#dusk-modding | New Blood | Page 19

faint summit Jan 4, 2020, 3:35 AM

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for some reason when i convert ogg to flac, the sounds end quicker

heavy sluice Jan 4, 2020, 3:35 AM

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yeah they will in the future

pearl reef Jan 4, 2020, 3:35 AM

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and are weapon mods available right now or not really

faint summit Jan 4, 2020, 3:35 AM

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for example

📎 hicivvie.flac

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what it works fully here?

crude cedar Jan 4, 2020, 3:36 AM

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alert/attack sound replacement is broken rn

faint summit Jan 4, 2020, 3:36 AM

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When I click to check the sound it seems to end quicker

crude cedar Jan 4, 2020, 3:36 AM

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I tried with my rats

faint summit Jan 4, 2020, 3:36 AM

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makes no sense

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 3:37 AM

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reb how you come up with such unique and brilliant ideas

faint summit Jan 4, 2020, 3:37 AM

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📎 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.flac

hoary juniper Jan 4, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Hey Reb, spiders

heavy sluice Jan 4, 2020, 3:37 AM

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weapon mods aren't available right now its just basic maps

faint summit Jan 4, 2020, 3:37 AM

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that's weird

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When I open them in grove music, it ends quicker

iron needle Jan 4, 2020, 3:37 AM

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@ebon jetty is that light baked?

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 3:37 AM

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you can replace player sounds but not enemies/music

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 3:38 AM

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@iron needle probably not since today's the first time i've ever used trenchbroom

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 3:38 AM

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i havent tried environmental/ambient stuff

heavy sluice Jan 4, 2020, 3:38 AM

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oh yeah you can also replace textures and shit

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Other than Source (hl2) BSPs, BSPs do not store the original geometry. Most of the faces are clipped/removed/etc and it's impossible to perfectly derive the solids back from what's left, much like how it's impossible to automatically get source code back from a compiled program (unless there's debugging symbols).

cold latch Jan 4, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Can I make Big John say that he loves me

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 3:39 AM

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no

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not yet

cold latch Jan 4, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Can't wait for the Big John Romance mod

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BJR

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:39 AM

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IIRC how most bsp decompilers work is they create one giant solid and basically do a bunch of boolean operations to "carve out" the negative space of the map which kinda works but it's a huge mess no matter what.

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@ancient depot how does AI Pathing work with custom maps?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:40 AM

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it generates a navmesh while loading

faint summit Jan 4, 2020, 3:40 AM

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can I mod weapon sounds?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:41 AM

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and Q3BSP also stores the original geo

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 3:41 AM

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yes

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 3:41 AM

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today was a nice day of fighting trenchbroom
finally everything i wanted kinda worked out, only thing left is to finish the map and figure out which textures show up and which dont

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that's really weird tho
i use dusk.wad and some textures just dont work
random ones

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Any way to view the generated navmesh? Can't imagine it's gonna work perfectly completely automatically

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 3:43 AM

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just make foolproof layout

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:44 AM

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@honest stag which wad

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v1 or v2

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Setting light property on worldspawn doesn't seem to be working with the new dll btw, at least in JACK

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:45 AM

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did you lightmap your level?

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it only works if you don't do that

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 3:45 AM

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wait

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there is a v2?

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is it the one dave linked?

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 3:45 AM

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i won't lie my lighting doesn't look great either but that's probably because i'm overlaying light entities over the torches

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Yeah, I made a mistake in my tool when I first made a texture wad

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 3:46 AM

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ah i see, i'll get the other one then

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:46 AM

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and it left out the null terminator for textures with long names

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the new one is pinned here

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Tried both running and not running HLRAD. Neither worked

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 3:46 AM

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any advice on solving these lighting issues

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im guessing im not approaching lighting in the right way

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:47 AM

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what are you setting the light value to? @lament ore

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:47 AM

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How are you approaching lighting @ebon jetty ? Placing light entities should work fine

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@ancient depot 255

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 3:47 AM

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im doing that

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light entities on top of the torch models

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:47 AM

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hm, should be working then

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:47 AM

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what color and brightness are they aupenn?

