oh fuck
#dusk-modding
half vessel
long anchor
cursed
fringe nymph
still raptor
incredible
ancient depot
GTA:SA style
small gate
that's one cool ass effect, could probably replicate it with some clever vertex shader
ancient depot
honest stag
lol
still raptor
yeah or just boot up maximum acrion, alt tab for 1 minute, then tab back in
half vessel
would be good for like
honest stag
glad you like the jump pad
half vessel
one of those 'spooky' fourth wall breaking games
small gate
or some body horror stuff
small gate
holy shit
honest stag
the longer you stay the worse it gets by the way
honest stag
oh god
still raptor
why are you like this
honest stag
take the sdk back it was a mistake
little bay
can't wait till we get really well crafted singleplayer campaigns, its gonna be great.
fringe nymph
it is ingame vertex floating point precision falling apart due to player speed or gpu cannot properly calculate it due to the same reason?
small gate
not integer, floating point precision
fringe nymph
oh yeah thats what i meant
honest stag
yo is fog supported?
small gate
not speed, it's just you're too far gone in one direction and the precision falls apart
fringe nymph
k
honest stag
check if the lightpost is actually working now that you have euler support
long anchor
object_light_post_1 works, already checked
i need to fix streetlight
i'll put 0 90 0
honest stag
0 90 0 or 0 0 90 is the way to go pretty much always for me
long anchor
as you can see
honest stag
oh hell yea congrats
long anchor
congra congra congra!
honest stag
i would like some tf2 memes yes
also nice books and beer sign
wait isnt that from dusk? how did i miss it
it's perfect
half vessel
don't worry
versed wind
half vessel
versed wind
mehrio
half vessel
getting closer to being a clean scientist
elfin warren
He's beautiful
gritty forge
Walter is looking different today SMH
little bay
the dusk sdk is just an easy way to make cursed images
long anchor
it's probably the biggest mistake from my side to say that
versed wind
he looks like a scientist wearing a hl1 scientist's skin
long anchor
but there's no pony mods yet
little bay
its like a evolution of the minecraft cursed images meme
long anchor
oh guys
elfin warren
Dusk was once a wonderful creation. Then the SDK happened
long anchor
i checked server rules
gritty forge
He needs the blood cultist face
versed wind
oh god oh fuck
long anchor
god bless people who made these rules
half vessel
i'm surprised noone has made cultists yet
as soon as i finish this scientist
i'm gonna make the cowgirls into caleb
gritty forge
When is someone gonna make the Crack-Life of Dusk
versed wind
elfin warren
He scream
half vessel
noone gets hurt
versed wind
horror
long anchor
@gritty forge crack-life is a russian mod as far as i remember right?
elfin warren
A true abomination
gritty forge
It's the mod that replaces everything with lolrandom stuff
small gate
I can already hear the AUUUGHHH death sound in my head
long anchor
i know
gritty forge
Ah
small gate
and it's beautiful
gritty forge
I have no idea what country it's from
long anchor
if it's russian then i can replicate it
half vessel
but
elfin warren
He looks perturbed
half vessel
this is good for now
versed wind
he looks like a deflating balloon
half vessel
i should probably fix the collar
and the TEETH
actually no
i'm not taking the teeth away
elfin warren
He's seen some serious cringe
gritty forge
From the mod DB page "It features a bunch of overused jokes and memes that only get more annoying every time you hear them." So it's a Discord meme channel simulator
versed wind
gritty forge
HL1 alpha looooking goood
pearl fox
Hey there! Just got the sdk alpha and despite the modding noob that I am, I managed to export the Quake bsps from the PAK files. As wads are not supported yet, is there any way to apply the Quake textures?
versed wind
they're waiting for you gordon, in the cringe chamber
gritty forge
Is it possible to fully replace models yet?
plain lantern
STOP ATTACKING HES A FRIEND!
gritty forge
If so, I have a T-posed version of HL1 alpha barney I might port over
half vessel
whoops
elfin warren
Do you smell something burning?
half vessel
also model changes aren't ready yet
gritty forge
Ah
half vessel
i miss the teeth
he looked happier with it
hm
i'm not gonna fix that
too much effort
actually
small gate
the new textures makes the scientists look like a thumb
gritty forge
He's silly, and I love it
long anchor
@honest stag it looks so much nicer now
elfin warren
Trying to edit the helmet on the soldier. Do you guys know which part of the texture it is?
