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sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 6:56 PM

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lp user Keanu73 parent set owner

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 6:56 PM

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did that

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 6:56 PM

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but your not

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your in default

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 6:56 PM

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yeah setprimarygroup

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try it

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 6:57 PM

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Theres no vault on sponge

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 6:57 PM

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oh

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 6:57 PM

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primary groups are a vault thing

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 6:57 PM

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@sudden sun done

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 6:57 PM

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and now what group does is say for you?

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 6:57 PM

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owner 😄

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🤦

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 6:58 PM

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hey Mohron can i ask u something

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 6:58 PM

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ok now prefix?

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 6:58 PM

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maybe noob questions

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 6:58 PM

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go for it

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 6:58 PM

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do we run multi server in sponge?

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something like bungee?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 6:58 PM

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but i'm not a bukkit/spigot user

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yes

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 6:58 PM

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done the prefix already http://prntscr.com/d6frwi

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sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 6:58 PM

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I do right now

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No test it

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does it show for you

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 6:58 PM

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No.. http://prntscr.com/d6fs2p

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bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 6:59 PM

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oh so how do up copy the same plugin for multi servers

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can u give me some advice to do this faster?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 6:59 PM

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Well for anythign that supports it use MySQL

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lp group owner info

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:00 PM

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http://prntscr.com/d6fskx

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bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:00 PM

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like u want to copy LuckPerms for 5 servers then how can u run automatically?

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:00 PM

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http://prntscr.com/d6fsuo

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hmmmm....

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:00 PM

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Gotta clean that up lol

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:00 PM

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How lmao

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oh wait

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:01 PM

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?

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:01 PM

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nvm

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ok

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:01 PM

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Well I just copy my config and only edit the name of the server

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:01 PM

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@sudden sun Is the duplicate prefixes the issue?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:02 PM

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Could be

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:02 PM

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and 1 more question how to start all the servers automatically after reboot the machine?

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:02 PM

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I'm just gonna delete the group lmao

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:02 PM

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That's a physicall server thing

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that works

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We run Multicraft on our dedi

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And it takes care of starting our servers

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:03 PM

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oh

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its good thing to know

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:04 PM

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Multicraft is started on boot by linux

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so it all works

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but we don't restart our server

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except in very rare cases

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:04 PM

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so multicraft will boot up all the servers after restart the actual machine too?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:04 PM

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If you set it up to it can

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But Multicraft isn't free

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:05 PM

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yeah i know that

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its why i havent use it yet

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to save money

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:05 PM

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there's a 1 time licence

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:05 PM

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😂

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:05 PM

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That's what i bought

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:05 PM

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wat

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:05 PM

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for up to 10 servers

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:05 PM

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u meant life time licence?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:06 PM

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same thing, lifetime 1time buy 😄

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:06 PM

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oh really! can i ask how much?

elfin egret Nov 12, 2016, 7:06 PM

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don't use multicraft

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it's terrrible

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:06 PM

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It is

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:06 PM

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^^^

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use the old-school way

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and save more money 😉

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or let greedy retards do the work for you

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:06 PM

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but its cost me lots of time to copy a same plugin to many servers

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:07 PM

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Shouldn't

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:07 PM

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and start-up servers after reboot the machine

elfin egret Nov 12, 2016, 7:07 PM

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right

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use this instead, then

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https://pterodactyl.io/

Pterodactyl - Free and built for all types of games. Supports Vanilla Minecraft, BungeeCord, Spigot, SRCDS Servers, and many more.

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:07 PM

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Oooo

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:07 PM

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@sudden sun prefix ain't working, what to do?! http://prntscr.com/d6fw4o

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sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:07 PM

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and it shows up on info?

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rerun the addprefix but make it removeprefix

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and then boost the priority to like 100

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or more

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:08 PM

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Well thanks again @elfin egret 👌

elfin egret Nov 12, 2016, 7:08 PM

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you can just type "null" instead of a prefix string

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and it will remove all prefixes at that priority

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:08 PM

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nice

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ah

elfin egret Nov 12, 2016, 7:09 PM

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np MrDigger

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:09 PM

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When i set up my dedi i couldn't find an alternate to Multicraft to sve my life

elfin egret Nov 12, 2016, 7:09 PM

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literally anything

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i'd rather use tmux shells than multicraft

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:10 PM

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You have to be able to open up your consoles lol

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and when you have multiple people

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:10 PM

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@sudden sun Removed it

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:10 PM

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You need a contol panel type system

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Now set it with a high priority

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:10 PM

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K.

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:10 PM

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and did you ever set a prefix on your user?

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:10 PM

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No..

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:10 PM

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i can open console and tried crons

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:10 PM

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I want it for the group..

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:11 PM

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but some error sometime

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:11 PM

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What plugins do you have installed

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:11 PM

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me?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:11 PM

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no

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Do any of them modify chat as well as nucleus?

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:12 PM

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Hmm..

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I got chitchat..

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that modifies chat..

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should I remove that?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:12 PM

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Yup

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Or set it up

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Only 1 plugin modifying chat

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And shut off nucleus

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They be fighting i bet

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Just modify chat in nucleus

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if you want to keep it

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:13 PM

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Ok..

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:13 PM

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the pannel @elfin egret gave me should save me lots of time from running my servers with black console lol

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:13 PM

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But i can't help with chit chat

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:13 PM

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Ik.

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:13 PM

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I haven't used it

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Well i'd reeally like to get back to playing

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:14 PM

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Still doesn't work -_-

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:14 PM

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😄

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:15 PM

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i know that feeling lol

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:15 PM

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Which are you trying to use

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:15 PM

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Nucleus

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I removed Chitchat

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:15 PM

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okay make sure you didn't break it

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jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:15 PM

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I used {{prefix}}

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:15 PM

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if that's not just like that it won't work

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:15 PM

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and also when u have to get creative to test something then some players think we are not fair

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lol

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😂

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:16 PM

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Let me see your prefix format

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in the config

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:16 PM

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http://prntscr.com/d6g0as

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sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:16 PM

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copy paste man lol

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scren are obnoius for 1 line lol

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name/displayname lol

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:16 PM

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So is there any issue?

