dusk-modding

[long anchor]

erm

what your sign is then?

[acoustic hedge]

thin geometry

[half vessel]

uh

[long anchor]

so it's brush

[half vessel]

yeah

[acoustic hedge]

whoops

lol

[long anchor]

i really like how these flipped lamps look

[acoustic hedge]

nice

[peak trellis]

This looks really good lighting wise

nice

[long anchor]

there's a texture called "i_dunno" lol

[peak trellis]

tiny pistol

[long anchor]

thanks

tiny weapon for better view

i don't really like when weapons take too much space on the screen

[surreal canopy]

Giant pistol

[long anchor]

bruh

[tulip crown]

Is there any reason why I wouldn't want to use the SDK now if my goal is to make a map pack with custom textures and fully-polished environments? Is anything broken right now that would inhibit that

[acoustic hedge]

Some lighting issues on objects

[long anchor]

many things don't work properly so i suggest doing basic geometry

[sharp trail]

@long anchor those lamps look SHARP as heck

[tulip crown]

I'll probably hold off for a bit then, thanks for the heads up!

[long anchor]

np

that's an object/prefab, can't do anything about it

@ancient depot another texture mimic

[sharp trail]

All these mappers getting me hyped up.

[mortal narwhal]

do we have to make our own dusk texture wad, or is it in the sdk folder somewhere?

[acoustic hedge]

a dusk wad is pinned

[long anchor]

i can't see it in pinned tho

nvm found it

[mortal narwhal]

thx

[acoustic hedge]

yw

[tulip crown]

Is there support for testing maps within Dusk without exporting them and loading them ingame?

Like how JACK allows you to launch a Quake map by hitting F7, IIRC

[long anchor]

nope

though

[acoustic hedge]

you have to compile it into .bsp in order to play it in dusk

[long anchor]

you can place your bsp in maps folder, then launch dusk and then make changes safely

i just change something, recompile it and select my level again without closing the game

it pretty works

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/663096341278359553/GIRLY_MAN.mp4

i don't think this is going to embed

[long anchor]

downloading

want to see what crazy stuff you made this time

hmm

[half vessel]

sadly i can't replace some of those sounds

[long anchor]

i have a problem

i need boxes on my map as brushes

but we have proper box prop

[odd nova]

sorry if this is the 100th time asked, but does the SDK support Unreal/Tournament?

[long anchor]

but we don't have any box textures for brushes except the one that prop uses

literally no one asked this

and

probably no?

there's a list of supported games somewhere in pinned messages

[odd nova]

Ahh, been playing with things.... at least I can cheat https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/551193223314538514/663094495771885568/unknown.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/551193223314538514/663090511586000907/unknown.png

Quake 3 Versions

[half vessel]

huh

[long anchor]

@half vessel sadly volume is too low 😦

i can something tho

[half vessel]

i think that might be both

the recording

and me playing at !%

1%

lmao

[long anchor]

and what i can hear sounds noice

[half vessel]

i wish i could replace the alert noiess

noise jeez i can't spell today

[long anchor]

one day it will be possible...

[half vessel]

yes

and it will be a glorious day

[acoustic hedge]

god
i havent been using the brush tool until now
i feel dumb

[long anchor]

the day of all days

[winged wolf]

not gonna lie I straight up spent 3 hours trying to make these stairs not look like ass, I know they're not lined with the pillar but you can't really tell without wireframe lmao

https://i.imgur.com/hm2YOI2.png

[half vessel]

what've you been using if you're not using the brush tool?

[acoustic hedge]

just making geometry

i am dumb

[half vessel]

what

geometry is brushes?

[long anchor]

@winged wolf looks nice

[half vessel]

or does trenchbroom have something in it

[odd nova]

Half Life Alpha maps "Work" aswell https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/349694579668418588/662783489967652874/unknown.png

[elfin warren]

Question: when changing sounds, does the replacement file have to be the same length?

[acoustic hedge]

not using any brushes

just making wierd shapes

[half vessel]

i'm only familiar with source and its older brother

[acoustic hedge]

@winged wolf those stairs look really nice

[long anchor]

@odd nova """work"""

[mortal narwhal]

You guys should really watch these to git gud with trenchbroom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gONePWocbqA&list=PLgDKRPte5Y0AZ_K_PZbWbgBAEt5xf74aE

whoops thats not a playlist link

[long anchor]

ah, dumptruck

[half vessel]

does hammer experience transfer

i'd assume yes

[long anchor]

how can i say

[acoustic hedge]

id say yeah

[long anchor]

hammer stinks ass after you try trenchbroom

[half vessel]

i like hammer

it's terrible

[acoustic hedge]

trenchbroom is way easier to learn

[half vessel]

but the shittiness appeals to me

[mortal narwhal]

lol

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541580276179009558/663098857332408339/wendigo.mp4

here

this mp4'll work better

[acoustic hedge]

AUG
AUG
AUG
AUG

[long anchor]

i can watch right from discord now but it caches super slow for some reason

that gibbing sound

lmao

[acoustic hedge]

huuaahahah

[half vessel]

replacing the scare noise

with calling the player girly man and laughing

it doesn't work as well when i change the walk noise

[long anchor]

GIRLYMANGIRLYMANGIRLYMANGIRLYMANGIRLYMAN

hehe

[half vessel]

because the wendigo suddenly isn't scary when all you hear is "AUGH AUGH AUGH AUGH" whenever one's near

[long anchor]

should it even be scary when every enemy is john?

[acoustic hedge]

john deere

[gritty forge]

How about stock sounds for everything?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nBvVdJdCxdMDacM_y2PCd0fGOXd9Xjui Changed the pain sound. Tell me what you think.

[long anchor]

i think kick is too kicky

overall sounds nice

[gritty forge]

Just wanted to make it sound less like it came from some retro styled game.

Like 80's retro.

[acoustic hedge]

is there any way of playing music in custom levels right now?

[long anchor]

nope

[gritty forge]

I think I heard that you're not.

[long anchor]

do anyone know what property i should use to make jump pads work?

i tried speed 100 but it's not working

[acoustic hedge]

i know the guy that released 2 of his maps knows how

i forgot his name

[torpid agate]

Is the launchpad upside down?

