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neon panther
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Sorry, guys I was gone for a couple because I was throwing up

drowsy quest
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@rustic cobalt yup XD

austere lily
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ovh gives me cancer sometimes i swear

drowsy quest
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Why?

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Keeping in mind it's one of the best hosters, that makes the others look even worse xD

outer vesselBOT
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Hey KrauseFx! Please don't tag staff members.

gilded nova
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Mentions stay even if deleted

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Fyi

potent prawn
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Their message was deleted by staff because they were advertising, tried using @ everyone too

gilded nova
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Oooohhh

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My bad, thought the boy deleted

potent prawn
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Nah, though some do try that as well lol.

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I'm not sure why the bot reacts to @ everyone since it doesn't actually ping anyone

gilded nova
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@everyone

outer vesselBOT
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Hey Blayyke! Please don't tag staff members.

gilded nova
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Oh yeah that's weird

potent prawn
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you're brave πŸ˜†

steel pelican
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Turbo, Clippy would react because it's still technically pinging staff members as they are included as "everyone"

potent prawn
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how... unlucky

steel pelican
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Lol

wooden saffron
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I know this isn't the correct place to ask, although I thought one of you may know the answer to my question.
How would I go about getting s players Island Ranking using the AskyBlock pligin. So, you may know of the Island Top menu in ASkyBlock, the top ten islands are listed there. I'd like to know how to get the rank position of every island.

hybrid loom
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afaik is there a placeholder from PlaceholderAPI that does that.
But you Need To look it up.

potent prawn
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Poor @outer vessel

hybrid loom
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The comment πŸ˜‚

gilded nova
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Hey @twin warren just found MineResetLite in your CI. I just found an old server with 1.7.9 on CraftBukkit. I used a plugin also called MineResetLite. Wondering if it was yours :D
[MineResetLite] Loading mine from file 'mine01.mine.yml'...

outer vesselBOT
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Hey Rasre! Please don't tag staff members.

twin warren
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no the version on my jenkins is just a fork

gilded nova
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Ah okay. Would be nice if we met before πŸ˜„

meager plume
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😍 πŸ‡± πŸ‡Ί πŸ‡¨ πŸ‡° πŸ‡΅ πŸ‡ͺ πŸ‡· πŸ‡² πŸ‡Έ 😍

potent prawn
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hey

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thief

meager plume
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sorry mate

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that made me smile heh

potent prawn
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πŸ˜†

leaden ocean
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@willow lodge what version of forge are you on?

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If it's 1.10, could easily be done with crafttweaker. If not, check if the trade-o-mat is on the server and set that up

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VirtualChest may also be able to do that. I recall an example where wheat can be traded for bread

willow lodge
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spongeforge-1.12.2-2655-7.1.0-BETA-3065

leaden ocean
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So scripts won't work since they have to be client side now, so I'd go with VirtualChest

willow lodge
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thats why I couldn't get a script to work

willow lodge
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why does one plugin in sponge see the correct group and another only see global groups

steel pelican
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Depends how it's set up and on the plugins i guess.

willow lodge
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when I set groups I do /lp user <player_name> group add <group> <server>

steel pelican
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Make sure the LuckPerms configs has the servername in the config and that the servers can see the groups with /lp listgroups

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Try it with a permission, global and server only as well.

willow lodge
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I see all the groups when I run /lp listgroups

steel pelican
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Okay, does global and server only perms work correctly?

willow lodge
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yes all perms work, just can't get rankup see the correct group

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I just would like a rankup plugin to work on API 7.1.0

steel pelican
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I'm not too sure about which one is good as I don't use Sponge.

willow lodge
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I normally run a bukkit server but wanted to add a forge server to my network

leaden ocean
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@willow lodge do you need MySQL support or are you okay with local storage?

silver violet
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who's good at making plugins here dm me

fleet cape
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Hello! Someone has ever used FirstJoinCommands? I'm looking for an alternative, because plugin is abandoned and in 1.12.2 it's not working...

leaden ocean
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It doesn't actually do 'first join' commands however. From what I can gather, that'll be added in the future

sage knoll
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So I set every group's spawn with EssentialsXSpawn to a specific building but they just end up spawning in the natural spawn when they warp from another world or when they enter the server for the first time.
How do I force everyone to spawn there on their first join or when they warp from another world (multiverse)?

feral linden
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Are the spawnpoint and worldspawn the same? And do a setspawn there too just in case. If all 3 are there it should be ok

sage knoll
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Seems to be working for multiverse now, but I haven't tested for new players yet. Thanks.

willow lodge
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@leaden ocean I ok with mySQL, it's already running mySQL

outer vesselBOT
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Hey Ironic_8b49! Please don't tag staff members.

leaden ocean
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Ah, there is an alternative for local storage but not MySQL :/

feral linden
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Anyone want to be a dev for my server and help me set it up? I cant seem to get much set up. Ping me if yes

sage knoll
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What plugin would you guys recommend to allow members to claim land and share it with others? This is so that they can protect their house/ create cities.
Also something that awards blocks to claim over time, so that they can't claim the entire world whenever they want

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There's nothing stopping players from claiming land with Grief Prevention in WorldGuard regions is there?
EDIT: Yes there is, it will tell the player they are not allowed to build so they cannot claim

rustic cobalt
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pretty sure that GP uses WG internally, i'd imagine it's smart enough to allow that

sage knoll
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Thanks, I'll check it out

azure bone
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@minor socket why is it better? Can you elaborate

minor socket
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Hammm

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For my server it's better

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I used both plugins

azure bone
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That's fair. I use GP right now, what features did you need that weren't in GP?

minor socket
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First time i added dice furnitures everyone was able to destroy furnitures even in worldguard region

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After that i added this plugin

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My players love claiming with fences

swift forge
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I am having an issue with MySQL and lp. It says connection refused when the server starts, but I can use a mysql client with the same settings to access the database.

gilded nova
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@swift forge Make sure you have setup the right details on the database settings.

swift forge
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I did

gilded nova
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Just double check to make sure.

swift forge
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10 times

gilded nova
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What ip did you use for your client?

swift forge
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I been checking them for the last 2 hours

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ip for the server or the client

gilded nova
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client

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Is the sql hosted on the same system?

swift forge
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no

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its remote

gilded nova
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What do you use for port?

swift forge
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3306

gilded nova
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address: hostip:3306

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did you do that?

swift forge
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i did that awhile ago

gilded nova
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storage-method: MySQL

swift forge
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yep

gilded nova
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With caps?

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Without caps will not work

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Im asking, im not saying ur stupid

swift forge
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nvm...

gilded nova
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Did you created a database on mysql panel?

swift forge
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mysql pannel?

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whats that

gilded nova
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phpmyadmin

swift forge
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yes

gilded nova
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did you created a database

swift forge
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phpmyadmin

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yes

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and user

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with % host

gilded nova
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and password?

swift forge
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yep

gilded nova
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I think i know whats wrong

swift forge
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pls do tell

gilded nova
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your sql bind-address is wrong

swift forge
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how do i fix?

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on the server? or client

gilded nova
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Is it ubuntu?

swift forge
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server or cilent

gilded nova
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server

swift forge
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Debian

gilded nova
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debian

swift forge
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yep

gilded nova
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Thats dumb

swift forge
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?

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I dont like ubuntu

gilded nova
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Ubuntu is simple

swift forge
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I dont have access to that

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i use a VPS

gilded nova
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Debian blocks other connections.

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Idk if i can fix that

swift forge
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...

