not $1000
#general
teal sun
glacial elk
oh
teal sun
I personally wouldn't pay that
hybrid loom
But what I really hate is how he claims to teach you, to promote plugins.... and makes some of the shittiest promotions
Like abusing his very own plugins to advertise his course
kindred musk
linux or windows for a minecraft server?
hybrid loom
I think linux is best go
teal sun
^
kindred musk
okej thanks π
hybrid loom
No useless extra-stuff
teal sun
Windows introduces so much unneccesary bloat, and won't run most panels
kindred musk
ooh didnt know thanks!
glacial elk
void
coral lantern
brainstone did you work on hyperium?
coral lantern
oh lol
teal sun
@glacial elk Yes?
glacial elk
how do i change the rankup plugins command
coral lantern
@glacial elk what do you mean?
glacial elk
@coral lantern its another plugin void recommended me
coral lantern
oh lol
teal sun
@cedar tinsel EssentialsX is an updated version of Essentials
Actually made by MD678685, who's in this discord (see the verified category on the right)
And as far as I know, it's 1.13 compatible
teal sun
Yeah
Essentials will always try to take the 'back seat' as such, and allow other plugins to take the commands
But that wouldn't matter because they have completely different commands anyway
cedar tinsel
Alright, thank you for your help and guiding me π
teal sun
You're welcome! Let me know if you have any questions
cedar tinsel
Can you tell me what XMPP is by any chance? Do I need that?
cedar tinsel
There is, I think I saw it on their wiki
spare shell
Thanks
teal sun
For LP?
teal sun
That's out of scope of LP, you'll need to get your server signs plugin to pop the player's name into the command you want to run
teal sun
check their wiki
rustic cobalt
There are several command sign plugins which do that kinda stuff, ServerSigns was a decent one last I looked
drowsy quest
@cedar tinsel you probably mean XAMPP
Itβs a bundle to run a Webserver with MySQL and other stuff
drowsy quest
Itβs useful if youβre running a Windows PC and donβt want to go through the trouble of installing MySQL itself, as itβs super easy to install XAMPP. It also has built in PhpMyAdmin to make it easier to work with MySQL
drowsy quest
Ohhhhh
spring sparrow
What actually happens if you have 2 permissions plugins installed ?
drowsy quest
Theyβll conflict.
In the case of LP, LP will most likely disable its permission management so it can start a migration
@spring sparrow
spring sparrow
Okay, was just wondering.
gilded nova
I noticed the LuckPerms graphics are ever so slightly off center when I switched to a display with a higher resolution and checked Discord. This is present in every logo I've seen so far including the graphics on the Spigot page. I've gone ahead and make a simple gif to demonstrate this -- https://gyazo.com/65fa14a071a4c96beadb55e7b94e56d7
I made a new icon for the Discord that fixes this, though inspect element doesn't give me a super high resolution and Discord recommends a minimum of 512x https://i.imgur.com/cAwjBwB.png If it's something Luck, or whomever has the source graphics would be interested in fixing it's a simple enough task, and if they're unable I'm capable of doing so x
coral lantern
maybe they dont want it perfectly aligned π
potent prawn
i'm guessing that the lines are the center point of the image, the logo is offset to the right about 5 pixels
gilded nova
The lines are the same length and each begin where the green circle ends, notice the difference between them and how the one on top goes into a transparent area. If the two circles were properly aligned that wouldn't happen.
And yh that's entirely their prerogative if they don't want it fixed but in the off chance it was accidental I figured I'd point it out and have a go at changing it
minor cedar
Wie ist die Standard Permission fΓΌr LuckPerms?
gilded nova
Is anyone having a problem with gettng water to flow in 1.13? I've checked my files and removed most plugins and I just cannot work it out.
keen stump
Do you have essentials still downloaded? @gilded nova If so, essentials has a config edit for water flow.
gilded nova
Nope. I've removed the jar but the Essentials file is still there. I've checked the file and there's nothing in there that would prevent water flowing.
The water flowing is set to false so it's not conflicting. @keen stump
Could it be a java issue?
keen stump
water flowing set to false means that water flowing will not happen. If you still have the essentials file in your server, set water flowing to true and reload essentials and see if that works.
gilded nova
No that's not true. The config says this prevents.
So false would be allow water flowing @keen stump
See: # General physics/behavior modifications.
prevent:
lava-flow: false
water-flow: false
I found the answer! It was RandomTP. There's a bug or something that prevents placing water flowing from a bucket.
keen stump
Okay, I at first misread it. Glad you found it though!
gilded nova
@keen stump Dakoda on Hazebyte helped me.
keen stump
Cool!
gilded nova
All sorted now. The one plugin I didn't think would cause the issue, was causing the issue.
keen stump
Those are the things that getcha too when it comes to things like that
gilded nova
π
wide phoenix
Because you guys were so helpful yesterday about luckperm, i'm gonna try to ask here for offtopic minecraft server questions π
so the question of today : there is no 1.13.1 essentialX version ?
how do you use essentialX with 1.13 minecraft serv ?
rustic cobalt
Your option is basically to use the plugin "as is", if some feature doesn't work, you'll have to wait for it/find something to replace it
wide phoenix
ho ok... And wasnt essentialX one of the most used plugins for mc serv ? what do you guys use instead of essentialsX ?
spring sparrow
What's everyone running in terms of PC hardware, I'm using a Mac (Though a very high end one)
cedar tinsel
i7 3770, GTX 1060 3GB, 16GB of DDR3 RAM
rustic cobalt
Laptop is a 2011 mbp, desktop is a 2015 imac, was one of the higher models
spring sparrow
I'm getting a new GPU though, one of the only Macs you can upgrade a GPU in.
