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lost geyser
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Meh I already have email and that's adequate for my needs. I just need a domain name. A free website and phbb boards will be a plus.

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There are domains that I've never heard of. Fun domains that is.

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There are cheap ones that end in .pw

pastel grail
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plenty of .pw domains, most of those seems to be starting to be used for PW's for Neverwinter Nights as its getting a makover by Beamdog

lost geyser
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@pastel grail what about .io?

pastel grail
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I've seen those mostly used for webUI based panels, systems for file storage.

lost geyser
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.com seems middle cheap. I am told that .com or .org are best

pastel grail
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i don't need to mention what .xxx is used for 🤣

lost geyser
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My mum always sends me christmas cards with xxx on it 😦

pastel grail
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yeah well i don't think she ment what i was referring to

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..... shes your mum you should know her better then I do

lost geyser
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@pastel grail yeah...so .com seems like a good bet. That's about £7.49 per year.

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.org is also the same price as .com

potent prawn
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@lost geyser Stay away from GoDaddy they are terrible

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Namecheap would be a much better option.

lost geyser
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@potent prawn Yeah I know. I'm going with Namecheap. 😃

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So I got the domain but don't know what to do with it 😂

potent prawn
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You need to find the DNS settings and make A/CNAME records depending on your requirements

lost geyser
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@potent prawn I'm having trouble verfying contacts. I've already verified but it's not being recognised.

potent prawn
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I'm not sure what you mean by "verifying contacts"

lost geyser
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It's in the dashboard,. I have to verify the contacts via email link. But the links in the email didn't work.

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I'm chatting with them now anyway 😳 swings and roundabouts

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Should I get the play. subdomain thing or not?

potent prawn
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Completely up to you. We have that.

lost geyser
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@potent prawn Namecheap help me set it up. I'm just waiting half an hour for the process to be done and the I can connect with it. I hope it works.

pastel grail
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DNS prop takes ~24 hours sometimes longer. that is the default TTL for Domain records unless its been set much shorter ( TTL of 300 )

lost geyser
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@pastel grail TLL automatic I think.

pastel grail
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Then I'd say ~24 hours

lost geyser
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It's worked already. I've used the new domain to connect. 😉

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I'm off to bed night night

drowsy quest
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Typically 1-2 hours for DNS

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24 max

random knoll
lost geyser
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@potent prawn Isn't the "play." thing just a subdomain though?

lost geyser
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Does anyone use PlanetMinecraft and has a server listed? I need to change the "Connect With" box that shows the IP address to a custom domain name. I don't know how it is done.

bitter thorn
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Yes it is a subdomain “play.”

lost geyser
hybrid loom
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If I can give feedback:
Way to "compact". Scoreboard shouldn't be used for showing walls of text.
They are more usefull for dynamic infos (like your ping, health, xp, rank to name a few things).
With that scoreboard, a lot of players lose focus of the server (also the fact that it covers half the screen isn't good to) and leave it again.

lost geyser
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@hybrid loom The plugin uses the score board.

hybrid loom
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hmmm... Not really the best way for giving infos imo

lost geyser
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@hybrid loom better than giving books I guess.. It was Slimedog who advised me to get it. I like it actually. I just don't know how to remove the red numbers on the right hand side. I haven't looked into the folders that much though.

hybrid loom
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That isn't possible

lost geyser
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It disappears once you look away from the sign

hybrid loom
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The numbers are required

lost geyser
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@hybrid loom Oh well.

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You just look at the sign and it pops up, you look away and its gone. It's not that intrusive.

hybrid loom
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yeah. Then it's ok.

lost geyser
pastel grail
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I use Signboard. Better then a big arsed wall of vanilla signs that usually end up looking like crap if someone uses a texture pack. or if i use a texture pack and format the text on the signs to look nice but on vanilla it looks like utter crap.

lost geyser
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@pastel grail I'm pleased to be using the plugin. It's lightweight as well

pastel grail
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While I agree with you @hybrid loom that scoreboards should be generally used for dynamic info Signboard is fast, very lightweight and only kicks in when a player actually looks at it to change their scoreboard. once they look away featherboard (ect) switches back on for your dynamic info to be displayed 😃

hybrid loom
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I use Holograms for infos.

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Also using BannerBoard

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Combines infos with cool look.

pastel grail
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Holograms can cause issues for people that have lower end intel hd crapware 😛

hybrid loom
pastel grail
hybrid loom
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yeah. ^^

pastel grail
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just wished there was some way instead of a screenshot to prove you actually have access to plugins like that. Even if its url that states "Yes [user] has access to [plugin] from [resourceowner]" lol

hybrid loom
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There's a software from mvdw that does that

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Enter Name/ID of user and it checks, what plugins the player has purchased.

pastel grail
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only works per dev, not site wide. its locked to 2FA of a dev's account on spigot.

hybrid loom
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🤷 Never used it

pastel grail
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I was talking about a url like https://api.spigotmc.org/verify?user={useridnumber}?resource={resourceidnumber} as spigot uses xenforo users and resources have an id number in the database

hybrid loom
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That's obvious if you check the URL of a resource... It always ha the title, followed by a dot and a nuber

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You could remove the text or change it to anything else and it still leads to the same page, as long as the id is correct

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Also Spigot uses the Resource-Manager from XenForo too.

pastel grail
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I know, xenforo licence holder here 😛

hybrid loom
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same

lost geyser
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Does anyone have any experience with directing .htaccess file to a domain in cPanel?

grizzled oak
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@lost geyser I like your use of SignBoard. Mine is similar. As noted, the board appears only when player is looking at the sign (or a similarly-configured NPC). (Sorry, I was afk.)

lost geyser
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@grizzled oak Yeah I'm pleased with it.

lost geyser
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I'll delete as soon as someone can confirm

grizzled oak
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@lost geyser I am connected. (and now, not)

lost geyser
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@grizzled oak Yeah I'm just uploading files. So you managed to get on that site?

grizzled oak
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^

somber quiver
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Ask

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Have some whone experince whit luckperms

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I have a probleem

grizzled oak
lost geyser
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Try that site one more time @grizzled oak

somber quiver
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No whone help my

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Not brain or André

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Or luke

grizzled oak
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I am connected again. and now, not.

lost geyser
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@grizzled oak You're half connected?

grizzled oak
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Patience @somber quiver

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I don't understand half-connected. I connected, then disconnected.

lost geyser
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Can you try again?

grizzled oak
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I guess in statistical terms, I am half-connected. 😃

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I am connected.

lost geyser
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So do you actually get to the site and see the content?

grizzled oak
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Yes.

