User permissions override group permissions only when they are exactly the same
#support-1
primal shadow
yet the essentials.* on the owner group (which i have) didn't work
lapis ibex
Indivdiual permissions always override wildcard permissions
Not the other way round
to illustrate:
test.permission > test.* > *
primal shadow
ye but then * should override any default perms that would block /ess
yet it doesn't
lapis ibex
Exacttly not
You have several permissions set to false
* doesn't override essentials.xxx
primal shadow
can't i just set the weight of the owner group higher so it checks the wildcard perm and not the indiv perms?
lapis ibex
Weight is only a factor when you have the exact same permissions
primal shadow
damn
lapis ibex
Like group a sets perm to false and b to true. Then the one with the higher weight will "win"
primal shadow
I know pex does have -<node> to override the wildcard permission but if it found a permission in the highest weight group it didn't go on to check lower groups
but if group b > a
and a has plug.a to false
and b has plug.* to true
shouldn't it just grab b (plug.*) and allow plug.a as well even though group a has it false
primal shadow
alright
lapis ibex
So other means of ordering them are required
primal shadow
so I just have to copy over any "false" permissions and allow them on higher groups?
lapis ibex
Yes
primal shadow
aight
lapis ibex
Or not use false in the first place
hoary grove
Why do I get this when Im going to start my bungee with AACBungee.
20:08:09 [INFO] -----------===== [AACBungeeConnect] =====-----------
20:08:09 [INFO] [LuckPerms] Closing storage...
20:08:09 [INFO] The plugin has been successfully deactivated
20:08:09 [INFO] Plugin by: Nojo | Noah
primal shadow
ok another question right
lapis ibex
@hoary grove there must be another error before
primal shadow
does the wildcard get absolutely ignored if there's any more specific permission in another group?
cause I'm not falseing the /ess command on default
only like /me and other trivial stuff I just don't want my defaults to do
lapis ibex
Any more specific permission that matches
primal shadow
found it
hoary grove
It says [AACBungeeConnect] Detected Plugin Piracy! Stopping Plugin...
primal shadow
idk why i blocked essentials.essentials from default cause that's naturally an OP perm
hoary grove
Whats Piracy?
quiet sentinel
johnny depp
lapis ibex
Illegally downloading or using something you'd need to pay for
At least in the digital sense
lofty falcon
Please help me... I just used PermissionsEx until today but during the update of my server it's completely broken... I'd like to update to LP! But... I don't know how and what I have to do that my chat prefixes and else are going to work...
primal shadow
also how does essentials decide which group to display in /list
cause when i'm in default AND owner, it displays me in "everyone"
yet when i'm in owner alone i'm in staff
lapis ibex
Probaly group weights
lapis ibex
Be sure to use setweight or the node weight.<weight>
lapis ibex
@lofty falcon you can migrate your permissions from LP
And it has an excessive wiki
@primal shadow yes
primal shadow
so I have a prison server
and I want the players to get added into both a and default as a default group
i mean i could merge default and a
but it would look a lot better with the /rankup plugin i use
cause it just takes the group from LP and displays the group name
lapis ibex
@primal shadow read the wiki page "Default Group"
primal shadow
ok
so if I do use default in the prison track and they get promoted
does the default group get unassigned?
primal shadow
alright so I do need the double default group then
lapis ibex
If it's set explicitly and the rank doesn't start with it, then no
primal shadow
say track does start at default (a) and gets promoted to b
lapis ibex
You can use the default assignments
primal shadow
then user no longer has default and no longer is on the track I would set up from default > member > ... > og
can I even have one group as the first rank in two tracks?
lapis ibex
Yes you can
primal shadow
that should do it, no?
lapis ibex
But what you can do with default assignments is check if the player not on the prison track and give them a
primal shadow
yea i found <prison/group.prison_titlepack>
that means like
<track/group> right?
primal shadow
so how to check if lacking a track?
not just check if the first group in the track is lacking
lapis ibex
Wait a minute
I know it's possible
@queen latch if I'm not completely wrong you can check for if a player is on a track in the default assignments
Do you remember how?
queen latch
Also @primal shadow
[19:21] patch: these are all my falses
[19:21] patch: there's nothing that blocks /ess yet the group still does
^^
primal shadow
I fixed that already
queen latch
One way you could manage it is with another group like s_deny_default with all the false perms
Then inherit it from default and deny it from owner so it doesn't inherit
And also, I'm not sure @lapis ibex
lapis ibex
@primal shadow then you need an expressions like this:
lacks: <group.a> & <group.b> & <group.c> & ...
queen latch
o.o there's gotta be a better way...
primal shadow
or can it be like
- group.a
- group.b``` as well?Don't think so. It would be if it was yaml but the lacks part is a string that lp parses
primal shadow
that's gonna be one long line if i can't lacks: track.prison
primal shadow
if there isn't should be added to todo
queen latch
Do your ranks all inherit each other?
primal shadow
they will
queen latch
IE b inheits a
primal shadow
then i can just lacks group.free?
queen latch
If so, add a bogus perm to a like has_prison_track and put that in lacks
primal shadow
oh that could work
queen latch
You'd wanna check the lowest group
primal shadow
ofcourse
queen latch
š
primal shadow
the main problem was if it was just checking for group.a and they were in group.free-----
wait
if group.b inherits group.a
doesn't it also have group.a
?
primal shadow
queen latch
It'd need <>
primal shadow
ofc
queen latch
coz it's a "permission"
primal shadow
if I add <prison/on_prison_track> it'll only check when I'm on the prison server?
queen latch
Yeah
primal shadow
cause I don't think it's very useful to check for on_prison_track if they never go on the prison server
useless storage usage
queen latch
It'sk all stored in the same place so idk lmao
primal shadow
if I have the script on the bungee plugin instance i don't need it on all the spigot server confs right?
