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drowsy quest
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Yep

rich roost
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Like I said before, Windows Server is only useful for group policy, active directory services, and volume licensing.

Panels are... okay if you are sure you don't want to learn Linux and have hired a sys admin to take care of the machine

strong mountain
drowsy quest
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Weird error

strong mountain
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it popped up on my bungee console

limber harness
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[22:15:16] [Server thread/ERROR]: Could not load 'plugins/LuckPerms-Bukkit-3.2.20.jar' in folder 'plugins'
org.bukkit.plugin.InvalidPluginException: Cannot find main class `me.lucko.luckperms.bukkit.LPBukkitPlugin'
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.<init>(PluginClassLoader.java:191) ~[PluginClassLoader.class:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.loadPlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:145) ~[JavaPluginLoader.class:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.loadPlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:334) ~[SimplePluginManager.class:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.loadPlugins(SimplePluginManager.java:256) [SimplePluginManager.class:?]
at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_7_R4.CraftServer.loadPlugins(CraftServer.java:320) [CraftServer.class:?]
at net.minecraft.world.storage.SaveHandler.initBukkitData(SaveHandler.java:458) [ayq.class:?]
at net.minecraft.world.storage.SaveHandler.func_75757_d(SaveHandler.java:136) [ayq.class:?]
at net.minecraft.world.World.<init>(World.java:350) [ahb.class:?]
at net.minecraft.world.WorldServer.<init>(WorldServer.java:153) [mt.class:?]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71247_a(MinecraftServer.java:356) [MinecraftServer.class:?]
at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.func_71197_b(DedicatedServer.java:329) [lt.class:?]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:620) [MinecraftServer.class:?]
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745) [?:1.7.0_131]

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Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Failed to remap class me.lucko.luckperms.bukkit.LPBukkitPlugin
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.remappedFindClass(PluginClassLoader.java:488) ~[PluginClassLoader.class:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:409) ~[PluginClassLoader.class:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:211) ~[PluginClassLoader.class:?]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:425) ~[?:1.7.0_131]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:358) ~[?:1.7.0_131]
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) ~[?:1.7.0_131]
at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:278) ~[?:1.7.0_131]
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.<init>(PluginClassLoader.java:189) ~[PluginClassLoader.class:?]
... 12 more

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Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException
at org.objectweb.asm.ClassReader.<init>(Unknown Source) ~[asm-all-4.1.jar:4.1]
at org.objectweb.asm.ClassReader.<init>(Unknown Source) ~[asm-all-4.1.jar:4.1]
at org.objectweb.asm.ClassReader.<init>(Unknown Source) ~[asm-all-4.1.jar:4.1]
at net.md_5.specialsource.RemapperProcessor.process(RemapperProcessor.java:83) ~[RemapperProcessor.class:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.remappedFindClass(PluginClassLoader.java:444) ~[PluginClassLoader.class:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:409) ~[PluginClassLoader.class:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:211) ~[PluginClassLoader.class:?]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:425) ~[?:1.7.0_131]
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:358) ~[?:1.7.0_131]
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) ~[?:1.7.0_131]
at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:278) ~[?:1.7.0_131]
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.<init>(PluginClassLoader.java:189) ~[PluginClassLoader.class:?]
... 12 more

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why ?

digital phoenix
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https://hasteb.in -> https://hastebin.com -> https://paste.md-.net -> https://gist.github.com -> https://pastebin.com are all valid sites to post your spammy logs to

limber harness
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@leaden ocean up pls

leaden ocean
limber harness
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I'll try thank you very much

leaden ocean
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Just to check, is this thermos or bukkit/craftbukkit?

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@limber harness

limber harness
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craftbukkit

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but it does't work

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Could not load 'plugins/LuckPerms-Bukkit-Legacy-3.2.67.jar' in folder 'plugins'

leaden ocean
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Can you upload your whole start up log to gist.github.com and paste the link here please.

limber harness
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(It'isn't my server)

leaden ocean
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ah, with craftbukkit, I'm wondering if you need to update the special source in order for it to work. If you do, that's annoying. For instructions on how to do that, check pinned items in #support-1. I posted a fix for it.

soft sparrow
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Best announce plugin?

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For spigot

leaden ocean
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I really like MessageAnnouncer

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Json formatting

soft sparrow
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hmm, if im not right you can use hotbar for messages with json right?

digital phoenix
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thats ActionAnnouncer iirc

strong mountain
gilded nova
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Looks like a plugin issue @strong mountain

strong mountain
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Anyway to tell which one?

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Besidea removing them all

gilded nova
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There should be more of a log, sometimes the messages will have the structure @strong mountain
like com.indieguts.bungeemotd.Main

strong mountain
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So i should look at the logs then

gilded nova
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@strong mountain server version?

strong mountain
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1.12.1

gilded nova
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from what I'm reading, they had sign exploits doing this (Patched ages ago)

strong mountain
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Hmmm

gilded nova
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So far everyone's solution is "Updating to the latest build"

strong mountain
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Thats what ime at lol

gilded nova
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People were fighting in this thread I found from corrupted chunk, to sign glitch, and rolling back the broken area

strong mountain
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Lol

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Sonits basically a corruption somewhere on the server?

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So its*

gilded nova
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If it's a corrupted chunk, players will get kicked around the area, and won't be able to login @strong mountain

strong mountain
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So spawn...lol

gilded nova
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Also your server will crash when it's loaded

strong mountain
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It started to crash when players would attack mobs then i updated and tjat got fixed now its this issue

leaden ocean
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Is that your bungee log? We need your server log to see what is crashing it.

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Well we need your server crash log more specifically.

strong mountain
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Yeah Thats the bungee

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K let me link

gilded nova
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Hey @strong mountain remember my old Skyblock server?

strong mountain
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yeah

gilded nova
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I sold it πŸ˜›

strong mountain
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lol

gilded nova
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Dude changed everything about it, including the amazing builds...

strong mountain
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wow

gilded nova
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Sold it for $25, dude still owes me 1/2 of it

leaden ocean
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The fact that people buy setup servers is lost on me

gilded nova
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@leaden ocean because they're lazy shits πŸ˜‚

leaden ocean
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Indeed :/ but $25 is really cheap

gilded nova
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I made premade servers whenever I have a VPS and I'm wanting to make a server, because it's simple something fun to do

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The one I'm working on right now, I'm selling for $50

leaden ocean
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I have a build reserved for a server which cost me $25, so $25 for a full server is really good.

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What is the $50 server going to include?

strong mountain
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also i just got a luckperms error when a player tried to join 😦

gilded nova
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That's normal, for me at least @strong mountain

leaden ocean
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Can you send me the full start up log?