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That's what "connected" means.

lost geyser
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@grizzled oak Good its working.

grizzled oak
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You can test it yourself from any (not you logged in) computer.

lost geyser
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Am new to all this stuff lol

somber quiver
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I am not

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Vps are easy

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Install Apache2

grizzled oak
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and he got it to work. So there we have it.

lost geyser
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I wasn't trying to advertise I just wanted to see whether the public can connect.

grizzled oak
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You could have not advertised by opening a private chat.

somber quiver
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I have see page

lost geyser
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@grizzled oak true

grizzled oak
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Strictly speaking, you are advertising.

lost geyser
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I've deleted it now 😁

pastel grail
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Its been ~2 years since the last commit @stark coral so perhaps on the back buner so to speak. Personally I think the editor is safer.

sullen adder
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Hi

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Leaderheads not working ( signs )

twin warren
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it's very unlikely that anyone is going to be able to help you here

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have you attempted to ask the author for help?

stark coral
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So project of the GUI is discontinued? Because you cannot remove / add groups through the web Editor

lost geyser
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Does anyone know how I can make the day in Minecraft longer?

twin warren
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yes you can crossdrain.

stark coral
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@twin warren I'm probably missing something let me check the documentation

lost geyser
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Thanks but I don't want to have to trawl through google search results. I spent the last three days doing enough of that 😦

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And I have already googled it and didn't find anythign apart from command blocks setting it.

stark coral
lost geyser
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@stark coral Is there no minecraft command to set it? Thanks for the link anyway.

stark coral
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This comes with a command

lost geyser
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@stark coral Thanks I might use that one. 🙂

stark coral
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No problem

drowsy quest
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@CrossDrain#8482 are you referring to adding and removing parents from players and groups?

stark coral
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Yes as well as creating / deleting groups.

drowsy quest
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The first is easy

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By adding and removing group.<group> nodes

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The other isn’t possible

stark coral
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That's why I would like the GUI project to be continued 😉

drowsy quest
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Have fun coding ;P

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Well I’ve been thinking about allowing multiple groups to be edited in the editor at once. Also adding and removing them

pastel grail
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The simple fact is @acoustic surge is that software development is focused on the target audience. Being minecraft, and unless suddenly Mojang/MS starts to push for higher java versions - which they won't in order to placate users on Win10 using Intel HD crapware - minecraft dev enviroment will revolve around Java8. Hell only revently the requirement for java was increased by mojang and that was for what... 1.12 I think.....

hybrid loom
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iirc do they have their own "java"-library, because they wasn't happy with that from Oracle

twin warren
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they just package a specific version with the launcher

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there's nothing special about it

hybrid loom
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🤷

lost geyser
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What's the default duration of day in Minecraft? It is supposed to be 20 minutes for day and night, but they don't seem like 20 minutes.

drowsy quest
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20 minutes

gilded nova
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When I updated to the latest spigot, my ping went up a lot for some reason it used to be at 13 ms now its at 620

twin warren
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Luck - Today at 19:43
wouldn't make any difference

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how are you measuring your ping

gilded nova
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Im using a plugin

twin warren
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maybe the plugin is making an inaccurate reading

gilded nova
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wait wrong

twin warren
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that's a bungeecord plugin

gilded nova
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yea

twin warren
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so i don't see how updating spigot would affect it

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Luck - Today at 19:47
maybe the plugin is making an inaccurate reading

gilded nova
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hm

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can you recommend me any ping plugins?

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is this good?

twin warren
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the bungeecord one you linked is just pulling the value from bungee itself

gilded nova
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oh

twin warren
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my point is more that the way the server determines a players ping is flawed

gilded nova
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something about it is slower tho

twin warren
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you're better off just checking in the server list

gilded nova
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Okay

twin warren
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@novel jewel use this channel

novel jewel
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Okey. Sorry.

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Not very helpful people in #spigot IRC channel. ;p

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Been trying every possible way I can think of now. Been struggling for hours.

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Tried both the UUID and my own nick, just to test.

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Not sure 'skull:1:3' is correct for menu-item.

twin warren
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might be worth opening a ticket on their github

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i've never heard of that plugin before

novel jewel
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It's actualy a quite nice plugin to make menus. Using it for server selector for hub, and other mini-games.

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It's off-topic for the PR, but it is for sure a problem which CodeCrafter pointed at.

twin warren
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that placeholder should work just fine

novel jewel
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It doesn't.

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That's the problem, and which CodeCrafter pointed at.

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It doesn't sort users based on weights.

twin warren
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the same method is used internally within luckperms

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and it works just fine there

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so??

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i need to see some sort of debugging from BTLP to help any further

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specifically to prove that placeholder is returning an inconsistent or incorrect value

novel jewel
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moderatorhelper | weight.355

twin warren
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i have no reason to believe it is currently doing so

novel jewel
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moderator | weight.405

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Etc. I have weights on all of them.

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But yet it doesn't sort on them correctly.

twin warren
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ok, again

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Luck - Today at 22:17
i need to see some sort of debugging from BTLP to help any further
specifically to prove that placeholder is returning an inconsistent or incorrect value

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Luck - Today at 22:18
i have no reason to believe it is currently doing so

novel jewel
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How do I give you this debug?

twin warren
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it "not sorting them correctly" doesn't mean it's a LP issue

novel jewel
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There's no debug option in BTLP config.

twin warren
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ask the author to add one for you.

novel jewel
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Well, the same one for BungeePerms worked perfectly.

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On that ground it's safe to assume it's LuckPerms related.

twin warren
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related sure

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but what do you want me to do with that information

novel jewel
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Well, CodeCrafter just points me to you.

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Saying it is an issue with LP.

twin warren
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well maybe he should take responsibility for diagnosing issues menefesting themselves in his plugin

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those same methods are used by dozens of other plugins

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including placeholders in other APIs

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and i haven't had any reports of issues with those

novel jewel
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Well. I dunno. What I know is that it worked with the same one for BungeePerms.

twin warren
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yeah, unfortunately that's all I ever hear.

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constant whining that "hey this worked with x plugin - therefore it MUST be your fault"

novel jewel
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Not saying, but it must be related somehow.

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How, why.. I got no idea.

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and I don't know what to do when I basicly cannot debug it for you.

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and CodeCrafter just points me to LuckPerms.

twin warren
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ok, well then you'll have to wait until I have time to do it myself

novel jewel
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I have ignored the issue for half a year now, accepting it doesn't sort based on LuckPerms groups. So I guess it's alright.