[long anchor]

Vriska's his name

nope it's not upside down

it's placed pretty much as it should be

let me record rn

[torpid agate]

That’s weird idk

[hoary juniper]

you should pile 20 jumppads in one

[long anchor]

that sounds crazy

[hoary juniper]

it creates a cool sound

trust me :D

[long anchor]

uhhh

yolo

it sounds like fucking nuke

i like that

[hoary juniper]

Yup

xD

[long anchor]

-EARRAPE WARNING BEEP BEEP-

i wonder how it will sound with hundreds of them stacked

[acoustic hedge]

god that would sound horrible

[long anchor]

cursed

god be with me

[half vessel]

steam vent

[long anchor]

lol

it made fall through the floor

also for some reason it's not as loud

[hoary juniper]

https://youtu.be/tnVYF4_1Q24

Ancient NB video

[hoary juniper]

cool looking map though so far

[acoustic hedge]

thats a nice map

better looking than mine so far

[long anchor]

thanks thanks

[hoary juniper]

Hey, we all start somewhere

[acoustic hedge]

yeah i just havent touched lighting yet

[half vessel]

a big part is lighting

lighting helps so much

[long anchor]

@acoustic hedge practice more and yours will be just as nice

[hoary juniper]

focus on layouts before you add the detail

[odd nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/551193223314538514/663101970420203561/unknown.png Imma need some light for sure

[long anchor]

rn lights are bit problematic

[onyx marten]

hello everybody, i got a bit of a dumb question: if i wanna create a dusk map in trenchbroom, do i somehow need to get dusk into trenchbrooms game selection or what game should i select?

[long anchor]

i suggest selecting quake

[acoustic hedge]

just select quake and import the dusk.wad

for textures

[long anchor]

and adding dusk.wad

yeah

[acoustic hedge]

dusk.wad is pinned in this channel

[onyx marten]

alright imma try that, thank you!

[long anchor]

many nice things pinned actually, not only wad

np

[onyx marten]

yeah i already checked these, i just didnt know i even begin 😄

[long anchor]

yeah lights are indeed strange

[sharp trail]

Pretty sure dark places engine lights won‘t work with the sdk

[long anchor]

what do you mean

[iron needle]

@long anchor I can't check atm but I THINK the key for jump pad speed is "amount"

[long anchor]

ok

[iron needle]

Sorry I know we need to document all this lol

SOON

[long anchor]

yes, it's "amount"

[fringe nymph]

hope it will be way better documented than gzdoom

[long anchor]

wtf

even 10 is way to high

and vriska used 999

loool

[iron needle]

Yeah you're gonna want to go with low numbers lol

[long anchor]

it's 0.5 now

is it just me or textures for colored doorways are nonexistent

found this in textures folder

[hollow laurel]

awesome

[cosmic copper]

how are we supposed to do lighting that isnt fullbright? light entities work, but only illuminate individual brushes and leave weird dark spots everywhere

[long anchor]

lights are problematic currently

so dark spots are ok

well, they are not ok

but they're here

[cosmic copper]

ok. I keep seeing screenshots with actual lighting but I cant get it to look right. are people just doing fullbright but making it look good?

[long anchor]

i personally place many light entities

[half vessel]

@long anchor that's in thresher

in the secret with the tiny dopefish

it's so small you can't even tell what it is lmao

[long anchor]

@half vessel lol

so it looks like this

[half vessel]

looking good

[long anchor]

but it won't look as good as it is without object_light_post_1

[cosmic copper]

ah ok. Im probably having problems because im tryin to light a big area. are those all ~300

[long anchor]

and object_streetlight

yeah, 300 everywhere

[cosmic copper]

ok. Ill go through more thoroughly

[long anchor]

except for few ones that i use to get rid of pure blackness

one behind the box and another one.. somewhere

ok, it's 3 am for me

gotta sleep

gn everyone

[torpid agate]

C ya

[torpid agate]

That’s honestly my favorite I’ve seen so far

[half vessel]

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/1213562178088787969

El Oshcuro (@DaveOshry)

Yeah okay I take that all back. https://t.co/Ta38oojPCD

Twitter

[sharp trail]

People in here already making dope looking maps

[sturdy tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411070507140644864/663124065451769873/Dusk_2020-01-04_12-56-04.mp4

[hollow laurel]

[lapis hare]

MY DAAAAAAAD KNOWS HIM

[hollow laurel]

(i've reached peak drunk level for mapping, playing guily pleasure music, time to lay some fucken roads)

well, path

[wooden pier]

after what the moders do, no one will be afraid of wendigo

[acoustic hedge]

just drag that folder into local and it will work

i made this map wierdly cause i was learning the tools as i made it. but its a start

[haughty cosmos]

I cant post a picture of it, but all my textures on my face panel in trenchbroom are black, i dont think its supposed to do that right?

[plain lantern]

List of levels I would like to see in dusk mods: Train Level, Plane Level, Moving cars level, Burning building level, Subway level, Level inside like a skyscraper and you can look over a city.

[small gate]

a level entirely on sewers

[modern onyx]

level inside a skyscraper

now I gotta do die hard: dusk edition

DUSK hard

[plain lantern]

That's literally one of the reasons why I loved Ion Fury was because it had a lot of like, urban skyscrapers and verticality.

[hollow laurel]

black texture problem.... uh

tries to recall recent things

i did get that issue trying to kerjigger my maps into using the dusk profile i made (in preparation for the official fgd and such)

[plain lantern]

Wait also space levels

[hollow laurel]

spess

[plain lantern]

Space Stations or space ships its fine I like to look out into space

[haughty cosmos]

it would be easier to explain if i could send the picture, but i guess i dont got the perms for it i suppose

[plain lantern]

Also if they have a part where the ship gets breached and enemies get sucked out that would be cool

I always really like that

[hollow laurel]

you can upload it to imgur

and post link

i'm trying to backtrack what i did

[plain lantern]

Also boat levels

Like on the ocean

And underwater levels

[haughty cosmos]

http://prntscr.com/qjf45j

[hollow laurel]

yeah, mostly thinking about configs, where the files are at and such

[haughty cosmos]

Do i need to have quake installed?

[hollow laurel]

for starters, what profile did you use in trenchbroom?

not really

[haughty cosmos]

i just used Quake 1, and loaded the wad

[hollow laurel]

ok

[lunar shale]

ive had that happen to me

[hollow laurel]

gimme a bit

[plain lantern]

I should make a level pack where its all just levels that take place on vehicles and your never not on a moving vehicle

[lunar shale]

give me a sec ill help

[plain lantern]

Like you start and your on a moving car highway type level

[lunar shale]

i got this entire thing https://github.com/jonathanlinat/quake-leveldesign-starterkit

[plain lantern]

And then you jump on to a moving train level at the end

[lunar shale]

really good shit

download, unpack into folder

[plain lantern]

And then you jump onto a boat level

[lunar shale]

make a folder called id1 inside the folder you just made

make a gfx folder with the quake palette found here (inside of id1) https://quakewiki.org/wiki/File:quake_palette.zip

[plain lantern]