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Your server might just need a restart

strong mountain
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for?

gilded nova
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5 custom islands (Same types, different sizes, are selected at random when doing /is)
Custom control panel (/is controlpanel aka is cp aka is)
Island Upgrades (Islands start as 25x25, they use special tokens to upgrade range)
Large spawn (250x250? (Guessing))
Wall Generators
Custom ore gens
Custom ASkyblock fly plugin (made by me)
etc

leaden ocean
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That server which luckperms isn't loading the data on

gilded nova
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@leaden ocean wanna come look at it?

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How to kill a linux screen...

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I opened a screen inside a screen so it's glitching πŸ˜‚

leaden ocean
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Hmm, what version of mc? My vanilla launcher is borked.

gilded nova
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1.11.2 I think (Loaded the wrong jar, suppose to be 1.12)

leaden ocean
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Alright. Send me the IP via pm

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I'll jump on as soon as I get a little launcher up since curse and vanilla seem to hate me.

gilded nova
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same, and curse has died πŸ˜›

leaden ocean
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I meant twitch*

gilded nova
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yeah, same things though, they're owned by the same people

strong mountain
gilded nova
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I wonder how much they sold out for πŸ˜‰

strong mountain
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so thats the crash report from yesterday

gilded nova
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bukkit & curse

strong mountain
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when a player got kicked today it didnt throw an error on the server console just on the bungee console

gilded nova
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Also, gotta love how Nintendo is copyrighting the Pixelmon mod, and taking down hacked clients because they contain Minecraft's code

leaden ocean
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that's odd... luckperms hasn't detected vault on your server, TK1

strong mountain
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Yeah

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No idea why though

gilded nova
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@leaden ocean come check it out ;p Just rebooted the server

leaden ocean
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I will once I get my launcher semi-functional πŸ˜›

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TK1, can you do /vault-info and send the output?

strong mountain
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I cant right now...about to passout but tomorrow morning i can...if you could send me pm asking me that so i can remember that would be awesome

gilded nova
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I would check the server myself, but I don't remember if you ever gave me your FTP information

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When I helped you a while ago

digital phoenix
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@leaden ocean MagicLauncher is bae.

leaden ocean
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I didn't even know that was a thing

digital phoenix
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its rather old, but it still works

strong mountain
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@gilded nova i cant remember if i did or not...but if your up when im off work we can check it out

soft sparrow
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is there a command to clear META for playerS?

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I want my players to be able to buy TITLES for ingame money, but I cant do so they can change title the old one is still there πŸ˜ƒ

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using prefix for this

leaden ocean
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remove the prefix using /lp user <user> meta removeprefix <priority> Other than that, you'd have to remove ALL meta using /lp user <user> meta clear

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but, if prefix is the only meta directly assigned to the users, clear should be fine

soft sparrow
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Im using GROUP prefix for the rest, so atm im not using specific meta for users.

So i should be able to "give them prefix" and if they want a new one buy pressing a button I add two commands. first: meta clear, Second: meta addprefix again.

leaden ocean
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correct, that should be fine. but test it before throwing it on a production server

soft sparrow
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πŸ˜ƒ

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i did use the commands in the chat and it works

leaden ocean
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if it is done by a button, I'm curious as to whether the clear command removes the new meta as well

soft sparrow
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nah its done by talking to npc, json book commands πŸ˜ƒ

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dont know if I can run two commands tho

torpid leaf
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merjilin

soft sparrow
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damn i cna just run one command at the time xD

grave summit
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What idiot does math at 1AM besides me?

drowsy quest
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Me :3

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Math is fun

unreal igloo
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*Meth

drowsy quest
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No math πŸ˜›

supple stirrup
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Can someone help me with a scoreboard code async? how do I make the scoreboard async like update eery 4 seconds or a time that doesnt affect the server using the update scoreboard code, never done this before and the scoreboard works like it should but only updates on player join event

supple stirrup
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how do I make my scoreboard async?

grave summit
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@drowsy quest

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I'm now a retired staff member on a server. I feel old....

drowsy quest
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Awwww

supple stirrup
bleak notch
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Because you need to close the scheduler

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@supple stirrup

supple stirrup
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?

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thought I did

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how do I do that?

bleak notch
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After 20L); put a }

supple stirrup
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oki will try

drowsy quest
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@supple stirrup you forgot a closing } after the if

supple stirrup
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sorry forgot that wasnt the full code of the instance

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public void onEnable() {
instance = this;
Manager.register();
BukkitScheduler scheduler = getServer().getScheduler();
scheduler.scheduleSyncRepeatingTask(this, new Runnable() {
@Override
public void run() {
if (Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().length != 0) {
ScoreboardManager.updateScoreboard();
}
}, 0L, 20L);
commands();
this.setupPermissions();
this.setupChat();
this.optimize();
}

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@drowsy quest

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the if instane is closed

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but the one before ,0L just gets red

drowsy quest
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Add one more

supple stirrup
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after wich one?

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oh fixed it

drowsy quest
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Told you the if wasn't closed πŸ˜›

supple stirrup
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my scoreboard still just updated on the player join event, my ezqueue scoreoard is so hard to make ;_;

drowsy quest
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I don't know much about scoreboards

grave summit
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@supple stirrup I pray to god you have tried googling it

supple stirrup
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I have

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but no answea, proabably paperspigot sucks

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ass

grave summit
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Why did you copy an answer from stack overflow?

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@supple stirrup

supple stirrup
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?

grave summit
supple stirrup
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I did copy from there

grave summit
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From where?

supple stirrup
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public void onEnable() {
instance = this;
Manager.register();
BukkitScheduler scheduler = getServer().getScheduler();
scheduler.scheduleSyncRepeatingTask(this, new Runnable() {
@Override
public void run() {
if (Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().length != 0) {
ScoreboardManager.updateScoreboard();
}
}
}, 0L, 20L);
commands();
this.setupPermissions();
this.setupChat();
this.optimize();

}
grave summit
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That looks exactly like the answer on stack overflow. Did you copy it from stack overflow or bukkit?

supple stirrup
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bukkit

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and I'm trying to make a ezqueue scoreboard, so when they queue it changes scoreboard, but it needs to get updated but only happens when the player jons

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joins*

supple stirrup
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?

grave summit
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The gamepedia post wasn't updated for a year

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Could be outdated?that's the spigot page

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Or its the setting the data on the scoreboard that isnt working.

