#dusk-modding | New Blood | Page 49

honest stag Feb 27, 2020, 12:42 AM

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wait is -1 when you dont want the door to close back

woeful yoke Feb 27, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Alright cool.

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Last question: is there a way to make an object destroy itself?

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Like, if i wanted a platform to break when stood on?

honest stag Feb 27, 2020, 12:48 AM

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yep
you can make a func_breakable and connect it to a trigger_once

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it will make a cool sound and particle effects depending the which material you select

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https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Func_breakable

Func breakable

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check out the list of materials and stuff

woeful yoke Feb 27, 2020, 12:53 AM

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oh hell yeah

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It's all coming together now

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Thanks for the help!!

honest stag Feb 27, 2020, 12:54 AM

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np

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 3:39 AM

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hello, how can i get started making model replacements with dusk sdk?

honest stag Feb 27, 2020, 3:45 AM

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not a thing yet sadly

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only textures sounds and maps

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Ah

still raptor Feb 27, 2020, 5:05 AM

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that is coming in an update however

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 5:46 AM

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That's good

honest stag Feb 27, 2020, 7:42 AM

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and how close is the update👀

viscid sinew Feb 27, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Another 100 map releases from the community for next update

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😈

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(imagine if someone did that tho for modding tool updates...)

honest stag Feb 27, 2020, 7:56 AM

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i would just make 100 maps with 1 room

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different texture each time

granite jackal Feb 27, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Big tip, make buttons intentionally shootable. One of my favorite things about the original Dusk maps is figuring out a precise angle and position with which I can hit a button with crossbows. My spatial memory is very solid.

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1957459378

Steam Community :: Screenshot :: E2M5 sequence-break to shoot dista...

Steam Community: DUSK. E2M5 sequence-break to shoot distant switch through 3 walls, requires crossbow. (Refer to ceiling/wall texture; fire at highlighted pixel.)

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Here's an example.

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It skips a good chunk of the map, avoiding a lot of enemies. However the map doesn't give crossbows too much power; you can't shoot the next button required to reach the yellow key.

lapis hare Feb 27, 2020, 8:21 AM

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also makes for some fun unintentional skips like when i found out you can skip the cultist clusterfuck in e3m2 and just get the blue key immediately since the door blocking off that area opens to a button

granite jackal Feb 27, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Ohhh yeah, that one switch just on the other side of the door to skip a respectable chunk of the map.

As far as I can tell, Ice & Fire is also the only map that features a Fast Fire Totem inside a breakable prop! Now let this sink in: it's a powerup... that you can relocate and use later.

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1924401968

Now here's attention to detail. I'd gone on a prop hunt of E1M9, kept them all intact, and stacked them together. (You might need to zoom in.)

Now look at all the props. Now realize: that's a lot of loose objects.

Steam Community :: Screenshot :: Prop Hunt of "E1M9 - Ghost Town"

Steam Community: DUSK. Prop Hunt of "E1M9 - Ghost Town"

lapis hare Feb 27, 2020, 9:31 AM

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ok but

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why did you take the time to stack them

granite jackal Feb 27, 2020, 9:32 AM

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So that we could count them all.

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Because lookit, that's a lot of explosive barrels you can use - and still preserve the Low Tech award.

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Or when designing a map, you can stretch out the momentum of a map by swapping guns for barrels.

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I was taking a crack at reducing my completion times on E1M9 and... I noticed something. If you immediately rush forward, turn the corner and look left, there's teleportation particles. Mobs that get teleported someplace else, it seems.

Looks totally unnecessary to me but, surely that's done for a reason? Maybe those Leathernecks in cramped places couldn't be properly placed where we find them; they might have been teleported in.

So when you all are making your maps, and some mob is giving you trouble with pathfinding or placement... try placing them out in the open, and teleporting them where you want them.

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honest stag Feb 27, 2020, 9:53 AM

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dont see how that would fix anything

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since navmeshes arent changing right

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if a monster cant be spawned somewhere then chances are - you cant teleport it there either

ancient depot Feb 27, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Correct

lavish peak Feb 27, 2020, 3:51 PM

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So I'm using J.A.C.K are there any tutorials for how to get it to work with DUSK?

woeful yoke Feb 27, 2020, 6:06 PM

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What parameters does func_breakable need to have to function with trigger once?

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I'm referencing the target name properly, but they aren't breaking

steep portal Feb 27, 2020, 6:37 PM

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dusk mod idea:

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you have to clean dirt off of plates and cups

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call it

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DISH

modest imp Feb 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Your only objective: use the soap wisely.

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Lightly rub it against dishes to clean them, but don't do it too hard--the uncontrollable power and unquenchable bloodthirst of the soap can end in tragedy.

regal ore Feb 27, 2020, 6:40 PM

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doomguygrin

latent rain Feb 27, 2020, 6:47 PM

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can anyone help me get some textures and sounds working?

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wait no

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im dumb

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i've figured it out....

regal ore Feb 27, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Our job here is done.

woeful yoke Feb 27, 2020, 7:08 PM

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For often than not, sounds just do not play in my map and other custom maps. Is that normal?

latent rain Feb 27, 2020, 7:34 PM

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uh

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i am encountering a glitch

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when i try beat a level it spawns me in the next one

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but the loading screen is still shown

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what's happening?

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i also cant save

honest stag Feb 27, 2020, 8:03 PM

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In the base game or custom maps?

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@woeful yoke
Try adding/removing a health value for the func_breakablr
Also, custom sounds or all sounds?

woeful yoke Feb 27, 2020, 8:10 PM

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All sounds, just custom maps

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Like, flashlight sound only happens half the time. Same with pickups. Some monsters won't play their idle noise.

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The breakables work now for some reason (I just rebuilt them and gave them the same stats as before, so idk what was up with it before), but turns out my trap idea won't work anyway because enemies won't nav through places that had breakables

latent rain Feb 27, 2020, 8:43 PM

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anyone have any idea why i cant save? it's in the base game

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but only happens when im using sdks

remote vector Feb 27, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Is there a way to force enemies to attack a specific target after activating a trigger?

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For example: Make a horde of wendigos attack their jailors after unlocking their cells.

latent rain Feb 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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contained crystals of madness maybe?

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that like have a way of breaking themselves

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but im actually stumped on what my problem is...

remote vector Feb 27, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I'd prefer to work with triggers for that since it's more precise. But I'll keep it in mind as an option, thanks.

latent rain Feb 27, 2020, 8:50 PM

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what im thinking

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more so

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is like a trigger that activates the mechanism to detonate the crystals

remote vector Feb 27, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I think they have to be thrown to break.

latent rain Feb 27, 2020, 8:51 PM

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oh

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but could anyone help my problem?

spiral nexus Feb 27, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I'm afraid you just cannot save in the SDK

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as such thing hasn't been implemented yet

honest stag Feb 27, 2020, 11:00 PM

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yes saving aint a thing

smoky mirage Feb 27, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Hi there, I was just wondering if anyone knows how to run mods on the gog branch of the game.

ivory magnet Feb 27, 2020, 11:52 PM

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https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Dusk:FAQ

Dusk:FAQ

smoky mirage Feb 27, 2020, 11:55 PM

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@ivory magnet Buddy there isn't anything in there about the gog branch

ivory magnet Feb 27, 2020, 11:58 PM

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The two are more or less identical in the way they work

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the only really different thing is how you go about getting the sdk

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if you haven't done so already, go to the manage installation menu and then over to beta channels

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enter password oohagiantbarn

woeful yoke Feb 28, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Hey guys, just uploaded the first version of my map to mod.io!

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https://dusk.mod.io/warehouse-in-the-woods

mod.io

Warehouse in the Woods mod for DUSK

You emerge from an abandoned mining tunnel and happen upon a warehouse in the woods. What could they be hiding in there..?

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I'd love for y'all to test it and give me some feedback. it's my first time mapping for DUSK and my first time using Trenchbroom, so I know I can definitely improve.

viscid sinew Feb 28, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Ooo nice screenshot

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 3:38 AM

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ey looks nice, i'll give it a go

woeful yoke Feb 28, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Appreciated~ I gotta head to bed now, but hmu with c&c and I'll read it in the morning

woeful yoke Feb 28, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I literally woke up and remembered that I didn't add an end-level trigger, AHHHH

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 4:10 AM

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well

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i died like 2-3 times mid level now

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cuz i suck

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overall - daaaaaamn
i cant really give gameplay feedback cuz i dont understand it, but i do really like the look of the map
i'm seriously impressed by how this is your first map and you manage to make it so nice in every way
my first map was like 3 shitty rooms lmao

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i think it could use more ambient lighting, some areas have a bit too much dark-light contrast like the first warehouse area

hasty pollen Feb 28, 2020, 5:09 AM

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@woeful yoke those screens look gorgeous

tulip edge Feb 28, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Does anyone have an fdg that includes dusk monsters?

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 5:48 AM

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there is a custom one, but i think it only works for JACK

tulip edge Feb 28, 2020, 6:36 AM

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gentleman, I present to you exporting from valve hammer D:
https://imgur.com/tMm5vwf

Imgur

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 6:41 AM

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THE PIXELS

regal ore Feb 28, 2020, 7:39 AM

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True 8bit 11025hz experience like it's 1996 all over again: https://i.vgy.me/NtTjw8.mp4

▶ Play video

stone copper Feb 28, 2020, 7:42 AM

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So I asked this a while ago, but what is the ambush tag do?

