I hear today
#general
vapid sequoia
Does AuthMe plugin helps that they cant hack my server
leaden ocean
Luckperms is anything but laggy for large servers
final hull
Nah not rlly tho
drowsy quest
@vapid sequoia AuthMe is for cracked servers
And utterly useless ok premium servers
vapid sequoia
It says that my server is premium
drowsy quest
@tranquil roost quite the opposite. Itβs one of the best in terms of lag
@vapid sequoia as I said. AuthMe is useless for premium servers
vapid sequoia
ok, do i need to set my survival and hub to online mode do they need to be offline mode*?
drowsy quest
Online. Unless you have bungee
vapid sequoia
Yeah i bungee
drowsy quest
If you have bungee it needs to be offline and bungee mode enabled
drowsy quest
@vapid sequoia are your servers protected?
In other words if I knew the IPs of the other servers could I start my own bungee to connect to it?
If so you need an IP whitelist
vapid sequoia
Ok, so i need ipwhitelist
teal sun
So that's what happened :) The slight problem with linking all servers to the lp database is that a hacker only needs to find one server which is open, op themselves there then use LP to give their real account perms
I'm pretty sure that's what the logs would show if you found them
tranquil roost
@drowsy quest that's what I think too
outer vesselBOT
Hey Jasiu >.<! Please don't tag staff members.
tranquil roost
Yes yea
Did anyone had idea how can I limit connection per minute or something π€
drowsy quest
@tranquil roost by default each server creates 10 connections to the database. Lowering that will increase lag
And itβs not an issue whatsoever to have that many connections
You should rather increase the limit the database server enforces
drowsy quest
@mighty halo what error are you getting?
mighty halo
Ill have to tell you when I get home
Currently doing bank drops, and all that.
This is all that it says.
Error
Bungee
mighty halo
Yes.. It's like it not bridging across the servers
A very common problem with me.
Bungee - Spigot nvr wanna connect with me
hybrid loom
BTLP has to bee on bungeecord and the bukkitbridge needs to be on spigot
just in case.
mighty halo
Yes, I know - I did that.
drowsy quest
@mighty halo there must be another error
rain edge
my sevrer crashed again, here are the logs and crash report auh someone help please heres the log https://pastebin.com/Jdm3k6vB and heres the crash report https://pastebin.com/4nh7q8A1
rain edge
why does it crash?
left hinge
Anyone know why I can successfully load a schematic, but when I paste it I keep getting this error regardless of the schematic?
error is: java.lang.reflect:InvocationTargetException: null
rain edge
why does it crash, anyone?
drowsy quest
@rain edge the server kills itself if a tick takes longer than 60 seconds
rain edge
how do I fix it? does it say whats cuasing it
drowsy quest
No
glossy kelp
It just say that it lacking too much behind. Not what is causing it.
drowsy quest
Or well. It crashed while it was generating chunks for galactic craft
Hard to say if thatβs the cause but I certainly was doing that when it crashed
rain edge
is there anyway to fix it. auh the server was supose to come out today ):
teal sun
@left hinge 1.13?
left hinge
yea
teal sun
@rain edge There isn't a problem. Just reboot the server
left hinge
world edit just doesn't work
teal sun
@left hinge Certain features are broken on 1.13
left hinge
like //set?
teal sun
No idea
left hinge
I rebooted it multiple times and tried 2 different schematics and nothing wokred
sleek niche
Make sure you installed the latest version
steep token
What tablist plugin do you guys use to display users with higher priority ranks to be shown first?
any good recomendations?
sleek niche
Try this file here
Above download is for Beast
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@steep token For Spigot / Bukkit I use TAB (https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/tab-1-8-x-1-13-2-reborn.57806/) It is really good and compatible with luckperms (If you have a good setup config)
steep token
ty!
sleek niche
But how I said you need to setup the config if you want to make it good compatible, so if you think good you got a good one
functional tablist
sleek niche
Hmm... On my server it works, are you using FAWE or something like that?
left hinge
no
same exact jar that u put in there
could there be something In the config that is wrong maybe?
did u have to edit it before using the plugin? @sleek niche
sleek niche
No
steep token
Is that AbstractMethodError related to coreprotect?
sleek niche
I just dragged the jar and it worked, I edited later some lines in the config but that was it
left hinge
that's what the console says
oh shoot, I do have coreprotect installed
that might be it, lemme delete it and check
steep token
np xD
cedar tinsel
What's should I go with for my server forums?
drowsy quest
What what? π
cedar tinsel
I've heard of something called Enjin
No idea what it is or what's it for, automatically guessed it had something to do with websites/forums
fierce vector
π€’
drowsy quest
@cedar tinsel itβs a hoster. And a terrible one too
cedar tinsel
See, there's a problem, I can't code in HTML, CSS, PHP or anything like that
I can buy a host, that's no problems
Enjin is a website builder
vocal rivet
You dont need to write a custom website, there are a lot of OpenSource freeware website softwares in the WWW
cedar tinsel
Can you recommend anything?
Actually, I could code in HTML and CSS, but that's nothing
vocal rivet
as example WordPress, NamelessMC, WoltLab, Invision Power etc.
If its for a MC project I would suggest NamelessMC
cedar tinsel
Alright, thank you!
vocal rivet
cedar tinsel
Do you happen to have any experience with it? I'm having some issues while trying to set it up
minor socket
vocal rivet
Yes I set up the old and new version, tho I preffer V1
hybrid loom
@vocal rivet cute little avatar π
vocal rivet
Thank you π
cedar tinsel
Why is it almost impossible to set Atom as the default text editor? I personally can't set it as default text editor
potent prawn
What OS?
cedar tinsel
Windows 10 Pro
steep token
properties > open file with > set atom as default owo
for that extension
@zenith kelp hi xD
rain edge
how do I reload my config while the server is up
isnt there a command?
im a sponge user
grave summit
drowsy quest
@rain edge you can also do /sponge reload. Though it can cause issues
And some plugins donβt react to the event at all
teal sun
Hey, does anyone have access to minecraft atm to help me test something?
teal sun
1.13.2
hybrid loom
alright
tranquil roost
drowsy quest
@fallen sandal there are a few things I'd like to mention.