wide phoenix
@cedar tinsel Ho cool thx ! where did you download it ? from this jenkins page ? https://ci.ender.zone/job/EssentialsX/
cedar tinsel
@wide phoenix https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/essentialsx.9089/
cedar tinsel
my man, the old i7s are the hidden jewel
i planned on getting a i7 2600k, but found this one instead
coral lantern
nice
spring sparrow
i7 2600k is a great CPU even given its age
rustic cobalt
I remember the days when I thought 4G of ram was plenty
coral lantern
i remember the days when i thought ram increased fps
spring sparrow
I remember when 1GB of RAM was plenty lol
rustic cobalt
I got my mac with 16G and had to upgrade it to 24G, and I still could do with more
rustic cobalt
I still use XP in a few small VMs :3
coral lantern
my schools laptop is really really really bad
we got given them and yea lets just say not fun
cedar tinsel
every school's laptops/pcs are bad, haha
spring sparrow
XP is a 32bit OS so it can only address like 3.8GB of RAM
any more with XP is a waste
coral lantern
vaughn not the pc's in the mac lab lol
3 of the pc's in the mac lab are absolute rigs
rustic cobalt
PAE would allow it to address across that memory barrier, so not really the limitation π
cedar tinsel
my school has decent ones with g4560 and gt 1030 with 8gb of ram
coral lantern
nice
coral lantern
my IT teacher converted a old mac pro server into his personal admin computer lol
coral lantern
my friend found one on the street with a gtx 790 lol
spring sparrow
I've got a 2 SSDs in mine, 1 for Mac OS X and one for Windows
bronze swan
I'm on a fx6300 for cpu, r9 280 for gpu atm
coral lantern
my teacher has a stack of SSD's then if we get just normal spare sata hard drives
he get us to pull em apart for magnets
bronze swan
parts for my ryzen upgrade just arrived yesterday \o/
cedar tinsel
did you know FX cpu's dont have the number of cores they claim to have?
spring sparrow
Yes
cedar tinsel
for example, your fx 6300 doesnt have 6 cores, but 3 modules and each holds 2 cores
bronze swan
yeah
spring sparrow
Yes, I owned a FX cpu back when they were just out
coral lantern
doesnt that still mean it has 6 cores tho?
cedar tinsel
not the real cores really
since there is a bit of latency between the modules, makes it slower than an actual six core
coral lantern
o
rustic cobalt
Hyperthreading
spring sparrow
Tbh, I prefer intel over AMD, I used AMD in the past when I couldn't afford intel lol π
rustic cobalt
They basically duplicate some of the pipeline so that they can have two pipes pushing instructions
general gist is that you'll get better single core performance with it disabled, but you'll get better MT performance with it enabled
cedar tinsel
Yeah, Intel is unbeatable in single thread performance, but loses to ryzen when it comes to multithreaded performance
AMD has its own system, the SMT
bronze swan
kinda curious how amd managed the performance they got with SMT on their first try, more or less
coral lantern
"perfoamnce"
cedar tinsel
lol
rustic cobalt
They probably learn't their lessons from literally the rest of their CPUs
multithreading was always a massive hurdle to AMD
cedar tinsel
Yeah, they didn't really have an great set of CPUs back then, the FX ones were the latest and they were not that power efficient, and then again the "fake cores"
rustic cobalt
Like, back before attempting to hold AMD as close to intels top end CPUs was at the time, AMD at a reasonable like for like often provided much better performance for the value in terms of single threading, but MT was always a bit of a hurdle
cedar tinsel
Intel has dominated the most of the years, like look at my 3rd gen i7, it's a beast
rustic cobalt
and "fake cores" is an amazing fix for wanting more cores while having less silicon sitting doing nothing
bronze swan
on the flip side, I've heard some discontent with HT in intel's 9th gen i7s
or lack thereof
cedar tinsel
I am not sure about this but I think the i7 3770 can outperform the Ryzen 5 1600
atleast gaming wise
since the r5 1600 has 6 cores and a higher clock rate, it would win in sinthetic loads
bronze swan
according to userbenchmark they're more or less equal in ST
bronze swan
I think it's a bit of a stretch to call it false
bronze swan
it's not like they're going to go through the trouble of setting up a crowd sourced benchmarking service and then fake the results
gilded nova
Hello, is there a folder where you can measure all the permissions at once?
Hello, is there a folder where you can measure all the permissions at once?
Il faut toutes les ajouter Γ la main ?
bronze swan
but then again, no benchmark is really precise
except for the app you're expecting to use in the end
benchmarks don't necessarily need to be "precise", just consistent enough to gauge relative performance
cedar tinsel
Yeah, also not every CPU is the same, for example my i7 3770 can be better than some other i7 3770
Silicon lottery
But the difference wouldn't be huge
When overclocking aswell, some chip might get a certain clock rate, while some might not
bronze swan
they do take the silicon lottery into account iirc
the benchmark score is an average of all the results for that cpu, with a max and min
coral lantern
i reckon we can save power by powering our computers from lemons
cedar tinsel
or potatoes
wide phoenix
i have another off topic question : on my last setup i used bungeecord with two spigot to get a survival world and a creativ world, with different parameters and plugins. i want to used multiverse for this new setup, but i'm not sure anymore. Is it better to use multiverse ? or is it better to use multiverse ? Do anyone here use multiverse-core ? Is it easy to use and setup two different worlds (like creativ and survival in my case) ? What about performances ?
teal sun
I'd reccommend bungee over multiverse any day
rustic cobalt
I always recommend separating creative servers from standard servers
teal sun
^
wide phoenix
okay, giving up on multiverse then
then i have another question : what plugin would you recommand to link worlds ? (chat, portals, ...)
coral lantern
AdvancedPortals for your hub or whatever
ChatControl for chat
or bungee hcat or something
Bungeereport + BungeeStaffCha
litebans for your banning system
teal sun
@wide phoenix To link servers, some kind of plugin like an alias plugin (so /creative instead of /server creative etc)
cedar tinsel
I'd recommend ChatManager over ChatControl for chat since I've had a few issues with ChatControl
teal sun
And I use BungeePortals
coral lantern
ive got 1 for that vaugn
teal sun
I'm a happy user of ChatControl but I'm not really running a network
coral lantern
teal sun
My server is behind bungeecord but that's only for failover
leaden ocean
ew, bungeecord
teal sun
π¦
leaden ocean
mojang need to grow up and finally add transfer packets. Wouldn't need bungeecord then
teal sun
I like bungee
coral lantern
what is transfer packets?