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 7:47 AM

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pretty sute it's for quake only but
"Ambush" means the monster must actually see the player for itself before it will begin attacking.

If not set as "Ambush" then the monster will begin attacking if it sees another monster has noticed the player.

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i dont think dusk supports this

ancient depot Feb 28, 2020, 8:05 AM

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@tulip edge The map has an incorrect colour palette

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Is that compiled as Q1 or HL BSP?

zinc heron Feb 28, 2020, 10:10 AM

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@woeful yoke Really good level ! How did you manage to change the sky ? I thought it was impossible for now (i'm probably wrong)

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 10:36 AM

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he didnt change it tho?

zinc heron Feb 28, 2020, 11:16 AM

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I think the difference of light between his level and mine gave me this impression haha

woeful yoke Feb 28, 2020, 12:03 PM

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@honest stag Thanks! Admittedly, it's not my first time making maps in general, so I have a bit of a leg-up on level design. I'll go back through and add some lights to some of the darker above-ground areas.

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Do you remember where you died?

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 12:04 PM

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yep
i died at the tower with the scientists cuz i wasnt careful
and died in the room with horrors

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i think i died 1 more time but dont remember where

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i think that's a bit too many horrors

woeful yoke Feb 28, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Huh, didn't expect a death to the scientists. You might be right about the horrors though, I could probably trim a few. They tend to nug each other anyone.

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Did you find all the secrets?

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 12:07 PM

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actually i dont remember
i found at least one

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with the hunting rifle

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also mortar

woeful yoke Feb 28, 2020, 12:13 PM

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The secret areas have:

Hallowed Health
Backpack
Hunting Rifle
Riveter
Mortar
SSG

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 12:13 PM

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oh yeah i found the ssg too

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i THINKi found the riveter?

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didnt really look for secrets i must say

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just stumbled upon them

woeful yoke Feb 28, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Yeah, most of them were softballs. I need to brush up on my secret hiding technique.

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 12:16 PM

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now that i played your map
you are legally obliged to play mine

woeful yoke Feb 28, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Lol, for sure! Drop the link here and I'll play it after my shift today

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 12:19 PM

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an old one, but the feedback on this had been the most useful so far, other maps kinda suck https://dusk.mod.io/the-church

mod.io

The Church mod for DUSK

My third ever map. now reuploaded here.

woeful yoke Feb 28, 2020, 12:29 PM

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@zinc heron Vriska is right btw; I wish I could have changed the skybox. I wanted this to be at twilight. Gotta just work with this one for now.

stone copper Feb 28, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Did you manually do that window?

regal ore Feb 28, 2020, 1:04 PM

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I do believe that's from Quake.

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If you're talking about the texture

rapid crown Feb 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Yeah it's a vanilla Quake texture

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 8:11 PM

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yep that's correct
i did the demon face with brushes tho

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it has horns and shit too

alpine depot Feb 28, 2020, 9:50 PM

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can a multi_manager target another multi_manager?

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 9:51 PM

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dont see why not

alpine depot Feb 28, 2020, 9:52 PM

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some of my logic is just being messy and so im hacking around it using multi_manager targeting another multi_manager

📎 unknown.png

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 9:55 PM

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i can see it having it's uses yeah

alpine depot Feb 28, 2020, 10:00 PM

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yeah ok nevermind my trigger_teleports for certain entities are just not having it today

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trigger_teleports for boneballs and monks work, but the ones for welders and priestesses and horrors dont

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well they all work but i need them to teleport in on a button press, not automatically when inside the trigger volume

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bone balls and monks teleport in when needed, but priestesses and the rest all teleport in on map start

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 10:05 PM

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are you sure the teleport which they are inside of has a targetname?

alpine depot Feb 28, 2020, 10:05 PM

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yeah

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i've made certain of everything

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 10:05 PM

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are you sure it's not copied inside of itself without a targetname?

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like a double brush by accident

alpine depot Feb 28, 2020, 10:06 PM

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yeah i checked

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 10:07 PM

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i can try and make a quick test map for them all

onyx marten Feb 28, 2020, 10:07 PM

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oh man i had huge problems with that on my enclave map, it seems so random

alpine depot Feb 28, 2020, 10:07 PM

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i have a teleport sequence for my other priestesses too

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those work fine

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ill add in some blank teleporters somewhere else and trigger those remotely as well

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and see if that fixes it lol

onyx marten Feb 28, 2020, 10:08 PM

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i didnt figure out a logical reason but by moving em around and trying different shapes and sizes of the trigger_teleport fixed it at some point

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 10:09 PM

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hey may be weird but i'd make sure other brushes dont touch the teleport

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or at least dont cross each other

alpine depot Feb 28, 2020, 10:14 PM

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oh my fucking god

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that fixed it

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HOW

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HOW

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HOW

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good thing this is still alpha

onyx marten Feb 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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that nothing touches it?

alpine depot Feb 28, 2020, 10:16 PM

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oh boy

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now they dont fuckin

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teleport IN

onyx marten Feb 28, 2020, 10:18 PM

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yeah i had the same problem

alpine depot Feb 28, 2020, 10:19 PM

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time to make them BIGGER

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THIS BETTER BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU DUSK

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ey now it works

onyx marten Feb 28, 2020, 10:23 PM

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nice

honest stag Feb 28, 2020, 10:56 PM

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well glad to be of help

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i remembered that because of the old monster closet workaround with the func_door

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where if a door touched a teleport - the monster got gibbed

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for some fucking reason

woeful yoke Feb 28, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Just pushed an update for my map. More light, adjusted the difficulty of traps, added more pickups.

honest stag Feb 29, 2020, 12:12 AM

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👀

woeful yoke Feb 29, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Playing on Cero Miedo is a genuine challenge now, lol

onyx marten Feb 29, 2020, 1:52 AM

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@woeful yoke great map dude, really could be right out of the main game. really like the aesthetics and the lighting but noticed a few things

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some breakables, for example the ruins entry and the wooden walls after the red door have glass set as material
maybe you accidentally put a yellow key instead of a blue one in there? cuz i killed everything but didnt find a blue key / yellow door
you could make a way to go back out of the ruins because it'd be possible to go in there without picking up the key first and ending up trapped (if i didnt miss the key elsewhere)

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but overall really nice, entering the ruins is legitimately creepy and the details in the map are great

honest stag Feb 29, 2020, 1:57 AM

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yo the yellow door is the door to the ruins

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pretty sure

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at least it was when i played it

onyx marten Feb 29, 2020, 2:03 AM

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oh yup it is

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then i just didnt find the blue key

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ok found it lol

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in that case fuck my 2. and 3. complaint

woeful yoke Feb 29, 2020, 3:15 AM

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@onyx marten Thanks for playing! Those are valid criticisms, as they show your perspective as you played through. Being able to find the yellow key before finding the door is definitely not-great, but the original design of that whole building ended up not working, hence the current design

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I couldn't figure out where I was supposed to set material? It didn't populate as one of the key-value pairs

drowsy kiln Feb 29, 2020, 10:59 AM

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how do u actually create levels? I figured out how to import bsp-structured levels. But is there any map editor? Or do I need to download some unity stuff

honest stag Feb 29, 2020, 11:29 AM

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trenchbroom is the recommended one

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it's a quake map thing but it's really good

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and spews out .bsp

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also can use hl1bsp editors like JACK

spiral nexus Feb 29, 2020, 11:35 AM

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anything that creates pre HL2 bsp, so anything like VHE 3.0, JACK, Trenchbroom, Sledge works

supple iris Feb 29, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Hello gents. Is anybody interested in developing a race mode, defrag style?

drowsy kiln Feb 29, 2020, 12:38 PM

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ah, so I gotta use trenchbroom as external editor

ocean cliff Feb 29, 2020, 12:48 PM

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DuskRally incoming

onyx marten Feb 29, 2020, 1:37 PM

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@woeful yoke np my man. Really? Because if I remember correctly you had some wooden planks that broke into wood if damaged. Anyway, are you using the unofficial .fgd func_bread (i think?) made? if not you can just set key "material" value "wood" / "2"

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these are all available materials i think

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ancient depot Feb 29, 2020, 1:39 PM

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There's actually more now

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public enum MaterialType
{
    Glass,
    Wood,
    Metal,
    Flesh,
    CinderBlock,
    CeilingTile,
    Computer,
    UnbreakableGlass,
    Rocks,
    Grass,
    Hay,
    Lazer,
    Scarecrow,
    Teleporter,
}```

onyx marten Feb 29, 2020, 1:46 PM

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ooh nice, is teleporter the teleporter particles?

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does anybody know if it's possible to convert a valve map format into a standard format in tb?

ancient depot Feb 29, 2020, 1:56 PM

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It's the teleporter particles, yeah

gritty forge Feb 29, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Alright,trying to enter my SDK on another acc.

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And it is not workin.

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Wat do,NBC?

candid dew Feb 29, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Hey, I'm still pretty new at using TrenchBroom, but does anyone know if it has some kind of cordon feature similar to Hammer? My map has stopped loading in Dusk (loading screen loop), and it's gonna be a pain to try and isolate the issue.

woeful yoke Feb 29, 2020, 7:07 PM

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@onyx marten yeah. Those planks were prefab objects, not brushes

ocean cliff Feb 29, 2020, 8:50 PM

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i made duskworld server

still raptor Feb 29, 2020, 11:25 PM

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@candid dew send us the map and we can isolate it probably

candid dew Feb 29, 2020, 11:38 PM

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@still raptor Thank you for the offer! I don't want to bother anyone to that degree though, I'm sure it's something silly. I just need to spend a bit of time removing chunks and recompiling.

ancient depot Feb 29, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Don't worry, giving us a sample map would be helpful rather than bothersome if anything

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We can almost immediately identify the issue in most cases if we have a map to reproduce the issue with

coral olive Mar 1, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Hey guys! I recently started working with the DUSK SDK and i've noticed a rather critical bug involving pathfinding. If i could get some help it'd be much appreciated.

