general

[bleak notch]

@rain edge install placeholderapi

[median widget]

oh ok

[hybrid loom]

As much as I love the freedom of speech: Don't post without permission

[median widget]

comon clippy this is important

[vocal rivet]

Please DM me what you wanted to say, I will check the TOS of discord myself if thats true

[median widget]

sent it to andre

[drowsy quest]

@hybrid loom it's true, but only for US. The EU has laws in place that invalidate such terms

[hybrid loom]

So...... still not needed to post here

[drowsy quest]

Why not? this is #general

[hybrid loom]

And?

I see it as spam. Done.

[drowsy quest]

I don't see anything wrong with posting valid information that affects a lot of the users here

[hybrid loom]

a lot

[drowsy quest]

It's not advertising

Yeah. All US users

Which is a lot

[hybrid loom]

It is spam for me.

[drowsy quest]

How?

[hybrid loom]

And I'm 100% sure, that everyone is at least on anothe guild, where something like that was posted.

[drowsy quest]

Still no reason not to post it

[hybrid loom]

Call it personal preferences, but I see it a spam. Specially since he should at least tell a mod that he wants to post that....

[drowsy quest]

Why?

What's spam about informing people

I mean it surely didn't have to be formatted like that

[hybrid loom]

^

[drowsy quest]

But no reason to delete it straight up as spam

[hybrid loom]

Also Rainbow dash checked the ToS and said, that there is no such thing....
And I don't believe, that discord has a seperate ToS just for the USA... Would be just annoying to maintain and update multiple ToS

[drowsy quest]

Incorrect

Every major international online service company does that

[hybrid loom]

I give a fuck

[drowsy quest]

Good to know you couldn't care less about the users of an entire nation

But who am I to judge

[hybrid loom]

Says the person living in a land that had more issues of that kind in the past....

It's the issue of them and not of this discord.

[drowsy quest]

Yet again. What's wrong with letting that information stay in #general

[hybrid loom]

And if it is really THAT important, then, they would have already got this information somewhere else

[drowsy quest]

WTF is wrong with you?

Seriously

It's not about you

[hybrid loom]

Why do you care?

[drowsy quest]

Because I care about other people

What a strange concept

[hybrid loom]

That thing is invalid in either way, since you can't have a ToS, that breaks basic law and rights you have. And the USA does to my knowledge also have this right, which should be disabled by this ToS change.

[drowsy quest]

Incorrect again

USA != EU

TOS can fuck you over so bad

[hybrid loom]

Doesn't mean that they don't have that

[drowsy quest]

They don't have it

That's the issue here

[hybrid loom]

Go and live in the USA and learn the law there before saying that what I said is wrong

[drowsy quest]

And it's no new thing that US laws don't give two shits about consumers

I actually do know a shitton about American laws

[vocal rivet]

I read the ToS, and it just says that suing needs to go over a "arbitrator" they don't prohibit Mass Suing at all, the arbitor is btw the common way of doing a mass sue. If they would prohibit it, the ToS wouldnt be legal in the EU nor the US

[hybrid loom]

Rainbat Dash is typing...

[drowsy quest]

And I've lived there

@vocal rivet different TOS in the EU afaik.
And second havng to go to an arbitor means you can't sue directly

[vocal rivet]

I was still reading it and just found this:

BITTE LESEN SIE SICH DIESEN ABSCHNITT SORGFÄLTIG DURCH. ER ENTHÄLT WICHTIGE INFORMATIONEN ZU IHREN RECHTSANSPRÜCHEN.

Sie und Discord willigen ein, jegliche vorgetragenen Streitigkeiten individuell beizulegen, nicht im Auftrag oder als Teil einer angeblichen Sammelklage, eines Konsolidierungs- oder Stellvertreterverfahrens. Der Schlichter kann in einem Fall nur die Forderungen einer Person oder Rechtspersönlichkeit behandeln und weder einer Sammelklage, noch einem Konsolidierungs- oder Stellvertreterverfahren vorsitzen. Die Entscheidung oder der Schiedsspruch des Schlichters im Fall einer Person oder Rechtspersönlichkeit kann sich nur auf die Person oder Rechtspersönlichkeit auswirken, die die Forderung vorgebracht hat, nicht auf andere Kunden von Discord. Außerdem kann die Entscheidung oder der Schiedsspruch nicht verwendet werden, um andere Streitigkeiten mit anderen Kunden zu klären.

Wenn ein Gericht oder Schlichter festlegt, dass der Verzicht auf eine Sammelklage, auf ein Konsolidierungs- oder Stellvertreterverfahren, wie in diesem Abschnitt dargelegt, aus irgendeinem Grund unwirksam oder nicht durchsetzbar ist oder das Schiedsverfahren nicht als Sammelklage, Konsolidierungs- oder Stellvertreterverfahren durchgeführt werden kann, können die Streitigkeiten und Forderungen keinem Schiedsverfahren unterworfen werden, sondern müssen vor das Bundesgericht in San Francisco, Kalifornien, gebracht werden. Dieser Verzicht auf Sammelklagen besteht auch dann fort, wenn Ihr Account gekündigt oder die Dienste eingestellt werden.

[drowsy quest]

EU

[hybrid loom]

Then why did they "update the ToS globally" when the EU changed law?

[vocal rivet]

I take back what I said

Sie und Discord willigen ein, jegliche vorgetragenen Streitigkeiten individuell beizulegen, nicht im Auftrag oder als Teil einer angeblichen Sammelklage, eines Konsolidierungs- oder Stellvertreterverfahrens.

[drowsy quest]

So much about that

Good to know that Discord has invalid TOS in the EU

[hybrid loom]

Still give a shit

[drowsy quest]

@hybrid loom this is not about you, nor is it your channel

[hybrid loom]

I mean did you read the ToS? Don't answer with yes, since that would be just a lie

[drowsy quest]

Did you read it?

[vocal rivet]

I did, just 1 minute ago

[hybrid loom]

Honestly: No.
Because at the time I made that account, it was basicly the same ToS you find everywhere else. I quickly read some of the paragraphs.

[drowsy quest]

And I mean if several independent people concluded that US users are pretty much fucked, then who are you to disagree with your vast knowledge of US laws and law culture

[hybrid loom]

He should just change the stile of the post. You said it yourself that it could be better/different

[vocal rivet]

uhm .. well BrainStone ... there is something else in their ToS which is legal to US and EU law ... if you want to Sue them you have to do that over the court in San Francisco

Means: US laws

[hybrid loom]

Because that's their location/center.

[drowsy quest]

Afaik that's not legal in the EU either.

[hybrid loom]

They don't have a EU-location to my knowledge

[vocal rivet]

Wenn Ihr Wohnsitz außerhalb der Vereinigten Staaten liegt, wird das Schiedsverfahren in San Francisco, Kalifornien, eingeleitet.

it is since Discord is a US Inc and not a german concern

[drowsy quest]

Service providers have to follow the laws of the country they provide in. Whether they have a seat there or not

[hybrid loom]

@drowsy quest Feel free to start a legal action against them

[drowsy quest]

@hybrid loom now do you have an other reason to remove that post other than "I don't like it"?

[hybrid loom]

He can repost it, but at least should change the format.

[drowsy quest]

I see that message as spam. End of discussion

What the actual fuck?

[vocal rivet]

If you want to sue a US-American concern from Germany, you have to do that over a US Court.

• juraforum.de

[drowsy quest]

Then we're fucked too

Great 👍

[hybrid loom]

afaik can you go to the embassy of the country, since it's the "land" of that country

[drowsy quest]

Not for legal cases

[vocal rivet]

Yes, well as long as discord does no major fuckup, I dont care, when they do there will be a mass sue no matter what

[drowsy quest]

@vocal rivet from when is that information btw?

