dusk-modding

[honest stag]

thanks my man

[long anchor]

np

[lament ore]

@ancient depot Do we need all those prop_whatevers in the FGD if we're (eventually) gonna have a prop_generic? Might make more sense to just convert em all to IQM and just let us set them as a prop_generic

[honest stag]

http://skrinshoter.ru/i/060120/ZekdEhXy.png
the lights arent bright enough :(
and the candles in the other room shine through walls

my freezer looks off

[long anchor]

aw shiet

cat scratched me slightly

brb

[lament ore]

Although then they'd all have mesh collidere

colliders*

maybe it would be useful if we could override colliders on props

a bunch of mesh colliders sounds problematic

[balmy thorn]

Is there currently a way to teleport in enemies with a trigger?

[honest stag]

David said object_teleport is working but i cant get it right
that thing teleports everything and anything

[balmy thorn]

So for now we'll have to place enemies out of bounds then teleport them to specific spots?

[honest stag]

i mean
that's how it always was

you dont actually spawn new enemies in quake either - they just sit in a room outside of the map

and then they are called to teleport by trigger_teleport

[long anchor]

^

fckn goddammit

[balmy thorn]

Guess I was spoiled by Arcane Dimensions 😛

[long anchor]

now there's blood all over the place

[balmy thorn]

and HL 1

[long anchor]

fucking cats

oh shit i'm a soldier

[honest stag]

is there any way to select multiple brushes at once?

[modest imp]

In Trenchbroom? Ctrl+Left Click.

[honest stag]

nah i mean

[long anchor]

ctrl+lclick lol

[honest stag]

i need to select everything in a room
and there's a LOT of brushes there

i knew i should have grouped them

but other than that - any way to? without double clicking

[modest imp]

I dunno. Sorry. 😖

Still struggling with TB myself.

[long anchor]

@honest stag i had situations like this

i just selected everything individually

rip my patience 😦

[honest stag]

there might be a SLIGHT problem with that
http://skrinshoter.ru/i/060120/oHydtyQd.png

[long anchor]

yeah i know

[balmy thorn]

Yes. Create a brush that covers everything you want to select, then click edit> select touching/inside etc etc

[hollow laurel]

^

[long anchor]

wow

[honest stag]

huh i'll try

[long anchor]

big brain time

[hollow laurel]

very handy (did that and set groups up as well, since groups are really handy)

[honest stag]

holy

fuck

thank you so much that's amazing

[modest imp]

Whoo. DUSK brought back func_vehicle before CS:GO did.

FUNC_VEHICLE IS A RIGHT, NOT A PRIVILEGE

[long anchor]

@ancient depot door locking is broken now

or perhaps you changed the way how you lock them and i missed it?

[lament ore]

Man, working full time sucks :( I wanna be out there mapping cool shit with y'all

I'm just sitting here wasting time

[long anchor]

that's sad 😦

[honest stag]

Looks off sadly, damn you lighting :(

[long anchor]

wow now it's much darker with those lights

[honest stag]

i wish it had like blue/white light it would be perfect

but this way everything looks like the cult forgot the pay the electricity bill and now they use fucking candles everywhere

[long anchor]

aren't those post_2?

[honest stag]

they are

no light tho

[long anchor]

hmm

[honest stag]

oh my god

i just realised you have light bloom on and i dont

i turned it off when i downloaded the sdk

[long anchor]

nope it's not bloom

[modest imp]

That gives me major Unreal Tournament vibes.

👀

[long anchor]

i have light FLARES

bloom is meh

[honest stag]

makes sense - i have them off too

[long anchor]

also i use retro palette

because why not

[honest stag]

hm you know it might be an issue actually

like 1 person makes a map with settings personalized to them
and someone else plays them with different ones and it's a totally different experience

because you dont see the same things author did

[modest imp]

It's why whenever I map, I set the game up however the developer intended, or at least the closest thing to it.

[long anchor]

^

[modest imp]

But in DUSK's case, it's kind of hard to gauge. 🤔

[long anchor]

i have default settings besides retro palette

[honest stag]

you know, it would be cool to have a mod force certain settings like the color settings, gamma and so on

or have recommended ones

[long anchor]

maybe one day

[modest imp]

Oof, gamma is something you don't want to force.

People have different monitors with different settings.

[honest stag]

yeah but i'm def going to make a list with some graphics settings that are recommended to play my maps now

just a txt file inside

[modest imp]

Good thinking. 👌

I'm all about that '94 look. No AA, no filtering, no modern effects. Just chunky pixels from top to bottom.

[honest stag]

i have all off and the color palette is vivid

[modest imp]

Though I don't use the downscale filter unless I'm actually playing the game, not mapping or modding. :v

[honest stag]

here's how the demon mouth portal looks with and without vivid color palette
http://skrinshoter.ru/i/060120/JHmHfJ4b.png
http://skrinshoter.ru/i/060120/TzyBWhqw.png
i prefer the vivid one A LOT and made my entire map with it

[modest imp]

I can see why you dig it. It's very colorful.

Though it looks a bit blown out in places.

[honest stag]

yeah, it kind of helps with the brownness of most textures

this place is intended to be kinda a mix of quake, dusk ep2 and... painkiller actually

[modest imp]

Nice.

I'm still holding out hope for the PS1 port of DUSK (vertex jitter option). 🥴

It's a dumb little idea, but good for a laugh and a couple nostalgia points.

You could say texture filtering is the N64 port, and vertex jitter would the PS1 port.

[long anchor]

classic

[honest stag]

uhm can someone help me out i cant upload a mod on moddb

i can upload an add-on but mods dont work
i click add and nothing happens
anyone else able to do it?

fuck it i'm uploading it into the add-ons section

...and there it is - i could probably do a bit more with it but i'm generally happy with how that came out to be, next map will be better i'm sure of it! have fun

it's kinda short but i like the mood a lot

oh my god i forgot to upload the verison where the level actually ends

oh fuck me

1 moment

sorry for making a double :(

[ancient depot]

@long anchor door locking should still work, that sounds worrying, lemme check the code

@lament ore the prop_* stuff is only there to ease the pain of converting Source maps if they happen to be attached to brushes, because in our implementation, an entity won't show up at all if it's not defined in the code

[ancient depot]

so you set "key" to a number from 1 to 3, right?

[long anchor]

yes

1 for this door in video and 2 for other door

both are opening without keys

[ancient depot]

hm

[viral terrace]

weapon sound overhaul mod for dusk! god DAMN was this painful, please install it and give me your thoughts.

[ancient depot]

that's... very odd

can you DM me a map showcasing the bug?