I know the world is a cruel place. Especially for people different than everyone. And as it happens to turn out I'm an actual autist as well. While I have no issues whatsoever with logic and math and that stuff, I do have serious issues with things like memorization and social contacts.
And that is especially hard when dealing with relationships. I cannot for the live of me tell truth from lies when it's not absolutely obvious. I also cannot comprehend indirect communication, nor detect complex feelings in others.
And while it's not really my fault, this has caused me several relationships to fail horribly. It's just a thing I'm bad at and need assitance with.
So I know your struggle.
The thing is, I do not want you to discourage you from running a Minecraft server. But I want to discourage you from running it without a person you can reliably ask for help. As public Discord channels are not made to suit your needs. I cannot give you sufficient support. I'd have to spend all day. And it would be a burden on other people too. It's cruel and it sucks. I know that too. But that doesn't change the fact that the way this support Discord server deals with support (aka not handling out silver platters but instead telling you where to find them) is probably not suited for you
Now while you might find this offensive or rude, be aware that that is not my intention here.
tranquil roost
@drowsy quest
outer vesselBOT
Hey Jasiu >.<! Please don't tag staff members.
tranquil roost
can you look at my screen?
teal sun
...?
tranquil roost
But idk what's going on
drowsy quest
What are the first few words?
tranquil roost
out of memory
but
ik
2 G doesn't enough for bungee? ok
i set 8G
and again
tranquil roost
64
tranquil roost
hmm
fallen sandal
@drowsy quest I Don't find any of that offensive and yes i understand "your" struggles only too well. Though id say least you've had relationship π
I feel the worst bit of it Is the poor memory. I'm a smart person but that really hinders me, Sucks i have a rarer form of autism (Asperger's Syndrome) Which means i'm high functioning at the least but also a rarer form of it that affect my short term memory. So i can be forgetful a lot and yeah understanding configs o.O, but i'm learning. I've set a lot of it up with some guidance from other plugin discords, some easier to understand than others and those i've had to be spoon fed a bit more some other things. Not proud of it but its the way it is and i deal with it. What i do not like is when someone tells me i can or shouldn't do something just because i don't understand it. Regardless of my Autism. sadly you are not the first one in the last 2 days that have suggested that. I try to make the most of that i have. Most don't have jobs, don't get out much. I do and i'm a trainee kayaking coach. Even if it means i struggle not just with my lack of social skills but also the anxieties i have, i still want to have the best life i can have. I want to work, want to have my own place, my own things. Even though i often wish i can just stay on my pc. It's my comfort zone 100%
That command is the only thing on my server as of right now i'm struggling to figure out and the server is going well for a 4 day old server. Had 10 players on it last night and i have 31 members on my discord.
The one thing i don't get, people come here for help and they are basically told to do a google search, or here's the website it may be on, go look for yourself. You then spend more time dealing with everyone than providing the info with a link to the website for future info.
ornate heron
Amyone know something that lets a player execute a command when they enter a region?
rustic cobalt
You mean, give them perm to run it, or; run it for them?
mellow mauve
everyone is being diagnosed with aspergers nowadays....
ornate heron
Run it for them @rustic cobalt
rustic cobalt
I'm going to guess that a quick google would offer something
ornate heron
So basically a player walks into a region and he basically types /menu
without him typing
Ok thanks
drowsy quest
@fallen sandal Aspergers for me too.
Anyways I really suggest you find someone that can help you on a more direct level. That will make everything a lot easier for you. Especially with getting supprt. As most people on support Discords are volunteers and share the principle that they won't help people but rather help them help themselves
fallen sandal
Well i disagree with that setup, it's not particular helpful all the time but that's my personal opinion. I will say thank you for the time you have put in to help me though. I'm not ungrateful
teal sun
Same for me actually, I was asked whether I wanted a diagnosis or not because I wasn't 'far enough down the spectrum' for them to be super sure
So I don't have a diagnosis because I'm on the border
fallen sandal
It's not a nice thing. Though not half as bad as someone that has normal autism so i'm thankful for that
teal sun
Yeah
fallen sandal
sad thing is, we tend to be very intelligent. but the autism has negative side affect that can limit or hinder that intelligence.
drowsy quest
Not trying to be mean, but helping people to help themselves is by far the better strategy for far over 99% of people
hybrid loom
^
mellow mauve
if i were to be diagnosed with something based on my lack of memoery it would probably be dementia
i open the cabinet and turn around and forgot that i had opened the cabinet
fallen sandal
well even new people to configs still need more help than those that just need the links to things
drowsy quest
That's normal @mellow mauve
mellow mauve
xD
hybrid loom
If a person helps himself, then he also learns himself.