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Anyway

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Gnight

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Hope I helped a little

supple stirrup
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for the scoreboard

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if someone has better solution please send me it, I would like to have my scoreboard like Arcane so if they are in a ezqueue queue then use the queue scoreboard while if they leave queueu or isnt in a queue use standard scoreboard without queueu

gilded nova
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If you could ask a fortune teller one question, what would it be

gilded nova
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Ima get banned because of this stupid thread πŸ˜‚

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Awwww shit thread closed

rich roost
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@gilded nova you are asking for trouble with that topic...

gilded nova
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@rich roost it was someone elses thread, I was just joining in the shit talking

rich roost
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Fire with fire creates an even bigger fire

supple stirrup
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Lol

drowsy quest
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America - The land of the intelligence and education free

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πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

torpid leaf
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Was the best email provider

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With shared email and multiple users feature

drowsy quest
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?

supple stirrup
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Does Communitybridge work with this permissions plugin?

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Can someone suggest me plugins that I can change the forums rank from in-game and sync them

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I have minesync but it feels like it doesn't work properly

soft sparrow
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Someone who knows where i can get a hacked minecraft launcher/client whatever. need to test the security on my server ^^

supple stirrup
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@soft sparrow that kind of securry?

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Security

soft sparrow
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i wnat to know if it possible to login with a hacked client with a changed name

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πŸ˜ƒ

supple stirrup
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Oh it works of it's under bungee

soft sparrow
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im using bungee

supple stirrup
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Without protection

twin warren
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make sure your proxy is in online mode

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and that your backend servers are firewalled

supple stirrup
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Using onlyproxyjoin or ipwhitelist if you're going more secure block all incoming connection that's not the ip

soft sparrow
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hmm

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advanced stuff xD

soft sparrow
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dont get it how they looged in with my name xD

polar peak
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@soft sparrow in a network setup if your security is not tight. It is possible to bypass the bungee and connect straight to one of the servers behind it, being as these servers have to run in offline mode to work with bungee it won't even check to see if the player name connecting is valid. (Although I've tested and noticed now a days of setup right it will say wtf is your uuid info)

soft sparrow
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forgot the firewall part so they connect thrue their own bungee xD

drowsy quest
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I generally only let the servers behind the bunge listen to localhost. Then nothing can happen

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Also I remember there being a whitelist plugin that whitelists IPs in case you need to allow external access to the server

rich roost
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@supple stirrup i don't think so but it is open source

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you could add the support yourself because i'm looking to do that

supple stirrup
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well, since I think I need to add api and hcange the sourcecode I cant be asssed to do it atm

rich roost
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it wouldn't be that hard

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because right now we're doing it and my developer says its easy to add

supple stirrup
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may I get a copy? @rich roost

rich roost
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I'll try to publish it on my GitHub @supple stirrup

supple stirrup
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ALRIGHT

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ops

gilded nova
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been a while since I've showed up here..

drowsy quest
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Converting a YAML config to a HOCON config is the worst thing in like every FML

twin warren
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ew

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hocon

drowsy quest
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I use the config lib, which allows me to automatically migrate and update the config

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Which many many many people have complained about

twin warren
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but why switch from yaml

drowsy quest
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Haven't found a decent lib that supports preserving comments etc

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Also I personally like HOCON more. Has a lot more features

twin warren
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the lack of editor support makes me dislike it

drowsy quest
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A basic text editor is good enough xD

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I mean the format is pretty new. Support will come with popularity of the format

twin warren
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syntax highlighting makes a huge difference.

drowsy quest
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A JSON highlighter should do

twin warren
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nope

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because it's not the same as json

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no brackets for a start

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I'm talking about more than just highlighting

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a lot of editors will highlight errors

drowsy quest
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Hm ok

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I get what you mean

twin warren
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for example

drowsy quest
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Still I need to be able to add new keys to the config without the user having to migrate the configs manually (what I currently do) and with keeping the comments

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HOCON would accept that as valid though

twin warren
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right, I know

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you get my point though

drowsy quest
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I do. I think you get mine too

twin warren
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yes

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I hate snakeyaml

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useless library

drowsy quest
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Yeah

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Do you use one that preserves comments?

twin warren
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nope

drowsy quest
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Ok

twin warren
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i actually dislike bukkits config api in general

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the whole process of (de)serialization is painful to write

drowsy quest
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Sponge's is pretty nice I think

twin warren
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i'm not used to configurates method names

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and it has literally no javadocs

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gson is probably my favourite

drowsy quest
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I'm using the original HOCON library. Very well documented

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And uses an immutable model which is good for a lot of things

twin warren
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mhm

drowsy quest
twin warren
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this is generally what I use whenever I have to serialize stuff

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I usually prefer to write the behaviour myself, as opposed to using an ORM

drowsy quest
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That's fair

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Luckily I only have to write the tedious migration code once

twin warren
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for configs?

drowsy quest
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Yes

twin warren
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yeah, I just don't bother πŸ˜ƒ

drowsy quest
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I mean the code from YAML to HOCON

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the rest happens automatically

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Since I read the default config file from the jar and use that as a fallback

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And then write the config back to file

twin warren
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the system in LP is type agonistic

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which is nice

drowsy quest
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Mind to quickly explain what that means?

twin warren
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A platform agnostic product runs equally well across more than one platform.

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maybe that was the wrong phrase to describe what I meant

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it's abstract, maybe that makes more sense

drowsy quest
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Ah. So you can mount any configuration type on top?

twin warren
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as in, the serialization works for both Bukkit/Bungee/Configurate

drowsy quest
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Just need an adapter for it

twin warren
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yep, exactly that

drowsy quest
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Ok. That's not bad

twin warren
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for example

drowsy quest
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And I've gotta say taht you don't really need a config that can add keys by itself since you rarely add any

twin warren
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well, there was a period where it was fairly common

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however, it's mostly new options, not replacement ones

drowsy quest
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Yeah

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In BungeeChat we constantly add new options to the config

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And it bothered like 95% of people

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Which I totally can understand. It bothered me too

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And using this lib is my answer to that

twin warren
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mhm

drowsy quest
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Super straight forward

leaden ocean
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couldn't you just add a note on the newer releases like "You will need to add randomoption: value to your config", or are people really that lazy?

drowsy quest
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It's usually a lot more than that. Sometimes we add several modules (20+ keys)

leaden ocean
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Ohhhh

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well fair enough then

drowsy quest
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The way I did it was copy the new config to config.new.yml and tell the user that their config is outdated and they should migrate their settings to the new one

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(And rename it)

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Which was tedious

drowsy quest
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Side note: I love project lombok ❀

twin warren
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same

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I did notice one thing in the links you posted

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y not try-with-resources?