Seems to be anytime you have two "floors" stacked on top of one another, and a wall connecting the two floors, that you can utterly mess up the enemies pathfinding by pressing yourself against a wall, or into a corner. Doing so with a floor above you that can be reached causes the enemies to loop trying to get to you from the top floor. Not sure if its a problem with other maps but ive definitely noticed it on my end.

remote vector Mar 1, 2020, 1:17 AM

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I think that's a general pathfinding issue, I've encountered it many times while playtesting in different situations. I think melee enemies are more prone to that than ranged ones. That's why in Dusk you mostly encounter Wendigos and Leathernecks in simple, flat corridors or in wide open spaces.

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Also, maybe your room isn't high enough for the enemy to enter. Obviously there's no real hitboxes yet without a proper .fgd with models so maybe some enemies appear smaller than they actually are. If you've experimented with Quake a bit, you can see that problem happen a lot with Fiends where they are unable to traverse certain areas because they can't jump or get stuck.

coral olive Mar 1, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Ahh, yeah i have a little bit of experience modding with Quake in trenchbroom, but i dont remember any situations where that occurred personally, probably why it stood out so much.
I've tried half a dozen or more 'fixes' like making sure the enemies can enter, putting gaps in the floor to force them to go one way, nothing seems to fix. Oddly enough they have no problem traversing the level, but the second you touch a wall they go to the high ground. And it seems to happen 90% or more for me, just you dont notice it as much with ranged enemies because they tend to stop, fire a shot off, then continue looking for the high ground.

Hopefully theres a fix or workaround, because i really like making high towers and other architecture

half tusk Mar 1, 2020, 6:36 AM

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have you tested this with sloped floors that are so steep as to be almost-but-not-quite 90 degree walls?

still anchor Mar 1, 2020, 6:28 PM

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how do you get to the custom level select?

stone copper Mar 2, 2020, 12:35 PM

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When custom weapons come out, I'm gonna do my best to make a fitting weapon to fill the role of BFG for DUSK

gritty forge Mar 2, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Just have it summon big john

stone copper Mar 2, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Memey, but meh

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Plus that's waaay too powerful

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I was thinking an upgrade to the crossbow that shoots a spread of 5 sawblades that go through everything

modest imp Mar 2, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Wee Johns from Amid Evil, but thrown at the enemy like snarks from Half-Life.

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BIGJOHN

stone copper Mar 2, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Okay that would also be funny

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But I'm not trying to meme

modest imp Mar 2, 2020, 1:33 PM

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i̸'ḿ d͟e̕a̢d fu͜ckin̕g͝ ser͜i͞o͘u̴ś ̸her͢e

covert magnet Mar 2, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I have a mod I want to install with only a sounds folder in it. How do I install it? I've tried pasting it to the root folder, base folder, duskdata folder and mnt/local folder

gritty forge Mar 2, 2020, 2:06 PM

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/mnt/local/thecoolsoundmodIdownloaded/

ornate finch Mar 2, 2020, 8:02 PM

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yo my dudes

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is there any way to make the player start without a flashlight like in some of the levels in dusk?

onyx marten Mar 2, 2020, 8:04 PM

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not atm sadly

ornate finch Mar 2, 2020, 8:07 PM

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oh damn ok i'll try to not drown in my own tears

long flare Mar 3, 2020, 3:31 AM

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hey guys, I came for the dusk wad
dusk_wad3.wad is the right one right?

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wait I found it

honest stag Mar 3, 2020, 3:34 AM

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i suggest getting the dusk_transparent wad

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as well as that one

long flare Mar 3, 2020, 6:13 AM

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ah thanks!

stone copper Mar 3, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Do quakes power ups work in dusk? Cause I wanna throw in a quad damage

iron needle Mar 3, 2020, 4:41 PM

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they're replaced with Dusk powerups

stone copper Mar 3, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Heck

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No quad rampages for me.

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||Also when can we get a setting to keep the tab timer open between resets||

ashen moat Mar 3, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Arcane dimensions in dusk when

tight fractal Mar 3, 2020, 6:34 PM

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technically it already works

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just not very well

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/at all

late forum Mar 3, 2020, 10:41 PM

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so can we script in the dusk sdk yet?

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I'm just waiting to make HUSK(HDusk)

sly flicker Mar 3, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Someone else is already planning on HDusk

gritty forge Mar 3, 2020, 11:54 PM

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I'm still expecting DuskCaster

timber atlas Mar 3, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Is there a way to make a brush snap to the grid in trenchbroom?

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keep getting brushes that only size to fit half a grid space or so and won't line up with everything else :/

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 12:17 AM

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grid snapping is user definable in tb

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 12:17 AM

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wuzzat mean?

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 12:18 AM

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you can pick the number of units the snapping happens at

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 12:18 AM

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where can I set that?

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 12:18 AM

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View>Grid

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📎 unknown.png

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 12:20 AM

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oh, do you mean setting the grid size? Is there no way to just snap a brush that isn't on grid, to the grid? I'm coming from my experience with hammer where you can do that.

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 12:20 AM

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just snap it to the grid

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i guess im confused what the issue is?

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you can hold shift when dragging stuff to snap it

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 12:24 AM

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnnv77gitxasf71/duskbrush.png?dl=0

Dropbox

duskbrush.png

Shared with Dropbox

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That highlighted brush I can't get on grid

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shift doesn't help cause it just moves up a space but still not on grid and editing the vertex does the same

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 12:24 AM

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do you have grid snapping on?

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if you do, you can try lowering the grid snapping size until you get it aligned, then raise it back

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 12:25 AM

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I do have snap on, yeah

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I guess I'll have to do that. I was hoping there would be a quicker way.

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Oh, one more question. Is there a way to line up textures that isn't by hand. So like, select one face and use it's texture placement to continue the same texture on a nearby face.

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 12:29 AM

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theres probably an easy way to do both these things, i just havent put that amount of time into trenchbroom

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maybe someone like @onyx marten would know

onyx marten Mar 4, 2020, 12:32 AM

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um maybe the grid size you want it to snap to is wrong? in the top down view it's like that for me sometimes

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just click edit>snap vertices to grid

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and for texture allignment shift click the brush face with the right texture and then alt click the faces you want alligned

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Perfect

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those are exactly what I was looking for

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thanks

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I need to write all this stuff down

onyx marten Mar 4, 2020, 12:35 AM

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btw @still raptor did you get to fix that water bug?

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np

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i think you find stuff like that in the trenchbroom manual

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Looked around the manual and couldn't find an answer to this so I guess I'll ask here. Does TB have anything like overlays or decals for signs n such?

cloud dune Mar 4, 2020, 7:06 AM

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func_detail

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@timber atlas

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https://quakewiki.org/wiki/func_detail

func detail

ocean cliff Mar 4, 2020, 3:28 PM

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speaking of HDusk, is anyone making concept art already? I could try, if nobody's gonna

stone copper Mar 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I drew a sexy cultist once

ocean cliff Mar 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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show me

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Ok, here's another TB question I can't find an answer for. How do I make a light have a fire model? torch lights are just light but there's no fire

gritty forge Mar 4, 2020, 6:24 PM

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those are actually quake entities so they don't appear in dusk
think theres a fire one for dusk tho let me check

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object_campfire

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object_anomaly_fire

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try one of those

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 6:26 PM

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will do

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 6:48 PM

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neither of those seem to work yet :/

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guess I'll have to wait on that.

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Anyway, I've come across another issue that I'm gonna spam here. I can't get monsters to walk through a doorway after a door is opened. They only go to where the door is and no farther.

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 7:07 PM

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there are some issues with that, nav stuff had to be retooled a bit due to some issues, but itll be worked out

onyx marten Mar 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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@still raptor @ancient depot any idea when that water thing will be fixed?

ancient depot Mar 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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next patch, hopefully

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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i should have some time to sit down and look at stuff like that this week. if you didnt know most of us were busy off doing PAX, which just ended

ancient depot Mar 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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if it's what we think it is, it's like a one line fix

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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^

onyx marten Mar 4, 2020, 7:24 PM

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that'd be great, thanks

gritty forge Mar 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Wow it sure would be nice if there were more people working on the sdk nudge nudge wink wink

ancient depot Mar 4, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Absolutely open to community members helping out later on once the code's been tidied up more

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Just be prepared for my very strict PR review process

fringe nymph Mar 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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ETA for music/makeWAD3?

ancient depot Mar 4, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Music is planned for next patch, MakeWAD3 can happen whenever

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MakeWAD4 is the cool one though (our custom WAD that's backwards compatible with WAD2 & WAD3, but allows the textures to also support full colour when loaded by Dusk)

fringe nymph Mar 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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how is music supposed to work

ancient depot Mar 4, 2020, 8:06 PM

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The music property on worldspawn

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Glad to hear the stuff is being worked on. Guess I'll just have to wait for next patch 😛

coral olive Mar 4, 2020, 10:17 PM

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good to hear that some patches are coming. Will the next patch fix just the door nav problems or monster navigation in general? Because there seems to be some problems when multiple floors are present

small gate Mar 4, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Just be prepared for my very strict PR review process

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strict pr review is just free training

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👌

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 10:51 PM

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theres no issue with multiple floors

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its a navmesh baking setting causing there to be no navmesh extremely close to walls

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it happens on even single floors

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anywhere near a wall, there will not be navigable area

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📎 unknown.png

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this will highlight your issue more clearly

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the blue area is navigable by ai

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as you can see, closer to walls, there is no area they are allowed to navigate to

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so if you stand in those areas, the AI will attempt to seek the closest possible nav point to that

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if a floor above that point happens to be the closest point, thats where they will navigate to

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 11:07 PM

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yeah I've seen that happen with bridges

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I did have a weird issue where enemies would sometimes spawn on top of a brush they where placed under. I put some goats in a box that opens but they would sometimes spawn on the box and not in it.