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I'll send map file and such in a sec

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 3:47 AM

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i haven't messed with colors

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:47 AM

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oh wait

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can you send me the map compiled?

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 3:48 AM

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i think the lights are 300

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and have the candle setting

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:48 AM

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yes will do

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@ebon jetty iirc it's a byte so it should only go up to 255 unless that's different in trenchbroom

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 3:49 AM

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it defaulted at 300

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so i assumed it was 300

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:49 AM

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We support values higher than 255 but 255 is "full bright"

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 3:50 AM

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it dosent roll back to 0?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:50 AM

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nope

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Hopefully soon I will be able to show you my reworked player pain sound. I made it sound less like it came from some old-school styled game... I mean like the beeps and boops kind.

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 3:51 AM

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📎 unknown.png

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 3:51 AM

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It sounds more natural.

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 3:51 AM

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this is what i've done and yeah

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it doesn't work well

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 3:51 AM

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man it's so nice to make a map when everything actually works

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Also, I fixed the click from the landing sound.

fringe summit Jan 4, 2020, 3:51 AM

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https://twitter.com/KinoFabino/status/1213305004863438849?s=20

FABINO (@KinoFabino)

The pain never ends

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 3:52 AM

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are you sure it dosent clip off the room?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Yeah I think I set the ambient light value in the wrong spot which is why it doesn't work rn

lapis hare Jan 4, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Could you stop stealing our women, man? I don't wanna have to keep doing this kind of work.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:52 AM

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need to test with a map to find out

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:53 AM

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@ancient depot https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mJgl1OeVMpytYSO4VMfRBQxFvpvRTkxL

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:53 AM

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thanks

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:53 AM

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bsps with and without lightmapping, the .map, and the original JACK .jmf

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removed the doors in this version so you can look around too

errant hollow Jan 4, 2020, 3:55 AM

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i just loaded up hl1 map and like 10 big johns spawned right in front me

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nice

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 3:56 AM

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which mapformat/game should i stick with trenchbroom in order to not lose any utility later on when sdk will get expanded

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generic quake, generic half-life or q3a

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:57 AM

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I assume trechbroom with quake will always be the first priority

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Trenchbroom does support "generic" engines though. Maybe one day we'll have direct DUSK support in Trenchbroom.

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Speaking of, @iron needle will we perhaps be getting IQM versions of the models used in the Dusk campaign? I'm sure tons of people would find it helpful to use those models as a springboard for making custom models

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Especially since animations tend to be a huge time sink

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Yes

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Sweeeet

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 3:59 AM

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@fringe nymph Anything other than Q3A should be mostly the same aside from fixes

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 3:59 AM

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so generic-hl just to be sure

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:00 AM

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If you're using Trenchbroom don't do Half-Life. Trenchbroom doesn't have full HL1 support.

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For trenchbroom, just do Quake

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And also if I'm not mistaken, HL1 maps won't be able to support the direct UV mapping feature of trenchbroom, no?

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:01 AM

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it doesnt matter if i do map for the dusk, does it?

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:01 AM

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You still need to compile the map through the target game (in this case, HL1) tools

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The workflow to get trenchbroom maps compiled into HL1 maps is obtuse at best

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:01 AM

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the same is with the quake 1

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Yes, but like I said Trenchbroom doesn't have HL1 support. You won't be able to see any HL1 models in the editor, for example.

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:02 AM

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and i do not need to see them

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:02 AM

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@lament ore your "no lightmaps" bsp actually had a single black lightmap in it

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:02 AM

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ill use dusk entities

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:02 AM

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but I compiled my own and I can confirm I fixed the problem

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:03 AM

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@fringe nymph you cannot use Dusk entities directly in the editor.

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You use entities of the target game which then map over to Dusk entities

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:03 AM

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You actually can use dusk entities

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:03 AM

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ye

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Oh you can?

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:03 AM

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just type in the proper name

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Yeah, the SDK has an "entities.txt" file

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you have to manually enter the class names

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:03 AM

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and it should work

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Oh I see. Still though, I really don't see any reason why you'd use the HL1 tools if you're in Trenchbroom.

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:04 AM

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lightmaps?