Before or after GDPR?

Because after that's not longer valid. I'm 99% sure on that. Have gone through several trainings on that topic, because it's part of my work

[vocal rivet]

Me too, but from what I have read, a Concern has to explicit offer content for a EU country to make it volurnable. But since discord has a German website, this is the case here.

btw the post is from 2009

[drowsy quest]

Super outdated

[vocal rivet]

again, you are right. The GDPR should prohibit that since discord also targets EU users

[drowsy quest]

There have been several changes. So even before the GDPR they can be sued in a German court because the offer service to German citizens

Very interesting that they haven't made an EU TOS

[vocal rivet]

GTranslate 😛

[drowsy quest]

Because as it is there are several clauses that are invalid, which invalidates the entire TOS

@median widget would you mind posting that info again? But please keep the formatting to a minimum

[hybrid loom]

"paper is patient"

They can change the ToS, but still have their own rules.

Or why do you think that law-stuff takes days, weeks or even years to be finally judged?

[drowsy quest]

I know it does

[vocal rivet]

I still hope the Uploadfilter gets denied in the last phase

[drowsy quest]

But courts only take into account the state it was when the lawsuit started

Including laws and TOS etc

[vocal rivet]

Well we can start a lawsuit, and the fun thing is when we win discord has to pay a lot more of money, because they dont just need to pay every single user that sued a compensation, but also the lawsuit costs of every single user

Sadly most wont participate as they dont see how they could win against a big co like discord

[hybrid loom]

@drowsy quest You should read the EULA of iTunes...

[drowsy quest]

Invalid again

[hybrid loom]

I mean it's about building missiles..... with iTunes

How the fuck should that work? 😂

[drowsy quest]

I mean who doesn't know the essential rocket control program "iTunes"

[formal seal]

IMPORTANT PRIVACY ALERT
Discord's new ToS makes you give up your right to sue or class-action them, forcing you to go through an arbitrator. Not even deleting your account will nullify this cause.
Why does this matter? If Discord does a major fuck up, like a data breach or something, there is no way for everyone affected to sue together. Everyone must individually sue via the arbitrator, which is extremely inconvenient and complicated and is why the class-action was invented in the first place. Plus, the company gets to pick the arbitrator, which is almost always heavily biased to the interests of the company.
The good news is that there is a way to opt-out. You must send an email to Discord WITHIN 30 DAYS.

See this Reddit post for details: https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/9p5uyp/latest_tos_update_revokes_your_right_to_sue/e7zbqzs

[vocal rivet]

Euro Truck Simulator MP states in their ToS that every user has to buy a working washingmachine XD

[formal seal]

or should I do this when you're done arguing?

[vocal rivet]

Nah

[hybrid loom]

If BrainStone really wants that so badly, then he can pin it....

[minor socket]

I am god 😂😂😂

[bronze loom]

leaving this here bye

[hybrid loom]

🙄

[minor socket]

😁

[cedar tinsel]

If I have multiple ranks on my server that you don't buy with hard currency but each rank has a better or a new perk (for example, one rank has 2 backpack slots, the other has 3) and you get those ranks by playing and paying with soft currency (in-game money), would that be compliant with the EULA? In my opinion, it's basically Play2Win rather than Pay2Win

[hybrid loom]

If you sell anything that gives some advantages (items, commands that change stuff like gamemode, kits, etc.) then it's against EULA

[cedar tinsel]

So this is good, since I am not selling it

[hybrid loom]

I'm not sure about ingame-money

If there is a way, to get the ingame-money through real money, then it could be against EULA

[cedar tinsel]

There is no way

I am not gonna be selling soft currency for hard currency

The in-game money would have to be earned and used to rankup and they'll need a certain amount of playtime to rankup

[potent prawn]

that is totally fine as long as hard currency is not involved

[cedar tinsel]

Alright, thanks

Still got no idea what I can sell that is purely cosmetic

Other than a prefix

[hybrid loom]

chatcolors, particle effects

[potent prawn]

auras, trails, pets

i give supporters (paying members) access to signs that can change the server time/weather as well, things that affect everyone is EULA compliant

[cedar tinsel]

Okay, thank you for your help, you've helped me alot with this

[hybrid loom]

ok

[vocal rivet]

The responce from discord to their new ToS

[hybrid loom]

yeah

I honestly feel good, to live in europe

[vocal rivet]

[hybrid loom]

Specially in switzerland

germany is already pretty strict in terms of data-security... I guess?

But switzerland is a bit more strict

[vocal rivet]

GDPR was like a punch to the face for much people

[hybrid loom]

I mean I can't even get a google pixel (probably because of it having a voice thing that could record my voice)

[vocal rivet]

and the Uploadfilter which may come now is like another punch for every small concern

[teal sun]

Yo @drowsy quest can I write a guest article for MC Server Rant? 😂😭

[drowsy quest]

@teal sun sure. What do you want to write?

[teal sun]

@drowsy quest About power imbalances and how owners don't trust staff

Admins not having permissions to actually do stuff

Etc

[drowsy quest]

Sounds good

[grave summit]

Void, just make sure you talk about both sides of the story. I heavily restricted my admin roles. They had mod permissions and then a few administrative permissions to fix player issues. That was because I've previously had admins mess around and ruin maps, ruin player progress etc.

[teal sun]

Good point

[hybrid loom]

@teal sun that's an actual issue for me atm.
Not on MC tho.

[teal sun]

Lots of discords have that issue too

The whole UDC think made me think about it

[hybrid loom]

And I thought about making a post about discord guilds (what you should do and what not) on my blog, because they are technically servers.

[leaden ocean]

Where I staff, every admin gets complete access to machines xD

[teal sun]

^

Admins should be indistinguishable from owners

And they should have full trust

[leaden ocean]

What vanilla servers consider admins is really what our senior mods are - as in they have console access

[teal sun]

Yah

Lots of people give admins essentials.* and that's it basically

[leaden ocean]

Heck, our lowest staff rank get creative xD We've only ever had a couple times when a staff has messed around with it, and it's easily rectified

[hybrid loom]

Admin = administrator = (in theory) full perms

[leaden ocean]

(We sort of take complete server backups every 10 minutes, so we can grab data when we need it)

If admins don't have full privileges, I'd at least create another staff rank and give it to one person which can (that way everything backend isn't left to one person)

[bitter robin]

@leaden ocean do you have some script to take backups

[outer vessel]

Hey Artuto! Please don't tag staff members.

[bitter robin]

no u

[leaden ocean]

Nope, we use custom software

[bitter robin]

i see

[cedar tinsel]

Is turning anti-xray in Paper.yml a good move and how big of an performance impact does it have?

[minor socket]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1053390822991790083?s=21
God 😂😂😂😂

Elon Musk (@elonmusk)

Had to been done ur welcome

Retweets

38403

Likes

93777

Twitter

[vocal rivet]

Is .. is that legit?

[minor socket]

No it's meme 😂

But even if it was real

It would be good hahahahaha

[vocal rivet]

;-;

WHY NO FORTNITE DANNY DELETO? ;-;

[hybrid loom]

I would support him for that move....

Fortnite is just cancer for me -_-

[vocal rivet]

Yes it is

[cedar tinsel]

Can anyone recommend a good anticheat for 1.13.1?

[strong mountain]

@cedar tinsel reflex is working on their 1.13.1 update right now

[vocal rivet]

Very nice

[glossy kelp]

😂

[vocal rivet]

He added me on Discord btw XD

[hybrid loom]

Such people are just...