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??

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:17 PM

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no should be good

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How much of LP have you set up?

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:17 PM

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What do you mean?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:17 PM

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Like what all have you configured

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something seems to be taking priority over the prefix you set

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and please please tell me you're using the latest of SF, LP, and Nucleus

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:18 PM

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SF?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:18 PM

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because sponge bugs are fixed almost daily

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:18 PM

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Oh

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:18 PM

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Sponge forge

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Also have forge itself up to date

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ignore the client version, servers can use latest

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When using sponge, it's the best idea

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:19 PM

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I thought you HAD to use the forge version sponge specifies

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:20 PM

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nope

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:20 PM

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Oh....

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:20 PM

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I asked blood

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:20 PM

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that's what it said..

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:20 PM

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he set me straight

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also don't use the recoomended sponge

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latest

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the recommended is super bugged lol

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:21 PM

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i use latest

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no worries

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:21 PM

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good

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once you're all up to date, we can continue debuging :/

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@bleak tendon This is why you don't want to use sponge

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Its still very immature and full of bugs

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:24 PM

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lol

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and also

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i dont want to point out bad thing

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but i just checked plugins side

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plugins site*

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not very abtractive to me

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:25 PM

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i don't want to use spigot because i'm running a modded server

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and kcauldron is old

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:25 PM

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It's not ready

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:25 PM

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it doesn't support 1.8.9

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:26 PM

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Oh, nvm i'm done with you 😄

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those sponge builds are horrible

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Sponge ditched 1.8.9 and 1.9.4

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you need to move on

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:26 PM

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😦

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but dude

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almost no mods are ready for 1.10 i don't think

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:27 PM

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lol...

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https://www.feed-the-beast.com/projects/ftb-infinity-lite-1-10/

Feed The Beast

FTB Infinity Lite 1.10

Infinity Lite is a mix of Tech and Magic mods compiled into a medium sized modpack from the FTB team that is designed for solo play as well as small and...

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:27 PM

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i want a custom modpack..

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i want my own server..

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i don't want ftb..

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:27 PM

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I'm not saying use FTB

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I'm saying, there's plenty of mods

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there's a FTB pack out, that's proof

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They don't release for like ever

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:28 PM

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wait so if our server is modded

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:28 PM

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i think 1.7.10 is taking 1 step forward

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:28 PM

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they run unstable for like ever

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:28 PM

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do clients need to download mods?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:28 PM

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Mods

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not sponge

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or plugins

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Mods add content

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And have to be on both sides

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it's like a whole new game

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so beautiful

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:29 PM

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oh ok sound interesting

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:29 PM

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I can't play vanilla

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:29 PM

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so it will be done auto

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:29 PM

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not at all

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:29 PM

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or players need to go to a web link

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to down?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:29 PM

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Most people use a modded launcher

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Curse, FTB, Tekkit, etc

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ATL

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:30 PM

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u meant we have to create our own server modded client?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:30 PM

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It lets you download and install modpacks

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no

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You use one of the ones already out there

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but modded players don't use the vanilla launcher

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:31 PM

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so it will run like cracked clients?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:31 PM

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Not at all

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It just does all the hard work for you

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No cracked stuff

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:32 PM

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so the online-mode still there?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:32 PM

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yes

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Unless you bungee

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:p

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:32 PM

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i thought since we using un-offcial launcher from mojang

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then we dont need premium accounts anymore

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:32 PM

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Curse still uses the offical one

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It just sets up the laucher profile for you

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And removes all the hard work

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:33 PM

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yeah after bungee must be offline anyway

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:33 PM

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The others launch Mincraft via commandline

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:33 PM

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well i need to have a good reading about these things soon

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:33 PM

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But still using a premium account

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Forge

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^ the base of all mods

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Minecraft Forge is a blessing and a curse 😄

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:34 PM

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yeah i wished mojang should fix their code instead of update to 1.11

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lol

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:34 PM

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Anyways this has nothing to do with LuckPerms... we hijacked @elfin egrets discord

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:35 PM

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@sudden sun i updated forge

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:35 PM

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😄

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:35 PM

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I'm sorry @jolly cedar, I don't have time to support 1.8.9

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:35 PM

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...rude

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:35 PM

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I wrongly assumed you were running 1.10.2

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:35 PM

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lol why tho ?^

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:36 PM

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Old sponge builds are broken

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:36 PM

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"rude"

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:36 PM

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Very broken

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I can't fix that

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Sponge is still very new

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:36 PM

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there's some mods i want which aren't made for 1.10.2 yet :/

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:36 PM

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And only the bleeding edge gets bug fixes

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I'm sorry, sucks for you

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:37 PM

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@sudden sun why df can't you help fix it?

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:37 PM

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You have to move on or deal with major bugs

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:37 PM

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show me a major bug

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and then i'll move on

oblique pebble Nov 12, 2016, 7:37 PM

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1.8.9 is dead

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:37 PM

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You're experiencing one now

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That stuff works perfect on 1.10.2

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:37 PM

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stamps 1.10.2

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alrighty then

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erecting a version converter

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dispenser sounds

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:37 PM

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And they only fix bugs on 1.10.2

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^ most important fact

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Sponge isn't bukkit

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backwards compatibility is horrible

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1 day it will be there

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but not durring major development

bleak tendon Nov 12, 2016, 7:39 PM

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but with spigot many plugins are dying now

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this is also a big problem

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anyway talk later guys

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good luck with ur servers too

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:40 PM

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@jolly cedar Look at sponge plugins, they should all be labled with an API level

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Anything that's API 5+ will probably be broke on 1.8.9

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:42 PM

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But what about everything that's API 5 but not API 6?!!?!?

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the plugins will frikkin complain!

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:42 PM

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1.8.9 is api 4

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:42 PM

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ik.

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:42 PM

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And the API changes are lessening over time

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eventually they won't be major breaks

oblique pebble Nov 12, 2016, 7:43 PM

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and all the majour plugins are quick to update to the api changes

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 7:44 PM

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And they stop supporting the old APIs

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if it works cool, if not, sorry

jolly cedar Nov 12, 2016, 7:44 PM

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crap.. this is hurting my head...