You know what I mean? So all the levels are just on moving vehicles

Just big planes and boats and trains

[lunar shale]

and try again

the maps should save though

[hollow laurel]

so, from the looks of it.... i set my custom game profile up to just use a palette.lmp in the base folder, the quake config puts it in /gfx/ under that

so, if you set stuff up, under mnt/local/, make a gfx folder and stick the palette.lmp there

as in, the quake one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586508960128040961/663032696175460372/palette.lmp

if you don't have it

[lunar shale]

personally i did it like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546002895502311435/663134426871627804/unknown.png

[hollow laurel]

o_o

[lunar shale]

and id1 looks like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/546002895502311435/663134613551579146/unknown.png

and inside gfx is the quake palette

[hollow laurel]

wads in the absolution folder, .7z is the bsp's i upped yesterday :p

[lunar shale]

i dont use most of the things in the dusk dev folder

it just comes packed with the github archive i linked above

[hollow laurel]

but, i am also leet

:p

mostly did that to keep trenchbroom tidy

[lunar shale]

i use quake 1 with the game path set to the dusk dev folder

the textures appear, the level works and it loads into dusk

[hollow laurel]

i just basically copied the quake profile stuff to another folder, chucked over an image for icon

yeah, whatever works :3

it's just how i like things :3

[lunar shale]

i spent like days trying to figure this thing out honestly but thats just because im stupid

[hollow laurel]

well, probably not, since you figured it out

[haughty cosmos]

so what should i set the profile directory to? Its cut off on your screenshot

[hollow laurel]

just experience with stuff and so

oh

hmm

you haven't started making a map proper yet?

(just checking)

[haughty cosmos]

Ive made a testing one for export sake, but no textures or models worked. Im just making sure im doing this right

[hollow laurel]

okay

yeah

[modern onyx]

I- uhm, are absolute noob questions okay here?

[hollow laurel]

just wanting to check troubleshooting steps

[lunar shale]

i think we are all noobs at this so yeah

[hollow laurel]

well, yeah, though i'm busy with helping deerby :p

[modern onyx]

I want to make a map for dusk and I don't know where should I start

[hollow laurel]

you could try going into %appdata%/trenchbroom and unzipping this there

[haughty cosmos]

take your time, im just tryna get a grasp on things

[hollow laurel]

it's my trenchbroom profile

for dusk

[haughty cosmos]

alright, ill see how that works out real quick

[faint summit]

For some reason flushing this toilet doesn't create the pit

[hollow laurel]

you might need to delete it later, but, it sorta works

[lunar shale]

if you want to start with dusk map making

[hollow laurel]

you need to stick the palette file in....

[lunar shale]

personally i tried this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gONePWocbqA

[faint summit]

Also i tried changing the explosion sound

[hollow laurel]

/mnt/local

[faint summit]

but it's still the same

[modern onyx]

do I have to use trencbroom? wouldn't that be loading a quake map technically?

[lunar shale]

its like

[hollow laurel]

trenchbroom is the nicest to work with imo

[lunar shale]

no problem

[hollow laurel]

but, anything that farts out a quake/half-life bsp will work

[lunar shale]

dusk opens custom maps with the bsp file extension

[haughty cosmos]

tbh i was amazed at how nice it is for its age. And i thought hammer was good

[modern onyx]

what I'm trying to ask is, does DUSK have its own mapping tools?

[hollow laurel]

well, trenchbroom is still being developed

no

[lunar shale]

nope

[tight fractal]

no

[modern onyx]

trenchbroom it is then, thanks

[hollow laurel]

it's trenchbroom, or anything that puts out a bsp/hlbsp/q3bsp/bsp2

[tight fractal]

we arent gonna do what someone is doing better

[hollow laurel]

yeah

[faint summit]

so did I change the wrong sound for the explosion?

[lunar shale]

you can go for all kinds of programs though not just trenchbroom

hammer works

[tight fractal]

as long as it creates a bsp format you can use it

[hollow laurel]

they just need to lead up to compiling to a proper file

[lunar shale]

yeah

[hollow laurel]

my map i started with worldcraft

[faint summit]

Also why is it when i flush the toilet in crypt of the flesh, it doesn't make the pit

[hollow laurel]

in an eldritch config (where i had to have it installed in c:/worldcraft/)

[onyx marten]

so another noob question, how do i get dusk entities into trenchbroom? i got dusk textures but only quake entities..

[hollow laurel]

currently they translate stuff over, a proper fgd will be released

so you can see and place stuff properly

say, the shotgun zombie dude from quake becomes the regular machine gun soldier in dusk

fiend for some reason becomes chainsaw dude

which is quite the downgrade :p

nailgun becomes machine gun

hmm

ogre becomes the scarecrow

[onyx marten]

alright, thanks :3 so if i put in the nailgun and run the map in dusk its a machine gun?

[hollow laurel]

that's from what i remember while testing my ported map

yep

[onyx marten]

alright, then imma go on and try to wrap my head around compiling 😄

[hollow laurel]

also, going out for a smoke, but if things don't work for you @haughty cosmos you can at me in.... say five minutes

[gritty forge]

If anyone decides to do Doom in Dusk, DO NOT be lazy and just use sprites... Make models!

[half vessel]

there's an entity list

somewhere

[haughty cosmos]

aight

[half vessel]

might be pinned

[hollow laurel]

there's an entity.txt in the dusk sdk folder

[gritty forge]

Sprite characters don't look good in an engine that was made for 3D models.

[hollow laurel]

which explains some stuff

well, thing i posted has my current compilation profile for dusk, could download and have a look

anyhow, need nicotine

[gritty forge]

Look at the Ys titles, there are sprite characters and 3D bosses... They don't blend together too well.

[onyx marten]

gonna try your profile thx

[gritty forge]

@hollow laurel. No, you don't need nicotine. You crave it.

You gotta avoid that craving.

I feel like the ranking system is busted right now, and I am losing my patience and my mind... I just wanna show you guys some sound effects without having to deal with uploading them into my drive with limited space.

I can't afford increasing the amount of space.

[hollow laurel]

back, and i know, i've tried quitting before :p

[gritty forge]

Keep trying.

Nicotine is no good, bro.

[hollow laurel]

i know

[gritty forge]

Heroine is even worse. It killed my older brother at 26.

[tight fractal]

you literally just got rat, @gritty forge

[hollow laurel]

anyhow, also, if you already have a map and want to switch profile, you can open the .map up and edit it to fix it

fucking hell

yeah

[half vessel]

all this modding

[hollow laurel]

also drugs now

[half vessel]

i've been playing on i can take it

because it doesn't make me confirm

[gritty forge]

Wow! Okay. That came outta just me crying about it... The system felt bad for me.