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that's the one lombok annotation I don't really understand / like

drowsy quest
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@Cleanup wraps the code in a try-finally block and closes the the resource in the finally block. Very useful

polar peak
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Ive seen a few plugins start with a config version number, and they just add the new things in based on that.

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Never tried it myself but thought about it.

drowsy quest
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There are always issues with YAML with that

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Especially with the way our config is structured

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HOCON is a billion times better for that

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Or at least the lib we use

twin warren
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I know what @Cleanup does, i just don't see the point

drowsy quest
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It's a nice way to make sure a resource gets closed in any case

supple stirrup
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@rich roost done?

gilded nova
drowsy quest
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It's a stackOverflow exception

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If it is your plugin you're causing another damage event which gets handled by you again here: sx.mxs.onepunch.OpmCommand.onPlayerDamage(OpmCommand.java:94) @gilded nova

gilded nova
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@drowsy quest so it's beacuse I have the damage part and it's just re-doing it over and over?

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so I should switch the event to be damagedbyentity

drowsy quest
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You shouldn't trigger a new damage event

gilded nova
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I want the player to still get the red animation thing

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but not take damage

drowsy quest
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Then you have to have code in place that will ignore the second event with presumably 0 damage

gilded nova
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Okay thx

gilded nova
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@gilded nova I use Eclipse πŸ˜›

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@gilded nova cuz u have to

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true lol

gilded nova
iron sphinx
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Report for what??

gilded nova
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Look at all that spam... complete junk

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Also for premium requirements of course...
"Well indeed i am trying to get premium resource access But i was still trying to help people but i see now that not all people understand"

He wasn't helping anyone with those junk 10 worded replies...

drowsy quest
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@Mas21#9671 I never said that eclipse is better πŸ˜›

gilded nova
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@gilded nova * and it's for the meme's I guess πŸ˜›

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Oh you can't mention him o.0 fixed it...?

drowsy quest
#

I guess it's because I'm on my phone

gilded nova
#

@drowsy quest it happened to me too when I tried mentioning them from "Recent Messages" I had to manually click their name and press "Mention" and it just added an extra space at the end of their name...

drowsy quest
#

It's a bit buggy recently

gilded nova
#

@drowsy quest just blame the new updates ;P My Discord crashes whenever I try to screen share

drowsy quest
#

Lol

gilded nova
#

@drowsy quest you should let me get your opinions on some things :P
What domain provider do you recommend
What Minecraft hosting do you recommend
What VPS/Dedicated hosting do you reccomend
& why lol

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I want my 1,000'th post to be something useful lmao so ima make another one of those overly-made "Server Tips / Guide" posts lmao

twin warren
#

namecheap ftw

gilded nova
#

^ EXACTLY

twin warren
#

their support is excellent

gilded nova
#

I use NameCheap for my domains, yeah their support is awesome, and their twitter support is fun to chat with πŸ˜‚

twin warren
#

and vps hosting, linode I guess

drowsy quest
#

Namecheap. Cheap and great support.
I host everything myself
OVH and SoYouStart (and Kimsufi) because good machines, fair prices and great support

#

@gilded nova

gilded nova
#

Sup @drowsy quest

#

I'm always stalking Discord, I'm a #NoLife gamer ;p

drowsy quest
#

There's my opinion. Imma go relaxing for a bit

#

I'm a relaxation junky xD

gilded nova
#

kk πŸ˜› I'll make sure to give credits in my thread of course

drowsy quest
#

Alright

gilded nova
#

Happy almost-birthday LuckPerms! πŸ˜„ (Release date on SpigotMC anyways...)

#

It's turning 1 😒 You must be a proud father @twin warren

twin warren
#

20th right?

#

yeah

#

20th

#

probably going to release the latest set of dev changes then

#

since they seem stable

gilded nova
#

awesome, got nothing special planned though? πŸ˜› If there's a party I better be invited πŸ˜‚

twin warren
#

lol

#

i wrote that wiki page

#

been being to do it for a while

#

it's a really powerful system, just kinda complicated to use

gilded nova
gilded nova
#

Already got 1 infomative rate! πŸ˜„ That's a record for me πŸ˜‚

gilded nova
#

Also how do you like how I described LuckPerms? πŸ˜› I described it pretty simply...

#

Just an FYI Luck, your image hosting is down (Was looking at your website)

twin warren
#

has been for months

gilded nova
#

Oh πŸ˜› Why not fix it?

#

I've been trying to find a software like imgur, but instead I've been using YetiShare + Media Plugins

drowsy quest
#

@gilded nova mind to add BungeeChatt to the list of recommended plugins? πŸ˜‰

gilded nova
#

@drowsy quest link me it, I've never used it, first I wanna check it out ;p

drowsy quest
gilded nova
#

The plugins I put on there are pretty much the bone-essentials for servers

#

Doesn't Luck have a bungee chat plugin, so shouldn't I recommend his instead? πŸ˜‰

drowsy quest
#

Up to you

gilded nova
#

lmao click the hyperlink "BungeeCord Chat API" I wanted to see what it was πŸ˜›

drowsy quest
#

I have no idea why shawn put so many dead links there

gilded nova
#

It's not him, I think.. it says someone else took it over?

drowsy quest
#

No. He still manages the thread

#

And I joined with developing the plugin

gilded nova
#

I'm guessing for thread design, but it's stupid.. ._.

drowsy quest
#

BungeeChat has become my little baby xD

gilded nova
#

Also I suggested ChatControl, and chat control has all of it's features except.. HelpOp

#

which could easily be added using a command rule....

#

Mineplex developer knows what he's doing πŸ˜‚

#

or was it the other dev that;s the Mineplex dev..

drowsy quest
#

Difference is BungeeChat is for BungeeCord

gilded nova
#

ChatControl is Bungee too

#

I keep getting Konsolas and Kangarko confused XD

#

The AAC dev is the bad one to me lmao

#

ChatControl dev is bae

#

New chunk added to my thread, don't know how I forgot...

Learn To Read
Here's a large amount of advice.. If you don't read a wiki, or a SpigotMC page to
learn more about the plugin, and ask other people how to fix things constantly, you'll never be a good owner. There's tons of people that constantly ask to be spoon-fed information,
and answers. Don't be one of those people, read a wiki,
use google, don't go straight to asking for help...

drowsy quest
#

Can you make that paragraph like font size 1000? and bold and flashing?