latent hemlock
for server do I put what I named the server in the config if it's synced in a SQL DB?
primal shadow
I would assume either the config servername or your bungee servername
latent hemlock
I don't have a bungee atm
primal shadow
then server name in your config
latent hemlock
Alright, I am getting ready to put bungee in the server do I put * if I want them to sync the perms no matter what server they are in?
primal shadow
just leave it blank
will turn into global in the editor automatically
you are using the web editor ui right?
latent hemlock
yeah
queen latch
I'm not sure @primal shadow
@latent hemlock Put a server name still in config. It's good practice for if you ever upgrade to a network and it won't affect anything if you're running only one
latent hemlock
@queen latch I did
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latent hemlock
I am switching to a network next month so I am a bit excited š
primal shadow
nice
queen latch
š
latent hemlock
Would it mess up my permissions if I put 2 servers on one database?
hasty tree
that's the recommended way to set up a network
hasty tree
latent hemlock
08.11 15:45:15 [Server] ERROR [LuckPerms] Storage method 'sql' not recognised. Using the default instead. I no joke did what I did for my other server š
latent hemlock
but it uses sql on the other one and works just fine š¤
hasty tree
i can assure you it doesn't
it's probably given the same error and has defaulted to H2
latent hemlock
it does š¦
toxic wagon
Luckperms has to have MySQL for the storage method. If you're wanting to use mysql
hasty tree
who are the experts here? lol
sql is not a valid storage type
the only place in your config that should say sql is under messaging service
latent hemlock
alright then do I export it and import it into the MySQL then?
toxic wagon
Yes. If you're wanting to save any previous data.
Otherwise you can start fresh. Upto you.
latent hemlock
ok
08.11 15:59:50 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) -> Starting import process.
08.11 15:59:50 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) -> Processing commands....
08.11 15:59:52 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) -> Waiting for initial update task to complete....
08.11 15:59:52 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) -> Setting up command executor....
08.11 15:59:52 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) -> All commands have been processed and scheduled - now waiting for the execution to complete..
08.11 15:59:54 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) -> 92% complete - 138/149 operations complete with 1 error.
08.11 15:59:56 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) -> 92% complete - 138/149 operations complete with 1 error.
08.11 15:59:58 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) -> 92% complete - 138/149 operations complete with 1 error.
08.11 16:00:00 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) -> 92% complete - 138/149 operations complete with 1 error.
08.11 16:00:02 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) COMPLETED - took 11.401 seconds - 1 error.
08.11 16:00:02 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) ------------> Showing Error #1 <------------
08.11 16:00:02 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) Whilst executing: Command #78
08.11 16:00:02 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) Command: group default permission set bukkit.command.plugins false
08.11 16:00:02 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) Type: STATE_ERROR
08.11 16:00:02 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) Output:
08.11 16:00:02 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) -> [LP] default already has bukkit.command.plugins set in context global.
08.11 16:00:02 [Server] INFO [LP] (Import) <------------------------------------------>
toxic wagon
@latent hemlock Instead of spamming up this chat with those. Use hastebin.com then just send us the link.
toxic wagon
Yes.
latent hemlock
Cool š
clever talon
hello
im wondering is if its possible to create a luck perms database
and if it is,how
toxic wagon
@clever talon Create a database, then connect it to luckperms in the config.
clever talon
how do i connect it?
toxic wagon
With the database name, address, username and password. In the LuckPerms config.
hasty tree
what do you mean by "raw example"?
foggy quartz
like just like basic rank set, where I can add and adjust and give perms like - joetheplumber rank the the perm nodes. is there like a rough ex.
queen latch
Oh like an example setup?
foggy quartz
yes
queen latch
We've talked about that before but not ended up implementing it as every server is different
hasty tree
there is a getting started guide https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Usage#getting-started
there's also a migration feature to import your PEX permissions
queen latch
You need to make the perms system yourself so you know how it works and so it's set up in a way that makes sense to you
But yeah that guide should help. There's also pex command equivalents on the wiki
foggy quartz
the pex migration would be wonderful but my pex is on my spigot servers
this one is on sponge
queen latch
Ah
I mean you could technically still do it
But there'd be no point as the perms themselves would be different
toxic wagon
Easiest thing to do is read the wiki page Turbo sent, then explore more of the wiki
An ask if you have more questions
foggy quartz
ok no worries, thanks
hasty tree
and if you're on sponge and using Nucleus they have a command that will set up some default perms for you
foggy quartz
oh that would be nice let me add nucleus
hasty tree
it's only the nucleus permissions it adds though, and you still have to create the groups for it
but like, that's easy af
foggy quartz
thanks
clever talon
my prefixes dont show up when i make them with luckperms but they do in other plugins
and i am in the right group
lapis ibex
@clever talon Iām not sure I understand you correctly
Could you try to explain it differently
clever talon
when i do my prefix in pex for examle, it works
but when i do luckperms it does not
lapis ibex
@foggy quartz and for easy permissions editing use the web editor. Just run /lp editor and Click the link
lapis ibex
@clever talon make sure you have vault installed and a vault compatible chat plugin
foggy quartz
recommendations
clever talon
@lapis ibex
wanton stratusBOT
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clever talon
is essentials chat compatible ?
lapis ibex
As long as itās EssentialsX
clever talon
yup it is
lapis ibex
And EssentialsXchat, yes
clever talon
but it still does not work
hasty tree
/ess version and show us
clever talon
for some reason
lapis ibex
Do you happen to use individual chat formats for each group?
hasty tree
send your essentials config over hastebin
also double check you actually have a prefix /lp user <user> info
lapis ibex
^
clever talon
oh i see now
i was just retarded
i had a meta prefix set but not the actual one
sorry for wasting you time
lapis ibex
Meta prefix isnāt a thing in LP
frosty stump
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/345870/ Does that needs to do something with LuckPerms?
hasty tree
what storage type do you use?
lapis ibex
Letās make it shorter. Run /lp info please and show us
clever talon
tnx
lapis ibex
And if youāre using commands wrap the prefix in ". So for example "[Rank] "
@frosty stump
See the messages direct at you
frosty stump
What do you mean?
hasty tree
frosty stump
Ohh!
lp info=> [23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] Running LuckPerms v4.2.42 by Luck.