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why did nobody tell me this earlier

prime gate Nov 12, 2016, 10:24 PM

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Pretty much what @sudden sun said. It's 1.10.2 or die for sponge. Either latest or nothing at all lol

sudden sun Nov 12, 2016, 10:25 PM

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Eventual that won't be the case

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But that day isn't today

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:36 AM

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well @elfin egret

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i tried the panel u gave me

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its so complicated

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the web panel is running

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but still dont know how to set up the daemon and the node configuration

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but thanks for sharing any way

elfin egret Nov 13, 2016, 9:40 AM

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Yeah

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I've never actually used it myself

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however, I'm sure you can ask them for help

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the guy who makes it is super active.

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:41 AM

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is it? I put some messages on their discord and no one answer yet

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since few hrs ago

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and now i dont know how to uninstall every i installed

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do u have any idea for that?

elfin egret Nov 13, 2016, 9:42 AM

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Nop

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sorry 😛

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I'd just wait for a reply on their discord 😃

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 9:42 AM

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man

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i'll have to start my server over again 😃

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😦

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:42 AM

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yeah i think so

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maybe we should work together @jolly cedar

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lol

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 9:43 AM

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hmmmmm

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idk

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i like to be on my own

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but well if you mean helping each other

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:43 AM

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im also trying to start up a server but on spigot

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 9:44 AM

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hmm

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i've hosted spigot servers before

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kcauldron in particular

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but kcauldron is old

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it still gets backports

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and stuff

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but it's old

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that's why i use sponge

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:44 AM

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basically its running fine now

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but im so tired to update same plugin

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for many servers

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and start up servers after reboot actual machine

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still cant find a good way yet

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also how to merge config files so they will have same config for same plugin in all servers

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 9:49 AM

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hmmmm

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currently i need to start over

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because sponge 1.8.9+ are broken

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only 1.10.2 is actually getting bug fixes

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:49 AM

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r u running on dedicated or shared?

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 9:50 AM

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dedicated

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basically my server

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:50 AM

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are u using any panel?

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 9:51 AM

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no

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i use old-school

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i don't want to spend dollars and dollars on things that could just be done in a command anyway

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do you run linux? @bleak tendon

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on your server

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:51 AM

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yeah i do

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 9:51 AM

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i can try and help you

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set up spigot

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ok

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is it fine if we start over?

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:52 AM

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i got backup 500G

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 9:52 AM

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ah ok

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:52 AM

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so i think to backup all the worlds

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and just reinstall clear os

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 9:52 AM

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tbh

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it's nicer to start over

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 9:52 AM

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then put all servers back on

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 9:52 AM

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rather than walk through the mess

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ok anyway

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before we do that

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i need to access your server

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or

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if you don't want me to access your server with putty, you can just send me screenshots

ruby quest Nov 13, 2016, 1:13 PM

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So this was a facanating conversation xD multicraft Minecraft panel gets my recommend even if the themeing is a bit bland as for the actual servers spigot vs sponge vs kcauldron I would go for sponge coz it's showing promise that it's going to last a hell of a lot longer and it's easier to deal with than both of the others

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 1:14 PM

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i dont how the panel will be

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but its working now with their support

ruby quest Nov 13, 2016, 1:18 PM

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Once it's setup fully and properly even if you restarted the dedicated server it should restart the panel and servers shortly after we had to restart our server the other week to install updates and fix a zombie process and as soon as the server was up multicraft got to work and we could finish working on the packs

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 1:19 PM

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oh no im not using multicraft

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i using the one recommended by Luck

ruby quest Nov 13, 2016, 1:21 PM

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What one is this?? Curiosity has spawned lol

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 1:32 PM

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the name is really weird i told u lol

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Pterodactyl Panel

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but their support is very friendly

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however i though it was running fine and ok to setup servers

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but no cannot do any thing yet

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wat i got is a pannel page but functions are not working yet

ruby quest Nov 13, 2016, 1:43 PM

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I know this panel it looks like a continuation and greatly improved version of the older unused pufferpanel I used years ago when I was just a low ranking staff member

elfin egret Nov 13, 2016, 1:48 PM

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It's made by one of the old PufferPanel devs

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it looks great though, and open source, and free.

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best of all, they're actively developing it

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if you have a sane feature suggestion, the liklihood is they'll add it

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which you'd never get with multicraft 😛

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 1:52 PM

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yeah but still can make it up and running yet

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when i press Create new server after filled everything

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i got just a white page

elfin egret Nov 13, 2016, 1:53 PM

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Ask them about it then 😛

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I can't help you with it

bleak tendon Nov 13, 2016, 1:53 PM

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yeah they helped me to make the panel working now

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but still cannot create server yet

ruby quest Nov 13, 2016, 1:54 PM

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I doubt we will swap from multicraft now since it's been paid for but puffer panel was bad years ago half of it never worked the way it was intended but that was not my server I'm glad to see someone brought it back and fixed it up good

jolly cedar Nov 13, 2016, 3:06 PM

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making my own mod 😛

sudden sun Nov 13, 2016, 5:15 PM

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@NoxIceCat what does it being paid for matter lol

ruby quest Nov 13, 2016, 5:24 PM

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That it's a pain that it had to be paid for lol

sudden sun Nov 13, 2016, 5:25 PM

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meh

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I'd rather use something actively developed anyday

ruby quest Nov 13, 2016, 5:30 PM

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Ain't multicraft still being worked on?

elfin egret Nov 13, 2016, 5:37 PM

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probably is

sudden sun Nov 13, 2016, 5:37 PM

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I haven't seen one update lol

elfin egret Nov 13, 2016, 5:37 PM

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https://www.multicraft.org/site/page/news

xhost.ch GmbH

Multicraft: The most popular Minecraft server admin control panel and hosting solution

sudden sun Nov 13, 2016, 5:38 PM

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ah preivew build

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so one update that's not released since we started using it 😄

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plus the free one looks better

ruby quest Nov 13, 2016, 5:40 PM

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Yup xD

warped jetty Nov 14, 2016, 12:41 PM

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@elfin egret I found a better workaround for LuckPerms loaded before Chatcontrol, if you add load: STARTUP LuckPerms is loaded before, because chatcontrol use the default who is POSTWORLD

load no Explicitly state when the plugin should be loaded. if not supplied will default to postworld load: STARTUP Has two possible values STARTUP POSTWORLD

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 12:45 PM

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Ah

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Ok, I'll change that. Thanks

warped jetty Nov 14, 2016, 12:50 PM

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Just found this on another plugin 😃

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Not working at all but most plugin don't use this i think

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 1:52 PM

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Eventually I'll bug you about inheritance again @elfin egret

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It's still funky for us :/

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My name is forever white lol

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 1:54 PM

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Just become a patrion that way its gotta be done xD

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 1:57 PM

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Eh I can't afford monthly donations atm. I'll just stick to onetime donations for now

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 2:00 PM

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Wow xD

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But true

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 2:00 PM

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Why don't you donate?