[half vessel]

so it's faster to get into a level

and man

it's so easy

[fluid nimbus]

the dusk trenchbroom profile/fork isn't out yet right

[half vessel]

on cero miedo

you can take like 3 hits

on i can take it?

like 20

also what is the wailing sound i keep hearing

[gritty forge]

Here is an HD Quake jumping sound effect for you all to use for mods.

[hollow laurel]

yeah

[fluid nimbus]

check your basement

[hollow laurel]

i just use a custom i did

for the moment

thought just struck me that in case people want to switch what stuff trenchbroom looks for...

digs up old .map

[fringe nymph]

If anyone decides to do Doom in Dusk, DO NOT be lazy and just use sprites... Make models!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240432519990738944/654095066901774394/unknown.png

there ya go

[hollow laurel]

zap

also bloom

anyhow

trenchbroom seems to read those first commented lines for internal use

that's comparing the current map1 i have to the old one

in the .map files

[half vessel]

now i should see if i can change EVERY hit noise to the quake 3 one

[haughty cosmos]

aight, havin a few issues redoing some of the directories that crossed over from your profile. My trenchbroom didnt come with a qbsp.exe file

[gritty forge]

Make better models more fit for the artstyle.

[hollow laurel]

okay

so, you need the tools i guess, if it isn't in /utils under the trenchbroom dir?

[haughty cosmos]

http://prntscr.com/qjfe1p

this is all i got

[hollow laurel]

https://github.com/ericwa/ericw-tools/releases

i just have those under /utils in my trenchbroom dir

as in

so just get the latest release from the github page and you should be good

[gritty forge]

Made it sound more realistic.

Less video-gamey.

[hollow laurel]

techno remix when?

[gritty forge]

I dunno.

SoonTM?

[hollow laurel]

yay

[gritty forge]

Lol

[hoary heath]

hey I wanted to try out them tools myself but I need quick help with trenchbroom

[gritty forge]

Fixed this one. No longer clips, which caused that clicking sound.

[haughty cosmos]

aight, i can get it to compile and launch. But im still havin the texture and model issue. Ive got the pallete file but it doesnt wanna find it. Any direct file path i can set for it?

[hollow laurel]

the path to the palette file is relative to the root of where you set as game dir

so...

[gritty forge]

Recovered this one from the Sound Ideas Library. It's a rock splashing into water.

[haughty cosmos]

you said just to put it in local, so idk

[hollow laurel]

yeah, just you need to set the game path in the preferences in trenchbroom

[haughty cosmos]

so thats set to local right? It isnt cut off or anything

[hollow laurel]

yeah, local

[hoary heath]

keep the map format to hexen 2 or change to valve?

[gritty forge]

Brightened this one.

[hollow laurel]

configure engines thing is for launching game via trenchbroom, so no need to bother with that now

hexen2 i think is quake 2 based?

so, won't work

[gritty forge]

Hexen2 is Quake 1.

[hoary heath]

gotcha!

[hollow laurel]

ah

well, could work then

[haughty cosmos]

http://prntscr.com/qjfghz

nice, thats one problem down

[hollow laurel]

wee

[hoary heath]

I dont even get a choice on quake 2
so its right

[gritty forge]

You can tell, since it has the Quake weapon bobbing animation.

[haughty cosmos]

it still cant find the models tho, if thats a problem

[hollow laurel]

haven't played hexen 2 ever :p

well, the model's won't display yet

[hoary heath]

good

[gritty forge]

Neither have I, only seen videos.

[haughty cosmos]

aight, just checking

[hollow laurel]

since that needs a configured fgd

so, now it's just the quake names

for stuff

[iron needle]

@gritty forge please don't spam the channel with files. Either put them in a mod and show everyone when it's done or group them into a zip file.

[haughty cosmos]

thanks for the help Tosoth, i appreciate it

[hoary heath]

real men play doom in 180x180

[hollow laurel]

np dude

[gritty forge]

I was hoping for feedback, okay.

[hollow laurel]

though, a work in progress channel would be neat

[alpine depot]

is music replacement broken or something currently? trying to replace some music with "high-quality" midi conversions but it doesnt seem to work in-game

[hollow laurel]

as in, a place to link stuff you want feedback on

i have no clue how it handles music at the moment, think it might be via triggers who'll be in the proper fgd

[torpid agate]

@alpine depot I don’t think you can replace music yet.

[alpine depot]

shiiiit

[hollow laurel]

ah

[iron needle]

@hollow laurel it's perfectly fine to post in progress stuff here but we don't need dozens of separate sound files being posted one after another

[hollow laurel]

ah, okay

[iron needle]

Would be better if they were all in a zip file or if he shared the mod at a milestone

[ebon jetty]

Hey David, is the DLL pinned a newer version than the one that added the euler property? (the one zombie shared before)

[iron needle]

I'm not sure

[ebon jetty]

ok

[iron needle]

Sorry

[ebon jetty]

i'll ask him later i think he's sleeping

i forget

[iron needle]

Yeah he slep. Right now

[hollow laurel]

think that one is newer than what you get in steam

[ebon jetty]

i have a newer dll than the one in the initial steam release

i don't know if that's newer than the version i have though

[onyx marten]

@hollow laurel so i unpacked your profile into the trenchbroom folder, how do i go on from there?

[hollow laurel]

oh

should be unpacked into %appdata%/trenchbroom

so it complies with docs

[onyx marten]

oh ok thank you

[hollow laurel]

%appdata% goes to roaming where trenchbroom keeps that stuff, so easypeasy

then, well... set game dir in the profile to the /mnt/local dir

put the quake palette.lmp there

[tulip crown]

Does Dusk have its own entity file available, or can you only let the game autoconvert Quake entities at the moment?

[hollow laurel]

place wads in the dir where you have your /maps dir

it only autoconverts at this time

they're working on a proper fgd

[onyx marten]

alright thank you very much, it isnt too easy for me 😄

[hollow laurel]

no probs

well, some probs, but i am happy to help :p

think i spent more time helping people yesterday than mapping ._.

[onyx marten]

yeah i saw that over the last hour but we appreciate it :p

[haughty cosmos]

one question, how do i access the modding menu?

Im in the beta, but i cant find it to enable mods

[hollow laurel]

ah

you need to launch dusk via the steam library

not the quick menu

so you get the box to pick what to run

and there you pick dusk sdk

[haughty cosmos]

aye, thanks

[fringe nymph]

is there prepared dusk entity definition file

[iron needle]

Not yet

[fringe nymph]

or i am supposed to stick with quake entities

/HL ones

[iron needle]

There's a list of Dusk entities in the SDK folder, but you can also use some Quake/HL ones

Some aren't implemented yet

[fringe nymph]

ye ive got the list

[iron needle]

There will be a proper fdg soon

[haughty cosmos]

http://prntscr.com/qjfq6x

oh no

[torpid agate]

If that’s a quake map you need the palette.lmp file

[haughty cosmos]

nah it aint, ive already got the palette. I think i know what went wrong, lemme check

nah that wasnt it

http://prntscr.com/qjfsiz

hmm

it looks fine in the editor, it just doesnt wanna export right

[hollow laurel]

and nothing weird when you build bsp?