I'll need to run it in the editor to examine the values & stuff

[long anchor]

is it ok if i send you my map?

[ancient depot]

that's fine

OH WAIT

[long anchor]

oh, there's new map and sound mod

[ancient depot]

I think I know why

we might have accidentally skipped over the key checking code when we made doors triggerable

sec

luckily since this won't require new classes I should be able to do a hotfix too

[fierce lava]

@honest stag
Really liked the level! I would slightly darken the door with the secret, but I wouldn't know how to do that.

[honest stag]

well you found it sooo hey lol

[high magnet]

Hey yo did support for skyboxes come already?

[long anchor]

yes

[fierce lava]

The good ol' spam e sliding with the wall

[high magnet]

Bloody excellent

[long anchor]

but that's literally one unchangable skybox

nice map @honest stag

[honest stag]

ey thanks

[fringe nymph]

eh partial support for light entity still means broken but less broken

[long anchor]

@viral terrace nice soundpack

[ancient depot]

ok yeah, we forgot to account for keys

should be fixed, gonna test now

[long anchor]

although pistol shot seems to be panned to left too much

[viral terrace]

yeah thats a weird thing

[honest stag]

i am making something very, very stupid
http://skrinshoter.ru/i/060120/AsgPXynn.png

[ancient depot]

I don't have your wads so there are no textures in the bsp I compiled but yeah fixed

Not gonna pin this for now because dll replacements have been hit or miss so far

But that should contain the fix

cc @long anchor

[long anchor]

what does "cc" means

i mean

i know some of these shortened words

[ancient depot]

"carbon copy" it's an email thing

[long anchor]

but this one is new to me

so google didn't lie

[ancient depot]

basically means "also send this email to"

[long anchor]

ok thanks

[ancient depot]

I use it when I'm posting in a channel with multiple people but my message is mainly targeted at one person lmao

[long anchor]

heh

it works

[tender rock]

quick question, DUSK SDK will get a Linux support in the future?

[honest stag]

http://skrinshoter.ru/i/060120/uuCPHmIP.png
I cant fucking stop laughing oh my god this is so stupid

the giant motherfucker has been awakened, run

[ancient depot]

@tender rock yes

[long anchor]

nyarla's bro?

[honest stag]

pet

[long anchor]

petbro

[tender rock]

@honest stag meme that shit

Fabino style

[honest stag]

man i feel kinda sad now after making the church map
that looked so pretty and i was so inspired but this is just silly lol
i think i will scrap it

if anyone wants that stupid-ass thing and actually finish the map - i can dm you the .map file

[long anchor]

hmm

ok, gimme gimme

i'll try something after i finish my map lol

[honest stag]

i kinda wanted that to be a bootleg boss with func_breakable
like you try to stop it from climbing out while enemies swarms you

but i really want to make something pretty and fun like church

here take it

[long anchor]

it's not dm but ok i guess

[balmy thorn]

feel the power

[honest stag]

eh it's not a secret really

[fluid nimbus]

public dm

consider it a dm to everyone on the server

[honest stag]

i spent so much time making it too it's actually making me sad lol

and then i just zoom out and i see it in full

bleh

[spiral nexus]

I present to you my first ever DUSK map (and de factor my first ever HL1 map because I was using JACK) https://i.imgur.com/sT2bh8i.jpg

[fluid nimbus]

god damnit

[honest stag]

is that...

[fluid nimbus]

it is that.

[spiral nexus]

I called it "the society stairs"

[long anchor]

lol

[fluid nimbus]

big john dancing down the stairs

[long anchor]

imagine big john dancing here

WTF

[honest stag]

i unironically like it actually
use it in a full map lol

[fluid nimbus]

it does look good

put 2 soldiers at the top and a scientist in the middle

[tepid flint]

Put a scientist at the top of the stairs that has a green coat texture

[ancient depot]

Someone better do a joker reskin for the scientists now

[tepid flint]

Exactly my point

[fluid nimbus]

the joker shoots nyarthalotep

[sour hollow]

Everyone's first map in 2020 will be the Joker stairs.

I'm calling it.

[tepid flint]

Nah it's e1m1 ports

[sour hollow]

Or that.

[spiral nexus]

I am not really sure how to put DUSK mobs in JACK, I tried opening my map in Trenchbroom but it prominently gave out error and closed itself (thought that might be due to the fact I don't have Quack installed)

[sterile junco]

wait you can use jack

for dusk

[spiral nexus]

yeah HL1 maps work almost natively

[fluid nimbus]

anything that makes maps for quake, HL1, etc

hammer and worldcraft work iirc

[spiral nexus]

I think you can create Quack maps using JACK too, but I would personally use Trenchbroom for it

[fluid nimbus]

trenchbroom is just what's recommended, being the most modern iirc

[ancient depot]

Yup

It's easier for us to only need to support one editor, and we just happened to pick TrenchBroom since it's currently the main Quake editor

[sterile junco]

i did get trenchbroom working

[ancient depot]

We'll still try to help anyone using other editors, but we won't know much about them

[sterile junco]

so im gonna stick to that

[spiral nexus]

I have almost 300 hours in Source SDK so for me VHE layout is way more familiar, but JACK has its own quirks compared to Hammer 3

[fluid nimbus]

jack and hammer

hmmm

[sterile junco]

porting my hl2 map to hl1 to quake to dusk

so i can have de_pizzahut in dusk

[long anchor]

pizzahut?

sounds interesting

[spiral nexus]

protip for creating DUSK-looking textures: google x textures seamless use the first result and scale it using nearest neighbour to 128x128 and then to 256x256

[fluid nimbus]

you can skip quake tho

you can port from hl1 to dusk directly

emiru you joke but that's a thing actual game devs do with free to use textures

or their own texture for that matter

make a hd texture, scale it down, restrict to a palette

[spiral nexus]

bruh

[modest imp]

I think you can still find original resolution textures from HL1 floating around on the web, like for the removed Stukabat enemy.

[honest stag]

goddamit everything for me just comes down to churches and cults :(
i really like how they look and i feel like i can do them well but goddamn i just made a church map
http://skrinshoter.ru/i/060120/OWqLnO1Q.png

[spiral nexus]

Bruh Faith in Dusk

[honest stag]

fusk

[spiral nexus]

thou art mortis

[fluid nimbus]

daith

someone found/remade the faith voice filter and sent it to vinny and he used it a few time on stream
imagine nyarthalotep's lines through the regular filter + this

[spiral nexus]

Faith uses C64 text-to-speech programme

[fluid nimbus]

kk

alright then someone remade it into a voice filter thing

cause the one I heard on stream was like, amazingly on point

[half dust]

Is door rotating in now?