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It worked awhile back

gilded nova
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Okay

swift forge
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Nothing changed

gilded nova
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i can take a look but i need your details

swift forge
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ok

gilded nova
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in dm.

swift forge
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ill DM u the config.yml

gilded nova
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oki

swift forge
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Accept friend so we can DM

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@gilded nova

gilded nova
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k

sage knoll
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Is it possible to promote people with signs? I want to promote Guest users to normal members when they finish reading the rules

steel pelican
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You'd need a separate plugin for that. Something like commandsigns.

bleak notch
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@sage knoll why not get a plugin that run a command after accepting the rules

sage knoll
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With the whole permissions thing I'm afraid it'll clash with luckperms or something

sage knoll
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Thanks

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It worked perfectly! Thank you very much dude πŸ˜ƒ

flint ingot
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Too true, I think they are just asking to much from a poorly writen launcher

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what did twitch pay for it 1.5 billion or somthing?

pure bobcat
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Audience draw...probably plenty of Curse users that didn't even use Twitch

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Don't forget that minecraft is only a part of Curse usage

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Now ALL Curse users know about Twitch...and are forced to at least have a Twitch account

flint ingot
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i've found it buggy on other games too KSP for example πŸ˜ƒ

pure bobcat
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Never used Twitch, or it's launcher...never will lol

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I had to get a new account recently and I'm like "Twitch? I need a Twitch account now? Oh FFS!"

flint ingot
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lol ikr

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so what do u use multimc or at launcher ?

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or oldschool ftb

pure bobcat
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I have 2 setups for our modpack, a MultiMC instance using PackUpdate, and another that uses the Vanilla JAR Launcher with PackUpdate and a custom executable to tie it together.

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I tried going with my own Solder setup, found I'm not the only one that can't stand the Technic launcher, and even though MultiMC supports grabbing it...might as well just do it with PackUpdate.

flint ingot
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true, perhaps curse needs pushing off its rock, creating a new multi platform launcher that is just a launcher, that can pull packs from a simple to search website

pure bobcat
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There's one in the works I looked at awhile ago...allows for basically doing what I do, but in a user-friendly manner with interface.

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I can't recall the name though

flint ingot
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oh i'll keep a eye out for that πŸ˜ƒ

pure bobcat
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Trying to find it again

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Hearth Launcher

flint ingot
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see nice and simple that is what is needed πŸ˜ƒ no place for google to advertise πŸ˜›

pure bobcat
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If you search for it, they have a site with early builds

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Hopefully it actually comes full release at some point...

leaden ocean
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We just did what many others have done and made our own launcher for the packs we use

placid pebble
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MultiMC supports Curse packs now, though someone on my server said it didn't extract Curse pack mods/ overrides properly

kind spear
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,

rustic cobalt
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@mint inlet The system requires a user online in order to send messages, in order to counteract that, bungee stores these messages in a queue, which if nobody joins there is no memory limit on (and stuff like CMI loooves sending this stuff out), but also provides no way to actually send data to a server with no players, better than nothing, and I can see it's merits, especially when your plugin users are generally running on a shared host lucky to provide a mysql DB with some of them these days with no real way for a proper messaging system (and lets face it, most people struggle setting up bungee itself, to add a socket server on top of that just sounds like a support headache)

mint inlet
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πŸ˜‚

twin warren
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the whole system bungee uses for authentication (or lack of) and ip forwarding just sucks

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it would make so much more sense to just override the vanilla networking stuff and implement a decent system w/ auth between the proxy and backend instances

rustic cobalt
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mhm, would need a fallback for non spigot/supported stuff, but I don't understand why they didn't

twin warren
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the number of people running non firewalled spigot instances is seriously worrying as well

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that wouldn't be an issue if the system was designed properly

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just crawl through some shared host subnets and I bet you'd find plenty of instances running which return the "ip forwarding should be enabled in the proxy config too" error on connect

drowsy quest
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If at all that.

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Way too many people just don’t even use bungee mode

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@jaunty arrow ask here please

jaunty arrow
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sorry

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Anyone wants to help me with my new server? need help with plugins, mostly LP, will give Vip as an example once the server is done

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Its a pixelmon server

drowsy quest
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The permission stuff is something you should be able to do yourself

jaunty arrow
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I am not able, got my own reasons why its hard for me πŸ˜›

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been trying 2 days, but its so damn hard

drowsy quest
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Yup

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Not everyone should be running a server

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It’s hard

jaunty arrow
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I meant , i have alearning difficulty, so thats why its hard lol

jaunty arrow
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Anyone know how to give people permission to use items in spawn while spawn is protected?

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like enderchests etc

fossil iris
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Try worldguard and it's flags

jaunty arrow
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Hope universe guard works the same cause im using sponge

fossil iris
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oh, In that case I can't help

hasty stone
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[1:02 PM] BrainStone: Not everyone should be running a server
say it again for the people at the back

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Not everyone has the time, or interest, or dedication to overcome all the small, big or recurring issues

potent prawn
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but my cat really wants to run a server pls help

jaunty arrow
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something wrong here? doesnt apply to the game even if i save that

jaunty arrow
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!play reggae

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wrong chat

gilded nova
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anyone know a plugin that can sync commands between bungee servers? so if someone does a command, then every server in the network will do something, or like Player1 does /giveallplayers then every server's console will do /give @a apple or something, thats just an example

potent prawn
gilded nova
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Thanks :) just what im looking for

fossil iris
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Heyo,
Luck a quick question about the arg-based-permission implementation
How does it work?
Is it essentially creates nodes on the fly based on the input command and just checks against those in the backing?

twin warren
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Correct

fossil iris
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thanks, I needed something similar for my plugin

jaunty arrow
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Could it be caused by lucky perms, that i cant ffight trainers in pixelmon?

twin warren
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nop

jaunty arrow
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Second question, how to set that way when a player joins hes automatically placed to group member, and not default?

gilded sphinx
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go into the config, and scroll all the way down to rule three

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you just have to adjust the rule to the group you need

jaunty arrow
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has-true="<group.member>"

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like this?

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and wth i did, i typed

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/lp group default set member dunno what i did

jaunty arrow
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Please someone

steel pelican
gilded nova
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Lol

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Luck

jaunty arrow
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So i just made everything ready for the server, but got one problem, still cant fight NPC's in pixelmon

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So the problem is, the npc's spawn with 0 pokemons, anyone know a fix?

outer vesselBOT
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Hey CelexGames! Please don't tag staff members.

gilded nova
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Hey guys im reselling a Dedicated Server hosted in France, 32 gb ram 3x120gb SSD. Pm me if you are interested.

gilded sphinx
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I have a question, with ./ignore for essentialsx it does nothing, and i disabled bungeechat ignore since i don't want players ignoring staff since bungeechat doesn't have a proper perm to exempt staff.(edited)
but essentialsx does.. what permission should i give, and or suggestions?

rustic cobalt
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[1:10 AM] electronicboy: "does nothing" - as in, no command output at all, or just doesn't ignore them?

gilded sphinx
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oh

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My bad, sorry. I meant just doesn't ignore them

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i thought you were talking to the other person

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the command outputs saying, you have ignored [player] from now on.

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Would essentialsxchat be required?

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rip electronicboy

rustic cobalt
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Well, it depends entirely upon your chat plugin to respect essentials ignoring stuff

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EssX chat isn't needed for that, that just provides basic chat formatting and stuff

gilded sphinx
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Ah, okie.

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I'm guessing bungeechat/bungeecord doesn't respect essentialsx rn

potent prawn
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well it can't, bungeecord plugins can't connect with spigot plugins without some sort of messaging system

gilded sphinx
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Hmph. so you mean that essentialsxchat perms are useless since bungeechat overrides them

steel pelican
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EssentialsXChat handles the Chat formatts and stuff like that, it doesn't handle the /ignore perms or anything.