long anchor
that's the mystery
honest stag
eyyyy that does look great
long anchor
go on
half vessel
so good luck finding it lmao
draw red lines
in certain spots on the texture
and then check if they appear in game
gritty forge
The area where the downwards protrusion goes could have a different texture
Like the wall
half vessel
me and the boys
long anchor
you mean this part?
gritty forge
Yey
long anchor
oh god
gritty forge
I usually don't make walls and floors have a similar textures. Makes it pop out better and easier to tell depth
honest stag
trying to make a teleporter breaks the map, 'ight
half vessel
the boneball is fucking horrifying now
long anchor
actually i thought about changing road thing texture
half vessel
my friend just made it have eyes and mouths everywher
versed wind
honest stag
has anyone figured out how to make a teleporter and not crash the map?
i placed object_teleporter, placed info_teleport_destination and connected them via "target" and "targetname"
honest stag
am i doing this right?
long anchor
i think Zombie said that tps don't work now
honest stag
pretty sure he said they do
long anchor
heh
honest stag
basically i'll try trigger_teleport instead of object_teleport
gritty forge
A trigger makes more sense scripting wise, so I presume it would work.
long anchor
i couldn't find a replacement for the road tho
gritty forge
Oh, that looks nice
long anchor
thanks
gritty forge
Reminds me of the one city map in episode 1(?)
versed wind
true vale
ah yes
long anchor
because of nonexistant sky?
true vale
the true HORROR
long anchor
is there a way to make invisible walls now?
ah
well, you can't really make skyboxes now
gritty forge
It's not a texture you assign on a brush?
gritty forge
Ah
long anchor
let me show
gritty forge
If you can make texture scroll, just make the skybox a scrolling cloud texture
GoldenEye-tier skybox
long anchor
gritty forge
Oh
honest stag
man, secrets are so fun to make
long anchor
yeeass
honest stag
someone advised to just cover the entire man inside of a box for a fake skybox
long anchor
it feels so good when no one can find them
honest stag
map*
long anchor
it won't work
gritty forge
Isn't a skybox just a huge texture over the map anyway
honest stag
why wouldnt it? at least for an illusion
long anchor
you'll need to place lights every where to make it show up
@gritty forge as for quake - no
honest stag
or you could just use the "light" parameter in the worldspawn entitiy and set it to like 12-15 for a dim light everywhere
so that the player is never in pitch black
and contrast it with actual light sources
gritty forge
Something something the one map in the mineshaft
honest stag
yeah yeah the cutty mine
long anchor
@gritty forge that's how usually they look in quake
gritty forge
Ah
honest stag
that one has just a blue light
which would be perfect for like a moonlight effect but we cant have colored lights yet
long anchor
i moved it up a little bit for reasons, but works like that
gritty forge
I'm not as well versed on Quake as I am in other engines
long anchor
it's ok
i remember making boxes out of sky textures in hl tho
ok i'll try to make big box for dusk
fringe nymph
half vessel
okay caleb cowgirl isn't working
honest stag
you really like the jump pad huh
gritty forge
That floating point precision
fringe nymph
no i just left the game running and forgot about
half vessel
gritty forge
Floating points are getting too coarse
half vessel
what have i done
fringe nymph
no thats floating point precision still
half vessel
wait why is there a mouth on the back of the welder
honest stag
you know
i kinda want to do a rocket jumping map
fringe nymph
i just noticed that camera angle has a big impact on said precision
honest stag
would that work in dusk
long anchor
as i said, you need to light up the sky box or it'll be just blackness
it's better to wait until plane skies will work imo
honest stag
so have you tried using the "light" parameter? it would light up the skybox too wouldnt it
gritty forge
No fullbright texture options?
honest stag
lemme try doing the same
gritty forge
Getting somewhere
gritty forge
Also, I like the light beam effect you have on the left
gritty forge
The alpha channel triangle-like overlay on the street-like light
long anchor
12 is not enough
long anchor
@gritty forge yeah that comes by default with object_streetlight
gritty forge
Ah
honest stag
yeah try making it brighter but no too bright
long anchor
i'll put 36
nah still too dark
100
nope, now everything is too bright
i've got an idea
it might not work
and probably won't cause it's crazy
honest stag
there may be a way to only make a brush bright but i'm not sure
versed wind
can we get 3d models of the enemies
so we can paint them easier with stuff like substance painter
honest stag
what if you try to add the light property to the brush itself? @long anchor
and crank it up to 100
or 300
might not work
honest stag
hm
lemme try out something
honest stag
i have an idea, lemme try it out
ancient depot
"light" on worldspawn isn't fully supported
right now it's only in there so people can see things without any lights
fringe nymph
how scripts/triggers will work later on?