[haughty cosmos]

http://prntscr.com/qjfwi4

this is about my only guess

http://prntscr.com/qjfwo8

looks fine in editor

[hollow laurel]

that's odd, since the bsp compile should bake the stuff in

[ebon jetty]

is there a way to change the skybox

[rapid crown]

Only in Dusk, not irl

[haughty cosmos]

Where is the working folder and output folder defined? It might still have your locations and not mine

[hollow laurel]

lemme check

[ebon jetty]

so how do you change the skybox in trenchbroom

[hollow laurel]

check dirs in the compilation profile

since it would refer to where i keep the stuff:

[haughty cosmos]

It keeps spitting "SetQ2dirFromPath: failed to find in 'C:\Users\kyleb\Desktop\Folders\Trenchbroom\maps/test.bsp'--- ConvertTextures ---" at me

[hollow laurel]

hmm

[haughty cosmos]

theres a slash that isnt showing up because of discord

[hollow laurel]

that's fair

[haughty cosmos]

i removed the opposite slash in the directory, but it still shows up in console

[hollow laurel]

your game path in the preferences -> game path points to \Dusk\SDK\mnt\local ?

[haughty cosmos]

yeah

[hollow laurel]

because aside from the directories for compiling, and that dir, nothing is based on local data from what i can see

[haughty cosmos]

my wad is stored in trenchbroom, if that has anything to do with it

[hollow laurel]

my wads are in the mod dir for my maps

so, mnt/local/absolution for my stuff

[haughty cosmos]

http://prntscr.com/qjg24k

[hollow laurel]

yeah, that looks proper

[gritty forge]

Are the Hallowed Health and Powerup sounds separate?

[haughty cosmos]

do you store it inside of any more folders after that, or is it just directly into your mod folder

[hollow laurel]

it's like this

[haughty cosmos]

aight

ill give that a go

[hollow laurel]

aight

[haughty cosmos]

nah that didnt solve it

[hollow laurel]

shit

and it's a new map made from scratch using that profile?

[haughty cosmos]

i could try that if you want

[hollow laurel]

well, give it a shot, even if it's just a box with a spawn point and a light

[haughty cosmos]

yeah thats what i did

no dice

[hollow laurel]

shity

well, try using the base quake profile

if nothing shows up, make a /gfx dir under local for the palette

[haughty cosmos]

it says it loads the pallete just fine

[hollow laurel]

yeah

just thinking how the base quake profile looks for stuff

[haughty cosmos]

im relaunching dusk and seeing if that helps

[hollow laurel]

since it searches a /gfx dir for it

[haughty cosmos]

nope

[hollow laurel]

also, if you make a test map and stuff works, you can just copy geometry over

if it's the same map format (as in quake 1 bsp, hl bsp or so)

[haughty cosmos]

i put it under gfx and now it cant find palette

[hollow laurel]

if using the quake profile?

[haughty cosmos]

nah, ill try that

[hollow laurel]

yeah, that's why i mentioned that dir, since that's where trenchbroom looks for it

:3

worst case, copy paste wad and lmp to folders until stuff works

[haughty cosmos]

still cant

[hollow laurel]

did that earlier.... just that i'm way too drunk and tired to recall how i got it working

[haughty cosmos]

its aight

[torpid agate]

Can you dm me the bsp?

Or the .map if it’s a problem with compiling

[haughty cosmos]

it exports geometry and entities just fine, just never the textures

[cosmic copper]

is it normal for brushes to be completely black if they're just slightly out of range of a light? like if the brightness is 300 and the brush is 350 away, its pitch black?

[haughty cosmos]

might be the lighting issues, black areas are common rn

[hollow laurel]

lights are off at the time

as in weird

[cosmic copper]

ok. because its absolutely everything that isnt right next to a light. if a brush is close enough to be lit, it has an obvious glowing patch

[hollow laurel]

i don't think there's a fullbright thing yet, so.... chuck light entities around (unless someone has a better idea)

and just work on geometry

[cosmic copper]

ok

[hollow laurel]

and, well, try to imagine flow

for level

[haughty cosmos]

http://prntscr.com/qjgjlw

ive tried everything. This is gettin kinda dumb

[gritty forge]

Wow! I didn't think the zip would be 41.2 MB... Geez, Dave. Haven't you heard of ADPCM?

So lemme make a link.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14iz8BURxzf6e5gIBK_-jQDMc2cq0tTHg/view?usp=sharing

[ebon jetty]

does anyone know how to texture tree stumps

[mortal narwhal]

can you launch Dusk with trenchbroom and have it automatically load your map?

[cosmic copper]

does anyone know how to do sky?

also does fund_button do a DUSK-style button automatically or is it still a pushable quake-style one?

[iron needle]

func_button doesn't work yet but we're hoping to have it implemented this weekend

skies also don't work yet but that will be a future update

[cosmic copper]

ok. is there any way to do switch-opened doors or just the normal kind for now?

[gritty forge]

Sounds have a weird fade-in effect... Is this normal?

I heard that issue will be addressed later on.

So, it is an issue? Okay, making sure it wasn't my sound effects causing it.

[iron needle]

oh god

[fast ridge]

"Oh I got dead again, this game stinks"

[heavy sluice]

Monkey Dusk coming soon as soon as I figure out how to edit the textures and shit

[hoary juniper]

func_vehicle

[torpid agate]

func_cat support pls

[ebon jetty]

map progress

[honest stag]

so has anyone dropped any maps here while i was asleep

[ebon jetty]

not that i know of

my map isn't nearly complete

i have like 2 rooms

i've spent too much time on making buildings for a e s t h e t i c

[iron needle]

@ebon jetty looking good!

[ebon jetty]

the one problem i'm having is the texture for the tree stump

and also the bulldozer on the right for some reason is just pitch black

@iron needle thanks!