[honest stag]

afaik, nope

[half dust]

Okay, thanks

[honest stag]

what do momentary_door and momentary_rot_button do?

[ancient depot]

think of the doors in half life that you can partially open using wheels

that's what those are

but atm they're just alternate names for func_door and func_button, we haven't implemented them yet

[honest stag]

Ah alright

[rapid crown]

Hey, this is me just getting round to downloading the SDK... excuse my dumd-ass, but wth is a Steam Beta Branch? Or am I missing something?

[still raptor]

right click on the game in your library, click properties, go to the beta tab

enter the password oohatinybarn

[rapid crown]

oooohh#

😄

ty

[still raptor]

then you can install the sdk

[rapid crown]

never done that before 👌

am I correct in thinking that when the update has downloaded, there's a separate .exe for the SDK in the Dusk folder?

[fluid nimbus]

yes but also you can just press launch in the steam library and select the sdk

like how you select duskworld

[rapid crown]

oh nice

[ancient depot]

Yes, under bin/win_x64, but you're supposed to use the dusk_win.bat file to run it, or the Steam launch option

[rapid crown]

okay cool

[still raptor]

the only reason that the launch option doesnt use the bat file is that there were some weird crashes we didnt have time to hunt down

[rapid crown]

no problem

[fluid nimbus]

did the loading issue with arcane dimension maps get fixed yet?

[still raptor]

what loading issue?

[fluid nimbus]

some of the maps were so big that they'd pretty much crash your pc when loading

because the sdk has issues with bigger maps right now I think

[still raptor]

well, its a bit more complicated than that lol

[fluid nimbus]

like, usually quake maps are 5mb and forgotten sepulcher is 50

[still raptor]

but no, i would not suggest trying to load sepulcher

[fluid nimbus]

yeah figured

[still raptor]

theres no "issue" per se

it will work

just take you ages

[fluid nimbus]

I remember zombie saying they'd fix an issue related to that eventually

[ancient depot]

Yeah the maps load, the "issue" is that they take an eternity to do so

[fluid nimbus]

there you go

I'm curious as to what's happening in the code that causes it though

[still raptor]

on top of probably not running super well, as currently we dont use vis data

the main load time "issue" is unity's texture packing afaik

[fluid nimbus]

ah

[modest imp]

Stupid question, but mapping for GoldSrc and Source spoiled me. Are there any plans for an in-game "disconnect" option that boots you back to the main menu?

When making minute changes in an HL map, I'd always disconnect from the local "server" that the engine creates, compile the map again, and then reload it without having to restart the game.

[ancient depot]

You can already do that

[honest stag]

you can just press escape and choose the level again, no?

[ancient depot]

replace the .bsp and just start the level again

[honest stag]

yeah you dont even have to leave when you replace the bsp

[modest imp]

Wait, I could do that this whole time?

[honest stag]

yes

were you... restarting the game?

[modest imp]

i need to unfuck myself

[fringe nymph]

you dont have to restart the game

[modest imp]

I've trained myself to close the map in-game to prevent any odd file conflicts, but I couldn't find a way to do that in Dusk, so I just... yeah.

[fringe nymph]

you can compile and replace the map while in game

[honest stag]

oh you poor soul

[modest imp]

I can even do it while I'm in the damned map, can't I?

[fringe nymph]

then just select same map

yes

[honest stag]

i cant imagine waiting for the long-ass loading every time

[modest imp]

🥴 🔫

[fringe nymph]

map is already loaded into memory it dosent use/stream from the file

[long anchor]

you don't even have to exit to main menu

[ancient depot]

Yeah imagine how it was for me when I was first getting the BSP support in lmao

Reloading support was added quite late

[modest imp]

Well, at least I know now! :V

[ancient depot]

It used to take even longer to load before we changed some settings too

Like 2 to 3 times as long

[fringe nymph]

that blackscreen for 2-3 secs is still annoying tho

[modest imp]

Alas, the game must preload.

😔

[ancient depot]

Won't be necessary soon

That load time is actually part of the reason you can't replace music or ambient sounds yet

[modest imp]

Asset streaming is coming? 😰

[ancient depot]

Already supported, I wrote the code, it's just not used

We need to hook it up to all the music stuff

[modest imp]

oh my god please stream my assets baby

[honest stag]

oh man oh man
imagine the game not loading as long and you can have proper lighting and ambient sounds oh god

[ancient depot]

soon™️

[modest imp]

I know it's asking for a lot but... what about supporting loop points through audio cues, like GoldSrc and Source can? 😭

Is that already a thing?

[honest stag]

http://skrinshoter.ru/i/060120/JPUIC7AM.png
i cant get enough of candles and window frames jesus

[low halo]

https://ibb.co/fGtmcHh

this was a very quick/sloppy implementation (didn't do the back) but

[honest stag]

oh no

[long anchor]

oh yes

[modest imp]

oh maybe?

[gritty forge]

We live in a society

[ancient depot]

@modest imp as in loop points in the sound itself?

@low halo lmao I love it

[modest imp]

Yep, loop points in the sound itself.

They're usually saved as cue points in software like GoldWave.

[ancient depot]

It's on my todo list, but I'll probably wait for scripting support first

we'll see

[modest imp]

Makes sense to me. 👍

[fluid nimbus]

I can't wait for scripting support so I can fullfill my dream of making dusk a live service looter shooter

dusktiny

inb4 someone ports dusk to 3ds when the open source version releases

someone ports dusk to switch before new blood

someone ports the switch to dusk

[half dust]

Hmm, my keys don't work for some reason.

Can we not make buttons shootable yet? I can still open the door with E even when there's a button tied to it.

[long anchor]

they didn't work for me too

@ancient depot sent new dll, said he won't pin it cause "it's hit or miss at this point"

[half dust]

Yes, I downloaded it.

[ancient depot]

if it works fine I can pin it

shootable buttons aren't in yet

[long anchor]

then do it lol

i mean pin it

o i

[half dust]

I guess it did't work for me tho.

[fluid nimbus]

just do it 4head

[ancient depot]

CURRENT HOTFIX
Replace original file in SDK -> bin -> win_x64 -> Dusk_Data -> Managed
Fixes key property on func_door
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586508960128040961/663724245645525019/NewBlood.dll

[fringe nymph]

ill focus on geometry until functionality and lightning is done/workable

[half dust]

Sweet, it's working now.

When I load the map a bunch of monsters just die instantly for some reason.

Like they all get teleported to the middle.