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 2:13 PM

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Bank is litrally empty :(

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 5:52 PM

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woooo

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http://i.imgur.com/xlZB2DD.png

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 5:53 PM

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Errr... Wall of permission/flag nodes

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XD

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 5:53 PM

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i'm adding commands to allow Sponge users to edit more than just users/groups

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the Sponge permissions API spans far beyond that

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 5:54 PM

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Interesting

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 5:55 PM

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you can basically query and edit the data behind other plugins

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 5:55 PM

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Sounds like good news for us!

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 5:55 PM

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lots of plugins will start using the Permission API to store their default data, etc

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as far as I know, no other plugins actually expose it

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but it's actually quite easy for me to do in LP thanks to my command management system

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 8:19 PM

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@sudden sun you around?

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I need some more info if you want me to fix option inheritance

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it's working fine in my testing

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 8:19 PM

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Think he is still in work but I just tagged him n all xD

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 8:20 PM

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you work on the same server right

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it was an issue with name colour, correct?

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 8:20 PM

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Yeah

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 8:20 PM

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ok

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can you please send me the output to the following commands

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 8:20 PM

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Dont know for the second question tho xD

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sure

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 8:20 PM

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./lp user mohron parent info

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./lp user mohron meta info

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 8:22 PM

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📎 Capture.PNG

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Above admin it says "Mohron's Parent Groups:"

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 8:27 PM

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You and I should be in Admin and trusted nox

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 8:27 PM

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Thats the hub server

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 8:28 PM

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Groups are still global

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Just not perms

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Check your groups

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 8:28 PM

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To promote was this "/lpb user Thalissi promote player" correct?

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 8:28 PM

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Yes

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 8:29 PM

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he didn't get it on infinity

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 8:29 PM

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We changed plugins remember

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You have to wait

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You changed his perms on the bungee

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DB sync is every 3 minutes

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 8:30 PM

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Ah cool

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My parent groups are admin and trusted

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 8:31 PM

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k

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one sec

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just making the meta info command a tad more helpful

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 8:31 PM

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thats my meta

📎 Capture1.PNG

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 8:37 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/6RYzsam.png

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much better

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ok but uh

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regarding your issue

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I'm fairly certain it's an issue with your group weights / inheritance

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however, the change I just made should make that very obvious in the meta info command

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https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/commit/b36a33f0158abbf6838d960fc2bbe2b52a461064

GitHub

Make meta info command show where meta was inherited from · luck...

LuckPerms - An advanced permissions implementation for Bukkit/Spigot, BungeeCord and Sponge.

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 9:34 PM

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@elfin egret Can you add a way to block the opening of inventorys??

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or is that already in

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 9:34 PM

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No

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that's beyond the scope of a permissions plugin

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 9:34 PM

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Thought so xD

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 9:34 PM

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you need an extra plugin to add that functionality

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 9:35 PM

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Players join our hub with modded clients and no matter the pack if they press E the client crashes so I'm tryna think of a way to block it for now

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 9:35 PM

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err

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if you know which mod and have a stack trace

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ask the Sponge guys

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it might be a sponge side thing.

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 9:36 PM

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Well stupidly I just did the same thing myself xD

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Tryna also find an issue that keeps blocking the server from starting with sponge too but theres not much to go off

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 9:37 PM

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Uhh

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I can't really help with that 😛

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Sorry.

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 9:39 PM

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Yeah I know lol its just me being a pain to myself and doing 5 things at once xD my website dns stuff, direwolf20 1.10 server, find something to block that crash on clients and clean my pc at the same time xD

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so about 4

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 10:33 PM

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@warped jetty thanks again!

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https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/commit/de09ae94b81d52c41efe3c9971e4e45ed8759d96

GitHub

Fix Vault hook - thanks @Yann151924 · lucko/LuckPerms@de09ae9

LuckPerms - An advanced permissions implementation for Bukkit/Spigot, BungeeCord and Sponge.

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😃

warped jetty Nov 14, 2016, 10:35 PM

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No prob :) @elfin egret

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 10:39 PM

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Just thinking

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I can also add load-before: [Vault]

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That way, anything that depends on Vault, will be guaranteed to load after LuckPerms

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 10:40 PM

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I look at our groups soon. The meta info should help

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 10:40 PM

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Ya

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I reckon you probably made a small mistake somewhere

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Went ahead and did that Yann

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https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/commit/b72e5f5437ff0e93169dc2179b98184c861cdc72

GitHub

Update plugin.yml to make LuckPerms always enable before Vault ·...

LuckPerms - An advanced permissions implementation for Bukkit/Spigot, BungeeCord and Sponge.

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hopefully that doesn't break stuff for non-vault users

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but it should make it 100% reliable

oblique pebble Nov 14, 2016, 11:07 PM

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@ruby quest @sudden sun what are you guys running your hub server as sponge forge or sponge vanilla?

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:07 PM

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Sponge forge

oblique pebble Nov 14, 2016, 11:08 PM

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Have you tried sponge vanilla to stop the inventory crashes?

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Assuming the hub is intended for any player

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And has no mods

ruby quest Nov 14, 2016, 11:13 PM

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We havent tried that but it might be worth a shot. Never thought of that tbh xD thanks

oblique pebble Nov 14, 2016, 11:14 PM

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Or run a spigot based hub I know that works as that's what I do :p

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:16 PM

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@elfin egret you can't reload configs right?