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Platform: Bukkit
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Server Brand: Paper
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Server Version:
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - git-Paper-1500 (MC: 1.12.2) - 1.12.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Storage:
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Type: H2
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - File Size: 2.15MB
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Messaging: None
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Instance:
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Static contexts: None
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Online Players: 0 (1 unique)
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Uptime: 22 h 19 m 3 s
[23:53:44 INFO]: [LP] - Local Data: 0 users, 19 groups, 1 tracks
sniff
clever talon
omg luckperms is awesome
hasty tree
you are running an old version of LP btw @frosty stump
clever talon
the best perms plugin ive ever used
frosty stump
Oh, wait me a sec
clever talon
thank you so much
hasty tree
clever talon
so easy to use
frosty stump
Not anymore :3
fast heart
I need help
I know how to use PEX but not luckperms
How to i make a rank in luckperms
hasty tree
have you checked out the wiki?
fast heart
have the same permission as another group
yes i havw
I want to make a group and that group has the same permissions as another group but with more permissions, how can i do that?
hasty tree
easy, make the second group inherit the other group as its parent
e.g. /lp group <group2> parent add <group1>
fast heart
whats group2 and group1 difference
hasty tree
group1 is the group you want to inherit from
group2 is the group with the extra permissions
that page will help you if you're used to PEX
fast heart
So group2 has the permissions as group1?
hasty tree
if you do that command, yes
fast heart
I used the config not chat lmao
hasty tree
wat
fast heart
In pex i used config to set the permissions and i knew how to do it by the config rather than by chat
fast heart
Ik
hasty tree
editing permissions in config files is not a good method
use the web editor or commands instead
fast heart
I used the config for pex, not lp anymore
Also
If i say
group3
group3 parents group2 and group2 parents group1, would group3 parent group1 automatically?
hasty tree
yes
fast heart
Ok good
frosty stump
So the prefix thing is not a problem with luckperms?
quiet sentinel
Turbotailz... Thank you for figuring out that i had a derp moment when editing the config. I've updated the issue and closed it. I figured it was something stupid like that since i couldn't find anyone else having this issue.
orchid pagoda
does anyone know if you can to set the ftbutilities chunk claims and chunk loading amounts via rank perms?
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foggy quartz
Ahh, right
lapis ibex
But Iām pretty sure itās linked in the comments
foggy quartz
Does the author just choose not to update the ore page anymore or is the 1.12.2 edition an unofficial fork
lapis ibex
Itās weird
The guy made the version.
But never released it
And some other guy forked it so he could upload it as a GitHub release
But didnāt change any code
foggy quartz
Very weird indeed
orchid pagoda
sorry what do you mean i need forgedperms?
lapis ibex
The guy that forked it was just being nice. Precompiling it and letting people know
You need the plugin Forged Perms
orchid pagoda
do you mean ftbutilities perms?
lapis ibex
It bridges Forge permission checks to Sponge so LP can handle them
orchid pagoda
ahh isee
lapis ibex
No. Just need the plugin in addition
orchid pagoda
you wouldn't happen to have the link for it would you
foggy quartz
Well, at least the dev for forgedperms isnāt a flowerchilds tier guy
orchid pagoda
that best not be a knock at me for asking for a link
foggy quartz
āThe dev for forgedpermsā probably canceled out the possibility of it being you
lapis ibex
@orchid pagoda check the discussion/comments on the ore page
foggy quartz
Is there any sort of guide anywhere for beginners like me to setup perms for a server?
foggy quartz
That didnāt really help me in what Iām trying to do. I mean a guide very light in terms of verbose and terminology
Like if Iāve never touched a permissions plugin ever
hasty tree
the config is simple and barely needs to be touched
queen latch
^^ That's a good video. Just make sure to ask any questions you might have here
orchid pagoda
though one thing if you ever edit a config, download it and use notepad++ as it will highlight things to show them off better. thats be the thing i can say in that regard
queen latch
But yeah you should have to change about 3 lines of the config
The server name and the database information
hasty tree
but only if you run a network
queen latch
Then close that config file and forget about her š
hasty tree
otherwise it's basically plug n play
orchid pagoda
funny that void, i get the feeling on a lot of plugin discords that we are tirsome when it comes to having to help o.O
queen latch
True yeah, shouldn't need to edit anything at all for single server
south sierra
i always remove default bukkit permissions but that's me.
queen latch
Honestly the only tiresome people to help are people who can't read / refuse to listen to you
hasty tree
it can be tiresome when all the info is available in the wiki and we just have to point to those pages lol
queen latch
As long as people are polite to me and can communicate with me effectively I'll dedicate as much time as they need :)
orchid pagoda
turbotailz, least for me the wiki isn't all that clear when your new to it all
queen latch
Yeah it's a little technical
Is there anything specifically you're not understanding?