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 11:09 PM

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a place you can observer this happen easily is actually e1m1 of dusks campaign

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📎 unknown.png

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where normally the leatherneck on the stairs will run down them

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if you stand in the right spot in this tunnel

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he will attempt to reach the spot above the tunnel

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because its the closest point

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so he runs upstairs and opens the door

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 11:10 PM

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is that a displacement brush I see for the ground in that image? TB does displacements?

still raptor Mar 4, 2020, 11:18 PM

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NO

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srry capslock lol

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nah its all done by hand

timber atlas Mar 4, 2020, 11:20 PM

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dang

coral olive Mar 5, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Ahh, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the help, I guess i'll just have to try making the spaces between my floors a bit more distant!

coral olive Mar 5, 2020, 2:18 AM

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is there any way to view/edit navmesh in trenchbroom? couldnt find anything when i looked for it

still raptor Mar 5, 2020, 2:42 AM

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No, sadly, but we'll probably just reduce this problem with either fine tuning on our end, or user definable tuning

cloud dune Mar 5, 2020, 2:45 AM

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will some kind of ambient_generic, or env_soundscape with a trigger type be available at some point or I guess just simply placing sounds for certain areas?

still raptor Mar 5, 2020, 2:45 AM

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yes

cloud dune Mar 5, 2020, 2:45 AM

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bless

half tusk Mar 5, 2020, 4:16 AM

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i am still trying to understand how to properly configure trenchbroom to assign dusk textureres and entity placements

timber atlas Mar 5, 2020, 4:21 AM

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the entities specific to dusk aren't in the browser for trenchbroom

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you gotta place an entity and then write over it with whatever you want it to be for dusk.

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Some entities do have a dusk version for them, like zombies being leathernecks n such.

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for textures, I think you can just click and drag the dusk texture wad into the texture browser window

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all that stuff should be in the pinned messages.

still raptor Mar 5, 2020, 4:36 AM

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You can also create a custom fgd if youd like them to appear

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but we will release an official one eventually

timber atlas Mar 5, 2020, 4:37 AM

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one day

half tusk Mar 5, 2020, 4:58 AM

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I will try to review the pinned messages and see if i can make sense of it further

honest stag Mar 5, 2020, 9:25 AM

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i can try to guide you through dood

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any particular issues like black textures? or do you dont know how to add the in the first place

coral olive Mar 5, 2020, 8:50 PM

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sorry for all the questions but how do you get a jump pad to work? I put the custom object down and it shows up but it doesnt actually have any height. I tried adding custom key values like 'height', 'jumpheight' ect but i cant figure it out.

gritty forge Mar 5, 2020, 8:54 PM

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looks like you should be using "amount"

coral olive Mar 5, 2020, 9:18 PM

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thank you!

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has this weird thing where it shows up black even with a light source directly over it but thats pretty non consequential

timber atlas Mar 5, 2020, 9:21 PM

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object's don't get world light at the moment, only seem to get light from the flash light.

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so anything named object_(whatever) is just black.

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props work though.

coral olive Mar 5, 2020, 9:22 PM

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ahh okay, the only other object i used was object_burn_barrel which doesn't seem to have that issue, but of course it is on fire and has its own light source

timber atlas Mar 5, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Interesting. It might light itself since it creates its own light.

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hopefully that'll all get fixed up soon

gritty forge Mar 5, 2020, 9:26 PM

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they should grab the light value thats on the ground under them

still raptor Mar 5, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Jakob is correct here, objects get light from the ground directly below them, so if you sink them into the ground on accident, youll end up with black objects

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however in the upcoming patch theres a new light proxy system that allows you to define custom points to sample light from

coral olive Mar 5, 2020, 10:17 PM

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interesting. Its pretty hard to get objects to be exactly where they should be since the custom objects dont exactly line up with their proper shapes

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at least as far as trenchbroom is concerned

alpine depot Mar 6, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Since music is being added in the next patch- planned at least- is it just going to be in-game Dusk music, or is custom music going to be supported as well?

still raptor Mar 6, 2020, 2:52 AM

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likely custom

onyx marten Mar 6, 2020, 6:31 PM

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is it possible to have a brush emit light?

still raptor Mar 6, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Yes

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Well

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Roughly

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Check out surface lights on the ericw tools page

onyx marten Mar 6, 2020, 6:49 PM

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aight thanks

onyx marten Mar 6, 2020, 7:04 PM

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oh man thats really helpful

still raptor Mar 6, 2020, 7:24 PM

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yeah, its not technically the brush lighting up

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but its close enough

onyx marten Mar 6, 2020, 7:48 PM

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yes it is, plus it's a big time save

candid dew Mar 7, 2020, 11:12 AM

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Has anyone managed to get toggle doors to work? The spawnflag doesn't seem to do anything i.e. the door always resets after the wait duration

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If I set wait to -1 the door becomes unclosable

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:25 AM

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can i see the properties list for your door?

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pretty sure my doors work like toggle all the time

candid dew Mar 7, 2020, 11:31 AM

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https://imgur.com/ua3nIKp.png

Imgur

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:31 AM

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your door is triggered by a button and you want that button to toggle the door?

candid dew Mar 7, 2020, 11:32 AM

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yeah im trying to have one button trigger multiple doors, so I think i have to chain them

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but the issue is that the toggling doesn't seem to work even in the basic case

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:32 AM

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ah you can use an entity called multi_manager for that

candid dew Mar 7, 2020, 11:32 AM

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that sounds like exactly what I need

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:33 AM

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you can set different delays for each entity fire as well

ancient depot Mar 7, 2020, 11:33 AM

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give all of the doors the same targetname

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and then put that in the button's target

candid dew Mar 7, 2020, 11:33 AM

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I thought of that @ancient depot , unfortunately my case is more complex - multiple buttons and doors interacting

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:33 AM

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unless you want them to open with different delays i guess

ancient depot Mar 7, 2020, 11:33 AM

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if you want them to have different names, then yeah, you'll want something like multi_manager

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:34 AM

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lemme find the page for multi_manager

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https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Multi_manager

Multi manager

candid dew Mar 7, 2020, 11:34 AM

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tried creating a basic door w/out a targetname, with spawnflags 32 and it still closes itself though

ancient depot Mar 7, 2020, 11:35 AM

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There's also the valve page https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Multi_manager_(GoldSource_Engine)

Multi manager (GoldSource Engine)

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:35 AM

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also uh

candid dew Mar 7, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Thanks!

ancient depot Mar 7, 2020, 11:35 AM

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I forget if we disabled the 16-entity limit in our implementation yet

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:35 AM

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your spawnflag is 33

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not 32

ancient depot Mar 7, 2020, 11:35 AM

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that reminds me

candid dew Mar 7, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Yes sorry, I mean I just created a new door to test there now

ancient depot Mar 7, 2020, 11:35 AM

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I need to decide on final names for the flags, because in Dusk you don't have to use numbers for those

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you can use a comma-separated list of flag names

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eg

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StartsOpen, DontLink, GoldKeyRequired

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:37 AM

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that's pretty nice, but numbers do still work right?

ancient depot Mar 7, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Yeah, we have to support numbers for Quake/HL compat

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:37 AM

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it's just easier for me to use the checkbox things rather than type them

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i thought everyone used it

ancient depot Mar 7, 2020, 11:38 AM

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some people might be using an fgd that lacks the information for them I guess

honest stag Mar 7, 2020, 11:38 AM

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makes sense

pale lava Mar 8, 2020, 1:12 AM

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How would one go about making a see through grate like a fence?

timber atlas Mar 8, 2020, 1:16 AM

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use a transparent texture?

tight pawn Mar 8, 2020, 1:19 AM

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@pale lava all transparent textures start with { just find something like {fence and put that on a mesh

pale lava Mar 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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How would you do that in trenchbroom? I have the dusk.wad and i didn't see any textures that start with a {

tight pawn Mar 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Oh I think you are the first wad that didnt include transparent textures

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let me see if I can find the one that has those textures real quick

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@pale lava here it is: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586508960128040961/678430095622275092/dusk_transparent.wad

pale lava Mar 8, 2020, 1:27 AM

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ohhhh

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thanks!

tight pawn Mar 8, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Just drag n drop that intro trenchboom and you should get the transparent textures now

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no problem my friend

pale lava Mar 8, 2020, 2:01 AM

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one more question....do skip textures work

tight pawn Mar 8, 2020, 2:06 AM

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What are skip textures?

deft frigate Mar 8, 2020, 2:10 AM

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skip is a special texture that doesnt actually compile into the final map which can be pretty useful to rotating large sections of asymmetrical geo and the like

tight pawn Mar 8, 2020, 2:17 AM

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oh neat

honest stag Mar 8, 2020, 2:24 AM

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i dont think they do

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oh wait actually why wouldnt they

spiral nexus Mar 8, 2020, 8:36 AM

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I presume they don't because we don't have vis yet

cosmic willow Mar 8, 2020, 2:12 PM

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I am trying to make a mesh fence with the fence texture but it seems to break geometry

honest stag Mar 8, 2020, 2:16 PM

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yo i have a pre built fence from brushes
You want it? It's a separate .map file but you know, copy pasting structures is a thing

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You can shoot through it as a nice bonus - and enemies detect you

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That can be removed with an invisible brush ofc

true thorn Mar 8, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Yo I'll totally take that fence - dm me

alpine depot Mar 8, 2020, 8:49 PM

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how does my "questionable dance club" look?