teal sun
It presents some interesting technical challenges
leaden ocean
it's decent for vanilla, but for modded it's horrendous
teal sun
I imagine they'd basically tell a client to connect to different servers
leaden ocean
it can extend the time it takes to join a server to up to 10 minutes
leaden ocean
yeah that's the idea of transfer packets
mods do weird things in packets, bugeecord doesn't help that along
teal sun
I've put a modded server behind bungee with no performance loss?
leaden ocean
how many mods?
teal sun
All the mods
coral lantern
what is transfer packets!?!??!?!?!
rustic cobalt
Bungee and mods is horrible in general
teal sun
@coral lantern They don't exist
rustic cobalt
It's the concept of there being a packet which a server can send to tell the client to "connect here instead"
teal sun
Merjilin was suggesting they should be addded
leaden ocean
We have our own mod which uses transfer packets, but we can't us it without our own launcher
coral lantern
rip
rustic cobalt
I was actually talking to lex about bungee and 1.13+ a while back
1.13 is going to be fun \o/
leaden ocean
hypixel have been after them for ages now, but mojang have no reason to add them
nice π
I know sponge are becoming a lot more involved in forge as well in 1.13
teal sun
I don't think that's how shares work
rustic cobalt
sponge has been getting closer to forge all the time
coral lantern
idk but technically they own some of mc
rustic cobalt
just 1.13 is such a good showcase of which areas of the community actually talk and stuff lol
coral lantern
so theyd be informed about stuff if they had enough shares
(β―Β°β‘Β°οΌβ―οΈ΅ β»ββ»
leaden ocean
as in Gabi is actually get methods added to forge to made things easier and less bulky sponge-side
coral lantern
theyd be allowed to put forward proposals tho
seemings technically they own a bit of the company
rustic cobalt
That's not really all too new π Just, as I said, 1.13 is a good show as a lot of stuff is getting rewritten, and so it's a lot easier for everybody to suggest the stuff people want but nobody wants to break π
leaden ocean
the community can do that themselves without shares, but it's really only hypixel that have asked for transfer packets
(not to mention bungee is easier to use for cracked or blacklist-bypassing networks), so many don't have a reason to pester mojang about them
coral lantern
well + mojang dont give a f about multiplayer servers lol
wide phoenix
Thx for the plugins list guys for bungee, i took note.
leaden ocean
Mojang only care about the large EULA compliant networks*
coral lantern
thats why small servers with paypal prizes make so much $$$
cause there only open for like 2-3 months then they shut down
and mkae a entire new server
rustic cobalt
starts making notes
coral lantern
lol
the owner of noxiouspvp on the first day made some absurd amount of money
in the thousands
leaden ocean
people can do that all they want. It's mojang's fault from making minecraft servers so easy to run
This is why we don't have many cracked or massively-p2w modded servers ;)
teal sun
I've seen some clever bypasses for the EULA tbf
Not reccommending it of course
But this is pretty clever
leaden ocean
I mean... we were contacted and you really shouldn't even attempt to bypass it
coral lantern
well technically cant you bypass eula
by putting items ingame aswell and on the store?
therefore you can get the item either way
leaden ocean
that's not really how the new EULA works...
teal sun
I believe that's also not allowed
leaden ocean
you cannot sell ingame items even if players can get them ingame. That's why they hate ktis so badly
wide phoenix
I have another offtopic question ! Does bungeecord work with paperspigot ? What do you use ? paper ? spigot ? another one ?
coral lantern
your servers such as creative etc
can use paperspigot etc
your bungeecord must use a bungeecord version @wide phoenix
wide phoenix
i don't understand you last sentance ?
coral lantern
basically your actual bungeecord server must use a bungeecord version
eg waterfall, bungeecord etc
rustic cobalt
Yes, LP works on waterfall and paper
leaden ocean
the two of those use the bungee and bukkit APIs respectively
wide phoenix
Ok so 1 paperspigot 1.13.1 creative server, 1 paperspigot 1.13.1 survival server, connected by bungeecord (this ? https://ci.md-5.net/job/BungeeCord/) will work fine ?
teal sun
Yeah, but I'd reccommend waterfall
teal sun
Waterfall is to Bungee as Paper is to Spigot
rustic cobalt
(and ofc, paper over spigot)
teal sun
π
rustic cobalt
But, I might be a little bias π
leaden ocean
wide phoenix
ok so paper + waterfall is the way to go then
i was woried by this https://aquifermc.org/threads/stepping-down-from-waterfall.5674/
so i was like maybe bungee is fine with paper
rustic cobalt
I'm still maintaining waterfall, so shouldn't be any issues there
wide phoenix
ho ! cool ! there is some fine people on this discord π
teal sun
electroniccat is a god-tier developer
wide phoenix
ok so waterfall / paper it is then. And the plugins like ChatManager or AdvancedPortals works on waterfall too ?
teal sun
So waterfall isn't dying soon
Yah
Every plugin that works on bungee works on waterfall
rustic cobalt
Waterfall is a fork of bungee, we try our best to ensure that other plugins work fine
coral lantern
paper spigot is godly
rustic cobalt
You wanna see what Aikar has been working for on 1.13, we're getting async chunk loading back which spigot dropped as they didn't want to maintain that mess, but I think he's hinting at mojang to take the changes to vanilla lol
wide phoenix
ok all of this is cool
another question
for updates
how do you do this ?
what's the best way ?
coral lantern
herazul i wanna ask you a question
wide phoenix
you just change the jar ?
coral lantern
what type of server are you hosting?