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I just saw CodeCrafter talking about sorting issue with LuckPerms in that PR, so I thought it would be a good time to bring it up again. Sorry.

twin warren
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shrug

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weights are accumulated here:

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& here

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using exactly the same value as is used internally

novel jewel
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Thanks, but it doesn't make any sense to me. My Java knowledge stops at making extremly simple plugins to block an event or something. Sorry.

twin warren
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i'm merely pointing out that it's a very simply process

gilded nova
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Does anyone know what SpigotLib does?

rich roost
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Looking for a difficulty level of 1-10 and/or maybe an estimated price?

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Me, I feel as if it wouldn't be too difficult considering it synchronizes with many perms plugins already Synchronizes groups with the following permissions systems: bPermissions, GroupManager, PermissionsBukkit, PermissionsEx. though I'm not exactly sure.

twin warren
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it supports vault

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so should already work with luckperms

rich roost
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Out of the box it should support LP, or do I have to have someone add something to the source to enable it to work with LuckPerms?

leaden ocean
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it should work out the box, unless the author states any extra steps that must be taken

twin warren
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yeah

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just make sure you have vault installed on your server

rich roost
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Alrighty, thanks Luck and merjilin.

pastel grail
unique fable
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lol ofc it does

pastel grail
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Using a wiki to refer to another wiki is... well a pain in the arse. Even more so once a plugin becomes defunct/stale. Usually that referred wiki ends up being taken down or removed due to the lack of need for it

pastel grail
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@ebon bloom as I'm going to assume this is the first time your setting up something like this I suggest that you read the spongeforge docs, the section under being an expert songeneer (or something to that effect)

ebon bloom
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Alroght thankies

pastel grail
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that will have other nodes as well that you may/maynot need to add into other groups such as mods/admins

gilded nova
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Should I use Nuvotifier or Votifier

potent prawn
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nuvotifier

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votifier is no longer being maintained

gilded nova
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oh

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is this a good listener?

potent prawn
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No idea. But judging by the ratings and the fact it was last updated today, it is probably good.

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Only way you're going to find out is by testing it yourself.

gilded nova
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Okay

pastel grail
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there are several different sorts of vote listener's @gilded nova - read to see if it fits you

gilded nova
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@pastel grail Okay.

torn ice
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what does buycraft bungee even do? xD

gilded nova
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What do you think the best shopgui is?

torn ice
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im not sure but the is a really good paid one

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I forgot the name

gilded nova
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is It shopguiplus?

torn ice
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Yep

pastel grail
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pure gui based? yeah one of the simplier ones

gilded nova
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I like simple

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Is there one where you can convert it from essentials

pastel grail
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I dumped essentials around the time that 1.8.9 came about lol

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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look around there might be one

gilded nova
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Okay

viral fog
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@gilded nova not possible shopguiplus is just too advanced for essentials

pastel grail
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continue here @viral fog what we were talking about was offtopic to be honest

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the usual direction people come when they want a mc server is either from realms or they hosted lan type systems with friends

torn ice
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Does anybody know how to make it so when my skyblock server gets restarted it takes everyone to the server lobby?

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Using bungee

mint inlet
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I believe plugins like MoveMeNow or HubMagic do that

lunar night
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buycraft bungee lets you run commands, on purchase, via the bungeecord. kinda pointless, imo, for most stuff.

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Man, glad to know I'm not the only one who deals with....uhh....special....people. Had someone a few weeks ago tell me they wanted to make me a plugin. They tried 2 different java development softwares and neither one worked, so they're (last I heard) trying a 3rd. Ended up telling them it was a PEBKAC issue.

(Thought I stuck that in the off-topic channel. Oops.)

halcyon island
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@torn ice optionally, if your host can do scheduled commands, you could use a command block to teleport all players to it and then trigger a restart several ticks later.

lost geyser
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Was just thinking: to Dynamicmap or not? Does anyone use it? Is it a memory hog? What's the size of it? 🤔

potent prawn
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If you have a large world, don't do it IMO. It will hog your drive space if you don't configure it correctly.

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Mine takes up about 32gb and that's with low quality settings

lost geyser
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@potent prawn I thought it might take a lot of space. They look good though. 🙂

potent prawn
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keep in mind that my main world is over 250gb in size, so don't let that put you off lol

lost geyser
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@potent prawn Must cost a fortune. Here in the UK everything is so expensive. 😳

potent prawn
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yeah it's not cheap (about $250 US a month) but the players cover that with their supporter subs

lost geyser
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@potent prawn 😮 thats almost a month rent for me

potent prawn
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Lucky for some. That's just over a week's rent for me lol.

lost geyser
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😂

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@potent prawn How many players do you have in total?

potent prawn
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30612 unique joins since april 6 2014

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Probably a low number compared to other servers that have been around that long but we're not very active with advertising.

lost geyser
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@potent prawn Are they mostly adults?

potent prawn
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fuck i wish 😂

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we started out aiming to be a mostly adult server but the kids just kept on coming

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our regular players are a nice mix of ages though

lost geyser
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@potent prawn How many staff do you have?

potent prawn
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Slack says 29 users, so I'm going with that

lost geyser
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Are they paid?

potent prawn
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Nah, ideally one day but we barely make enough to cover server expenses.

lost geyser
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Are you eula as well?

potent prawn
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Yes

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If there is anything I hate in modern gaming, it is pay-to-win

lunar night
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Pay-to-win can get you a LOT of money, so good on you for not going that route.

grave summit
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$3 to get lunch

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What to get...

lost geyser
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@potent prawn Alot of servers still do pay-to-win

potent prawn
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@lunar night yeah, there's been a lot of temptation but my ethics will always prevail 😎

lunar night
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I wouldn't do it on my main network, but if I ever re-re-re-launch my factions server, I would.

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Those guys literally told me "if you had OP kits for sale, we'd buy them all"

lost geyser
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My server is just going on custom donations and a few eula-compliant ranks.

potent prawn
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lol brb starting ptw factions server

leaden ocean
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As long as you give ranks cosmetics, you're good eula wise

lunar night
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Which is crazy, considering they were practically begging to give me money but it was right after all those top servers got blacklisted.

lost geyser
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Yeah things like /afk and /clear are cheap

potent prawn
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I seen a post on reddit where a server would redirect visitors from a specific region (e.g. europe - mojang hq) to a EULA complient store, while the rest of the visitors get to buy all the good stuff. Thought it was quite clever.

leaden ocean
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I stick to trails, player glow, etc

lost geyser
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yeah I got trails, fly in spawn, kittycanon

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Never heardof player glow

leaden ocean
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It's a sponge plugin. Not too sure if spigot has one, but I bet it has

potent prawn
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is that just using the spectral effect or something else?

lost geyser
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Players also get in-game cash if they purchase a rank

lunar night
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I've read the EULA on that. Can't sell anything that provides an unfair advantage. I use a way too complex ticket system for crate keys that barely makes it compliant. Probably gonna remove it.