fluid nimbus
any update since yesterday? or juicy info
honest stag
scientists have teeth now
small gate
also lampposts
honest stag
also jumppad
spiral nexus
does Dusk have fullbright mode for when there isn't any lighting present in the map?
fluid nimbus
you can set the ambient light on brushes in trenchbroom
well, all brushes at once
select a brush, change the light value
honest stag
alright so i'm done for today on my episode maps, so i'm dropping them here
map first is jank, literally my first map and takes 2 minutes but i'm proud
map crash is work in progress and waaaay better but unfinished
have fun with this
spiral nexus
I see
honest stag
they are even "connected" by plot
fluid nimbus
what's the name of the MC in ass_spaceship
assman?
honest stag
just man
spiral nexus
I was wondering why some meme HL maps were dark as hell, since I don't think HL engine had ambient lighting on brushes
fluid nimbus
missed opportunity
long anchor
me back
fluid nimbus
the ambient light isn't per brush
you change the light on one brush, it changes on all of them
honest stag
map first is supposed to be on a spaceship named "dusk" (i know okay)
you wake up in the cargo bay and fight your way out to the command bridge where you get the key from an escape pod
you dont know how to pilot it so it crashes in a meat factory run by welders
which is the crash map
i had fun making them and i cant wait to see what comes out of this whole "making an episode" thing
(they suck tho)
long anchor
noice
gritty forge
Apparently, when I replace weapon firing sound files, the firing sounds have a short and slight fade in, lacking the punch. I think it's just an issue in the SDK alpha.
long anchor
@ancient depot has anyone already said that enemies sometimes fall through floors? or rather can clip through any brush for some insane reason?
acoustic hedge
ive seen that occur in the half life maps
long anchor
@gritty forge yep, they're working on this sound issue
honest stag
yea that still happens and i have no clue how to fix it
it happenes even when it has no reason to
long anchor
cool
ancient depot
happens a lot in quake e1m1
long anchor
i think it happens on every map that isn't just a plane brush
I just played Vriska's maps
long anchor
on "first" map some enemies gone on somewhere on the roof, same for one welder in "crash"
acoustic hedge
yeah 3 of the priestess just disappeared in front of me
long anchor
i personally can't say anything about difficulty cause for some reason any dusk map is kinda easy for me
i mean
i replayed dusk about 3 times
versed wind
long anchor
and all of them was on cero miedo, even when i booted up the game for the first time
not bragging, just stating fact
half vessel
is that vdub
elfin warren
Yep
versed wind
yep
elfin warren
That's the Schut man
half vessel
schut
versed wind
calla doodie man
fast ridge
half vessel
@fluid nimbus scientists have teeth now
fluid nimbus
is this official or a texture mod
half vessel
texture
fluid nimbus
looks more like a sawblade bit than teeths
fast ridge
half vessel
tall zenith
@fast ridge thanks I hate it
fluid nimbus
PERFECT
elfin warren
When Bat Credit card
fast ridge
You're welcome
acoustic hedge
STAHP
fluid nimbus
scientist looks like that palpatine hologram pic
fast ridge
He's supposed to scream Bat Credit Card when he spots you
fluid nimbus
where he goes thicc
fast ridge
but alert sounds are actin weird
elfin warren
He's perfect
winged wolf
is there a way to make textures move?
acoustic hedge
also on vriska's map i took the first launchpad and im somewhere
honest stag
i love that jump pad
fast ridge
Also I replaced every cultist death sound with the Deus Ex death sound
acoustic hedge
sickles
honest stag
also i'll add some ammo, just thought it would be a part of difficulty since dusk by itself isnt very difficult
like you know,conserving ammo and actually making use of the sickles
maybe i should just give the player a sword for that
honest stag
999
acoustic hedge
o
honest stag
... it can go faster probably
acoustic hedge
and crash the game probably
honest stag
lol map living up to it's name
fast ridge
here's a better look at the Horror
acoustic hedge
also i cant figure out how to get textures to load in my map
how did you do it in yours?
honest stag
are you using trenchbroom?
