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twin warren
true ether
Anyone here familure with getting ProjectPortals working with Bungeecord?
lyric shale
How can i protect a region from the world edit?
bleak notch
Worldguard
left lodge
why use foxguard when u can use griefprevention on sponge 😃
true ether
Don't they do two different jobs?
I assumed FoxGuard prevented entry into set areas and GP stopped intereaction in a a set area
I think I read someplace that they even work together
leaden ocean
Just an fyi. Foxgaurd hasn't been updated for a while and was barely useable when it was popular. As an alternative there is universe guard. However, grief prevention is the best one out there.
true ether
I might end up switching then.
lyric shale
How can i do that @bleak notch
I'm using worldguard and people without op permissions can edit some regions with worldedit
ashen lintel
Hey guys if someone wanted to get into IT what is a good fun job to start in, I've done some CertIV IT, CCNA never completed them but I think I like linux,cloud,web,networking
I don't want to be stuck at a desk answering phone calls
mystic steeple
imo, a job that you would have fun doing
ashen lintel
What's imo
mystic steeple
in my opinion
gilded nova
Anyone else have an issue with the Adminshop deleting shops some times?
true ether
Does anyone happen to know of another spongeVanilla compatible plugin/mod that has the same functionality as ProjectPortals
drowsy quest
Are chess players here?
true ether
I kind of like that op doesn't get full reign with lp, but at the same time it's rather annoying when I'm trying to do something. :P
It's apparent that something is not being inherited down the line..
true ether
Is the wiki keeping up with updates?
true ether
Discovered why I'm missing some PJP nodes.
Admin get pjp.button, but do not inherit pjp.button.place from that.
Which means I have to actually give the ranks that get PJP every node...
pastel grail
does anyone know of a plugin "essentials" like that can handle a players UUID instead of their name? example /give <uuid> minecraft:wool:0 1 ?
true ether
Also, I'm pretty sure /give is a minecraft command, therefore it would be something to ask from your server provider (sponge/spigot/bukkit/whatever)
true ether
Luck, I like your website background!
I have a turbo right-click button, and if I hold it down the whole thing starts to slow down. I feel if I hold it down longer it may cause issues/crash your site.
true ether
Your "image host" link is broken
twin warren
yep ik
true ether
Or a warning on dog medicine
"May cause drowsiness. Alcohol may intensify this effect. Use care when operating a car or dangerous machinery"
"I don't want to live on this planet anymore" - Professor Farnsworth
http://thatcaption.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/4-productlabel-fail.jpg
onyx saddle
most of my server community is adults over 30.. so we always have a good laugh when the yungins do stupid things.. ignore the warnings. on the last server we had lanteacraft so we were using the stargate to go to the other dimensions lots of signs around that said "If you can read this, you're standing too close" ofc, they ignored them and got vapourized and then whined.
true ether
facepalm /)_-
onyx saddle
yep, so we had our fun and made them wait around for a while before we gave them thier stuff back.
in this pack we have the "Grue" mod, it attacks players in dark areas after about 10 secs or so, i think it even warns players they are in an area that's too dark, we'll see how many die cuz of that warning. XD
us old folks got to have our laughs.
true ether
Have to keep yourself entertained somehow.
I've noticed something in the last three years.
Fewer servers run by "13 year olds", more ran by "30 year olds"
onyx saddle
it's not easy to run a server, just setting it up is a chore.
and ofc the young guys let thier friends have all sorts of freedom and eventually one of them has to try out soem of the forbidden stuff and blow up the server..
true ether
I hear you.
I've been working on mine since just before Christmas.
My innitial thought was "I'll have this open for New Year!"
then it was "I should have this open before Valantine's day..."
Now it's "I'm lucky if I get this ready by September"
Doesn't help I'm doing everything on my own so far...
Just spend the last hour looking at "food label fails". I don't know how some of those things get past the inspectors.
onyx saddle
our 1.7.10 server was becoming a ghost town cuz 1.7.10 had run it's course, so i thought i'd start working on the 1.10.2 server, got most of it done and all we were doing was waiting and waiting and waiting for thaumcraft, and now that we know it's dead for now i thought "ok, shouldn;t take me more than a couple fo days to finish it up and get it up and running, that was about 2 weeks ago" cuz it turns out Forge Essentials is CRAP!
left lodge
1.11.2 is getting all the goddies now
true ether
Spigot or Sponge?
onyx saddle
i expect we'll up to 1.11.2 or 1.12 in about 6 months or so.. i knwo there are a fe wof the good mods aren;t there yet.
sponge
true ether
Go for Nucleus.
onyx saddle
yep, got that, luckperms, universeguard, griefprevention.
left lodge
why universeguard?
onyx saddle
server regions.
true ether
Foxguard?
left lodge
what does it prevent that GP cant?
onyx saddle
i think foxguard is dead or close to it.
true ether
Foxguard is on its last breath
onyx saddle
seems the dev is too busy to work on it..
left lodge
but @onyx saddle what does universeguard do that GP cant? 😃 no reason to have 2 layers
gp does everything
true ether
Like LP, or Nucleus... 😛
left lodge
u know what i mean
true ether
If I could get LP, Nuc or (soon) GP to add elements from the other plugins / mods I use, I'd only use a "swiss army knife" mod. Mash all of them into one .jar
left lodge
some idiot was using a custom jar with merged polis/gp code and tried to get support cause it wasnt working xD
true ether
Wow....just, wow.
My dream setup would be having a single jar collaboration from the authors of all the mods/plugins I use, set up like modules with their own config files.
onyx saddle
well.. i'm used to WG from 1.7.10, i had a lot of troubles setting up GP admin zones in 1.7.10
true ether
But, like I said. It's just a dream
onyx saddle
mostly it would be for server regions to prevent players from breaking things, like the railway, etc.
true ether
I suspect a lot has changed since 1.7.10
onyx saddle
@true ether you don;t want one mod that tries to do everything or plugin, that's when you run into update problems, if one part of the mod is broken and the devs don;t think it's important then you're stuck with a part fo your server that doesn;t work..
liek FE and nether portals.
left lodge
for a simple setup of GP then its just 2 perm nodes u need to use
onyx saddle
@left lodge i'll try to do mostly GP claims if i can, but UG is there if it'd be easier for me.
i'm a lazy and soemtimes busy admin.
true ether
I know that it's not going to happen. Getting all 40+ authors to work together would be a miracle in itself
onyx saddle
lol. true
leaden ocean
GP is harder to understand. But let's put it this way, if anything bypasses GP, it is because of sponge, not GP itself.
So little to no bypass will occur with GP. The only thing I know that can bypass it, is psi which is because of sponge.
left lodge
and all u need is a golden shovel 😄
leaden ocean
Yep. Understanding the flags takes some getting used to. But after that, it's easy.
onyx saddle
well, i've been using WG since 1.2.5, so i knwo the commands, no wiki needed, so would only take me a few mins to set up a region, GP requires learnins.
but it looks liek it's changed since 1.7.10 too
leaden ocean
Universe guard isn't supported by a head developer of sponge who will sort bypasses out as soon as they're found.