There's a big difference in learning something yourself vs. getting the info spoonfeed to you
drowsy quest
The links usually are more than enough
A few small questions back are completely fine
hybrid loom
@mellow mauve You don't want to know, what situations I had, where I forgot stuff
mellow mauve
xDDDD
drowsy quest
But there's a difference is asking a few questions and being spoonfed
hybrid loom
Like I cam to work with an umbrella and when I walked back home I forgot it there.....
fallen sandal
Jenius, i can be talking to you and know exactly what i want to say and while talking i can feel it slipping away till i forget the rest of what i was going to say. It's so unbelievably frustrating.
teal sun
I mean a friend send me a photo and asked for my honest opinion and I said she looked 'kinda swollen'
hybrid loom
It rained at evening so.....
mellow mauve
i once used to carry a folder around with me for work, its been left at bus stations, restaraunts and all over the place, and somehow always managed to find it in the end
teal sun
That didn't go well
drowsy quest
That's the kind of thing that pisses me off
I've ended friendships over that kind of things
And one relationship too
mellow mauve
you need to have friends to begin with <<<
teal sun
You've ended them
drowsy quest
Keep in mind I clearly state my utter distaste of these kind of things straight up
teal sun
Or they've ended it with you?
drowsy quest
No. I've ended them on the spot
mellow mauve
hahaha FRIEND, YOURE FIRED
teal sun
Huh
mellow mauve
brainstone ~~ donald trump
drowsy quest
Not even remotely close
mellow mauve
:V
you ended friendships because they didnt understand your advice?
maybe theres a problem with the advice
:V
drowsy quest
No no
hybrid loom
I didn't really had friends because of being always bullied....
mellow mauve
π¦ aww
drowsy quest
I ended friendship over people being upset at my honest opion when asked for it
hybrid loom
Since then I have huge issues getting friends in rl....
drowsy quest
While really asking for my 100% honest opinion
mellow mauve
yap, when people want honest opinion they just want to hear what they want to hear
drowsy quest
That's a kind of toxicity I cannot and will not deal with ever
teal sun
I mean I guess there's ways to put it
fallen sandal
no the US always copies Lord Sugar in the apprentice, your fired
mellow mauve
and like i said, you cant always be super honest
teal sun
Like 'i think you look cuter in the first one' vs 'you look swollen in the sedond one'
drowsy quest
I live by the standard "Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to"
drowsy quest
I explain that quite frequently and that actually rings a lot of peoples bells
hybrid loom
I mean I always try to be as honest as possible.
So I didn't lie to my gf when she asked me about something special.
mellow mauve
i always make sure to tell a girl exactly what would make her happy no matter how i felt
if she likes the dress, who am i to say it doesnt look nice
drowsy quest
I mean it's not like I don't make compliments or little lies
But when asked for an honest opion I give it
mellow mauve
uh huh
drowsy quest
And my friends understand that
drowsy quest
Luckily I don't live in the US xD
mellow mauve
but then you wont be asked many questions because of it
teal sun
@outer vessel Note to self, never ask BrainStone for his opinion on me
mellow mauve
^ xD
mellow mauve
i visited america for 1 week and was threatened for taking pictures
so, yeah, not going back
drowsy quest
But I want to go there for holidays x3
mellow mauve
im a tourist, im gonna take pictures of everything
drowsy quest
I mean the fake attitude is toxic af when trying to find friends but highly pleasant when being served
Also I'm a sucker for fast food
mellow mauve
food was good in america, i once ate a meal and wasnt hungry for 2 days
hybrid loom
I mean when my gf asked me how I feel atm I didn't lie and said, that I had suicide-thoughts again...
It hurt her, but overall it made it better in the long run
mellow mauve
can you perhaps understand why she was upset
because it means you dont value her enough as a reason to stay alive
women take things personally, always
hybrid loom
She wasn't upset
mellow mauve
"It hurt her"
hybrid loom
More like sad because she couldn't be there for me.
mellow mauve
long distance?
hybrid loom
But I also told her, that thinking about her at that moment pretty much removed those depressing thoughts
And yeah
mellow mauve
ahhh you are good
i have a saying about long distance relationships
they only go so far
without ever meeting that person in real life, theres a lower chance the relationship will succeed
hybrid loom
nah
A friend had a online relationship for over a year.... And now he is married with her and is happy.
mellow mauve
married her online?
hybrid loom
In real
mellow mauve
exactly my point
hybrid loom
Like he met her, they datet each other multiple times, started to live together and finally married
mellow mauve
yeap, but the relationship only succeeded because they met in real life
hybrid loom
Which is my goal in the future
mellow mauve
thats a good goal, so long as its not unreasonable
hybrid loom
But I first have to get my life in a good shape.
mellow mauve
i.e. She doesnt live in North Korea
hybrid loom
Like getting a job and finally make the driver license
mellow mauve
hahha
hybrid loom
nah.
mellow mauve
i have a drivers license yeyy
i also have a car yeyy
im unemployed boooo
maybe i could make money doing online psychology xD
althought im a terrible psychologist, thats why im trying to start a minecraft server instead
xD
i hope the best for your relationship, and remember that suicide would hurt everyone around you more than yourself
hybrid loom
ik
mellow mauve
i remember a family member commited suicide and shook the family tree up until 5th cousins
hybrid loom
I lost a good friend to suicide.
mellow mauve
π¦
think about how you feel about it, and consider thats how youd make others feel
hybrid loom
It changed his family.
His sister that always was so happy is now still in a therapy because of that and became really silent...
mellow mauve
usually people are not only upset from it but also disappointed
truthfully, suicide is very rather selfish
unless its accidental suicide
which is an oxymoron
Self-Inflicted Unintentional Death
You wanted to hurt yourself, but not kill yourself, but killed yourself by mistake.