honest stag
so what you need to do is take this file and put in in the same place you put your mods but outside of the maps folder
acoustic hedge
oh ok
fluid nimbus
@acoustic hedge that weapon model fuckery is probably you getting yeeted to extradimensional distances and getting floating point errors
acoustic hedge
i have the palette files just didnt know where to put them
fluid nimbus
that tend to happen when you go super far away super fast in unity
long anchor
@fluid nimbus it is
acoustic hedge
yeah i thought so
fluid nimbus
models start having seizures
long anchor
Zombie explained it perfectly somewhere ^^^
versed wind
honest stag
yahahaha it's me todd
acoustic hedge
now its working, thanks
honest stag
eyyy great
gritty forge
I get turok 1 vibes with the bricks everywhere
long anchor
ok guys i'm going to jail for this
acoustic hedge
shut up
versed wind
beautiful
acoustic hedge
it is but shut up
elfin warren
I love him
long anchor
aw 😦
verbal peak
@long anchor im only going to say this once, otherwise expect warnings in the future. mods shared here are subject to server rules
long anchor
ok, got it, sorry
acoustic hedge
how did you guys get the entity list for trenchbroom?
long anchor
it's somewhere in sdk folder
honest stag
long anchor
or you can look at pinned messages
acoustic hedge
thanks
long anchor
so, @honest stag did something about skyboxes work?
gritty forge
I am gonna do a neural network texture pack.
I'd also make edits to them to make them even better.
honest stag
nope sadly
tried everything
even making the brush a function and then applying "light" to it
long anchor
i tried it too
pearl fox
is the missing main menu music and mods activating themselves on launch of another level normal behaviour in this build or is there something wrong on my end?
pearl fox
Cool, thx
gritty forge
Damn, you shoulda just left it as "yes." Lol.
acoustic hedge
how do i mount the entities file to trenchbroom?
honest stag
no need to
make a point entity and rename it to whatever entity you want placed
gritty forge
Why not female it?
honest stag
that's right click - make point entity - any
it wont show up in trenchbroom of course but will show up in game
sharp trail
Do movement triggers work?
honest stag
didnt work for me, maybe i just made them wrong
teleport works tho
man
so many maps are going to break as the sdk gets patched
ancient depot
uh, that's weird
lol
I think I know why though
I think those two textures might have the same name after they're trimmed to 15 characters in length
but both still get added to the wad
small gate
yay name collisions
ancient depot
and the way TrenchBroom and the map compiler read the wad must differ, so they grab different textures
I need to add name collision detection & resolution to MakeWad then
for now you can make your own wad by copying the textures you need and generating it
long anchor
as i understand i can use MakeWad to make any pic in the wad, right?
ancient depot
Yes
long anchor
noice
ancient depot
It's just a convenience tool for shoving a bunch of PNG textures into a wad
The alternative would be to use something like TexMex, but that doesn't support PNG so you'd have to convert the textures
half vessel
long anchor
is it possible now to make invisible walls?
ancient depot
I don't think so, but we can add a func_ for it
we have func_illusionary, so I guess I could add func_invisible or something
long anchor
that would be nice
gritty forge
Lazy way would be to make a wall brush with a texture mapped to only the transparent section of an image
honest stag
wait if png textures are supported, why not make just a transparent png and then apply it
gritty forge
But decals might appear on the wall
small gate
because thats an unecessary draw call
long anchor
cause it's seems that transparent stuff doesn't work
ancient depot
The PNGs aren't what get used in the map
gritty forge
Yeah, I saw a fence texture with no alpha channel a few posts above
ancient depot
When the PNG is added to a wad, it gets turned into a 256-color paletted texture
long anchor
(it was my fence)
gritty forge
Yey
ancient depot
And we don't support transparency in Q1 & HL BSP maps just yet
It's all being worked on tho
long anchor
good
small gate
no "discard" index on the palette?
gritty forge
What indexing format does the wad compiler use?
ancient depot
There is, but that's enabled via an entity property we don't yet support
small gate
oh ok
ancient depot
Indexing format?
ancient depot
Oh you mean how it palettizes it?
gritty forge
Yey
ancient depot
I treat each pixel as a 3 dimensional vector and find the "closest" colour
gritty forge
Ah.
small gate
if you ever decide to do some other method of quantization, I highly recommend this: https://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/dither/jy/
gritty forge
When I was doing N64 stuff, I had to deal with 4 bit greyscale (16 shades only) for the best texture size, and it was a nightmare because of bad indexing tools.
small gate
yliluoma's doc on it is amazing
ancient depot
We probably won't, but I'd happily accept pull requests for MakeWad
gritty forge
I'd just batch it to 256 using pngoo or something then add it to the wad
versed wind
think you should pin that wad maker
gritty forge
Unless it has to be a certain pallete
small gate
when I get bored with loading wads on unity I'll prob give it a shot
ancient depot
OFFICIAL TOOL FOR GENERATING TEXTURE WADS
https://github.com/NewBloodInteractive/MakeWad/releases
gritty forge
If so, Darth Zombie's method would work best.
versed wind
there ya go
ancient depot
We don't generate a palette from the texture itself
gritty forge
Ah
ancient depot
But rather use a palette.lmp file you pass in
gritty forge
So yeah, your method would work best.