If you're looking for a lazy option, go with universe guard. However, if you're looking for an incredibly reliable plugin which will make your life easier. Go with GP.
onyx saddle
that's why i have both, i have my lazy moments.
left lodge
i mean with little to no setup/config, for a "admin claim" all u do is get a golden shovel do "/adminclaims" and then right-click 2 corners and u are done
the longest time for me is to move between the 2 corners xD
onyx saddle
can GP do polygon selections?
onyx saddle
ah see.. i'd want to protect the eintire spawn island
leaden ocean
Only squares so far :P
onyx saddle
i think i remeber that too from 1.7.10
leaden ocean
Yep
onyx saddle
one way to stop the newbs from doing anything at spawn is to just make a region and deny them everything but doors..
true ether
Post a sign "Don't even breathe here"
Which would be no problem, because pixel constructs don't need oxygen.
onyx saddle
nobody reads in MC.
leaden ocean
My bunch seem to :P they can't read the welcome channel on discord though >_>
true ether
I do. It's how to know what to do on an adventure map...
onyx saddle
we had signs in 1.7.10.. spawn was an island to.. the signs would point to tunnels and bridges to the mainland.. and even to the dock where they could get free boats... "HOW DO I GET OFF THE ISLAND??? OMG!!"
leaden ocean
I would just say "... swim"
onyx saddle
i did a few times..
leaden ocean
I'm in the process of making my own servers rather than being an admin in my current placement. I'm hoping I don't attract too many like that XD
onyx saddle
some players i thought would be good additions to the server were idiots, other players i thought had bad atitudes stuck around and now they're part fo the community.. you just don;t know..
true ether
The last server I was staff on that wasnt my own, there was only one path you could take from spawn to get to the next area.
"How do I get to the next town" was a frequent question.
I eventually started saying something along the lines of "Kill X cows, put their hide in a dispenser in a "z" pattern. leave that there and go kill x chickens and bring back their feathers. Put the feathers in the empty spaces. Break the dispenser but don't pick up any of the items. Now turn around 180*. Then you'll be in the next town"
They'd ask where the nearest dispenser was.
"In the next town"
leaden ocean
Hahaha
onyx saddle
LOL!!
true ether
Seriously though. East from spawn was blocked by FoxGuard. North and South was blocked by trees and the only way they could go was West.
onyx saddle
i always keep in mind.. you don;t kwno what thier previous experience with other servers was.. soem servers are set up so poorly that they expect to ahve to buy thier way anywhere or perform tricks to get anywhere.. i can tell by some of the questions i get asked..
i'm always being asked how much money to donate to the server to rank up..
true ether
That sounds like a factions server thing.
I plan on having two ways to get a rank.
Donate real money to get the rank now
or grind your butt off, earn the points and get it for free.
As an example, let's say I was selling "Bronze" rank for $10.00. It might be ten million points for it.
onyx saddle
personnaly i don;t like the idea of exchanging money for privilage, i think it sets up a bad dynamic on the server, but i guess it would depend oin how it's done..
my server just has perm groups.. the longer the player has been around and the more trust they earn.. the more privilage they gain..
true ether
I'm only accepting donations to cover server costs. 90% of anything over that will be donated to a charity.
onyx saddle
😃 good diea..
true ether
It will be selected by the player base themselves.
leaden ocean
I will never personally accept money from someone. My plan is to have the money for server costs and if the players want a plugin which needs to be custom.
true ether
The remaining 10% will be left in a paypal account and slowly build up over the year. Then on the server's 'birthday', 100% of all donations will be given
leaden ocean
Aww, that's really sweet!
true ether
I worded that wrong.
The 10% will be build up to cover server costs for the birthday...that way I can afford to donate it all for that month
I am partial to the "extra life" charity
leaden ocean
Yassss
onyx saddle
i was paying out of pocket for the server for a year on OVH.. then i told the community i couldn't really afford that anymore so 4 of them donated parts to create a box to run the server on.. so i supply the power and internet, plus the power supply and case.. another player bought a motherboard, one of them got a cpu, another donated some ram, another got an ssd.. so it's fairly cheap to run now, but at some point we need to upgrade again.
true ether
That's awesome. you know that you have something people like when they are willing to offer that level of support
leaden ocean
The OVH servers are brilliant, but bloody expensive XD I'm currently on a machine but we'll be migrating following launch to a ovh server.
onyx saddle
most important thing for me has always been to build the community
true ether
^ yes!
leaden ocean
That cannot me emphasised enough! My current placement has one of the worst communities I've ever witnessed. Main reason why I'm leaving to forge my own place.
true ether
I should really get back to what I was doing over checks clock four hours ago...
onyx saddle
i'm hopinfg for our next upgrade we can get enough money together for somethign like this... http://www.ebay.com/itm/302087431337?ul_noapp=true
lol.. laters breantique
true ether
o/
onyx saddle
\o
leaden ocean
Ooooo sweet pc
left lodge
just know that core count dosnt really matter
onyx saddle
$200 bucks.. so about the same as buying the parts seperately..
lol.. don;t burst my bubble fiveeyz..
onyx saddle
true .. but it does have lots fo ram.. could always upgrade the hdd..
leaden ocean
They keep saying we NEED a 12 core cpu over an i7 with 4.4ghz
left lodge
thats why ppl go for i7 and not xeons to host minecraft
true ether
Check with benchmark sites (like cpuboss)
onyx saddle
i think we have an I5 , 3.4 G now... let me look
leaden ocean
Vps always seem to use Xeon. OVH are the only ones I've seen distribute i7s
onyx saddle
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz, 4 cores
left lodge
i have a 2600k laying around in closet and i still bought a Intel Xeon E3-1231V3 3,4GHz
true ether
My host is using i7-6700K
true ether
"Base frequency 4.0 GHz"
leaden ocean
Lemme show you to OVH game package. It's pretty damn awesome
left lodge
😄
leaden ocean
onyx saddle
merjillon.. we had the $30 package until about 18 months ago.. i did like ti but it was hard to maintain the cashflow.. some of the palyers suggested donations etc, but i didn;t want to start down that path..
true ether
< Can't afford that much...
leaden ocean
Yeah, they're expensive XD
onyx saddle
i had enough $ around at the time that i could pay for a year in advance.. but didn;t have the saame amoutn around a year later.
leaden ocean
They're good though and OVH support has gotten better
left lodge
looks nice
true ether
However, for dedicated machines, I understand the cost.
I also understand the low prices of my shared box
leaden ocean
That has just reminded me of another site... time for some searching
true ether
Didn't you tell me it was OVH that supplied my host?
onyx saddle
they are resellers for OVH
leaden ocean
Yep. But they're still decent
onyx saddle
yep.. but someone told me they seel shared servers.. not sur enow.
leaden ocean
Hmmm... Lemme investigate that
left lodge
but getting Anti-DDoS is nice, to damn annoying when it hits u
leaden ocean
I'm pretty sure they're still dedicated servers. I can't find any info on them being shared.
onyx saddle
not sure.. i dodn;t knwo much about renting an online server, it's soemthing somebody told me.. so i just decided to go directly to OVH to rent one.
leaden ocean
OVH is better for sure. But these are in some cases, $100 cheaper a month.
But you do pay for performance after all :/
onyx saddle
yeah.. it was a great deal.. nice fast server, but just couldn;t keep up with the cost.. i could ahve asked for donations, etc, but what if there wasn;t enough donations one month.. then i would ahve to make emergency payemts.. i didn;t want to lose the whole server cuz of a late payment, etc. so we just went with the dedicated box in a closet.. XD
pregenning this map is taking forever.
leaden ocean
Nucleus I take it?
onyx saddle
yep.
leaden ocean
What is your world border?
onyx saddle
box just isn;t strong enough
10000 x 10000
but RTG, gravestone mod, reccurent complex, muon.
leaden ocean
Hmm, not as large as mine then. I usually choose a 16k radius
onyx saddle
also orecontrol mod
leaden ocean
Oh... RTG and recurrent complex..