hasty tree
i agree that there could be a more simplified version
especially to help the people who don't know english very well
but ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
orchid pagoda
videos explaining how to go through the whole things are always a good idea š
queen latch
luckypermission: the idiot guid
orchid pagoda
well yeah that lol
hasty tree
videos are not easy to make
queen latch
I mean I made a video that covers instalation at least
But yeah they take quite a while
hasty tree
i'd love to make a series
orchid pagoda
you don't need to dumb it down, just go through the steps without being too technical
queen latch
My 4 minute video took maybe 40 minutes in total
hasty tree
people probably wouldn't understand my accent š
queen latch
Yeah that's what I'm planning on, I just don't have time atm
orchid pagoda
yeah i guess, but in the long run it;s more helpful to more people
queen latch
orchid pagoda
in my opinion anyways
queen latch
Yeah
I think my accent is quite understandable anyway
Although I think I put the volume a little low compared to the music
orchid pagoda
anyways, i had a look for a forged permissions but the only one i saw was api1 would help for a link
if anyone has it to hand that is
orchid pagoda
yeah so i can eidt ftbutilities allowed chunks
for my server
yea
was told thats what i need
to set rank limits for claimable chunks
and chunk loading
queen latch
I'm pretty sure there's one on Ore called ForgedPerms, that should work with latest sponge?
queen latch
Anyway I've got to sleep now, it's 1 am and I have school tomorrow š
Cya, and sorry :(
faint lynx
Haya im having problem of prefix's not showing
latent hemlock
What is the command for giving users a suffix?
orchid pagoda
i did a search ie sponge forged perms for api7 and couldn;t find anything, should have gone strait to sponge ore
faint lynx
./lp group [group] meta addsuffix [priority] "[Suffix]"
faint lynx
ā¤
foggy quartz
My brain doesnāt work well with YouTube for topics like this sadly so a text based tutorial would be most beneficial
latent hemlock
@faint lynx didn't want to do it for a group š¤£
faint lynx
anywanys anyone able to assist me with why my prefix's aint showing
then instead of group
orchid pagoda
yeah everyones different in that regard. i prefer a vidoe i can go along with š
toxic wagon
@faint lynx Spigot? Sponge? Chat format plugin?
queen latch
@faint lynx Check the page on the wiki about that, https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta#displaying-prefixes-and-suffixes
foggy quartz
But what is it running
toxic wagon
So you're jusing Spigot, Okay, Whats your chat plugin?
queen latch
@latent hemlock just FYI the group commands and the user commands are almost the exact same. You can switch around /lp user for /lp group and 99% of commands will still work
faint lynx
EssentialsChat
queen latch
EssX?
faint lynx
yes sir
toxic wagon
@faint lynx Vault installed?
faint lynx
no sir xD
hasty tree
/ess version
toxic wagon
Install Vault then
faint lynx
i didnt think it was needed cause i had sponge server where i didnt need it
but will do
hasty tree
you almost always need vault on bukkit/spigot servers
orchid pagoda
when you have forged perms install, is there a command you use for luckyperms to set the amount of chunks a group can claim? or is it something within forged perms?
latent hemlock
What if I wanted to apply it to only one or all the servers for the suffix?
toxic wagon
@latent hemlock Add server=<servername> for adding it to one server only
to the end of the command
Assuming you have set the server names in the LuckPerms configs
toxic wagon
Yes
latent hemlock
cool š
faint lynx
im having a bit of a
double owner prob
you can literly see that confused ness in that "uh" text
toxic wagon
Remove {GROUP} from the format to remove the owner
orchid pagoda
when you have forged perms install, is there a command you use for luckyperms to set the amount of chunks a group can claim? or is it something within forged perms?
faint lynx
damn
worked like a charm
tysm
MacWhinny i think you should head over to forged perms then
if no staff react on it i think they either dont know it or bussy. but im going out from it that they dont know.
orchid pagoda
i did, there isn;t anything, thats why i asked. i wanna know if its a luckyperms command or a forged perm command
faint lynx
i mean
check the Luckperm's Command wiki
and Forged perm command wiki
see if you can find it there
orchid pagoda
and i am and have, is the reason im asking here incase they answer it before i find anything. fastest rout first. You'd be stupid nt to do it that way. If i found it id redacted my question
lapis ibex
@orchid pagoda on the FTButils docs it lists the permissions you need to set
faint lynx
Many staff hate it, that you just go on and keep asking, and have them doing it for you. instead of moving ur own butt doing it
#Experience
orchid pagoda
i asked twice, get over yourself
faint lynx
no need to get hostile now...
orchid pagoda
then stop with how your coming across
lapis ibex
@orchid pagoda @faint lynx all good
faint lynx
well 1 no, you are to full of ur self hoping that others do it for you by just asking maybe once or twice or how many time's.
and 2, if someone says someThing that might come over to you harsh, then just state that you dont like that attitude instead of getting hostile
woop
i'll stop now
lapis ibex
Iām pretty sure what he meant is not asking again. But keeping asking without doing anything yourself, when all youād have to do is reading the docs etc.
And I agree. That gets annoying. Thatās why I generally refuse to do any work.
I prefer teaching people to help themselves instead of helping them
Will take longer in the short term but will pay off in the long term
lapis ibex
Iām a magician
lapis ibex
magic <insert glitter rainbow here>
faint lynx
the Magician who makes people hungry come see!
orchid pagoda
i am trying to find it myself, as i said the i take the fastest rout, if i get an answer here first or i find it myself then that's the obvious thing to do. I'm really not good at the wiki, it's not all that well layed out on some things and i'm struggling to find it, so if someone here provided me the link or told me if it was a lucky perm command or a forged one that that would help
hasty tree
š šÆ
orchid pagoda
and besides, as i said i have looked and couldn;t find it myself. so i asked. shot shooting me
lapis ibex
Thatās ok. Donāt worry
Though I donāt know what exactly you need to do for FTBUtils
hasty tree
psst, there is no Y in LuckPerms
lapis ibex
All I know you need to bridge the Forge Permission API to Sponge so you can manage the FTBU perms through LP
And I know people have done it
orchid pagoda
right ive done that, but i was asking once thats done. will the command be a LUCKperm command or a difference command
thats what i dont know
lapis ibex
The command that sets the permission will be a LP command
orchid pagoda
if it's a luckperm then ive never seen that perm in the command log
right thank you
thats what i was asking
and i got dick slapped in the face for it
lapis ibex
But what permissions you need to set will be told in the FTBU docs
Be aware though that their docs will probably tell you to use FTBU stuff to set them
orchid pagoda
ok, do you have the link to that site. as i did a search and it came up with nothing recent.