Only issue that might happen is that colour quality can be lost because it'll round down close colours to the same one I think
ancient depot
Correct
It's no big deal for dusk maps though since the intention is that later the game will load the PNG textures from the files, and just use the ones in the map as a last resort
and for finding out the texture name
gritty forge
I dealt with that so many times because I didn't know 4 bit greyscale was certain colours only than just 16 shades.
In that case it might be better to 1. Dither manually after indexing. Or 2, adjust the images to have higher contrast before importing.
long anchor
how to make func_breakable work?
versed wind
gritty forge
Walters final form looking great
elfin warren
I'm surprised the loop even worked
long anchor
bruh
winged wolf
speaking of, I assume func_train doesn't work either?
ancient depot
func_train won't even spawn because it has no class implemented
func_breakable spawns since we set up a dummy entity for it
winged wolf
oh word
ancient depot
for reference
winged wolf
I was just tryin' to get some brushes to move abit but rip that for now
gritty forge
How is the map loading from other games done? Are you making your own compiler that compiles the maps to Dusk's standards? If so, huge respect.
I expected people to make serious stuff with the SDK since the first release and all I see is shitpost stuff. Didn't say I was disappointed though
ancient depot
No, we have direct support for them
hollow laurel
don't think they even need a compiler as such, since the quake map specs are open
gritty forge
Ah
hollow laurel
well, serious stuff takes longer
long anchor
@gritty forge serious stuff takes time, also not everything's implemented
versed wind
anyone know the sound when you spin your weapon?
gritty forge
I made the ssg play loud e1m1
ancient depot
@versed wind sounds/flip.flac
versed wind
thanks!
elfin warren
Nice
long anchor
awww yesss, clippy clips
hollow laurel
nice
long anchor
what do you think is better
ebon jetty
@honest stag I just used different lampposts
long anchor
i made spikes first but now i think the blocky "spire" is better
long anchor
hmm
acoustic hedge
whenever i try to put trigger_secret in my map it never loads in dusk but loads in quake
long anchor
odd
acoustic hedge
when i take it out it loads fine
long anchor
you mean map isn't loading or secret doesn't show up?
acoustic hedge
is not loading
long anchor
oh
hollow laurel
that's strange, i have a trigger_secret in my map and it loads fine
versed wind
he waits
long anchor
same same
acoustic hedge
GAHG
elfin warren
I've created a monster
long anchor
@half vessel something like this?
versed wind
me and grey are fucking destroying this game for vinny
acoustic hedge
thats good
versed wind
half vessel
SPEEN
versed wind
this is so ridiculous
acoustic hedge
yes
versed wind
it's perfect
long anchor
it is
@acoustic hedge maybe you changed some properties in trigger_secret and game didn't like it?
acoustic hedge
let me check
i just renamed another prop to the trigger and set it there without changing anything
i think thats it
long anchor
maybe
long anchor
i think thats because of the message
try leaving it blank
since there's a message anyway
hollow laurel
hmm, just to be sure
trigger_secret is a brush entity, and mine looks like this:
honest stag
pretty sure the you found a secret messafe shows up anyway in dusk
long anchor
^
honest stag
select the brush and right click it, then -> make brush entity > trigger > secret
versed wind
acoustic hedge
oh ok
honest stag
now it's invisible and has no clipping and shows the secret message
this scientist mod is freaking me out
acoustic hedge
i know
long anchor
also 1 secret still counts as 2
hollow laurel
that moves those from.... deeply unsettling, to wholly wrong and against all that's good in the world
long anchor
insert Gordon Ramsay's "fucking wrong" quote
acoustic hedge
it wont let me create the brush, secret is greyed out
acoustic hedge
dont know what i did but ok
tight ice
hey what tool should i use for map building ?
acoustic hedge
trenchbroom
hollow laurel
trenchbroom is the best imo
long anchor
^
honest stag
trenchbroom
hollow laurel
easy to get into, under current development
tight ice
ok thanks sorry im new to this lol
long anchor
it's ok
hollow laurel
np, that's partially what this channel is for :D
everyone's new at some point
(it's also partially for mememods :p)
wooden pier
haha true
hollow laurel
and, without say the fgd out or such, you'll have time to learn how trenchbroom works before other stuff
yay, fixed water (i just copied over the func_water entry in the quake 2 fgd to the one i made as a placeholder thing for dusk)
also, started to make some hills in the first outside area, beacuse.....