RIP
It'll probably take at least 5 days of constant process. Make sure you're using the nucleus mixin as well! It'll be faster
Slightly faster, but it's something
left lodge
trired mixins for 1.11, didnt work
onyx saddle
i tied the mixin.. but a couple fo times the box just froze .. i didn;t even knwo it til i looked at the console and saw nothing had happened for 2 hours..
onyx saddle
yep..
leaden ocean
Oh... well then. Not much can be done :/
onyx saddle
no console errors .. nothing.. just froze.
leaden ocean
Oh I see! Nevermind then
onyx saddle
we thought we had bought a motherboard that could take 16G, but for soem reaosn it can only see 8G.
onyx saddle
uumm.. let me look..
left lodge
did some calc and it would take me 62 days to pregen
onyx saddle
lol..
-Dfml.queryResult=confirm -Xms5G -Xmx5G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=50 -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:G1NewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=80 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=10 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=50 -XX:+AggressiveOpts
leaden ocean
These were suggested in the nucleus discord. Might be worth a try: -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:G1NewSizePercent=20 -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=32M -XX:+UseStringDeduplication
onyx saddle
oh.. forgot to chage that back to 6G .. was playing with the memory when i added mixins
left lodge
G1GC is nice, but will make the server use slightly more ram
leaden ocean
I have many sets of java params I'll be testing XD
There's apparently work well as well and don't use g1
-XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseCMSCompactAtFullCollection -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalMode
onyx saddle
well.. i was looking for the settings CPW posted somewhere .. couldn;t find them but found this from "aichen" (?) lots of links to the same post..
gilded nova
Always remember to add the UTF-8 😉
onyx saddle
UTF-8?
leaden ocean
People are having varied experiences with all of them. It's best to test as many as you can to see which fit your machine
left lodge
G1 is adviced to be used if u plan to allocate more then 8gb
onyx saddle
i'm just not sure hwo to find out what's best.. i knwo about warm roast but have no idea how to set it up or run it.
left lodge
just google eaach flag and read about it, best way
most of the long flag options ppl paste are needed for java 7 but default for java 8
gilded nova
I only use:
-XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=45 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:G1NewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=80 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=10 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=50 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -jar Custom.jar
leaden ocean
Using more than 8gb isn't recommended at all for mc now. Especially when you can run sf3 on 4gb and beyond on around 6gb
But with its memory leaks, you can probably get away with setting it lower than that.
left lodge
yea
gilded nova
8+GB's is useless, it'd be more useful if you're expecting a large server, to seperate it into two seperate servers, to release stress on each server, dividing the players, and stress on the machine/server
leaden ocean
XD
gilded nova
Don't get pulled into a blackhole
left lodge
dont copy and remove duplicate flags xD
onyx saddle
the blackhole of jvm args
leaden ocean
They're incredibly important now so we have to rant to you!
Just to emphasise their importance :P
gilded nova
One of the most important advice for a new, or even old server owner, is to NEVER use the /reload command...
leaden ocean
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
gilded nova
Even for development servers, I tried using it when I was coding IndieCore, and it just simply broke the plugin..
onyx saddle
oh.. haven;t usd that since 1.2.5
gilded nova
I haven't eur that since when I was testing it w. a development server ;p
Anyone get the "eur" pun? 😛
gilded nova
It's like a reboot with keeping the server alive
Since I got bored and remastered MineQuery, then got bored and remade AdFly functions, now ima try to get Votifier vote send PHP code working, and try to make a server list website again 😛
I raged last time cause I was sooo confused on the votifier vote send php system... -.-
left lodge
im just happy i got my bungee setup working with forge sponge and mods xD
onyx saddle
how does one get the GP book on the server?
left lodge
its not a book, u get a link to a youtube vid shoving how easy it is to use
onyx saddle
hhmm.. saw soemthing about a book on it's wiki..
left lodge
all i get when doin that command is some text in chat and a link that that vid
onyx saddle
really.. crap..
i hate watching MC vids
"i'm going to explain mod X while i farm and play with animals" 😛
left lodge
that vid is nothing like that, its 100% informative in a calm and soothing voice 😉
he sometime whispers in ur ear
onyx saddle
yep[.. but i like to read.. go back if i need to reference something.. hard to know what to go back to when you're watching a vid.. but if that's all we got then it'll ahve to do.
leaden ocean
Just read the wiki then :P the issue with using a book in it would be keeping it up to date :/
And with bloodshot being so busy, it's unreasonable for him
left lodge
and the vid is simple and is still relevant after 5 years
onyx saddle
blood is the dev for GP?
left lodge
yea for the sponge version
onyx saddle
but the plugin doesn;t use a chest to amke a claim anymore?
left lodge
it does
onyx saddle
oh.. hhmm.. wiki is confusing then.. it talks about using the gold shovel.
left lodge
yea u can also use the shovel
gilded nova
The chest is an autoclaim feature
for anyone who forgets to claim before placing their chests
left lodge
but only the first chest u place
gilded nova
Not sure about that, I've only used it once
left lodge
whe u place the second chest outside the claim it will tell u i needs to be claimd
or if u place blocks outside the claim
onyx saddle
i'd like an option in the cfg to change the block to something else.. when new players are lookign for an area to amke as thier base they place a chest and don;t realize they've made thier claim.. they get confused ..
left lodge
indeed
gilded nova
Yeah, like "You start with 1024 blocks!" then they go to claim after placing a chest, and have like 10 blocks
onyx saddle
i'd like to give them a hay bail or tell them to use a log to amke thier claim.
gilded nova
Yea, it'd be useful, or to set corner blocks or something
onyx saddle
yeah..
gilded nova
If it has an API someone could problably create it
onyx saddle
not sure how big the initial claim os going to eb yet.. 100x100 or maybe close to 50x50..
left lodge
its 10x10
onyx saddle
yeah.. definately going to need to change that..
gilded nova
I'd say start small, so new players don't claim large amounts and ruin it for real members
onyx saddle
yeah.. i was thinking 50x50
left lodge
Radius used for auto-created claims. Set to -1 to disable.
auto-claim-radius=4
Minimum area for non-admin claims.
minimum-area=100
# Minimum width for non-admin claims.
minimum-width=5
all are defaults from the config file
onyx saddle
yeah.. i'll ahve to look at what setings i had in 1.7.10
left lodge
here are the permission options https://github.com/MinecraftPortCentral/GriefPrevention/wiki/Options
they all have a default if u dont change it
onyx saddle
yep.. i think i ahve that set up right.. i've got a player testing it out on the server nwo and he's saying the chest doesn;t work.
left lodge
if u dont set griefprevention.blocks-accrued-per-hour then everyone will by default get 120 claim blocks / hour
onyx saddle
yeah.. haven;t fiddled with that yet...
player isn;t having any luck making a claim.. nothign about no perms.. i'm goign to ahve to hop on and try..
mabe i broke it.. 😛
left lodge
all they need is: griefprevention.user
leaden ocean
Only use 'griefprevention.user' and 'griefprevention.admjn' to ensure you don't mess it up :P
left lodge
never ever use "griefprevention" on anyone it will mess up the permission checks for that group/player
onyx saddle
well.. as admin i have griefprevention.* for the perm
leaden ocean
No!!!!
left lodge
thats is same as griefprevention
onyx saddle
oh.. oops..