leaden ocean
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Pretty sure it just uses thay effect yeah, Turbotailz

lost geyser
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Anyone can get in-game cash (providing they can work for it, play, vote, etc) though so its not really giving a player a special advantage.

leaden ocean
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Still a weird one with the eula. Much like how you can't mention the word donator if the user is purchasing something. A couple modded networks got done for that a few months ago

lost geyser
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Do they go for little servers though? I heard they target the big servers more often.

leaden ocean
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I've heard them go after some smaller networks, but generally they go after anyone who has been reported for breaching the eula

lost geyser
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Yeah I guess they have to act on it when it is reported on

lunar night
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woulda be kinda messed up to report all your competitors....

leaden ocean
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XD

grizzled oak
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It's kind of messed up for them to be non-compliant. Just saying.

leaden ocean
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Servers know how to bypass the blacklist anyway, it wouldn't do much

grizzled oak
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Mojang should go after THAT, imho.

lunar night
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I only did that twice. First one, the guy literally ripped my server, and second one the owner was not very nice at all

grizzled oak
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Why would you expect people who don't respect rules to be nice? 😃

leaden ocean
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I've known plenty of owners who don't abide by the eula, and the majority of them are lovely

grizzled oak
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That's great, but probably shouldn't be your expectation.

potent prawn
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^ probably one of my favourite things of being a MC server admin is responding to ban appeals

leaden ocean
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But they don't make it pay to win entirely

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Modded server owners view it a bit different as well, as many things are possible on modded Minecraft which aren't on spigot/vanilla. So they don't see why things such as /fly should be penalised if a user can obtain flight within 20 minutes of logging in

lost geyser
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Do you all have donation targets?

grizzled oak
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No. But my server isn't monetized, for the players.

leaden ocean
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I don't care for donations personally, but the owner set a target of $180

potent prawn
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$300 a month is our goal. we usually get it.

lunar night
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i think I set $250 and haven't seen that much since.....late 2016/early2017?

potent prawn
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we have a couple of players who donate ranks to other players, which helps a lot.

drowsy quest
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Our goal will be to get our costs covered

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Everything above is a nice bonus

potent prawn
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ya, we aim higher than we need to cover any month we don't meet the goal

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though right now we're good for a few months at least

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when your minecraft server is doing better financially than you are IRL

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😔

pastel grail
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With me its a little...different. Think of it as running two networks. One closed off. and another that is open to public (the normal minecraft network that everyone knows about). The closed off network is a network that is focused on people with disabilities. The only way you gain access is via a recognised service provider like the luke priddis foundation (example only but its where most of who joins the closed off network).

I deal with the parents/adults and with the foundations directly. Never with the kids. The conditions that the kids join is that they must join in the presence of their parents/care givers. This helps the parent/caregiver understand their child/charge properly as they learn and grow in a safe enviroment that is not only supervised by the parent/caregiver but by other parents/caregivers as well

grave summit
#

I've gotta wait 45 minutes until the library opens

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Or I can get lunch

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It's 9:16 am though....

pastel grail
#

ohhh bit early for lunch for another fellow aussie isn't it? 😛

twin warren
#

pfft

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you guys and your cute timezones

potent prawn
#

nz here and still too early for lunch

pastel grail
#

ahh but its 9:17am Tuesday.... not Monday Luck 😛

grave summit
#

@potent prawn we're right next to each other...

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@pastel grail what state?

pastel grail
#

Sydney

grave summit
#

ACT

twin warren
#

🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧

#

winner winner

grave summit
#

I actually live in NSW

potent prawn
#

2 hours apart == right next to each other? alrighty 😛

grave summit
#

@potent prawn look at a map...

potent prawn
#

all i see is a big continent called "Nope-land"

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land of the nopes

grave summit
#

Well

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It isn't Australia

pastel grail
#

UTC is so behind the time hehe

grave summit
#

Australia is the smallest continent

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Not big

gilded nova
#

Its 4:20 here

grave summit
#

@gilded nova pm or am

potent prawn
#

ayylmao

gilded nova
#

pm

pastel grail
#

The land of the nopes as in nope we don't put up with shit from overseas compnaies like Valve sure I'll agree to that @potent prawn

potent prawn
#

ahahaha

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yeah, deadly creatures definitely not part of that

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and crazy hot weather

pastel grail
#

ahhh well what doesn't kill you just makes you stronger

grave summit
#

Tomorrow when the war began is actually partially feasible (The part where other countries attack Australia)

#

@pastel grail

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That's wront

potent prawn
#

loved reading those books

grave summit
#

Wrong

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Breaking your leg doesn't make you stronger

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Becoming a paraplegic doesn't make you stronger

potent prawn
pastel grail
#

lol well if you die from a simple break of a bone then you shouldn't travel to begin with.. common sense

grave summit
#

Luck, with issue #668 could he/she have used quotation marks?

twin warren
#

maybe

grave summit
#

server=""

twin warren
#

uhh no

#

don't think so

#

but "server= "

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that would

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well not anymore anyway

pastel grail
#

^^

grave summit
#

Okay.

pastel grail
#

you know I still can't beleive some people still use PEX. Or say that one of the best plugins to use is PEX 😦

grave summit
#

PEX is great

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Well

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Was great

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Until I found luckperms

#

Didn't it get abandoned?

pastel grail
#

Yeap

lunar night
#

You guys should've seen the DSRV chat yesterday. We were all talking about how great LuckPerms is and some dude came in saying he tried to use it but decided to stay with PEX.

pastel grail
#

Well discontinued/stale

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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good luck to them i say

grave summit
#

Aren't they telling everyone who wants to take over to use luckperms instead

pastel grail
#

zml is yes

lunar night
#

I think Andre was there....if that's the same dude following me around in all the discord guilds. peeks out the window

pastel grail
#

at a guess zml is/was the dev for PEX ... only a gut feeling guess

grave summit
#

Andre is not creepy

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Okay

lunar night
#

Never said he was. We're just in a lot of the same discord channels

grave summit
#

Ugh

lunar night
#

Okay....just this one and dsrv

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coulda sworn it was more...

grave summit
#

If he is on luck perms. How is he not in all of the same channels

leaden ocean
#

Yep, zml was developer of pex

lunar night
#

discord guilds* i meant

grave summit
#

Wrong again

#

It's server, discord server.

lunar night
#

they call them guilds, i thought?

leaden ocean
#

The github page for pex now tells users to use luckperms

grave summit
#

For proof. Press the plus button at the bottom of the list of discord servers

leaden ocean
#

Yes, discord themselves called them guilds

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In all of their documentation at least

lunar night
#

i haven't thought about guilds since my WoW days

grave summit
#

Ugh, 20min

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Until library opens

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I'm cold

pastel grail
#

I have to agree, code wise, API wise discord calls/classes them a guilds

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prob the devs for discord are WoW fanatics 😛

grave summit
#

Then why does it say

leaden ocean
#

UI refers to them as servers due to everyone being plebs

pastel grail
#

^^

grave summit
#

"Add a server"

pastel grail
#

lol that too

grave summit
#

...

