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magic dome
magic dome
What?
ripe marten
same @ionic parrot
magic dome
/lp editor
magic dome
First: Rude
Second: Use a text editor and ftp
ionic parrot
Ik how to do it
buty
In the Luckperms folder there isnt really a file containing permissions or groups
Like for example in Pex theres a permissions.yml file
hasty tree
Useless shit... wow
hidden tendon
Watch some tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=luckperms
hasty tree
You could be a bit more respectful
ionic parrot
all you can do is add Permissons and suffix's
magic dome
https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Storage-types
Again, set the storage-type to yaml and restart the server
hasty tree
Maybe you should read the wiki
minor stream
Or, you know, ^
ionic parrot
No you didnt
minor stream
H2 > yml because there can be no typos in H2
hasty tree
Same thing who cares
hasty tree
Oh fuck up. Lmao
ionic parrot
its like if I said Russia's president is Trump
minor stream
I strongly recommend staying with the default storage type unless you are moving your config out to an external database.
ionic parrot
Why?
minor stream
Stability and maintainability, chiefly
magic dome
No the option in the config-yml is actually storage-method
again, sorry for my typo
minor stream
It "works", yes, but it has its limitations. For example, yaml can be far slower since it has to parse an entire text file for every permissions check.
minor stream
LP is simple and good.
minor stream
It works right out of the box, has an outstanding command structure, and it even includes an online editor for bulk operations.
hasty tree
Feel free to go use groupmanager or something
magic dome
LuckPerms is one ( if not THE ) most advanced Permission plugin that exists currently, it allows easy bungee setup and a lot of options for customization
hasty tree
I wish
minor stream
Ngl the hardest thing about LP is that you have to do initial setup using the console.
hidden tendon
Powelfullperms was also pretty good. 😃
ionic parrot
The only advantage lp has is the support
minor stream
But that can be as little as a single command if you follow the guide.
toxic wagon
@ionic parrot If a yaml file is how you define which plugin is better than another than you have 0 idea. Luckperms is better than all other permission plugins because it is feature rich, future proof and adaptable to all servers. It even has to power to migrate from the outdated no longer supported permission plugins
magic dome
LP is Free and offers a lot of possibilities
ionic parrot
I never said it depends on the yaml
minor stream
No, but you were complaining that it was bad because you couldn't find a permissions.yml file
ionic parrot
But I mostly use yaml, along with a lot of people. And I dont feel like using a editor on chrome
sudo no
I was complaining because you need to enable yaml for some retarded reason
Yaml should be the default
magic dome
No it shouldnt
toxic wagon
@ionic parrot A lot of people came asking about the yaml then they found the online editor and loved it. But it's your choice. If you want to use yaml than there's no harm in it.
minor stream
Adds another checkmark to the "LuckPerms is trash because it doesn't use yaml" box
hidden tendon
Lool retho
magic dome
Please be a bit nicer, you dont see us insulting the work of others, do you?
winged nova
hi i can give perms to execute only one time?
magic dome
So the web editor magically appeared?
minor stream
I get what you mean, retho. I came from pex and at first the lack of a yaml file was concerning to me. I often had to go in to the yaml file and fix things with luck perms and I was worried about what I'd have to do with luck perms.
The answer was simple: you don't have to worry about it.
And since then, I've not looked back.
toxic wagon
@ionic parrot Look, either you will use luckperms and the yaml or explore other options that luckperms has. Or you don't use luckperms in which case there's no point talking about it.
ionic parrot
Well I cant really use anything
because pex is not supported
and all the other ones are trash
Lp is just confusing and it has too much stuff packed into it
Its not bad
bitter coral
What advantanges yaml has, if there are a things like bulkedit, a nice chat ui, someone even made a gui controllung plugin and another and groupmananger commands?
toxic wagon
@winged nova There isn't really a way to say one time use only. Only long limites but that's no a bad feature idea.
minor stream
I think if you sit down and play with lp, you'll find that it feels a lot like pex except that it's far more stable.
minor stream
At least, that was my epxerience.
toxic wagon
@ionic parrot what did you use before lp
oblique pebble
so your problem is your resistant to change 😛
toxic wagon
There's a command equivialnts page on the wiki to help you get use to the commands. The syntax isn't that different really.
ionic parrot
I dont like using commands I prefer just editing it
minor stream
I think you'll like lp then. The command structure is nearly identical, it supports contexts, and you don't have to worry about things messing up.
toxic wagon
@ionic parrot there's also the web editor. Have you actually looked at It?
ionic parrot
Yes
bitter coral
Latest update was december 2017, the dev added that LuckPerms can be used now
ionic parrot
Tobi ik
hasty tree
iTs tRaSh
magic dome
The only thing you can't edit from the web editor is the LP config file
magic dome
Uhhh .. okay what is your standpoint now?
distant dune
hey is there a way to check if groups has caps in its name
hasty tree
I honestly dont know
toxic wagon
Wait you're complaining that you don't wanna use commands and like editing files. But you say yaml is bad?
magic dome
@distant dune I think LP had RegEx support
hasty tree
What
bitter coral
He says that the lp yaml structure is bad
hasty tree
Lmao there really is no pleasing this guy
distant dune
wat does that mean lol
magic dome
yaml is the same and always will be the same lol
magic dome
RegEx allows you to have such things as "starts with Z"
ionic parrot
It has several files for each part of LP
hasty tree
That doesn't mean shit
ionic parrot
Like
It has different files for every group
which is annoying
becasue in pex for example all of the groups are in 1 file which makes it easy to edit
hasty tree
Oh no, something is different. Better call it "bad"
magic dome
Here is a great page to learn a bit about RegEx
https://regexr.com/
@distant dune
hasty tree
Obviously
ionic parrot
Lmao
hasty tree
You should fix your attitude
toxic wagon
@ionic parrot Look either use luckperms and put in feature requests to help improve things and stop complaining or go somewhere else.