leaden ocean
Use griefprevention.admin and inherit griefprevention.user from the default group
onyx saddle
k.
left lodge
or else u as admin will be denied to do stuff that dont make any sense xD
leaden ocean
Plus, you'll be given a smack by bloodshot if you needed help :P
onyx saddle
lol.. don;t want a blood slap
Limit on how deep claims can go.
claim-max-depth=0
is that Y level or blocks below the player?
left lodge
it was recently changed for 2d claims to cover from 0-256 i think
onyx saddle
blocks or level?
whene i would make regions for players i would always ahve the region go from bedrock to the build limit.
left lodge
bedrock to maxbuild height
onyx saddle
k.. so that's the y= level then..
and /gpreload doesn;t seem to work.. unknown command
onyx saddle
griefprevention-1.10.2-2.3.1.295
spongeforge-1.10.2-2281-5.2.0-BETA-2363
but forge 2297 cuz a couple fo the mods want that
onyx saddle
k.
left lodge
got latest LP?
onyx saddle
nope..
onyx saddle
i just tried the golden shovel too.. nothing
is GP supposed to go in the mods or plugins folder?
left lodge
u can config that in sponge.conf
onyx saddle
i tried /gphelp and it said unknown command
left lodge
by default its mods
onyx saddle
k.. it's in the mods folder and it must be loading or i wouldn;t have any cfg folders..
left lodge
try /lp tree griefprevention
left lodge
can u link the fml log?
onyx saddle
sure..
i think i must have screwed up perms.. i de'opped myself... and now i can;t even set the time fo day ..
but i type /lp user scratchman and get unknown command.
left lodge
a yea the GP config
cant see lines
but the time was [14:53:16]
search for "Could not pass FMLServerAboutToStartEvent"
onyx saddle
google it or in the log?
left lodge
in the log
onyx saddle
well.. crap..
[14:53:16] [Server thread/ERROR] [Sponge/sponge]: Could not pass FMLServerAboutToStartEvent to Plugin{id=griefprevention, name=GriefPrevention, version=2.3.1, description=This plugin is designed to prevent all forms of grief., url=https://github.com/MinecraftPortCentral/GriefPrevention, source=/home/AMP/.ampdata/instances/MCMA/Minecraft/mods/griefprevention-1.10.2-2.3.1.295.jar}
java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
onyx saddle
[14:52:01] [Server thread/ERROR] [Sponge/sponge]: Could not pass FMLPreInitializationEvent to Plugin{id=luckperms, name=LuckPerms, version=3.2.10, description=A permissions plugin, authors=[Luck], source=/home/AMP/.ampdata/instances/MCMA/Minecraft/mods/LuckPerms-Sponge-3.2.10.jar}
java.lang.NullPointerException
left lodge
java.io.IOException: configurate.typesafe.config.ConfigException$Parse: Reader: 301: Expecting close brace } or a comma, got end of file
onyx saddle
[14:52:03] [Server thread/ERROR] [Sponge/sponge]: Could not pass FMLPreInitializationEvent to Plugin{id=griefprevention, name=GriefPrevention, version=2.3.1, description=This plugin is designed to prevent all forms of grief., url=https://github.com/MinecraftPortCentral/GriefPrevention, source=/home/AMP/.ampdata/instances/MCMA/Minecraft/mods/griefprevention-1.10.2-2.3.1.295.jar}
java.util.NoSuchElementException: No value present
left lodge
GP is failing cause of LP
onyx saddle
in a group yml or the general LP cfg?
onyx saddle
yes i did.. .. @true ether put up some cfg code so i could have all new players jpin the newb group instead of default.. just goig to look at that now..
true ether
Copy your config and paste it in here
http://yaml-online-parser.appspot.com/
It will tell you if/where there is an error
left lodge
but looking at "Reader: 301: Expecting close brace } or a comma, got end of file" then i would assum line 301 need to be checked
true ether
You removed all of the lines in "default-assignment" that started with a # before you pasted my code?
true ether
Are you willing to send me your config in a private message?
onyx saddle
lol.. too late
true ether
You're missing a } at the very bottom
onyx saddle
ah..
true ether
I was offering in private in case you had sql information. Turns out you don't.
onyx saddle
so line 309 should be a }
true ether
Yes ^
onyx saddle
k.. 😃
left lodge
changed the claimTool or something?
onyx saddle
nope.
i think the perms are wrong.. the parent group for a group should be the current group and the group before or the curent group and the first group? newb?
onyx saddle
i'm in the admin group.. should the parent groups be admin and then mod? that's the group before admin..
newb is the first group players get added to.
left lodge
if admin is parent of mod then u only need admin
onyx saddle
yeah.. i think add parent adn set parent confused me then..
i want admin to inheret the perms form mod..
onyx saddle
well.. i think the info i got for the cfg from brentique removed the default group but i i didn;t add any perms to that group.. the first group a new player joins is newb.
so in that picture should it say parent groups are admin and mod?
left lodge
no
mystic grotto
oh okay
left lodge
if admin is parent of mod then admin will inherit the perms from mod
onyx saddle
in my brain.. the way i see it is admin is at the top of the ladder, but i ubderstand that newb is the parent group for all groups subsequent to it.. so the next group up the ladder would inheret the perms from newb.
so in that pic i would expect it to say the parent for admin would be mod.
left lodge
https://gyazo.com/fa91455c305776cd0a4b2423fa91ea51 default is lowest and owner is highest
onyx saddle
maybe i'm not understanding it properly..
left lodge
owner is parent of admin -> mod -> member -> default
im using rankupper to move ppl to member after x amount of time
onyx saddle
yeah.. i think i might have parents set up wrong then.
i'm not sure what the diff ebtween set and add are.
onyx saddle
i just used set... i'll try add again..
k.. so doing /lp group admin info shows the right parent group, it's onyl when i look at my own info it says i have 2 parent groups, admin and newb
left lodge
deafult group is still newb?
in the info
so if the default group is newb and the only parent they have is newb, then all ur perms need to go to newb
all perm u want ur players to have
onyx saddle
well.. newb has the ability to break blocks.. intereact with the world, and create a claim,
true ether
I'm mildly annoyed.
I have enable-command-block=true in the server.properties
I have permission minecraft.commandblock.edit.block and .minecart, but I can't place a commandblock, open the commandblock gui, activate nn existing commandblock
onyx saddle
i seem to recall seeing something about vehicles in a cfg..
i'm trying to figure out why i can use the compass to jump around but one of my players can't.
left lodge
are u in creative?
true ether
Scratch. Do you have WorldEdit installed?
onyx saddle
yep..
found out it's a seperate perm for the tool.
there's jumpto and jumpto.tool\
true ether
WE hasn't really updated the wiki recently. There are a few duplicate lines.
onyx saddle
well.. i remeber using that perm in 1.7.10, but ithought this time it was only the jumpto perm.. and the ability to use the compass was automatically granted, guess not.
cuz i see options in the WE cfg for the nav tool.
does luckperms read it's cfg in order.. so if i give admin worldedit.* and then fixwater=deny will it still deny fixwater or will the worldedit.* over ride it?
in pex, as it searched for a perm, it would stop it's search as soon as it came across a perm that allowed or denied a perm.
true ether
I'm not positive, and I don't want to give you bad information...
onyx saddle
i'l ask in the other channel later..
onyx saddle
having much better luck pregenning the world now.. disabled every mod but world gen and added nucleus mixins back in.. no crashes yet.
crosses everything.
true ether
Two hours later, how did that work for you, @onyx saddle?