wide phoenix
i am hosting a private server for me and friends
the last one was a bungee i hosted but i did it in a rush
without too much toughts
without permissions
with very few plugin
so yesterday i just went ahead and wyped the minecraft virtual machine i had on the server and started from scratch on a fresh VM
i want to do it right now π
i don't know if that answer your question ^^
coral lantern
it does
teal sun
Anyone have any ideas about this? Their support team hasn't responded so I made an issue
But thought someone here might have encountered this
leaden ocean
haven't used ptero in a while, so nope. Though it seems someone has asked you for more info π
gilded nova
I was having a similar issue and am currently reinstalling the panel
teal sun
ooh yay
gilded nova
I was running Ubuntu 16.04 and am currently having a go at reinstalling on Debian 9
wide phoenix
I have another off topic question : what do you use to start, stop, ... manage your server ?
teal sun
Yeah that'd be the next best option
wide phoenix
like software ? plugins ? i dont know
teal sun
If you don't want the bloat of a panel
gilded nova
Panels are really lightweight these days to be fair
teal sun
yeah
teal sun
π
wide phoenix
what is the best one to start with ?
teal sun
It takes about 10 minutes to set up if you're experienced with Linux
Pterodactyl
π
gilded nova
I'd say the best one is relative to your experience level
teal sun
Yeah
wide phoenix
ho
teal sun
However, pterodactyl is free
teal sun
And I personally prefer it over the paid ones anyway
leaden ocean
I use a custom wrapper/panel
works better for us than pterodactyl does as it ties in with everything else we use
gilded nova
Pterodactyl is hands down the best free panel no doubt but the installation process is a bit tricky for people who aren't comfortable with Linux
teal sun
@leaden ocean Is it open source? :D
Also your server seems really well thought out
I might have to check it out at some point
gilded nova
What type of project are you doing merjilin?
leaden ocean
the backend is, yes, but not the panel and the webhook module it uses for the panel - which it is pretty useless without
teal sun
ah
leaden ocean
look up 'ModularServerManager' and you'll find the backend jar file
leaden ocean
xD
gilded nova
I can't imagine too many different situations where Pterodactyl wouldn't work well unless you're on a massive operating scale
In my experience it's pretty much good for anything really
teal sun
Not that it wouldn't work well, I just imagine a fully custom panel would be more flexible
leaden ocean
we have quiet a few servers, but it also hooks into our staff panel, ticket system, mass-updater. It works better for us
we used to have 22 server before we ditched the unpopulated ones
leaden ocean
now down to 15
teal sun
what
kind spear
sup guys
pearl terrace
ey o/
coral lantern
04.09 15:07:46 [Server] ERROR Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Server Hub (priority 0) is not defined
04.09 15:07:46 [Server] ERROR at com.google.common.base.Preconditions.checkArgument(Preconditions.java:359)
04.09 15:07:46 [Server] ERROR at net.md_5.bungee.conf.Configuration.load(Configuration.java:147)
04.09 15:07:46 [Server] ERROR at io.github.waterfallmc.waterfall.conf.WaterfallConfiguration.load(WaterfallConfiguration.java:53)
04.09 15:07:46 [Server] ERROR at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:272)
04.09 15:07:46 [Server] ERROR at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:56)
04.09 15:07:46 [Server] ERROR at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15)
any idea what that means lol
oh wait i might know
1sec π
coral lantern
nah wasnt that lol
teal sun
oh
coral lantern
ill show you what it was xd
servers:
Lobby:
motd: IndecisiveRising
address: 176.31.138.154:26546
restricted: false
My "Lobby" was meant to be called Hub
wide phoenix
Okay i'm ine waterfall install now, and i'm wondering : is there a tutorial ?
or is it exactly the same process as bungee ?
wide phoenix
ok thx for the confirmation i'm on it
and i had another question
in this waterfall dl link
there are other jar than just waterfall.jar
cmd_something.jar
what is their purpose ?
coral lantern
my waterfall setup
yea i have no clue what cmd whatever is
im assuming thats for if you actually own the host eg running off your own pc
coral lantern
groups:
md_5:
- admin
@wide phoenix swap md_5 with whatever your username is eg
groups:
Dictator_Alideen:
- admin
cedar tinsel
anyone know a replacement for essentialsx?
it just spits out error and is buggy as hell
cedar tinsel
im on 1.13.1, and it says the plugin for 1.12 and lower
so its probably that
like i type in /jails, it crashes my server
coral lantern
thats definately the reason
using a lower version on a already currently unstable version for plugins aint the best idea xd
@cedar tinsel
coral lantern
1sec
i found something the ohterday
might help you in your endeavours
what is your exact essentialsx version @cedar tinsel
cedar tinsel
2.15.0.1
wide phoenix
Waterfall seems to be working thx for help alideen
coral lantern
np mate anytime
cedar tinsel
i'll be damned
i mean, for now i dont see anything buggy
thanks alideen
today's your day haha
make this guy a mod
coral lantern
lol np mate
spring sparrow
is it true that running a pixelmon server is illegal ?
leaden ocean
No?
If you're using the PixelmonMod from before it's C&D, then yes it might be. In which can you switch to reforged
wide phoenix
hi guys ! today i have a problem with the setup
coral lantern
whats the problem mate?
wide phoenix
evrything work fine when i launch jars with sudo
but when i use scripts or try to start without sudo
i have this
Downloading original jar...