bitter coral
If you have something like Notepad++ it is just 1 click more
magic dome
The seperation into multible files actually makes more sense then storing it in one
toxic wagon
@bitter coral ew notepad++
ionic parrot
but unfortunatally its more annoying than you think
Because having to close and reopen the same file several times is annoying
bitter coral
Notepad++ just switches files
toxic wagon
@ionic parrot Use yaml-combined storage method. It moves them all into a single file for groups and one for users.
ionic parrot
Imortal I dont feel like downloading third party stuff just to make 1 thing work, if its a good plugin it should just have that integrated to start with
hasty tree
It's not third party lmao
bitter coral
You can even have more than 1 file at the same time at the desktop, with np++ or atom, etc.
toxic wagon
It's not third party. It's an option in the config.
ionic parrot
Tobi I cant
bitter coral
What Editor do you use?
magic dome
The more you talk the more I belive you just troll around
toxic wagon
Back in the day I used notepad++. Never again. I love vs code now
magic dome
I agree VS Code is awesome
minor stream
I still use notepad++ for situations where notepad would be good but I want just a bit of syntax highlighting. If I'm actually editing things though? vscode wins hands-down.
toxic wagon
@ionic parrot Then go use it. And stop complaining here.
ionic parrot
Lol im jk
I just wont use a permisisons plugin
ill just send players the command myself
Because obviously every permissions plugin is useless
minor stream
Oh, going with permissions.txt in the server root? Good plan.
It's clearly the superior system
ionic parrot
No
toxic wagon
If that's how you think than good luck with a server. Cya then. You obviously have no point being here
magic dome
Ok then don't use LP, use something else and please leave
ionic parrot
Multicraft Scheduled comamnds is the way to go
minor stream
Players must add a command to a queue to be able to perform a command. Perfect.
ionic parrot
Ye lol
toxic wagon
@ionic parrot If you're not going to use luckperms please leave the discord as it's pointless for you being in the luckperms discord if you don't use it.
bitter coral
Multicraft.... scheduled commands, how players can interact with things like worldguard.region.bypass
magic dome
I do complain a lot about a lot of stuff, but what you do is just annoying
minor stream
I'm just prototyping an extension to the web editor.
magic dome
Ohhhh .. What are you trying out? 😄
ionic parrot
How to integrate the web editor into pex
hidden tendon
Is there a reason why it not will show all essentials comms
http://prntscr.com/mil6jw
magic dome
Easy: Ya can't
minor stream
It does that, Zep. I noticed that the first time I tried to use the editor.
bitter coral
It'll just show already checked perms
ionic parrot
Rainbow you can, a third party plugin
minor stream
In fact, a lot of essentials nodes don't show up on the command line either.
bitter coral
Not "unkown" ones
minor stream
For instance, essentials.invsee.others isn't there.
That's not a LP issue though, it's because it's not in the plugin.yml for essentials.
bitter coral
It can be there, if it is beeing checked
magic dome
I always thought it was a preset of permissions built into the editor
nice to know that now
bitter coral
No, it are perms LuckPerms recognizes while the Server runs
minor stream
For the editor, that's probably the case. I don't know if it knows what plugins are on your server.
bitter coral
Not a inbuilt system
minor stream
But for the in-game command, I do believe it parses each plugin's plugin.yml to find out what nodes are available for that plugin.
At least, I can't think of any other way it does it, but I've not looked either.
hasty tree
The editor and command autocomplete will only show permissions that have been checked since the last server restart
Good way to generate a list is by running /help but that still wont grab everything
minor stream
Oh cool, good to know.
Anyways, what I was writing up was a prototype for a system that would allow bulk adding of permissions. I saw a complaint earlier that adding a bunch of permissions through the editor was painful because it involved a lot of clicking. So I thought of a system which is similar to bulk importing domain names.
perm[ true|false[ context]]
essentials.fly
essentials.build false
essentials.gamemode true world=creative
All three lines would be valid, and it would act like the command line where leaving true or false off defaults to true and context defaults to global. My thinking was you could paste several permission nodes in here, even with tabs or hyphens left over from yaml, and it would clean that up and add it into the graphical node representation we use now. From there you can finely tune anything that needs tuning and then go about business as normal.
Any thoughts on this system? I don't intend it to be a replacement for converting from another plugin, but perhaps it can be good for importing large groups of permission nodes at a single time, since currently the web editor can involve a lot of clicking.
hasty tree
We will be adding that at some point
toxic wagon
"At some point"
hasty tree
Shut up lol
minor stream
I'd be willing to take a crack at a PR, but I wanted to get thoughts on this system first.
hidden tendon
This channel is better then Netflix without chill haha
hasty tree
I was going to rewrite the whole web editor tbh
magic dome
It was written in NodeJS, right?
minor stream
Oh, that works. I would recommend writing it in asp.net core, though you're mostly Java developers, so you would likely just scoff at the idea of C# 😆
hidden tendon
Node is the way forward
south sierra
oh ok
hasty tree
I will be using Vue.js
magic dome
alright
hasty tree
Think I'll start on it now tbh. Haha
minor stream
Hmm... maybe I'll get a little crazy and write an Electron shell, for those who like desktop-based administration.
magic dome
owo
hidden tendon
Turbo how does the per server perms work in the editor. Do i need to type the server name as it is in the bungee conf?
hasty tree
it's the same name that you've given in the LP config (at the top)
has nothing to do with bungee config
hidden tendon
ok
foggy quartz
A player on my server doesn't have the [member] to his gamertag name. Just says (muted ---). Any reason?