Dont do that either ^
tranquil roost
Again, 8GB
i doesn't have latest bungee
but on latest its that anoyying exception
drowsy quest
Looks like a bug in bungee then
mellow mauve
is there any way to hide a command from the help menu?
even if player has permission to use it
hybrid loom
Why do you want to hide a command from a help-list, if he has perms for it?
mellow mauve
because its an unusable command
hybrid loom
So.... remove perms I guess?
mellow mauve
sponge doesnt have perms for callback
leaden ocean
Ah, I just make my own help command using nucleus' info module. Then create an alias to /info <file name>
mellow mauve
nucleus info
i need to look into this
so basically make an info help.txt and then make /help and alias of /info help ?
hahaha
info help is already a command, i need to name it something else
i dont think this solution will work across multiple groups etc
rustic cobalt
@tranquil roost The fact that you got an OOM which included a segmentation fault would imply that your system itself is running out of memory, not the process in there
rustic cobalt
Somebody is sending invalid traffic to your server
tranquil roost
so how can i fix that?
rustic cobalt
InitialHandler is the handler for packets from the server itself, that means that something on your server itself is sending it
violet crag
Hey. Can someone help me with YML? I change stuff and validator still says error at the same spot π€
LORE: - '&e'
Problem on second line
rustic cobalt
check your spacing, double check your usage of tabs, etc
I wanna say that usage of & might require using " instead of ' too
Yaml is pretty weird
vapid sequoia
Anyone knows a good tablist plugin theres LP works on
teal sun
@vapid sequoia BungeeTabListPlus for networks. Not sure about single servers
cedar tinsel
Sure
rain edge
how do I reload sponge config?
potent prawn
Restart the server?
potent prawn
Pretty sure brain tagged you with the correct command. Check your mentions.
rain edge
How do I do that?
potent prawn
Find the @ button
violet crag
https://ghostbin.com/paste/peb9v This is my config @hybrid loom Sorry for late respond π¦
outer vesselBOT
Hey Peurost! Please don't tag staff members.
hybrid loom
And which line makes issues?
@violet crag Found something: https://ghostbin.com/paste/peb9v#L101
Missing '
violet crag
Line 91
hybrid loom
And the ' here is after the e and not at the end: https://ghostbin.com/paste/peb9v#L114
Like it should be - '&eKaina 6Eur/men. arba 21 Eur/Nuolatinis.' and you have - '&e'Kaina 6Eur/men. arba 21 Eur/Nuolatinis.
violet crag
Okey. I will look up at all lines and will try to fix it
drowsy quest
@mellow mauve @zenith kelp let's talk about cracked here please
@woeful willow You too please
glossy kelp
Are people bragging that you guys dont support cracked severs?
spring cobalt
I'm not sure many people that would support cracked servers
mellow mauve
unreasonable
drowsy quest
@mellow mauve let's suppose you make software that you sell
woeful willow
It's not really unreasonable to not support illegal software
mellow mauve
can you really demand for proof that a server has never been offline by someone asking for support
cedar tinsel
I actually purchased MC few weeks ago just so I could be supported by wonderful people of Spigot and other MC communities
woeful willow
It doesn't matter if a server is offline
cedar tinsel
It does
zenith kelp
Ok let's deal with something
cedar tinsel
You're allowing people that have not purchased MC in
zenith kelp
The server is totally different from the customers
woeful willow
It matters if it supports cracked clinets
drowsy quest
@mellow mauve I don't want proof. It's usually very clear that a server is cracked
zenith kelp
That uses the plugin
mellow mauve
and
woeful willow
That's the difference
zenith kelp
So basically the customer has to be SUPPORTED at least
zenith kelp
@cedar tinsel ikr.
mellow mauve
it's the same software just in offline mode
drowsy quest
zenith kelp
But I have to for my own reasons
spring cobalt
No there are differences
woeful willow
All the same, still no reason to support it.
cedar tinsel
You can argue here for days, the conclusion stays
drowsy quest
It's a personal decision to not support piracy
mellow mauve
Cracked servers are not the same as offline mode servers?
cedar tinsel
Cracked = no support
spring cobalt
Iirc there are changes to ways UUIDs are handled or something like that
And yeah the piracy thing
cedar tinsel
Offline mode = cracked
drowsy quest
@mellow mauve Cracked != offline server
drowsy quest
In the sense that you could have a server behind a bungee
zenith kelp
Cracked or not, a customer is a customer and he has the right to get supported.
spring cobalt
No
woeful willow
False
teal sun
You're not a customer
drowsy quest
But if you have it in online mode and invite cracked clients then it's a cracked server
spring cobalt
Support is a privelege not a right
zenith kelp
Wow
mellow mauve
I don't understand, a cracked server can work in online mode?
drowsy quest
@mellow mauve no it can't
woeful willow
Yeah no one here pays for the plugin, nor the volenteers.
mellow mauve
Yea I didn't think so
woeful willow
You could
drowsy quest
Did you buy the plugin @zenith kelp
woeful willow
It's easy, just a simple config change
spring cobalt
And who here is a customer? I don't recall LP costing money π€
woeful willow
π
glossy kelp
LOL Cracked or not, a customer is a customer and he has the right to get supported. is so freaking stupid. You are a customer when you have byed something. Not when you did not.
zenith kelp
But I have my own reasons to make it cracked.
woeful willow
Not good enough for support lol
zenith kelp
Can you fell
drowsy quest
Did you buy the plugin? 69LORD?
zenith kelp
Tell me*
mellow mauve
what is the difference between a cracked server and an offline server
zenith kelp
Why do people get supported on non paid customers better then here?
spring cobalt
But I have my own reasons to make it cracked.