#

xD

gilded nova
#

lmfao @drowsy quest I put it near the top ;p

#

Although if there were no more lazy or stupid server owners, how would I make money from setting up VPS's...

drowsy quest
#

lol

rich roost
#

@gilded nova how is the aac dev bad?

drowsy quest
#

aac stands for what btw? xD

rich roost
#

Advanced anti cheat

drowsy quest
#

Ahhh

rich roost
#

One of the best anti cheat plugins out there

drowsy quest
#

For Spigot xD

rich roost
#

^

drowsy quest
#

Sponge doesn't really have a good one as far as I know

leaden ocean
#

I did see an anti cheat plugin for sponge on ore a while back

drowsy quest
#

It's being developed and isn't released

rich roost
#

Never really tried sponge because I don't understand the concept of it

drowsy quest
#

It's essentially the same as Spigot

leaden ocean
#

but for modded mc

drowsy quest
#

Not necesarily

leaden ocean
#

well... I wouldn't recommend someone use sponge vanilla over spigot tbh

drowsy quest
#

It was designed to work wioth forge though

rich roost
#

Does the client have to have mods or only the server?

drowsy quest
#

Depends on the mods

rich roost
#

Let's say... minimap?

drowsy quest
#

Server only is ok

#

I have Journeymap on my server

#

I control clients with Journeymap with that

#

What they can and can't do

rich roost
#

Oh that's actually pretty cool, so I could have a ctf server with a minimap installed on the server (sponge) and the user doesn't have to have anything installed?

drowsy quest
#

No

#

But if they have the minimap installed you can control what the client sees

rich roost
#

Ah

drowsy quest
#

But the client needs to see have the minimap installed in order to see it though

rich roost
#

Got it, maybe in the future somehow the server will only need to have mods I hope

drowsy quest
#

Sponge hope to make that happen one day

rich roost
#

I think that'll be cool because some players aren't really the brightest

drowsy quest
#

So the client only needs to have a clientside sponge mod installed

rich roost
#

Yeah I would definitely add a sponge server if that happens

drowsy quest
#

Also Sponge is a good choice if you're running a modpack

rich roost
#

Mhm

leaden ocean
#

well, in order to have mods only server side, forge themselves would have to do some serious overhauling, not sponge

#

jeysus. The amount of posts on the sponge forums about help with PEX is quite impressive

drowsy quest
#

Answer to all: Use LP

#

xD

supple stirrup
#

ye

supple stirrup
#

can someone make comunitybridge compatable with luckperms?

drowsy quest
#

Out of interest, what's not working with it?

supple stirrup
drowsy quest
#

Ah

#

I see

supple stirrup
#

@drowsy quest can you make a jar that works with luckperms using the src of communitybridge?`

drowsy quest
#

I probably could but I don't have time for it

#

Sorry

leaden ocean
#

Why on earth wouldn't it work? Surely they would just use the bukkit api to get the group rather than doing anything special?

supple stirrup
#

idk

#

havent tested it

#

since I dont have a secondary xenforo website for dev

leaden ocean
#

Hmm, neither do I, else I would test it

#

But there is really no reason for it not to work as intended

strong mountain
#

so im having an issue with one of my servers, everytime a player hits a mob he gets kicked, i get an error: java.lang.NullPointerException

gilded nova
#

Put the stack trace in chat

strong mountain
#

Thats the only thing i get

bleak notch
#

@strong mountain screenshot??

strong mountain
#

I can link the entire log if youd like

bleak notch
#

do you use Reflex anticheat??

#

@strong mountain

strong mountain
#

Yes

bleak notch
#

thats your issue

strong mountain
#

???

bleak notch
#

there is a issue with reflex when players sent a badpackets and that kicks them with the error

strong mountain
#

Ahh...so i should bring it up to them?

bleak notch
#

yes

strong mountain
#

Cause the people getting kicked are staff

#

Ao i know their not hacking

#

So

bleak notch
#

what you can do is regen all the Reflex files after you have updated Reflex

#

if you havent done it

strong mountain
#

Ok...so after the next update regen the config?

#

Cause as of right now im fully up to date

bleak notch
#

oke what you can do is sent them a msg

strong mountain
#

Kk will do...thanks for the help

gilded nova
#

Do ya guys know the rules on leaking plugins, using leaked plugins, cracking plugins?

#

Tons of people have used leaked plugins - not banned on SpigotMC
Tons of people have cracked plugins - ItzSomebody has a YT guide on it - not banned on SpigotMC
Tons of people cracked & leaked plugins - never heard of anyone getting banned

twin warren
#

as far as I know, they only issue bans if you upload leaked plugins on spigotmc

gilded nova
#

Ah, and I think they're not too hard on it because;

  • SpigotMC doesn't make any cash from purchases
  • It's the developers job to secure their own plugin
    SpigotMC is pretty much just a place to share, it's not a super large company with crazy antipiracy methods
polar peak
#

Honestly though. If you know what your doing you can bypass any protection on a plugin..

#

Really the best bet is to make it require info from an external source that needs a proper auth key.. but I mean with enough time someone could write that out.

drowsy quest
#

I mean Premium plugins are screaming to be leaked and cracked

#

You'd need to put some heavy obfuscation and more alongside that auth key

#

and even then people with experience with obfuscated code will simply disable the check

polar peak
#

Yeah like I said anyone that knows what they are doing can get around almost anything

#

They even make apps to get past the obfuscation.

twin warren
#

you're not allowed auth keys

polar peak
#

What do you mean? Spigot doesn't allow that type of protection?

twin warren
#

All resources must run directly from downloaded file without any manual installation steps or internet access. This means that licensing systems of any form are prohibited.

gilded nova
#

The basic SpigotMC built in anti piracy method is extremely easy to crack, two steps

Then there's ones like EpicWorldGen, FeatherBoard, etc that have their own license system, and they can remote disable them, themselves

twin warren
#

so long as they don't need internet access

#

it's fine

gilded nova
#

Yeah, the simplest anti-piracy for most people is the type that blocks all access to their servers

#

However if someone were to open the code (E.x. the developer) then they'd be able to see who purchased the plugin, if they didn't remove the ID in the code

#

I haven't cracked plugins for anyone (or myself), but I've been looking at how plugins work, and I'm guessing EWG's has something to do with a PayPal purchase code or something...

#

^ One of the most overpriced plugins for how extremely buggy it is

rich roost
#

Doesn't mvdw have a licensing system? Might be mistaken

gilded nova
#

Yeah he does, I believe anyways πŸ€” I've seen it I believe..

#

I've never purchased any of his plugins, so I can't tell, the cracked ones always remove it..

drowsy quest
#

Does anyone know if BungeeCord comes with an h2 or SQLLite driver?