onyx saddle
the pregen? it's about 90% done now.. i added nucleus mixins back in.. it's still crashed a few times but at least it's faster..
it crashed an hour after i went to bad last night so lost 7 hours of pregen time..
it's taken days to do this.. 😛
ans \o breantique
so really can;t do much with the server until it's done cuz 80% of the mods are disabaled.. even luckperms.
every 5 mins i'm glancing at the mcma screen to see if it's crashed yet. 😄
you're comand blocks were screwing with your sanity?
true ether
I have no issues with the command I had posted. I don't expect everyone to have the same experience.
onyx saddle
just MC fooling with you.
true ether
😛
onyx saddle
i want to create a side group.. not part of the regular groups, it's for players that want to work on server projects.. so they can go into creative and use world edit, etc, i want the group to be between 2 of the regular groups so it will inheret the perms of one fo the groups but i want to be able to put players in it that are of a higher group without them losing perms.. if that makes sense.
would it just depend on wieghts? would i need to make a track for the regular groups and keep it out of the track?
covert nimbus
Players can be in multiple groups, and will display the prefix/chat color with the highest weight
If you add your higher ups to the new group, they will gain the new perms without losing any olds ones
onyx saddle
ah ok.. cool..
what about players that are in a group 2 steps down.. i don;t want them to inheret perms they shouldn;t have yet but i'd still like to put them in the group so they can use creative and world edit.. maybe i would need to add more perms to the side group so it wouldn;t need to inheret perms from the previous group.
i understand it in my head, just hard to explain.
covert nimbus
I think I get it
If you want it that specific, I wouldnt have it inherit it from anything
Add all the perms you want that group to have and have it completely unlinked to any other group
Then you dont run that risk
onyx saddle
that's an idea..
covert nimbus
I am new here, so sorry if I am not actually helping xD
onyx saddle
but they would lose perms if they were added to that group?
no.. you're being helpful.. thanks..
it's more like i'm thinking out loud too 😃
but i think you're right.. add perms to that group that are specific for that group and don;t worry about inheritence
lyric shale
Anyone knows a plugin which displays better the plugin list (alphabetically)?
leaden ocean
Nope
onyx saddle
mod list or plugin list?
you want something like this? http://www.modlister.com/server/ImagineScape
it doesn;t have to link to that website, but it can still make a list of your mods folder.
lyric shale
Plugin list
covert nimbus
@onyx saddle No, they would have all the perms of both groups
Groups dont cancel out
Even if only one is displayed
onyx saddle
ah ok.. 😃
lyric shale
I mean if i type in /pl the output is kind of strange
onyx saddle
where does the /pl command come from? sponge?
onyx saddle
ah.. i don;t know much about spigot/bukkit specifically, always been a bukkit/forge server.
leaden ocean
I couldn't imagine ever going to spigot now. I'd find it too boring after messing with modded mc for so long D:
onyx saddle
me too.. one of my first servers was a bukkit server for me and a few friends.. but once we found out about mcportcentral and modified mods.. we were hooked..
leaden ocean
And, let's be honest. I prefer the sponge community far more than the spigot community.
onyx saddle
i still have anger about the whole evilseph/wolverness bullcrap that went on..
leaden ocean
Yeah...
onyx saddle
so i don;t really have much respect for the bukkit community or any of the left over "leaders"
leaden ocean
I'm just hoping sponge does a good job. It's doing it so far
onyx saddle
i do liek it so far too.. good attitude.
leaden ocean
I lost interest in spigot after the premium plugins were introduced :P
If a plugin is good enough, I'd buy it. But I'd much rather do it somewhere else.
onyx saddle
but one thing that has bothered me.. i've been getting the newsletter for a long time and i never did see any kind of announcement about sponge being more or less ready to use and this is where you as a server admin can find out hwo to use it.. has always been mostly info about developing mods/plugins.
i'd never pay for a plugin.
leaden ocean
Sponge has been ready to use for a very long time. The announcements moved past that stage :P
There are docs, but people don't know how to navigate to them
onyx saddle
but i never saw any announcement in the news letters, i was sort of waiting to find out when it was server ready, cuz ofc i was expecting ti to be like caldron/themros.. a server jar.
i probably would ahve mobved to sponge in 1.7.10 if i knew it was just a mod more or less
leaden ocean
That isn't possible anymore :/ hence why it's a forge mod now
Sponge wasn't a thing in 1.7. It started in 1.8 when cauldron and thermos were abandoned
onyx saddle
yeah true.. it started out in 1.8 but i still would have used it in 1.7.10 if i could have.. 😄
but just saying they could probably get more adopters if they were more agressive about getting out info about how to use it on a server, i'm sure i'm not the only one that expected it to be like cauldron, a server jar
leaden ocean
Yeah, that's true :P when sponge got into the spotlight, I expect they did or they just expected people to read the docs.
onyx saddle
i don;t have time to read docs, i'm a server admin.. i have lots of other work to do 😛
show me the car.. show me where to put in the key and start it.. i'll figure out the rest eventually.. 😄
leaden ocean
I'm also a server admin who handles 7 servers :P I got time for them though
Also, the docs aren't bad https://docs.spongepowered.org/stable/en-GB/
onyx saddle
and i'm not a comp wiz or coder, so sometimes i do feel intimidated.
leaden ocean
That's fine :P the docs are simple for anyone. It's when you get to the api you'll get confused.
onyx saddle
lol.. i'l never get to the api.
onyx saddle
my typing is bad enough, i think autocorrect would just make it unreadable.
leaden ocean
I was on my phone 😛
leaden ocean
my thumbs are too clumsy to deal with a touchscreen
onyx saddle
^
lyric shale
I hadn't never touched sponge
granite hull
the sponge apis quite nice 😛
onyx saddle
i'm never geting near it..
lyric shale
It seems that it doesn't have that many plugins
granite hull
it has the ones you need
onyx saddle
i think the more it's used.. the more likely more plugin would be developed and i don;t think it's meant to be a choice between plugins and mods, just plugins do a much better job at server admin than mods can.
granite hull
it might not have the silly amount of useless plugins that bukkit had but its got whats nessary
onyx saddle
^
granite hull
well technically a mod can do anything a plugin can :p
covert nimbus
We use Sponge and love it
granite hull
its just ALOT more work to use the forge api compared to sponge
covert nimbus
Converting was a pain xD
onyx saddle
from the server admin mods i've tried.. they aren;t even close.
granite hull
yea because forges api is a pain xD
like dont get me wrong its great and all but to add cmds ect is a total pain xD
onyx saddle
i tried getting forge essentials to do soem of the more basic things for 2 weeks and just gave up on it., it really pissed me off when i found out it broke nether portals and they havent; even bothered fixing that.
granite hull
yea i prefer plugins they handle pretty much everything admin wise better
onyx saddle
yep.
granite hull
(and the apis better 😉 )
onyx saddle
it just seemed like to me FE was trying to reinvent the wheel and soem of thier desicions just didn;t make sense.
if you keep developing your mod to make it easy for 12's and piss off the other users then eventually you'll only appeal to 12's.
granite hull
^ yea
onyx saddle
i see a lot of mod devs worrying about them.. i think they figure if they solve thier problems they'll amke it easier for the 12's but it just makes them ask for more.
strong mountain
: Anyone know how to fix this? its really annoying https://pastebin.com/4TE7yuQj
true ether
I spent the day fixing someone's laptop.
They won't explain how, but their hard drive got shocked, and the reader arm touched the disk. They had to ride their bike across town to buy a new hard drive.