Also another player has &c<some letters>&c [member]
hidden tendon
Is he the only one without a tag/prefix
foggy quartz
yep
foggy quartz
Also he said he accidently turned on airplane mode
hidden tendon
What kind of airplane mode? like on the phone?
foggy quartz
I thought he was hacking. I'm worried cos I had to move my antihacking plugin as it was stopping people from moving, but the guy seems genuine and wants to help on the server.
next stump
How to make a rank the default?
hasty tree
!default
wanton stratusBOT
minor stream
When you view it from an active directory standpoint, it makes sense there too. That's something I need to add to that guide draft...
fringe hinge
Hey, I have a question. Say I have a permission set in group a, and the same permission set to false in group b. Which one would be used?
hasty tree
you haven't mentioned anything about inheritance
does group b inherit group a?
which group does the user inherit?
fringe hinge
Sorry, neither group inherits the other, the player is in both groups
hasty tree
then it depends which group weighs higher
fringe hinge
Okay thanks, what if say user was only in group a
Group a inherits group b, which has a permission set to false
Group b inherits group c, which has the same permission set to true?
hasty tree
it all comes down to weights, which ever group has the highest weight will take priority
fringe hinge
Okay so in that case, if group c had a higher weight the player in group a will have the permission set to true for them?
hasty tree
yes though you want your inherited groups to be lower than their children, in this example group A should weigh higher
a typical setup would be
group a (10) -> group b (20) -> group c (30)
where group a is the first/lowest in line of inheritance and group c is the last/highest
fringe hinge
Okay three more questions, sorry, my understanding of how inheritance and which permission takes priority over which is a bit fuzzy =p
So if I had group owner, and obviously group owner inherits the permissions from group helper, I'd want group owner to have a higher weight?
Why did you decided to use weights at 10, 20, 30? Does it matter? Or would weights 1, 2, 3 be perfectly fine?
Does weight also come to inheritance rules explain on the wiki? Like if a group had a higher weight with permission * set, and another group with a lower weight had some other permission set to false, would the weight make the difference there, or would it be wildcards and regular permissions
hasty tree
You would want owner to have a higher weight, yes.
It doesn't matter what increments you give you your weights, though it is recommended to give yourself room for expansion which is why I did 10,20,30, as it means you can add groups in between and not have to re-shuffle everything around to make them fit (could add a group between group a and b with a weight of 15).
Weight is mentioned a few times in the wiki but not it's not very in-depth. I don't think it's even mentioned in the permission calculation section, which is something you probably should read as it mentions things about wild cards (which have less priority over explicit permissions).
https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Advanced-Setup#permission-calculation
fringe hinge
Okay, thank you very much
nocturne owl
I am the only one on my server that has the weird prefix. The chat format is fine.
There is nothing wrong with essentials.
fringe hinge
@hasty tree do you know if it's possible to add multiple default groups that would be given to players when they join for the first time.
wanton stratusBOT
Hey MrWardy! Please don't tag staff members.
fringe hinge
Oh sorry, my bad O_O
hasty tree
Yep just add multiple groups as parents to the default group
foggy quartz
Can someone help me:
When I'm in default group and I want to be to be in the Owner group.
Whats the command to add me to the Owner group
foggy quartz
Thanks
thin niche
so whats the easiest way to remove everyone from a group? I tried just removing the group but it didnt work
toxic wagon
Use bulkupdate commands
thin niche
thanks
lapis ibex
@nocturne owl does the prefix show correctly when running /lp user <user> info?
@foggy quartz I'd highly recommend you read this page:
!usage
wanton stratusBOT
:paperclip: https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Usage
exotic portal
If I'm using two BungeeCord proxies hooked the RedisBungee, for the messaging service, should I use redis or sql?
Also how do I do the code thingy here?
fluid stone
I return. Is vault required on a forge server still for the chat-side stuff? I have sponge already, just curious so I don't muck it up.
lapis ibex
@fluid stone no. Don't use Bukkit/Spigot plugins for Sponge. And second Sponge has the functionality of Vault built in
fluid stone
Oh! That's fantastic to know. Thank you kindly.
lapis ibex
If you have redis setup already, I'd use that
exotic portal
Yeah I do
exotic portal
Which is more efficient though?
exotic portal
Alright
lapis ibex
Though not worth to setup redis just for the messaging service
exotic portal
No it's because I have two proxies
lapis ibex
All good
All I'm saying is, it's not worth to setup redis just to use the messaging service redis. If you have redis setup already, use that, if not use sql
main wind
How to give all rights to the group?
minor stream
Just for luckperms or for all plugins?
minor stream
Sure thing
thin niche
tried to build edit groups of users with /lp bulkupdate all delete "permission == group.vip" but did work ._.
main wind
For plugin GriefPrevention
toxic wagon
@thin niche what are you trying to do
thin niche
remove group.blue from all users that have it
toxic wagon
@thin niche in console do lp bulkupdate all delete "permission == group.blue"
thin niche
oh has to be in console?
toxic wagon
Yes
minor stream
There's no formalized best practice yet (afaik), but for the draft I'm writing, issuing nodes explicitly is preferred as it's more maintainable, even if it's more work to start with.
For admins, griefprevention has griefprevention.admin and for users, they have griefprevention.user
thin niche
damn trying to do it in a command block 😦
toxic wagon
Then run the confirm command it gives you @thin niche
minor stream
A lot of plugins have been moving to these psuedo-permissions as granting * or plugin.* tends to break things. As an example, see this FAQ entry from HeroChat:
Q: Why are my admins kicked out of every channel when they relog?
A: You're probably using PEX and you've probably given your admins * as a permission. This means they are given the herochat.force.leave.* permission and are forced out of every channel when they log in. You'll need to stop granting * or negate the herochat.force.leave.* permission to fix this.
Otherwise, they recommend issuing specific nodes explicitly.
@main wind
fluid stone
Oh. Do I need to set up...all the things before I can even use help? I only did the first initial setup command thus far. D:
minor stream
/help should be something all players have by default.