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I feel like you tried to indirectly insult me.

leaden ocean
#

Nope :P

pastel grail
#

lol was just about to give that link

grave summit
#

...

#

You win

#

Show off

leaden ocean
#

:)

lunar night
#

so i'm not completely special. :p

grave summit
#

$3 for lunch, what to get.

lunar night
#

Didn't you ask that a few hours ago?

leaden ocean
#

Depends on where you are located and what the prices are like

grave summit
#

Yes, no one answered

lunar night
#

So you didn't eat?

leaden ocean
#

For $3 in the UK I can get a pack of crisps and a bottle of water

grave summit
#

And I asked at 9:25

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9:15*

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30min ago

pastel grail
#

3 pounds or 3 aussie dollars @leaden ocean ? exchange rate to consider here 😛

lunar night
#

a bottle of water and a snack for $3? seems expensive

leaden ocean
#

Oh this is Aussie dollars? I was converting it to pounds from US dollars

pastel grail
#

without using a converter 3 pounds is about 6 aussie dollars

drowsy quest
#

"crisps"
Ahhh. So long since I've last heard that word

leaden ocean
#

Hahaha

pastel grail
#

should of been a give away with that word

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along with colour too 😛

drowsy quest
#

🇬🇧

#

true

grave summit
#

I can get a frozen drink and a burger

#

But

leaden ocean
#

Go for it

grave summit
#

I don't like burgerw

leaden ocean
#

-_-

grave summit
#

Burgers*

lunar night
#

anyone ever ask what you mean by "crisps"?

grave summit
#

Wat

drowsy quest
#

While I don't have a particular preference for en_GB or en_US it's nice reading some British English every once in a while

grave summit
#

@lunar night it's potato chips

drowsy quest
#

crisps = chips
chips = fries

leaden ocean
#

I don't say it often unless I'm around others IRL, who are also British

lunar night
#

@grave summit I know.

drowsy quest
#

British English to American English 101

grave summit
#

Uh

drowsy quest
#

xD

grave summit
#

What about Aussie English...

lunar night
#

I was "married" to an Aussie for 9 years.

potent prawn
#

you "don't like burgers" are you even human

leaden ocean
#

IE, correct English to simplified English

grave summit
#

I am human

drowsy quest
#

xD

grave summit
#

Ish

pastel grail
#

my mates autistic daughter hates burgers

leaden ocean
#

I can remember when steam actually had that on their UI xD

grave summit
#

There's a very vauge line

drowsy quest
#

I mean Aussie Enlish is something I rarely get in touch with

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We could also ask what about Indian English?

potent prawn
#

just you wait until you come across NZ english!

grave summit
#

@drowsy quest I'm hurt!

drowsy quest
#

(That's a thing)

pastel grail
#

gringlish

leaden ocean
#

If I recall correctly, it's a mix of both UK English and US English

drowsy quest
#

And lot's of mate xD

grave summit
#

@drowsy quest

drowsy quest
#

#totallyNotRacistOrASteriotype

lunar night
#

I almost probably offended half of you. I always get confuzzled on which Indian people are talking about.

leaden ocean
#

🤷

pastel grail
#

mate, your full of it 😛

grave summit
#

And stereotypical

#

That's just bloody rude

#

Um

#

How

#

Did

vapid hedge
#

oh hey there @hybrid loom, you seem familiar :P

grave summit
#

That go backwards

leaden ocean
#

British people are hard to offend. Simply due to our dark sense of humour as a nation

drowsy quest
#

I have a pun that'll have anyone lying on the floor laughing excepts Aussies

#

Wanna hear? xD

lunar night
#

Greem, we're all fueled by pizza.

leaden ocean
#

Boooo

pastel grail
#

ohh no they aren't. I got family in the UK that took great offence at me and now I'm the black sheep of the family lol

lunar night
#

I actually had a decent-ish pizza not long ago...

potent prawn
#

could do with a pizza or two right now

pastel grail
#

go for it @drowsy quest 😃

drowsy quest
#

Same @potent prawn

lunar night
#

I fully regret my decision, tho. $30

leaden ocean
#

Something is wrong then, spanner xD Everyone I know doesn't get offended

vapid hedge
#

yeah we're all fueled by pizza

drowsy quest
#

Did you know that Australians don't have sex?

leaden ocean
#

Careful, Aberz. Scarsz is in this discord as well

grave summit
#

@leaden ocean you guys enslaved loads of countries

drowsy quest
#

Well, the mate

grave summit
#

Damn empire....

vapid hedge
#

they mate

#

lol

leaden ocean
#

🤷

potent prawn
#

wow

grave summit
#

That was late....

lunar night
#

Scarsz loves me, I think.

drowsy quest
#

Nighko rage in in 3 2 1

#

xD

grave summit
#

I don't rage

drowsy quest
#

Dawww

#

xD

vapid hedge
#

someone told me that I can migrate a permissions.yml into LuckPerms, is that true?

pastel grail
#

ha I'd like to see the answer to this, ok why don't aussies have sex?

leaden ocean
#

Yes, greem

grave summit
#

Why do people expect the library to be open 7m early

drowsy quest
#

"Well, they mate"

vapid hedge
#

the import command doesnt work

drowsy quest
#

@pastel grail

pastel grail
#

lol ohh ffs lol

vapid hedge
#

just spams errors

#

like hella errors

grave summit
#

....

pastel grail
#

haha

leaden ocean
#

/lp migration PermissionsEx

vapid hedge
#

owo

#

thanks

drowsy quest
#

My Australian girlfriend did not approve, lol xD

#

Have been laughing at it for days though

leaden ocean
#

Make sure to read the wiki :P Its jammed with everything you need to know and more

lunar night
#

Do all australian girls sound english, or was i just lucky?

grave summit
#

The wiki is useless

leaden ocean
#

Boii

drowsy quest
#

Also #support-1 is generally (pun pun pun) the better place to ask these questions @vapid hedge

grave summit
#

Half the people here are illiterate

vapid hedge
#

lol sorry

grave summit
#

Because they can't seem to read it

vapid hedge
#

just everyone was spamming in here to I thought id ask :P

lunar night
#

stares at the wiki, dictionary in hand

pastel grail
#

lol well tell her from another aussie to buck the fuck up and learn to laugh at yourself. only those that can't accept criticism can't laugh at themselves.

grave summit
#

Buck?

pastel grail
#

um @vapid hedge this channel is off topic - usually used for talking about shitbullshit in general. Luckperms help is in #support-1

vapid hedge
#

sorry ;c

drowsy quest
#

Btw do you guys have any terrible German(y) puns?

pastel grail
#

its ok 😃

drowsy quest
#

I absolutely love them x3

grave summit
#

@drowsy quest I googled German puns

#

90% of results had Adolf Hitler in them....

