn't * just a normal lp check
teal sun
No, that's Essentials explicitly checking it
last locust
I'll have to do some testing with some of my own projects.
steel shuttle
oh
last locust
I think it is EssX
teal sun
LP does check it internally, as it should, the plugin should just check the raw permission
last locust
Which I'd be happy to look into.
steel shuttle
its probably because it checks that for plugins that dont already do it
ess has a lot of backwards compatible bullshit in there lol
last locust
That is true
steel shuttle
permission plugins used to not be that good like 10 years ago
last locust
Also true
potent prawn
yeah it'll be a legacy requirement
twin warren
it's fine, doesn't really matter that it's spammy
last locust
I haven't heard of any complaints of lag or anything.
So I won't be too concerned about it.
twin warren
lol you'd have to be checking hundreds for it to even show up on a profiler
last locust
I figured
Makes me wonder how many perm checks I do. I know what I'll be playing around with tonight.
potent prawn
does essentials check if any of the permissions are true? or does it stop once it gets a false result before checking another
cause that will cause issues
twin warren
it probably returns true when it gets the result it wants to see :p
potent prawn
so if a user sets essentials.* to false, and essentials.fly to true
twin warren
so it doesn't matter
steel shuttle
checks fly, sees true, then ignores the former
potent prawn
i know with litebans it does that and returns false because it didn't bother checking any further
twin warren
hm shouldn't be
steel shuttle
a bit nonsensical since of course it makes sense to prioritise specific nodes
twin warren
because yea you check the wildcards last
last locust
Is there a speed comparison check between those? I haven't really digged deep into perms before. Does it just matches based off regex?
twin warren
no, LP does lots of fancy magic to make them fast
last locust
Ahh
potent prawn
fancy magic
twin warren
well it's not that fancy, it's over-engineered if anything haha
but it is fast so w.e
steel shuttle
btw i've had this question for a while but is there a performance benchmark for the various storage mediums LP offers?
latent tendon
oh man, i legit start to hate JDA
twin warren
there isn't, but it doesn't really matter because everything happens async anyways
steel shuttle
ah ok
last locust
Ooo
steel shuttle
someone mentioned a while ago that yml was a lot slower than the other file format
latent tendon
now i get every time that JDA stops sending messages from discord to minecraft ;/
steel shuttle
h2 i think
last locust
I just save to txt files. No need for anything else.
potent prawn
yaml bad
twin warren
it might be, but probably only by a few hundred ms, and that can't really be noticed
steel shuttle
hundreds of ms ๐
last locust
Wouldn't ever think that permissions could become a performance issue.
steel shuttle
anything can be a performance issue lol
twin warren
glare - simple things become an issue when you add scale
steel shuttle
don't plugins block until the permission returns true or false though?
last locust
That's fair
twin warren
pop, the data is preloaded on login
last locust
Thank you. Someone understands my logic.
steel shuttle
yeah if its all in memory then that's great
im just basing this on someone saying the other day in a support channel than yml was "slower"
so i was determined to figure out what that meant
twin warren
slower to edit by hand maybe? who knows :p
but ye in terms of performance, it makes no difference
last locust
I remember the days of manually editing perm files.
twin warren
yea we've kinda put a swift end to that for the most part ๐
although there are still some that do it
crazy cray
latent tendon
hey luck. luckperms support for discord. when ๐
last locust
Yikes
twin warren
discordsrv supports contexts now!
steel shuttle
i havent edited mine manually since upgrading from pex but i set it to yml cause i wanted to be able to do things the way it was before lol
solemn marten
I can remember when PEX would stall my server for a solid 20 seconds whenever a person joined... cringes
steel shuttle
im probably going to change it to h2 though
latent tendon
who uses DSRV
twin warren
idk, the majority?
latent tendon
i dont
steel shuttle
i use it currently but its hot trash imho lol
latent tendon
got ma own ๐
last locust
Everyone's on that EssentialsXDiscord hype
twin warren
haha honestly that would be a good fit for essentials
solemn marten
I used it whenever I had a bukkit server, just meant you could communicate easily. You could also be nosey, but let's not mention that
steel shuttle
yeah theres been thoughts going around to effectively replace XMPP with Discord
twin warren
do it!!
steel shuttle
theres a PR for it already ๐
twin warren
ayy
latent tendon
i mean. im stuck with JDA messing around
steel shuttle
its a WIP PR though so probably gonna be a while
latent tendon
like random WS bs
steel shuttle
afaik WS doesnt seem to have a much higher rate limit
i couldnt find very specific details though
latent tendon
well funny thing is
last locust
WS?
latent tendon
i dont use WS, but the error says i do
potent prawn
who actually used XMPP
last locust
Oh
latent tendon
@steel shuttle yep
solemn marten
The only time I've ever seen XMPP on a server is when it has .dis added to the extension
last locust
We're keeping it alive for those 11 people
potent prawn
lol
potent prawn
ditch it, and stop offering a damn zip of all the modules ๐
last locust
Just go to the Jenkins 4head
steel shuttle
spigot should just link to the module downloads page imho
big button with main plugin and small buttons for extensions there
steel shuttle
most of the time it is though
last locust
But then if supa let's the CI drop like it has before, there's another issue.
Plus then when we do releases we can make it look like a lot more was done
latent tendon
btw u know whats fun
steel shuttle
idk i dont personally agree with how ess does its releases but its whatever
last locust
That's fair
steel shuttle
ah well people use those ๐
last locust
Wondering how the feedback is for the async stuff is so far
steel shuttle
i mean if ess had a different download page on spigot for each module maybe
but it doesnt
last locust
That'd be a yikes
steel shuttle
people just sort of expect the zip, it's always been that way
but also people are stupid enough to install all of them
without looking at them
maybe not stupid, but it sure does seem to go over a lot of peoples heads that they are add-ons
stray temple
@modest compass what do you mean by verbose?
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stray temple
Oof :/
stray temple
oh ok
latent tendon
wow fun
stray temple
I need to learn how to code
potent prawn
you really should be a tester lol
latent tendon
who
potent prawn
who else
potent prawn
like a test analyst, in general
potent prawn
steel shuttle
dont think you need a contributor of JDA here to tell you how to use it
they have a javadoc
also i think the discord dev discord (that's a fun one to say) has people who can help if you really get stuck
potent prawn
discord.js ez mode
gilded nova
!blkupdate
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gilded nova
!bulkupdate
outer vesselBOT
LuckPerms wiki
gilded nova
for me lol
latent tendon
idek who made it but its legit broken
latent tendon
welp thats fixed. latest intelij is drunk xD
last locust
Sup
rigid widget
Glare my man what's good
rigid widget
;(
last locust
Need to food coma and just wake up in a few weeks.
rigid widget
yes that's a good idea
rigid widget
Luck with DSRV: https://i.imgur.com/kxwnjOR.png
forest helm
LOL
steel shuttle
Contexts gang where you at