Error downloading original jar
java.io.FileNotFoundException: cache/mojang_1.13.1.jar (No such file or directory)
at java.base/java.io.FileOutputStream.open0(Native Method)
at java.base/java.io.FileOutputStream.open(FileOutputStream.java:299)
at java.base/java.io.FileOutputStream.<init>(FileOutputStream.java:238)
at java.base/java.io.FileOutputStream.<init>(FileOutputStream.java:188)
at com.destroystokyo.paperclip.Paperclip.run(Paperclip.java:85)
at com.destroystokyo.paperclip.Main.main(Main.java:9)
(it's when i launch paperclip.jar)
i chmoded 755
coral lantern
whats paperclip?
coral lantern
so your running the server from your own pc?
wide phoenix
i'm on my ubuntu server yeah
the server is at home
i can kick it if it doesnt behave π
wide phoenix
like this doesnt work, i have the error : java -Xmx6G -jar /opt/MCServ/survival/paperclip-221.jar
and this : sudo java -Xmx6G -jar /opt/MCServ/survival/paperclip-221.jar
coral lantern
kk
wide phoenix
had a problem at work
so i just went ahaed and restarted the VM
problems just kept changing and getting worse
its very wierd
rustic cobalt
throwing sudo at a command is hardly going to help, try making sure that the folder is owned properly by the user running the command, and that you've actually cd'd into the correct directory, otherwise it's going to try to use your current folder
wide phoenix
what !
it was the problem
the jar use the current folder o_O
so it was trying to create logs and cache file where i was
i don't know why it does that
but then how can systemd script works ?
ho ok, maybe by setting a working direcotry
brb
leaden ocean
You'd place the script in the root directory of your server, where it will run the paperclip/server jar file
wide phoenix
it works by setting a working directory in the systemd script
i learned something today
leaden ocean
I'm honestly surprised you just didn't use a wrapper for your servers. How many are you going to be running?
wide phoenix
a wrapper like pterodactyl ?
if it's that i looked into it, but i can't use it now, we would have a problem with ssl certificate for now (we use https for something else, it's a weird setup but a very specific use-case).
I will try it next time we do a complete startover with our server, but it will be in at least a year
hybrid swallow
Hey someone thats experienced of luckperms what wanna help me?
how do i make a space between the group and my name in chat?
Please someone?
steel pelican
@hybrid swallow You can wrap the prefix in "" to use spaces. Like this:
Lp user (name) meta addprefix (weight) "&4Owner &c"
hybrid swallow
I mean for the group
hybrid loom
Also much more important: It depends on your chatplugin too
steel pelican
Chatplugin is the best way to do it though. Just add a space between the placeholders in the chat format.
hybrid swallow
there is already a space
format: '&8[&bLvl. {ISLAND_LEVEL}&8] {DISPLAYNAME}: {MESSAGE}'
should i download chatplugin?
hybrid loom
EssentialsXChat?
hybrid swallow
No just essentials
hybrid loom
Use EssentialsX and EssentialsXChat
hybrid swallow
hmm says i have the essentialsxchat jar file
but no folder for it
should i remove essentials?
hybrid loom
EssentialsX uses Essentials as main name
sweet turret
have anyone using CMI?
I want to know if its worth to buy.
Its look like better than essentials and i want to know if its better then essentials.
hybrid loom
Honestly: It's quite oversatturated with features....
coral lantern
@sweet turret Over in the M.O.S.S discord server (basically the essentials support discord) a guy who really likes CMI will give ya a lot of bias points about it lol
sweet turret
M.O.S.S??
hybrid loom
sweet turret
thanks lol
coral lantern
oh were allowed to post invites xd
hybrid loom
Only if it is really to related stuff
Or to discords, that provide more support for non LP-related stuff
coral lantern
kk
hybrid loom
tl;dr If it isn't for something to give better support, or to simply advertise, then it's not allowed
coral lantern
kk thankyou
hybrid loom
Nice little thing
prisma stone
Hello everyone, I'd like to give my Donors access to all the Formatting codes with /nick, except the &k formatting code. Is there any way to do that?
azure niche
Say hi to sally
simple minnow
Hi Sally!
kindred musk
anyone can help me we plotsquare? i want help with the permissions
wide phoenix
Hi guys ! I'm still in plugins, what do you use with 1.13 ? worldedit or fawe ?
at the time it seemed like fawe was faster, but i don't know how the two plugins evolved
rustic cobalt
FAWE is fast, but in general I wouldn't trust it, it's known for causing server crashes due to the way it handles stuff
coral lantern
really fawe is just a add on from world edit
i only use it cause it looks nicer lol
hybrid loom
@rustic cobalt Never had any issues myself with FAWE.
@coral lantern It's not directly a add-on...
Also it enchances WorldEdit, by making pretty much any action Async, wich reduces usage on the main thread of the Server and this reduces lags and high CPU-usage
leaden ocean
Fawe is a mess on forge. Not sure about bukkit
rustic cobalt
We have an issue tracker with reports where FAWE hasn't dealt with a TE properly and caused a crash due to the state inconsistency
wide phoenix
ok thx for the answers, i yoloed fawe, with frequent backup for the maps, will see what happen.
devout harbor
hey anyone use skyclaims(sponge) and can help me ?
kindred musk
nope sorry @devout harbor
cedar tinsel
When I start my spigot server, i get a message in the console saying "error this build is outdated, please follow instructions at spigotmc.org,", and i cant find the newest version
there is no newer version over at the spigotmc.org, my console is trippin
mortal gate
@cedar tinsel Try downloading LuckPerms from this site: https://luckperms.github.io/
Spigot isn't usually the most up to date
cedar tinsel
I am saying my Spigot isn't up to date, not LuckPerms
That's why I posted in offtopic instead of general
Oh, my luckperms isnt either
mortal gate
Oh my bad, yeah spigot is always updating even between major version changes. If you know how to use buildtools you can compile your own latest jar
If you don't i could compile it real quick for ya and pm the file to you
cedar tinsel
I'd appreciate that since I'm new to this
mortal gate
What server version are you running? 1.8.8, 1.12.2, 1.13.1 ect. ?
cedar tinsel
1.13.1
mortal gate
Should be about 5 min or so
cedar tinsel
Alright, no problems
potent prawn
Just use paper instead. No mucking around with build tools
leaden ocean
^^
potent prawn
Plus you get a ton of optimizations on top
kindred musk
someone can help me with plot permissions?
spring sparrow
You can download paper without build tools?