#

(Ping me for answer please)

twin warren
#

mysql

#

@drowsy quest @drowsy quest @drowsy quest @drowsy quest @drowsy quest @drowsy quest

drowsy quest
#

lol

twin warren
#

mysql only, I should say

drowsy quest
#

No I meant if I want to use a file based database if I need to package it myself

#

Ok

#

So yes

#

H2 is better than SQLite?

twin warren
#

i think so

#

they're both pretty similar

drowsy quest
#

Ok

#

I'm thinking about rewriting userstorage when I already rewrote the config

gilded nova
#

I don't get it... @drowsy quest

gilded nova
#

It's similar to Skript I'm guessing, or is it actual java?

grave summit
#

Looks like Java to me

drowsy quest
#

It's the.m comment

#

Remove kebab

#

Know your memes! @gilded nova

gilded nova
#

Know your place @drowsy quest , it's in the kitchen! jk lol I'm not sexist

#

& you're not a girl so that joke doesn't really work 🀷

drowsy quest
#

I was about to say πŸ˜›

gilded nova
#

Does that look like it's smiling? πŸ˜‚

drowsy quest
#

Yes 😜

grave summit
#

@gilded nova Not at first

#

Bit then you realise

#

But*

torpid leaf
#

@drowsy quest

#

do you know how to fix conneection reset by peer

gilded nova
#

@TheJam#7750 when is it happening?

#

some people...
I may have asked to be spoon-fed a few times, but holy shit people can't help themselves sometimes πŸ˜‚
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/266832

#

All he needed was a BlockBreakEvent, BlockPlaceEvent (& possibly a PlayerInteractEvent) ... -.-

devout beacon
#

What economy plugins are people running for sponge?

drowsy quest
#

I can have a look later

#

XD

#

Something like SimpleEconomy or EconomyLite

devout beacon
#

decided to run economy lite, thanks guys πŸ˜ƒ

drowsy quest
#

πŸ‘

#

I knew it was one of the two xD

scenic plaza
#

Is there any better plugin for sponge to check server status like I want to check how many chunks,entities,tiles entities is loaded?

devout beacon
#

what shop plugin are you guys running?

polar peak
#

@devout beacon I run shopchests

gilded nova
#

LuckPerms crashed my new server πŸ’” (Crashed while loading [H2] drivers (Out Of Memory))

polar peak
#

Oh noes

gilded nova
#

What's something that makes you guys trust & untrust a download site (Currently working on one)

#

#first to add LuckPerms icon rating to the 1 year announcement lmao

drowsy quest
#

Untrustworthy thing number one: Ads everywhere

#

@gilded nova

gilded nova
#

πŸ˜‚ welp then my website is extremely untrusty lmao @drowsy quest

#

I've made $0.10 in the last 6 hours 🀷

drowsy quest
#

And the second thing: Stolen content

gilded nova
#

How do ya mean @drowsy quest

#

leaked content?

drowsy quest
#

Ever heard of sites like 9minecraft?

gilded nova
#

Ah, reposted content

drowsy quest
#

Which literally just copy pastes stuff from other websites and distrubutes files illegally

gilded nova
#

"Original Here" -> "DOWNLOAD PIXEMON ON OUR WEBSITE INSTEAD"

drowsy quest
#

if I had money for a lawyer I'd started suing sites like these

gilded nova
#

Well it's file hosting, not a blog type of website πŸ˜› Just upload & download from shared links

#

It's just friends atm, 500GB storage, sharing content

drowsy quest
#

Alright

drowsy quest
#

@twin warren how good do you think Caffeine cache is?

twin warren
#

API is very similar to guavas

drowsy quest
#

Haven't used either

twin warren
#

it's certainly beyond me in terms of complexity

#

the cache implementations, that is

#

benchmarks are here

drowsy quest
#

I was thinking to use caffeine strapped on top of my datasources

#

Especially for offline players etc

#

Starting to think really big xD

twin warren
#

fine as long as you aren't too worried about consistency

drowsy quest
#

Meaning?

#

That data gets laoded incorrectly?

twin warren
#

for example, putting it over the top of a datasource which stores economy data, balances, etc

drowsy quest
#

What do you mean by consitency in this case?

twin warren
#

you're potentially acting on data which may not be up-to-date

drowsy quest
#

Ah

#

But as long as nothing else uses the database it should be fine

#

Right?

twin warren
#

I don't understand what you mean

drowsy quest
#

If I use a database as storage

#

And I know that my plugin is the only instance that accesses the data I shouldn't get consitency issues, right?

twin warren
#

depends

#

if you change the data behind the cache and don't invalidate it

#

you'll still have issues

#

so long as you're selectively applying caches where it makes sense to, I don't think it's an issue

#

but personally, I prefer to keep them fairly separated

drowsy quest
#

Ok

#

I'm reworking the player storage for my plugin

#

So thinking of ways to make it better

twin warren
#

avoid SQL πŸ˜ƒ

#

that's how you make things better

drowsy quest
#

That's why I want to strap a cache on top of it

twin warren
#

seriously, I use json where I can get away with it for all of my private work

drowsy quest
#

Hm ok

#

I'll think about it

#

Thanks for sharing your knowledge

twin warren
#

another thing

#

assuming these are MC projects, you really want to be loading stuff in on the AsyncLogin events

#

and caching the data just in a map somewhere

#

caches won't save you if you request data from the cache on the main thread and it doesn't have it locally

#

but they are useful if you want to automatically expire entries, etc

drowsy quest
#

Alright

gilded nova
#

@grave summit do you use essentialsx ?

grave summit
#

Usedbit

#

Used it*

#

why?

gilded nova
#

In the chat my name is red but on the tab playerlist is white

#

I did install essentialsx

grave summit
#

Did you set essentials to change it to red on the tab

#

Or get any other plugin to do so?

leaden ocean
#

That's because you're opped, which only translates to chat

gilded nova
#

wait wait slow down

grave summit
#

Yeah that too

#

No

#

I will

#

Talk

#

As fast

gilded nova
#

ok so i have EssentialsX and EssentialsXChat

grave summit
#

As I

gilded nova
#

what do i do ?

grave summit
#

Want

#

Okay

#

For what

#

What do you wanr

#

Want*

gilded nova
#

when i press tab my name is white

leaden ocean
#

If you want your rank and name colour to be in tab, you'll need another plugin for it

grave summit
#

Yeah

#

What Lynne said

gilded nova
#

oooooh O.O

#

how do i remove EssentialsX natural op chat color

grave summit
#

Config

#

Go to the config.yml

gilded nova
#

which setting

grave summit
#

And look for the first option

#

Its right there

#

In plain site

gilded nova
#

if i just comment it will it be disabled ?