📎 unknown.png

tepid python Mar 8, 2020, 8:56 PM

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very questionable

gritty forge Mar 8, 2020, 9:03 PM

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needs lewder wall textures

verbal peak Mar 8, 2020, 9:04 PM

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needs Duke nukem stripers

hard pollen Mar 8, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Just like really jpeged Duke Nukem Strippers.

worn atlas Mar 8, 2020, 10:03 PM

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do we guys have any mods released already

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if so, where can i check them

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oh, nvm

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found it

honest stag Mar 8, 2020, 11:16 PM

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here's the fence

📎 fence.map

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it's kinda old but y'know it works

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@true thorn

alpine depot Mar 8, 2020, 11:28 PM

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duke nukem strippers, got it

true thorn Mar 9, 2020, 1:05 AM

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thank you 🙂

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I'm wondering if there are any admins here who have a plug into what the status of Linux development is. I'm an experience sysadmin with a background in OpenGL and I'd love to contribute - if I can - to the project (espcially in the case of getting DuskSDK over to us *nix folks)

wooden pier Mar 9, 2020, 7:10 PM

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For some reason I don't understand, it's impossible to change the inscriptions now. https://imgur.com/d7OfGPd

Imgur

timber atlas Mar 9, 2020, 7:13 PM

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a wise choice indeed

alpine depot Mar 9, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I'm gonna build an ice cream parlor now and add that, thank you for this beautiful work of art

wooden pier Mar 9, 2020, 8:00 PM

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@alpine depot Will there be pistachio? Can't live without it.

alpine depot Mar 9, 2020, 9:07 PM

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ew gross

wooden pier Mar 9, 2020, 9:07 PM

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haha

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I'll make a release if someone tells me why it doesn't work.

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I mean, it's just a texture.

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Why

half tusk Mar 11, 2020, 2:52 AM

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have you checked if it needs an associated lightmap or normals map?

wooden pier Mar 11, 2020, 10:58 AM

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How can I do that?

alpine depot Mar 11, 2020, 11:07 AM

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lol whut normals, I dont think the textures have normal mapping

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I've tried replacing the graffiti too and it didn't work either, I guess it's just not working for certain textures right now

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same with skyboxes

crystal lily Mar 12, 2020, 6:33 AM

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What is this

📎 DUSKwikiwhat.png

tall zenith Mar 12, 2020, 6:38 AM

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good question

sly flicker Mar 12, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Word salad

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That's what this is

tall zenith Mar 12, 2020, 6:39 AM

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seems like it

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wiki vandalism might be

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looking into it

sly flicker Mar 12, 2020, 6:40 AM

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I can vaguely make out some kind of rant or manifesto about how to get european chicks in the dating scene?

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But it feels like it was in fact written by someone from Europe whose second language is English and it's very very very broken

tall zenith Mar 12, 2020, 6:41 AM

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it's being removed anyway

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likely they just want to bait people into clicking that link at the bottom

sly flicker Mar 12, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Probably

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Nopey nopey on that

tall zenith Mar 12, 2020, 6:42 AM

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there's more than one of these

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we're working on it

honest stag Mar 12, 2020, 8:49 AM

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oh man was it a mistake to let basically anyone edit this stuff and add pages

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i knew someone would screw with people like that

woeful yoke Mar 12, 2020, 3:03 PM

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@honest stag Oh hey, I finally got around to taking your advice on the materials. Updated my map to have proper noises now. Also doors move up and down like garage doors typically do instead of left to right.

gritty forge Mar 12, 2020, 4:31 PM

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how do i install this?
https://dusk.mod.io/weapons-sfx-reimagined

mod.io

Weapons SFX Reimagined mod for DUSK

This mod replaces weapons sounds with more powerful and realistic ones created from scratch.

wooden pier Mar 12, 2020, 4:36 PM

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@gritty forge Unpack the file and throw the folder into Dusk>SDK>mnt>local>dusk

gritty forge Mar 12, 2020, 4:36 PM

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got it danke

wooden pier Mar 12, 2020, 4:38 PM

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You have an SDK installed?

gritty forge Mar 12, 2020, 4:38 PM

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uhhh

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idk

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theres no sdk folder so i guess not

wooden pier Mar 12, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Are you through Steam?

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Or GOG

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If Steam, go through the game properties in beta versions and select SDK.

gritty forge Mar 12, 2020, 4:48 PM

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goggy

wooden pier Mar 12, 2020, 4:50 PM

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maybe this will help https://www.gog.com/forum/dusk/dusk_sdk_and_gog_galaxy

DUSK SDK and GOG Galaxy! , page 1 - Forum - GOG.com

Download the best games on Windows & Mac. A vast selection of titles, DRM-free, with free goodies, customer love, and one fair price for all regions.

gritty forge Mar 12, 2020, 4:55 PM

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mmmm ok

nova valve Mar 12, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Hey has anyone been able to add custom enemies/weapons with models to dusk yet? If so what do you use to model them?

half tusk Mar 12, 2020, 5:15 PM

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i think its still in development and not fully implemented in the sdk

pearl fox Mar 12, 2020, 7:00 PM

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You guys got anything to tease you're working on for the next update?

regal ore Mar 12, 2020, 8:01 PM

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@gritty forge Unpack the file and throw the folder into Dusk>SDK>mnt>local>dusk
@wooden pier close enough, but this will override original game files. I made this mod the correct way, so @gritty forge would need to simply extract the folder to 'Dusk/SDK/mnt/local' so it will look like 'Dusk/SDK/mnt/local/Weapons SFX Reimagined'. Then in game you go to Modding > Weapons SFX Reimagined Beta and tick that.

gritty forge Mar 12, 2020, 8:02 PM

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oooo ok

terse salmon Mar 12, 2020, 9:15 PM

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is it possible to change enemy sounds?

gritty forge Mar 12, 2020, 9:15 PM

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yes

terse salmon Mar 12, 2020, 9:16 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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(both formats for testing)

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doesnt seem to change, hmm

gritty forge Mar 12, 2020, 9:17 PM

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it has to have the same extension as the original

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can be a different format tho :v)

terse salmon Mar 12, 2020, 9:18 PM

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the original is...

📎 unknown.png

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seems to be the right format?

📎 unknown.png

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okay, so leatherneck alert.flac doesnt work, but die.flac does

terse salmon Mar 12, 2020, 10:41 PM

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actually, i think all the alert replacements dont work yet?

ancient depot Mar 12, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Yeah some sounds don't get replaced currently, because they were set up differently in the code

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A lot of the replacement stuff was automated, so things like that got missed

alpine depot Mar 14, 2020, 5:05 AM

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can someone help me make a transparent wad? wally is being stupid and decided not to do it

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i have the images and everything, i can just give those out

still raptor Mar 14, 2020, 5:36 AM

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What issue are you having with Wally?

alpine depot Mar 14, 2020, 5:37 AM

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i'm not really sure, im putting the transparent texture into wally and using the appropriate wildcard "{" before the name, but the transparent stuff shows up as black rather than transparent

gritty forge Mar 14, 2020, 7:12 PM

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https://twitter.com/BafuBal/status/1238905252583260161

Benoit Stordeur (@BafuBal)

Discussing how to make angled steps in #Quake.
Rotate tool is never the answer (too much off-grid stuff). By combining all of #Trenchbroom's features you can get great results really fast, and no need to mess with any texture alignement thanks to UV lock!
#screenshotsaturday ...