And we have our own reasons to not give you support.
woeful willow
What did you buy to be a customer? What makes you so important that you deserve support.
drowsy quest
@mellow mauve I've stated that several times
zenith kelp
@spring cobalt which is?
mellow mauve
patched software?
zenith kelp
Like wtf people.
mellow mauve
not original server software?
drowsy quest
@zenith kelp I'm appaled by software piracy and therefore choose to not support it. It's a personal decision
spring cobalt
Are you unable to read? I'm gonna be blunt here. We've explained why several times. Each of us.
teal sun
Luck has said merely asking that we don't keep repeating the discussion about cracked servers everytime someone running one asks for help. Can we stop this discussion right here please. I will delete all messages from this point onwards. Enough has been said
spring cobalt
So what's everyone's favourite pizza topping?
mellow mauve
with offline tomato sauce
teal sun
π
spring cobalt
Ham Bacon Pineapple is a really good combination imo
mellow mauve
Is it me or do messages keep disappearing
teal sun
They do
sly nimbus
I prefer Ham and Pineapple imo
teal sun
That's because we're not continuing this discussion
zenith kelp
But you should.
mellow mauve
This is offtopic
mellow mauve
we can discuss this here
spring cobalt
I will delete all messages from this point onwards.
Yeah ham aind pineapple are pretty good. If I have to go with two toppings that's what I choose.
drowsy quest
@mellow mauve Luck asked to not discuss this every time
vocal rivet
I like Pineapple on pizza
teal sun
All I'm saying is I have been asked specifically by Luck himself not to allow this discussion, we've already let it go on far too long
mellow mauve
well it's because I'm telling you it doesn't make sense, you can't demand to know what server mode someone is running in
spring cobalt
Good that most of us a civilised people who like pineapple on pizza
mellow mauve
They can easily change it before asking support
teal sun
Pineapple on pizza is amazing
zenith kelp
Then let me talk with Luck and solve this
vocal rivet
π π
spring cobalt
π
teal sun
Feel free to create a github issue
sly nimbus
π
drowsy quest
But let me put a summary on the stance of the topic in regards:
While it is up for debate whether cracking software is ok or not, there are people that do not wish to support such acts. This is a personal matter.
It's up to these individuals if they wish to provide support for cracked software or not. And they are under no obligation to do so. Mainly because they are under no obligation to provide support in the first place.
zenith kelp
Nah, my players are waiting me with anger cause of this plugin
cedar tinsel
spring cobalt
\π \π
mellow mauve
Set something like a hardware ID and if the server is ever in offline mode, send that hardware ID to your database and ban then from ever receiving support
case closed
reasonable, right?
spring cobalt
My nick is now perfecet
zenith kelp
@drowsy quest We are server owners, there is nothing to do with us but how the server works.
outer vesselBOT
Hey 69LORD! Please don't tag staff members.
cedar tinsel
This conversation is pointless
drowsy quest
@zenith kelp @mellow mauve as mentioned several times, it's a personal decision
glossy kelp
lol yeah
zenith kelp
Tell me, if you had to do it cracked for a valid reason will you do it or just keep it prem?
teal sun
No, because a) it's not a rule that we don't support. It's each mod's choice. Secondly, how would we determine discord names from server owners
glossy kelp
Just stop it allready
teal sun
No
vocal rivet
I also like mozzarella and salami on pizza, but not at the same. Tho mozzarella tomato and salami tastes awesome
drowsy quest
I could decide to not support people with numbers in their name
Up to me
I don't have to provide a reason
mellow mauve
How would you determine cracked servers to begin with?
cedar tinsel
You ask, they answer
mellow mauve
they're stupid
teal sun
Debug information also
zenith kelp
I feel like
mellow mauve
can be changed
spring cobalt
Salami on pizza? Never had it. Sounds good though.
cedar tinsel
It's great
zenith kelp
Going back to groupmanager is better then this
cedar tinsel
try it
vocal rivet
Try it it tastes great ^^
teal sun
@zenith kelp Enjoy GM
mellow mauve
It's like pepperoni but less spicy
drowsy quest
Most people are not smart enough to hide it
cedar tinsel
Most people are not smart enough to use LP
zenith kelp
Why would we hide it
woeful willow
Is GM even still in development?
mellow mauve
That's their problem
cedar tinsel
I got a friend that uses PEX
spring cobalt
Oh I might prefer it then. I like spicy food but peperoni isn't the good kind of spicy.
steel pelican
@woeful willow Nope
zenith kelp
PEX > Lp @cedar tinsel
mellow mauve
GM was good
woeful willow
lmao
sly nimbus
im enjoying setting up permissions on this awesome plugin all the while being entertained by #general
cedar tinsel
No
teal sun
Lmao @sly nimbus same
cedar tinsel
Just no
mellow mauve
I used GM in 2014
cedar tinsel
LP > Paper
spring cobalt
Now more pizza talk and less drama
cedar tinsel
π€
vocal rivet
GM had not the capabilities of LP and neither does Pex. Which is why I use LP now and switched from GM π
zenith kelp
@mellow mauve GM broke itself cus of shitty plugin dev, they still have some nice support
cedar tinsel
Spigot > AuthMe
woeful willow
Plain text > bcrypt
mellow mauve
Essentials > Nucleus
cedar tinsel
PUBG > GroupManager
vocal rivet
Oh sorry back to pizza talk
spring cobalt
Anyone ever have anchovies on pizza? What's it like?
woeful willow
BAD
cedar tinsel
Also good
woeful willow
Don't do it
mellow mauve
Pizza > Everything food
spring cobalt
Oh boy
steel pelican
@vocal rivet people switch to lp and fall inlove with the editor haha
drowsy quest
@mellow mauve @zenith kelp btw, no more harsher way to show your utter distaste of the support staff by switching the plugin. π
mellow mauve
lol I'd never switch plugin
cedar tinsel
π€ >
zenith kelp
I guess better leave cause I'm not getting supported, for not a valid reason.
spring cobalt
Switching the plugin to something objectively subpar just in spite *
sly nimbus
anchovies are alittle weird hairy and salty imp
teal sun
Coolio
cedar tinsel
Windows > Graphic design
mellow mauve
LP is cool, but it has some fundamental issues
glossy kelp
Go ahead and use dead plugins, nobody is stopping you.