orchid pagoda
ok
faint lynx
Im Sorry to interfere!, but i got 1 ask. you said you searched ur self?. yet you said "You" tooked the fastest "route" to get ur awnser
and that's by hoping others know it to tell you. so in other words
You never searched it in the first place?. just curiousity
lapis ibex
Their docs are probably linked on their curse page
orchid pagoda
guessing it will be on their main side not some off website
lapis ibex
Yup
orchid pagoda
ok thanks, and i said i do both. you do not listen and then have to speak out. i said i search myself and also asked here to get the answer the fastest.
not with everything but with things i think may take a while to find out
faint lynx
okay
lapis ibex
Ok. Thatās it. Last words in that regard
faint lynx
ty for awnsering my question.
hasty tree
@faint lynx your comments aren't necessary
faint lynx
i think that brainstone handeled that off turbotailz
toxic wagon
@foggy quartz Depends on the plugins you have.
foggy quartz
There is barely any thing on except essentialsX, luckperm of course, essentialsXspawn, and nucleus
But u cannot push a button lol
hasty tree
essentials and nucleus? uhhh
toxic wagon
Wait what
hasty tree
that's not possible š
orchid pagoda
Ok i think i found the website. https://github.com/LatvianModder/FTBUtilities/tree/master/guide/ranks/example_config
that is the command to change the max chunks you can load and claim. But i'm unsure how to put in into the luckperms. I though it may go as such /lp group owner permission set ftbutilities.chunkloader.max_chunks: 40
But that didn;t do anything true
red ingot
Hey
hasty tree
greetings
red ingot
How are you doing?
hasty tree
6/10
red ingot
Where did the other 4 points go š
hasty tree
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
lapis ibex
@orchid pagoda try /lp group <group> meta set <option> <value>
dull jacinth
Is luckperms actually handling tablist prefixes ?
toxic wagon
LuckPerms does not display prefixes in chat or Tablist, you need another plugin to handle that.
somber shoal
I still couldn't find whats causing prefixes to not work for only the migrated groups in spite of everything being right.
luckperms-h2.mv.db is this file where all the perms are stored for each of the groups?
toxic wagon
Yes. If your storage type is h2
somber shoal
Is there a way to open to file on windows?
toxic wagon
Why would you want to?
somber shoal
because Im having an issue and I see nothing wrong with the way thing are setup.. the prefix problem I mentioned earlier..
faint lynx
Quick ask, i got Prison Plugin and Luckperms im tryna have it so that The Ranks from Prison can have permission's set in it am i here good for asking that
[ Solved ]
tired turtle
@somber shoal Can you not DM us please.
Just wait patiently, since not everyone has time right now.
Thank you.
somber shoal
ok š I'm sorry
All I need is someone to understand the bug I'm having. My question always gets pushed to the back and I've been trying to solve this for almost a week.
I'll keep my explanation clear below 5 lines with 3 screenshots. That's all it will take to explain the bug.. I just need a few minutes of your time
toxic wagon
@somber shoal Explain your issue with screenshots and everything through a Github issue that way it doesn't get lost. The when someone has time and is able to help then it's there for them to review the Github issue.
somber shoal
ok
hasty tree
or just say it in here...
somber shoal
ok I'll type out the thing. Just a sec
The problem I have is with prefixes not being displayed for only the ranks which were migrated from pex
These two groups are made natively on luckperms and work flawlessly
hasty tree
so... what's the expected outcome?
somber shoal
The problem exists with the highest priority prefixes element not being shows in tablist for the admin rank for example
the highest prioroty prefix usual shows up in tab
like it does with member and dev
hasty tree
what's the tab plugin
somber shoal
Its only the ranks which were migrated from pex seem to have this problem. The ones I made on luckperms dont have this issue.
Its titlemanager
If I made a rank freshly on luckperms it works flawlessly. All the ranks I migrate from pex end up with prefixes not working even though as you see in the screenshot I have set the priorities correctly
hasty tree
lp editor?
hasty tree
so which ones are the pex groups
somber shoal
admin, trialadmin, builder, headbuilder
I even set the weights of groups correctly.
hasty tree
what placeholder do you use for the tab?
somber shoal
no placeholders. It automatically works
I have vault etc installed
If I had the option to add placeholders I would have done that ages ago..
hasty tree
i'm not sure i understand this 2 prefix system you got going on here
somber shoal
I'll explain
Ok so what I have going on here is this:
I set my chat plugin to work with the following format
{luckperms_prefix_element_lowest} {name} >> message
So I have the prefix I want displayed on chat as the element with lowest priority
The element with highest priority is automatically taken as the one for other places like tablist
You can see that here
lowest priority prefix element is show in chat and the highest priority prefix element is shown in tablist
You can see that here
Lowest priority prefix is show in chat and the one with highest priority is shown in tab
The problem is with the ranks which were migrated from pex, the higher priority prefixes don't show up. Only the placeholder in chat works
hasty tree
it doesn't make any sense why that would happen... have you tried cloning the groups?
somber shoal
That is what we see here with admin rank and the other migrated ranks
Exactly it makes no sense why this happens. Yup I tried everything ;-;
I cloned, did export and import back again, did a migration again.. nothing worked..
hasty tree
I have no idea. Maybe this does need a github issue.