That said, some plugins restrict what can be seen based on permission checks.
fluid stone
yeah it says I don't have access to that.
minor stream
Ensure you have access to minecraft.command.help
hasty tree
use verbose to see which permission it should be
fluid stone
Er. I'm really not good with this. How would I do that?
hasty tree
!verbose
wanton stratusBOT
:paperclip: https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Verbose
fluid stone
This shit makes me feel stupid, honestly.
minor stream
If you need clarification on something, let us know.
fluid stone
Oh I figured out how verbose works
minor stream
👍
main wind
i want disable pvp in private, how to? GriefPrevention
swift shuttle
Question, how do i add a user to a certaint group?
wanton stratusBOT
:paperclip: https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Usage
toxic wagon
Apply the prefix to the group then use a chat plugin to show it in chat.
swift shuttle
Do you know any chat plugins that are compatible?
toxic wagon
Any really.
swift shuttle
And i can't get some essentialsx commands added to a group,
probably doing it wrong,
swift shuttle
I already got EssentialsXChat, just don't understand how to use it at all
fluid stone
Not sure if here is the best place to ask. I've added a homes plugin, and am not sure how to up the amount of homes per-rank. Is that even an LP thing?
Do you have the other EssentialsX thing?
swift shuttle
I do have the other EssentialsX things,
fluid stone
Then as far as I know, it should do it's thing on it's own.
swift shuttle
That's in Essentials if i'm right^ (If you're using EssentialsX)
fluid stone
At least, it did when I ran it on my server before swapping to forge.
Once you add the prefix/suffix, the display name/colour and give a user that group it just displayed fine for me.
swift shuttle
Whenever i touch the EssentialsXChat part the config breaks
fluid stone
mm.
swift shuttle
Line 545-548 for the home thing you asked about in Essentials Config
hasty tree
then you are editing it wrong
fluid stone
Yeah
swift shuttle
Obviously xD
fluid stone
and I'm not using Essentials.
Not anymore.
But erm.
Which part of your edit is breaking it?
Because really the only thing I ever edited was the default OP colour(red)
swift shuttle
This is the basic config not edited
As soon as i remove one of the hashtags or replace the top format with the one bellow it
it all just breaks
fluid stone
Well.
I never touched that bit, so i'm afraid I can't help as I never needed to touch it. I just did the "&d[Role name]" as the prefix and it appended on it's own.
swift shuttle
I'm just gonna test some stuff then :P
fathom minnow
@swift shuttle stop your server remove the <> then start your server up again
prefix's and suffix's work with the {DISPLAYNAME}
fluid stone
all praise
swift shuttle
Made a backup to be sure
fathom minnow
otherwise a thing that happened to me a while back is put a # in front of the top format and un # the format underneath it and remove everything until it looks the same as the top format
just without the <>
swift shuttle
Well it atleast says "Default" now
fluid stone
Also I'll rephrase my question. Added what seems to be the only Homes plugin on Sponge. I'm not sure how to up the amount of homes per-rank. Is that even an LP thing? Or do I fiddle with the config of the homes plugin, which has...well very little options?
swift shuttle
So that's good
fathom minnow
@swift shuttle is your group default?
swift shuttle
Guess so xD
fathom minnow
@fluid stone ive never used psonge so cant help you sorry
@swift shuttle well try changing the prefix for a dif group then setting you to that group if your prefix's etc work
you know youve done it right
fathom minnow
what do you mean dissapeared
swift shuttle
It doesn't show up anymore whenever i do /plugins
swift shuttle
I tried running a command
fathom minnow
also make sure your jar is actually installed incase u deleted it by accident
foggy quartz
How I can do when a player is new receives the rank "King"
fathom minnow
have you set a prefix for owner rank
swift shuttle
Not sure how to,
fluid stone
create group
fathom minnow
@foggy quartz if you want them to automatically receive a rank set that group as the default group or just use the current default group 😃
fathom minnow
@swift shuttle mind sending a pic of what you mean real quick and also
https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta
fluid stone
this one
fathom minnow
oof
fathom minnow
got me
foggy quartz
How i can set a default group ?
swift shuttle
I just did this /lp group owner meta addprefix 100 "&c[Owner]"
swift shuttle
Didn't work xDD
foggy quartz
but, i have rename the default group
fluid stone
Uh. Don't rename it, just change what the displaying prefix is.
And did you create the group first, @swift shuttle
swift shuttle
Yeah i did
fathom minnow
fluid stone
did youcheck in listgroups
swift shuttle
fathom minnow
personally i prefer to use the editor for the prefix btw
ambiorix did you set yourself as the owner group before testing
swift shuttle
Yep
fluid stone
What's it saying when you try the command?
swift shuttle
Which command?
swift shuttle
fluid stone
So it has it
swift shuttle
Then idk why it doesn't work
fluid stone
yeah
fluid stone
dont forget the gravekey escapes commands
swift shuttle
fathom minnow
whats your chat format plugin
fluid stone
Does default have higher weights?
fathom minnow
mccree its a dif problem
fluid stone
Pretty sure it's essentialsx
swift shuttle
If that helps
fathom minnow
its not luckperms because i know for a fact that [hub] only shows when using multiverse
swift shuttle
Yeah i have Multiverse
fathom minnow
mind sending us the top part of your multiverse config
fluid stone
Currently out of my depth as fluff multiverse
swift shuttle
oh lol 1 sec
quaint anvil
hey so I'm using townychat, I just created a new path and my prefix's no longer show up while being in that path, suffix's work just no prefix.
fathom minnow
stop your server first
swift shuttle
*oh shit&
fathom minnow
then edit multiverse
then once its edited start her back up again
@swift shuttle
@quaint anvil cant help you sorry as i dont use townychat 😦
swift shuttle
Changed from True to False
fluid stone
Nor do I, apologies Stutter.
swift shuttle
also removed [%world%]
fathom minnow
remove the %chat% aswell
fluid stone
can you feel it now mr krabs
fathom minnow
cause multiverse has a nice lil annoying thing called reloading ur config if u restart but it doesnt if u stop then start
ok talk in chat then send pic
fathom minnow
does ur default group have the tag default
and atleast we got rid of the hub thing
quaint anvil
fixed my own problem somehow\
swift shuttle
Yep displayname is default
fluid stone
Proud of you son
quaint anvil
Its okay, you're busy!