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:04 AM

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@ancient depot wonder how I can get rid of that lightmap in JACK. Might just have to jump ship to trenchbroom

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:04 AM

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It's the map compiler that adds the lightmap

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I just used ericw tools

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Ah I'm using the tools included with JACK which are probably forks of ZHLT

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Any way the SDK could detect that the map has a single black lightmap and use the worldspawn light value instead?

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:05 AM

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I can't believe there is an unused hup.

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Wait.

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Never mind.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:06 AM

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it could, but that would break maps that are supposed to have a single black lightmap

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:06 AM

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It isn't unused.

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Ah, shame

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:06 AM

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I am pretty sure it was used for Jakob if I remember correctly.

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:06 AM

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I'll just learn Trenchbroom. I've been meaning to for a while anyway, the only thing holding me back was lack of HL1 support

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:07 AM

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JACK should be able to change map compilers

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You don't have to switch if you don't want to

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:07 AM

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I know it can, I just don't like going against the flow of things

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Would be worth waiting until I post the hotfix anyway so you can try again

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Will do

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:07 AM

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📎 NewBlood.dll

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:08 AM

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I've been meaning to create a fork of Trenchbroom to work on HL1 support but y'know, full time job and such

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:08 AM

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it already supports valve220 .map files afaik

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just needs entity defs

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and ofc model format support

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Yeah model support is the big thing

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Trenchbroom already supports IQM, no? I'd be tempted to add native Dusk support in a fork if yes

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I don't believe it does

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for our trenchbroom support kit we're exporting a bunch of animation-less .mdl files

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I did a funny

📎 Dusk_Screenshot_2020.01.03_-_22.09.46.17.png

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:10 AM

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ah, poo

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:12 AM

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There's a whole bunch of alternate sound effects.

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An alternate dying sound for the wendigo.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Yeah, I made sure some of them got exported

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There are more that aren't in the files yet

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Just let me talk about them, though, I need to become a rat ASAP.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:13 AM

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hahahaha

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Also, are they unused or are they gonna be used?

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:13 AM

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unless you dont gain xp on dusk-mods leonthink

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Do I not?

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I need to know.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:15 AM

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They're unused

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And you gain it in all channels afaik

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I think except for meme factory

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Makes sense.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:16 AM

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I could be wrong

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:16 AM

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So why aren't all the sounds available in the files?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:16 AM

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we had to manually go through and give them all names

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:16 AM

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You can have me do that...

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:16 AM

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at some point there were just so many sounds to go through that we started skipping over unused ones

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:16 AM

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I'm all about audio.

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I wouldn't mind doing it. I wouldn't even skip a beat.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Nah don't worry, we're handling it in a patch

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Well, you might wanna rename "water_night_very_cluster" to "hallowed_health_ambience"

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Because that's what it is...

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:20 AM

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It's called Water Night because that's the source of the sound

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:20 AM

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What's water night?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:20 AM

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but yes, I agree calling it hallowed health ambience would be better

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ixP0NiGZnw

YouTube

Pepermelo

Eric Whitacre - Water Night

Disclaimer: I do not own.

▶ Play video

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:20 AM

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You can just give credit in the metadata.

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And "switch" should be called "pickup_object"

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:23 AM

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greetings all

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Hello

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:23 AM

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i'm insanely stoked that this is out

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Honestly it isn't as exciting as I thought it would be... Considering how limited it is at the moment.

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At least I am finally able to fix that stupid low quality water sound...

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It's fascinating how many unused sounds there are.

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Maybe I can modify the code to repurpose them... That would be cool.

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I don't know coding all to well though.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Some of the sounds are only half unused

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I'm mainly just stoked to fire up Trenchbroom and mess around

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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For example, there are unused weapons that we haven't made usable yet

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But when those weapons are enabled, they use some of the unused audio

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Wait! There's more weapons!?

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Holy shit.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Yup, some enemies and objects got cut too

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Gimme 1 or 2 examples.

torpid agate Jan 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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There was a bfg that got cut I think

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Please.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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three weapons that come to mind are

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Chainsaw

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Dark Claw

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Totem

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I knew it! I knew there was an unused chainsaw when I looked in the sound files.