hollow laurel
moving that thing ways off, so it won't take a minute to play through
?
so, gonna be upphill, mountain paths and such
long anchor
are there any properties for water? or i can just make func_water and it'll be ok?
hollow laurel
might chuck in a tiny mine
think so
i just moved that over so i don't break the fgd syntax :p
long anchor
doesn't work for me
hollow laurel
hmm
hollow laurel
sure, sec
@SolidClass base(Appearflags, Targetname) color(0 128 204) = func_water : "Moveable water"
[
spawnflags(Flags) =
[
1 : "Start Open" : 0
]
speed(integer) : "Speed" : 25
wait(choices) : "Wait before return" : -1 =
[
-1 : "Toggle"
]
lip(integer) : "Lip remaining after move"
sounds(Choices) : "Sounds" : 1 =
[
0 : "No Sounds"
1 : "Water"
2 : "Lava"
]
team(string) : "Team"
_minlight(integer) : "Minimum light (optional)"
]
uhm
hollow laurel
or, you ment the brush, sec II
long anchor
ok i'm confused
hollow laurel
because mine looks like this
hollow laurel
so, guess no other things than func_water as classname
(i did the fgd thing since i like having stuff in the editor menus :p)
ancient depot
note we still need to make func_water entities double-sided
also while func_water is supposed to be a derivative of func_door, it isn't yet, which will be fixed later
so atm it's more like static water, not movable
long anchor
gotcha
ancient depot
(mainly because there's no way to trigger a door other than with the use key currently, and I'm sure you don't want your func_water objects moving around just from that lmao)
half vessel
okay weird question but
long anchor
as far as i remember glass isn't transperent now, right?
ancient depot
it's in sounds/vo/
I think it's the last big_john line
as far as i remember glass isn't transperent now, right?
correct
long anchor
half vessel
cheers
long anchor
@ancient depot i just remembered that there's no func_breakable so there's no point in making glass lol
half vessel
i fucking love big john so much lmao
ancient depot
lmao
honest stag
this was a good modding day, c ya tomorrow duks
half vessel
that was me
acoustic hedge
does anyone know why the tree is like this? (object_tree_alive)
half vessel
i made jusk
acoustic hedge
i set my lighting way too high
acoustic hedge
hmm
acoustic hedge
yahhga
half vessel
i think big john is stealing his audio files back
long anchor
nope
long anchor
it just works weird
long anchor
acoustic hedge
scroll up
long anchor
np
half vessel
i found a good noise
for the horror
it's just big john going "KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME"
long anchor
you're making Jusk 1.1?
half vessel
working on it until alert sounds get fixed
then i'll probably do 1.1
god i hate the boneballs in this
it's just sunglasses and mouths
acoustic hedge
AHHAHGEAA
half vessel
this might be worse
versed wind
what in gods name
iron needle
How goes everything?
versed wind
good, good
half vessel
hey the file for jusk got approved
versed wind
elfin warren
Sorry we ruined your game
versed wind
what exactly is jusk
half vessel
big john dusk
versed wind
oh god
iron needle
For anyone me who's interested we're planning on having func_button implemented over the weekend.
half vessel
except the mod section for dusk on moddb is now blank
hmmm
it had like two yesterday
long anchor
@iron needle light fix when 
iron needle
Which light fix?
iron needle
Are there confirmed more than just lightmaps being slightly off?
iron needle
@ancient depot any idea?
ancient depot
do you have "light" set on worldspawn?
iron needle
Wait I have a thought
ancient depot
alternatively you might have a completely white lightmap
iron needle
The tree with leaves on it is white also right?
ancient depot
so our lightmap lighting script is giving them white emission colouring
long anchor
do you have "light" set on worldspawn?
nope
iron needle
Both of those are PB objects
ancient depot
my bets are on the lightmap being white then
long anchor
The tree with leaves on it is white also right?
yes
ancient depot
would need to load the BSP while running the game in the unity editor and then check the lightmaps
iron needle
I'll bet you anything it's because they're pb
And are set to static but not present for the light bake
ancient depot
Renderers lose their lightmap assignment when they're in a prefab instance
So it can't be that
I can't imagine it being anything other than ObjectLighting giving them full white emission, but for all I know I could be wrong
iron needle
But they wouldn't have a lightmap baked, right? But also probably don't have their shader set up for dynamic light or a dynamic light component
ancient depot
We still generate a main lightmap regardless
iron needle
So yeah agreed I'll bet it's that Zombie
ancient depot
and it might be defaulting to white or something
iron needle
Those both use environmental materials
Which wouldn't be set up for emission.