Figured I'd try setting the priority to 2, apparently something is taking up 1 although I cleared all prefixes with the priority of 1 with the group I'm using
swift shuttle
quaint anvil
Also I can't seem to do a CName redirect with buycraft? I set the target to my store address and it gives me a 404\
fathom minnow
try setting default groups prefix to something different then talking in chat
quaint anvil
I know this isn't the buycraft discord but maybe you guys can help lol
fathom minnow
if it doesnt change its your chat format
quaint anvil
./lp group default meta addprefix
fathom minnow
^
quaint anvil
1*
press 1 after addprefix then type the prefix
Use quotations if you want to use spaces
fathom minnow
whats your chat format again
swift shuttle
So then it shouldn't show up..
swift shuttle
EssentialsXChat
quaint anvil
You probably have the group name instead of a general Displayname shown
swift shuttle
Let me check
quaint anvil
Find the chat formatting in the config and show us a pic 😃
swift shuttle
fathom minnow
'{DISPALYNAME} {MESSAGE}'
quaint anvil
That'll be the ticket
fathom minnow
oops typo
quaint anvil
displayname includes the ranknames and everything
fathom minnow
restart the server once its saved
quaint anvil
or do /ess reload
swift shuttle
Restarting
fathom minnow
reloads break stuff*
quaint anvil
true
quaint anvil
I'm far too lazy so if I can reload individual plugins I do lol
quaint anvil
if it's a big edit then yeah I'll restart but otherwise I usually reload the plugin if there's a command implemented
fathom minnow
swift shuttle
Let me guess, i needed that the whole time?
fathom minnow
download install restart
yeah for the prefix's to work
but we also got rid of the other stuff for you 😃
swift shuttle
I feel like such a noob rn
swift shuttle
I used to make Garry's Mod servers, god that seems so much easier compared to this
fluid stone
its okay.
swift shuttle
It works now
fluid stone
I'm not great with this either
:^) I helped with p much the only stuff i knew
I'm also paying my host to set up my permissions for me because I absolutely cannot
swift shuttle
If i could find the right command strings
i could do it
but i can't find the right command strings
fluid stone
Im just old and miss PEx at heart.
fathom minnow
@swift shuttle so all good?
swift shuttle
For now yeah :D
Thanks
Actually
Multiverse portals
Is there a fixed version?
swift shuttle
Can you use warps as replacement for Multiverse?
swift shuttle
well, i probably shouldn't take on such a big challenge..
Maybe just a normal factions server or smthing would be easier
swift shuttle
And i can't get the prefix for Admins to work
swift shuttle
Maybe got the solution
fathom minnow
“If you have an idea that you genuinely think is good, don’t let some idiot talk you out of it.” -Stan lee
basically follow what you believe and dont give up if you think multiverse would be cool do it and dont fall into me saying warps xd
fluid stone
It's probably easier to do it that way
fathom minnow
yeah it may be easier but is it better
swift shuttle
Yeah i know, but wouldn't it be too hard for me to setup a Hub, Factions, Skyblock name it
fluid stone
I'd say so.
fathom minnow
choose ideas that go with your server not what are easy
swift shuttle
Got the Admin prefix to work btw
fathom minnow
well ive seen some crazy people do 1 server but they aint the best
so id recommend a network + its a good learning cruve if u havent set 1 up
swift shuttle
I want the best quality though
fluid stone
oooof
swift shuttle
what is Cruve xD
fathom minnow
curve*
fluid stone
Sounds nutty, I'll stick to being a simple old lady
fathom minnow
lol
swift shuttle
well i kinda got into the "Flow" of making prefixes so i got my motivation back :P
fluid stone
You got this 👏
swift shuttle
And is it possible to get it into the "player list"?
fluid stone
With a plugin, I believe.
It'll be something that mods "tab" so search for that, I suppose.
hasty tree
there's one called TAB
just google 'tab spigot'
it changes the name tag above players heads too
swift shuttle
Im such a melon rn i forgot im running spigot
theres me downloading stuff for/from bukkit
hasty tree
spigot is bukkit so it doesn't matter
swift shuttle
Thank god xD
swift shuttle
@fathom minnow @fluid stone ty for the help
fluid stone
:)
fathom minnow
@swift shuttle np
minor stream
Is your database on the same host as your minecraft server?
minor stream
That throws up some huge red flags for me but okay.
Find whatever IP or domain you had your server pointing to for its sql service and from the server running your minecraft server, ping that address and make sure it's routable.
If it's not, you'll need to ask your sql host what's up
And then, I recommend hosting your own SQL server, either on the same host with your minecraft server or else on another shared host.
exotic portal
How do I host my own MySQL server?
minor stream
exotic portal
yeah i saw that from before
minor stream
You'll probably want to use the MariaDB distro, or else Postgre assuming LuckPerms supports it.
How are you hosting your minecraft server? Is it a VPS where you have shell access or are you going through a dedicated Minecraft host?
exotic portal
I'm hosting my Minecraft server on a VPS.
My VPS's OS is Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, and I'm using the Pterodactyl.io control panel.
Which one?
minor stream
I can't say I'm familiar with that control panel. I assume you're running Windows on your local desktop, so if you are, you'll want to download and install putty and connect to your VPS through ssh. Then, you'll run shell commands on your VPS to install MariaDB.
https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-mariadb-on-ubuntu-18-04/#installing-mariadb-on-ubuntu-18-04
exotic portal
Can I setup MariaDB on my main computer then configure it to my VPS?
minor stream
This'll walk you through installation. Follow the guide in the linked section, then skip the section "Installing MariaDB on Ubuntu 18.04 from the MariaDB Repositories" and go to "Securing MariaDB". Once that's done, you'll want to export your database from your current MySQL hosting service and then import it into the database running on your VPS.
And what do you mean?
exotic portal
yeah that's what i did i use bitvise
like can i install mysql on my main computer first?
i don't wab
n't to install it on my vps
minor stream
Why would you install MySQL on your desktop? You won't be able to connect your VPS to the MySQL instance on your desktop.
minor stream
Why open a port to the entire internet when you can just put your SQL server on your VPS host?