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You either use BungeeChat or EssentialsX chat.

gilded sphinx
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Okie

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thank you for the help

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Since if i get rid of bungeechat, is there any alternatives beside bungeechat?

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if anyone knows any

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would venturechat be a nice alternative?

bleak rose
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I use venturechat

potent prawn
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VentureChat should be fine, though I'm not experienced with it. I use DeluxeChat and recently decided to switch to ChatControlPro. Depends what features you're after really.

bleak rose
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Venturechat works fine for me formatting and all

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I would use chatcontrolpro BUT I HATE how they handle their chat channel system

potent prawn
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how so?

bleak rose
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you dont FOCUS a channel per say from what I could see

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any chat message you send goes to all channels you have access to

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maybe I am missing something... idk

potent prawn
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I think I recall reading something about that

bleak rose
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Herochat handles channels perfectly

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and I would use it BUT it has issues with factions

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annoyingly

gilded sphinx
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I just need something to let essentialsx perms be nice with, so it doesnt override/ignore

steel pelican
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I use DeluxeChat and ChatControlPro and don't have any issues with either of them

gilded sphinx
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ill go with venturechat

broken vigil
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does anyone know of a chest locking mod that allows people to opt out of auto-locking

analog rapids
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and devs here?

drowsy quest
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Yup

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@analog rapids but for future reference, just ask

analog rapids
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What i did ask πŸ˜› xD

potent prawn
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you have a problem, explain it

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that's what he means

analog rapids
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Oh, sorry i fixed it

drowsy quest
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Lol

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But yeah. If you have a problem just state it straight away

digital lance
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Herochat has local chat, which is very cool

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@broken vigil Check out StickyLocks. I wrote it.

broken vigil
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already looked at it, im looking for something more like lwc's auto locking of chests, but where people can opt out of it without an admin having to change the config files

digital lance
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OK.

broken vigil
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thanks anyways

digital lance
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Well, I have to fix StickyLocks for 1.13 anyway, so I'll look into adding that.

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I have other features to add, too

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from other admins

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Feel free to bung it on the Github issues, if you want to make sure I rememebr it

broken vigil
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yeah thats the impass im at now, do i want to just fork lwc or keep looking for a different option thats updated a bit more often than lwc

analog rapids
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        Score PlayerAmount = o.getScore(ChatColor.GRAY + "" +  Bukkit.getServer().getOnlinePlayers().length);```
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says it has more than 16 lines

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wat is this

rustic cobalt
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Well, your text is 16 characters

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Each ChatColor is 2 characters

analog rapids
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How do i do it without the error?

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// a better way @rustic cobalt

rustic cobalt
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you would need to take advantage of the team prefix/suffix in order to get around that

analog rapids
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xD

calm gate
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Hey

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So

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MySQL doesnt connect

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anyone knows a good mysql host

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cheap or free

drowsy quest
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localhost xD

steel pelican
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^ xD

calm gate
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XD

steel pelican
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Being serious though, it actually is the cheapest.

drowsy quest
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And if done right, the best too

steel pelican
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I use Localhost for luckperms.

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Just simple and easy to use.

stiff chasm
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@placid pebble thanks for your idead of putting the user in advanturer mode, have you a idea how i can solve this issue?

placid pebble
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Set the default gamemode for your world to adventure mode

stiff chasm
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and every other player need to change it manualy then?

drowsy quest
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Players who have been on the server will keep their mode

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And I think you’re promoting them somehow

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If it’s a plugin doing that, there’s a good chance it allows to execute arbitrary commands too

stiff chasm
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so promoting then via LP and giving them a new gamemode would be the workflow then

drowsy quest
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Yes

stiff chasm
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is the gamemode global or world specific?

drowsy quest
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Should be global

calm gate
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Hey

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I've tried everything for my database to work

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But I cant get it working

steel pelican
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Are you getting any errors in console?

calm gate
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Yeah

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Way too much

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xd

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this is the most important part @steel pelican

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i think

gilded sphinx
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Anyone good with venturechat? I'm having trouble with prefix formatting

rustic cobalt
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@calm gate Actual issue is generally reported much before that

bleak rose
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I don't want clippy to watch me...

wooden saffron
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Hello, never really worked with custom .yml files before. I know, I know, dynamic is better and I'll agree. I have not coded in a very long time, and I'm getting back into it. If someone could provide assistance on my issue, that'd be great. I've tried to figure this out for many hours and days now. Thanks! πŸ˜ƒ

So, I basically made a little system to create a custom .yml file every time a player joins with some default values. Here's what I'm using to create the custom configs: https://hastebin.com/wibikegawa.cpp
It does everything perfectly fine. But, when attempt to write to it, it creates a blank file. Code I'm using to write: https://hastebin.com/ovuxuzuzim.cpp

Thanks! πŸ˜ƒ
Some debugging to the console I did: https://hastebin.com/aveyegunen.vbs

rustic cobalt
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extending YamlConfiguration is the general way to do it

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I prefer gson however, especially as I can just create data objects and deal with serialization generally automatically

cedar hedge
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Do you know if BungeeCord supports IPv6? Is there any point in having a AAAA dns record?

digital lance
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Last I checked, the Minecraft client didn't look at AAAA records. It can do IPv6 numerically, but will only resolve A records.

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I'm going to Google this again, though, because IPv6 is the future, etc.

cedar hedge
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hmm.. ok. let me know if you find anything! πŸ˜ƒ

drowsy quest
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AFAIK that’s true

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Minecraft can use IPv6 addresses. But only uses IPv4 domain recorde

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However SRV records work too

cedar hedge
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I just wonder why my bungee doesnt seem to be listening on ipv6

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pbz@uber:~$ nc -zv -6 mc.tallcraft.com 25565
nc: connect to mc.tallcraft.com port 25565 (tcp) failed: Connection refused
pbz@uber:~$ nc -zv -4 mc.tallcraft.com 25565
Connection to mc.tallcraft.com 25565 port [tcp/*] succeeded!
gilded sphinx
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brain, on bungeechat <.< sorry about this, but on plotsquared bungeechat essentially ignores plot chat, is there any way around that?

hybrid loom
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Not really I guess, because BungeeCord and Spigot are completely seperate instances

gilded sphinx
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:/ welp

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I tried

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Thank you though

median widget
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How the hell do you get slimes to spawn

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I just made dark rooms in a slime chunk and nothing is spawning

hybrid loom
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They only spawn in swamp-biomes and afaik does it not matter, how dark the area is

median widget
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But I built it in a slime chunk

hybrid loom
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Probably not... 🀷

median widget
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I'm sure of it

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My friend built a slime farm in that chunk and it's the same seed

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And before that I sat for 10 min outside a swamp biome and slimes didn't spawn at all

hybrid loom
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Reason could be:

  • There are already other hostile mobs that reduce the spawn-chance
  • The difficulty is peacefull...
median widget
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it's on easy

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above peaceful difficulty only affects size

median widget
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SERIOUSLY i've made some dark rooms in the slime chunk and i've waited 24 blocks away for about 10 min and nothing's happening

viral notch
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they spawn on (and below) a certain Y coordinate

hybrid loom
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and like I mentioned earlier, does it not matter, what lightlevel the room has

minor socket
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Y: - 40

minor socket
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ICEANDDDD πŸ˜‚

calm gate
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Anyone here that knows a good MySQL host

drowsy quest
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Still having issues with your hoster?