The part that took the longest was getting at the drive. There was no bottom access pannel to remove it, so I had to carefully remove the keyboard, take out all the screws, remove the top, take out the drive and put the new one in.
It cost them $75 for the drive. Even though I told them I didn't want money, they will be back tomorrow to pay me...
onyx saddle
they should pay you .. and donate to a charity..
and not ride a bike with a laptop..
they probably wiped out on thier bike and really hurt the laptop.
formal fjord
do i need votifier for SuperBVote?
bleak notch
Nuvotifier with superBVote
true ether
I think they likely were playing a game, and hit the corner of the laptop where the hard drive is out of frusteration/anger and made it jump.
Would I be able to post a request from someone in another Discord that is asking for help? It's not mod related.
twin warren
is it advertising or spam
true ether
She is basically asking to be supported (subscribed to) on YouTube and Twitch because she recently lost her job, and it will help pay bills until she can find another job
That's why I'm asking first.
twin warren
probably counts as both, so no 😛
true ether
Alright. Glad I asked. 😛
gilded nova
Well if they're begging for subs.. then that's a HUGE lie haha
If they needed money, they'd make videos and earn active subs, not beg for random people to simply subscribe...
also, you'd need around 25,000+ active subscribers to make even a bit of a provit from YouTube
Every 2,000 views make you just about $5 (Depending on the campaign, advertisement type, etc.), so yea, simply having another subscriber DEFINATELY will not help 😂
Also, if you think that's NOT alot, consider this;
AdFly - You get traffic to (most the time) malicious advertisements, and they're paying you $5 for 10,000 views, while they're being paid $25-$50 for those advertisements..
What types of social media, or websites, do you guys believe are useful for promotion?
Twitter | Facebook | YouTube | (Pintrest?) | What do you guys think or those, or ?
@true ether most who say that kind of stuff are lying. Also, Twitch/YouTube almost never pays bills. The ad revenue is aweful. You get more from Adfly than YouTube half the time, well at least in my experience.
You gotta keep in mind, this is the internet and you are a pawn to someone else's game. What you just asked is exactly what these people want. They want to spread the word that someone lost their job, or whatever and to help get supporters. Then they magically get their job back or another job. They never lost their job. When I lost my job, I had to get off my ass. Stop streaming and YouTubing and go out and find a job. I got a shitty paying job until I got the one I'm in now where it's a full time job at Chick Fil A (I have previous experience there and they pay me $12/hour so it's comfortable).
Most "rich" YouTubers make money off on sponsors and merch.
Twitch, donations.
gilded nova
I'm wondering if I just found a huge flaw in Minecraft Server Lists 🤔
Can't discuss it because it'd be too bug, but I'd assume they'd be smart enough to stop this glitch from working
@gilded nova the best way to test a flaw is to have others test it to see if it's an isolated issue
I would, but ima keep this secret for now until I try a few things on my localhost 😛
Yikes "The page finished loading in 10.0714 seconds."
How's it looking?
mystic steeple
buttons aren't centered 😛
gilded nova
They are, the pictures just copied a bit incorrectly
for your OCD @mystic steeple 😉
mystic steeple
feels like the rightside still has more space 😛 but looks good tho
gilded nova
It's been SO long and 200+ votes later, FontAwesome has yet to add a Discord icon... -.-
mystic steeple
xD
gilded nova
I had to use the wechat symbol to represent Discord (The chat bubbles)
I'm trying to add as many features as I can without affecting server preformance, like hovering effects on the icons, and 'titles'
mystic steeple
xD
gilded nova
I need to learn a little bit of Python to get the servers information, then to save it into a database to display on the website, since loading just 10 servers MOTD, Players/MaxPlayers, Status would add 10+ seconds to the load time...
gilded nova
That's what makes me mad about websites, especially since i have an extremely slow computer
mystic steeple
I am just looking around for a fight stick. Thinking about buying one
gilded nova
WHAT? xD Fight stick?
mystic steeple
yeah a fight stick
gilded nova
Explain... 🤔
mystic steeple
the controllers people use in fighting games
gilded nova
Ah, like a wii controller case? 😛
mystic steeple
not really
gilded nova
kinda ;p
gilded nova
ooooohhhh
Also, I'm even going as far as adding languages, since there's a large UK, SP, BR Minecraft playerbase..
The only thing is, is I only know English & a little bit of spanish 😂
@gilded nova what are your server's specs?
gilded nova
idek
gilded nova
O.o
How can you not know a servers specs?
If hover effects affect your server that bad...that's sad.
vernal venture
Magic Merlin 👀
true ether
mathew: You get more from Adfly than YouTube half the time, well at least in my experience.
Assuming the viewer doesn't have an ad blocker.
I have link shorteners allowed for minecraft downloads. I used to have youtube unblocked until I found a 45 minute minecrafter video with almost a solid yellow bar. twenty minutes of ads on this one videa. That's when I re-blocked youtube.
tulip mortar
true ether
Oh wow.
gilded nova
@gilded nova I never said it was affecting it, I said I was adding a bunch of features without trying to create lag
gritty tinsel
Lol 
a spcial smiley
gilded nova
@heavy sapphire I always suggest Contabo & OVH for new/small servers for their cheap'ness
leaden ocean
Ovh for cheapness >_>
gilded nova
OVH has some of the worst support, Contabo I haven't had experience with their support yet
leaden ocean
Ovh support has been perfectly fine with us
Meh. Must just depend on who you get a hold of
tepid thorn
Hm, thanks for the info about Contabo - hadn't seen them yet. Currently with OVH, no issues currently, but it looks like Contabo offers more cores & memory for the price. (for dedicated boxes)
twin warren
you get what you pay for -- cliche but it especially applies to rented servers
leaden ocean
Yep. OVH is pretty expensive for what they offer, but they're pretty damn reliable from what I've found. Plus their gaming servers seem pretty decent
tepid thorn
We have 2 of their dedicated gaming servers and I really have no complaints - although we're also fairly small
leaden ocean
32 or 64?
tepid thorn
64
twin warren
they're popular in the MC community because of the free ddos protection they offer
leaden ocean
2 64 can host a lot of servers
I suppose the best setup would be an enterprise package which allows for better upload speeds and more data for hosting databases and bungeecord. Then use the gaming servers just for the actual servers.
I've just checked out Contabo and it seems decent. I'd just be cautious about a catch if there is one because those prices for the hardware are more than decent
Oh wait! Not sure if it's the newest hardware. That'd explain it
fierce vector
all the data centers so far away 😦
tepid thorn
So far location hasn't been an issue for us with OVH - I'm located in the center of the US (Missouri) but using their Canada datacenter and our ping is normally around 35
fierce vector
yea lol im in NZ so OVH have only just put servers into australia which could work for us but i still think owning our own gear and colocating it is cheaper in the long run
leaden ocean
ah, fair enough :/
fierce vector
though our curent gear is coming up for 4 years old so its time to spend some money 😛
last void
Use font awesome for the icons lol
flint sapphire
a vector image format
so the social logos wouldnt look so fucked up
since fonts were never designed to be abused as icons
last void
Hm i use font-awesome and they look awesome i dont know why they are so bad on this screenshot 😄
heavy sapphire
Contabo has 95% uptime
flint sapphire
that sounds pretty bad
true ether
I think it looks bad because of compression.
gilded nova
I've had no downtime at all
near halo
I wonder when someone will create a good and simple economy plugin... (like how LuckPerms is also a good and simple permission plugin)
sterile socket
@twin warren you have done amazing things. especially with the web editing. i love it. thank you
true ether
It's simple on the user's side. Graceful.