#

No joke ..

drowsy quest
#

FYI: I'm a patriotic (very rare sadly) German, having my flag on the wall and I lose my shit at Hitler and Nazi Jokes. At minimum I don't get offended lol

#

So go for it ^^

grave summit
#

Quick question

drowsy quest
#

Sure

grave summit
#

What's 1megabyte in megabits

drowsy quest
#

8

grave summit
#

Need to download Kali.

#

Oh god

drowsy quest
#

1 byte = 8 bits

grave summit
#

My place has a top of 3megabits

leaden ocean
pastel grail
#

for file storage or bandwith? both of different SI units

hybrid loom
#

@vapid hedge Nah... I'm just a clone from him ;P

vapid hedge
hybrid loom
#

What

vapid hedge
#

lol

hybrid loom
#

You mentioned me, so I mention you 😛

vapid hedge
#

i know lol

drowsy quest
#

I need that emoji xD

#

Especially here

vapid hedge
#

sec

#

enjoy

drowsy quest
#

@twin warren

#

Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

#

ADD IT NAO

#

xD

vapid hedge
#

lmao

leaden ocean
#

Boiiii, it's 11pm

hybrid loom
#

*Slaps BrainStone*

#

12 for me

drowsy quest
#

slaps back

#

Oh you like it rough rawr

#

xD

pastel grail
#

oh go slap yourself 🤣

hybrid loom
#

I wish we had Birb here...

#

I want to give some hugs here...

potent prawn
lunar night
#

I just got a fraud prevention alert for my $30 pizza. o_O

leaden ocean
#

Hahaha

drowsy quest
#

GJ xD

lunar night
#

and my $7 breakfast this morning

grave summit
#

@pastel grail I need to download a 0.8GB file

#

So i need to rate for that

lunar night
#

least they didn't lock my account like that time when i worked at a gas station. they locked my account for "suspicious activity". i bought fuel from there, every 2 weeks, for 2 years and THAT time was suspicious.

pastel grail
#

Well depends on who your with, using mobile on 4G you should be getting anywhere between 5 - 50Mbit/s

#

depending on signal, if telco rate limits etc

grave summit
#

I'm on library wifi

pastel grail
#

... well its up to how the library throttles

grave summit
#

I give up

#

the download keeps on failing

#

due to network error

pastel grail
#

like i said, its up to how the library throttles

grave summit
#

FireFox?

#

Chromium?

#

Or Opera?

pastel grail
#

no, network level, router etc

grave summit
#

What do you prefer

#

Completely unrelated to download speeds rn

#

I asked what you prefer...

pastel grail
#

actually it is completley related to download speeds. If I place a QoS on a connection within my own network it will affect speeds

grave summit
#

I'm asking a different question.....

pastel grail
#

Which I did when my neighbours didn't have internet and I threw a eth cable over the back fence for them

#

me? to download wget 😛

#

to use to linux lol

grave summit
#

I use linux my self....

#

What browser do you use...

#

Im about to give up

pastel grail
#

lynx

grave summit
#

I'm being serious

#

I give up

pastel grail
#

as am i

grave summit
#

Right. So you use no graphical based web browsers?

pastel grail
#

most of the time i do

#

too busy within a CLI

#

and I said before, old school linux user

grave summit
#

Okay

drowsy quest
#

Text based browser are actually pretty neat I gotta admit

potent prawn
#

i can't even comprehend how that would look

pastel grail
#

at a guess your what - in your 20's or younger Nighko?

#

See I was online and mucking around with linux and the internet back in the days of dial up, where it was rare to get a speed higher then 50kbit

grave summit
#

?
Are you asking my age?

potent prawn
#

ew dial up

#

"mum get off the phone!"

pastel grail
#

lol yeah that is what most of my mates kids say lol

#

lol yeap i remember yelling that too

grave summit
#

I'm 15. I know that back in the day you guys had slow internet. I am here and now and everyone who says I'm lucky to be born now can go get stuffed for all I care. I am who I am not when I am.

#

Java 8 or nine

pastel grail
#

while the rest of the world was on cable at 1mbit where images loading had no issues for speed for a pretty piss poor speed of 40 odd kbit it was torture

#

hence - text based browser

grave summit
#

Everyone

pastel grail
#

JDK8

grave summit
#

Don't get Opera Neon

potent prawn
#

as a web developer, the thought of a text based browser scares me

pastel grail
#

...why?

drowsy quest
lunar night
#

what you guys think about waterfall as a bungeecord alternative?

drowsy quest
#

DO IT

potent prawn
#

I haven't heard much about Waterfall

pastel grail
#

if you don't need modded 1.7 support yes, waterfall for sure

lunar night
#

surprised to see it comes from the same people who made paperspigot, i think.

pastel grail
#

mhm

#

now you see why I love the luckperms wiki @drowsy quest

drowsy quest
#

Whatcha mean? xD

pastel grail
#

look at your own screenshot

drowsy quest
#

So many links?

#

Or is it irony?

pastel grail
#

no, cause ~95% of info via text based browser is actually readable

gilded nova
#

Is there a trading plugin for 1.12?

drowsy quest
#

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

#

lol

pastel grail
#

and you never answered why you hated a text based browser @potent prawn

drowsy quest
#

It might be a nice idea to implement the firefox engine (what was the name again???) on my WIP text based screen renderer

#

That would be pretty cool I bet

grave summit
#

Waterfox or Firefox

drowsy quest
#

Like everyything will be lowres but It'll still work

#

No I mean the engine

#

Was it gecko?

pastel grail
potent prawn
#

oh I thought you were saying "why" to something else.
I guess the fact that it's just something else to think about when developing sites for cross-browser responsiveness. I guess it's no different to developing with accessibility in mind (screen readers for blind people, for example)

grave summit
#
drowsy quest
#

I mean like a graphical browser for the CLI

#

Yeah. I knew it. Gecko!

grave summit
#

Theres no german translation

drowsy quest
#

Like mount my graphical CLI interface on Gecko

grave summit
#

sorry

drowsy quest
#

I speak English fluently

#

😛

#

Better than many natives xD

grave summit
#

Would it have been nicer if there was a German translation?