spring cobalt
But yeah pizzas
glossy kelp
It have not
drowsy quest
@zenith kelp I've mentioned it several times. We do not have to provide any reason to not support someone
potent prawn
@zenith kelp you've been told HOW to get support, so go and open an issue on github
stop crying about it
cedar tinsel
I mean pizzas are original
teal sun
^^^^
zenith kelp
Look
spring cobalt
I wonder what coconut would be like on pizza
zenith kelp
I don't care.
mellow mauve
My cat's name is Cookie
vocal rivet
I tried Pineapple with salami, that wasnt that great
teal sun
I mean I was considering whether to help you along with leaving anyway.
zenith kelp
Bye.
cedar tinsel
Coconut on pizza? That's up for experimenting
drowsy quest
And for us cracked servers are a more than valid enough reason. If you agree or not doesn't matter to our opinon
spring cobalt
I gotta try it some time
cedar tinsel
Would like to be the one trying it
mellow mauve
Why don't you just ban everyone in offtopic and be done with it
teal sun
He's gone
spring cobalt
Alright I'm using the block button
mellow mauve
kay
teal sun
Now we can stop this
cedar tinsel
I mean, I ate pizza with a lot of toppings
sly nimbus
i dont know about coconut on pizza that just seems alitle "out there"
mellow mauve
I ate a whole large pizza once on my own
potent prawn
i'm a customerrrr supportt meeeeee
mellow mauve
Same
cedar tinsel
Not fat though, thank God
mellow mauve
same
spring cobalt
Yeah I usually go with what I said earlier. Pineapple Ham Bacon is the holy trinity of pizza toppings
cedar tinsel
My metabolism is super ultra fast
mellow mauve
70kgs
vocal rivet
My sister eats pizza without cheese on it .. I am sitting there like: 
cedar tinsel
It's reasonable
sly nimbus
you guys are making me hungry i am going to have to end up ordering pizza now
glossy kelp
mellow mauve
I'm statistically shorter than 70% of this group
cedar tinsel
Mine's on the way
potent prawn
lol your metabolism will slow down eventually :P mine used to be the same
mellow mauve
It slows down around 40 years old
sly nimbus
i think my metabolism has come to a dead halt...
cedar tinsel
Never broke a bone, been reckless as a kid
mellow mauve
I broke 4 bones
mellow mauve
Milk and cookies
vocal rivet
No pizza talk anymore? π
cedar tinsel
We gotta switch foods
Keep the conversation going
Anyway, sweet titty white juice
mellow mauve
Pizza with ice-cream
vocal rivet
Hmm ... how about burgers?
mellow mauve
burger pizzas are good too
mellow mauve
yaasss
mellow mauve
I only eat pizza slices in form of sandwich
cedar tinsel
He passed away
vocal rivet
I never tried eating tacos sadly
cedar tinsel
Me neither
Not a lot of those in Croatia
I mean like taco trucks or whatever it's called
mellow mauve
Taco pizza
cedar tinsel
Huh
vocal rivet
Sounds Yummy
cedar tinsel
I'm sweating
vocal rivet
π€€
mellow mauve
top of the mornin to ya
cedar tinsel
So cute
mellow mauve
love him
vocal rivet
Me too ^^
cedar tinsel
How do we switch from food to an PewDiePie-made youtuber?
mellow mauve
Like this
vocal rivet
I like Markiplier, Jack and DanTDM
mellow mauve
Tobuscus
cedar tinsel
Pedophile
cedar tinsel
Sure does
vocal rivet
Which videos?
mellow mauve
I think I spent the entirety of 2012 following tobuscus playing minecraft
vocal rivet
My fav was TheDiamondMinecart, but I dislike the new direction he is going. I feel like the most he does is Fortnite. Also his Microphone settings suck, the sound echoes a lot which is annoying as hell XP
mellow mauve
I'm not gonna lie I dislike Fortnite and what it's done to the world
vocal rivet
Me too
vocal rivet
Yes, but with the difference that fortnite does not offer as much
mellow mauve
implying Minecraft is not as hyped as it used to be
vocal rivet
Yeah, maybe because every new update is not what people want
mellow mauve
Macrosoft is doing a good job of sorting through the code tho
hybrid loom
I personally hate Fortnite too.... And I even didn't play it at all
mellow mauve
Same
vocal rivet
Also that the Windows 10 edition is now minecraft and Minecraft is now the Minecraft Java edition
potent prawn
i played it on my phone, once, then uninstalled it
vocal rivet
That little change had lots of bad feedback
mellow mauve
especially if it's a Windows app
Windows apps are not java apps
written in C most likely
and .NET
vocal rivet
Yes, but my point is that minecraft became MC: Java Edition and MC:W10 is now named Minecraft
mellow mauve
Whether it uses java as the game engine is probably true, but it's not impossible that they've written it on a different platform
vocal rivet
Technically speaking they are different, I know. But I mean this little name change they did
hybrid loom
That's why f.e. the MC wiki calls the PE/windows 10 edition "Minecraft Bedrock edition" since every time they mention "Minecraft" they talk about the java edition
mellow mauve
I don't mind it really, I think it differentiates that I'm talking about the java edition over the console edition for instance
I don't use Windows 10 so I guess this doesn't affect me as much
hybrid loom
iirc does xsumavoid use a RP that has "Minecraft Not [microsoft logo] edition"
mellow mauve
I'm using the 5 star OS
hybrid loom
I have Win 10 Home professional
mellow mauve
The 5 star OS of Microsoft since XP
vocal rivet
Windows 7
mellow mauve
Ultimate, even
vocal rivet
I also have that installed as second OS
vocal rivet
Yes W7 Ultimate
mellow mauve
I sometimes feel that windows 10 is windows 7 with badly done makeup and a wig
vocal rivet
Windows 7 is great
But I also like W10, well after I disabled that heckin spiing software
mellow mauve
Spybot Antibeacon
vocal rivet
Idk, I kinda find the Windows 10 design apealing, but I dislike the new "Features" they implement. Like the fast start which re-o0pens software when you use the regular Shutdown with the windows symbol#
mellow mauve
Antibeacon became so popular since Windows 10, that it's now partly payware
vocal rivet