▶ Play video

sour mural Mar 14, 2020, 8:14 PM

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im having a strange issue with the SDK. I created a small sound replacement mod, but now whenever i finish a level the game gets stuck in the loading screen while telling me the level is starting?

gritty forge Mar 14, 2020, 8:44 PM

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you playing the campaign?

sour mural Mar 14, 2020, 8:51 PM

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yeah

terse salmon Mar 14, 2020, 9:31 PM

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https://dusk.mod.io/dumask

mod.io

DUmaSK mod for DUSK

DUSK but every character is The Mask™. Ipkiss' demon has planted his sward veneer on all of the (evil) residents of Dusk! The emerald veiled villainous devilkin also kitted them out in his iconic canary zoot suit, if you missed him the first time.

last talon Mar 14, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Somebody Stop Him

tulip edge Mar 14, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Your modders were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. -some dinosaur lawyer

thorn trench Mar 14, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Dinosaur lawyer

tulip edge Mar 14, 2020, 9:38 PM

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The blood sucking lawyer!

lofty condor Mar 16, 2020, 11:15 PM

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do you guys have any mods that you recommend?

lofty grotto Mar 17, 2020, 12:02 AM

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The reimagined gun sfx makes the guns sound a bit beefer plus the explosions for the mortar and riveter sound better too

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Imo at least

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I would love it if someone swapped the gun models with some of the maximum action weapons

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But I don’t think the sdk allows that yet

gritty forge Mar 17, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Are there any skeleton mods for duskworld yet?

timber atlas Mar 17, 2020, 11:41 PM

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any word on that sdk update?

ancient depot Mar 17, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Planning to get it out tomorrow-ish

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Main thing for the update is custom music

timber atlas Mar 17, 2020, 11:42 PM

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sweet. Hope it has fixed door ai too

ancient depot Mar 17, 2020, 11:43 PM

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That won't be in, that's a bit of a complex fix

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An older version of the SDK supported that, but it brought major performance issues

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Like, constant hitching

timber atlas Mar 17, 2020, 11:45 PM

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I'm just talking about monsters being able to walk through open doors.

ancient depot Mar 17, 2020, 11:45 PM

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That's what I mean yeah

timber atlas Mar 17, 2020, 11:45 PM

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that caused performance issues o.O

ancient depot Mar 17, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Yeah, because Dusk uses a navmesh for AI pathing

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And it has to be re-generated when a door moves

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Which is CPU-intensive

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That's the reason doors only move up and down in the campaign

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There are a few fixes I have in mind that should work, but there's other stuff that needs to be finished before I can do that

timber atlas Mar 17, 2020, 11:47 PM

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hmm, hopefully you guys can figure something out for that. Not being able to have monsters move from one room to the next as it opens has been annoying.

ancient depot Mar 17, 2020, 11:48 PM

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You can try setting up the map so your doors are open by default, and then setting the "starts open" flag on them

timber atlas Mar 17, 2020, 11:48 PM

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That's an idea

ancient depot Mar 17, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Then the navmesh would bake with them open

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although

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they'd walk through the doors when they're closed that way

timber atlas Mar 17, 2020, 11:49 PM

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well that's not good either

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guess I'll just have to map around it somehow

ancient depot Mar 17, 2020, 11:49 PM

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either approach would work properly once we have a door fix in anyway

timber atlas Mar 17, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I don't remember, does dusk have monsters that can teleport in?

ancient depot Mar 17, 2020, 11:50 PM

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No enemies that use teleporting as an ability, but you can use teleporters with them

timber atlas Mar 17, 2020, 11:51 PM

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just trying to think how to repopulate a room you've already cleared out till the doors get fixed.

ancient depot Mar 17, 2020, 11:52 PM

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teleporters would work then yeah

alpine depot Mar 17, 2020, 11:54 PM

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man i cant wait to implement some BOOMER TUNES in my maps

honest stag Mar 18, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Oh dang tomorrow?

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Awesome

timber atlas Mar 18, 2020, 3:04 AM

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hmm, can't seem to get trigger teleport to work :/

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is it not part of the sdk yet?

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wait...maybe I just did it wrong

timber atlas Mar 18, 2020, 3:48 AM

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well now they teleport but just die in a shower of gibs lol

ancient depot Mar 18, 2020, 6:38 AM

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New patch should be incoming today

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I forgot most of what we've done since the last patch so I'll need to look at git logs lmao, but music is one of the things coming

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Music for custom maps that is, replacing campaign music is another story for now

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To set music, give the music property on worldspawn a value, such as music/e3m6_action.ogg

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The song will be looped for the duration of the level

quiet harness Mar 18, 2020, 6:41 AM

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i'm curious as to how this will be used but also very afraid

versed inlet Mar 18, 2020, 7:03 AM

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i can already hear the bass boosted thomas the dank engine opening

honest stag Mar 18, 2020, 7:40 AM

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TODAY

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NICE

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now that i have a buncha free time - it's time to work on my cathedral thing map

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ancient depot Mar 18, 2020, 7:55 AM

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gotta get something out so we have an excuse to do nothing for a week to play Doom Eternal picardy

honest stag Mar 18, 2020, 7:56 AM

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lmao and then alyx for people who are lucky enough to have vr i guess

gritty forge Mar 18, 2020, 10:14 AM

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So, what do you need to start making dusk mods?

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Programs, I mean

honest stag Mar 18, 2020, 10:14 AM

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it depends on what kind of mod do you want to make

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if you want maps - a map making tool like Trenchbroom
to replace sounds or textures - you dont need anything

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and we dont have other mod type support

small gate Mar 18, 2020, 10:15 AM

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paint.net/gimp for textures

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audacity and maybe a tracker for some music for sfx

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trenchboom or jack for maps

gritty forge Mar 18, 2020, 10:16 AM

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Can you make custom models with blender?

honest stag Mar 18, 2020, 10:16 AM

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not yet

small gate Mar 18, 2020, 10:16 AM

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in the future

gritty forge Mar 18, 2020, 10:16 AM

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Also: can you make episodes/campaigns somehow or just single maps?

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I was born in a very rust well-like region and I would love to make a dusk episode located there

honest stag Mar 18, 2020, 10:18 AM

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you can connect maps yea

gritty forge Mar 18, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Rust belt*

sturdy slate Mar 18, 2020, 8:45 PM

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How would I theoretically add a bloodstain to a wall/floor in trenchbroom? I'm mostly figuring this program out as I go, but I don't even know how I'd look something like this up

tepid python Mar 18, 2020, 9:19 PM

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you put gridsize to the lowest and then make a outline for wherever you want to put it

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or make a new texture with the bloodstain on it I guess

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 12:30 AM

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any word on that update?

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 12:31 AM

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give me update or give me deth

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:(

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:53 AM

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the build was made last night, just gotta make sure it doesn't explode

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then we can move it over to public

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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TIL: new builds of the dusk sdk are volatile by nature and can explode at any time for no reason

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amazing fact

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tell me more

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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It's true

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Gotta be careful that we don't cause a nuclear disaster

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Duskout 76 when

last talon Mar 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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after dave gets those shin extensions

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Supported music audio formats are the same as regular sound formats, btw

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In case anyone was expecting it to be different

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.ogg, .flac and .wav

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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are we able to trigger other music through triggers and whatnot?

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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sick
cant wait honestly

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Not yet, that's likely something we'll save for scripting

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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dang

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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I could maybe add a trigger_changemusic or something for next patch

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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my elevator scene needs tension ascension :(

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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but I'd prefer it for when we have scripting and can have trigger_script

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 1:12 AM

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dusk sdk gonna cause a resonance cascade

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any music is better than no music. Dusk's tracks are great and makes for something nice to listen to when testing.

tepid python Mar 19, 2020, 1:26 AM

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My map already has custom music though

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 1:48 AM

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may or may not be in the patch

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.lit support confirmed working

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now you can do coloured lighting to your heart's content

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 1:57 AM

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YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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FUCKING BRUHHHHHHHHHHHH

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this is amazing

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proper orange lava lightsssss

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:00 AM

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We've got external .ent files now too, so you can override the entities in a BSP

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Meaning you can add music to existing maps

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:03 AM

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are we going to have other light styles anytime soon, or is that further down the road?

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:03 AM

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light styles are a bit more complex, they'll be coming with my BSP overhaul later on

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which'll bring VIS, light styles, proper AI navigation, etc

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:03 AM

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ooh i cant wait for that

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:04 AM

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the big one there imo is having enemies able to actually walk through goddamn doors lol

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:04 AM

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what's VIS again? i havent touched anything similar to goldsrc or the quake engine before starting dusk modding so im still learning the lingo

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:04 AM

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occlusion culling, basicallly

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performance thing

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:05 AM

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oh right

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that would help so much with my maps

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would let me make them even bigger too

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Yeah, there's a lot of room for optimization at the moment

mystic swallow Mar 19, 2020, 2:06 AM

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.lit working is a big hell yes thank you for hard work

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:06 AM

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🙏

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:06 AM

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doing god's work

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gives me an excuse to overhaul that godforsaken lift sequence in my first map

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if only clip worked proper

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:08 AM

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That'll be fixed with the BSP overhaul too

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:08 AM

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what else is in this update besides magical .lit support and the legendary music addition?

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:09 AM

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external .ent support and a few other things I've completely forgotten about and need to check git for

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I think there was a map crash fix too?

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:09 AM

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when you're on the sdk grind so hard that you forgot what you did

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when custom scripting happens i really feel like making a fallout-style rpg out of dusk

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dusk dude heads on over to vegas but a mailman clonks him on the head for no reason and oh god jakob's back for round two, better hope the speech check succeeds

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Support for .lit files
Support for .ent files
Support for custom music
Now running on Unity 2020.1.0b1
func_breakable now correctly defaults to 1hp
Miscellaneous object_teleporter fixes
Broken entities will no longer prevent map loads
"parentname" entity property support for parent/child relationships
Added "lightproxy" property to entities (allows you to transfer lighting from one entity to another)
Rendering fixes for transparent brushes
Rotating objects should no longer flicker

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I think that's what's in so far?

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:16 AM

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wait rotating objects is already a thing?

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:16 AM

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pickups

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:16 AM

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oh

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lol

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:16 AM

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lmao

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 2:17 AM

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i was getting excited for a second there

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 2:29 AM

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oh shitttt .lit time

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that's actually poggers

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 3:31 AM

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this is kinda lookin alright so far if you ask me

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lapis hare Mar 19, 2020, 3:33 AM

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soulforge but it's murder time

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 3:33 AM

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this is very WIP, it's supposed to look more like uhhh this

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not an exact copy, but an inspiration

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 3:40 AM

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will this also change func_breakable from just being glass or is there a way to set what it breaks to?