Also, are you saying that you're hosting your host is a VM running in HyperV/VMWare Workstation?
Or are you paying for a VPS host?
minor stream
The easiest option would be to install MySQL on the same host as your Minecraft server and then point LuckPerms to 127.0.0.1:3306 or localhost:3306
exotic portal
alright
minor stream
Then you don't have to worry about port forwarding and the headache that is.
exotic portal
Yeah
minor stream
You can skip putty then if you have direct console access.
Just follow the guide in that link and migrate your database.
exotic portal
I use Bitvise
minor stream
Never heard of it. Putty is the standard afaik, but if it works then it works.
That link will guide you through exporting your database from your mysql host and importing it locally.
Well, it'll give you the export and import steps. The rest you'll have to figure out on your own. But it's just a .sql file so nothing too painful.
exotic portal
But wait, if my VPS is dual-booted with Windows 10 anyways, why should I worry about where to host my SQL server?
Isn't it all on 127.0.0.1?
minor stream
If you're dual booting, then your standard desktop and your server host are just sharing the same hardware, but not (necessarily) at the same time. 127.0.0.1 and localhost are just network addresses that tell traffic it doesn't leave the system.
Think of them as two separate computers. If your minecraft server host asks for localhost, it gets itself. It will never get your desktop. Likewise, if your desktop asks for localhost, then it will get itself, never your minecraft server host.
If you want them to communicate with each other, then you will need to find their network addresses, typically 192.168.101.0/24 or 10.0.0.0/8
Sorry, I realized that may not make much sense. I've not slept yet and I'm speaking network.
Since they're both hosted on your internal network, it doesn't much matter, but hosting the mysql server on your minecraft server host will allow you to connect to it easily and it ensures common services are together. That said, I think you'll have a far easier time doing this if you did this as a VM, either with HyperV or VMWare Workstation. But dual booting works just as well I guess.
exotic portal
Alrigjt. Thank you for the help!
minor stream
If I can clarify anything, let me know. Being half asleep isn't the best time for me to explain things 😅
Mmm pizza
tropic crow
Hi, I'm currently using Luck Perms and the server is Rank UP. We are using command "lp user (user) set (rank)" at the moment to set the rank as the players rank up. Well, that's working fine but we have a VIP system, donator role. The VIP role is a parent and I wanted to know which command I should use to rank up the players in a way that they only lose the previous rank from the parent list, with the new one as a primary group.
manic grove
how to move everyone from one group to another?
i want to move everyone from "vipfree" to "membro" group
I've deleted "vipfree" group but players still are on it, what
someone can help me?
fathom minnow
mind sending it showing that vipfree is deleted
manic grove
yeah but players still log in and they're on "vipfree" group
and vipfree are deleted
wtf
fathom minnow
@tropic crow https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Bulk-Editing try that
manic grove
they should be moved for default or other
fathom minnow
have you tried restarting the server
manic grove
yes
i also runned bulkupdate "lp bulkupdate all delete "permission == group.vipfree"
tropic crow
@fathom minnow Only changing the primary group worked but the previous rank continuous. Thanks.
fathom minnow
@manic grove ok i genuinely have no idea how to fix it so im not gonna say anything incase it makes it worse might needa wait for a mod
@tropic crow so your all good?
tropic crow
@fathom minnow Yes for now, thanks!
foggy quartz
Hm
How can I disable the /calc ?
I mean, the permission is not from WE
and not from Nucleus (I checked their wiki)
But, everyone knows what that command can do, right ?
vapid owl
Anybody knows how to delete all player information using bulkupdate?
foggy quartz
Wtf bro
tidal sandal
how do I remove a permission from anybody (online & offline players)?
foggy quartz
Remove it from the group directly bro wtf
tidal sandal
I mean, if I added that permission manually
like /lp user <player> permission set <perm>
There's like 50 players that have a certain permission which I want to remove from them
But because I did not use a group for that permission in the past (my mistake)
I want to remove that permission from anybody
(can't remember the exact usernames)
I guess I could /lp search <permission> and remove them manually
mossy sequoia
You could use bulkupdate for that 🤔
wary loom
Hello. I'm a Nukkit user and from my timings , luckperms is doing lag to my server. Can you make something, please? Thank you so much for your help and for your plugin!
My server just was online for 2:30h and just 2-3 players entered, so i don't think is because handling ..
foggy quartz
Go check it out: https://kots-libramont.be/
wary loom
And please tag me when you are gonna answer, thank you 😃
mossy quartz
I have a question. I'm running the Sponge version of LP and I was wondering how I can set different amounts of homes per rank? This rank is supposed to have 50 homes but my players can only set 3 like the default rank. http://prntscr.com/miu3ro
I'm unsure if I have to give it a weight or what the formatting for the cmd is to give it a weight
regal cloak
hello guys
i dont know why but today my faction server get crash
i think it was luckperms
look at this
delicate stream
you have two plugins both saying the same thing: your clock changed by 4+ minutes, either there is something wrong with your system, or your server is heavily overloaded in general
minor stream
I ran into an issue trying to do that using default as the starting group for that.
default -> donator1 -> donator...n
default -> moderator -> admin
When you promote on one track, it grants the next highest rank and removes the previous, which means it removes membership in the default group.
The only way I've found to do this is to remove default from the tracks and then, as applicable, add the user to the first rank of the track manually.
minor stream
I would create a dummy starting group for each track then leverate rules. This dummy starting group would have no perms of its own and no meta, and would just be a placeholder.
Let me see if I can find the entry on these.
swift shuttle
@fathom minnow Do you think it could work out? Like one server; Hub, Factions, Skyblock etc
minor stream
One of hte mods may be able to fill you in more on this feature. I'm not sure if there's further documentation on it or where to put it.