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Custom weapons are something I'm definitely looking forward to

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:27 AM

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there's probably the texture in there somewhere too

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:27 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brWieJDnx78

YouTube

TheZombieKiller

amulet

▶ Play video

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Why are there 4 melee weapons, though?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:27 AM

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that's the Dark Claw

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in that video

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Oh. Okay.

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Why are there 3 then?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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"why not?" lol

solid isle Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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wait does the SDK come with a texture wad?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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you'd have to ask David

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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The more the merrier

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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the sickles used to be hammers

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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@solid isle the wad is in the pinned messages

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Does the chainsaw replace the sickles when you get it?

solid isle Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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oh it's a recent post then

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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The chainsaw code is missing atm, but I've recovered it from older builds

solid isle Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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or "recent" I guess since I havent checked since last night

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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We're gonna rewrite a bunch of weapon code later so they'll all be individual guns

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Too many weapons... There's only so many keys.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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There was a pump-action shotgun at one point too

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Is there a traditional grenade launcher? The Mortar always felt odd to me.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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both single and double barrel versions

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Damn, I wanna use those.

deft frigate Jan 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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i am turok

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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No but there was an M16

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Speaking of, how do you plan to get C code running on top of Unity? Is it just interpreted or?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:30 AM

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The M16 is lame compared to the assault rifle in the final game though

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It's interpreted yeah

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Interesting. In-house solution or?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:30 AM

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I'm considering converting it to IL so it can be JITted

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In-house VM, third party compiler (written by a friend of mine)

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:30 AM

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nice nice

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I was actually working on a compiler for my own C-like language recently

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transpiler, more accurately

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It took PICO-C (my language) source code and outputted valid PICO-8 Lua code

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Neat

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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I need to redesign it from the ground up though and Capitalism (tm)

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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How extensive did that compiler's infrastructure get?

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Did you have an AST for example?

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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What are some unused enemies?

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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I did generate an AST yes

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:32 AM

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There were Lost Soul-like enemies at one point, and a thing called the Meat Lass

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There are also headless soldier enemies with a magic weapon replacing one of their arms

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Currently it generates a single AST from the Pico-C source and for the most part simply translates that to Lua

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Why didn't the Lost Souls make the cut?

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Headless soldiers? Like the Beheaded Sirians?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:32 AM

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📎 squid.png

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and this guy

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Pick up the can.

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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However I'm running up against a complexity wall here and I want to redesign it to generate a Pico-C based AST, then transform it to a Lua based AST

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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headless soldiers are available in the one the alphas

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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the E3 one I believe

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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ye

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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@lament ore that sounds like the right approach, yeah

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Were they a Serious Sam reference?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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nah

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they were the original mages

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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not related at all

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:34 AM

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some day I'll get around to it lmao

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:34 AM

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What about the backpack full of ammo? I know Doom has it, but the Dusk one behaves more like the one from Serious Sam.

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Also when you say convert to IL, would that be done during runtime (like how most JS/Python VMs do it) or more like a .NET approach?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:34 AM

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IL as in .NET IL

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 4:34 AM

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i dont think thats a direct SS influence

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:34 AM

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It'd be converted to a .NET assembly at load

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Possibly dumb question- is there an FGD or anything I'm missing, or do you just throw the entities in trenchbroom?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:35 AM

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The latter for now

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Gotcha gotcha

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:35 AM

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How come there aren't any Serious Sam references? It classifies as old-school.

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Ahh I see. Downside of that approach is the source files can be excluded from the final package which can kinda dissuade people from learning from other people's work

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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It's one of the last of them.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Serious Sam is a different kind of old school than the kind Dusk is going for

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Although overall I'm sure it'll be better

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Mod some in, Sean

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Yeah, but the final level before the final boss really gave me Serious Sam vibes, because of the sheer number of enemies.

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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That and the blood tornado one

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Ahh I see. Downside of that approach is the source files can be excluded from the final package which can kinda dissuade people from learning from other people's work
The IL transformation is done by the engine and the dll is never distributed with a mod

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Yeah, you're right.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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That said, mods would distribute in a separate bytecode format that the compiler outputs, so yes, they could avoid sharing source

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Oh so the IL will be generated on first run then?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Yes

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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oh

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Never mind. There's only like 33 enemies in that part.