grave summit
#

Dontncomment it

leaden ocean
#

Just set it to ''

grave summit
#

^

#

Two '

#

Things

#

Not "

#

'

#

x 2

gilded nova
#

u two are veri smurt

grave summit
#

No

#

The people around me are just dumb

leaden ocean
#

Nah, we have more experience

grave summit
#

^ the nicer way to put it

gilded nova
#

@grave summit πŸ˜„

grave summit
#

Anything else

#

?

gilded nova
#

@grave summit does EssentialsX also allow the creation of groups with permissions ?

grave summit
#

Um

#

No

#

Wait

#

You mean does it have a built in permissions system?

gilded nova
#

erm yes i guess

grave summit
#

No

#

GroupManager is by the same gals

#

But is no longer maintained

gilded nova
#

so the only option is LuckPerms

grave summit
#

No

#

PermissionsEx

#

Zpermissions

#

bPermissions

gilded nova
#

meh it was recommended to me that i use this plugin

grave summit
#

EasyPex

gilded nova
#

this is the best one right ?

grave summit
#

IMO

gilded nova
#

IMO ?

grave summit
#

Depends

gilded nova
#

whats IMO

grave summit
#

In my opinion

gilded nova
#

ok

leaden ocean
#

Nope, use luckperms :P

grave summit
#

You remind me of me like 1 year ago

gilded nova
#

πŸ˜›

grave summit
#

LP is best in our opinions

leaden ocean
#

Best to acquainted with it

grave summit
#

^^^^

#

Lynne. Can I give you a hug and 2 kisses

leaden ocean
#

It is difficult to use at first, so take your time with it

grave summit
#

Lynne?

#

Okay

gilded nova
#

When i want to update my server how can i get all the permissions from LuckPerms ?

#

@grave summit #rejected

grave summit
#

Um

#

I think there is an export/opposite of migration

leaden ocean
#

/lp user <username> permission set * true

grave summit
#

?

leaden ocean
#

Oh wait

gilded nova
#

LOL

leaden ocean
#

/lp export

grave summit
#

@gilded nova

gilded nova
#

oh let me try it

grave summit
#

Are you meaning change permission plugins?

#

Or update to 1.13

leaden ocean
#

Name the file whatever you want

grave summit
#

When it comes

gilded nova
#

@grave summit both

#

@leaden ocean you gud

grave summit
#

Changing would require the new plugin to support migration from LP right? @Lynne ( @leaden ocean )

gilded nova
#

If i'm gonna be using EssentialsX and EssentialsXChat then do i really need Vault ?

leaden ocean
#

Yep, but I doubt other perm plugin have migration. Lp has it because it's newer than most

grave summit
#

Yes

leaden ocean
#

Yep, you do need vault

grave summit
#

@gilded nova

#

Its vital

gilded nova
#

vital ?

leaden ocean
#

Every permission plugin needs vault

gilded nova
#

whats vital ?

#

why

#

what's so special about vault

leaden ocean
#

Because it allows permission plugins and economy plugins to communicate with others

grave summit
#

Lynne. Am I allowed to call u Lynne

#

...

gilded nova
#

so much complexity

#

but isnt this outdated ?

leaden ocean
#

You can blame bukkit and spigot for that :P

gilded nova
#

what version is it ?

leaden ocean
#

Probably still works. If not, an update will be out soon

#

Just grab the latest

gilded nova
#

how do you know an update will be out

#

what version is it ?

leaden ocean
grave summit
#

@leaden ocean

#

Nvm

gilded nova
grave summit
#

Actually NVM that NVM

#

Merj. Can I call u Lynne!

#

Y/N_

gilded nova
#

@grave summit you need a girlfriend ?

#

πŸ˜„

grave summit
#

...

#

Damn, I've been figured out

#

XD

gilded nova
#

anyways what is Vault

#

what does it exactly do

#

cuz outdated stuff is gross

grave summit
#

Its the middle man

gilded nova
#

an ugly middle man

grave summit
#

Basically a framework that economy and permission plugins can use

#

Most use ir

gilded nova
#

btw i think you scared merjilin#8876 away

grave summit
#

It

#

Its not ugly. Its beautiful

gilded nova
#

economy and permission plugins ?

grave summit
#

@leaden ocean even agrees

gilded nova
#

what are these economy plugins ?

grave summit
#

Money

#

Balancw

#

Are you younger than 12

gilded nova
#

so you're talking about EssentialsX ?

grave summit
#

EssentialsX is just an updated version of Essentials

#

Refer to it as essentials

gilded nova
#

ye

leaden ocean
#

essentials has it's own eco module

gilded nova
#

i wont

#

its a completely separate plugin

grave summit
#

What Lynne said

leaden ocean
#

nope, merj please

grave summit
#

:(

#

Jil

gilded nova
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so EssentialsX is an eco plugin ?

grave summit
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No

gilded nova
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AAAAHHHHHH

grave summit
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A part of it is though

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Its not just economy

gilded nova
grave summit
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Its nearly a jack of all trades

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A all rounded plugin of sorts

gilded nova
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but it still has economy right

grave summit
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Yes

gilded nova
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ok

grave summit
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That's a part of it

gilded nova
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So why does the economy of EssentialsX need Vault to communicate with LuckPerms

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I dont think it would need it

grave summit
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Because Vault is an API

gilded nova
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whats an API

grave summit
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OMG

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Luck

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Thank you

gilded nova
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OMG to you too

grave summit
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Life saver

gilded nova
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???

twin warren
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vault allows other plugins to interact with your economy/permission plugin, no matter which one you're using

gilded nova
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i still dont get it

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interact as in like what ?

twin warren
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retrieve data

gilded nova
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some examples ?

grave summit
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Vault makes it easier to two plugins to talk

twin warren
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get a players prefix

grave summit
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Or permissions

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Or balance (Money)

gilded nova
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Does Vault help only Eco and Permissions plugins to communicate ?

twin warren
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yes.

grave summit
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It specialises in that area

gilded nova
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still seems dumb to me

grave summit
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...

twin warren
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nobody is forcing you to use it.

gilded nova
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why wouldnt the plugins just interact with each other ?

twin warren
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but some plugins will require it

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because it's a lot of work

grave summit
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Would you like to code an entirely new system for money and have it communicate with other plugins which you also have to make?

gilded nova
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@grave summit im not a developer so idk

twin warren
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nighko there's no need to be rude.

grave summit
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I'm not trying to be

gilded nova
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I dont consider it rude