[alpine depot]

imgur links are fine right? i figure they are but im not sure if a bot is going to swoop in and grand slam space jam me

[ebon jetty]

nah as far as i know they're fine

you could always upload it on another discord

and then paste the discord image link here

[alpine depot]

eh whatever

[haughty cosmos]

http://prntscr.com/qjguse

@hollow laurel reinstalled trenchbroom and that fixed it

[hollow laurel]

yay

[haughty cosmos]

idk how, but i cant complain

[alpine depot]

https://imgur.com/a/0AOtZ1o """texture artist""" for hire here's my resume

[hollow laurel]

well, follows the line of restart -> reinstall -> reinstall windows :p

[alpine depot]

oh ok it embeds too

[hollow laurel]

anyhow, have fun

[haughty cosmos]

yup

exhausted as hell from it tho

[hollow laurel]

well, rest first then

and just think about stuff to do

if even that

[chrome wagon]

So, the fade in-sound is a known issue?
Ok, for a moment I thought it was my computer being old.

[keen bay]

Kay so I have a .map file I wanna edit, any suggestions on what to use to make it duskable?

[fringe nymph]

duskwhat

[gritty forge]

@fast ridge can you give Patrick a trombone like texture for the chainsaw and the revving sound as “is mayonnaise an instrument”

[hard pollen]

Traffic cone gang

[fast ridge]

I would

but I need the chainsaw for the Homer Simpson noises

[honest stag]

oh hey someone did link a map on moddb

[fiery garnet]

is there a dump of maps thatve been made so far or is whats on moddb all there is

[honest stag]

well the sdk only came out a couple days ago so most maps arent finished yet

[fiery garnet]

yee just wondering

it feels nice playing new dusk content

[iron needle]

https://twitter.com/MIITRIN/status/1213627593179705344?s=19

MIITRIN (@MIITRIN)

.@DUSKdev Just wanted to show someone my cool minecraft house hope you like it

Twitter

It was bound to happen

[honest stag]

lol that does look great tho

[tame pebble]

What did you mod exactly?

Looks the same

[fiery garnet]

why you posting minecraft screenshots in dusk mods

#gami_g

[iron needle]

oh lol I just noticed the trees

[ebon jetty]

that's an amazing tweet

[gritty forge]

What if https://images.app.goo.gl/8A97Br3Qa1pna2ms5

[fringe nymph]

minecraft house that isnt entirely made out of dirt blocks isnt a minecraft house

[alpine depot]

oh my god im not the only one replacing textures with minecraft ones

[fiery garnet]

has someone made a greentop in dusk yet

[hard pollen]

Oh no.

[alpine depot]

no they're all sad :(

[hard pollen]

Yeah :c

[fast ridge]

a simple one

[alpine depot]

i made it a mission of mine to make all the enemies smiling so the game can be deemed E10+

oh man i should make the rat texture invisible

[fast ridge]

Ratigos

[cosmic copper]

someone please change the rat model to the one from 3d movie maker AKA rat movie

[fast ridge]

Can't be done yet

[cosmic copper]

rats!

[honest stag]

textures can be tho

[fast ridge]

I did replace the sounds tho

and ye textures can

[alpine depot]

https://imgur.com/a/JKf5oy5 slowly but surely dusk becomes more and more unrecognizable

god i cant wait for when we're able to replace models

[cobalt atlas]

oh god

[alpine depot]

im most excited for when music replacement works so my midi conversion of the music can further terrorize the game

is it ironic that im putting so much effort into such an intentionally low-quality mod?

[quiet harness]

destroying the game is fun

[alpine depot]

games were made to be destroyed and turned into unholy abominations

[honest stag]

i just made progress on a map and accidently closed trenchbroom without saving changes

awww yissss

[quiet harness]

damn

i was thinking of replacing terrain textures with minecraft textures but damn everyones already done did it

[alpine depot]

im glad im not the only one to think of that

[hoary juniper]

Dusk now officially has both minecraft and MS paint graphics

[alpine depot]

great minds truly do think alike

im especially proud of what i did to nyarlathotep

he's even more hideous

[quiet harness]

dare i ask

[alpine depot]

https://twitter.com/4quat1c/status/1213637503896473600

Aqua (@4quat1c)

@DUSKdev uwu dusk dude chan

Twitter

ive barely scratched the surface of what im going to do to dusk

[half vessel]

i wonder if someone has extracted the 3dmm textures

[alpine depot]

if anyone voices every single sound effect with their voice please give me the files i will need them

[fringe nymph]

[cosmic copper]

@half vessel Ive seen some on the gmod workshop so I'm sure its possible

[gritty forge]

Remember when dave oshry said how DUSKs ending is basically hl1s ending?

Nylarthotep gman.

[alpine depot]

is dusk dude going to singlehandedly make an alien race extinct after 20 years?

[gritty forge]

Yes

[alpine depot]

dusk 2 story leak!

[solid isle]

I'm not much of a quake kid; how tf do skyboxes work/ how do I add them?
I understand to set it in map properties, but what do I use to define the actual sky brushes?

[lament ore]

So wait if you can't use non-Dusk textures in HL1 BSPs how are the videos with the Half-Life maps being done? Newer version of the SDK?

[solid isle]

apparently HL1 maps are compiled with textures

already

or most of them at least

you can technically use custom wads now I think

[iron needle]

ugh I feel like an idiot but... anyone in here have Quake e1m1 handy? I accidently replaced it with something else way back when we were testing and I forget where to get it lol

[lament ore]

yes but I am not a rat so I'll have to upload to gdrive

[iron needle]

@lament ore you remember where you got it from?

[lament ore]

The BSP right? I'm just ripping it from pak0 from my steam copy

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19MNB5r73uycJjx7_g5F0htpcwHuKJKIg

GCFScape supports the Quake pak files

[iron needle]

ahhh kk

thanks

[lament ore]

👍

[quiet harness]

lord forgive me

[lament ore]

@iron needle release the IQMs so I can make Dusk HD models coward

[iron needle]

SOON

[honest stag]

"hey it would be cool if i made a turning road haha cant be too bad ri-"
http://skrinshoter.ru/i/050120/WClQg1x4.png

[solid isle]

why did you do it like that lol

[honest stag]

because i suck at trenchbroom

[solid isle]

oof trenchbroom 🤢

[fringe nymph]

is this just dusk thing that theres huge gap between 0 and 1 worldmap light level

[solid isle]

i cant get this shit to work

[winged wolf]

dude vriska, bends/turns seem like they're so simple until you do them then like 6 hours goes by and you're like wtf

[honest stag]

skyboxes dont work yet

[solid isle]

oh that makes sense

[honest stag]

...and i have to make more of this road because i'm committed to the A E S T H E T I C S

[lament ore]

God I'm reeeeaalllly missing some of JACK's functions right about now

Trenchbroom is obviously super cool but I feel like it's missing some of the fundamentals

like why is it so hard to make a cylinder

[solid isle]

Why not just use JACK instead?

[lament ore]

Well I DO want to learn Trenchbroom

[solid isle]

nah im just saying
if you know JACK, what's the point of learning Trenchbroom?