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That's more like Doom.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I would hope that the community fosters an attitude towards sharing mod source code

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Unfortunately in the Quake community sharing of QuakeC seems to be very hit or miss

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I hope that doesn't happen here

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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right

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Is there a laser gun? I see sounds called "lazer"

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:38 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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Meat Lasses and the M16

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Something really unfortunate that's happened with HL1 modding is that tons and tons of documentation, tutorials, etc have fallen to the sands of time

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:38 AM

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pump action SSG

📎 unknown.png

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Lord knows Valve certainly hasn't helped with any of that

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Which is a shame

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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📎 unknown.png

still raptor Jan 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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We're gonna do our best to keep good docs

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Bless you kings

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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📎 unknown.png

still raptor Jan 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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We planned to have a wiki, but haven't put one up yet

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As it's way too early

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Note this build is ANCIENT which is why it looks so ugly

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Yeah

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It'll come about

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Like I said more than anything I'm stoked just to have the .wad and everything to fool around in Trenchbroom with

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I just looked up double barrel pump shotgun, and only found 1.

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The DP-12.

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Not to mention if Dusk maintains a passable level of compatibility with the Quake entities, a lot of existing documentation on Quake mapping can apply to Dusk

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:41 AM

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It's inspired by Chasm: The Rift

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You can find the single-barrel pump action shotgun in the E3 demo

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:41 AM

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func_bread's right

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:41 AM

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You should see the DP-12, though. It looks like it came outta Quake 2.

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Idk if I have the old build around somewhere but a while back I replicated a bunch of the fun HL1 entities in Unity and built a WTF-esque map

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Not to mention the Quake mapping community is super helpful, at least in my experience

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:41 AM

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if anyone remembers the WTF maps from Sven Co-op lol

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:41 AM

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oh god yeah

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Dusk WTF maps 2020

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I'm very hype for co op

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Arcane Duskmensions.

hallow fern Jan 4, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I was just thinking the other day how much I miss that era of TF2 where you'd just hop in a server and hang out with people

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would love to see that with Dusk

torpid agate Jan 4, 2020, 4:43 AM

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I opened some arcane dimensions maps in dusk today. My computer was NOT happy.

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:43 AM

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I've been here for like 6 hours. I'm still not a rat...

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Oh yeah I miss the hell out of that era. I probably spent thousands of hours just hanging out in servers of Sven Co-op and Gmod

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:44 AM

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@ancient depot have you checked the lighting thing yet

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i'm sorry if im coming across as impatient

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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which one?

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I thought I published a hotfix

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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the one i downloaded earlier?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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So just to clarify, you're trying to get fullbrights right?

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:46 AM

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yeah i just got light entities in the corners at 255 brightness

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Yeah, you need to have a BSP that doesn't have any lightmaps

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alongside the patched dll I posted before

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:46 AM

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oh

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well onto figure out how to fix that then

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:46 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586508960128040961/662869790582505472/NewBlood.dll

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this dll btw

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as long as you haven't run light on your map, it should work

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:47 AM

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well time to delete my bsp and all my lights

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:47 AM

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you can keep the lights in your map

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just re-run qbsp

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:47 AM

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so all i have to do is re-run qbsp?

torpid agate Jan 4, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Just recompile the .map without the light option ye

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:47 AM

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yeah

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Last question for tonight.

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What's the "modio" foler?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:50 AM

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for when we support mod.io as a source

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Okay.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:50 AM

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basically an alternative to steam workshop

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:51 AM

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What's wrong with workshop, though?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:51 AM

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it's only for steam users

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so people on gog can't use it

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Oh, that's right.

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I can be really dumb sometimes.

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:52 AM

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okay i've attempted it i don't think im doing it right

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so first i deleted my bsp files

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Aight. Imma hit the hay.

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:52 AM

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g'night!

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Good night. Hopefully tomorrow I become a rat.