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:31 PM

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Nop

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:32 PM

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and I'm still having the problem

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:32 PM

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right

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but I didn't actually fix anything

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:32 PM

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📎 unknown.png

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:32 PM

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rather just added some stuff to help find the issue

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ok so

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:33 PM

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📎 unknown.png

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:33 PM

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your prefix should display as ceo

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:33 PM

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Prefix is fine

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name color is what doesn't work

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📎 unknown.png

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:34 PM

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should be &a?

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:34 PM

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yes

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because admin doesn't have namecolor set

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:34 PM

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does trusted have a high group weight

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:34 PM

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no staff groups do

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:35 PM

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well that's why then

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:35 PM

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  admin=90
  supervisor=80
  moderator=70
  assistant=60
  ultimate=50
  elite=40
  vip=30
  trusted=20
  member=10
}```

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:35 PM

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does admin inherit any groups

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admins hierarchy will be checked first

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:36 PM

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Admin > Super > mod >assis >default

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:36 PM

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so if admin or any of admins parents have the option

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that will be used

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:36 PM

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so remove it from default?

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:36 PM

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if you want trusted to take priority, it needs a higher weight

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right

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i guess so

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:37 PM

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I don't want player staff perms mixing

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:37 PM

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just have your staff have two ranks then

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and don't have staff ranks inherit from default

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but that's why yours isn't showing correctly

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as admin takes priority over trusted

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:38 PM

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will staff still get defaults perms?

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:38 PM

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only if they're a member of "default"

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:38 PM

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or higher

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:38 PM

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yes

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or any group which inherits default

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:39 PM

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so /lp group asisistant parent remove default?

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:39 PM

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yes

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whatever you need to do in order to remove those entries in your meta info

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:41 PM

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must be wrong :/

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Okay

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that worked

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:44 PM

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woo

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:44 PM

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I'm stupid 😄

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:44 PM

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ok, i'm going to sleep now

sudden sun Nov 14, 2016, 11:44 PM

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Good night!

elfin egret Nov 14, 2016, 11:44 PM

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if you find anything else, i'll get back to you tomorrow

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👋

foggy quartz Nov 15, 2016, 12:59 AM

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i have this error GRAVE [main] INFO me.lucko.luckperms.lib.hikari.HikariDataSource - luckperms - Started.

oblique pebble Nov 15, 2016, 6:22 AM

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@elfin egret getting issues where players are loading in with no perms, some times a reconect normally fixes this just wondered if this was a known issue, using on latest SF with a MYsql DB

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:46 AM

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@foggy quartz That's not an error 😛

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@oblique pebble I guess the same issue as https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/issues/43

GitHub

Ranks randomly dissapearing · Issue #43 · lucko/LuckPerms

Using LuckPermsSponge-2.14.6.jar, certain players ranks, permissions, prefixes and suffixes randomly disappear(all at the same time). I cannot confirm whether its more than one player at a time bec...

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Does it still happen on the latest?

oblique pebble Nov 15, 2016, 8:49 AM

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yea i have the latest as just done all the testing for bloods options

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also check his channel for next question 😛

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:50 AM

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let me know if it happens again

oblique pebble Nov 15, 2016, 8:54 AM

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will do

ruby quest Nov 15, 2016, 1:05 PM

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On joining the server twice when the servers lag has been really bad twice i have noticed this missing rank issue but that was when i was doing world editing stuff and it kept kicking me and taking too long to connect to the db

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Never had it other than that

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 1:10 PM

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if it can't connect to the DB

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then that behaviour is (somewhat) expected

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although it should just prevent you from joining

ruby quest Nov 15, 2016, 1:40 PM

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I think it gave me an error and told me to rejoin or contact an admin (myself xD)

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 1:50 PM

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sounds about right

ruby quest Nov 15, 2016, 1:56 PM

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Only issue was i was still in game when it happened lol ah well it goes away on a relog anyway

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 2:19 PM

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was it a message in chat?

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if that's the case, then are you using bungee??

sudden sun Nov 15, 2016, 2:46 PM

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We just started using bungee

ruby quest Nov 15, 2016, 2:56 PM

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Yeah we went bungeecord about half a week ago and that has actually helped in a good few ways lol

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 3:09 PM

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if that's the case, then are you using bungee??

ruby quest Nov 15, 2016, 3:10 PM

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Message dupe lol

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 3:36 PM

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i blame discord

ruby quest Nov 15, 2016, 4:12 PM

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I blame discord for a lot of things and i still wish they would introduce a theme market or soomething better than these bland ones

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 4:28 PM

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Ahoy! I just found out aobut Luckperms

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It sounds utterlky amazing! im so glad someone is makign a decent open source permissions system

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been using groupmanager for 4 years, looking for something to convert to and I HATE pex

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 4:39 PM

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@ruby quest If I had things my way this would be on IRC, so uhh, I guess discord is a good compromise 😛

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 4:39 PM

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IRC is boss

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but discord is actually way more user friendly

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 4:40 PM

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@fiery granite Make sure you read the GM conversion wiki page 😃

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 4:40 PM

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I really realyl like discord

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hah I have it open now!

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working on it as we speak!

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 4:40 PM

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Good good 😃

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 4:40 PM

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I forgot to put the Gm jar in the plugins fodler

ruby quest Nov 15, 2016, 4:40 PM

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IRC might end up vanishing if discord keeps taking over tho

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 4:40 PM

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Can I just say how impressed I am already wwith this plugin

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Like it seems really professionalk

ruby quest Nov 15, 2016, 4:41 PM

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Never used it but discord seams to take over both voice and text at the moment

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 4:41 PM

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having that many database options is insane

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I personally love to edit all my files in a tet editor, in yaml

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im so used to it, I dont ever use in-game commands

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teh fact thats built in with the option to move to mysql later

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blows my mind!

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Im hoping it as gopod as it looks ;p

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oh im "PirateCraft" on Spigot btw

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./luckperms migration GroupManger WorldName; Just does nothing from console, just sits there nothing happens

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./luckperms migration shows groupmanager active in green

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:01 PM

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huh strange

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 5:02 PM

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Can someone please tell me the main format of a group and also tell me how to merge groupmanager with luckperms if that's possible?