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Contacting the support didn’t help?

rustic cobalt
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Beyond places like AWS which basically offer a platform as a service, and charge a bomb for that, you're not really going to find somewhere that offers just a mysql database, and most places providing them as part of another service are going to lock access down externally because databases can get large fast... If your hosting provider doesn't offer you a free database, look elsewhere, you need the database to be hosted in at least the same datacenter as your server, otherwise it's going to suck for stuff like economy plugins.

gilded sphinx
#

I agree

pure bobcat
#

πŸ€” Has server rack...can get Gigabit internet. Should offer SQL databases, make money?

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justdatabases.com nothinbutdbs.com....hmm

summer pine
#

nothingbutdbs.here

#

Good idea

#

Use that domain

drowsy quest
#

There are already quite a few free hosters

iron sphinx
#

so

hybrid loom
iron sphinx
hybrid loom
#

What version of PlaceholderAPI do you run?

iron sphinx
#

2.8.2

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outdated?

hybrid loom
#

Try newest one

#

2.9.1

#

afaik did Clip update the cloud and system...

iron sphinx
#

🀦 :

#

one sec

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🀦

#

yep that worked

#

tyvm

pure bobcat
#

Yeah I was joking previously there about the DB thing...on the back of several people looking for a DB, that chances are their host provides.

viral notch
#

@buoyant gate french is hard to "know" if you're not a native speaker

#

I'm from portugal (and so I speak portuguese), and for me it's easier to understand people talking in spanish compared to french

buoyant gate
#

I translated up to line 100 for now

#

100 lines = 1 day or 200 lines = 1 day or more

azure bone
#

lol did anyone ever figure out the slime spawning? they spawn at certain heights

#

just gotta build some well lit platforms for them to spawn on (at least 3 blocks of air space between each platform) the light level doesnt matter so light it well

drowsy quest
#

@azure bone there are like a billion of videos on YouTube on how slime spawning works

hybrid loom
#

And the MC-WIki of course

drowsy quest
#

That too

#

On YouTube you’ll also find thousand of slime farms

azure bone
#

also true, i couldnt help but chuckle when I saw the struggle

hybrid loom
#

That was a rhyme lol

pure quiver
#

Sup

twin warren
#

ey

pure quiver
#

It's hot af

#

80Β°f

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Only 9am

twin warren
#

71 here at 1pm

potent prawn
#

luck can we get a temperature conversion bot

twin warren
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

pure quiver
#

I'm excited, just got the last of my Amazon adventure purchases yesterday for my camping trip in the Smoky Mountains

twin warren
#

what sorta stuff did you buy

hybrid loom
#

Wish you lot of fun Clip

pure quiver
#

Tons of stuff. Since I'm taking my kids, first thing I got was a roof cargo bag so the SUV isn't packed full of stuff. Got a new tent, some battery powered fans, some chairs for the kids, new sleeping bags, some cooking utensils, a grate to cook on over the fire pit, etc

potent prawn
#

TIL clip is a father

pure quiver
#

My last tent was only a 2 person so I had to upgrade

hybrid loom
#

yes Clip is one @potent prawn πŸ˜„

potent prawn
#

I guess I need to stop assuming everyone on spigot is a teenager

pure quiver
#

My son is almost 3 and daughter just turned 1

hybrid loom
#

Didn't know that?

potent prawn
#

dang lots of challenging years ahead πŸ˜‚

pure quiver
#

Kind of crazy to take small kids in the wilderness like I am about to do

hybrid loom
#

Probably

pure quiver
potent prawn
#

just make sure a bear doesn't eat them you'll be fiiine

pure quiver
#

I'm taking my gun haha

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So those bears better not try anything stupid

potent prawn
#

what sort?

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(not that i know anything about guns)

pure quiver
#

9mm

potent prawn
#

cool

pure quiver
#

Probably won't do anything to a bear tho

potent prawn
#

loud noises

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yell at them

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tell them off

pure quiver
#

We should be fine without a weapon

#

Just have to make sure to keep food put up

#

I just wanted to do something different this year for vacation. Never camped in the mountains and I love camping

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Should be a fun experience

#

I'm just nervous about taking the kids really

#

My daughter doesn't even like the beach

potent prawn
#

best of luck and enjoy. i'm off to bed, 1am and gotta be up at 6 :/ πŸ‘‹ 😴

pure quiver
#

Still a few weeks to go but we will definitely enjoy when it comes time

gilded nova
#

@pure quiver can you add database to deluxetags?

pure quiver
#

Actually yes

#

I'm currently writing the plug in to support multiple storage types

#

Just be patient because I don't have all day to work on it so I'm doing a little bit here and there

gilded nova
#

Alright sounds cool

#

Is it gonna have mysql storage?

pure quiver
#

Using Aikars IDB

willow lodge
#

on my sponge/forge server I have this setting like this
server = "forge"
is the " " suppose to be there or not?

drowsy quest
#

Shouldn’t matter

#

But I’d say it’s best practice to do so

willow lodge
#

ok thanks. still can't figure out why my rankup plugin will not see the correct rank players are in

drowsy quest
#

Can’t tell you why. Sorry

willow lodge
#

had a thought that might fix it. if I use global groups on that server and all the perms were server specific they would not be able to use the perms on the other servers, right?

drowsy quest
#

Yes

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That’s the point of server specific perms

willow lodge
#

I think the rankup will see global groups just not server specific groups

#

just wanted to make sure, not sure why I set up server specific groups but 10 servers work great just this last one cause it's a sponge server I think

#

I'm using this on rule #2 <forge/group.warrior> I should change the group checks to <group.warrior>?

undone rose
#

I know this is not related to LuckPerms but does anyone have any suggestions on the best world split inventory plugin that won't cause crazy bugs?

hybrid loom
#

PerWorldInventory

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They just got a update recently

undone rose
#

So that's the best I could get?

hybrid loom
#

Probably

undone rose
#

Does it split money also?

hybrid loom
undone rose
#

thanks

mint inlet
#

Does it annoy you when they call it LuckyPerms?

rustic cobalt
#

IS REALLY LUCKY PERMS

drowsy quest
#

You have no idea how much it grinds my gears XD

rustic cobalt
#

BrainyStone

drowsy quest
#

And I don’t even know why it annoys me so much XD

rustic cobalt
#

gets B&

drowsy quest
#

Nope gets shotgun There’s a special place in hell for people like you

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XD

rustic cobalt
#

Tbh, We kinda have the same thing

#

PaperSpigot 😦

drowsy quest
#

You mean it’s only paper?