It's like a duck.
Graceful and serene on above the water
Paddling like mad under the water.
https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAXHAAAAJGNkOTYyZjlkLWRmZTMtNGI2My1hOGYwLTBjNDRiODM1ZGIzYg.jpg
twin warren
lol
true ether
Luckperms is by far the most user-friendly permission plugin I have ever used.
near halo
@twin warren simple in "easy to use"
(because LuckPerms is easy to use and doesn't need you to configure a bunch of things just to get it working)
twin warren
yeah I was just messing w/ you 😛
near halo
(seriously, why nobody creates a good economy plugin? the only one that is "good" is CraftConomy but it is outdated (it still works but it has some MySQL CPU usage issues))
true ether
I'm not sure if nucleus is planning an economy moduel or not...
gilded nova
I wished there was a good plugin like TokenManager, but updated more often, and could handle multiple currency types...
I'd seriously pay for a plugin like that
true ether
Spigot?
gilded nova
?
I don't mean like go up and hire a developer, I mean I'd pay for a premium plugin like that, I don't pay developers for plugins, I don't trust them to not sell it to someone else
Honest opinions? Anything else I should add (Gametype(s)) ?
stoic hare
@gilded nova The server I help to manage pays developers but before we "hire" them, they agree to a set of terms. I don't deal with the development team myself but that stops them from selling the plugin. Most developers aren't do that either from what I've experienced
gilded nova
I still don't trust anyone haha, that's why I've been teaching myself java
stoic hare
Fair enough lol
We're quite lucky too, our network is large too so we've got players who know how to code and wish to join the development team
They don't wish to be banned so they won't sell them either lol
gilded nova
@near halo what do u look for in an economy plugin that doesn't already exist?
near halo
@gilded nova not that they are bad... is that almost every economy plugin is unmaintained
gilded nova
Isn't vault an economy plugin?
near halo
Nope
It is a plugin that allows other plugins to hook with it
So developers doesn't need to support every single economy plugin when they need to do money related things
gilded nova
So what would be in an economy plugin?
near halo
@gilded nova /money, etc
gilded nova
Is it like shops? Or just a way to like manage money etc
Then other plugins hook into it for shop creation
near halo
@gilded nova managing money
gilded nova
Hmmmm
near halo
I'm currently using CraftConomy
gilded nova
Link?
gilded nova
I don't know why, but my website just stopped being respnsive -.-
Hmmm
So you're looking for a more maintained economy plugin, tempted to start writing one then if it's actually sought after
most people just use Essentials though
Yeah ik
Essentials is horrible tho
Ngl
Essentials, EssentialsX, bEssentials
Yeah it's all horrible imo
to you
Yeah xd
naive elk
It's horrible but works for what's needed
naive elk
For imo in my opinion
gilded nova
And I'm not a kid 😂😂
naive elk
^
near halo
@gilded nova yeah but Essentials' economy is kinda bad
If you have a lot of players the performance of it really goes down
gilded nova
I'll have a look into what an economy plugin does etc and I'll see if I can get round to writing a decent one
However my free time is like 0 ATM, lotssssss of work to do 😂
true ether
If you do follow through with that, if you make is work on Sponge, it would be much appreciated.
left lodge
whats wrong with EconomyLite? it still works 😃
gilded nova
Thing is for an economy plugn would it be better to make it premium but like $2/3
or just open-source and free?
gilded nova
lmao I rated the wrong one
cause someone was saying how they were commenting on the other dudes post
true ether
@gilded nova
In general, I personally would be more willing to donate $20+ when I have it to spare than to pay $2 when I don't have it but need a plugin/mod.
true ether
Does anyone happen to know what the deal is with WorldEdit-Core?
left lodge
what?
true ether
WorldEdit 6.1.7 has a -core file with it.
I'm wondering if I will need to have the core client side, or if it's a server side thing.
Maybe I should do some research. 😛
gilded nova
Does this look professionally made, or nah?
soft topaz
@gilded nova I don't personally like it
gilded nova
That's cause you're mad though 😉
gilded nova
I feel like the green goes good with the minecraft theme, I'm not locked-in on a color scheme though
Lemme see how the gray/blue looks
Not bad actually, the tiny of it just doesn't feel right...
The color is '#2c3540' incase you think you'd be able to find a more suitable color, if you think it looks weird also
@soft topaz should I keep the dividers white, or change them to (navy blue?) also
by the way, anyone that helps me in (almost) any way, feel free to DM me your server IP, and your IGN so I can make a list of people that helped me, and give them some free promoted slots 😛
sterile socket
Anyone know if there is a plugin for bungee servers that would allow you to see ALL players logged in across the network? Instead of just local players? Also show only when they login or out from the network as a whole?
gilded nova
BungeeTabListPlus
If you wanna show like
"Notch disconnected from Factions"
"Notch connected to Creative"
"YourMom connected to TheKitchen"
Then I suggest something like ChatControlPro + ChatControlBungee
sterile socket
I just want to see when they connect to the network. I don't care what server they are on
left lodge
get MultiChat just dont use the chat part 😃
shows when they connect/disconnect to the network
fierce vector
@gilded nova what separates your server list from all the others
gilded nova
The huge difference right now, is the fact that mine has almost no features at the moment.. haha.. ha.. >->
I've been contemplating a "rating system" aside from the votes, where users can review the server (Hence the 5 stars on the promoted servers) give a small review, rating, just for another fun feature I suppose, still haven't thought it out fully
Going to try to make the website run on MySQL information, rather than using PHP and using the users computer to get the servers information.
Going for a simple, clean, easily navigatable looks & features
Just setup a quick report modal for users
Don't worry about it, it's just a little 'special' ...
lyric shale
anyone knows an alternative to customjoinitems?
gilded nova
lyric shale
Thank you 😃
opaque barn
@gilded nova you should have a modded section on your minecraft server list :D
gilded nova
of course, I plan on setting it as a universal listing, so server owners can simply 'tag' their server, to show what type it is, then users can go into a 'categories/tags' section, if they wanted to find something specific
opaque barn
cool will you have reviews?
gilded nova
Yea, I'm adding a voting feature (Votifier) and a review system, that results in stars being added to your server
I'm currently 'sorting' out the sorting system right now 😉 So users can sort servers by rating, votes, players, version, status
opaque barn
version as in minecraft version i assume
make sure multiple versions can be chosen 😃 there are so many ways to support multiple versions
gilded nova
Yes, and of course, my server ran bungee 1.8 through 1.11.2, along with ViaVersion, so I understand the hate when they don't allow multiple versions to be selected...