[fluid nimbus]

you're that powerful

[honest stag]

What's in the new dll?

oh wait i'm an idiot

[long anchor]

known feeling

@ancient depot does sunlight work?

[modest imp]

I loaded in an HL1 map, and light_environment did its job.

[ancient depot]

@long anchor that's the domain of the lightmapper

it's not something we have to support ourselves

[long anchor]

so that means i can't use _sunlight property for worldspawn?

[ancient depot]

it means you can

because it's not a property that has any affect at runtime

it's part of building the map

[long anchor]

oh

ok

it really works

[ancient depot]

any property that begins with an underscore is like that

[long anchor]

so i don't need to place thousands of light entities in outdoor areas

yeee

any property that begins with an underscore is like that
got it

_sunlight is only underscored property i've seen so far tho

[ancient depot]

there's also _light

for changing the colour of a light

iirc

[long anchor]

oh about that

so colored lights are also possible to make now

[ancient depot]

doesn't work atm though because we don't support .lit files

[long anchor]

oh

[ancient depot]

if you compile to half life bsp it'd work though

[long anchor]

ok

i was going to say that HL maps i loaded had colored lights

[spiral nexus]

Is it possible to get r_fullbright/mat_fullbright type of cheat in Dusk for HL maps that don't have any lighting?

[ancient depot]

it'll be added at some point in the future after we add the console in, but for now you can use the light property on worldspawn and compile your map without lighting

[spiral nexus]

I see, thanks

[fringe nymph]

too bad worldspawn light property dosent have something between 0 and 1

[spiral nexus]

usually light_environment does the trick if you have at least semi open map

[vestal hare]

Just so I get this straight. You cant make maps with SDK currently? You have to use other games sdks to do that?

[ancient depot]

@fringe nymph it's 0-255

@vestal hare There were never any plans for a custom level editor

[fringe nymph]

but on 1 is already quite bright

[ancient depot]

We're integrating with the workflows of Source & id Tech titles

The SDK is just Dusk's mod support, which includes support for loading BSP maps, and replacing assets in the game

[fringe nymph]

i expected it working just like in doom maps

unless the palette is the issue

[low halo]

Idk if it's been mentioned here before but how would you go about exporting from Trenchbroom as a .BSP? Having trouble finding a simple way to do so that works

[fringe nymph]

0 is pitch black, 1 is quite lit

if it is how global illumination works then ill stick to light entities/props

[vestal hare]

Ah ok got ya

[still raptor]

for the record

[ancient depot]

@low halo You need a BSP compiler, I recommend ericw tools

[still raptor]

trenchbroom is not part of another games sdk

[ancient depot]

^

[fringe nymph]

^

[still raptor]

its a completely independently developed piece of software

its just a level editor that exports .map files

[mortal narwhal]

How do I make jump pads work? they're sideways

[low halo]

sweet thanks for the recommendation! I kept seeing a bunch of other ones that weren't working when I tried to set em up

[fringe nymph]

also

use q1sp compilin gui

for ericw tools

[ancient depot]

@mortal narwhal That's something we need to fix, for now you can fix it in your map using the euler property for entities

[fringe nymph]

just to make things much faster

[ancient depot]

It takes an x y z value, just like origin

It rotates the object

[mortal narwhal]

gotcha

[ancient depot]

I believe teleporters need 0 90 0

[mortal narwhal]

could I also make it target an info_null, does that change it's orientation?

[ancient depot]

nope

[fringe nymph]

light_environmental works similar to light rn so nah

[balmy thorn]

@ancient depot The object rotation issues will be addressed in a hotfix patch, or when the sdk is officially released?

[ancient depot]

hotfix

[balmy thorn]

Neat

I haven't bothered with objects yet because of the issue 😛 Sticking to level design for now.

[long anchor]

before

after

damn

[tepid flint]

@long anchor great job keep it up

egg

[long anchor]

thanks

obv it's WIP area, gonna improve

[gritty forge]

Inspired

[mortal narwhal]

nice

[balmy thorn]

🤘

[long anchor]

thanks everyone

[ancient depot]

that looks awesome!

You're really nailing the aesthetic of the campaign with it

[long anchor]

@ancient depot ALERT ALERT new dll broke dusk campaign

game just crashes

or maybe it's new patch, not dll hotfix

i saved previous dll, i'll check

yeah it's dll hotfix

[iron needle]

How's everything going?

[modest imp]

My world's on fire, how about yours?

[iron needle]

Snow

[long anchor]

it's pretty good

[modest imp]

🥶

[long anchor]

Snow? -5C snow or -30C snow?

[modest imp]

I'm also about to set up DUSK for mapping on my work laptop, because I'm a rebel.

[long anchor]

work dusker, not harder

[iron needle]

@long anchor I'm from the US I don't know what those numbers mean lol

[modest imp]

They mean cold and hella cold, respectively.

[gritty forge]

Custom entities yeet

[long anchor]

lol

[iron needle]

Did I see @honest stag finished their map?

[half dust]

Oh, so my teleporters will work if I give them euler 0 90 0?

Or is that just for the objects?

[long anchor]

it's 23F and -22F @iron needle

yeah he finished it

@half dust didn't touch tps yet, so i can't tell sorry 😦

altough i can say that euler just rotates objects and props

[iron needle]

@long anchor more like the 23F

[long anchor]

lucky you

[iron needle]

It's been a weird winter here

[half dust]

Is object_teleporter a functioning teleporter or just a visual thing? I'm not clear.

[half vessel]

@long anchor we have 40c snow here rn

[long anchor]

@gritty forge wtf how did you make it

go to jail

[gritty forge]

dnSpy

[fast ridge]

I'm pretty good

[long anchor]

@half vessel we had -30c with super strong wind recently

basically blizzard

[fast ridge]

After I finish my horrible meme pack I'll try making an actual map

[half vessel]

i don't think i've ever been in negative temps

[long anchor]

lool

[half vessel]

i know for a fact i've never seen snow

[long anchor]

Oh wait

you live in Australia, right?

[half vessel]

it doesn't count as snow if it's ash

does it

?

[long anchor]

i remember someone said that he lives in Australia, wasn't it you?

[half vessel]

yup

[long anchor]

lol how did i even rememberd it

anyway

[half vessel]

i've remembered dumber stuff

[modest imp]

Winter's been really weird here in south PA, too. 50f one day, 30f the next. Lots of rain, too.