So any emissive color would just be color, not tinting an emission texture
I think that's a relatively easy fix if that's the issue
ancient depot
assign a default emissive texture if one isn't set?
iron needle
Probably yeah
ancient depot
Luckily Unity offers a convenience Texture2D.whiteTexture static property
iron needle
So long as it's per-instance, since those mats are environmental
I'll add it to trello to investigate further
iron needle
Yeah get slep
long anchor
good night
hollow laurel
also, yeah, lights are quite off comparing how it looks in quake (modern port since.... well, my massive box)
long anchor
(or day, i dunno)
hollow laurel
but the lights do... something at least, so one can test shit :p
iron needle
Oh yeah looking at your screenshots again @long anchor I'm certain that's the issue, because you can see the original texture underneath.
That shouldn't be too hard to fix
long anchor
👍
half vessel
hollow laurel
running through darkplaces (no realtime lighting stuff on, because meh)
and dusk
same bsp file
long anchor
same for my map that i already showed, both variants
hollow laurel
woo
think it was mentioned earlier.... though might've been on some other issue with light?
tepid flint
Can you open fortnite map with trenchbroom????
hollow laurel
o_-
long anchor
@hollow laurel isn't that lighmaps problem David was talking about?
hollow laurel
well, yeah, probably
iron needle
Anyway sorry you guys are running into issues. Glad to see there's some cool stuff still being made though!
hollow laurel
nah, no probs since really early alpha
and can still do most of the hard work before stuff gets fixed
long anchor
Anyway sorry you guys are running into issues.
that's why alpha exists
hollow laurel
and i guess func_water to make water work (since quake handles it based on texture) is temporary to some degree, since enemies are jesus and walk on top of it :p
iron needle
Yup that's why the alpha exists indeed 😛
@hollow laurel umm i don't think func_water is gonna go away, but we'll just have to fix that
hollow laurel
also, gonna make a secret cat shrine, just so you know
fast ridge
Critic Horror is the highlight of my Dusk memes
hollow laurel
probably your cat in the center of it, with mine and friends cats around
because cats are great
and, you already have a texture for your cat in the game
iron needle
👍
hollow laurel
and, it's going to be arse to reach it
as in really convoluted
because, well, what else to do with a secret with no items?
hollow laurel
have a good one, and cheers for game + sdk :3
long anchor
David said that it's probably easy to fix
acoustic hedge
yeah i know
long anchor
oh ok
verbal peak
Minimalism dusk
hoary juniper
Susk
long anchor
putting some nice lookin' t r a s h
fading wedge
textures not displaying is mostly related to palette.imp being there, yeah?
long anchor
rather not being there
alpine depot
everyone seems to be doing something productive with the sdk and here i am retracing every texture in ms paint
gritty forge
That map looks nice Veven
long anchor
thanks
half vessel
@alpine depot that's a great use of time
fading wedge
Also is everyone compiling through trench or is it confirmed that compiling through erictools works fine
long anchor
you didn't see most of new stuff i made
half vessel
would be even better if you remade all the sounds with your mouth
alpine depot
thats the plan next
gritty forge
I have a better mod idea
alpine depot
but not sure if sound replacements work yet
long anchor
ericw works super nice
half vessel
doosk
alpine depot
and i also lost my microphone
gritty forge
Every texture as a jpeg in the lowest setting
alpine depot
i'm gonna convert all the music to midi format
fading wedge
palette goes where in relation to the directorys?
long anchor
in mod root
dense locust
@gritty forge do u mean that? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662601513134456844/662601551189245952/20200103151131_1.jpg
alpine depot
what format do the sound files have to be in?
long anchor
flac and something else that i don't remember
alpine depot
oh wait found it
it all uses ogg vorbis for music it seems
flac for sound effects
god the music is going to sound like absolute ass when it's done
i'm converting it to midi, then i have to convert it back to ogg, and it's all horribly compressed using an online converter
gritty forge
Will it sound like it's being played through GBA directsound
alpine depot
it's going to sound like someone is trying to murder a piano
gritty forge
SM64 be like
acoustic hedge
if you compress it, it will be both
gritty forge
When you walk near the piano and he stops vibing
faint summit
so have there been any fixes?