In your case, you'd want to leave the default group alone and just add the dummy groups to the user. This script is run every time a user logs on, so it should get everyone pretty quickly
quaint anvil
i need help
ASAP
players are quitting as soon as they join
I can't make a default group
how do I do that
do I actually have to manually promote someone to the ladder every time they join? this plugin fucking sucks
fathom minnow
@swift shuttle depends really on advertising etc
just remember a bungeecord server
swift shuttle
@fathom minnow wym “remember a bungeecord server”
fathom minnow
@swift shuttle a bungeecord server is what links all thhe servers together
'
BungeeCord enables you to create a Network and to connect your Minecraft (Spigot) servers together. Your players will be able to move from a server to another by using portals or commands without logging off. To work, BungeeCord need to be linked to other Minecraft servers, hosted at OMGSERV or elsewhere. Our interface provides simplified management that will help you link your Minecraft servers to your Network."
'
ill explain it better if u need when i wake up its 4am gn
mossy quartz
Whenever someone has a chance to look at my problem, just ping me. c: It's been like 3 hours so I might move on to other things until later.
fathom minnow
@mossy quartz id ask it again
as that was a while back and sorry i dont use sponge so cant help you
mossy quartz
I have a question. I'm running the Sponge version of LP and I was wondering how I can set different amounts of homes per rank? This rank is supposed to have 50 homes but my players can only set 3 like the default rank. I'm unsure if I have to give it a weight or what the formatting for the cmd is to give it a weight. http://prntscr.com/miu3ro
swift shuttle
@fathom minnow ik what it is but i only have 1 server currently
abstract turret
@quaint anvil Read the wiki, https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Default-Groups
fathom minnow
@swift shuttle yeah its best to have each of your servers and gamemodes
on individual servers
abstract turret
I'm trying to do per-server permissions, I have all my servers connected to the main database, all permissions with the server tag "global" are working, however upon the server name being changed to, let's say "Hub" it fails to actually give those permissions to the player in-game. Am I configuring it wrong?
swift shuttle
If i can make anything out of it I’ll invest in bungeecord massively
fathom minnow
just dont cram a shit load of server sinto 1
it looks messy and it can be very bad performance wise
swift shuttle
Yeah ik
fathom minnow
@abstract turret top part of your config theres a thing called server-name or something
swift shuttle
Just gonna do Factions and Prison for now
fathom minnow
make sure ur setting it to what that is
swift shuttle
Just gotta find out how to set them both up properly
fathom minnow
https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Network-Installation
@abstract turret
@swift shuttle i can send u some examples tommorow
if u want
swift shuttle
I would really appreciate that
abstract turret
Ah, okay. So I don't have server: bungee across all servers?
fathom minnow
@swift shuttle friend me
abstract turret
must of read some shit wrong last night lol, thanks for the pointer my man
swift shuttle
Done
fathom minnow
@abstract turret no
u name that part your servers name
eg factions factions
np
anywyas gn every1
swift shuttle
Goodnight
fathom minnow
@valid sky im still awake so sure xd
valid sky
for my server, i need lp for bungee, and lp for sponge on all of my servers ?
fathom minnow
is your server a bungee network with spigot or bungee with sponge
bungee LP on your bungeecord server
and sponge or spigot whichever you use on your backend servers
@valid sky
fathom minnow
what do u mean
are u using spigot
or sponge
spigot and sponge lp go on your servers you actually play
bungeecord goes on your bungeecord server
...
valid sky
and the commands will bi synchronized ?
automatically ?
or need i to go on all of my proxys to make a player promote
?
valid sky
okay i see
but you say that there is a sponge version of bungeecord ?
@fathom minnow
mossy quartz
I have a question. I'm running the Sponge version of LP and I was wondering how I can set different amounts of homes per rank? This rank is supposed to have 50 homes but my players can only set 3 like the default rank. I'm unsure if I have to give it a weight or what the formatting for the cmd is to give it a weight. http://prntscr.com/miu3ro
exotic portal
Why does LuckPerms suggest using MariaDB over MySQL?
ornate bough
@exotic portal No one likes mysql. MariaDB is what the majority of ppl are switching to now. It is a drop in replacement for mysql tho
dark trench
Hey, I was wondering if its possible to get luckperms to work with spigot related permissions and be able to add forge permissions to work.
mental flax
What
dark trench
Like I want to be able to use spigot permissions and forge permissions at the same time. Right now the spigot plugin only accepts permissions on plugins but not the forge mods. (1.12.2)
@elfin egret If you open to commissions just hit me up with a friend request I really need to get this done haha
wanton stratusBOT
Hey MaxIsHot! Please don't tag staff members.
dark trench
Oh crap sorry lol
bitter coral
Hmmm..., do Forge Mods even run on a Spigotserver? Are you maybe running sponge? I also saw that the bungeecord can may be modded, if that is true /lpb should work to assign perms for Mods on the bungeecord
dark trench
I am running spigot and forge together yeah
fluid stone
yeah you need sponge to run luckperms on forge
hasty tree
^ spongeforge is what you want
dark trench
There should be a way for luck to do it so I don't need it
Because I don't want to use spongeforge if I got spigot and forge working
fluid stone
While that's good and well, as far as I've seen via the help documents and staff replies - You need spongeforge.
fluid stone
I've got forge on mine so
Only reason i know
Unrelated. I have my groups set up, they're inheriting correctly. Any ideas why they can't seem to use anything?
bitter coral
Correct Weights?
fluid stone
How would I give that a check? Just groupinfo?
bitter coral
Check the primary group of the user (user <user> info) and the group info too
foggy quartz
How to disable /calc ?
minor stream
I know of //calc but not /calc
If that's the one you mean, find the node for that command and set it to false
(Though I guess that answer applies to both situations
bitter coral
Are we talking about Essentials?
minor stream
!verbose
wanton stratusBOT
:paperclip: https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Verbose
bitter coral
(The perms for essentials are really crazy sometimes)
minor stream
@fluid stone See if this helps you at all
hasty tree
verbose is the answer to all evils
foggy quartz
No non
The //calc is disabled, via WE
But in sponge
there is a /calc
I can't figure from what plugin is it
minor stream
If that's the case, then also see verbose
When someone runs that command, it'll come back with some.plugin.calc -- true then you know which permission node to set to false.
fluid stone
Hm
minor stream
Why apt-get when you can pacman or yum?