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:53 AM

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i did that to generate a new bsp

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uncheck run quake i accidently left that there

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:53 AM

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that should work

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:53 AM

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my map is just pitch black

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📎 unknown.png

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:53 AM

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hm, can you send over the compiled bsp?

torpid agate Jan 4, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Weird

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:53 AM

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ok

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:57 AM

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the light property on worldspawn isn't set

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:57 AM

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ah

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:57 AM

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it works if I add that

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:57 AM

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my bad

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 4:57 AM

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honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 4:58 AM

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is that
a torch

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 4:59 AM

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ye

cold latch Jan 4, 2020, 4:59 AM

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lit

urban tide Jan 4, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Wait .... the SDK is out?!?!

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 5:02 AM

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ye

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 5:02 AM

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oh

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he didn't know

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yeah

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it's been out for a day

urban tide Jan 4, 2020, 5:02 AM

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How do I get into it?

cosmic copper Jan 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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@ancient depot Im having a similar problem. waht does the light value need to be set to?

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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@urban tide look at pins

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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255 for full brightness

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you also need the dll

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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darth quick thing

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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because support for the light value isn't in the current steam build

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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actually wait i think i figured out my problem

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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feels so weird to see people calling me darth lmao, that's just a shitpost name one of the mods (probably jab) changed my nick to

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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yo how the f word do i configure trenchbroom for dusk?

urban tide Jan 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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@ebon jetty Im freaking pumped!!

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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At the moment you map as if you were mapping for quake

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But you can use some Dusk entities if you enter their names manually

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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i didn't know

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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the list of entities is in entities.txt

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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ye that too

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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oh alright thanx

cosmic copper Jan 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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ok, so the light jsut ahs to be a constant value for now?

quiet harness Jan 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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trying to change a song file but i've been running into a bunch of problems. ive re-named it to the file i want to change (e3m10_action_1), ive put it in a folder named what ive chosen (C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Dusk\SDK\mnt\local\test\music) and tried putting it in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Dusk\SDK\mnt\local\music but nothing seems to be working. What am I doing wrong bros?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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yes

cosmic copper Jan 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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ok

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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@quiet harness you can't replace music currently

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that's coming soon

quiet harness Jan 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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o

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whups

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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ye

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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music/enemy sounds dosent work for now

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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^

quiet harness Jan 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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alright thanks yall

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Hm. I used the dusk wad for trenchbroom and set trenchbroom up to use that (configured for Quake), but the textures aren't showing up

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Am I missing something?

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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it shoudl be there if you added it in your texture collections

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Yeah I added it to my texture collections in trenchbroom and I see it in the editor

last berry Jan 4, 2020, 5:19 AM

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what mods have been publicly uploaded yet?

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 5:21 AM

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there's a moddb

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there's probably a few others on here but everyone is still messing around with it

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mainly mapsa re going to be the things we'll see here soon

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 5:29 AM

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feels kinda bad to upload maps which are way way worse in quality than some others here

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also
soooo is there a way to make key-locked doors yet? they arent working for me
like they work in quake but not in dusk

iron needle Jan 4, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Yes there is

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My computer is off atm but @ancient depot can check to see which pair passes the key color

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:31 AM

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sec

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 5:32 AM

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i'm boutta just upload half-life to the moddb page for dusk

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:32 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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it's just "key"

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value is a number

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lemme check what numbers correspond to which keys

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1 for red
2 for blue
3 for yellow

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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alright thank you
and to make a key spawn in dusk i just need to name an entity according to the entities.txt?
i'm not good at this

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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yes

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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alright gotcha

iron needle Jan 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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I'll pin that just for the moment in case anyone else asks

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Oh it's a bunch of messages

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Meh w/e

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:34 AM

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yeah sec

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HOW DO I LOCK DOORS?
You can set a "key" value on your func_door entities, which is a number from 1 to 3.
1 for red, 2 for blue, 3 for yellow

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iron needle Jan 4, 2020, 5:35 AM

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👍

fiery badge Jan 4, 2020, 5:37 AM

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So unused weapons and enemies are still in the code? And we could possible recreate them?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:37 AM

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We'll be making them actual usable weapons later on

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So you can use them in your maps

fiery badge Jan 4, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Neato

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 5:38 AM

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gamer style

fiery badge Jan 4, 2020, 5:39 AM

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I'm guessing you arent gonna do that for enemies as well

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:39 AM

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We will

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Yeah still not getting textures even though I've changed some things around. Not sure what I'm missing here; using the Dusk wad and everything like I think I'm supposed to?

fiery badge Jan 4, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Oh. Ok. It's just that the green headless guy and brown uniform gas mask soldiers are practically already in the game as the mage and black phillip, I guess they would be useful for industrial themed maps

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:40 AM

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@lament ore do you have palette.lmp?