#

Or what exactly is the mislabeling?

rustic cobalt
#

Used to be called PaperSpigot around 1.8.8 times, was renamed to Paper sometime around 1.9

drowsy quest
#

Yeah. Though you can’t really fault people for that

potent prawn
#

Wait it's not called paperspigot anymore?

rustic cobalt
#

throws a brick at @potent prawn

outer vesselBOT
#

Hey electronicboy! Please don't tag staff members.

rustic cobalt
#

DIE CLIPPY, DIE

potent prawn
#

Hehehe

#

Serious though I didn't know

drowsy quest
#

XD

rustic cobalt
#

That feels like years worth of stress released in one sentence...

potent prawn
#

And yeah luckyperms makes me cringe

drowsy quest
#

I mean Paper used to be called PaperSpigot. But LuckPerms never was LuckyPerms

#

XD

potent prawn
#

Luck should add a bot listener that corrects everyone who says lucky perms

rustic cobalt
#

Yea, we now have a bot in #paper which tells people we're now called Paper πŸ˜„

drowsy quest
#

You meant PaperSpigot 😜

leaden ocean
#

Hello there, BrainStorm

rustic cobalt
#

😦

#

😭

drowsy quest
#

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO RANT ABOUT THAT

#

XD

leaden ocean
#

XD

rustic cobalt
#

Hmmm, BrainyStorm

potent prawn
#

Is clueless rn

drowsy quest
#

The thing that upsets me the most though is when people call me Brian or BrainStorm

#

UGHHHHH

rustic cobalt
#

:)

leaden ocean
#
potent prawn
#

Oh nvm I didn't notice the storm/stone thing

#

Wait what

#

Js plugins??

drowsy quest
#

Neat

potent prawn
#

Omg

#

I'm switching to sponge

drowsy quest
#

XD

rustic cobalt
leaden ocean
#

He made one for spigot as well

potent prawn
#

Did you guys see the js wrapper for Minecraft someone made?

drowsy quest
#

True words electronicboy

potent prawn
#

😭

#

I feel so attacked

leaden ocean
#

Actually I can't find the spigot one

rustic cobalt
#

There are several for spigot iirc

leaden ocean
#

But that isn't by luck :(

drowsy quest
#

I mean JS has its valid reasons to be used.
But for Christ’s sake stop using it for everything

#

The language is terrible

rustic cobalt
#

B U T J A V A S C R I P T

drowsy quest
#

If they at least enforced strong typing....

potent prawn
#

As a Web developer I'm kinda stuck with it

#

So I use it for everything. Because I can.

drowsy quest
#

I know. And it’s great for the web. But that’s it

potent prawn
#

More efficient for me to develop in a language I already know.

rustic cobalt
#

KOTLIN HYPE

drowsy quest
#

I hope that TypeScript gets native Browser support at one point

potent prawn
#

If it does, safari will be the last to implement it

drowsy quest
#

I mean that would get rid off the most severe coding issues with JS

rustic cobalt
#

I have doubts that would even happen, tbh

#

We're at the point where anything new needs to offer significant advantages that somebody large would want to pull them in

potent prawn
#

Yeah prob not

drowsy quest
#

It should happen though

#

I’m amazed at how alien the concept of type safety is to some people

#

More like terrified

potent prawn
#

waves

#

xD

rustic cobalt
#

That's the one thing that pisses me off working in languages like that

potent prawn
#

I really need to learn Java

rustic cobalt
#

The lack of typing just /really/ makes me feel sad

potent prawn
#

At least php is moving closer to that

rustic cobalt
#

#RipCompiletimeSafety ;-;

drowsy quest
#

And also the additional cost of making sure the variable you’re working with is the right type...

#

Essentially 20% of the code in popular JS frameworks is type safety code

#

Which is ridiculous

#

And all the unit testing that is essentially required because of that

#

In PHP you can at least use somewhat strong typing

rustic cobalt
#

I need to start playing with stuff like PHP again, Been too long since I last used it and it just feels like I've forgotten basically everything

drowsy quest
#

I’m still wondering which genius thought putting one of the most maintenance intensive languages out there on the server

#

And I mean it’s reflected in the quality of Node.JS libraries out there

rustic cobalt
#

I was tryna provide a justificiation for it

drowsy quest
#

90% are utter garbage or have severe bugs or security issues

rustic cobalt
#

Insanity is the only thing I could come up with

drowsy quest
#

Absolutely

rustic cobalt
#

Like, it's something I could see myself whipping something together that works for some reason

#

But I don't think it's really something I'd be inclined to spend a whole bunch of time on to create a usable application when there are languages which are less of a pain to work with

drowsy quest
#

Yeah. Doing it for the shits and giggles or as a proof of concept.

#

At least luck knows it’s garbage

#

XD

#

And in a small scale JS is actually quite ok

#

Like stringing few things together. Perfect for that

#

Anyways. My head decided it wants to simulate a jack hammer being on my head, I’m off for now

rustic cobalt
#

o/

twin warren
#

At least luck knows it’s garbage

#

lmao

#

i do indeed

#

also sad that nashorn doesn't support all ES6 stuff yet

#

so you have to use babel if you want that 😦

#

Actually I can't find the spigot one

#

is here

#

uses the same loading system as on sponge

drowsy quest
wanton yarrow
#

Hi, the negate permissions doesn't work for me

drowsy quest
#

@wanton yarrow what do you mean by "negate permissions"?

wanton yarrow
#

eg. -bungeecord.command.server

drowsy quest
#

You have to set the to false

#

So for example /lp group default permission set foo.bar false

wanton yarrow
#

oh, okay. Thanks

drowsy quest
#

Also to simplify editing permissions, I recommend you trying out the web editor: /lp editor

wanton yarrow
#

@drowsy quest Not work. I tried /lp group default permission set bungeecord.command.server false and /lp sync

But not work.

outer vesselBOT
#

Hey MedzsikR! Please don't tag staff members.

wanton yarrow
#

Okay, sry

drowsy quest
#

Do you have LP on the bungee?

wanton yarrow
#

Yes

#

But

#

The lobby is not connected the bungee and other luckperms server

drowsy quest
wanton yarrow
#

okay, thanks

frozen fractal
#

Ello

#

Got an issue as soon as I put liteloader in the server's mods folder

pure bobcat
#

πŸ‘» Boo

frozen fractal
#

πŸŽ‰

pure bobcat
#

That's weird...but to start with, I would use Forge 2705, not 2709

frozen fractal
#

Oh

#

Woops, downgrading now

#

Done

pure bobcat
#

SF versions for 2705, normally doesn't cause a problem...but recent events have shown not to be the case often lately

frozen fractal
#

Where is the issue? At malisis or LL?

drowsy quest
#

LL is clientside only!

frozen fractal
#

Oh OFC

drowsy quest
#

Of course it won’t work on the server

frozen fractal
#

You told me this and I was too busy with finding the download button 🀦

pure bobcat
#

Nice catch...I skimmed that

#

Regardless, for Sponge...stick to matching Forge versions. If a mod needs newer, wait...you're better off that way.

drowsy quest
#

Being a few versions above is usually fine

frozen fractal
#

No crash until now

#

takes about 5-10 minutes to fully start

drowsy quest
#

Especially if there aren’t too many changes

tired barn
#

If Luck had a paywall for LuckPerms, he'd be making bank

frozen fractal
#

Oh, nvm, need to change forge verison for server now too lol

pure bobcat
#

It's fine if you understand said changes...for most users, better off just sticking to it.

#

Been multiple instances of mods, including Sponge...breaking by doing so.

#

Just since 2611

gilded nova
#

Anyone know whether downloading mc pre3 is worth it for my server? Or should I just wait until 1.13 proprely comes out?

frozen fractal
#

Seemed to unsurpisingly have fixed Worldedit by indeed using worldedit.command.(specific command)

Though Inspector (Sponge plugin) doesn't work the same way sadly :(.

I tried
sponge.inspector.command.(specific command)
sponge.command.inspector.(specific command)
inspector.command.(specific command)
Not sure how I'd work this one out.

#

Also had to remove WECUI since it stopped me from being able to join the server somehow.
Seemed to be fixed after removal

pure bobcat
#

Plugins can set their own permission nodes, those aren't it...

frozen fractal
#

Seems like I somehow fixed that issue already

#

But now there's another :/

#

GriefPrevention seems to have been completely disabled as no commands even tell me I'm not allowed to use them.

But GP does show up when I type in /sponge plugins

#

Kind of accidentally used * while I should indeed not have. Any way to fix/undo this?