I used build tools and it gave me 1.12 lol
I used to use a Mirror
potent prawn
build tools currently defaults to 1.12 I think, you have to supply a flag to get the 1.13 versions
and yeah, all you do with paper is download the .jar and it does the rest
so much easier
mortal gate
Yeah for 1.13.1 paper just download the latest from here:
https://destroystokyo.com/ci/job/Paper-1.13/
and for 1.12.2 (since paper still actively supports it) from here:
https://destroystokyo.com/ci/job/Paper/
As for1.13.1 build tools in the bash shell you have to write
java -jar BuildTools.jar --rev 1.13.1
hopefully that's helpful to some
gilded nova
teal sun
Anyone any good at kubernetes? I'm banging my head against the wall here
coral lantern
no clue rip your head tho
teal sun
Declarative container orchestration. You know what docker is?
teal sun
Basically a tool to spin-up, spin-down, manage and interconnect containers
Not an alternative
It uses docker
drowsy quest
Should be still downscaleable
Anyways are you planning on using it for MC servers?
@teal sun
teal sun
Nope, I run quite a few discord bots, and random webapps
currently spread across a couple dockerhosts
drowsy quest
Ah ok
Pterodactyl might be worth a shot
They support a wide range of software out of the box and everything else can be added manually
drowsy quest
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
It has multiserver support and other stuff too
Like every single server thatβs not being able to be installed with apt-get is being run through Pterodactyl on my network
drowsy quest
I see no reason why it shouldn't work
I've yet to hit scalability issues with Ptero
prisma flare
Is there a way i can hide nicknames from showing on dynmap
valid sedge
I'm having a very unique issue now
my whitelist isn't reading the names on the whitelist .-.
prisma flare
what would i be looking for?
drowsy quest
chat format
prisma flare
not seeing anything in essentials
drowsy quest
It's there
prisma flare
i see chat format but i don't see anything regarding to what could cause this problem
prisma flare
Indeed
drowsy quest
Try customizing the chat format
And see if that changes anything
If not there is a chance you have another chat plugin
prisma flare
Nope only chat
drowsy quest
What's the filename of your Essentials jar?
prisma flare
EssentialsX-dev-19.69.jar
prisma flare
Alright
wide phoenix
Hi guys ! I'm trying to set a custom texture pack for dynmap, but it's not working
i tried a lot of things
for the moment i tried this in shader.txt
shaders:
- class: org.dynmap.hdmap.TexturePackHDShader
name: custom
texturepack: custom.zip
Default shader - used if shader not specified or invalid
- class: org.dynmap.hdmap.TexturePackHDShader
name: default
texturepack: custom.zip
custom.zip is the texturepack
i put it in /texturepacks
prisma flare
Do you by chance have it to where you have prefixes disabled on dynmap?
wide phoenix
ho i tough you were talking to me sorry
prisma flare
I kinda was
valid sedge
Anyone in here good with Vectors
polar thunder
hey guys, do you know any thing that may be deleting armorstands in every start server?
ive decorated my spawn with invisible armorstand and in every restart they disappear.. (i really dont know what is causing it)
mortal gate
maybe a entity culling resource? or entity cramming?
polar thunder
nah, i dont have both of it
the armorstands only disappear in one world, in the other no
im using the PersistanceRequired and its still disappearing :/
in my other world all work fine, idk why this is happening
coral lantern
@polar thunder any errors in console when restart your server
specifically in world generation?
polar thunder
let me check the logs
coral lantern
kk
polar thunder
no, doesnt have any errors
coral lantern
what plugins are you using?
coral lantern
so are the invisible armour stands like holograms?
polar thunder
the weird think is: in one world the armorstand doesnt disapper and in the other it disappear..
yes
its for decorations
coral lantern
thats probably your holographics display plugin then
or multiverse screwing around
polar thunder
the multiversecore config of both are SAME, SAME gamerules, same everythingg
coral lantern
otherwise im not entirely sure sorry
coral lantern
try disabling each plugin by 5's so disable 5 then restart
polar thunder
its the armorstands onl
coral lantern
if it still dissapears it means you re do
disable another 5 plugins then restart
and so on till they dont go away
then add back each plugin when it stopped disappearing and when it disappears again youve found your plugin
if you get what i mean
polar thunder
coral lantern
????
polar thunder
it disappeared again
polar thunder
nah, im still testing
coral lantern
kk
gilded nova
cedar tinsel
i watched it
coral lantern
whats it bout?
cedar tinsel
it's a great movie, it's scary of course, but it has a story behind it and the actors are good
it's about a nun that lives in an abby in Romania, she is possesed by a demon
cedar tinsel
i dont mind getting scared if its a good movie haha
coral lantern
xd
potent prawn
yeah i just laugh at "scary" movies
only movie i've really felt uncomfortable with was mother
coral lantern
whats mother about?
potent prawn
i can't even explain it lmao
coral lantern
lol
potent prawn
it's just really fucked up
cedar tinsel
anyone know how i can make a random spawn point for everyone in survival mode?
kindred musk
@cedar tinsel there a plugins you can do like /random or something and then they will tp random places
cedar tinsel
ok, i will find some then, thank you!
kindred musk
cedar tinsel
can essentialsspawn do that?
kindred musk
idk tbh
coral lantern
essentialsspawn is just for setting the spawn aint it?
kindred musk
any one know why when i set up plotsquared permissions players can destroy the road but when they try to repair it, it tells them they need permission to edit the road?
cedar tinsel
do i need a plugin for multiple worlds in one server? i dont want to link multiple servers just want 3 more worlds for my spawn, jail and shop
rustic cobalt
Yes, use multiverse or something
cedar tinsel
is multiverse good? i've heard people recommending something over that
coral lantern
its good
cedar tinsel
alright, thanks
rustic cobalt
there was another one, it basically boils down to MV or whatever the other one was; Both of them work, just they're both overcrammed with features which isn't always ideal
cedar tinsel
it would be awesome if there was a plugin that allows you to stream youtube music to server, havent found any
steel pelican
That would be fairly hard to do as there are a lot of limitations and problems with that.