[iron needle]

Also please don't be afraid to upload stuff to ModDB right now even if you don't think it's amazing. The more content the better

@modest imp yup that's exactly how it's been here. Snow just won't stick for more than a few days at a time

[modest imp]

I think we've had snow two times this season. At most. Very mild so far. :v

[crude cedar]

all the shit would be MEMES

all of it

[iron needle]

Or alternatively it's also fine to make a thread on the steam modding forums with links to downloads etc

[modest imp]

More mods = more awareness, simple as that. 😎

[half vessel]

isn't it all memes on moddb rn

[tight fractal]

haha david pee colord

stinky poopie pee pee

[crude cedar]

Haha jab plant coloured

[modest imp]

Let the rivers run red with DUSK mods.

[fast ridge]

Dusk is a meme game so it's ok

[pliant sierra]

any mod is a good mod

[half vessel]

why is the mods tab blank on moddb

[long anchor]

@iron needle @modest imp you guys are lucky actually

[half vessel]

it wasn't the other day

hm

[long anchor]

me and my bro were driving on a highway recently

in blizzard

[fast ridge]

even this mod?

[half vessel]

okay weird it's not blank in private window

[long anchor]

and we almost got in massive car accident because of the fucking snow lying around

[fast ridge]

Snow is nice to look at, about it though

[half vessel]

can't wait for workshop support whenever that's coming out even though the workshop is fucking annoying to work with

[long anchor]

also because we couldn't see more then 10 meters in front of us

[iron needle]

@long anchor oof that's never fun

[long anchor]

Snow is nice to look at, about it though
although only when it's not exposed to sun, otherwise it's feels like you're blind lol

yeah, it wasn't fun

at least i'll remember how 2020 started for me

lmao

[modest imp]

Boy howdy, I hope it stays like this through next week.

[long anchor]

actually i should say "at least i'm not dead"

but that's grim, meh

[modest imp]

I've got a twelve hour drive through mountains and plains to get through. Twice.

Better stay fucking mild.

[long anchor]

^^^

[iron needle]

@modest imp lol have fun

[modest imp]

Thank ye. Got someone to split the drive with, so it ain't all bad. 😁

[iron needle]

Ahh good. 12 hours is a lot

[modest imp]

Besides, it's through the Appalachians. Maybe I could use the drive for mapping inspiration.

[fast ridge]

do quake maps in Dusk have texture support?

[modest imp]

Yup, as long as you include the palette file.

[crude cedar]

Is there an easy way to find out what textures are mapped where on a model

[modest imp]

Just drop palette.lmp into the root folder of the mod.

[fast ridge]

ah gotcha

much obliged

[modest imp]

👍

[iron needle]

Besides, it's through the Appalachians. Maybe I could use the drive for mapping inspiration. I did that a bunch yeah

[half vessel]

hell yeah there's always cool buildings to see when out and about

[long anchor]

Have you been in Chernobyl?

[iron needle]

Is there an easy way to find out what textures are mapped where on a model you mean like a UV outline? We're planning on doing that in the future

[crude cedar]

sweet

[iron needle]

@long anchor sadly not

[half vessel]

i got a bunch of nice photos a couple years back from where mad max 1 was filmed

[long anchor]

s a d l y

[crude cedar]

because the texture sheet for some things like BJ is ridiculous

no differentiation and everything is smushed together

[iron needle]

Yeah lol

[half vessel]

lots of good stuff in here

[crude cedar]

oooh

[half vessel]

went down like seven floors underground but you're not allowed down there without being on a tour

not my photos because i don't remember where i put them

probably on some old hard drive somewhere

[modest imp]

Funny thing is, if Dusk was a real place, it'd probably be within driving distance of me. :v

[iron needle]

Niiiiiiice @half vessel

[modest imp]

Whole family is from western PA and western MD.

[iron needle]

@modest imp correct lol

[modest imp]

I can vouch for DUSK's accurate portrayal of PA mountain towns. They even got the cart dogs right. Nobody gets the cart dogs right.

[fast ridge]

Funny, the first level is similar to my old house

[modest imp]

The first map I threw together last night was a vague approximation of my uncle's old house at Deep Creek Lake. 😜

[crude cedar]

I have no idea how to create mappy

[pearl reef]

Lincoln Way in dusk when

[crude cedar]

If I could cry, I still wouldn't

[modest imp]

But someone else created Mappy.

https://cdn.wikimg.net/en/strategywiki/images/thumb/2/24/Mappy_JP_flyer.jpg/250px-Mappy_JP_flyer.jpg

😎

wait a minute

what if i recreated mappy in dusk

using jump pads

[pearl reef]

That would be difficult if you're going for sidescrolling

Considering duskdude has no playermodel and the camera would be fixed

[modest imp]

Oh, it wouldn't be a sidescroller.

[long anchor]

too bad we can't color lights yet and they're overall buggy

[modest imp]

I'd need to set up the map logic so that once you pick up every item in the house, it sends you to the next section.

But if I can remake Double Domination in TF2, I can do this.

[still raptor]

you can get color lights if you compile for hlbsp

[crystal lily]

`Is there documentation on unit scaling in DUSK? Really want to recreate my house someday

[modest imp]

That's a good question. 🤔

[ancient depot]

More on that eventually once it can be customized

[long anchor]

you can get color lights if you compile for hlbsp
oh, ok

Zombie, have you seen my message about dll hotfix?

[ancient depot]

breaking the campaign?

expected tbh, unity hates replacing dlls

[long anchor]

ok

[sharp trail]

what the hell is a pallete.lmp

[modest imp]

It's the file that contains Quake's color palette.

Dusk uses it as a point of reference for coloring the textures from Quake.

Just like Quake did many, many years ago.

If you open up Quake's PAK0.PAK file, it'll be in the /gfx/ directory.

If you're not sure how to open a PAK file, Dragon UnPACKer is my go-to tool for digging around older game files. https://www.elberethzone.net/dragon-unpacker.html

[sharp trail]

oh ok thx

[modest imp]

👍

[gritty forge]

I'm glad I prepared a bunch of replacement sounds for the Dusk weapons before the SDK's release.

But I plan to use those later.

[half vessel]

there's a dusk pallete

pallette

whatever

in the pins

palette

[sharp trail]

oh ok

[half vessel]

it's 5:30am i don't have to do english

[long anchor]

there's no dusk palette in pins

[sharp trail]

oh

[long anchor]

you probably mean dusk.wad?

cause dusk.wad is pinned, yes

[half vessel]

oh wait right

i have a dusk palette i think

[long anchor]

how did you get it tho

[half vessel]

might be a quake palette i dunno i never really got into earlier than hammer mapping

someone here sent it i think

[long anchor]

i'm pretty sure it's quake palette

[half vessel]

might be

it gave me dusk textures though

[modest imp]

That sounds like the WAD file, then.