[gritty forge]

Some point, I seek to replace Duskdude's player sounds with Caleb's sounds.

[lament ore]

Trenchbroom has way better tools for creating organic environments and allows direct editing of UVs with is incredibly useful

[solid isle]

interesting

[lament ore]

But like I said some of the missing fundamentals like non-rectangle shapes are a bit frustrating

[honest stag]

oh man the uv editor is such a blessing honestly

[lament ore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcapvEtA1so

This is just a mess

Your options are: free-hand a circle and extrude it, create a square and clip the edges, or create a diamond brush and duplicate and rotate it a bunch of times and merge it together

like bro

[honest stag]

wait what there is a complex brush tool in trenchbroom holy shit

[lament ore]

Yes it's great when you want to free-hand something

Not great when you just want to make a damn cylinder

It functions in a weird non-intuitive way too like I can't just click and place points it's......weird

I don't fully understand how it works yet

[honest stag]

looks back at the hand-made road
http://skrinshoter.ru/i/050120/jZQr94DJ.png

[unborn nimbus]

hey bread, how did you fix the issue with the palette.lmp not being found by trenchbroom

[lament ore]

Yes, put it in the Dusk folder and make sure your wad is added to trenchbroom as absolute path]

relative path or any of the other options won't work

@honest stag yeah that's a good candidate for the brush polygon tool lol

[unborn nimbus]

ah got it. Thanks

[lament ore]

Is palette.lmp GPL? Would be nice if it was just distributed with the SDK

@iron needle

Actually it's in pak0 so I assume not

Wonder if we could just create our own version that can be distributed

[iron needle]

@lament ore I don't think it is, which is why we can't distribute it

[lament ore]

Makes sense. Honestly we should just create our own "open" BSP format

[small gate]

@lament ore https://quakewiki.org/wiki/Quake_palette#palette.lmp

you don't even need that much effort, just use meltslime's code

[lament ore]

I already have palette.lmp thx tho. Maybe that link should be pinned tho

Meltslime?

[small gate]

it's code to generate a facsimile of the palette.lmp file

just doing a follow up to your idea

[honest stag]

hey uhhhh anyone knows what the name for the "you're not supposed to be here" texture is

i need it

[iron needle]

Wonder if we could just create our own version that can be distributed hmmm I'm not sure, but that would be great if possible

[quiet harness]

https://twitter.com/Sinisterplasm/status/1213653156107837441

Sinisterectoplasm (@Sinisterplasm)

Time, Mr. @DUSKdev ?

Twitter

the SDK is a curse blessing

[honest stag]

[cosmic copper]

does anyone know how to texture the objects? specifically the pew. Right now its all white

[tulip crown]

I'm so confused at Trenchbroom defaulting to that weird 3D polyedit mode instead of a traditional series of 2D windows with draggable vertices

It does have that, right

(I use J.A.C.K. after Trenchbroom weirded me out a couple years back, haven't looked back since)

[cosmic copper]

yeah I cant remember how to get it

[iron needle]

@cosmic copper there's a bug with lighting on certain objects

[alpine depot]

i feel so accomplished, david and dave have witnessed my terrible creations

[lament ore]

@iron needle https://quakewiki.org/wiki/Quake_palette#palette.lmp there's C code on this wiki page that will generate a nearly identical one that should be totally under your ownership

But also according to that page Carmack put the file in the public domain but there's no citation

[iron needle]

@lament ore would be best to talk to @ancient depot about that

since he's ther mastermind

I merely do his bidding

[honest stag]

basketball cross
http://skrinshoter.ru/i/050120/tk10cpfW.png

basketball cross

[tulip crown]

I probably won't bother going all out with mapping until some things are tidied up, but here's a (2.5 year old!) custom map I made back when the SDK was still in its infancy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeWCk3ZZCZg

Hence the quake textures... plan on remaking it when MP support is added

[honest stag]

oh hey i actually remember this map

[tulip crown]

The whole map is a figure 8 shape, and I was planning on having the edge be surrounded by a tree canopy like the ones in Redneck Rampage/Blood

[lament ore]

What's the equivalent to trigger_hurt in Dusk?

@ancient depot

[iron needle]

nothing quite yet, but trigger_hurt will be implemented

In fact I might be able to do that tonight, if I don't pass out from back pain first lol

[lament ore]

I believe in you dusk man

[quiet harness]

quick question, is the title on the menu an image and if it is, what's the file name? I changed logo_dusk and put it in SDK\mnt\local\custom folder\textures but that doesn't seem to be it

[honest stag]

hey what does fund_plat do?

[quiet harness]

another thing, i changed the award textures (award_bronze, award_silver, etc.) and put them in SDK\mnt\local\custom folder\textures but they dont show up on the episode maps

[iron needle]

I'm unsure if UI switching is in yet. I thought it was but I think I saw Zombie say it wasn't

[quiet harness]

darn

gotta add that to the list of "unholy abominations to make"

[iron needle]

lol

I shudder to think of what you're planning

[quiet harness]

huehuehue

i love dusk but holy moly i intend to destroy it beyond recognition

[still raptor]

UI replacements are not yet in

[small gate]

no better way to show your admiration for a game than to shitpost all over it

[iron needle]

^^^

[lament ore]

OH YEAH

@iron needle @ancient depot please PLEASE add a "parent" property for all entities (other than worldspawn) that allows us to set the unity parent constraint

The lack of this is a HUGE limitation in old Quake-derived games

[fringe nymph]

ill desecrate dusk by making quality maps for it

[quiet harness]

you monster

[small gate]

how could you

[lament ore]

desecrate dusk with good textures

[torpid agate]

I don’t think that’s allowed

[lament ore]

@iron needle @ancient depot https://i.imgur.com/64sZPce.png

This, if you're not familiar

Allows you to set the parent of game object transforms without breaking heirarchy

If you don't give us a parent property to set on entities it won't be (easily) possible to do things like put doors on trains or anything else that requires an entity to move with another entity

[gritty forge]

Time to make the first dusk terry wad

[weak vessel]

Ugh shit

lol

[fringe nymph]

whats the matter

[weak vessel]

Haha nothing

actually I love everything so far

this is too fun

[iron needle]

@lament ore noted

[hard pollen]

Func_reloading.

[viscid sinew]

Yes but

Func_gami_g.

[crystal lily]

I've actually got like hundreds of hours on hammer(Hl2) but I'm still terrible at it

[fringe nymph]

i dont think this is how lightning works

[honest stag]

lol my game almost crashes when i launch my map
help

[fringe nymph]

stop placing yeet cannons

start with that

[gritty forge]

Y’know

People are gonna have fun retexturing the bone balls.