At least then Luck will definitely look at it
somber shoal
Which is why I was wanting to know if there is something different in the ranks migrated from pex by looking into how the rank is stored
in my case it seems to be a h2 file
db
toxic wagon
That's why I mentioned it turbo haha. It's got me why it's not working as well.
hasty tree
nah there shouldn't be any difference to how the ranks are stored, the migration generates an import file and the permissions are all imported as if they were normal LP perms
somber shoal
https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/issues/48
anything related?
hasty tree
i'm also not sure if your weighted prefix system is going to work as intended
somber shoal
It works for all the ranks i make on luckperms natively xD..
its supposed to by default take the highest priority prefix for other places which is why I went this route
because I can use the placeholders provided to get a different prefix to show in chat although it wont be used elsewhere
hasty tree
so why don't you just make the groups again if that works?
somber shoal
I need to copy over 100+ perms if I am to do it manually..
hasty tree
just use an import file to do the perms
somber shoal
I did try.. no help
hasty tree
export them, remove the prefix stuff, import them again without the prefixes
somber shoal
but exporting them will export with it the very bug I'm trying to get rid of right?
Oh you mean clear all meta for the groups then export ?
but then how is it diffrent..
it should have cleared if I did clear..
hasty tree
no i mean export the data, open the export file, remove anything relating to meta
have you seen an exported file? it's literally just a list of commands
you can manipulate it however you want
somber shoal
yup Its a perm file
somber shoal
Yes I see it.. I just checked all the commands with meta in them and I believe they are already set up correctly .. owo I see nothing wrong with them..
so I'll just try to delete all groups of my server
and then import this to try?
I'll try that and let you guys know
twin kernel
is possible to execut commands like /lp user [user] promote [track] silently?
somber shoal
wdym by silently? Group changes aren't usually notified to user whose group is being changed I think?
Maybe you see it because you are opped?
bleak pecan
do you know how to make some commands timed
like /fly for 30 sec
orchid pagoda
I tried this /lp group owner meta set ftbutilities.claims.max_chunks : 30 And nothing changed.
Are you sure it would be that command? to change the amount of chunks per group
bleak pecan
??
orchid pagoda
DJ this video has what your looking for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS6tl5SME_I
bleak pecan
ok
orchid pagoda
helped me setup
bleak pecan
wait, spawning system?
orchid pagoda
?
bleak pecan
he say spawning system
im looking for a way to make players spawn on a different location than the world spawn
on first join
orchid pagoda
Sorry you asked for a way to set a timed fly command
foggy quartz
any plugin reccomendation for colored names in tab list that works with luckperms groups
orchid pagoda
normal one, i set prefixs through lucky perms, that video explains it too
static surge
@foggy quartz For example, it should change iron nuggets into ingots.
foggy quartz
oh so it crafts
static surge
Yes
It will also change ingots into blocks.
I donāt remember off the top of my head the entire list of stuff that can be condensed.
bleak pecan
???
i dont understand
that will give you a perm for 10s than remove it or give you a perm for 10s than disable it and you can use it again?
pure hinge
It gives that group that permission for 10 seconds.
pure hinge
Yes, if people say that something is only for x seconds it ofcource get removed
That's just some basic logic.
foggy quartz
do what
foggy quartz
yea
the command u showed is for that
but make "true" to "false" which will negate the permission
lp group VIP permission settemp essentials.fly false 30s
will disable fly permissions for 30 seconds then it will go back to normal
bleak pecan
that can help me
bleak pecan
yup
foggy quartz
and disable for how long
bleak pecan
but lp group VIP permission settemp essentials.fly false 30s for cooldown
just disable it
foggy quartz
what will trigger the automatic 30 second delay
a pressure plate?
entering worldguard region?
foggy quartz
If you want to give VIP group /fly for 30 seconds, then do /lp group VIP permission settemp essentials.fly true 30s
bleak pecan
fly enabled
foggy quartz
oh
bleak pecan
after 30 sec
foggy quartz
ur looking for /fly person
foggy quartz
explain everything
bleak pecan
fly myself
foggy quartz
you a command which toggles someones fly mode to on and after 30 seconds disables it
like doing /fly person
bleak pecan
no
foggy quartz
or do u want a command that gives someone the ability to do /fly for 30 seconds and then removes it and disables his fly mode
foggy quartz
ur still not clarifying
bleak pecan
when the player execute /fly the command will disabled after 30 sec and the player have to re-execute the command again
pure hinge
The temp permission wont work on toggle commands
Because it wont to toggled off when the permission is removed.
queen latch
@bleak pecan @foggy quartz that's off topic, and Remski is right, if someone toggles fly on they can keep flying until they relog, no matter if they have the permission
lapis ibex
Some plugins might handle that properly. But most donāt
queen latch
I know supervanish handles it okay
pure hinge
Maybe if plugins add a permission check by using everytime /fly
queen latch
Mhm
pure hinge
As they can see then they dont have the permission anymore and with that toggle it off.
But that must from the plugins end. Not lp. So
Ow wait. Nvm. I meaned check it when i a player tries to fly when fly mode is enabled. (As example)
orchid pagoda
I tried this /lp group owner meta set ftbutilities.claims.max_chunks : 30 And nothing changed.