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 5:42 AM

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o

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my brain did not absorb that information since originally I was doing HL1 maps oops lol

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thx

keen bay Jan 4, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Running into a lot of road blocks on the Tnt Map 1 spite project, anyone have Valve Hammer and is willing to help?

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Adding palette.lmp from here did not work

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https://quakewiki.org/wiki/Quake_palette#palette.lmp

Quake palette

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 5:44 AM

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where did you put it?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 5:45 AM

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It has to go in the mount root, so mnt/local/mymod

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just outside of your maps folder

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alternatively you can put it in mnt/local/dusk so it's always loaded

lament ore Jan 4, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Tried both locations, no luck

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Also tried the palette.lmp from the steam pak0, no change

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ok I got it

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I needed the palette.lmp and I also need to do absolute path on the wad

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https://twitter.com/func_bread/status/1213339588137123840?s=20

Bread (@func_bread)

Dave room.
Dave room.

#dusk

proven bramble Jan 4, 2020, 6:04 AM

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dave room dave room

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shave room rave room

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 6:15 AM

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big john room

fierce lava Jan 4, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Where is the houlihan room?

proven bramble Jan 4, 2020, 6:21 AM

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so for trenchbroom do i just start a q1 map and load in this wad thingy some how?

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or do i go generic

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 6:24 AM

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I use q1 yes
then on the right panel click on "Face"
and down below "Texture collections"
you need to add one - and that is where you select the wad

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 6:25 AM

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@ancient depot How would one get jump pads to work

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 6:25 AM

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place object_jump_pad and set its "amount" value

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 6:26 AM

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ty

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 6:26 AM

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how much "amount" do you need for a jump pad to be ~2x as strong as a normal jump

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 6:26 AM

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teleporters are similar, place object_teleporter and set its target

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 6:26 AM

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25 makes me hit a high ceiling pretty quickly

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 6:26 AM

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25 would be 25 in unity units

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which is like 25 meters lmao

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 6:27 AM

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oh so like
2=~2meters?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 6:27 AM

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roughly

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0.6 should be 2x a jump

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keep in mind, later we'll be scaling it down so it works in quake units

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so when that happens any maps using jump pads will need to change their values

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 6:39 AM

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my map is slowly expanding

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very slowly

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im messing with a skybox texture

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earlier i accidently used one and unless a bug happened it was animated

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but i can't replicate it

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 6:42 AM

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why the fuck do i keep making tables and stuff manually when i can just use dusk entities
i'm a dumbass

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 6:43 AM

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lmao

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 6:53 AM

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/769486180185776484/ACCD5FFFFCE779B5013BE0BA02452291FEBBD590/

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...huh

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that's.. cool?

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it destroys my ears when i touch it

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 6:54 AM

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lmao

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looks like that's another prop that needs rotation

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 6:57 AM

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i rotated it but it's still fucked

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also set the angle to -1 like i should??? probably?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 7:00 AM

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if you set euler you shouldn't set angle

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 7:01 AM

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ah i forgot about it

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uh soooo if i want props to be facing up i need to set it to uhhh
0 0 90?

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or what

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shit or 0 90 0
i'll play around with it

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 7:06 AM

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i do 90 90 90 as a default usually

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but the one you want in general is the one in the middle

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the first one rotates it horizontally

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the one that always needs to be fixed is the middle one

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 7:06 AM

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ah alright alright thanks

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 7:06 AM

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@ancient depot is there a way to get rid of the black on textures like fence and such

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 7:07 AM

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not atm

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 7:07 AM

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rip

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 7:07 AM

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we dont support transparency in q1 or hl bsp yet

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once we have texture replacement support for them you can make it use the png files in the game though