Another month is paid for the VPS of my bot....

I could ask for donations, but I kinda feel bad to do that...

[drowsy quest]

From experience I can tell you, that won’t help either

[hybrid loom]

yeah

I'm just a guy that don't like to get donations, since it feels like I owe the person something

And I wonder how difficult it would be, to edit a gif in java...

[bitter robin]

having free vps is the best

[vocal rivet]

My VPS costs me 3€ per month

[teal sun]

My dedi costs me about 35€ a month hahaha kms

[vocal rivet]

I have a dedi and a VPS

Dedi: 37€ per month
VPS: 3€ per month

[teal sun]

Ah

Which dedi model?

[bitter robin]

ppl paying smh

ok i stop

[hybrid loom]

I had a total of €30 to pay.
€16 for my VPS and
€14 for a MC-server

[vocal rivet]

@teal sun What chu mean?

[outer vessel]

Hey Rainbat Dash! Please don't tag staff members.

[vocal rivet]

btw the new bot is already a runner

[cedar tinsel]

@outer vessel i'll kill you while you sleep

[drowsy quest]

I pay 130€ for 2 dedis

[cedar tinsel]

Holy sh*t

[hybrid loom]

Thats basicly nothing...

[cedar tinsel]

130 monthly?

[vocal rivet]

I would like to pay 230 per month for a lot better server, but I dun have the money

[cedar tinsel]

Geez, my host is 4 euros a month...and my domain was 3.5 euro for a year 😂

[hybrid loom]

Wait until the renew

And dedis can be pretty expensive

[cedar tinsel]

Yeah I knew that, but 130 a month is insane to pay

[vocal rivet]

128 Gb RAM and 3x4Tb HDD + 2x 1Tb SSD
and 2x 16 core processors which I dont remember anymore

[cedar tinsel]

That's some nice gear

[vocal rivet]

230€ per month XP

[cedar tinsel]

god bless

[neat saffron]

im trying to use maven on eclipse

but it wont auto import/download the dependencies

@teal sun

[outer vessel]

Hey Felix | CodingMachine! Please don't tag staff members.

[hybrid loom]

Anyone understands this logic? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/165129131770511360/503307674197295106/unknown.png

[twin warren]

1E+1 is a way of formatting 1 * 10^1 or 1 multiplied by 10 to the power 1, which is really just 10

so the /papi command is just formatting the result badly

@hybrid loom ^

[hybrid loom]

@twin warren Nah. It was the API I used for it... And 1E+1 actually means 10

[twin warren]

ya woops

i corrected my reply

[hybrid loom]

👍

[cyan sierra]

where did u get the domain?

emm

i was out of date didn't scroll down

ignore me

[vocal rivet]

@cedar tinsel
To the "lot of power thing" Microsoft services like Sharepoint and Exchange would already exceed that hardware

[cedar tinsel]

What?

[vocal rivet]

TO the discussion about servers we had earlier

MS Exchange uses 128 Gb of ram

[drowsy quest]

Highly depending on the amount of the clients

[hybrid loom]

Is that good? http://www.andre601.com/server-reviews/common-issues-on-discord-guilds

(It's obviously my opinion tho)

[drowsy quest]

*empfohlen

Runs with a lot less

[vocal rivet]

Minimum of recommended

[drowsy quest]

That's the specs for a decent amount of users

I know though if you have only 5 users you can run it with a few GB easily

[vocal rivet]

Sharepoint ( another Service by MS ) recommends to have 64 Gb minimum, I have tried installing it without any users to begin with, it couldnt start with 16Gb ram

Ram used up within 10 seconds

I dont trust MS anymore with ram XP

[hybrid loom]

My gf uses LP.
I knew she's the right one ^-^

Even tho she called it LuckyPerms

[drowsy quest]

😂

[hybrid loom]

And now she's sad, because of me being an asshole and rude

[drowsy quest]

😂 😂

[hybrid loom]

That's nothing to laugh about

I feel like shit because of that

[drowsy quest]

Schadenfreude, my dear xD

Anyways, make sure to apologize and keep in mind that there are usually two or more ways to correct someone

And it's not like I haven't done stupid shit like that before

It happens. But you gotta move on and make sure to not do it twice

[teal sun]

I called my friend swollen

Didn't go down well...

[coral lantern]

@real gust bloody nooraaa long time

[hybrid loom]

My very first public expansion on PlaceholderAPI 😮
https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/Math-Expansion

[vocal rivet]

Anyone else having much troubles with those Advert SelfBots ?

[drowsy quest]

Yup

I’m thinking about writing a counter bot that will spam these servers to death

[vocal rivet]

Did already and made it open source. Do you want it?

[drowsy quest]

Sure

Nothing more fun than spamming spammers

[vocal rivet]

Well it auto bans em spam bots

[drowsy quest]

That’s pointless for me

I don’t have an announcer

[potent prawn]

oh are these the people on discord with ads in their names?

[drowsy quest]

Yup

[potent prawn]

hasn't been a problem for my guild but I hate them all the same

[vocal rivet]

They expanded

Now a lot of people have that bot script

[drowsy quest]

As I said. Best idea would be following the ads and spamming their servers

[potent prawn]

Best idea would be Discord having a brain and actually limiting their usernames

[vocal rivet]

Does not work with a paypal.me link, a selly link or a twitter link

[drowsy quest]

But let’s be honest. That’s not gonna happen

[potent prawn]

I suppose they have no problem with people advertising their own service

[drowsy quest]

Yeah. But most are Discord invites

Counterbotting would actually get them to do something

[vocal rivet]

I have asked discord support, the only responce I got:

Hi Me,

Discord uses a variety of anti-spam technologies, and I appreciate the feedback! 

In the meantime, please report the specific bots here. 

[drowsy quest]

Because avoidable traffic

[vocal rivet]

How do you spam servers of people that dont send a discord invite, but a selly link or a paypal link?

10 bots today, just one was a discord server

[drowsy quest]

For me it’s the opposite

You can spam twitter too

[vocal rivet]

People did, they just got blocked and banned

[drowsy quest]

Not using your own account obviously

[vocal rivet]

The person behind that does not care about anyone spamming them

He does not even use discord anymore

[drowsy quest]

They might if 90% is spam

[vocal rivet]

That happened on twitter and his twitch

he still gets the views and thats what he cares about, nothing else

His name is Bimzy

I can give you his twitch and twitter

[drowsy quest]

Yeah. Won’t matter

Getting a Discord bot will be hard enough

That’s not a “bot” bot I mean

[vocal rivet]

You mean getting a self bot?

[drowsy quest]

Yup

Not just one. A whole army

[vocal rivet]

Thats literally logging into a discord client and reading the token, thats all

[drowsy quest]

I mean it’s doable. I just don’t know how

[vocal rivet]

Press Ctrl+Shift+I

Goto application

Then expand local storage and select "fingerprint"

thats a token

use that instead of a bot token

[potent prawn]

I don't have fingerprint

under local storage

[vocal rivet]

token?

AH wait. When you have opened it you need to press Ctrl+R then it should show "token"

not fingerprint

[potent prawn]

ahh gotcha

but what is this token for?

ohh the token for my account

[vocal rivet]

also when you expanded localstorage it should say https:// ... etc click that to get the table view on the right side

[potent prawn]

i see

[vocal rivet]

Yep

The Bot API and the UserAPI work in the same way, which is why its easy to use any bot api behind a user account

As example a bot token for the api looks like this:
Bot 00000000000000000000000
and instead of that Bot ... You enter your user token there

Discord does not make it hard to create selfbots sadly

They could do so much. As example how about a adress validation for usage of the developer API ? That way just people which really want to develop for discord will get access to the api, and if anyone abuses it they have their adress and can block it, so they can never use the same adress again to get access to the developer api

Or dont allow links as usernames

or dont allow people to join THOUSANDS OF DISCORD SERVERS AT THE SAME TIME

[potent prawn]

wait so a user account has access to the Discord bot API?