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 3:40 AM

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you already can change the material

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 3:41 AM

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how do?

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 3:42 AM

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add a property called "material" and then type in one of those as the value

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like the word

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also uhhh

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there are people adding weird shit pages to new blood wiki again

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 3:43 AM

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is there a wiki that covers all this stuff so I don't constantly have to bother people here by asking questions? 😛

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 3:43 AM

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https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Main_Page

Main Page

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 3:44 AM

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nice, gonna favorite that

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this wiki is...sparce

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 3:50 AM

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yeah it's still being worked on

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kinda

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everything around the sdk is still work in progress as you can see

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 3:50 AM

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of course

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hopefully someone will be able to update it more

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 3:51 AM

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but in general

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you use trenchbroom right?

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or some other tool

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 3:52 AM

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yeah I've been learning TB

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 3:53 AM

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that means most quake tutorials/tips can help you out, there isnt much stuff that's only dusk specific

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 3:53 AM

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yeah I've been using quake tutorials on youtube for the most part. Only ask here things I can't find elsewhere

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 3:54 AM

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you can find a bit from half-life mapping tutorials as well
when it comes to features that are in HL but not in quake

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like func_breakable

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 3:55 AM

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I'm familiar with source but not goldsource so it can be a bit confusing when TB doesn't have any properties for something by default

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Oh that reminds me. Dusk has flip switches opposed to buttons. Is that a setting on the button or something else that may or may not be in the sdk yet?

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 4:02 AM

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you can do a magic trick by copying the switch brush, giving it the flipped switch texture and pushing it 0.125 units inside
then direct the button to move into the other brush

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bam, now it looks like the switch flipped

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 4:02 AM

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is that really how it works?

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 4:02 AM

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dont know of a way to do it otherwise

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dont think there is yet

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 4:03 AM

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ight

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 5:13 AM

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yeah the .lit support will be nice

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people can actually use colored lighting

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 6:38 AM

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do quick saves not work for the sdk?

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Any saves dont work i think

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Saving in general is disabled because it wouldn't work with custom maps yet

hard pollen Mar 19, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Hey Zombie, do you prefer vertex or skeletal animations?

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Skeletal

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Or rather, I prefer a combination

hard pollen Mar 19, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Yeah

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 7:47 AM

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You can actually do vertex animation with a skeleton

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and the skeleton allows you to morph the frames

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nobody does that though even though it's cool :(

hard pollen Mar 19, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Yep.

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IDK I was in the mood to ask a dumb question.

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 7:47 AM

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lmao

hard pollen Mar 19, 2020, 7:48 AM

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If I could only use one for a project though I'd probably go with Skeletal.

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But making a game with vertex anims only seems like fun.

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I know quite a few games use vertex anims on instanced static meshes for swarms and things.

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 8:34 AM

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couldn't you like make a skeleton animation in blender and then export it as a vertex one

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 8:57 AM

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yup

onyx marten Mar 19, 2020, 9:00 AM

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will that water fix be in the update?

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 9:00 AM

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yes, but I don't know if it'll actually fix the issues people were having

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I applied the fix but haven't tested any problem cases

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 9:00 AM

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also i wanted to ask
is it a difficult task to add custom skybox support? or is it just on low priority for now

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 9:01 AM

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it's somewhat difficult, gonna be looking at that after the BSP overhaul

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 9:01 AM

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oh man that's gonna be a while away
oh well, gotta be patient

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 9:01 AM

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I'll be continuing work on that after I'm done playing Eternal

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 9:02 AM

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lmao cant blame you

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 9:02 AM

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so yeah a while away picardy

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 9:03 AM

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So update today

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?

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 9:04 AM

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either today or tomorrow

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 9:06 AM

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mang tomorrow is doom eternal

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

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mang

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 9:10 AM

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mang

ivory magnet Mar 19, 2020, 9:13 AM

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manga

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Ah yes the dusk manga

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 9:48 AM

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we might put the update out early for discord folks

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Ah yes that's me

ivory magnet Mar 19, 2020, 9:51 AM

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ah yes that's you

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Sdk update is live

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Enjoy the music, .ENT, and .lit

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 1:38 PM

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yeeAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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hell fuckin yea

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do we just drop the .lit alongside the bsp?

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yep

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oh man this looks so much better now

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i gotta update my maps with this

stone copper Mar 19, 2020, 1:43 PM

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i wish i knew how it worked

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 1:43 PM

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the .lit?

stone copper Mar 19, 2020, 1:43 PM

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all of it

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 1:44 PM

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finally

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yesssssssssssssssssssssss

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wish i could set a moody sunset skybox tho

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I LOVE IT

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gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 1:48 PM

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time to hit @ancient depot with the "Patch notes when"

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 1:48 PM

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you think you can just go play doom eternal

tall zenith Mar 19, 2020, 1:48 PM

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neato vriska

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I posted them earlier in here

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 1:49 PM

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thank

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 1:51 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/240195284695646209/586508960128040961/690020320467222544

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there it is

regal ore Mar 19, 2020, 1:51 PM

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And they fixed the audio cutoff too! Now my precious gunshots go boom with a proper punch! https://i.vgy.me/jcCQW1.mp4

▶ Play video

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 1:52 PM

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we... we did?

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I mean, cough y-yeah

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that's totally an intentional fix

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 1:52 PM

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lmao

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 1:52 PM

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lmao x2

regal ore Mar 19, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Gamedev level up

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 1:52 PM

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if anything that might mean it was a Unity bug

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the latest patch is on a newer version

regal ore Mar 19, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Well, one less problem to worry about then

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 1:54 PM

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@regal ore sounds neat

regal ore Mar 19, 2020, 1:55 PM

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https://dusk.mod.io/weapons-sfx-reimagined if you're interested. I just have to make a couple of tweaks to call it a proper release. Just gotta find time for that.

mod.io

Weapons SFX Reimagined mod for DUSK

This mod replaces weapons sounds with more powerful and realistic ones created from scratch.

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 1:56 PM

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i'll try it

honest stag Mar 19, 2020, 1:56 PM

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it's actually pretty sick

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well i'm off to bed
i hope to see some maps updated with boomer tunes when i wake up

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 2:02 PM

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I really want to say that i'm hopefully going to finish my level but usually it ends up with month breaks from SDK

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BIGJOHN

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So, how to actually turn on those boomer tunes?

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 2:08 PM

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add music to worldspawn

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and then give it a path to the song you want to use

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 2:08 PM

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thanks

narrow matrix Mar 19, 2020, 2:08 PM

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How does sound alerting enemies work in Dusk? Because I had an idea for a map set on a submarine but I realized that one gunshot could potentially alert every enemy on the map.

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@still raptor how the path should look like? It begins with local\modname\music... or what?

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 2:15 PM

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/music/musicfile.ogg

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or rather, i dont think you need the first /

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@narrow matrix i think someone said that all nearby enemies start noticing you after first shot

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i'll try both

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thanks

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 2:16 PM

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as a point of advice

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its worth generating a .ent file for your map

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so you can edit things without recompiling the entire map

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saves a lot of time

narrow matrix Mar 19, 2020, 2:17 PM

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@long anchor Thanks, I'll do some testing to see how far it extends in that case

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 2:17 PM

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BigThink

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 2:17 PM

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for example

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adding music to the lobby of half life

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"wad" "\quiver\valve\halflife.wad;\quiver\valve\decals.wad;\quiver\valve\xeno.wad;\quiver\valve\sample.wad"
"chaptertitle" "C0A1TITLE"
"message" "Anomalous Materials"
"music" "music/fuckyou.flac"
"classname" "worldspawn"
}```

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 2:17 PM

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"music/fuckyou.flac"

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 2:17 PM

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thats just in the .ent file

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 2:17 PM

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BIGJOHN

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 2:18 PM

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so i dont have to recompile the original half life map, but still add my own music to it

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 2:18 PM

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i see

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 2:18 PM

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you can use this to edit all of your ents, so this will save TONS of troubleshooting time

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ericw tools comes with a utility for generating .ent files

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 2:19 PM

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thanks 500 very cool

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 2:19 PM

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bsputil.exe --export mapname.bsp

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i believe

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 2:23 PM

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hell yeah, music works

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Yeah I can't wait for all the meme maps with music

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 2:42 PM

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oh and dont forget to use the light proxy stuff

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you can finally bury things in the ground and not have them be pitch black

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 2:44 PM

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can you use a info_null for that

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 2:51 PM

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oh and dont forget to use the light proxy stuff
what do you mean

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 2:51 PM

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yeah i think you can use any entity

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the big brainers out there will bake an off-map area with cool lighting and then move a light proxy around to pick up that data and create cool lighting effects

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 3:00 PM

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is it possible to change music mid-level or it's one of the soon things

still raptor Mar 19, 2020, 3:05 PM

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soontm

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just basic music atm

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 3:05 PM

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ok

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 3:08 PM

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@gritty forge any entity should be usable as a light proxy

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 3:21 PM

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still can't break breakables with mortar\riveter\weldboy death explosion

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literally unplayable, 0\10, fix when Shotty

unique ocean Mar 19, 2020, 3:29 PM

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what updated

proper vessel Mar 19, 2020, 3:29 PM

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BIGJOHN

unique ocean Mar 19, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Leatherneck

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oh lmao my map broke

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 3:34 PM

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oh no

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what happened?