[alpine depot]

oh man i went nuts retexturing it

i slapped a bunch of smiley faces and splattered random colors on it, it looks like a small child opened ms paint and threw the mouse out the window

[quiet harness]

holy i am unsure as to how ill retexture the leatherneck

[tired garden]

Kinda hard if you ask

[lament ore]

the moment the full SDK is out I'm gonna go buck wild and make a small campaign

[quiet harness]

i have a great idea for what ill retexture them as but the way the texture, it might be a hot minute

[regal sparrow]

Diapers: 100

pfff hahaha

[honest stag]

alright so
i'm a very impatient person so while i'm waiting for the approval on moddb - here is the small part of my future episode
the layout, monsters and all that stuff is pretty much done, but i'm waiting for more patches to add more details and juicy stuff like lighting + one of the secret items is falling through the celling for some reason
map first is my first ever map - it's rough and sucks
map crash resembles what i want to see in the future, it's tight on ammo (without secrets) and it's intended (kinda)
(play in that order)

inspired a LOT by episode 2

i would post screenshots but i dont want to spam

[cosmic copper]

I'm giving it a shot!

[alpine depot]

oh man i forgot to give anime nyarlathotep some makeup so he looks even more kawaii

you guys think this is enough for nyarla-chan?

[fringe nymph]

cease

[small gate]

nyarla is more of a tsundere

@honest stag good boss, and good job with just how much you improved from first to crash

[honest stag]

lol thanks
first honestly sucks
it's the same map which i used for my first ever experiment with trenchbroom which is still there in form of the first room

[small gate]

I think the biggest feedback I've got is jeez make the doors faster

[honest stag]

you're probably right
but the factory entrance doors are staying slow tho

i wanted it to be kinda dramatic but there's no sound so it looks silly
i hope it's implemented soon

[small gate]

fair enough

[chrome wagon]

@alpine depot now we need wendigo-chan =P

[fringe nymph]

cool as proof of concept @honest stag

[honest stag]

ey thanks

[ebon jetty]

@honest stag is it first then crash im assuming

[honest stag]

yep

[chrome wagon]

This is the first time on so many levels...
Dusk sdk managed me to want to give quake mapping a try =P

Gotta say, the dumptruck tutorials are quite good.

Also, i don't know if this feedback was given, but each time you open a map, all of your mod's are activated regardless of your previous settings.

[honest stag]

already looks nice!

[solid isle]

Here's what I got so far

[honest stag]

instantly recognized as you tuned the corner

[chrome wagon]

Very good so far.

[solid isle]

Would have had this much done an hour earlier if I hadn't ran into a compiler bug

gonna try to get the next room done before I stop for the night

[last berry]

this is a kinda dumb question, but how do I open a bsp to add in dusk entities? I feel like there's another interface than trenchbroom I'm missing

[solid isle]

cant wait for sounds so I can stuff IDKFA into it

[regal sparrow]

that's how is done.

[fringe nymph]

eww idkfa

just use prerecorded sc55 ones

[solid isle]

if you're asking what I think you're asking, you just rename entities atm
there's no fgd file I don't think

[last berry]

oh

[solid isle]

check the pin for the .txt file containing all the current supported entities

this is how it's done in JACK

place an entity, and then rename it

[honest stag]

in trenchbroom it's the same

[solid isle]

and it just works

[last berry]

unrelated problem, for some reason point lights just aren't saving in maps

[honest stag]

are you compiling light?

[last berry]

like even when opening them in quake

[honest stag]

light needs to be compiled along with the bsp

[iron needle]

dat e1m1

[fringe nymph]

lights are broken anyway

[last berry]

I have light checked off. I go back into trenchbroom and the point lights have dissapeared

[fringe nymph]

for dusk i mean

[tired garden]

Man I would like to do maps but im such a newbie in setting up that kind of stuff

[last berry]

and I'm positive it was saved

[solid isle]

Was gonna just decompile the DOOM E1M1 made for deathmatch, but that map sucked so fucking bad

just a relentlessly stupid amount of brushes everywhere

[tired garden]

Is that even counted as map?

[solid isle]

also what's with the wacked out lightmaps?

[honest stag]

light is fucked rn

[ebon jetty]

^

[solid isle]

it's like there's a hard value each unit needs and it defaults to either or

[ebon jetty]

@honest stag i keep forgetting is the dusk entities that are white (no texture) fixable or is it screwed up too right now

[honest stag]

some are, some arent

trashcans are white, roof of the shed is white, some machines are white

and more

as for a fix - probably not

[late forum]

so

is the sdk just maps and retextures for now?

[ebon jetty]

pretty much

there might be more i don't know about

[late forum]

just kinda waiting for scripting so I can do HUSK

[ebon jetty]

what's husk

hdusk

[late forum]

yup

[ebon jetty]

lmao

[late forum]

dusk is stylized DUSK

so

HDUSK sounds bad

hDUSK makes it sound like you are some 14 year old on twitter

HUSK sounds fitting

[small gate]

just call it FUCK and be done with it

[torpid agate]

@solid isle so are you recreating the doom map by hand? I tried one of those doom wad2map file decompiler and it was janky as hell.

[late forum]

@small gate nah mate gotta give youtubers their clicks

[solid isle]

yeah I'm just eyeballing it

[late forum]

btw are you guys using hammer for map editing?

[torpid agate]

Nice. Yeah those decompilers are cool but waaaay too many useless brushes

[solid isle]

but doing close comparisons so it's at least close

[honest stag]

people pretty much use whatever they want

[ebon jetty]

@late forum trenchbroom

[alpine depot]

yo i just replaced the sword sounds with the roblox sword sounds

[ebon jetty]

it's the recommended one

[late forum]

ah

[honest stag]

hammer,J A C K, trenchbroom

[solid isle]

Hammer doesn't work for Quake or HL1. If you want something like Hammer, use JACK

[tired garden]

@alpine depot Im proud of you

[honest stag]

hl1 bsp is supported tho so

[solid isle]

Source BSP and HL1 BSP aren't the same

[honest stag]

oh shit ok

[late forum]

I dont intend to deal with archaic software to build a dusk mod so the mapping side I'll pass on

[solid isle]

HL1 Worldcraft works too

[alpine depot]

im running out of ideas for changed weapon sound effects, do you guys have any inspiration lol

[solid isle]

JACK is literally like Hammer tho

unless you mean Hammer is archaic

[torpid agate]

Jack is nice

[late forum]

hammer is also archaic and bad

so

[solid isle]

oof

[alpine depot]

hammer makes me want to jump out of a window

[honest stag]

however trenchbroom is very very easy, even if it lacks some stuff

[solid isle]

to each their own I guess
I love Hammer