[long anchor]

lol apparently i've been mapping for almost 30 hours now

i think i need a little break

[modest imp]

The WAD file (dusk.wad) holds the textures, while the palette file (palette.lmp) is just a very small color reference.

It's all a bit scrambled right now, since there's no real centralized toolkit for us common folk to use. :v

[honest stag]

...so it seems like i actually cannot break out of the "make a church-like scene, and add candles too" thing

• the while "make a sea monster" horrible idea didnt turn out well

[modest imp]

Want a new, exciting idea?

Something to challenge yourself with?

[honest stag]

i want a church with candles, but yes maybe

[modest imp]

How about a lumberyard with candles? 👀

Plenty of assets that can be used to make one.

[long anchor]

i suggest trying to think about some kind of a plot and imagining what different places you can visit during the plot happening

[honest stag]

i dont really have a grasp on how they look lol

what, like
a CHURCH 👀

[modest imp]

Google Images can go a long way for that.

[honest stag]

well i guess i'll just go along with what i'm doing now and then try something else

[modest imp]

Check out this old, abandoned lumber mill in WV, for instance. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/54/d1/b154d1170851aae45611ae2128cac410.jpg

https://photorator.com/photos/images/rusty-lumber-mill-at-cass-mountain-wv--10492.jpg

[long anchor]

hmmmm

it looks suprisingly familiar

oh wait

[crude cedar]

walk in the woods gamedev

classic stuff

[long anchor]

that's how generic sawmills look

me dum dum sorre

[fluid nimbus]

commonly refered to as "the myamoto"

[iron needle]

@modest imp those are literally the reference pictures I used for Sawdust lol

[modest imp]

i am fucking

CLAIRVOYANT

[iron needle]

Yup lol

It's such a cool sawmill

[honest stag]

You know i might be kind of uninspired now but i played su much stalker that i can literally recreate it's maps by memory
And Cordon is actually kind of a great Dusk location

[modest imp]

Sounds silly, but I bet arena_lumberyard from TF2 would make a good endless survival map. :v

[long anchor]

stalker mod when

[proper cargo]

IDI SVOYEY DOROGOY STALKER

(sorry i cannot to)

[long anchor]

ИДИ СВОЕЙ ДОРОГОЙ СТАЛКЕР

[iron needle]

@honest stag I have no issue with you doing STALKER maps in Dusk 😛

[long anchor]

actually when i think about it

[ancient depot]

oh right

[long anchor]

dusk and stalker are pretty simillar in their structure

[honest stag]

Hell yea!

[ancient depot]

we havent tried opening stalker PSP maps now that we have wad support

[long anchor]

beginning in outskirts of something and ending in center of something mysteriously evil

bugaga

[iron needle]

@ancient depot omg you're right

[proper cargo]

if i remember right - ogf (xray map format) is actually bsp based one with some ai and spawn info baked in it

[iron needle]

@long anchor not a coincidence. Dusk was very influenced by STALKER in terms of world and atmosphere, and originally the story was almost a homage

[long anchor]

yeah, i know

[modest imp]

Is DUSK capable of map transitions without intermission screens, or returning to previous maps?

[iron needle]

@modest imp not yet

[long anchor]

i didn't really think about the structure, about the protagonist's path

[spiral nexus]

bruh Dusk needs cursed slav mod

[modest imp]

The ability to keep the state of previous maps would be miiiiighty powerful for us modders. 🥴

[crude cedar]

open world dusk

with fun activites

[modest imp]

DUSKTROIDVANIA

[spiral nexus]

Retrieve Stoli for Civvie

[iron needle]

@modest imp yes it would

[modest imp]

Actually, it's first person. Dusktroid Prime.

:3

[long anchor]

Retrieve Stoli for Civvie
???

what's Stoli

[spiral nexus]

in one of his vids he was advertising stoli as a gag

[long anchor]

ah

googled

[modest imp]

Maybe it could be a nice little feature in the distant future, persistent map states and returning to previous maps. Like Half-Life can do. That'd be rad as hell.

[long anchor]

got it

[spiral nexus]

and it's memey Russian vodka

[modest imp]

Once everything else is working properly, at least. :V

[long anchor]

i know how it's called in russian - "Столичная"

oh

[half vessel]

@honest stag

the cordon would make a pretty good dusk map

[long anchor]

i accidentally looked at my steam screenshots

@ancient depot something's odd with textures in campaign

what

[ancient depot]

Yeah that's caused by a ProBuilder bug

[long anchor]

where's the screenshot

[sharp trail]

ok. I guess im having some problems with the sdk. Im trying to play a quake test map in the dusk sdk(wich worked with quakespasm) and i've put the files in in the exact order i was supposed to (like it was described in Zombies pinned message)

[honest stag]

holy damn yeah stalker would do good in map form
i'll try but i'm struggling with making industrial-looking things so far

[long anchor]

discord devoured it

[half vessel]

i mean

[ancient depot]

the screenshot shows up on my end

[half vessel]

you could just do wild territory

[proper cargo]

welp

[long anchor]

@ancient depot something's ood with textures in campaign

[half vessel]

or the bar

/rostok

[ancient depot]

but yeah like I said

probuilder bug

[long anchor]

uhm

[ancient depot]

fixing it is annoying

[honest stag]

i wanna do cordon first
more people remember it

[long anchor]

ok, i need to restart discord i guess

[ancient depot]

I fixed it for most maps

[half vessel]

or hell even jupiter

i still think the concrete plant is one of my favourite spots in the entire franchise

there's so little verticality in the series

[proper cargo]

tested stalker psp and without textures it not cursed\blessed enough

[long anchor]

oh

[half vessel]

stalker psp

hmmmmmm

[proper cargo]

(for some reason i cannot send pics here, sry)

[long anchor]

so i sent two screenshots, discord didn't want to refresh itself for some reason

sorry Zombie

sorry Zombie

[sharp trail]

uh help

[iron needle]

@modest imp yeah we were talking about how to add that as a feature

@half vessel bruh, blessed take

The concrete plant is so good

It's such a small quiet little part of the game but it's such perfect atmosphere

Exploring this abandoned vertical structure

[long anchor]

yeah we were talking about how to add that as a feature
can you please copypaste what he wrote cause his messages didn't appear for me

[modest imp]

I'm guessing it would involve taking "inventory" of all entities and their current state/position in the map while leaving it, then caching it locally before saving it all in the player's save file. It would cause saves to increase slowly in size, but that's not too bad.

[fluid nimbus]

@long anchor https://i.imgur.com/BaPObta.png

it's from like 10mn ago

[long anchor]

thanks

[modest imp]

But then, you'd only need one set of entity states for each map, meaning you can't have more "inventories" than there are maps!