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I just think he's pissed that I don't understand what all the fuss is about πŸ˜„

grave summit
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No

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I'm just at the end of my very short patience

gilded nova
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🀣

grave summit
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Patience meter

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Average 5

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Max 10

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Min 1

gilded nova
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and you're at 11 ?

grave summit
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No

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I'm at -94.39

gilded nova
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still if there are such problems with vault being outdated and whatnot

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why isnt it being updated

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?

grave summit
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If vault is abandoned

twin warren
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there are no issues with it

grave summit
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Someone would pick it up

twin warren
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and it's not outdated

gilded nova
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1.11

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thats the latest version according to merjilin#8876

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and 1.12.1 just came out recently

twin warren
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not all plugins need to be updated for every version

grave summit
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Its only outdated when a part of it stops working

gilded nova
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still its good to tell the users that the plugin is compatible with a certain version

grave summit
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Eg. A library no longer exist

gilded nova
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otherwise there will be confusion

twin warren
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it's compatible with every version

grave summit
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Or there's a more efficient way to do it

gilded nova
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plus its on Bukkit

twin warren
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generally, if there are no version requirements, you can assume it will work with all versions

gilded nova
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and not on Spigot

twin warren
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that makes no difference

gilded nova
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Why not add it on Spigot

grave summit
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Spigot is an add-on to bukkit

leaden ocean
grave summit
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^

twin warren
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that's not the official version.

grave summit
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Oh

gilded nova
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oh

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how do you know ?

leaden ocean
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yep, but it's there at least

twin warren
grave summit
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Only add a plugin to spigot of it uses spigot imo

twin warren
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that's the official version ^^

grave summit
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The official Version War

leaden ocean
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_> Why is it when I search vault, that didn't appear xD Oh well

grave summit
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Coming Soon to your local Cinemas

twin warren
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well, it's released by the original author

gilded nova
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not tested on 1.12

grave summit
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@gilded nova

twin warren
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doesn't mean it won't work on 1.12

gilded nova
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there might be bugs

twin warren
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there aren't any.

grave summit
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Your just barneying for the sake of it

gilded nova
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there might be

leaden ocean
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others use it perfectly on newer versions.

grave summit
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Luck

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There are always bugs

gilded nova
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since its not tested its unknown what could happen

twin warren
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show me

grave summit
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Major ones are what causes problems

twin warren
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load it on 1.12 and show me the issues then Nighko

grave summit
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Nothing can ever be bugless

twin warren
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again, not true.

grave summit
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It might be minor

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But it will always be there

leaden ocean
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:3 I'd say luckperms is getting there. Bugs are VERY rare

fierce vector
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one mans bug is another mans feature

grave summit
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Until you fix it

gilded nova
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Until a plugin is tested people cant be sure what could possibly happen

leaden ocean
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indeed

gilded nova
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@fierce vector i luv u

twin warren
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@gilded nova it's just a case of loading it. you'll work out pretty quickly whether it works or not.

leaden ocean
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it has been tested by players else reviews would be very low. It usually means the dev hasn't tested it

gilded nova
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

grave summit
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@fierce vector Can I call you Fez

gilded nova
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fine

grave summit
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Please @fierce vector

gilded nova
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Well if the players have tested it then owner of the plugin should've addted the "Tested on: 1.12"

leaden ocean
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not when the dev isn't active

grave summit
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@gilded nova your arguing for no reason at all

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Please stop

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It works.

gilded nova
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@leaden ocean is he not active ?

leaden ocean
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I haven't seen him active in a while personally

gilded nova
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@grave summit otherwise we wouldnt be talking about anything

twin warren
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again, some plugins do not need to be updated for every new version.

gilded nova
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that suck merjilin

grave summit
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It works and your trying to say it doesnt

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Its a losing battle

gilded nova
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@twin warren but they do need to be tested

twin warren
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no they do not.

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vault does not rely on version specific code

grave summit
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^

gilded nova
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ok if the owner is sure that the plugin is compatible then he should've added tested

grave summit
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@gilded nova the owner might not go on spigot that often

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If it works. And everyone still says it does. Then why add it

gilded nova
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Then we must take over the plugin

twin warren
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god bless

gilded nova
grave summit
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...

gilded nova
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must take over !

twin warren
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Luck - Today at 12:15
again, some plugins do not need to be updated for every new version.

grave summit
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I might just go to bed

gilded nova
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@grave summit 🀣

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we need to take over πŸ˜„

twin warren
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lol

grave summit
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I fell asleep on the couch like 5 times

leaden ocean
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alright, I'm done moaning. Time to play some ESO

grave summit
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And nearly fell asleep on a wood chair

gilded nova
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ESO ?

twin warren
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ESO???!?!?!

gilded nova
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whats ESO

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also when shall we take over the plugin

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πŸ˜„

leaden ocean
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Elder Scrolls Online

grave summit
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Electron Sourced Objectives?

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Ohhhh

twin warren
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oh, nice

leaden ocean
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haven't played it in a while

grave summit
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Jil

gilded nova
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Im clueless

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i havent played it

grave summit
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Is ESO a paid game?

leaden ocean
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you pay for it initially. But subsciptions were removed

grave summit
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Oh

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Okay

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One time payment?

leaden ocean
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yep

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it used to be really expensive

grave summit
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Could 3mb/s cut it?

leaden ocean
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so it did really shit. Probably not xD

grave summit
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:(

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I live in a rural area

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Got a new dog

leaden ocean
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same here

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rural area*

grave summit
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Misspelt his name on the tag

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Cobolt instead of Cobalt

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I was tired...

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Why did I put Cobolt!

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Anyway

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Killer robots is on the news now...

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Reaply

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Really

gilded nova
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You know you guys helped me more than the spigotmc irc would have ever helped me πŸ˜„

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seriously that place sucks

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wut ?

grave summit
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Killer robots

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Was a segment on the ABC news

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Creepy

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Has luck left us?

gilded nova
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now i gotta check on how to get prefixes and suffixes with LP

grave summit
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Oh god

gilded nova
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whats wrong ?

grave summit
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That's really simple

gilded nova
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well i dont know how this works so i need to find out

grave summit
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But I guess your new

gilded nova
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ye

grave summit
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Why do u disagree my friend

twin warren
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where is it @gilded nova ?

gilded nova
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Cyber security apprenticeship, salary is like 14k to 25k, depends on the company

twin warren
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oh, so you don't know the company?

gilded nova
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I'll check hold up

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One interview is for The Port of Dover and the one today is for Telent

twin warren
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nice

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is it near where you live?