WHen I contacted microsoft about how to disable it: "It is part of the new startup process and cannot be disabled" this causes a lot of troubles on my PC
mellow mauve
reopening software was nothing new as Mac OS did that since forever
Just hold down shift when shutting down
vocal rivet
Yes, but I hate that. It just causes troubles
Also windows also could do that since Vista
mellow mauve
and anything in startup can be disabled in the task manager startup tab
vocal rivet
but it was disabled by default
Not that
It is not part of the regular Windows startup
It does that in the background
vocal rivet
Every one which was open when I shutdown my PC
mellow mauve
those can be quashed too
vocal rivet
It is part of the windows 10 UEFI boot manager
mellow mauve
probably a registry key somewhere
hmmm uefi boot
that's hyberfile
does it still do it if you shut down with shift key oressed
vocal rivet
I didn't try shift. But I run a batch file to shutdown my PC
that prevents the PC from saving which apps were open
mellow mauve
could be doing the same thing, shutting down without hybernating
ever since windows 10, power cycles were done using hybernation which sped it up a lot
but you can perform a full power down with Shift and click on Shutdown
In the start menu
same for Restart button
mellow mauve
No probs, and have a look on Google about permanently disabling hibernation in winx
I've never done it but it could be possible
likely that it works , but will slow down your boot times
it'll feel more like a computer and less like a tablet after
vocal rivet
I did read ups. They said Its some registry change, a simple tick to remove etc. I checked that all but nothing worked so far
mellow mauve
I've seen some computers with windows 10 show me an uptime variable of 2 months because they were never shutdown fully
mellow mauve
You use the batch script tho
spring cobalt
mellow mauve
curious, what's the contents of the batch file
is it something like
shutdown -f -s -t 0
vocal rivet
Yep
mellow mauve
ya
vocal rivet
shutdown.exe /s /t 0
mellow mauve
it doesn't force shutdown on yours
add /f switch and it'll shutdown no matter whats running
but you might not want that in case you're working on something and hit the file by mistake
vocal rivet
Yeah but sometimes I am stupid and forget that I still have unsaved code opened
mellow mauve
yap
You could always set the timer to 5 seconds
and make another batch file which aborts shut down in that case
vocal rivet
Tho I set it up now to save every line of code automatically and push once a day to gitlab
mellow mauve
In one file
shutdown /s /f /t 5
And in Abort file
shutdown /a
It'll give you 5 seconds to realize you need to abort
you could remove the /f switch and have the abort file on standby for 5 seconds
just as an extra precaution
vocal rivet
I could do that, but the "Shutdown now?" message is sufficent for me XD
mellow mauve
vbs or batch?
Like this?
echo Shutdown now?
pause
shutdown /s /t 0
or are you setting a Yes/No variable
vocal rivet
No, when I use the command like I have currently it does this full screen message where it asks if you want to shutdown anyway
mellow mauve
@ECHO OFF
:choice
set /P c=Are you sure you want to continue[Y/N]?
if /I "%c%" EQU "Y" goto :somewhere
if /I "%c%" EQU "N" goto :somewhere_else
goto :choice
:somewhere
echo "I am here because you typed Y"
pauseΒ
exit
:somewhere_else
echo "I am here because you typed N"
pauseΒ
exit
You could modify this little simple user input script to help you out
vocal rivet
mellow mauve
That's assuming that you have something open tho
what if you remember you had to do something but the computer is turning off already
vocal rivet
Well if I closed my code editor I either have already saved or already lost the code
mellow mauve
XD
vocal rivet
Well startup takes 3 seconds so XD
mellow mauve
Plus, you use Notepad++ right?
NPPP has an automatic backup and save feature
it saves a temporary backup basically every time you edit the file and then also creates a backup every time you perform a save
vocal rivet
I changed to Visual Studio Code
mellow mauve
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
vocal rivet
The integrations are great
vocal rivet
Actually VS:Code is awesome
vocal rivet
I am sure a lot of people would tell you the same
vocal rivet
When you are a C# or .Net developer, Visual Studio is also a great tool. Code is the code editor and Visual Studio is the IDE
mellow mauve
I have visual studio
2012 i think
I stopped updating after I discovered Java in 2014
and then I stopped updating Java SDK when I discovered Python
last year
vocal rivet
I personally dislike python
vocal rivet
and with a different syntax
mellow mauve
do you know visual basic
vocal rivet
Not much
mellow mauve
I've forgotten most of ot
vocal rivet
more likely not at all
mellow mauve
what's your most proficient language?
vocal rivet
Lua
vocal rivet
print"Hello World!"
what if, you wanted to print that only if variable foobar was True
vocal rivet
if foobar then
print"Hello World!"
end
A line less does not mean much
mellow mauve
well, that's just a simple example, when you start getting larger programs, the line savings becomes more significant
a large block of code in java could be done in several lines in python
vocal rivet
Thats not the point of a language. the point is efficency.
https://www.codingdojo.com/blog/9-most-in-demand-programming-languages-of-2016/
vocal rivet
Yes you do ... thast the point
mellow mauve
Hmmmmmmmmm
Python is not gonna be efficient cuz it's interpreted
Lua is interpreted also yea
vocal rivet
Yes, that is true. But JS is also and is a preffered over Py
mellow mauve
js has bad readability tho
Each has its purposes too
you won't use JS to run an AI
and you won't use Python to run the front end of a website
vocal rivet
Neither would I use Python for a AI, I would use C#
mellow mauve
I don't know C# so I'd use Python xD
I guess you could say, I can't C#
(see sharp)
get it!