#

you probably know as you're a mod in their discord lmao

pure bobcat
#

Remove it from everyone using unset

#

All groups+users, cannot be used anywhere if using GP

#

/lp search * will show you who has it

frozen fractal
#

I tried, it kept telling me admin already has it when I test it by re-adding itr sadly

#

Ah nice

#

There's a * search

#

Never knew

#

The fuck

#

0 everywhere, but it tells me I have it already when I try re-adding it to test if it's gone

pure bobcat
#

Once removed, you need to do /gpreload or restart the server

#

Any further help with GP...ask in GP discord

frozen fractal
#

Not doing anything for me at all.

Did these three:
/lp group admin set griefprevention.admin
/lp group admin set griefprevention.user
/lp group milkdrinker set griefprevention.user

Trying /gpreload seems to not be a command for me at all anymore 😦

#

I'll ask there

gilded nova
#

someone?

#

i have a plugin called PlayerBalancer, and i have set that if the player execute "swjoin"

#

sends him to a random map

#

how can i make from spigot console

#

sudo player

#

to execute bungee command

#

i have it with deluxemenus

drowsy quest
#

Essentials provides a sudo command

gilded nova
#

yes

#

but

#

sudo from spigot

#

doesnt know about bungee commands

drowsy quest
#

If deluxemenus is on the Spigot it can't run Bungee Commands anyways

#

It's an entirely different server and server software

gilded nova
#

So its imposible?..

drowsy quest
#

I don't know for sure

#

You should try getting support from them

tiny slate
#

Anyway recommended rank up plugins that work well with luckperms? I want players to be able to buy luckperm ranks.

clever light
#

@hybrid loom Block? 🀣

outer vesselBOT
#

Hey AixMC! Please don't tag staff members.

clever light
#

Sorry clippy

silver violet
#

who use Deluxe Chat here?

hybrid loom
#

Maybe...

silver violet
#

im using dchat but my name in game is %player_name%

hybrid loom
#

Download the player-extension with /papi download player

#

And make sure to use the latest PlaceholderAPI version

#

(there was a change rexently)

open valve
#

i'll try my luck here, perhaps someone has come across this issue with GriefPrevention

/adminclaims and /townclaims
Is there a way to up the limit to these for admin only?
so we can mark out large protected areas.

potent prawn
#

Admin claims don't have a limit?

#

At least not on the version I am using.

open valve
#

Turbortailz, are, i realised i don't have administrative rights to use adminclaims lol - back to the docs lol

#

sorted it with the following lp group admin permission set griefprevention.flag.* true

drowsy quest
#

Don’t do that!!!!

#

These permissions are not meant to be assigned

#

And they will break GP

#

I’d recommend asking on their Discord for help

#

@open valve

open valve
#

thanks, i did try, but they don't seem to be around. Why is that a bad idea

#

admin claims would not work though, so...

drowsy quest
#

Setting any GP flag permissions

#

They exists for internal use only

#

The admin permissions are griefprevention.admin

#

Which is clearly stated on their wiki

#

And sometimes you gotta be patient

open valve
#

vc?

drowsy quest
#

What does β€œvc” mean?

open valve
#

voice call

drowsy quest
#

No

open valve
#

I ran lp group admin permission unset griefprevention.flag.*

#

and then added the other suggestion of yours

drowsy quest
#

Ok

open valve
#

thanks for the help

drowsy quest
#

You’re welcome

#

In case you haven’t, read their getting started wiki page

#

Should cover that

open valve
#

i did have a good read of it, thanks - just few things I am finding tricky

#

you seem quite knowledgeable, do you know of a way to detect portals? so we can auto block griefing on them when they are created?

drowsy quest
#

No. Sorry

open valve
#

no worries, take care

lofty spire
#

@outer vessel Is even worse now that I just realised, its watching us 😱

hybrid loom
#

mhm

tiny slate
#

Anyone with MythicMob experience? I can't get my custom mobs to spawn.
Geist:
MobType: CAVE_SPIDER
Chance: 0.25
Priority: 1
Action: add
Reason: natural
Conditions:

  • outside true
  • night true
fossil iris
#

It's more offtopic, but I'm wondering (regardless of it being a poor setup)
if one used regex permission .+ in sponge would that be somewhat equal to bukkit's * perm?

drowsy quest
#

It would also be equal to using * on Sponge

fossil iris
#

oh, then I misunderstood something, nvm then

drowsy quest
#

Plugins themselves don’t have xxx.* noses because Sponge has a mechanism for that and LP parses the wildcard too

fossil iris
#

ah thanks, I've never used sponge

drowsy quest
#

In fact for Sponge using the node xxx is essentially equivalent to using xxx.* The only difference being that with the first the node xxx itself is true and with the second it isn't. But for both, all child nodes (like xxx.aaa, xxx.bbb and xxx.a.b.c.d) are true

polar thunder
#

Anyone can help me with crashs?

#

Paying 50$ for how can help

burnt tendon
#

what ia your problem?

drowsy quest
#

@polar thunder try removing one plugin at a time

#

So you’ll eventually figure out who’s the culprit

polar thunder
#

It's a memory leak

#

When I start the server

drowsy quest
#

Also a full log might be helpful

polar thunder
#

He starts at 16gb

#

When the crashs happens the server have 32 gb (max)

#

It's memory leak

#

But I can't find where

#

I have 65 plugins

potent prawn
#

try removing one plugin at a time

polar thunder
#

Remove one by one will get me 1 week

#

The memory leak only work if have players online

#

Fuck..

#

If someone help me I pay 50$

#

Right now

#

In paypal

potent prawn
#

then list your plugins and maybe we can suggest which ones might be suspicious

drowsy quest
#

You can still upload your log

potent prawn
#

that too

polar thunder
#

Click in plugins

#

That's a timings for hours ago, with that was happening also

#

That's the log before the server crash

#

Before this don't have errors

#

Don't have errors in start

#

And when the server will crash the tps even keep in 19.5+

#

Memory starts to increase but don't affect the tps

#

Memory leak ram*

drowsy quest
#

@polar thunder that’s not a log

polar thunder
#

I'm at my cellphone

#

12hours at my pc trying to fix it

#

I'm so tired

#

Sorry

polar thunder
#

πŸ˜” πŸ˜”

bleak notch
#

@polar thunder first of all in your code don't open a new mysql connection every time you make a mysql call. Check if connection is open if it's not then open a new 1

rustic cobalt
#

Use a connection pool like Hikari, the method to check if a connection is open has a few quirks in that it might not pick up a closed connection properly, but really, use a pool, and use try-with-resources to ensure that you're actually closing resources instead of leaking them all over

#

You also shouldn't be doing mysql transactions on the main thread where possible

tiny slate
#

Does anyone use chunk loading plugins? I looked them up but most are outdated

#

Also same thing with fast leaf decay

#

legit all fast leaf decay plugins outdated

potent prawn
#

just because something is outdated doesn't necessarily mean it won't work.

fossil iris
#

For chunk loading there's "WorldGuard Extra Flags"
Leaf decay plugins don't break often, they usually just listen for breaking logblocks and clears the leaves around them
Unless the bukkit call to break the block changed they should still work

gilded nova
#

someone there?

#
java.lang.RuntimeException: Failed to load driver class com.mysql.cj.jdbc.Driver in either of HikariConfig class loader or Thread context classloader
    at changeskin.hikari.HikariConfig.setDriverClassName(HikariConfig.java:529)
    at com.github.games647.changeskin.core.SkinStorage.<init>(SkinStorage.java:41)
    at com.github.games647.changeskin.core.ChangeSkinCore.setupDatabase(ChangeSkinCore.java:112)
    at com.github.games647.changeskin.core.ChangeSkinCore.load(ChangeSkinCore.java:79)
    at com.github.games647.changeskin.bungee.ChangeSkinBungee.onEnable(ChangeSkinBungee.java:77)
    at net.md_5.bungee.api.plugin.PluginManager.enablePlugins(PluginManager.java:227)
    at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:291)
    at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:112)
    at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15)```
#

fixed

polar thunder
#

fuckkk

#

at 8:04 in the log, the server starts to crash again

#

anyone can help me?