Also, this is #general, but each distro tends to come with its own flavor of package manager
foggy quartz
yum -> Fedora -> My first love
pacman I didn't passed so many times on Arch
(I tried Antergos & MAnjaro but, mmmmh u know)
hasty tree
why apt get when you can google the program you want, click on the page, navigate to the download link, download it, open it on your desktop, agree to the terms and conditions, select somewhere to install it, click install... lol
#justwindowsthings
minor stream
^
fluid stone
This is incredibly frustrating
clear pawn
what is
foggy quartz
omg
minor stream
To be fair, Windows does have Chocolatey but you have to install it separately.
foggy quartz
clear pawn
i don't know what's happening
bitter coral
I am a Windows User
#BlameMe
fluid stone
So far, the permissions of the groups are all correct, I have given the weights but they still cannot use the commands
hasty tree
did you... give the group to the user
fluid stone
Yes.
hasty tree
at this point you probably just need to send your link to /lp editor
fluid stone
minor stream
As a matter of (draft) best practice, I recommend against issuing the * node. It tends to break things.
Per-plugin it tends to be okay, such as luckperms.*, but pay attention to the plugin's manual because a lot of them have started moving to plugin.all to avoid the implications of plugin.*
hasty tree
ensure your config has include-global set to true
fluid stone
Set to true yeah
minor stream
Hmm... time to go poke the github
hasty tree
and what does verbose say for these permissions? false? undefined?
hasty tree
they should inherit that from the member group 🤔
minor stream
Turbo, are you on Github?
hasty tree
i am
fluid stone
I'm very spooked
minor stream
What is your handle? I'm trying to mention you in this issue since this may rely on the editor rewrite you were talking about doing.
hasty tree
turbotailz
@fluid stone can you please send through your config, leave out database details if you have them
minor stream
It doesn't see anything but I'll just run with it.
hasty tree
web editor issues should go here:
https://github.com/lucko/LuckPermsWeb/issues
you'll see me in a few of those
minor stream
👍
fluid stone
I believe my db shit is just yaml
hasty tree
that's fine, paste the config to hastebin and i'll take a look
yikes, DB details! told you to remove those :P
fluid stone
Oh I missed it did i
hasty tree
you are not using yaml btw
dark trench
So, no one knows how I could get forge mod perms to work on the spigot version of luckperms?
minor stream
Same way as regular permission nodes?
That's how I do it on my Forge server
Oh, well there is that too - forge and spigot aren't compatible with each other. I assume you meant spongeforge?
hasty tree
i honestly don't know why it's not working for you mccree
hasty tree
can you try adding the member group to them? see if that works
i know they should already have it because of inheritance but doesn't hurt to try force it
fluid stone
Nada
minor stream
@dark trench Spongeforge is the only supported solution. You're welcome to try and develop your own Forge hooks into Spigot, if you like, though if you do so you are the support agent at that point. Also, if you were to do that, I recommend building against Paper instead.
dark trench
Well I am trying to pay luck to make it so I can do this lol
minor stream
iirc Luck doesn't accept payment for any of this, nor does he do special requests like that.
It takes time away from him being able to support LuckPerms, helper, etc.
If you somehow convince him, good on you, but building PaperForge or SpigotForge doesn't sound like something that would be too high on his list of priorities, especially given the complexity of the proposed project.
fluid stone
I suppose I should just scrap all this and re-do it or something then. I have no clue, I didn't set this up explicitly because it was too much of a pain for me
hasty tree
you'd be better of making a github issue tbh
fluid stone
I suppose so
hasty tree
not you, haha
fluid stone
Oh good.
nocturne owl
I do not have a prefix. I have the prefix from owner group. Other users in that group do not have a second prefix. Switching to a new group does not change the prefix.
tired turtle
This sounds more like a issue with your chat plugin
nocturne owl
I switched to ChatControl and nothing changed. No one has a second prefix.
winged nova
there is a way to change the server context to all permissions group?
worthy dome
Hi all
toxic wagon
Hi
worthy dome
So what if I've followed the instrucitons on the wiki but no /plugins/LuckPerms/config.yml or /config/luckperms/luckperms.conf. has been generated?
What do I do?
toxic wagon
Does luckperms show in /pl
@winged nova Use bulkupdate
@nocturne owl What's the issue?
worthy dome
what is /pl?
fluid stone
Lists plugins
worthy dome
What?>
fluid stone
It will list all plugins
toxic wagon
@worthy dome it lists plugins.
worthy dome
WTF are you talking about
toxic wagon
Just run the command and see if luckperms shows up
worthy dome
Where am I supposed to type that?
fluid stone
Open server. Type /ol
worthy dome
WHERE
fluid stone
Pl*
worthy dome
There is nowhere to type
fluid stone
In the chat
worthy dome
No it's not listed
worthy dome
spigot?
toxic wagon
If you're using spigot. Did you add the latest version of luckperms into the plugins folder? Are there any errors in console?
worthy dome
I don't see any errors and yes I installed the latest one
toxic wagon
Restart the server and watch for errors relating to luckperms.
fluid stone
Yeah
fluid stone
Okay so, you should have a console on your host, might be multicraft or something else
toxic wagon
You need to restart your server then watch the console for any errors relating to luckperms. If you don't know the basics then learn how Minecraft servers work. Before trying to use plugins.
fluid stone
Everything in console gets written, every error, etc etc. So when you start the server up again, read that and look for any errors pertaining to LuckPerms
hasty tree
You're really not help;ing at all
Except they are. Perhaps you should learn more about Minecraft servers and how they work before trying to install plugins to a system you seem to know nothing about.
hasty tree
lol