mellow mauve
xDDDD
mellow mauve
Hmmm would definitely say I can understand the gist of some C# code thanks to java
But I don't know about writing it from scratch
I'd have to check out the structures, types and such
y'all got much interest in lambda functions?
in java they're like anonymous classes
mellow mauve
I'm a full stack developer, I can develop a full stack of pancakes.
vocal rivet
haha XD
mellow mauve
Joking aside, I never got into web dev as I was more into app development and console apps
as well as windows programs
but that's when I was into VB, which isn't very powerful
vocal rivet
I also developt some console scripts and software for Windows
mellow mauve
Yes
they've made it so much easier to make Android apps now tho
I pulled my hair out some years ago
vocal rivet
I know a lot of languages actually, C# is the one I am still learning currently
Yeah I found a SDK to write android apps in lua π
and websites
mellow mauve
also, surprisingly web dev and mobile app dev are slowly merging into one
teal sun
I like web dev
mellow mauve
a lot of apps now are just basically containers for web pages
if you did web dev, you've got a head start
Say so long to java based interfaces
however, some apps are sticking with native interfaces
and of course games were always written mostly in C++ for Android and iOS
cout << "Hello, World!";
:V
vocal rivet
I wanted to write a lesson plan app for a specific lesson planning software called Untis. I just didn't got my hands on it yet
vocal rivet
No I mean .. wait I amma google the translation shortly. I am missing that word in my vocabulary
mellow mauve
error 404?
vocal rivet
timetable was the word XD
mellow mauve
lesson scheduling
vocal rivet
and the current app does not support push messages or such which would come in very handy
mellow mauve
Google Calendar is pretty poweful
vocal rivet
because its a software for schools to tell students what lessons they have today
mellow mauve
ahh
child friendly
I remember when we used to be given a piece of paper which was the lesson schedule and we would keep the same paper for 6 months until the lessons were rotated
vocal rivet
This is the old GUI
mellow mauve
Yeap, exactly like that
vocal rivet
Yes, and I want a app that push messages me of changes
teal sun
stundenplan
Student plan? π
mellow mauve
Except ours wasn't colour coded
vocal rivet
Stundenplan = Timetable
teal sun
It's close enough to student plan in English though
So I guess it's like a semi cognate
mellow mauve
I'm surprised someone would spend so much time rebuilding Microsoft Excel online
And Excel would probably do a prettier job
how exactly does this software remind the student?
it shows them the schedule in general or just the lessons of the day?
"hey kid, check the schedule"
teal sun
I'd imagine as in 'You've got English in A1-4 now'
teal sun
I wrote a complication for my android wear watch that's a little bubble on the watch face that shows what lesson I have next
vocal rivet
Untis has a new gui actually
teal sun
Have your phone on silent...
mellow mauve
Vibrate mode
teal sun
Pull it out as you leave class, it shows where to go next
mellow mauve
Vvvvvvvvvvv
teal sun
Or that yeah
mellow mauve
vvvbvvbbvvvvv
teal sun
I just have all notifs buzz my watch
mellow mauve
vvvb vvb vvvb vvvvvvv
teal sun
Stop lmao
mellow mauve
xD
vocal rivet
the new GUI
mellow mauve
I once had a teacher that made everyone put their phones in a basket until the end of the lesson, and whoever's phone went off during the lesson had to do extra home work
teal sun
That looks really nice
mellow mauve
Much better
potent prawn
that content is super hard to understand if you've no idea what's going on
mellow mauve
The app should recognise the school bell ringing and cross check with the schedule time
the way of the future
teal sun
mellow mauve
Ahhhahaha classic
teal sun
Should 'recognise' the bell
mellow mauve
Brrrrrrringgggg
teal sun
You have a severe case of that problem ^^ π
mellow mauve
Yasss
record several samples of the bell on your phone and create an audio fingerprint
If the fingerprints match then you have a bell
Always on microphone, naturally
mellow mauve
super duper privacy policy to go with it
teal sun
And just compare it
mellow mauve
well, a bell is less likely to sound like a helicopter as much as a pigeon is gonna look like a dove
I hardly think the school has old style pulse telephone receivers that ring like a school bell
and even if they did, the app would check the schedule and notice that the time offset is too far from a lesson on the schedule
Imagine, getting the notification as soon as the bell rings instead of a minute before or after
the way of the future
Well, it's midnight, better get sleepin
goodnight y'all o/
cedar tinsel
Could I possibly automate plugin updates? Or even Paper updates?
I'm a caveman, hello
potent prawn
write bash script
I did one for Bungeecord
though we don't actually use it. I just wanted to make one lol
potent prawn
cedar tinsel
Unreliable?
potent prawn
if you're interested, can be modified to point to any other Jenkins repo
uhh it's just not really a good idea to auto update core services on a production environment
cedar tinsel
Bingo
hybrid loom
JDA currently makes me go crazy
I try to create a message, pin it and after that delete the "message got pinned" message, but it either...
...deletes the message that got pinned, or
...throws a bunch of errors and complains like that a .complete() action got blocked.
coral lantern
bloody school decides to host a all day sporting day 4 days before bloody exams
-.-
cedar tinsel
What is love
potent prawn
baby don't hurt me
cedar tinsel
Don't hurt me
potent prawn
π³ π΄ π² π΄ π· πͺ
cedar tinsel
Great effort
potent prawn
ty
rain edge
so when i place a command block it just disapears, its enabled in the server prop, heres my lp verbose if it helps