Are you sure it would be that command? to change the amount of chunks per group
lapis ibex
No : @orchid pagoda
queen latch
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tacit sable
I am having a problem I migrated from PermissionsEX but the lowest inhabited ranks prefix is showing
Before it would show owner before admin and admin before mod
But now is shows opposite its show the lowest ranks prefix first
queen latch
@tacit sable Can you send me the link to your editor please š
queen latch
Yeah
tacit sable
queen latch
Thanks, one moment
tacit sable
k
queen latch
@tacit sable What do you want the rank ordur to be?
tacit sable
Owner
Admin
Srmod
Mod
JrMod
Helper
Default
queen latch
Okay, and should YT and donator be just above default?
tacit sable
donator is above default
youtube dose not inhret anything so it dose not need to be ordered
queen latch
okay
tacit sable
Thanks so much
tacit sable
Thank you
queen latch
I've changed your weights around, open the editor after applying to have a look around š
You're welcome
green arch
Hello, how to fix lowercase LuckPerms formatting? i remember that it doesnt do that at start of 2018, what changed? I have a system that recognizes skins as players Reg-ined on my system. And there might be some nicknames with HigherCased
Ive tried to find and stuck on this
dark drum
ello again luck
dark drum
do negative perms override *?
green arch
Š”an i change that?
elfin egret
no you can't foxgreat
green arch
i really need to not doing that lowercasing
elfin egret
yes dual
dark drum
right.
magic dome
Use the players UUID to fetch the name with casing?
tired turtle
@dark drum The default permission handling is like that:
- More specific perms override perms with wildcards (Example:
essentials.flywith valuefalsewill overrideessentials.*with valuetrueand because of that users won't be able to run /fly) - Permissions of users will override permissions of groups.
- Permissions set in a group will override permissions of an inherited group.
static bear
I actually like this system ^
queen latch
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formal bison
https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/wiki/Prefix-&-Suffix-Stacking
Is the prefix stacking possible via the online webeditor?
toxic wagon
@formal bison Prefix Stacking needs to be done via the LuckPerms config.
formal bison
Alright. Thanks!
orchid pagoda
regarding the weight when adding suffix, hat i does it mean?
toxic wagon
Like you do when adding weights for groups.
static bear
@formal bison I can show you how to do it
toxic wagon
Incase a player or group has multiple suffixes, it so you can specify which one should have the most priority over the others. @orchid pagoda
orchid pagoda
in what scenario would that take place then
toxic wagon
If a player has both groups, VIP and Admin
The admin suffix would have a weight of something like 20 and the VIP would ahve something like 10 so the admin suffix would override the VIP one
toxic wagon
/lp user <name> parent add <group>
toxic wagon
parent = group
group = parent
static bear
Ye ik
orchid pagoda
but wouldn;t adding a group just put them into that group?
orchid pagoda
ahh ok thanks
static bear
Group set removes all existing parents and puts then in 1 group
where as group add just adds the group
same with unset and remove
orchid pagoda
thanks, thats good to know
mystic wolf
My luckperms stay red in /plugins '-' help
toxic wagon
@mystic wolf Check your console for errors
mystic wolf
Can not be 1.8?
toxic wagon
@mystic wolf You need to use 1.8.8
mystic wolf
Okay '-' Thanks
azure crystal
Hey, I'm digging whole internet for one problem, how to enable for admin group, ability to use target selectors in standard vanilla commands? For example /kill @e[type=pig] work only when I'm an operator.
idle olive
@green arch
Just get uuid and convert that to the latest username
Via the Mojang APi
elfin egret
@azure crystal are you looking for a permission for that selector in particular, or just generally the kill command?
azure crystal
any command with @p @e etc.
elfin egret
The answer in both cases is that you're restricted to whatever permissions are checked for by the command code
Unless you have another plugin to implement that behaviour over the top of commands
woven path
I'm getting an error when entering a command:
lp group visitor meta setĀ griefprevention.min-claim-size-basic-z 10/5000
[18:17:49] [Server thread/INFO] [nucleus]: Server ran the command: /lp group visitor meta setĀ griefprevention.min-claim-size-basic-z 10/5000
[18:17:49] [pool-4-thread-1/INFO] [net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer]: [LP] Command not recognised.
elfin egret
LuckPerms doesn't do this, it just responds to permission checks when they're made
@woven path that's strange
woven path
gp is present:
gp
gpdebug gpreload gpversion
gp
[18:22:38] [Server thread/INFO] [nucleus]: Server ran the command: /gpversion
[18:22:38] [Server thread/INFO] [net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer]: [GP] Running GriefPrevention 1.12.2-4.3.0.662
[GP] Running SpongeForge 1.12.2-2705-7.1.0-BETA-3481
[GP] Running luckperms 4.3.8
elfin egret
do other luckperms commands work ok?
woven path
hmm
yes:
lp group admin meta addprefix 100 "&4[Admin] "
[18:23:18] [Server thread/INFO] [nucleus]: Server ran the command: /lp group admin meta addprefix 100 "&4[Admin] "
[18:23:19] [pool-4-thread-1/INFO] [net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer]: [LP] admin had prefix '[Admin] ' set at a priority of 100 in context global.
lp group mod meta addprefix 90 "&6[Mod] "
[18:23:19] [Server thread/INFO] [nucleus]: Server ran the command: /lp group mod meta addprefix 90 "&6[Mod] "
x[18:23:19] [pool-4-thread-1/INFO] [net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer]: [LP] mod had prefix '[Mod] ' set at a priority of 90 in context global.
lp group member meta addprefix 50 "&1[Member] "
[18:23:19] [Server thread/INFO] [nucleus]: Server ran the command: /lp group member meta addprefix 50 "&1[Member] "
addprefix 25 "&2[Visitor] "[18:23:19] [pool-4-thread-1/INFO] [net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer]: [LP] member had prefix '[Member] ' set at a priority of 50 in context global.
lp group visitor meta addprefix 25 "&2[Visitor] "
[18:23:19] [Server thread/INFO] [nucleus]: Server ran the command: /lp group visitor meta addprefix 25 "&2[Visitor] "
[18:23:19] [pool-4-thread-1/INFO] [net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer]: [LP] visitor had prefix '[Visitor] ' set at a priority of 25 in context global.
woven path
sorry
woven path
none of my nucleus permissions are working either
woven path
that worked, meta set test test
It's working now... I haven't a clue. thanks for looking into it though
:/
late bloom
Hi
I'm making an advanced setup
2 tracks
if you have one of the ranks of the first track above default you get a prefix
if you have default rank in the first track and something above in the 2nd track you get the 2nd tracks prefix
but if you have a rank in both you get a prefix from the 2nd track and a suffix from the 1st track
static bear
I have a legit question
how do i change my default group?