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:04 PM

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@elfin egret I had anther admin of mine try it on his own setup too, hes getting the same issie with GM

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:05 PM

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@upper seal Read the migration section of the wiki.

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@fiery granite So, nothing happens?

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:05 PM

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nah nothing

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no errors, no stacktrace

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:06 PM

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Alright

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give me 30 mins or so

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:06 PM

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Im using the EssentialsX version of GM no idea if that makes a difference

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I cant even find it on their website any more

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:06 PM

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it shouldn't make a difference

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:06 PM

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nah it shouldnt they didnt want anything to do with it

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I think it was just recompiles

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 5:07 PM

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I tried the migration thingy but I'm having the same issue as @fiery granite is having ...

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:07 PM

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I'm not at home atm, so gimme 30 mins to get home 😛

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Alright, same applies then 😛

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:07 PM

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@upper seal well perfect timing to come onto discord!

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@elfin egret sersiouly amazing help, thanks a ton

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IM off out to the gym for a few hours, so no rush I still have to convert my Stats from stats2 to the statz plugin somehow before I can use this perms

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theres no way this will work with the version of autorank I have its ancient haha

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 5:08 PM

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Kk thanks lel I thought I was doing something wrong 🙈

verbal wigeon Nov 15, 2016, 5:12 PM

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Hey @elfin egret , i also tried to migrate groupmanager to luckperms and it didnt work

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Thought there was a problem with groupmanager, but then i also tried to migrate PEX which also didnt work

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 5:13 PM

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Lel I had to make sure it wasn't me who was doing something wrong :p

verbal wigeon Nov 15, 2016, 5:14 PM

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^^

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:14 PM

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Okay

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Will push out a fix in 30-40 mins or so

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😃

verbal wigeon Nov 15, 2016, 5:15 PM

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Awesome, thanks alot

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 5:18 PM

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okkie thanks :p

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:26 PM

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Those of you having issues with Migration, try this build: https://ci.lucko.me/job/LuckPerms/101/

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That's assuming the build you were trying on before was the latest dev build

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:27 PM

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LuckPerms-2.14.9.jar?

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:27 PM

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the build on Spigot shouldn't have the same issue on that basis

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:27 PM

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for spigot

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well im using paperspigot

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:27 PM

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so maybe i'm wrong

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:27 PM

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tha shoudlnt make a differnce

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:27 PM

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Nop

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Anything later than 2.14.9 won't work

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i know what the issue is there

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but if builds before then don't work either

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then that's a different issue

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:29 PM

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tried that build #101 nothing

verbal wigeon Nov 15, 2016, 5:29 PM

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^

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 5:33 PM

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Okay

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 5:41 PM

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Still the same issue or nah?

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:42 PM

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@upper seal he working on it 😃

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 5:43 PM

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ohw kk so I shouldn't try to use the #101 build?

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 5:57 PM

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Nah me and Markus tried it

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 6:18 PM

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Ta daaa

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https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/commit/e296b1df606e54af82671f8737a5ccaa20759e41

GitHub

Fix migration commands never being executed · lucko/LuckPerms@e2...

LuckPerms - An advanced permissions implementation for Bukkit/Spigot, BungeeCord and Sponge.

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 6:18 PM

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YAY thanks :p

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 6:18 PM

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build will be here when it's done 😛

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https://ci.lucko.me/job/LuckPerms/104/

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 6:19 PM

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Looking forward to it :p

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yas didn't encounter any errors thanks :p

sudden sun Nov 15, 2016, 6:27 PM

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I have to update all the time lol

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So much work

verbal wigeon Nov 15, 2016, 6:36 PM

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I migrated the groups from PEX to LuckPerms and it worked witouth any errors

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Thanks for the quick fix

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 6:44 PM

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Np

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 6:59 PM

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I'll give it a go when I'm home in my 76k player data!

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Thanks! Looking forward to testing

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:02 PM

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76k players in GM???

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Jeez.

sudden sun Nov 15, 2016, 7:02 PM

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lol sound slike purging is in order :/

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:03 PM

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Hahha I love data

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I have players come back after 2 years offline before

sudden sun Nov 15, 2016, 7:03 PM

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I love that unranked players aren't stored in LP

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no reason for it

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:03 PM

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Yup

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pretty neat

sudden sun Nov 15, 2016, 7:04 PM

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much cleaner that way

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:04 PM

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zPerms did the same, so I stole their idea on that one 😛

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:04 PM

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Can't query no data 👊

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:04 PM

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Well, the data still has to be queried

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but if nothing is found, LP assumes their default

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:04 PM

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I'll build a web ui front if I end up switching

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 7:05 PM

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anyone who uses the rankup plugin?

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:05 PM

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I use autorank

upper seal Nov 15, 2016, 7:05 PM

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fuzzle I tried to use the plugin with rankup not sure why but it's not ranking up anyone D:

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:07 PM

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Autorank-2 works well with LP

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although, if you have issues

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you need to update to the latest dev build of autorank

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actually

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no

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ffs

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great

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the dev of autorank completely reversed my PR

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great job 👍

sudden sun Nov 15, 2016, 7:10 PM

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Lmao

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:10 PM

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completely reversed it

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https://github.com/Armarr/Autorank-2/pull/401

GitHub

Check for dependencies after all plugins have loaded by lucko · ...

There are a huge variety of permission plugins, so using soft-depend is not a sensible option. Unless a user is using one of the permission plugins in the list, it's entirely down to luck as to whe...

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oh well

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his loss

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i'll just maintain a fork if this is going to be an issue

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:16 PM

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That's so so sad

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I actually am stuck on a really old autorank

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Wonder what version I use

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:17 PM

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eh

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:17 PM

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Please try and push the code again

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:17 PM

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just use Autorank-2

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i've commented on the commit where he reversed it

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https://github.com/Armarr/Autorank-2/commit/3b84d8fddb4cd4300c802a54e6928043487e9890

GitHub

Add soft dependencies back because they were nice. · Armarr/Auto...