hybrid loom
That's nearly impossible
heady mulch
imho , you would need to add that feature to minecraft itself before you can add it to the server API and THEN make a plugin that does it. so yea, nearly impossible
cedar tinsel
how about making a local folder and streaming music from that
not necessary from youtube
steel pelican
Still very hard to nearly impossible.
cedar tinsel
damn
mortal gate
@cedar tinsel i mean that is basically what mcjukebox and musicalbiomes do, i recommend checking them out to see if that's what you're looking for
polar thunder
hey guys, do you know any thing that may be deleting armorstands in every start server?
ive decorated my spawn with invisible armorstand and in every restart they r disappearing.. (i really dont know what is causing it)
in my other world all work fine, idk why this is happening only in the other world
drowsy quest
What server software?
coral lantern
do you guys know the ohter symbol for &
but looks like a dollar sign
used for chat colors etc
teal sun
Oh, the section symbol
coral lantern
yea
with like 2 lines through it and looks like a dollar sing
sign*
oh its literally called that
thankyou void
coral lantern
love versing some1 in bedwars
they call you for hacks
you beat em
then meet em in a game later
cedar tinsel
who is a good VPS provider?
teal sun
I personally love Hetzner
cedar tinsel
I think they're one of the cheaper ones, but that's what I am looking for, for 6.12 euros you get 2 virtual cores and 4 gb of ram
That's a good deal
cedar tinsel
There is also MVPS who offers the same but 7tb traffic for 7 euros
teal sun
Can't fault their performance
cedar tinsel
Can't wait to be 18, all these sites have PayPal and credit cards as form of payment, and I don't have any of that, not either a bank account so it's hard to find a way
teal sun
I used to have about 4 of those 4gb servers but I now just have a dedi with them
You can get Debit cards at 11
Are you from the UK?
cedar tinsel
noone is a football fan here I guess haha
so far I've been only paying with paysafecard through Skrill
teal sun
wow
Check your country's main bank's websites
I'm sure they have some kind of 'mini' current account
cedar tinsel
I guess there is way, I have to open a bank account but I don't get the card, just a number I can link to PayPal
teal sun
Nope π
coral lantern
xd
cedar tinsel
How long have you been around in Minecraft, Void?
teal sun
About 4 years
drowsy quest
Such a newbie π
cedar tinsel
What am I then, haha
cedar tinsel
i'm a super newb lol
drowsy quest
God, the old days
cedar tinsel
a quick question, i have a commandsigns plugin and i want to put a command on a sign, now the command is /wilderness (player) (world), if i put only /wilderness world it doesn't work, what do i put on the player to make it work?
drowsy quest
I still fondly remember when my friends and I were running a server
And we went all ham when enchanting came out
@cedar tinsel the command probably supports placeholders. So check their docs
cedar tinsel
do i just put {player}, is that how it works
cedar tinsel
here is even a better question
what are placeholders xD
god i'm such a noob
ok i see, just googled it
no worries, i know now
drowsy quest
What I am working on: β€ :3
https://github.com/fivunlm/cppstreams/tree/rewrite
cedar tinsel
as soon as I have seen it say C++, got a severe headache
cedar tinsel
It's damn hard isn't it
drowsy quest
Yup
In fact so hard that not a single human has mastered it so far
It's so vast that you could dedicate your lifetime to it and you'd still wouldn't have mastered it
cedar tinsel
Jesus
drowsy quest
But being able to code C++ takes faaaaaaaaaar less
cedar tinsel
I tried coding, was into Front End Development, not anymore since I've decided it's not for me
Especially languages like PHP, C, C#, C++ etc.
drowsy quest
Coding is not for everyone
cedar tinsel
True, I value the ones that code alot, but it's not for me
HTML and CSS were dead easy, but JavaScript had me scrambling a little
Java seems like a good language, too
Regarding my latest issue, they have placeholders
drowsy quest
π
cedar tinsel
is it possible to link my server's information such as uptime, tps etc. to be shown by a bot in discord?
leaden ocean
I've seen it be done before, but much like brain I don't know how they did it
cedar tinsel
theres a plugin i saw, discordmc
it even says it does more than what i asked for
its possible yeah, because discord has a built-in API
leaden ocean
Discordmc looks like a mess, DiscordSRV looks a lot tidier, and is also open source
scarlet shard
Looking for the best way to have a economy plugin across all servers on bungee
leaden ocean
Get any economy plugin that supports MySQL
cedar tinsel
EssentialsX is good
if i make an alias for a command in commands.yml, will that alias command show in /help?
gilded nova
does anyone know the command to make that sphere in worldedit
without it being filled.
heady mulch
//hsphere
gilded nova
sike I got it
sage sequoia
Hey guys, does anyone know where could I find these "fonts" for minecraft server MOTD?
i.e this is : "&b&l&m-----------[&r&6&l Spigot &b&l&m]-----------"
(note. im using https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/motd-1-8-1-12.8390/)
potent prawn
Fonts are supplied via a resource pack, you cant change it within the motd
hybrid loom
@potent prawn There is a way tho
I saw some motd that uses some kind of unicode-symbols/font to show something like a medival-like font
kindred musk
anyone can help me with plotsquared permissions?
hybrid loom
Jesus.... When I saw that, I couldn't hold my laugh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghAAnYooXbY
Some of his other videos are fun too π
I love his CoD Modern Warfare 4 trailer video π
drowsy quest
@kindred musk just ask what exactly you need help with. If youβd asked straight away, I could have possibly answered rn. Or someone even earlier
mystic saddle
Hi π
twin warren
o/
coral lantern
\o
steel pelican
\o/
coral lantern
/o\
mystic saddle
Never seen the GitHub issue resolution as a badge before, 12 hours is insane o.o
teal sun
π
cedar tinsel
anyone know the name of the plugin that makes trees fall when bottom block is destroyed?