[long anchor]

as i said, internet fell down and discord refuses to refresh messages

[ancient depot]

D.U.S.K. is pretty cursed

[fluid nimbus]

what's D.U.S.K

[long anchor]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S.K.

[fringe nymph]

looks like stalker impersonation

[long anchor]

^ cause it's stalker map loaded in DUSK ^

[proper cargo]

@ancient depot how you enable textures? did you copied wads in root of textures?

[ancient depot]

mod folder, outside the textures folder

[fluid nimbus]

isn't stalker open world

[fluid nimbus]

wouldn't that take forever to load

[proper cargo]

@ancient depot \base\models one ?

[ancient depot]

@iron needle D.U.S.K.: Shadow of Quake is now a reality

@proper cargo I copied everything from base/textures/wad3

[long anchor]

nah it's separated in maps

@fluid nimbus

[fluid nimbus]

so this is just 1 map?

[long anchor]

i guess so

[balmy thorn]

Is that Paranoia?

[ancient depot]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. PSP

[balmy thorn]

Ah, so Paranoia ripped Stalker textures then.

[long anchor]

wait

paranoia is HL mod, right

[balmy thorn]

Yes

[ancient depot]

yes

[long anchor]

so we can load paranoia maps

[ancient depot]

yes

[long anchor]

Y E S

[ancient depot]

Cry of Fear too

[long anchor]

oh god

[balmy thorn]

Darth Zombie, what have you unleashed?

[ancient depot]

hell

[balmy thorn]

Hehe

Dusk is spreading through games like a disease.

I like it.

[honest stag]

Welp i guess i dont need to recreate it anymore lol

[long anchor]

Y E S

[iron needle]

@ancient depot where do I get this

[ancient depot]

https://www.moddb.com/games/stalker-portable

[iron needle]

Imma try this when I get to my computer lol

[ancient depot]

suffers from the HLBSP black skybox thing though so I had to delete that in the editor to get a sky

[iron needle]

We gotta fix that somehow

[ancient depot]

pretty sure it's just an oversight on my part

need to look at how hl skyboxes work

[weak vessel]

oh shit lmao

[honest stag]

What the fuck is that

[weak vessel]

awesome

[honest stag]

A psp game

[long anchor]

@torpid agate that's nice

[modest imp]

Welcome. Welcome to Dusk. You have been chosen, and only been chosen, to relocate to one of our finest remaining rural centers.

[iron needle]

lol

Dusk is infecting everything yeah

[torpid agate]

dusk is a virus.exe

[long anchor]

i kinda want now to play heart of evil in dusk

[modest imp]

I thought so much of Dusk that I elected to establish my cult here, in the ruins so thoughtfully provided by our overlords. I have been proud to call Dusk my home.

[ancient depot]

lmao

[long anchor]

lel

[modest imp]

And so, whether you are here to stay, or passing through on your way to dimensions unknowable, welcome to Dusk. It's cloudier here.

[iron needle]

Pretty sure there are resources for converting Doom maps to bsp too

[ancient depot]

Yup, although I don't think there are binaries, just source

So someone would need to build it

[iron needle]

Yeah

[torpid agate]

theres one i found called d2q that spits out a map file

very jank tho

i just want to decompile der reise from cod zombies for when we can do custom endless levels

[long anchor]

we'll be able to make endless levels?

noice

[ancient depot]

I mean, I could toy with supporting some of CoD BSP lol

https://wiki.zeroy.com/index.php?title=Call_of_Duty_4:_d3dbsp there's this

[modest imp]

Well, World at War is technically running Quake 3's engine... kind of... sort of. Lots of shit that obviously wouldn't be back compatible with older engines. :V

[torpid agate]

I’m getting excited for dusk der reise

[modest imp]

You could probably at least bring the BSP geometry over to a Q3A format map, then do the rest of the work manually to make something Dusk-compatible.

[fluid nimbus]

kino dusk toten

[torpid agate]

Yeah I just need the geometry. Don’t need textures. Can retexture with dusk stuff

[modest imp]

Bet there's a lot of detail models that won't carry over, though. 😦

[torpid agate]

Ye that’s true

[alpine depot]

wow trenchbroom is a lot easier to use than i thought

[ancient depot]

Yeah, a recreation would probably be a better approach

[alpine depot]

so much easier than when i was using something like hammer

[honest stag]

It is very easy

[torpid agate]

Well if I had a the map file of the geometry, it would be easier to recreate by hand

[gritty forge]

Who would have thought that people still know how to develop user friendly software

I thought this was the age of Electron apps

[modest imp]

Now all we need is a CyberDUSK mod, where Duskdude has to travel through neon-lit, rain soaked alleyways filled with cybercultists and mechanically enhanced horrors.

Kick Nyarlathotep's ass all over again atop a towering, rusted arcology.

[hallow fern]

EYE Duskvine Cybermancy

[modest imp]

DUSK Runner: The Director's Final Ultimate Cut Edition

[hallow fern]

Also I finally got home and loaded up the DUSK .wad in trenchbroom and I'm so hype

[torpid agate]

Lmfao. When I start that hl2 in goldsrc mod in dusk, I immediately get attacked by big john in a black room because the beginning of that game is a gman cutscene.

[modest imp]

YAAAGH, RIGHT MAN, WRONG PLACE, YAAAAAAAGH

[torpid agate]

Scared the carp outta me

[hallow fern]

COME ON, MR. FREEMAN, DO IT!

[torpid agate]

Lmao

[gritty forge]

Can you record an epic video and share it?

I am laughing just by reading about it

[fluid nimbus]

the chances of half life maps being fully compatible by default eventually are gonna be pretty much 0 right

[ancient depot]

Depends, some of them will be fully playable eventually

[fluid nimbus]

because of cutscenes & scripted events etc

[modest imp]

I don't think you're gonna be doing backflips over Nihilanth, though.

[ancient depot]

But some stuff like say, the Gonarch boss maps in Xen won't work out of the box

Since they rely on special NPC behaviour

[fluid nimbus]

doesn't a lot of HL1 rely on NPC behaviour

especially the intro

[torpid agate]

Ye that was a big part of the selling point

[modest imp]

Tons of scripted sequences. Tons and tons.

[ancient depot]

Not enough for it to be unplayable in Dusk after we've added more entities

[hallow fern]

Possibly dumb question-- for point entities, I just drop them in and change the classname, right?

[fluid nimbus]

kk

[ancient depot]

Correct

[hallow fern]

Thanks!

[torpid agate]

How do we flip launch pads again? It’s a property you set right?