[vocal rivet]

Yeno
When you open discord it accesses a API for it to be able to connect to discord, right? It is the same API bots use, bots are just normal users with a "Bot" behind their name, thats literally the only difference

I could also log in as my bot

but thats a bit trickyer

[potent prawn]

WTFDISCORD

they need to buff their security

[vocal rivet]

Indeed

But they got like thousends of reports, they dont care

They are like "What you gonna do? Go to Skype? XD"

[potent prawn]

slack is a much better alternative

[vocal rivet]

They didnt had a self hosted option right?

[potent prawn]

no - but there is Mattermost https://mattermost.com/

[vocal rivet]

Uhh, I like~

thx

[hybrid loom]

@vocal rivet I know a bot that just got an update, where it auto-nicks (or autoban even) users with an invite in their name.
It even replaces the name with [ Link removed ] in join-messages, kick-, ban-messages, etc.

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, i codes a bot myself and it worked perfectly so far

[hybrid loom]

Awesome.

And meanwhile I hope my ticket-bot becomes popular...

[vocal rivet]

My bot is currently used in 28 Guilds ( the hosted one ) and I have no idea how much people use the self hosted alternative

Since my bot is OpenSource

[hybrid loom]

Mine is on 600+ guilds and is also OS

The support one tho is only on 10+

[mint inlet]

Hey @twin warren - Sorry to ping. But, there was a time you shared your IntelliJ theme. Mind linking it again? 😛

[outer vessel]

Hey Gianluca! Please don't tag staff members.

[twin warren]

yep

just a sec

https://gist.github.com/lucko/60d2b1ab9da449e6eae808cda355a095

there ya go @mint inlet

[mint inlet]

ty

[hybrid loom]

What for a theme? 🤔

[gusty summit]

Is this to small for Luck in my sql? max_allowed_packet = 16M

It is recommended to set the value to the size of your largest packet

[drowsy quest]

You should leave the MySQL settings alone if you don’t know what you’re doing

[teal sun]

Seconded ^ Default settings are chosen for a reason, it's not just the dev's shoe size

[hybrid loom]

@potent prawn He answered

[sonic raven]

Hi there! how can I order my prefixes in tab?

[fluid merlin]

I’d recommend a plug-in like multichat if you’re running bungee

[sonic raven]

I believe multichat only applies to chat and not the tablist

[fluid merlin]

Using the %PLAYERNAME% setting in config, it should show in tab. I think t requires GlobalTablist

[sweet wind]

@molten siren it should be something like /setfirstspawn to make sure that’s the first then /set worldspawn and /setspawn

idk why there are 3 cmds but u might as well do all 3 lol

also set gamerule spawnRadius to 0, that was they’ll always spawn in that place

[sonic raven]

can i set chat colors through luck perms? and i dont mean the groups

[hybrid loom]

Maybe by making a suffix that only contains a colorcode

But LP doesn't manage chat at all, so it's more a thing for your chatplugin to do

[sonic raven]

ah kk

[teal sun]

I own a couple of servers that I administrate but don't play on

[umbral brook]

how about turbo

Why u dont play?

[potent prawn]

because i prefer to play overwatch and destiny when i want to play a game

[umbral brook]

and why u void dont play

[teal sun]

I've done MC to death

It's just not interesting to me

[umbral brook]

u know how to play factions?

[teal sun]

Yes...

[potent prawn]

basically i only talk to my players on discord and get online if there are any pressing issues with no other staff around

[teal sun]

I've played MC right since it came out

I've played almost every type of gamemode

[umbral brook]

i had 4 years break and its kinda fun rn

[teal sun]

Different genres of modpack

[umbral brook]

id love to try .13

[potent prawn]

i only have played SMP

[umbral brook]

1.13

[teal sun]

So I'm not really into it because it's just kinda boring now

[potent prawn]

not interested in pvp minecraft culture lol

[teal sun]

Nah

I still write lots of plugins though

[umbral brook]

im interested in building

[potent prawn]

write me some plugins void

[umbral brook]

i bet they are paid

[teal sun]

Yeah

[umbral brook]

see

[teal sun]

Some people will pay so much o_o

[umbral brook]

i pay u 5 bucks to code that on join event player dies

happy april 1

[teal sun]

I feel practically rude charging like $30 for an hour and a bit of dev time but people pay it so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

lmfao

[potent prawn]

$30 is nothing tbh

[umbral brook]

with knowledge of urs i bet id get a lot plugins that people would byy

buy*

[teal sun]

I mean yeah but I'm 15

It feels strange

[potent prawn]

i wish i knew java lul. i guess people are willing to buy websites though. i should get into that market 🙃

holy shit you're only 15?? wow

[teal sun]

Yeah

🙃

[umbral brook]

im 9

[teal sun]

That tends to suprise lots of people on the internet when I say that

[umbral brook]

and i run server with 1 online person

thats me

[teal sun]

Wait you're legit 9?

[umbral brook]

i play with myself out there

well ok 8 and half..

[teal sun]

I play with myself too dw..

Really???

[umbral brook]

xdd

naw 17 soon 18

[teal sun]

Hehehe

[potent prawn]

you seem a lot more mature for your age, i guess

void, i mean

[teal sun]

Yeah I tend to use proper grammar which throws some people off

[umbral brook]

yh i was about to offer staff in my server for void cuz he seem mature

[teal sun]

I mean I don't really have... any time to dedicate at the moment

[potent prawn]

and i don't? offended

[umbral brook]

turbo i taged u too

cuz i wanted to offer for both of u

[potent prawn]

lol. i'm like older than both you combined 😂

[umbral brook]

its hard to find mature staff

[teal sun]

😂

[umbral brook]

lol

[teal sun]

With exams and my money making ventures I'm pretty busy most of the time

My GCSEs are soon 😄

[umbral brook]

wats that

[teal sun]

GCSEs are massive exams that determine what college you go to basically

By law everybody in the UK must have passed GCSE english and maths before they can leave school

So there's some like 25 year olds who can't pass maths still in school

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Certificate_of_Secondary_Education

[potent prawn]

damn i'd still be in school then

i failed in english

can't write an essay to save myself

[umbral brook]

ok @teal sun i tagged u lol

[outer vessel]

Hey Schiller! Please don't tag staff members.

[umbral brook]

ahahaha

im mature right?

wanted to say that ur really smart

but remembered that @outer vessel cries for tags so couldnt say that i tagged u lol

[umbral brook]

ok guys ty for ur responce sry for bein annoying :x gl on exams

ad cya both

and*

[teal sun]

@umbral brook Thanks... I guess

@potent prawn Literally same

[glossy kelp]

Also same.

Like, where the hell come that from

[teal sun]

My excuse is that I'm dyspraxic

According to my teacher I'm a level 8 (A*) verbally but when I put it on paper I'm like a level 4 (high D low C, the grade you need to pass by the skin of your teeth)

[ornate heron]

@gilded nova amirite??

[potent prawn]

Yeah I have a pretty good grasp on the English language, was the best speller throughout my school years, but those damn essays, man.

[leaden ocean]

By God... why did the government decide switching from the universal U-A* system to levels was a good thing xD

[teal sun]

@potent prawn Nope as in like I can do a verbal essay on language analysis or whatever fine

[leaden ocean]

It just makes me feel ancient when I see people talking about GCSEs in levels xD

[teal sun]

But it goes to shit if I write it

😂😂

[leaden ocean]

Do they not give you any writing aid?