teal sun
@cedar tinsel Treecapitator
cedar tinsel
Oh, thank you
drowsy quest
Or Timber
mystic saddle
Heyy Voidβ€ β€ β€
mystic saddle
You probably deserved it tbh :P
sage sequoia
Does anyone know how to create a /rules command in which would be for example 3 pages of things ? (i know for the rules i would have to create rules.txt and then type whatever i need in it, the thing is do i have to create for "rules2.txt" second txt file or can i somehow make it inside the first "rules.txt")
teal sun
Nope, it was a clerical error in my favor π
@sage sequoia I'm sure there's probably a plugin that does that but as far as I'm aware essentials doesn't
sage sequoia
so without a need of other plugin, i just have to take the route of multiple .txt files right
drowsy quest
Nucleus does XD
teal sun
@sage sequoia Nope, essentials won't necessarily read those extra files
sage sequoia
i mean, at the end of the rules.txt would be type /rules 2 for the next page or something
or does essentials read ONLY specific "rules.txt" ?
teal sun
I'm pretty sure it only reads that one file
sage sequoia
oh okay, thanks
sage sequoia
Its alright, still thanks a bunch
kindred musk
The problem i have is that i gave all the permissions for plotsquared and the build permissions from essentials but now the ycan even destroy the road between the plots and when they try to rerbuild it they have no permissions
@drowsy quest
outer vesselBOT
Hey Flex! Please don't tag staff members.
drowsy quest
1.13?
Anyways, use verbose to figure out the missing permission nodes
@kindred musk
kindred musk
okej did that but nvm i'll wait for update of the plugin, maybe is will be fixed
rustic cobalt
that sounds like you've got another plugin which is breaking stuff
kindred musk
idk here is what i use
rustic cobalt
I'm nog going to play guessing games of which plugin might be the cause, try reproducing with minimal plugins
coral lantern
@kindred musk its probably the plots plugin itself the rest shouldnt interfere
kindred musk
okej i'll have to wait till new update, thanks anyways!
hollow spoke
Is EssentialsXAntiBuild a good thing to pick for having my Guest group not being able to build?
rustic cobalt
yes, pretty much 99% garaunteed to be that plugin
cedar tinsel
i had issues with it aswell
rustic cobalt
more a case of it just not being configured properly on servers, need to give whatever perms it used
(but, most people don't use its features anyways, so easier to just scrap it than to tell people to go find the perms to configure it)
sage sequoia
can i somehow put gamemode 1 only for myself at all times? like whenever i join my server i automatically get gamemode 1
now i have to manually change it from 0 to 1 everytime i join
coral lantern
by default unless you set it for everyone else aswell you join in gamemode 0
@sage sequoia
sage sequoia
yes, the question is if i can set it only for myself or for example for the "admin group" created in lp to join with gamemode 1
i use essentialsX and luckperms
coral lantern
no you cant
sage sequoia
oh so everyone who owns a server just has to change the gamemode instantly whenever he joins?
coral lantern
ye
teal sun
I think by default you log on as you logged off
If you're in gmc when you log off you should be on it when you log back in
edgy venture
are you using multiverse?
sage sequoia
that aswell
teal sun
Have you got force gamemode on in server.properties @sage sequoia?
sage sequoia
its set on true
yes
if this can help
dont mind the jar files, i like to have them there
potent prawn
where else would they go :P
sage sequoia
does anyone know how to create /help file for "default" group or "everyone other with less permissions" so they will se specific commands which i would write?
cedar tinsel
That's done automatically, default group won't see commands you add to the admin rank
teal sun
@sage sequoia a) if you remove them, the plugin will not work, b) set that option to false for the behaviour you want
And yeah with EssentialsX it's done auto
sage sequoia
oh okay thanks
second thing, with "https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/nametagedit.3836/" do i need to have some name tag plugin first ? or is this also as a nametag + nametag edit because i tried it and it doesnt change my name (i have the permissions)
(it doesnt show my name in the firstplace)
cedar tinsel
do you want to display your rank with that plugin?
because if you do, your friends are placeholders
sage sequoia
i want to have [Owner] behind the name for example
cedar tinsel
and usually luckperms rank names are lowercase, so make sure you type it lowercase into the other plugin's config
so you have to create a lp group, /lp creategroup owner, then add yourself there /lp user yourname parent set owner, next you have to edit the nametagedit plugin's config and make sure you type owner lowercase
you can send me the config and i'll edit it the proper way @sage sequoia
sage sequoia
ill check it out
hollow spoke
anyone using factions?
cedar tinsel
anyone know how I can make my custom /list with placeholders?
cedar tinsel
or how do i link my lp group to another plugin?
polar thunder
guys please, someone can help me? ive problems with low tps
im willing to pay for it https://sparkprofiler.github.io/?FRdB3hN3Wa | https://www.spigotmc.org/go/timings?url=mifoxogoma
rustic cobalt
that rust build plugin appears to be hurting quite a bit, as does players moving around
heady mulch
"slowly" maintained may be better way to put it.
hollow spoke
oh π
heady mulch
It's been that way since the fall of craftbukkit. lol
hollow spoke
so there isn't a good alternative?
heady mulch
not that I've found. but since I'm using it with 1.13.1 without issues , I haven't really looked.
hollow spoke
oh alright
let's give it a try then
using the latest build or just the stable one?
heady mulch
I use the latest dev builds.
MV portals complains about WorldeditAPI , but it still works. for me at least.
fyi , the server I'm using it with supports about 20 users. nothing crazy, but they like lots of worlds. I've got about 8 atm.
rustic cobalt
It's an old plugin around an API which doesn't really change
it's not like the plugin is chasing bukkits API, the stuff they touch in the API hasn't changed in years
cyan sierra
cedar tinsel
Cloning into 'Spigot-API'...
done.
Resetting Spigot-API to Bukkit...
fatal: No such remote: upstream
HEAD is now at 3e2858f6 SPIGOT-4352: MoistureChangeEvent
Applying patches to Spigot-API...
fatal: Resolve operation not in progress, we are not resuming.
why does this happen everytime i try to run buildtools with Git bash