Autorank-2 - Rewrite of the Autorank plugin for Bukkit

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:17 PM

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Then were stuck with future big fixes

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And just stuck

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:18 PM

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i'll just maintain my own fork if needs be

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:18 PM

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I have to use auto rank

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I'll message him

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Asking him why he did of

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:18 PM

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it might actually work without issues

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I have a clever way of getting around that sort of thing in LP now

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so it's not a huge deal

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:18 PM

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I'm out ATM I'll try when I'm home

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Guy on spigot said it doesn't earlier

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:19 PM

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that was the older version

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idk

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just give it a try

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I know of one network who uses a LP / AutoRank combo

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:19 PM

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I will when I'm home 👌

ruby quest Nov 15, 2016, 7:19 PM

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Us xD

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:19 PM

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BTW I run PirateCraft

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I will use autorank

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Always have

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:22 PM

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oh

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I just replied to you on Spigot

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without making the link

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woops

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:22 PM

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Haha no sweat man

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I'll be out for another hour yet anyway

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:23 PM

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No hurry

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:51 PM

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lol

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response from autorank author: "hehe"

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:57 PM

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0_0

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public link?

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I just dont get it...

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why would he remove what you added?

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:57 PM

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ignorance I guess

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https://github.com/Armarr/Autorank-2/commit/3b84d8fddb4cd4300c802a54e6928043487e9890

GitHub

Add soft dependencies back because they were nice. · Armarr/Auto...

Autorank-2 - Rewrite of the Autorank plugin for Bukkit

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anyway

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it's no big deal

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:57 PM

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😦 it is to me

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:57 PM

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should still work

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:57 PM

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I need them to work together

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:57 PM

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there's just no reason for him to do it

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:58 PM

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I cant use Pex I hate it

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:58 PM

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i have workarounds already in LP which prevent it

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:58 PM

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and I dont like the way zpermissions works

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 7:58 PM

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so he could totally fuck up autorank's dependency management, and LP should still work with it

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i force LuckPerms to load before Vault

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so anything that depends on Vault, also depends on LuckPerms via proxy

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 7:59 PM

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Sorry being ignormant, whats PR stand for?

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:00 PM

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Pull Request

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:00 PM

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Ah right

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:00 PM

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It's a github term

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:00 PM

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Not down with the git lingo haha

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yeah I use git

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:00 PM

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Basically a contribution into a "repository"

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:00 PM

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Just not used it that much with othyer people

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:00 PM

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Pull request = asking the author to "pull" your changes upstream

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:00 PM

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Ahhh gotcha, it makes sence now since he depends on vault

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:01 PM

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Yeah

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:01 PM

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Hmm

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Could a check not be made just for luckyperms?

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luckperms sorry

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:02 PM

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Well, it's not even needed

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:02 PM

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i keep calling it luckyperms

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:02 PM

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I have a workaround for it

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but it's more the principal of doing it

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just bad design 😛

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:02 PM

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I think its more of a social issue than a technical one

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Ill test it out as a user

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if he sees plebs like me trying to get it to work

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then he might take notice

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I just got in, ill give your new build a bash

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Woo the migrations is going crazy!

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no idea when its finishe dthough

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will it just stop

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or say finihsed?

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I'll just leave it going

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Oh shit it crashed

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well stack thing

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http://pastebin.com/pfVafeHb

Pastebin

[20:07:27] [Craft Scheduler Thread - 20/INFO]: [0;37;22m[21m[...

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:09 PM

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Your GM data is corrupted somewhere

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lol

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I'll just add a fix at my end

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:09 PM

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holy crap it creates a new file for every user and every group in yaml format

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:09 PM

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correct

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:10 PM

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this might take a while with 76k plkayers then

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:10 PM

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why even use flatfile if you have that many users?

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:10 PM

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I should have given it more ram

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:10 PM

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would be much better off in MySQL or something like that

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or even H2

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:10 PM

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^ I agree

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with mysqql

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one of the reasons Im moving from GM

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But I need to see how well it migrates

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by seein gthe faltfile permissions

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so I can edit them and do some changes

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Its 10 million times easier to sort out all your permissions in flatfile and then migrate to mysql

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but I just noticed you have even implemented a way to have user data in mysql and permissions as flatfile

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holy shit...

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did you think of everything?

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WHAT and it works on bungee?

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:12 PM

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spooky

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:13 PM

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well it completed, but it only did 2344 users haha

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:13 PM

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fixing that now

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delete the migrated data & run it again

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:13 PM

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Sick

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can you output the files that dont work

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so i can see any users that cant be migrated

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I think groupmanger must auto purge, because there isnt everyone in this users.yml

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:16 PM

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eh

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or just have data loss issues

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that's just a huge flaw with storing everything in one file

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pex has the same issue

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:17 PM

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I have an offsite backup of this file made every day

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wouldnt be hard to check filesizes

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I hate pex

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ive been so stubbern to move from GM

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I love it

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but its faling to bits and I cant use it cross server

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RIP

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plus I need to get that amount of users in a mysql

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:20 PM

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k

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try with this

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https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/commit/db9d84ed769c914759ca3898d68fa9c43318614e

GitHub

Maybe fix issue with corrupted permission migration · lucko/Luck...

LuckPerms - An advanced permissions implementation for Bukkit/Spigot, BungeeCord and Sponge.

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might fix it, might not

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can't really see what the issue is to be honest.

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:21 PM

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jesus that was fast

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ok thanks

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I just cut out everyhting from the users.yml to just give me the usernames of everyone

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and its 2595/76000 in GM

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so it must trim itself

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Ill do some recon into that later

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ive not had any complaints

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:22 PM

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I guess so then 😛

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:22 PM

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usually if someone looses a fucking shovel Ill get a complaint

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so losing a rank would be all hell let loose

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:23 PM

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haha

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I can relate 😛

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:23 PM

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I have no idea how to build, sorry

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:23 PM

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???

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:23 PM

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from the github

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:23 PM

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oh

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my server does that for you

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https://ci.lucko.me/job/LuckPerms/105/

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:23 PM

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building from source

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oh awesome

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Ah jenkins is a build server

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:24 PM

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Yup

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:24 PM

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so it just sits there looking at changes in the git

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and builds when a comits made?