drowsy quest
#

Not really

grave summit
#

Oh

#

K

#

...

drowsy quest
#

I prefer my IT stuff in English

potent prawn
#

A lot of european people speak English better than most people from English speaking countries.

drowsy quest
#

English is a lot more stream line when it comes to expressing technical stuff, which is quite nice

grave summit
#

Brainy. Translate this for me: Das Leben ist großartig

I wanna see if its different from what google translate put in.

drowsy quest
#

While German typically allows you t create more precise wording it is rarely necessary. And only sometimes beneficial

#

Life's great

grave summit
#

Okay

pastel grail
#

..until you come across someone that swears black and blue that fahrenheit is superior to celsius

drowsy quest
#

xD

#

The only useful temperature unit is Kelvin

#

Everything else is just as bad as everything else

potent prawn
#

celcius master race

pastel grail
#

for physics Kelvin

drowsy quest
#

I'm not familiar with Fahrenheit but but both are arbitrary bullshit xD

pastel grail
#

"general" use for Joe Billy Bob down the street celsius

grave summit
#

...

#

I gtg in about 5 mins

#

Orthodontist appointment.

#

Damn useless braces

drowsy quest
#

I had them too

#

Not too useless tbh

#

A bit pricey though

#

Luckily insurance pays most here

grave summit
#

I also got a twin block appliance

#

Oh god, I can hear the library staff doing a little play/story for the kids

pastel grail
#

ahaha

grave summit
#

And they are talking about an mouse eating a bunch of different animal flavoured icecreams

#

Grufallo

#

i think thats the story

#

Gtg

#

bye

drowsy quest
#

bye

pastel grail
#

don't you just hate it when your typing away and suddenly the batts on your wireless keyboard go dead....

drowsy quest
#

That's why I refuse to use wireless stuff xD

somber quiver
#

My to

#

Haha

drowsy quest
#

Unless it has a charging port that also acts as a stand

pastel grail
#

it does, had to plug it in, prefer wireless though

drowsy quest
#

Wireless can be nice

#

Thaough I don't want to pay for the extra costs associated with good quality stuff, when I can get the same quality wired stuff for much cheaper

#

Also having a desktop renders many wireless appliances much less useful than with a tablet or laptop

pastel grail
#

For kids no way would I pay for wireless devices, they break them too easily. $15AUD keyboard for them as far as I am concerned lol

wind scarab
#

$40 for the K400r Wireless keyboard for my media pc 😛

pastel grail
#

media pc is a bit different, that is more or less acting like a remote

drowsy quest
#

true

wind scarab
#

Well.. it WAS for my media pc until I bought a Roku tv

#

now I control the whole thing with the tv remote

#

What kind of wireless keyboard you using Spanner?

pastel grail
#

Logitech G613

wind scarab
#

nice

#

I never understood the whole mechanical thing honestly lol

somber quiver
#

And Pay battery For you mouse and keyboard

drowsy quest
#

It clicks nicely

somber quiver
#

I an not haha

wind scarab
#

So... people get mechanical keyboards for the click?

#

<.<

pastel grail
#

No, mine doesn't "click" or i'm just use to it now

#

I got this because it doesn't have all that fancy crap that most other decent keyboards have. i don't need or want a display, i don't want or need a large number of macro keys etc. That was the only one that was wireless, was able to be used via USB if the batts died and able to work on linux without needing stupid software installed

somber quiver
#

Nice

lost geyser
#

Does anyone know what to do with the End? Should I just block access to the End? Or should I just leave the dragon to whoever wants to kill it? Can the dragon be reset?

drowsy quest
#

Dragons can be respawned

grave summit
#

Got my self $1 chips

#

$1 bag of candy

#

75 cent bottle of cola (Not coke)

drowsy quest
#

Not what I would call a decent meal, but whatever floats your boat

#

With 3€ I'd gone for a 2.50€ Döner :3

grave summit
#

Macca's doesn't have $1 burgers anymore

#

It just needs to feed me until 7:30pm

#

It's 12:14 pm now

drowsy quest
#

Might be tough

grave summit
#

I usually don't bring lunch to school because I can't be bothered

#

And I don't go home until 6:30ish

#

8-6

drowsy quest
#

Yeah

grave summit
#

About 10 hours

drowsy quest
#

I persnonally always feel a bit sad that the world mostly doesn't know about the god sent meal Döner

#

x3

grave summit
#

And what is a Döner

lost geyser
#

@drowsy quest Do you mean respawned using a plugin? I know little about the End tbh. More of a creative builder.

grave summit
#

@drowsy quest what's a döner

drowsy quest
#

@lost geyser no

grave summit
#

@lost geyser I'm pretty sure you can respawn the ender Dragon with vanilla. Normally

drowsy quest
#

Since some version (I.9, 1.10?) you can respawn the dragon with vanilla methods

lost geyser
#

Ill google it then. 🙂

drowsy quest
grave summit
#

@drowsy quest a sub. (subway)

drowsy quest
#

Similar to a sub or a wrap but better imo

grave summit
#

@drowsy quest stop

#

Your making me want it

drowsy quest
#

;-;

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Good :3

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Too bad you can't get it lol

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It's like THE German fast food

grave summit
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Why cant i. There's a German based takeaway across the road

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Brainy?

drowsy quest
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They might have it

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Though it's mostly only served by Turkish people

hybrid loom
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I like SubWay.

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Theit subs are really good

grave summit
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There are Turkish pide places nearby

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I can see two rn

drowsy quest
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Though it's not really Turkish

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It's sooo weird

grave summit
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Is it also called a kebab?

drowsy quest
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It has been invented by Turkish immigrants in Germany

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Yes

grave summit
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Already had it then

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Kebabs taste wonderful

drowsy quest
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The first thing is a Döner Kebab, the second a Döner Yufka

grave summit
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They aren't got sent though

drowsy quest
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I was just kidding ;P

grave summit
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More, devil sent then god

drowsy quest
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I could eat that stuff all day and get fat

grave summit
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@drowsy quest agreed

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What's the store you usually get it from called?

drowsy quest
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Like the actual place? or the general term

grave summit
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Place. Company

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Yuck! This cola taste like beer

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Don't ask how I know.

drowsy quest
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Like literally all places are small buisness

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There isn't a single chain afaik

grave summit
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Really? There is a chain called Ali baba in aus

drowsy quest
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There miiiiiiiiiiiiiiight be rare chains in big cities

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But people don't want their Döners cheap. They want them good

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And if one place is bad, they go to the one next door

grave summit
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Ali baba is usually expensive compared to the local ones

drowsy quest
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It's not rare to see literally 2-5 places within short walking distance

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All having tough competition

grave summit
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There's this local one that has awesome bread

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Though

drowsy quest
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Keeping the quality up high

grave summit
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It's not really local anymore

gilded nova
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You guys still talking

grave summit
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Yes @gilded nova we are talking about food

gilded nova
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Lmaoo i was about to say that

drowsy quest
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German food ❤

grave summit
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Multicultural food 🌎 🌍 🌏

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Each country has its own type of kebab really.

drowsy quest
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True

grave summit
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They have slight variations

drowsy quest
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Though the stuff is awesome

grave summit
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Anyway. I made $100 bucks without having to work

drowsy quest
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And I’ve also heard it’s picking up in the US too

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How so?

grave summit
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Im not going to drink.