[potent prawn]

i never got any

though this was like 10-15 years ago

[teal sun]

Nope I get extra time for it, that's it

It's basically dyslexia for writing and moving

As I understand it

[leaden ocean]

Sounds about right, yeah. Sadly I don't think there is much else they can do than give you extra time :/

[teal sun]

Yeah

[leaden ocean]

Are your English literature and language grades seperate or together? Mine were seperate but that may have changed

[teal sun]

Seperate

And the better one gets weighted double for our Progress8 score

Which is basically a number as to how well you've done overall

[leaden ocean]

Ah I see, hopefully you at least get a C on your literature and your language is amazing

[teal sun]

Thanksss but both are basically the same...

[drowsy quest]

Adding blocks and items has become such a pain in the ass in 1.12

[drowsy quest]

Are here any artist/texturers?
I’m working on a mod that turns power/energy into money and would like to have a decent texture for the block.
If you’re interested DM me, as I don’t think it would be appropriate to post the whole “ad” here

[hybrid loom]

I don't think I'm skilled enough for that 😂

[bitter robin]

Hey uhm

Someone knows anything? https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/unknown-dimension-network.343237

[vocal rivet]

Do you use bungee? Or MultiWorld?

I tried to find out a missing permission for a user and used verbose, just to find out that one of the admins used a endlessly looping command block. The spam was so real.

[vocal rivet]

MultiVerse*

[last epoch]

I have the latest version of ShopGUIPlus and I get this error when starting my server https://hastebin.com/dacugeheza.css

I've tried everything, redownload multiple times, deleting all the files for the plugin, configuring the config to a different setting. Nothing is working!

Anybody got any suggestions?

[drowsy quest]

@last epoch looks like some items in the config are bad

[last epoch]

I've deleted the whole of the config and retried and it just adds the files back which are bad

[leaden ocean]

That likely means the plugin is generating the config with the bad items. Since the config is generated, alter the config to how you want it and try again

[cedar tinsel]

Aaand I've finally purchased MC

[bitter robin]

@vocal rivet Multiverse on a Bungee network yeah

[vocal rivet]

How did you set the spawn?

[bitter robin]

Using CMI

/setspawn

[vocal rivet]

https://github.com/Multiverse/Multiverse-Core/wiki/World-properties#default-spawn-world

[bitter robin]

hmm

I doubt the spawn has anything to be here tbh

Because it only happens when players were in a different world

@vocal rivet

[vocal rivet]

What exactly is the issue? YOu just gave a error and asked how to fix it, can you elaborate?

It would help to know what the expected behaviour would be and what the actuall behaviour is

[cedar tinsel]

Anyone using WorldBorder plugin? What's a reasonable amount I should set it to?

[bitter robin]

[10:33:01 INFO]: Alej0hio lost connection: Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.EncoderException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Unknown dimension network id 11

People get that error when they join the server

It only happens when they logged out in a different world than the default one

[vocal rivet]

is that a error from Bungee or from your Spigot server?

[bitter robin]

Spigot

(paper)

[vocal rivet]

Do you have the plugin ProtocolSupport?

[bitter robin]

yeah

[vocal rivet]

Another user seemed to have that problem, until he removed that plugin

Try removing that plugin for a test

[bitter robin]

yeah but look at this comment https://github.com/ProtocolSupport/ProtocolSupport/issues/928#issuecomment-433427668

"PS filters invalid data"

So i guess MV is sending wrong data

[vocal rivet]

try another plugin. Ever heard of ViaVersion and ViaBackwards?

[bitter robin]

yes

but i want to support 1.8 too

[vocal rivet]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/viarewind.52109/

Allows you 1.8 and even 1.7

[bitter robin]

Not updated to 1.13 :/

[vocal rivet]

Yes it is

the latest update brings compability, they just didnt changed the tested MC versions

[bitter robin]

Lmao its CMI's fault

[hybrid loom]

Qucik grammatic question:
Is 0.1 second or 0.1 seconds correct?

[teal sun]

0.1 seconds

It's only second if there's exactly 1

[hybrid loom]

😕

[teal sun]

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/2139/should-we-use-plural-or-singular-for-a-fraction-of-a-mile

It's stupid, I know

Welcome to English

[hybrid loom]

German is much more stupid tbh

f.e. there's "Flügel", which can be used for many things...
It could be meant as

• Wing or
• Piano (often called a "Flügel" because of the open cover)

There are a lot of words, that can have multiple meanings.

[glossy kelp]

Same for Dutch

[teal sun]

Same for Spanish

[hybrid loom]

Dutch is surprisingly similar to german...
I could read and kinda understand it

[glossy kelp]

But that because Dutch come from Germany.

[teal sun]

I can read and understand some Dutch even though I don't speak it

Can't do the same with German

[glossy kelp]

Really?

[teal sun]

Yah

Give me some simle dutch?

[glossy kelp]

Strange, they say that Dutch come from german language, less then years ago though

Simle

?

[hearty trench]

It's funny how the "second/seconds" question happends in a lot a langages ^^ I always have that same question in french

[teal sun]

Idk like not It would greatly please me to kindly inform you that my native language is Dutch but just a random simple sentence like I like cheese or something

[glossy kelp]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Dutch_language

Eh

Hoe heet je?

[teal sun]

Oops my plane is taking off now

Got to go sorry 😦

I'll be back soon

[hearty trench]

Have fun ^^

[peak spoke]

I made the prefixes working, but there is a problem with my other infobox dissappearing.
https://imgur.com/a/IWUjEPL

This is the config: https://pastebin.com/m5pGxRk1

Pastebin
showTo: "all" priority: 100 type: DYNAMIC_SIZE showHeaderFo...

Added a ${} wrapping the LuckPerms variables, now it looks like this.
https://imgur.com/a/dtWqPIr

No prefix

[hybrid loom]

BTLP has his own placeholders. (including LP one)

https://github.com/CodeCrafter47/BungeeTabListPlus/wiki/Placeholders

Also small recommendation: You can use |- in header/footer text to have multiple lines (makes the \n useless and looks better imo)

f.e.

header:
- |-
  &fLine1
  &bLine2
  &aLine3
  ...

iirc does BTLPs default config even have that

[peak spoke]

What should i put on the "playerOrder"?

playerSet: network
playerOrder: "playerServerFirst,vaultGroupInfo,ServerAlphabetically,alphabetically"
playerComponent: {text: "&f${on_server}", icon: "${player skin}", ping: "10"}

What is the one to add?

[hybrid loom]

Depends.

You can have multiple set and BTLP will go through them by order

[peak spoke]

Do i need the PlaceHolderAPI for this?

Or MVdWPlaceholderAPI

[hybrid loom]

For what?

[peak spoke]

For the BungeeTabList to work with all variables?

[hybrid loom]

You need to have the SpigotBridge of the plugin on your spigot-servers

[peak spoke]

The SpigotBridge of LuckPerms?

[hybrid loom]

no

of BTLP

[peak spoke]

Yeah, i have the bridge from BTLP

But the prefix wont show up in tab. Thats the only issue

[hybrid loom]

Did you replace the %placeholder% with the right one?

[peak spoke]

I do think so

[hybrid loom]

You need to use the placeholder that is listed on the page

*of BTLP

[peak spoke]

${player luckperms_prefix}

That one?

[hybrid loom]

And since you have the bridge, you could also use the vault one

[peak spoke]

${player vault_prefix} ?