#

i can pay 50$ right now for who can find what is causing this issue

rustic cobalt
#

You apparently have network issues

#

That report is also somewhat useless, either your disk is slow, or your server has a plugin or something doing stuff which is taking too long; Use timings

polar thunder
#

latest timing

drowsy quest
#

I found your issue

#

It’s called 1.8

polar thunder
#

πŸ˜”

#

There was skyblock servers in 1.8 that get more then 500 online simultaneously

drowsy quest
#

I mean 1.8 is riddled with bugs

rustic cobalt
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When running unsupported software, the burden of support is entirely down upon you

drowsy quest
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The memory leaks could very well be caused by MC

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The least you should do is use 1.8.9

rustic cobalt
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You seemingly lack the experience to support yourself with the software, and if you require support, should be running a supported version

drowsy quest
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As that’s by far the stablest and most secure version

rustic cobalt
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There was no 1.8.9 server, .8 -> .9 was solely a client fix and so spigot never dropped a .9 server release

drowsy quest
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Pretty sure paper did πŸ€”

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But anyways make sure you’re running the very latest you can get your hands on

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I’d also recommend you install Sampler. This allows you to create a HeapDump. Should make it obvious where the leak is

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And the code you posted earlier is already leaking like crazy

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Not a single close call on resource intensive objects

viral notch
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"Pretty sure paper did πŸ€”"

nope, it didn't

drowsy quest
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My bad

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I don’t know everything

drowsy quest
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Sometimes I feel like I should start a blog and write about my pet peeves in Minecraft

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Like hiding your plugins

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Or insisting on 1.7/1.8

rustic cobalt
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Running a 1.8.8 server right now

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Mistakes where made ;-;

drowsy quest
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Yup

weary bay
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How to fix connection throttled?

drowsy quest
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Probably a config

weary bay
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ok xD other question are snowball knockback disabled in 1.12?

drowsy quest
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Nope

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It counts as PvP though

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Anyone know a good site for blogging?

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@hybrid loom maybe

weary bay
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Snowballs arent working

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tested 1min ago

rustic cobalt
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i thiiiink snowballs no longer KB in 1.12, at least i recall that being a complaint and it boiled down to either a plugin or vanilla

weary bay
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yep i see

hybrid loom
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@drowsy quest hm?

drowsy quest
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If you know a good site for creating a blog

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@hybrid loom

hybrid loom
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I personally just use the blog-thing from weebly

drowsy quest
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Are you happy with it?

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Kinda wanna make a blog where I rant about all the bad things I come across in the MC server community like plugin hiding, using 1.7/1.8 etc

hybrid loom
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Gives me a lot of customization.

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But the free version of weebly has some limitations, of what you can use... That's why I have the professional plan (including the domain with WhoIs Guard)

drowsy quest
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Ok. I'll give it a try

twin warren
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you can self host it too if you don't wanna pay their prices for hosting

drowsy quest
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Ok. Though atm I'd prefer a free hosted thing

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As I neither have money, nor a server I can host it on

twin warren
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well, you get what you pay for with that sorta thing

drowsy quest
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I know

hybrid loom
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Is it now 19 or 29 per month?

rustic cobalt
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19 if you pay anually

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or 29 if you pay monthly

drowsy quest
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If you pay anually it's $19 per month (effectively. Aka $228 per year)
And if you want to monthly it's $29 per month

hybrid loom
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So it's 228 per year, when paying annually

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kk

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Well

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I stay with weebly tho

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It's around $140 per year with a own domain, WhoIs-Guard and a ton of options to customize the site to your liking

twin warren
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or you could just pay $5/m for a digitalocean droplet

gilded nova
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If it's just a personal blog why not use a Github page?

twin warren
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hm good shout

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jekyll works p. well

drowsy quest
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@gilded nova I kinda want a half decent looking blog

gilded nova
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What's stopping you from doing that with Github?

drowsy quest
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If anyone's interested xD
https://mcserverrant.weebly.com

Will likely add the first few rants soon

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I really just want to have a blog and not care about any web stuff

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Also GitHub Pages don't run PHP iirc

gilded nova
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Yeah I believe it's only static content but for a blog I'd personally be alright with that

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Being able to use your own domain and have full control over the page without paying is a trade I'd be willing to make

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It's all personal preference though whatever works

drowsy quest
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I usually prefer that too. But I literally just want a place to rant xD

drowsy quest
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Thoughts? πŸ˜‰

potent prawn
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well i guess i should stop hiding my plugins then πŸ˜›

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please consider optimizing that background image, takes forever to load

drowsy quest
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Yeah. Just picked a random image

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Will optimize it eventually

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I have a few more rants xD

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Next one will probably be about premium plugins

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Also planned one on cracked servers

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And who’s for a RTFM style article? ;3

viral notch
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"Also planned one on cracked servers"

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9 year old kids jump at you

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xD now seriously, at least think on both sides of the coin please

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also about hiding "your" plugins... I personally only have a problem with the plugins to "BLOCK /PLUGINS FREE DOWNLOAD!!!" while you could just negate a simple permission and done, they can't use /plugins anymore

rustic cobalt
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it's stupid

viral notch
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well, back to my Need for Speed Most Wanted--- ohai

rustic cobalt
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It's like, if your plugins are the only thing stopping somebody from cloning your server, you're doing something wrong

potent prawn
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i just hate people being nosey

gilded nova
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Here are my thoughts:

Not letting the players know that the plugins are not self made

I think this is a silly concept too. There are very few networks with a large enough operating scale to justify an entirely custom set up, especially for things like a permissions plugin. There's no shame in using public plugins. In my case, my network uses LP as a backend and we've made our own command interface for staff members to use. They don't see any LP messages or use any LP commands, though we've also never obscured the fact that we use LuckPerms as our permissions plugin.

We're open about a good portion of our plugins, going as far as creating a tutorial / showcase for one of our core plugins. We do however block the plugin list for a myriad of other reasons, one of them being security. I do disagree with you on one point however.


I though for the longest time that was some kind of joke or lame excuse, however I'm shocked that many server owners/admins actually belive that.```

I don't know any community where this isn't an issue. Minigames being reused or rebranded across popular networks has always had a direct correlation to player count, and in the factions community servers reusing old/leaked plugins and creating successful servers (often times competitors) is relatively common. I think blocking the PL to prevent "copying" in and of itself is a silly stance, but in my opinion the impact of people copying plugins / ideas is pretty major.
drowsy quest
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@viral notch I’ll go over both sides

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Though considering I think pirating is stealing, (which I’ll make very clear) that’s still a lot to ask for.