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Alcohol.

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Until I'm 20

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It's really only 2 years

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18-20

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So in five years

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Unless my sister is in debt.

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I am getting $100

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I'm not going to drink alcohol my entire life though

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So is net bean good?

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@drowsy quest

drowsy quest
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Net bean?

grave summit
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Also, we need to convince luck to make a role called: The sleep deprived

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@drowsy quest it's an IDE

drowsy quest
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XD

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Ahhhh

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Never used it

grave summit
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Okay

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What U use

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V____ studio.?

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Can't remember the v word

drowsy quest
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Eclipse. Though just because that’s how I started and now I can’t be bothered with switching

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It visual studio

grave summit
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For C++...

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Not java

drowsy quest
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And how you’re making 100$?

grave summit
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I told you

drowsy quest
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By not drinking?

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How’s that?

grave summit
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If I don't drink alcohol until I'm 20 then my sister owes me $100

gilded nova
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what is this

grave summit
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If I do

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Then I owe her

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I'm not going to drink alcohol for my entire life

drowsy quest
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For C++ I use Visual Studio and Eclipse

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That’s good

grave summit
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Well

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Maybe on my death bed

drowsy quest
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Legal drinking age here is 16. Lower if you are around your parents and they consent

grave summit
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Legal here is 18

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Earlier of parents consent and private residence

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If*

drowsy quest
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So pretty similar

grave summit
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But they strongly suggest you don't give it to anyone under 15

drowsy quest
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I’ve had my first digestive at age 3 or 4 lol

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Had the intended effect

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Never touched alcohol until 18

grave summit
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I spat beer right out

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Its disgusting

drowsy quest
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And since I only drink rarely

grave summit
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Btw

drowsy quest
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The right beer can be pretty nice

grave summit
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Don't get generic cola

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It's sh**

drowsy quest
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Though I agree most taste bitter

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Lol I know

potent prawn
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i recommend not getting into alcohol until the legal age. i started when i was 16 (legal age is 18 here) and it wasn't good for school... haha

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gave up alcohol a year ago, that was a great decision.

grave summit
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@potent prawn your age?

potent prawn
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27, sorry that context probably would have helped 😂

grave summit
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I'm 15

drowsy quest
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Long way to go with that bet

grave summit
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Woah

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Mistyped

drowsy quest
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21

grave summit
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Brainy, I'm still sorry I thought you were 30

drowsy quest
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22 in a couple days

potent prawn
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sometimes it's a compliment when people think you're older than you actually are

drowsy quest
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I agree

grave summit
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Vote! Who hates apple and prefers android! (🇦 for Android 🅰 for apple)

drowsy quest
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I like people thinking of me as older online. Typically translates directly as more mature

potent prawn
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yup

grave summit
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O.O

potent prawn
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there's a 13 year old we just promoted to Helper on our server, she's actually far more mature than many people I know in their 20s lol

grave summit
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Brainy. You have an apple phone...

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I forgot about ghat

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That*

drowsy quest
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Yup

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I’m not an apple missionary though

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I think their stuff is better to use but way overpriced

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So I’ll stick with a phone lol

grave summit
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Ill only use an apple phone if it was a gift

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Unless the person died recently after the gift, I'd sell it in a year

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And get a better phone

drowsy quest
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Better is always a matter of personal preference and taste

grave summit
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I probably like android over apple because I was given android first

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It would probably be different if I got an apple phone first.

drowsy quest
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Maybe. I gave both a go

potent prawn
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I'm always surprised whenever I see a developer preferring apple

drowsy quest
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Leaving the price aside, because we all know it’s crazily overpriced, I feel like the UI and UE are much better designed and executed. So you get better UE with worse hardware

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And I totally understand that some people don’t value either as much as I do and value customization and freedom more

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And Android is for them

potent prawn
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Those last two are why I prefer Android

drowsy quest
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I thought so

grave summit
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@drowsy quest androids only downside is that it's slightly experimental and most companies put bloatware on them. But the upside is it's more customisable( a few more bugs than apple though)

drowsy quest
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It always boils down to what you value more. UI and UE or customization and freedom in usage and hardware

grave summit
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Brainy. Do you pen test systems at all?

drowsy quest
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And I personally side with customization and freedom way more. Except with my phone. Because I ain’t got the time and patience to customize the shit out of my phone. I just want to use it and have it work

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What’s pen testing again?

grave summit
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Hacking

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Ethically

drowsy quest
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Of course I do

grave summit
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Most people stereotype hacking as illegal. But it is legal as long as you do it on your own systems or get hired to(By the company your going to hack of course)

drowsy quest
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I gotta make sure the security I set up works

grave summit
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What do you use?

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Megasploit?

drowsy quest
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Like just recently I tried to brute force my SSH

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ncrack

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Never heard of the other though

grave summit
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Ncrack. Never heard of that

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Brainy, do you have time to teach me how to pen test systems.

drowsy quest
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Nope

grave summit
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And how to set them up securely

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Damnit

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Got any good sources.

drowsy quest
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I barely know how to that myself

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Setting up systems that are secure is pretty straightforward

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3 points are enough

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Firewall (that’s optional though prevents damage in case everything else fails)

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Secure your exposed services by using strong passwords. And key authentication whenever possible. Also allow SSH root access only with a key!

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And fail2ban to keep brute forcers out

grave summit
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Fail2ban?

drowsy quest
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Detects failed login attempts and temporarily blocks access to the service in question by blocking their IP for some time

drowsy quest
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Very versatile and highly configurable

potent prawn
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is that a form of anti-ddos or would you use something else for that?

drowsy quest
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After a few attempts you can no longer connect for a few minutes

grave summit
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I think bruteforcing is overwhelming the the system

drowsy quest
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It’s a for of anti brute force

grave summit
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@drowsy questis that your server?

drowsy quest
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That (d)dos