I'm trying to figure out how to use $_GET along with a secondary $_GET since I'm planning on making the website multilangual, so right now it's
www.domain.com/index.php?lang=en-US
Then when they press a sorting button I want it to add '&sort=ranking' without simply setting it to
/index.php?lang=en-US&sort=ranking
When their language is spanish or something...
opaque barn
cool maybe i could translate finnish for you later 😉
gilded nova
I think I just solved my issue though, by parsing a php language tag through the URL
"Redirect to >> www.domain.com/$lang&$sorting"
Sure, that'd be great, I haven't met any finnish players 🤔
opaque barn
now you have 😛
what are you using for language detection or do you have to choose it manually
gilded nova
manually at the moment, but I'm sure I can do a php detect language type or similar
opaque barn
yep id assume
gilded nova
I just added an ahref to the buttons at the top to set a sorting type, while grabbing their current language type by a variable in their language so it'd keep their language when they switch sorting types
<a href='http://localhost/serverlist/index.php?lang=<?php echo $language["lang-type"]; ?>&sort=ranking'>
opaque barn
$_SERVER['HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE'];
tho might want to loop through available languages
gilded nova
Right now I'm using a simple
<?php
$lang = "en-US"; // Default Language
if(isset($_GET['lang'])){ // If it's specified in URL
$lang = $_GET['lang']; // change it to specified language
}
require("C:/xampp/htdocs/serverlist/languages/".$lang.".php");
?>
opaque barn
cool
gilded nova
Did not know 'onClick' existed until just now 🤔
However, since it doesn't show like a URL, nor do I want it to, ima add » « around the text on hover through css instead
opaque barn
how else would you know when somebody clicks?
opaque barn
ok
gilded nova
I forget how to do the effect since I deleted it from my css 😂 damnit
opaque barn
css is hard :D
gilded nova
Aha got it hover:after + content, and yea, my css is SO messy right now
kinda ugly, since it's on the theader, and makes the boxes larger when you hover, and kinda freaks out 🤔
opaque barn
is it like much bigger or only slightly
gilded nova
Slightly, but it bugs me 😂 I think simply having a background-color change is better
opaque barn
i dont notice it
gilded nova
I removed the adding «» on hover, right now it's just an orange color when you hover over the th
I'll make a gif with it on right now
with onhover
opaque barn
maybe the status could be uptime % and change background color from green to red if online or not
oh yeah thats anoying
gilded nova
When I was setting it up, I spaced out on the servers ip, so I added a modal on banner click, that'll open up the servers information more-detailed, so uptime would be nice to add inside of that more-detailed modal
Also, I haven't worked on coding the system just yet, I think I'm going to have to code it in python or something.
Instead of the servers information being passed through PHP, meaning the client pings the server, adding 15-25+ seconds of page load time, I want a system to automatically scan servers every few minutes, and update a MySQL database with the information "Players | Status | Uptime | Ping" etc
As of right now, the page takes 0.0079 seconds to load 😄 Which I'm very proud of haha
especially since I have an extremely low-end computer
opaque barn
ping is a bit of a contravercial thing because well its just site <-> server
gilded nova
true, so maybe I can add the ping through PHP in the modal
opaque barn
but thats localhost right
gilded nova
Yea
opaque barn
no i meant like who cares about the site -> server ping
gilded nova
Yea, I can make it ping through php though using this function
function ping($server) {
$constructor = 'https://mcapi.ca/query/'.$server.'/info';
$raw = file_get_contents($constructor);
$json = json_decode($raw, true);
return $json['ping'];
}
Which is the client > server, instead of website > server ping
If you wanna test it out for yourself
https://github.com/IndieGuts/MineQuery-Remastered
opaque barn
what voodoo macgic is that
gilded nova
I've learned a lot more about CSS from this project, and I'm super happy about that, cause CSS was always a HUGE pain for me, and it's PHP? 😛
opaque barn
php is server side...
opaque barn
i dont think i have 200~250 ping to my server in france
gilded nova
lookslike I deleted my project I already had setup ;-;
gilded nova
no
and I dunno why it's broken for me now 🤔 http://indieguts.com/
php didn't load right i guess
cause PHP doesn't load in an .html lmao
gilded nova
That was a project a friend made, I don't know if it actually works
You'll also need the core.minequery-remastered.php if it's not in there
gilded nova
yea he derped, he thought I meant make MineQuery a website, when I said EXAMPLE WEBSITE xP
Ima just assume your right though
gilded nova
I know, that website folder he made was just a website to redirect users to the github, he didn't make any actual examples
Well do you know any methods I can use to get the players ping to the server?
opaque barn
no
opaque barn
wait how do i use the minequery ping thingy
gilded nova
There's examples on the github
opaque barn
like i need to print it right
gilded nova
no? question
1sec lol
<?=$minequery::ping("us.mineplex.com"); ?>
Throw that in your index.php
Damniiitttt torrenting website just got shut down as I was watching a movie -.-
opaque barn
<?php // Load MineQuery - Remastered Core
require('/var/www/MineQuery-Remastered/core.minequery-remasteremastered.php
$minequery = new MineQueryRemastered;
<?=$minequery::ping("beyondthebeast.eu"); ?>
?>```Yep
opaque barn
gilded nova
not working for me
opaque barn
its a blank page for me
gilded nova
I found a client-side to server ping example though
Doesn't work for me on my website though 🤔
opaque barn
this is for a website right
ping for a website*
opaque barn
are jsfiddle servers in the us*
bc i think i dont have 300 ping to my server in france
gilded nova
not sure?.. o.0 but it should have been client side
opaque barn
click on Javascript
gilded nova
Oh well, ping isn't that important though
opaque barn
you see there is jQuery
gilded nova
At the moment anyways, it's more of a side-feature
gilded nova
ok peace
gilded nova
I keep adding little fancy features here & there while keeping the preformance and easy-navigation 😛
gilded nova
@gilded nova can I be honest?
Its ugly
Hopefully thats not the final front end
lol its just a table
not the entire web page
Ok good
So mean 💔 lol just kidding 😛
Cuz that looks worse than mcsl lol
Right now I'm just coding a server control since I got a bit side tracked with this new project
Ah
Im making a pet plugin 😄
For mc
Idk if it'll be any good
But im doing it
It's better to code it yourself, rather than use a crap downloaded one
Mhm
Which is why I'm doing ut
It*
Im not gonna put it on spigot lol
Maybe i should.. as a premium resource 😄
But i dont meet the premium resource requirements yet
Anyways I'll stop rambling, good night
I was doing other things lol it's only about 10pm, I'm not going to bed...
I'm giving myself stone from my localhost XAMPP web panel 😂 super pro coding when you get stoned by your server ;p
gilded nova
@gilded nova this is the whole design I've got setup so far, I know the headers horrible, but I haven't thought of a better design just yet...
Can I completely redesign that for u?
@gilded nova
Wow so da rude 😂
What's so wrong with it then
Its only one thing
Thats making it so cringy
The background grey
Is too light
Make it #4C4C4C
Oh I know that, I needed the grey for contrast
I promise it'll be better
Because with the dark footer it just dosent work
Much cleaner already
Maybe 555555
Also, maybe a blushish tint like the footer has
Bluish*
Blue-ish*
It's navy blue though 😛
Then do that
Just a lighter navy
I see no change of the bg
Lemme find u the hex code
;3
little lighter lol
Lemme get out my laptop
Its 1:40 am one sec
what time is it for u @gilded nova
11pm
gg
try #324460
Almost 12, was eating some jelly donuts waiting for you haha
Huge difference, extremely blue
wyt
on the page bg
not the footer
xD
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
actually, do #343e4c
yeah ur footer is good
its just that the page dosen't fit the footer
How's the header space look to you, should I add a small divider, similar to the divider above the footer content, but smaller?
How abt this
can u just send me ur index.html
and I'll fix it
then send it back
xD
Nah 😛
mk
lemme see the header with the new bg color
#webDesigningThruDiscord
actually I'll brb, I'm gonna grab a monster energy drink and some food. I have to be up in 6 hours and it's just easier to stay up all night than be tired
and yes, add that lil divider to the header
Sorry was fixing it 😛
hm...
try #29313d on the page bg
The header just looks so odd to me...
lil less blue