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@gilded nova the entire second segment deals with the fact that the notion that everything should be custom made is stupid XD

gilded nova
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I saw that yeah

drowsy quest
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And I agree with your last point. However I’m solely talking about the plugin lists

gilded nova
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That's fair enough

drowsy quest
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But thanks for your feedback

gilded nova
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πŸ‘

viral notch
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yes, piracy is supposedly illegal (although in reality it's not that much enforced if at all), soooo I think it's better to understand both sides

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but ye I get you

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I'm not the dude who pirates their games and then goes complaining to their devs for support anyway so meh

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I'm just kinda tired of the people (not saying it's your case) who don't care about the other side, that's why I "asked" that

rustic cobalt
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"don't care about the other side" wut

drowsy quest
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Pirating something is a giant dick move. Even if it’s not illegal it’s highly immoral

viral notch
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@rustic cobalt why it exists/happens

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not saying it should be legal

rustic cobalt
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Considering that the majority of servers which pirate stuff end up taking donations in, pretty dick move to not support the people who make the software

drowsy quest
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Making money off of pirated stuff is the cherry on top of the fuck you cake

viral notch
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I mean... about the cracked servers then yeah

drowsy quest
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Then rant will be mainly targeted towards the servers

viral notch
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yeye I was thinking about piracy in general for some moments

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but yeah you're right

rustic cobalt
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Oh god, the cracked servers which then have an explosively priced donor store are just fucking beautiful

viral notch
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I have the mentality that, "if the cracked player really likes the game they will just buy an original account in the future". and the truth is that I've had a lot of friends who did that, or who asked to a friend who could buy to buy them one

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(speaking personally of course)

rustic cobalt
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Heres the thing

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if you wanna run an offline mode server, go for it

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The moment you expect me to provide support for issues caused because you disabled the security on your server, you can go f*** yourself

drowsy quest
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Cracking something to check it out with the intention of buying it later if you like it is borderline ok

rustic cobalt
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The entitlement of such people just amazes me to all hell

viral notch
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I mean, the majority of the issues are in practice because the server owner is stupid lol

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usually those are the ones who tend to run cracked servers from what I can see

drowsy quest
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Cracking something to spite the DEVs because they’re giant assholes (cough cough EA cough cough) is ok too

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But that’s essentially it

viral notch
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... LOL

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tbh you now made me want to have a blog for myself too

drowsy quest
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And I mean running a cracked server is essentially like running a black market. You’re giving people a justification to do it. And that’s why I think it’s worse than cracking itself

viral notch
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"The entitlement of such people just amazes me to all hell"

@rustic cobalt yes because a one-hour limited demo with no access to multiplayer is going to show to the people if they really like the game to the point of buying it

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but tbh I actually blame Mojang for that

rustic cobalt
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My complaint is more on entitled server owners, not players.

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If you wanna play cracked games, go for it; I'm hardly one to play innocent

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Just don't expect me to go out of my way to fix issues literally caused because you've disabled the systems mojang added to solve this, or issues caused because you've broken the expectations of the software

viral notch
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I mean, cracked servers exist because there is public for it

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there are people to play on those same servers

rustic cobalt
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Doesn't mean that server owners have to act like we owe them something

drowsy quest
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And let’s not forget we’re talking about spending 20€ (whatever MC costs for you) for probably decades of game.

viral notch
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the problem's root ends up being the players

rustic cobalt
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no, lol

viral notch
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23.95€

rustic cobalt
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That statement is just stupid

viral notch
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or 24.95€ I don't remember now

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no it's not, otherwise a rant about stupid server owners is what should be made and not just cracked servers specifically

rustic cobalt
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stupid server owners is another ball game

viral notch
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cracked players servers exist because there are players for them

drowsy quest
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I’ll cover stupid owners in another rant

rustic cobalt
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beyond stupid server owners, I have much more hatred for stupid server owners who disable the built in protection that mojang offers, break the expectation of the server that it can and should do specific stuff (i.e. lookup skull textures), and then complain to us that their server is getting botted or crashed because they broke the servers expectation

drowsy quest
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That’s stupid

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But not something I’ll cover in my rant

viral notch
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I agree that that is stupid

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if that's the rant brain is going to do then I guess go ahead then

fierce vector
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minecraft for me as i expect it is for a lot of you the best value to entertainment ratio i have every spent

viral notch
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uh, beautiful sentence but I'm missing the meaning...

drowsy quest
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It’s like disabling the ABS in your car and complaining that it’s skidding and crashing when driving on ice

viral notch
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I mean ye those kind of problems it's the server owners who should sort them out theirselves

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(or in your example, the car drivers :P)

drowsy quest
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Though to summarize my post will explain why I think that morally speaking running cracked servers is a lot worse than cracking the game itself

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Let alone running a monetized cracked server

raw estuary
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abs on cars might be a wrong analogy in this instance when saying it being disabled and skidding and crashing when driving on ice.. can do that with abs enabled properly too ..

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personally i dislike abs

gilded nova
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@here dose anyone know how to set up bungee cord buycraft??

potent prawn
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here tags are disabled just fyi

drowsy quest
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@gilded nova from my experience allowing players to know what plugins you use is actually beneficial

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I cover the reasons in my blog post x3

gilded nova
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@potent prawn i cant under stand it lol im dyslexic thats why i came here XD

outer vesselBOT
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Hey Ccann! Please don't tag staff members.

potent prawn
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how is that different from reading messages in a discord chat

flint ingot
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What really annoys me is servers that not only allow cracked clients, but then have a shop where people pay real money for items on the server, on the minecraft servers group on facebook we will not list any server that allows a cracked client .

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The worse allow cracked clients ignore the eula and charge huge amounts for things like fly, one server I was on in the past asked fo $80 for fly and $300 for a dragon disguise. I had a debait with a server owner over the ethics of running a server that allowed cracked clients, he said its was mojangs fault for not being harder on it.

drowsy quest
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They should really start cracking down on all the servers breaking their EULA

flint ingot
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the only reason any server should be running in offline mode is when you are using bungee, and that is only because bunggee does that for you and requires the servers to be in ofline mode

drowsy quest
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It’s not fair for all the servers that follow it too

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There are some other technical edge cases

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But a public server shouldn’t be in offline mode

flint ingot
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true, it is not hard to be eula complient, but frustrating when you are and so many are not.

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lucky for me i consider my servers hobby servers, and because i self host am not worried about getting any money from them. i do have a donation option for those that really want to.

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I;ve probally spent near on $150 on spigot plugins too.

rapid pollen
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@flint ingot which ones

flint ingot
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all sorts over the years

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mcmmo , boss bar, citizens, inventorysX, one that had we cars and choppers and stuff, a perms plugin that was buggy as hell, some cristmas plugins, and others

digital lance
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I'm putting that blog into my aggregator

drowsy quest
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Thanks ^^

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New post probably today

versed sequoia
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hai

hybrid loom
drowsy quest
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It's ~ not -

hybrid loom
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Barely visible with that font

drowsy quest
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And 1000h of work?

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Easy

hybrid loom
drowsy quest
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That's less than 3h of work per day over a year

digital lance
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I just read it as "about"

drowsy quest
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Especially with a team that's easily achievable

digital lance
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It does look like a hyphen in that screen grab

drowsy quest
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Yeah

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Maybe I'll change the font

gilded nova
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hey
there's anyway to pass a 1.12 world to 1.8 world?

hybrid loom
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In that size and for does it look like a normal - for me

rustic cobalt
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no

gilded nova
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no?..

hybrid loom
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@gilded nova What do you mean with "pass"?

rustic cobalt
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You can't load a 1.12 world in 1.8 without expecting stuff to break

gilded nova
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i mean

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my survival server is 1.12

drowsy quest
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I mean I can also clearly read it as a ~

rustic cobalt
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Missing blocks, changes in world data, etc

gilded nova
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if i put it on 1.8

rustic cobalt
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You'll break all of your chests and signs and such

gilded nova
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that's why i need someway to do it

rustic cobalt
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There is no way, beyond writing a tool to translate all of the data

hybrid loom
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Well. No Won't work @gilded nova
Like @rustic cobalt mentioned will there be blocks missing, that are only in 1.9+