[hybrid loom]

yeah

[peak spoke]

It do work on Towny2 (1.13.1)

But not on Towny1 (1.12.2)

But i do use PermissionsEx on the one that do not work (1.12.2)

And i use LP on the one that do work (1.13.1)

[hybrid loom]

That's perhaps the issue...

[peak spoke]

Should i try to use the 1.13.1 or the 1.12.2 version of LuckPerms on the 1.12.2 server?

[potent prawn]

they're both the same version

[peak spoke]

Alright

[hybrid loom]

Latest LP works for all versions from 1.8.8 up to newest one

[peak spoke]

Alright!

I downloaded the LP and did everything correctly. Still no TAB

No rank in TAB

Could that be because i use 1.12.2 on that server?

[hybrid loom]

idk. Maybe

I can't remember if newest version of BTLP can't support 1.12

[gilded nova]

Hello, someone could help me with something
what happens is that I'm using luckperms and I want each group to have different color chat (I do not mean the prefix) what I want to change color is what comes out after the 2 points

[umbral skiff]

@gilded nova thats gotta be a chat plugin you can use one like deluxechat and I think essentialschat does the same

[drowsy quest]

@cedar tinsel Sophos was one of very few if not the only one that successfully blocked wannacry when it was zero day. Including all other ransomeware

And it came out the best by several independent institutions and tests

That’s why my company decided to sell it instead of others

But avast is really good too. I have to agree

[cedar tinsel]

Avira*

[drowsy quest]

Oops

Avira

[cedar tinsel]

I'm aware pre-generating a world with WorldBorder plugin is a good move, but what about pre-generating the end and nether worlds?

[drowsy quest]

Do that too

[heavy glade]

.

[drowsy quest]

?

[tranquil roost]

did someone from there are using fastlogin + authme?

Autoregister not working that should

This first message its from fastlogin its " you has been LOGED automaticaly "

And second its from authme " player its not registred "

🤔

[wooden mortar]

Hmmm, how create a triger on Sponge server? I mean, after i using command for example, server run from console another command

🤔

[ornate heron]

@gilded nova Ignores me

[drowsy quest]

@wooden mortar not sure if there’s a plugin.

What are you trying to do exactly where you’d need that?

[wooden mortar]

@drowsy quest i am still working on prefixes

[outer vessel]

Hey Ningaro! Please don't tag staff members.

[drowsy quest]

That doesn’t answer my question

What is the second command supposed to do?

Which command would it be and after what command do you want to run it?

[wooden mortar]

User use the command /Setprefix (prefix)
After server use the command /tab reload to update the Tab list with new prefix

[drowsy quest]

What plugin are you using for the tablist?

[wooden mortar]

Sponge Tab-Modifier

https://github.com/NipoCN/TabModifier

[drowsy quest]

Well then it’d be best to ask the author to have the prefixes auto update

Because these things don’t need caching

[wooden mortar]

This author’s last commit was a month ago, perhaps he is no longer alive... 💀
Perhaps there are other plug-ins for Sponge servers in which you can show the player's nickname with a prefix from luckperm 🤔

[glossy kelp]

Or he decide to just stop with the plugin/thing of him xD

[drowsy quest]

@wooden mortar check ore

[winter zinc]

I have the latest version of spigot (final build) so I can not update to newer versions. I am using 1.12.2

[cedar tinsel]

Newest Spigot version is 1.13.2

[winter zinc]

yay it works

yes

but i'am using 1.12.2

[cedar tinsel]

Not the newest one then

[glossy kelp]

You cant just update to 1.13.2 lol

[winter zinc]

nope

[glossy kelp]

A lot of plugins still dont work fully with 1.13.2

[cedar tinsel]

I have alot of them working for me

I have like 60 plugins

[glossy kelp]

60 plugins are not all plugins lol

[cedar tinsel]

True

But you dont need all of them

[glossy kelp]

Its not like he use the same plugins.

[cedar tinsel]

Maybe

[glossy kelp]

Why not just wait?

1.12.2 is still supported

[cedar tinsel]

Wait for what, I'm already 1.13.2

[glossy kelp]

Talking about Londek thing.

[cedar tinsel]

Ah, good

[glossy kelp]

But, i think this discussion is going be pointless. So, good for u that you have 1.13.2

[cedar tinsel]

Best decision indeed

[ornate heron]

Does anyone know if there is a worldguard option where it automaticly does a command for a player when you get in the region?

(My old players are at the old spawn and they need to go away from there

[vocal rivet]

you need a extra plugin for that: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/worldguard-extra-flags.4823/

Or just reset the old players spawnpoints

[ornate heron]

How can i reset spawnpoints tho?

Ehh ill just use The extra flags

[cedar tinsel]

Does anyone have experience with using WorldBorder plugin? How do I speed it up?

[rain edge]

Someone help me, my server crashed https://pastebin.com/uBMVKbi9

[hybrid loom]

Do you run Sponge?

[rain edge]

yes

[hybrid loom]

Then I can't help, because I don't have knowledge of Sponge 😦

[rain edge]

no, this doesnt really have to do with sponge, it was working fine a min ago

[hybrid loom]

It could still be a sponge thing 🤷

[drowsy quest]

@rain edge it’s a Sponge bug

Or maybe even a Minecraft bug

But it’s best to take that over to the Sponge Discord

[leaden ocean]

@rain edge Also, you're 250 versions behind. You'll get no support on such an old build

[placid pebble]

@teal sun :p

[outer vessel]

Hey MD (not that one)! Please don't tag staff members.

[placid pebble]

sorry clippy

[teal sun]

Lmao

Don't tag me or I'll ban you

😂😂

[placid pebble]

but I has verified

[teal sun]

but I has ban

[placid pebble]

no ban for verified pls

[glossy kelp]

[leaden ocean]

rekt

[placid pebble]

do you even plugin m8

[glossy kelp]

[teal sun]

Yes I made a plugin that fires an OnServerTick event 😃

And cancels it on reciept

😂

[leaden ocean]

10/10 useful

[cedar tinsel]

10/10 would buy

[hybrid loom]

@placid pebble Random question: Is there a way, to let EssentialsX auto-disable own settings, when a plugin is installed?
I want to make an AFK-plugin and if Essentials is installed, want to disable the auto-afk thing of it.

[glossy kelp]

That's a wunderbar plugin m8

[cedar tinsel]

Just change the auto afk in the config to -1?

[placid pebble]

Not easily, since that involves saving user configs the plugin config, which deletes all the comments from the config

[hybrid loom]

I mean Essentials has an API... right?

[placid pebble]

Yes, but I don't think there's any way to cancel auto AFKs afaik

[leaden ocean]

Is EssX built in a way to disable features like that?

[hybrid loom]

Does EssentialsX not load the settings on start and save them internal to not always check config?
Would be kinda better tbh

[placid pebble]

It does, but all of those fields are private and accessed with getters

[hybrid loom]

Because that is basicly the only issue I have so far.
EssentialsX gives the /afk command to my plugin, but still puts people to auto-afk, so maybe if the command is used by another plugin, disable afk completely?

[placid pebble]

merjilin: You can disable auto-afk with a config option, but that's the only way to do it

It'd be better to tell users to turn off EssentialsX's auto-afk in the config

That way, you're forcing users to pay attention 😉

[hybrid loom]

That's an annoying extra-step to do

[sonic shard]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hammer-super-mario-8-bit-qPD4yGsrc0pdm

😃

[placid pebble]

Yes, but by forcing them to use the config, it's explicitly clear to server owners what makes EssentialsX's feature turn off

[hybrid loom]

It's just my opinion, but when I would make Essentials (which gives the commands to other plugins by default) then I would also disable every feature, that correspond to an command.
Like again: Why having Essentials still putting you into afk, when the command is used by another plugin? That makes no sense from a logical point

I want to give people an easy way, to use my plugins and that makes it only more complicated (not much, but still)

Can I at least use the API to check, if the setting is active?