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 3:36 PM

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how the fuck is zombie even replying rn

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 3:36 PM

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doom is still unpacking

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 3:36 PM

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oh okey

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understandable

unique ocean Mar 19, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Its easier to show you what should happen

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586508960128040961/678276373424635913/Dusk_2020.02.15_-_10.23.10.02.DVR.mp4

▶ Play video

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The middle structure doesnt break anymore after the update

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 3:38 PM

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there were some changes to func_breakable to make its implementation more correct, that could be related

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DM me the map and I'll take a look at it after I'm done with eternal

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for now you can try messing with the entity's health

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try setting it to 0

unique ocean Mar 19, 2020, 3:38 PM

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ok

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It appears that the health value has zero impact on if the brush breaks or not

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 3:41 PM

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hm

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what if you set the health to 1

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for all parts

unique ocean Mar 19, 2020, 3:49 PM

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wouldnt that cause instant breaking from weapons?

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 3:50 PM

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yes

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but that might be the only way to get it to break for now

unique ocean Mar 19, 2020, 3:51 PM

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oof

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alirght let me see

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It doesnt appear to work

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 3:54 PM

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wtf, that's weird

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they're just destroyed by being triggered, right?

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do they break if you shoot them?

unique ocean Mar 19, 2020, 3:54 PM

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yes

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triggers dont work, but shooting them does

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 3:54 PM

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hmm, I'll have to look into it then

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that's really strange, I can't think of what could've caused that

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 3:58 PM

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How lightproxy actually works?

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"(allows you to transfer lighting from one entity to another)"
so i should have two ents, one of them with lightproxy property, second with targentname?

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 4:00 PM

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yeah

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 4:00 PM

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wtf

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 4:01 PM

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the entity can be a door for example, so you can move it around to change the lighting on the object

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 4:04 PM

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I need two ents of the same type, or it's more about second ent's position and how the light's gonna fall on it?

ancient depot Mar 19, 2020, 4:05 PM

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the latter

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doesn't matter what type it is

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 4:05 PM

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noice

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damn, it seems that people play Doom Eternal already

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 4:29 PM

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what the fuck is it already out

unique ocean Mar 19, 2020, 4:32 PM

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I think some people can play it early

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 4:34 PM

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maybe some kind of pre-order bonus?

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i heard about the event in certain russian store, DE is available on 19th

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maybe simillar event happened somewhere

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or guys like Zombie are special enough to play early BIGJOHN

sly flicker Mar 19, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Australia, New Zealand and all of Asia got it unlocked way earlier than everybody else

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North and South America have the latest unlock times WILDWOODY1

unique ocean Mar 19, 2020, 4:51 PM

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bruh

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I despise timezone exclusive releases

regal ore Mar 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Moscow here, cannot launch it but I see some people playing already. It will be available in Europe in 6 hours I think?

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 5:10 PM

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what's the filepath to dusk's music?

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 5:12 PM

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shouldn't it be like music/music_name_here.ogg/flac/whatever?

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i'm having trouble with it myself

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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is that for custom music or music already in the game?

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I can't find any ogg files in the game's files

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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i made "music" folder in my mod folder, then i copied some music from dusk\music

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uhh

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1 sec

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and that's how it looks in worldspawn properties

📎 usic.png

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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where's dusk\music

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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don't mind this "s" in the end, i put it here intentionally to make music not play

📎 usics.png

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I don't seem to have it.

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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uhm

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mnt\local\dusk

timber atlas Mar 19, 2020, 5:19 PM

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there it is. Thanks

long anchor Mar 19, 2020, 5:19 PM

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np

alpine depot Mar 19, 2020, 5:26 PM

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yeah im also having some issues with my func_breakables now

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weird stuff is happening with my skybox too

📎 unknown.png

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there's entire buildings behind a certain bit of sky in my map but now the objects behind the sky brushes aren't being rendered

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you can see the odd cutoff here

📎 unknown.png

sharp trail Mar 19, 2020, 5:52 PM

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oh lol. I didn't read the text and thought that was intentional

gritty forge Mar 19, 2020, 7:16 PM

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funcs are acting funky

sharp trail Mar 19, 2020, 7:16 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-wtf-blinking-okay-gif-7513882

Tenor

terse salmon Mar 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

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where's that dang sdk changelog?

tepid python Mar 19, 2020, 8:30 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/240195284695646209/586508960128040961/690020320467222544

terse salmon Mar 19, 2020, 9:33 PM

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thanks, its not released yet is it?

tepid python Mar 19, 2020, 9:38 PM

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it is

terse salmon Mar 19, 2020, 9:41 PM

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i didnt notice my steam updating, ill check it

terse salmon Mar 19, 2020, 10:32 PM

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i dont think enemy alert sounds are fixed yet?

still raptor Mar 20, 2020, 6:40 AM

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the sky is correct now

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sky brushes are meant to render in that way

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before they were not rendering correctly

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now you should use clip brushes to prevent oob, not sky

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(in areas where you want to see whats behind the brush)

gritty forge Mar 20, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Yeah the skybrush isn't seetru

honest stag Mar 20, 2020, 11:53 AM

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skybruh

timber atlas Mar 20, 2020, 3:12 PM

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is there a list of dusk's skyboxes?

sharp trail Mar 20, 2020, 3:31 PM

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buuug i've had this with 2 different maps now

📎 Dusk_Screenshot_2020.03.20_-_16.30.30.17.png

fringe nymph Mar 20, 2020, 5:24 PM

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usually happens with broken/not compatible maps

ancient depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:47 PM

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DM me the maps

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We can't do anything about those bugs without maps to examine

timber atlas Mar 20, 2020, 11:20 PM

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it's amazing how much adding music to a map does for it

timber atlas Mar 21, 2020, 1:25 AM

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is there anyway to do something like godrays or a shaft of light?

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I imagine the only way to do it would be with a light transparent texture

honest stag Mar 21, 2020, 2:11 AM

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dusk has some entities that have this effect, but otherwise you can probably just do the transparent texture thing

timber atlas Mar 21, 2020, 4:20 AM

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I could if I could find a texture like that, what are some of the entities that could do it?

honest stag Mar 21, 2020, 4:24 AM

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you could just use any texture that has yellow on in and then make that part be the entire face
then just slap rendermode on it and bam

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the entities are one of the streetlights and a worklight pretty sure

timber atlas Mar 21, 2020, 4:28 AM

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rendermode as a func_wall?

honest stag Mar 21, 2020, 4:30 AM

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or a func detail, whatever you like

timber atlas Mar 21, 2020, 4:33 AM

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so something like rendermode 100 should do it ya think?

alpine depot Mar 21, 2020, 4:36 AM

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id wager 150 or higher

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100 would be too visible

still raptor Mar 21, 2020, 4:36 AM

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remember, you can use .ents to tune stuff now

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so you can hone in on a value super easily without recompiling the map

alpine depot Mar 21, 2020, 4:37 AM

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i wish i had big brain to do that

still raptor Mar 21, 2020, 4:37 AM

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just edit the .ent file in notepad

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its pretty simple

timber atlas Mar 21, 2020, 4:37 AM

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right, just trying to figure out what values exist that can be changed.

still raptor Mar 21, 2020, 4:37 AM

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run "bsptutil.exe --export yourmapname.bsp"

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and youll get a .ent

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and you just slap it next to your map

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and then you edit it in notepad

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so to quickly iterate on you map you can just make a change, then reload

timber atlas Mar 21, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Oh, I've been meaning to ask, is there a way to enable a console in the sdk? I can't find a key for it in the keybind

honest stag Mar 21, 2020, 5:00 AM

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wait wait hold on

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rendermode is 1
renderamt is another thing you add

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that one is 0 - 255

ancient depot Mar 21, 2020, 5:33 AM

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@timber atlas Console isn't implemented in the SDK yet

timber atlas Mar 21, 2020, 5:35 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3Zx4bV0RE&ab_channel=GarrusVakarian

YouTube

Garrus Vakarian

[Deus Ex] What a shame

JC Dentons reaction to someone dying.

▶ Play video

fierce lava Mar 21, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Dumb question, how do you compile in Trenchbroom with a fully lit map?

still raptor Mar 21, 2020, 8:25 AM

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use ericw's tools

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https://ericwa.github.io/ericw-tools/

terse salmon Mar 21, 2020, 9:19 AM

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is there a list of all sounds that can and can't be replaced currently?

tardy charm Mar 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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So how do we put custom music in our custom DUSK maps?

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because i just saw that custom music is now supported for DUSK.

terse salmon Mar 21, 2020, 3:10 PM

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@tardy charm

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replace

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tardy charm Mar 21, 2020, 5:20 PM

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textures are missing

📎 20200321172001_1.jpg

tardy charm Mar 21, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I´m using a texture pack that adds Blood´s textures as usable Quake textures, any way i can fix this?

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And @terse salmon the music isn´t playing

terse salmon Mar 21, 2020, 5:47 PM

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yeah, i noticed the same thing, it still says 1.5 for the sdk version so im not sure if its updated or not

tardy charm Mar 21, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I did add the music in

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and it should play

terse salmon Mar 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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what's the very first clip that plays at the init of head cheese? i think its a stinger .flac?

eternal abyss Mar 21, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Will there be workshop support for DUSK Mods?