I thought renaming default would work, but it just remakes the default role.. and I am sure there is a config for this, I just can't find it
lapis ibex
@static bear wiki
lapis ibex
I mean thatās what itās for
static bear
But asking mods is better.
static bear
Then I would figure it out.
lapis ibex
Keep in mind weāre volunteers
lapis ibex
You would after repeatedly answering the same 10 questions
Thatās why we have a place for the most common questions so we can focus on real issues and questions that arenāt easy to answer instead
static bear
Luckperms is not too hard to learn and figure it out, I have learned alot being here and doing it all myself..
There is a few things that I don't know.. but its a small amount.
lapis ibex
And Iām sure 99% of that is answered on the wiki
static bear
I am sure it is, but some people don't like reading š¤·
I am a hands on person.
I learn by asking and doing it myself.
lapis ibex
I mean there is absolutely nothing wrong with asking for clarification after reading the wiki if something is unclear
But keep in mind that the willingness of mods to help you is proportional to the amount of work and research you did on your own before asking
static bear
Yes i know, and I think i got it.
lapis ibex
And generally speaking Iām not here to help people with LP issues. Iām here to help people help themselves with LP issues
static bear
The wiki says keep the default role named default, but rename it.. I did that, did not work so I assume the config part is where it comes in, that being said if im right the config upon giving "default" it takes the role away and then gives a diff role?
lapis ibex
It did not say to rename it
woven path
is there a way to auto-promote?
lapis ibex
The page lists 3 alternatives
lapis ibex
And no changing displayname is not the same as renaming the group
@woven path you need a plugin for that
twilit steppe
I need help with luckperms
lapis ibex
Elaborate please. It seems my crystal ball broke a few days ago, so my mind reading capabilities arenāt at their best right now
twilit steppe
So i have made the rank, but how do i set the prefix thing?
static bear
In cmd or editor
twilit steppe
Well what command lol
static bear
cmd
lp group [group] meta addprefix [weight] [prefix]
editor:
prefix.[weight].[prefix]
lapis ibex
The wiki page Prefixes, Suffixes and Meta explains in detail which commands to use and how everything works
static bear
Alright brain, lemme ask you this, If i parent default with group a.. can they still rankup?
I could just test this actually.
Dont bother answering.
lapis ibex
Yes they can
static bear
Alright, Then everything works now.
lapis ibex
You should still test it though
lapis ibex
Good
static bear
with my group as default
with it as a.
Meaning i gotta re configure it, or just change display name
sighhh
lapis ibex
Or you could configure default assignments
static bear
Yea, but.. all 3 are ez
and all 3 take 5 minutes top
It just depends on which one I wanna do.
lapis ibex
Yup
static bear
I see.
well it looks like it works.
idk why setdisplay seems faster configuration wise.
queen latch
It is lmao
static bear
Looking at it, default takes a rejoin to fix.
being said, I could just rename the default no wait, "setdisplay" of default and just be done with it.
idk ill test this first.
orchid pagoda
Forgedperms crashed my server with the link you gave me o.O
queen latch
Hmm, it shouldn't have
orchid pagoda
it was the only plugin i installed and after i removed it the server started up
queen latch
Any error?
lapis ibex
@orchid pagoda whatās the file name of the plugin and what MC version are you using?
orchid pagoda
I'll have to install it again and see first
woven path
how do you find out what permission you are missing? is there a way in console or just google it?
lapis ibex
@woven path verbose. Check the wiki on how to use the command
woven path
thanks
lapis ibex
@orchid pagoda Knowing the MC Version would be a start
orchid pagoda
1.12.2
orchid pagoda
i downloaded it from the link provided here
lapis ibex
Iāve told you at least 5 times that you need to check the comments for the recent version
sonic tapir
i have a problem with our permissions. want both an ingame like beginners, citizens, etc. Also want a rank like vip, vip+, And we also have admin ranks. but atm when i rank up the ingame rank i lose the admin rank. What i want help with is to have multiple permissionlists at the same time. i searthing arownd and found LuckPerms and wonder it that can do the joba? so, how?
pure hinge
You mean a user with multiple groups assigned to them?
sonic tapir
yee atm if i rank upp in my main rank i lossing my admin power and only have the normal powers.
It is as if they are in the same list...
lapis ibex
@sonic tapir how are you āranking upā?
sonic tapir
on ingame time
pure hinge
Could you not like, add a permission that let you plugin ignore you?
Because LP cant really help with that i think.
As the plugin still will do it.
lapis ibex
How does the plugin do the rank ups?
sonic tapir
We've gonna have ingame time ranks, pay ranks, and admin ranks
pure hinge
Please respond to Brain's question xD
pure hinge
Also if the other plugin ignore OP and use(as example) /lp user <user> parent set <group>?
But, we need to know witch plugin do it and how. (Respond to Looven)
sonic tapir
@pure hinge but i dont wont it to skip me, i wont it to be side by side
pure hinge
looven, please respond to Brain, he can help you much more then me.
You ignore hem now for the 3th time š
static bear
Tell brain the plugin, might be ezier
lapis ibex
No
static bear
Okay or dont š¤·
lapis ibex
Because I donāt know the rankup plugins
static bear
Plugins normally make it always, group set - even PrisonRankup does it Group set.
pure hinge
There is not such plugin. (essential)
static bear
essentialx?
pure hinge
That have no auto rankup.
lapis ibex
And that still doesnāt answer how the rankup is performed
static bear
You are correct.. That I know of
pure hinge
Not really