[placid pebble]

Because that feature (and the associated command - eafk, essentials:afk) is still there

Yes, you can ess.getSettings() and use the relevant ISettings methods to read the config

[hybrid loom]

..........ok?

[placid pebble]

EssentialsX doesn't actively check whether other plugins are claiming its commands - instead, it lets Bukkit decide which plugin should run the command, and if EssentialsX gets picked, only at the point does it then check if an alternative is available

The theory is that other plugins should take preference, and if for some reason they don't, EssentialsX passes the command over

That only happens once the command has both been run by a player, and only if Bukkit decides to let EssentialsX run it instead of the other plugin

[gilded nova]

https://hastebin.com/atuzejicic.java
Can you make it a plugin instead of permissionex to support luckperms

[hybrid loom]

@placid pebble Do you perhaps have a link to Javadocs of EssentialsX?

[placid pebble]

There aren't any published anywhere, so reading the source on GitHub is your best bet

[drowsy quest]

If you're into the Sponge/Forge community, I'd love if you could have a look at this and let me know what you think: https://forums.spongepowered.org/t/idea-energy-money/26019

[fluid merlin]

I’d love to help, and I’ve made a few mods in the past but it was YEARS ago. Maybe I can freshen up my skills and help you

[drowsy quest]

Not really looking for help with the actual mod

Only thing I could need is a decent texture

I'm not missing much until I have a working prototype

Essentially at this point all that is missing, is a GUI, the config and the actual convertion

Not more than two days of work

But thanks for your offer

[vocal rivet]

What kind of texture? Mekanism like or more like Universal electricity (i actually miss that mod ;_;

[drowsy quest]

Idk XD

Should optically indicate that it consumes power

Ideally that it also converts it into money

[vocal rivet]

How bout one side a drawn energy input and the other side atm like with cash logo on the display?

[drowsy quest]

It’ll accept energy from all sides

[vocal rivet]

Then best have a power symbol and a arrow pointing to cash symbol xD

[drowsy quest]

But I’ll take anything. As long as it looks decent

Did you see my draft?

It’s shown in the post

In a Spoiler at the bottom

It’s awful 😂

[vocal rivet]

I could try to make something. But i cant make promises

[drowsy quest]

That’s ok.

If you want I can make the block directional looking. Though I’d prefer not

In any case the repo is linked. You can just make a PR

[vocal rivet]

I can try today evening, as you know its 0:24

25*

26*

XD

[drowsy quest]

*28

XD

No hurry

[vocal rivet]

Well goodnight. Ttyl

[rain edge]

anyone know why I get this msg in my console, im getting really stressed. oml

27.10 23:19:24 [Server] INFO # Native memory allocation (mmap) failed to map 1602224128 bytes for committing reserved memory.```

[drowsy quest]

You’re out of memory

[potent prawn]

There is insufficient memory

needs no more description

[rain edge]

I have 9gb in my server and its uses about 5gb

[drowsy quest]

You need more memory. The only thing I’m not sure is whether you hit the JVM limit or if your system is out of memory

But I’d guess the first

[rain edge]

😔

how do I un-hit the JVM limit

[drowsy quest]

Increase the RAM you give the server

[rain edge]

I have a 9gb plan and the it only uses like 6

[drowsy quest]

Then give it 9

[rain edge]

It does have nine, it only uses 6 gb and theres 3gb left over. heres the crash report, please if theres any information that could help me please!!! ❤ https://pastebin.com/U28eyTrB

❤

[drowsy quest]

Ah I see

Contact your hoster

It’s an issue on their side then

[rain edge]

https://pastebin.com/J4Ba9J4u

heres the logs,...

the problem is they never reply, ik you guys are doing all you can but auh im so stressed..

[drowsy quest]

It sucks that they don’t reply

You might want to switch your hoster then

I mean errors like that mean they oversell their servers

And poor support too

[rain edge]

yeah thank for the talk, really appericate it

I even bought like Fast Track ticket answers and they dont lmao

[drowsy quest]

You should really switch then

You should also check if fast the ticket responses thing you bought has a guaranteed response time

[bitter robin]

selfhosting ftw tbh

my friend has a good machine where i host my things

[drowsy quest]

And if they do, contact them demanding your money back while threatening to sue. You’ll be surprised how fast they’ll answer that one

If you're into the Sponge/Forge community, I'd love if you could have a look at this and let me know what you think: https://forums.spongepowered.org/t/idea-energy-money/26019

[hybrid loom]

My bot went offline for no reason.....

And what's even more interesting is, that it only happened for the account. The bot/code itself still run without any errors

[potent prawn]

I had a similar thing happen yesterday. I noticed my bot wasn't working but when I opened up the screen session to check it was still running, but like it was playing catch up or something, it did everything it was meant to do all at once.

[hybrid loom]

The bot-accounts of all my bots where offline, while the code was running without errors

[fluid merlin]

@rain edge Obvious solution: Pull down all those files and host it yourself

[rain edge]

I like the idea but no thanks ❤

[polar thunder]

Guys

Anyone knows one Message Plugin (like /msg <player> <msg>) with multiple-bungees support?

i mean, redisbungee support..

[fluid merlin]

Can you bungeecord bungeecords

[potent prawn]

yo dawg

[rain edge]

how do i turn off lp verbose

[potent prawn]

lp verbose off

[rustic cobalt]

Bungee specifically blocks bungee > bungee proxying as it just breaks stuff and there is no real sane reason to do so

[fluid merlin]

Yeah I know. You could still put a bunch of bungees under another proxy.

[teal sun]

@fluid merlin @rustic cobalt You can if you alternate bungee and waterfall. I'm working on a plugin that allows you to do it to premium bungeecords

Well working on is a strong term, I kinda forgot

[drowsy quest]

@rustic cobalt I beg to disagree.
Proxying proxies has its fair share of useful applications. Minecraft is no different.
Though I do understand that the technical difficulties that’d have to be overcome are not worth the outcome.
But saying it doesn’t make sense to do it is flat out wrong

[bitter robin]

[rustic cobalt]

if you wanna do stuff like that, you should really look into something like haproxy instead of bungee in bungee, bungee maintains too much state and does a bit of a horrible job at it in the scheme of things

[drowsy quest]

I know that bungee is not the best choice. Even if it worked. I just take issue in your statement that there’s no sane scenario for proxying proxies

[rustic cobalt]

I said bungee -> bungee, given the very issue that bungee just doesn't play too well in these setups, i never said proxying proxies specifically as I'll personally encourage haproxy -> bungee setups as they don't have the issue of maintaining so much state in a way that bungee can't handle properly as it's not seeing everything that's happening

[vocal rivet]

What about CloudNet?

They also use bungee and it seems to work pretty well.

[rustic cobalt]

They're more than likely not proxying bungee instances through bungee instances

[drowsy quest]

I see what you mean

[hearty trench]

Hey guys, i'm not here for help on LuckPerms but has anyone had issues with the /tell or /msg command. On my server (Spigot 1.13.1), those commands do not send message anymore, yet the messages appear on console... Anyone that can help with that? (tag me or PM me)

[vapid sequoia]

Its says only...

Or its the problem this?

LuckPerms are in Litebans MySQL database.

[placid pebble]

@worn karma On Spigot, if you already have EssentialsX, try EssentialsX Chat

[worn karma]

@placid pebble I don't know why. But that plugin dosent work for me

[placid pebble]

Did you follow the instructions in the config?