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:24 PM

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the other way around

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GitHub is configured to tell the Jenkins when a commit is made

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you can do it that way around too though

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:26 PM

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thats awesome

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I tried to lean java when android first came around

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my backgrounds php (dont laugh)

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and just gave up with it within an hour

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Ah nuts, it popped an error again

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:27 PM

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stacktrace please

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:28 PM

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http://pastebin.com/0QxSfw4q

Pastebin

0;30;1m) [[0;32;1mU[0;30;1m] ([0;36;1mnull[0;30;1m) [0;37;2...

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looks like its those /me commands atatched to players

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those are me being denoted from the player

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because they abused it

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so in groupmanager users.yml its saved like this

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0b455e27-3034-4f91-8b5c-05890ae3a0a3:
lastname: Turbofeet
group: Carpenter
subgroups: []
permissions:
- -essentials.me

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I also have a few legacy ones I no longe ruse, like:
1a7dbc65-8b59-4d9b-88ee-878f6e101209:
lastname: Bud_Bundy
group: Sailor
subgroups: []
permissions:
- -dynmap.webchat

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I can trim all these from the users file and try it if you want?

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:30 PM

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No

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that's not the problem

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sec

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:30 PM

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no sweat, ill go wash up I stink

ruby quest Nov 15, 2016, 8:34 PM

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Nice fact to know xD

verbal wigeon Nov 15, 2016, 8:37 PM

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haha

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:39 PM

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lol

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i'm so lost

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can't work out why that exception isn't being caught

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oh

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I'm silly

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@fiery granite does the migration continue after the error gets printed?

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:49 PM

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yeah it does

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:50 PM

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ok

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just ignore the exception then

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:51 PM

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2344 again, I wonder, I still have ancient data from back when it saved the usernames as usernames and not UUID

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 8:51 PM

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possibly

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that data wouldn't be migrated.

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but if they haven't logged in since then

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well

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what can you do

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 8:53 PM

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haha thats it

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I deleted all the usernames that were not uuids

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I get exactly 2344

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users on the dot from GM users.yml

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wicked, thats fine, that means its working to exactly whats in the file

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now I just need to figure out where the hell all the other users have gone to

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alrihgt now im exited, I get to play around with it

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going to play around with bungee, and users in a database

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=d

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thanks @elfin egret fucking king developer

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 9:04 PM

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😃

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 9:04 PM

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Gotta figure out why my GM has dissapeated nearly all my users haha

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 10:54 PM

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grrrr

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http://i.imgur.com/pxspRec.png

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not happy

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 10:54 PM

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better hope it auto saved

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usually does

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itll pop up with a restore or somtehing

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 10:55 PM

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I hope you're right

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i just spent like 1 hour re-designing those charts on my release pages

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i seem to get more compliments about my comparison charts than I do the actual plugin 😄

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i think I need to re-prioritise 😉

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 10:56 PM

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haha

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that chat is what made me look into your plugin

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I actualyl complemented you on it haha

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Thing is, ive never heard o fthe plugin

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 10:57 PM

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Luck's ~~Development~~ Comparison Chart design services

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10/10

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 10:57 PM

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and people google shit like "best spigot permissons plugin"

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so they always end up on plex

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pex*

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 10:57 PM

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No no no

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it's worse than that my friend

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 10:57 PM

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That chat shows instantrly, what features you have

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So the greyed out boxes are to come?

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 10:57 PM

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gray = i can't decide

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but uh

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 10:58 PM

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haha

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 10:58 PM

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the reason I say it's worse than that

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the top google result for "spigot permissions plugin" is this.

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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/lordpermissions-fixed-all-bugs.10930/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

LordPermissions | [Fixed all Bugs]

First Permissions Plugin in 1.10!

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HOW?!?!

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It had 3k downloads when I released LP on Spigot

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 10:58 PM

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buy spigotpermissions.com

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 10:58 PM

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now has 11k

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lolno

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just blows my mind

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why people would download that

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 10:59 PM

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ive never used LordPermissions

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 10:59 PM

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and also blows my mind, why it's number 1

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there's a reason why you've never heard of it

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because it's terrible

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 10:59 PM

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Create unlimited Groups

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why would groups be limited haha

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 10:59 PM

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"[Fixed all bugs]" is a pretty big hint

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don't even need to read the description

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 11:02 PM

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haha

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brutal

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its alright, you dont want those kind of users

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they will send you insane requests

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it just needs to be a strong stable permissions system

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you dont want "can u add a horse friend system"

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 11:03 PM

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great idea

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thx for the tip

fiery granite Nov 15, 2016, 11:03 PM

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haha

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either way man, finding this today had made me happy, My only option from ealier on before today was PEX

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and i was crying at the thought of having to use it

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The fact I can sepreate my damn users into a datbase and have flatfile permissions to edit at will

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damn son

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I havent even tested the damn plugin yet

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just played around with the migration

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anyway I gotta sleep, thanks for the help today

elfin egret Nov 15, 2016, 11:06 PM

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np

sudden sun Nov 15, 2016, 11:41 PM

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❤ luck

trim galleon Nov 16, 2016, 7:26 AM

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Any chance I could post a crashlog here which I doubt has anything to do with LuckPerms on the server but I need help with fixing? Can't figure out what the crashlog is telling me

sudden sun Nov 16, 2016, 12:27 PM

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Pastebin it and share the link

fathom heart Nov 16, 2016, 5:44 PM

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How do you migrate from PermissionsEx to LuckPerms?

rocky bane Nov 16, 2016, 5:44 PM

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have them both installed at same time

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then run /lp migrate

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and it will tell you can you migrate from pex by doing /lp migrate permissionsex

fathom heart Nov 16, 2016, 5:47 PM

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It's does not work for me.

elfin egret Nov 16, 2016, 5:48 PM

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Please use this build: https://ci.lucko.me/job/LuckPerms/105/

fathom heart Nov 16, 2016, 5:48 PM

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Ok, thanks. 😃 ❤

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@elfin egret Thank you so much for making a great permissions plugin!

elfin egret Nov 16, 2016, 5:58 PM

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Np