alpine depot
im going to do something terrible and instead of wasting my time converting everything back to ogg, i'll just change the file extension to .ogg
alpine depot
h-dusk hype
gritty forge
Use foobar to do it, Aqua
gritty forge
Hideo Dusk
half vessel
i'd play hideous dustructor tbh
gritty forge
Dusk Dude Solid
half vessel
not sure how you'd do it
gritty forge
Wonder how hard backporting HL2 maps to HL1/quake standard would be
alpine depot
oh god i turned nyarlathotep into an anime girl
long anchor
i wonder how much time it would took for David to make this gravel hill back in the days
alpine depot
i cant stop laughing im being given too much power
gritty forge
I used to be apart of the HL2 classic dev team, and they did it somehow
half vessel
aren't those remakes
gritty forge
No
alpine depot
demake*
gritty forge
They're really cleaned up edits AFAIK
I only did the models for some stuff, never the mapping stuff
long anchor
@gritty forge on one of the streams David said that doing some mapping stuff for Dusk was pain in the ass
and i wonder
gritty forge
I modeled the redone MP7, and Grigori.
acoustic hedge
he did it in a way where when he modeled a building he had to model the windows too
he couldnt cut windows into them
thats why theres not many windows in dusk
gritty forge
Didn't he use the Unity mapping tools with no knife/boolean operations?
long anchor
so there's nothing to do with gravel hills? aww 😦
acoustic hedge
they still look cool
fluid nimbus
he used probuilder
which is more of a modelling tool for detail stuff than for blockout/level geometry
but unity made it their official LD tool
it's ok but realtime csg is better for like, almost everything
half vessel
it's not a dusk mod but
i'm very excited for source 2 hammer
with some half life assets
most of what i did in hammer was half life shit
fluid nimbus
I'm just excited to see what peoples turn HL alyx into
half vessel
but yeah i'm pretty sure source 2 hammer is real time?
supports real time lighting at least
which makes me think they've abandoned the ray traced lighting of the source engine
alpine depot
shit, my music isnt replacing the standard music
same filepath and name and extension
i guess music replacement doesnt work yet?
gritty forge
oh god I made the awful mistake of replacing the rat texture with a png of a real rat and ratacombs became real hell
did you place the texture correctly and enable it in the sdk?
faint summit
I did
i've edited this texture before and it worked
Did I pick the wrong mage type?
faint summit
oh okay
long anchor
gnomed
long anchor
what are u using to rotate it?
faint summit
now it works
long anchor
isn't it an entity?
acoustic hedge
yeah, should it be?
long anchor
yes
acoustic hedge
long anchor
and you need to add property called "euler" and put something like 0 90 0
acoustic hedge
oh
heady cave
WHY IS THERE A GNOME CULTIST
long anchor
gnomed
faint summit
hello me old chum
acoustic hedge
im gnot a gnelf
heavy sluice
faint summit
is there a way to change the fire color
half vessel
@faint summit goddamnit
chrome wagon
@faint summit be sure that the extension of the texture matches the original one as well.
Example: wendigo.png
If the image you want to replace has a png format and your images has a different format, then you have to convert your image into png.
faint summit
i did
chrome wagon
I was reading old posts, i see that you fixed it already =P
faint summit
im asking about the fire effect around the sword
pearl zealot
Is there any tutorial out there which tells how to set Trenchbroom up for Dusk? I'm struggling to figure it out
half vessel
a lot of effects can't be changed yet
faint summit
since it's new i doubt it
elfin warren
The more textures I edit the more I regret what I'm doing
acoustic hedge
@long anchor that didnt fix it
long anchor
do you have latest hotfix dll?
acoustic hedge
tractor is flipped now but uhhh
long anchor
uhhh
gritty forge
I actually like how that looks NGL
long anchor
wat
acoustic hedge
i dont know
i made it before i put the DLL in and i put the new one in and it did this
long anchor
it's ok that you made before replacing dll
acoustic hedge
ill try recompiling it
acoustic hedge
hmm
some how flipped my map but not entities?
@iron needle ? (i did something wrong, i fixed it)
long anchor
wait, your map flipped?
acoustic hedge
it kinda looks like it
long anchor
i thought textues are gone
acoustic hedge
lighting is gone
long anchor
where you added euler? to the entity, or to the world itself?
acoustic hedge
entity but i may have done that by accident
long anchor
check it
acoustic hedge
when i try to edit JUST the sign it edits everything else
probably cause its connected
long anchor
your sign is a brush, right?