And did you install Vault?

[worn karma]

I'll try again

[vapid sequoia]

Can anyone help?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308232296753004556/506879854877212697/unknown.png

It says only that

[hybrid loom]

What link?

Also what browser?

Because it runs for me

[vapid sequoia]

Chrome

I noticed that the /lp commands dosent work.

[hybrid loom]

In what way?

Also can you - as I asked before - provide the link of your editor-session?

[vapid sequoia]

I am writing /lp creategroup Owner and its says nothing.

[hybrid loom]

We need more info

[vapid sequoia]

https://luckperms.github.io/editor/?2tIeHsJfYN

[hybrid loom]

Like On what kind of server, what version, what LP-version, etc.

[vapid sequoia]

Dose it works for you?

[hybrid loom]

yes

[vapid sequoia]

Bungeecord

Spigot

Version 1.13.2

[hybrid loom]

What now?
Spigot or Bungee?

[vapid sequoia]

And 1.8

Bungee server

And my hub is spigot

[hybrid loom]

I'm asking about, where you run the command -_-

[vapid sequoia]

In Hub

And command /lp editor

[hybrid loom]

That should work or at least give any response

Checked console for errors?

[hybrid loom]

....Can you upload it on https://hastebin.com please?

[vapid sequoia]

ok

[hybrid loom]

Also what genius thought, that this error-color would be a good idea?

[vapid sequoia]

https://hastebin.com/igosinibav.md

[placid pebble]

It would normally be on a dark background :p

[hybrid loom]

There is no table in your MySQL-database @vapid sequoia

[vapid sequoia]

Yea it is

[hybrid loom]

nope

Table 'claysmcc_claysmc.luckperms_groups' doesn't exist

Did LP create those tables, or did you make it manually?

[vapid sequoia]

LP created

[hybrid loom]

Looks like it couldn't/didn't create the groups table for some reason...
Maybe blocked, maybe connection-issue or perhaps it's simply not in the plugin 🤷

But that's something that probably @twin warren can explain better, when he has time

[worn karma]

Do someone here know how to connect 2 computers home with bungeecord? I have the proxy at 1 and the server at one. What do I need to do in the configs?

[drowsy quest]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bungeecord-installation/

[placid pebble]

@naive rapids re: your question about those conflicting mod commands, I think Sponge has some sort of config to let you pick which command takes preference (a bit like CraftBukkit's commands.yml), but I don't know much about it

Looks like it's the sponge.commands.aliases section of global.conf - my guess is that adding home=ftbutils to that section might work

[rain edge]

whats the command to add users to a group in a network of servers

[digital crag]

lp user <user> group set/add/addtemp <group> [server]

[hybrid loom]

I would better use server=<server> than just [server] since default context is always world

[drowsy quest]

@hybrid loom nope. First server, then world

[hybrid loom]

Alright

[teal sun]

merijilin, your server sucks 😭

SF3-EU crashed as me and my friend died

So we can't keepinventory

Fucking rip

[hybrid loom]

gg?

[ornate heron]

LuckPerms is the best just saying

I always copy this whenever someone is arguing about permission plugins, + i have nitro so i can use the emojis anywhere 😛

[hybrid loom]

Nice 😂

[jovial adder]

Does anyone know of a plugin that allows players to get mini versions of them as in the entire body but shrunk down?

[teal sun]

Doubt that's possible

[jovial adder]

I seen it on a PE server XD

not sure about Java

[digital crag]

Hi.
Tell us what is better than Ubuntu/Debian /Centos and why?

[cedar tinsel]

Google.com

I am sure someone's answer would be long and I am definitely sure somewhere on the internet that question is precisely answered

[digital crag]

What are you using?

[cedar tinsel]

Whatever DeluxeNode provides

[drowsy quest]

@digital crag why exactly don't you want to use either of these?

And what do you want to do with your server?

[teal sun]

^

[digital crag]

Anyway, I just reinstalled Ubuntu)

[drowsy quest]

I can still try to answer questions you have

[digital crag]

No thanks

[unreal seal]

Can anyone answer a small question about ShopGUI+ please?

I am trying to get 1 empty slot, where it doesn't show an item OR the glass panes, but I do not know how.

[jovial adder]

@unreal seal place it in a slot after it

[unreal seal]

Already found another solution for it, not the best but it works.

[grave summit]

@jovial adder https://imgur.com/a/ld339
That kind of mini player?

[jovial adder]

@grave summit no it creates a smaller identical version of the player like this:

and act's like a real you...

[potent prawn]

i'd say that is most likely a mod

[jovial adder]

IDK how but I always thought it was just something you could make I mean it's on a Bedrock server... 🤷

[potent prawn]

i know nothing about the bedrock version, probably exclusive to that as I know that's not in any vanilla java edition

[cedar tinsel]

EssentialsX?

[hybrid loom]

That's either a mod or one of those datapack things @potent prawn @jovial adder

[worn karma]

When I add a permission to a group nothing happens

[hybrid loom]

How do you add the permission and what permission?

[worn karma]

Do i need to reload something?

With the console

[hybrid loom]

I mean the exact command.

And what console?
Bungee or spigot? What servertype?

[drowsy quest]

Also #support-1 please

[hybrid loom]

Didn't notice it lol 😂

[drowsy quest]

@fathom valve I'm pretty sure the plugin allows for some placeholders

Because the plugin needs to take care of placeholders before it executes the command on the console

[fathom valve]

Ah

Okay

[drowsy quest]

And no. It has 0 to do with LuckPerms

[fathom valve]

Alright I gotchu

Thank you anyways

🙏

[drowsy quest]

You're welcome

[hybrid loom]

If it supports/uses PlaceholderAPI you probably want to use %player_name% (make sure to have the player-expansion downloaded)

[fathom valve]

I'll check it out

[drowsy quest]

I'd first check the plugins docs on placeholders

[fathom valve]

Yeah I did

Didn't see the plugin I was looking for

[drowsy quest]

Don't you have a plugin already?

[fathom valve]

I do

[drowsy quest]

🤔

Ok

[fathom valve]

I mean, I can't see the voucher plugin on the docs

[drowsy quest]

And they don't have docs?

Ok

[fathom valve]

Lemme check

[drowsy quest]

So read them then

[fathom valve]

Pretty sure they don't

[drowsy quest]

Highly doubt they don't have docs for that

[fathom valve]

Correct

I'll fix it somehow though

[drowsy quest]

I mean the plugin would be unusable if they didn't have docs or examples on how to get the player name into the command that is supposed to be executed

[fathom valve]

Yeah

[drowsy quest]

Again. Check the plugin docs

[hybrid loom]

^

Good devs add a decent description on how to use their plugin.

...or they link to a wiki with a more detailed explanation

[drowsy quest]

Now comes my favorite part of modding...

Creating textures... :/

yay

[hybrid loom]

🤷

[fathom valve]

I fixed it

There were no docs, only a video where a guy briefly explained it

Again though, thank you for support

[drowsy quest]

You're welcome

[jovial adder]

Is there a way I can allow users to manage their enabled prefixes/suffixes bought from the server store (Buycraft) in-game?

[teal sun]

DeluxeTags?

[drowsy quest]

You should mention the plugin 😛

There are quite a few that allow server shops

[jovial adder]

Void only manages 1 not both

[outer vessel]

Hey Tech Bot 7! Please don't tag staff members.

[glossy kelp]

Griefprevention is the best claim plugin @wet gulch

[wet gulch]

there is /thrust command?

[glossy kelp]

/trust yes