[ancient depot]

Yeah, euler

[graceful hinge]

That, 0 90 0

[ancient depot]

Takes the form of x y z, just like origin

[torpid agate]

That’s what it is. I’m such an idiot. I was typing eula lmfao

[modest imp]

end user launchpad agreement

[torpid agate]

Ye I know

[modest imp]

you don't actually own the jump pad, you're just licensed to use it

[gritty forge]

Imagine being stalked by Big John the entire HL opening

[fluid nimbus]

he does all of gman's animations & scripted events but every voice line is just a random big john line

[gritty forge]

Who made such beautiful decision?

[hallow fern]

Counterpoint: Big John in place of Alyx in HL2

You get cornered by Combine, you think you're done for, as you black out you hear "YAHHAHA. COME ON!"

[iron needle]

looool

[fluid nimbus]

big john in place of alyx in HL alyx

[gritty forge]

The scene where the whatever they are called zapping aliens revive Alyx

[fluid nimbus]

your only gun is a big low poly gatling

vortigaunts

[gritty forge]

Big John: AHAHAHAH BIG JOHN!!!

[ebon jetty]

so i want to make sure i understand

light is now working correctly?

[fluid nimbus]

big john leans over alyx and whispers to her ear
"haha come on kill me"

[turbid glade]

Where can I find the Quake bsp files and texture files?

[gritty forge]

If you own the game

You have them

[turbid glade]

I do own it

[gritty forge]

Otherwise you will not get recommendations for pirated content

[long anchor]

@ebon jetty nah

[fluid nimbus]

just search ".bsp" in the quake folder

[gritty forge]

He does not have the game

[turbid glade]

I do tho

[fluid nimbus]

is quake not shareware now? or only doom

[gritty forge]

Oh sorry in my mind I saw a not

My bad

[ebon jetty]

quaddicted or you can use tools to take apart eaceh pak

i did the latter

[turbid glade]

I see

[long anchor]

Dukie Nukie? that's vinesauce stuff, right?

[fluid nimbus]

yeah get a tool to open pak

[ebon jetty]

there's some stuff though that i had to find online because i couldn't find it

[odd nova]

PakScape Works well

[fluid nimbus]

no the vinesauce thing is dook nook ken

iirc

[gritty forge]

Where is Duke Canukem?

[fluid nimbus]

duke gottem

[turbid glade]

Dukie Nukie is from Pain Holes videos

[long anchor]

ok

[fringe nymph]

come to brazil motherfucker

[long anchor]

oh god

[turbid glade]

Mother trucker

[fluid nimbus]

you wanna come to my bar

[long anchor]

cursest idea

let's make bonzi buddy mod

[fluid nimbus]

I do wonder if mr vsauce will play the sdk when there's enough maps out

and how many vinesauce references will be in them

[hallow fern]

doop noopem

i'm here to shit

[long anchor]

dick kickem

[turbid glade]

Duck Nuckem

[modest imp]

Weird question. How tall is Duskdude in Quake map units?

[fluid nimbus]

replacing all of the voice lines for everything ever by vinny screams

[hallow fern]

I'm about to find out

hopefully the same height lmao

[long anchor]

@modest imp bit less than 96

[fluid nimbus]

replace big john's lines by vinny's own shitty arnold lines

[modest imp]

So would 96 map units be a good measurement for average human height while editing?

[long anchor]

i don't know

i mean

have you seen my map? and boxes in it?

like the giant ones?

they are 96 tall

[iron needle]

Oh, quick warning: a hotfix we're gonna release soon fixes some map scaling issues so your maps might be bigger than before

Not by much

[modest imp]

I'm thinking of throwing together a mapper's reference WAD, with player height references, but I wanted to make sure I got it right before I did that.

[long anchor]

and they're just about the same height as DD

[fringe nymph]

irc Quake is like 1/5 smaller in scale compared to dusk

[long anchor]

@iron needle that's nice cool thing

[fringe nymph]

at least zombie said so before release

[long anchor]

i hope it won't be too bad for my map or else i'll lose like 30 hours of work lol

[ancient depot]

Quake is actually like 32x larger than Dusk

We scale things down massively when we load them in

[fringe nymph]

oh

[turbid glade]

Is Dusk Dude a manlet tho?

[fringe nymph]

thats a plot twist

[ancient depot]

The current build on Steam scales maps down by 35.5555555556x

[fluid nimbus]

give us a way to turn off the downscaling
I want to play rat quake

[ancient depot]

The new patch will scale down by 32x

[long anchor]

oof

[fringe nymph]

rip current maps

[fluid nimbus]

big quake

[fringe nymph]

[long anchor]

ok we'll see

at least we potantially can have a big laugh

[hallow fern]

Every time you shoot the map scales up by 32x

good luck

[modest imp]

every map is now behind zee bookcase

[fluid nimbus]

every time you shoot the volume get ever so slightly louder

and bass boosted

[long anchor]

someone said bass boost?

[hallow fern]

Loaded up my first map, this guy doesn't seem so happy:

https://imgur.com/a/NHspI2C

[long anchor]

sad boi

[fluid nimbus]

he sittin

[hallow fern]

Leatherneck in the test map

[long anchor]

he protec

[hallow fern]

what will he saw

[long anchor]

he attac

but most importantly

he sit in untextured brus

[hallow fern]

Which is actually my next thing to work out

I got the wad into trenchbroom but I think I messed up the compile

[long anchor]

do you have palette.lmp?

if not

[fluid nimbus]

untextured brus

[hallow fern]

Ahhhh thanks

[long anchor]

google quake palette, download it and place in mod root

[fluid nimbus]

yeah textures wont load without palette

palette is pinned I think

[long anchor]

untextured brus
untextured bruh

nah wad is pinned

[hallow fern]

untextured bruh moment

[ancient depot]

Note that palette.lmp is only needed if:
The texture is embedded in a Quake 1 BSP or a BSP2
Or the texture is inside a WAD2 format WAD

For HLBSP and WAD3 you don't need a palette file

[hallow fern]

Oh yeah I'm using Q1

[long anchor]

how about pinning these messages? @ancient depot

[ancient depot]

I'd rather do a proper writeup later and pin that

hell we need to get a modding wiki together

[long anchor]

alright

[hallow fern]

I think there's a pin kinda close to it too

[modest imp]

Is TrenchBroom capable of using HLBSP tools? 🤔

[ancient depot]

Should be

It supports valve220 format maps

[gritty forge]

what if we revived the old dusk wiki

[modest imp]

Oh, excellent. I've been using Quake tools this entire time.

[hallow fern]

Also I appreciate how helpful y'all are