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which would fix it

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 7:08 AM

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...fuck

📎 20200104160813_1.jpg

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 7:09 AM

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hahaha

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almost

heady marsh Jan 4, 2020, 7:17 AM

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im gonna repaint dusk once i figure out where to use the sdk and how to swap textures

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 7:18 AM

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check the pins to get started!

heady marsh Jan 4, 2020, 7:21 AM

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i shall... tomorrow after i sleep

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 7:28 AM

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it's probably a bit strong but i finally did it

📎 2020-01-04_16-27-01.mp4

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 7:28 AM

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"a bit"

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lmao

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 7:29 AM

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yeah a bit

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1/2 of it should do the job probably

chrome wagon Jan 4, 2020, 7:50 AM

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e2m6 jumppad have some competition now

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 7:50 AM

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what if i crank up that thing to 999

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📎 999_amount.mp4

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 7:56 AM

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📎 custommap.mp4

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this is my custom map at the moment though i still don't know about the enemy placement. i like the general layout and the bigger area i need to straighten out some of the props lying around

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also changing textures as many are darker

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and as such it feels a little muddy

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 7:57 AM

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my data would be screwed if i downloaded a video
maybe the bsp file to try it out?

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 7:57 AM

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i didn't realize how big it was

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just a sec

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i don't want to share the bsp yet because it's very unfinished as silly as that sounds

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i guess in a way im showing what i want to be shown

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wrong emote lol

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 7:58 AM

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that made me laugh tho

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i think i am mostly done with the first "introduction" level for my tiny episode
it mostly sucks and is very very short but i dont want the first level to be long
i fixed up textures and used more dusk ones, fixed entities and now key doors actually work
(you need a quake 1 palette because i used some quake textures, but if you dont mind go for it anyway)

📎 first.bsp

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 8:00 AM

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the video should kick in on this one if not i'll cave in and upload bsp

📎 condensed.mp4

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the problem is my map essentially ahs

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one room

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:01 AM

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mind if i ask how the hell did you get torches

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 8:01 AM

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i put an entity down and change it's classname to object_torch

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and then using the new dll file pinned add a property called euler

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:02 AM

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oh there is a torch object? didnt see it

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 8:02 AM

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yep

tawdry plank Jan 4, 2020, 8:02 AM

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and he's called torch guy so.....

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I'm sorry

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 8:03 AM

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i didn't even upload the right video

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oops

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it's not that different from what it is now

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very little different

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 8:05 AM

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📎 Dusk_WaRaAvTnvt.png

ebon jetty Jan 4, 2020, 8:05 AM

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there we go that's the right one

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📎 2020-01-04_02-41-24-1.mp4

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 8:12 AM

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does the sdk support animated textures yet

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 8:12 AM

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no

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 8:12 AM

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darn

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:13 AM

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there is no straight up fire entity yet right?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 8:14 AM

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no but there's object_campfire

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:15 AM

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that will do, thanks

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 8:16 AM

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oh and object_burn_barrel for the burning barrel

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:17 AM

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is there a way to make that fire activated from the start?

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the campfire one

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 8:19 AM

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not currently

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I'll add it to our todo list

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:20 AM

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'ight thanks :)

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 8:20 AM

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done

📎 unknown.png

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:20 AM

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aw yiss

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 8:26 AM

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where are the nargle voice lines?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:30 AM

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in "sounds"
just in that folder - start with nargle_

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 8:30 AM

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ah yeah there they are

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'i was looking in vo

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wait no

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those are just sound effects

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:31 AM

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huh those are sounds yea

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 8:31 AM

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here's the nargle line you're looking for

📎 hentai.wav

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:32 AM

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what the FUCK

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 8:33 AM

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god i can't wait to get those outtakes

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:33 AM

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i am a very weird person but this sound makes me laugh

📎 die.flac

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 8:34 AM

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oh oops

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we forgot to export the nargle VO

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will note that down in our todo

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it's not with all the other sounds so we must've missed it

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 8:38 AM

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jusk is finished

#

📎 juskv1.zip

supple radish Jan 4, 2020, 8:38 AM

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yay

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:38 AM

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let's see it in action

supple radish Jan 4, 2020, 8:39 AM

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its as finished as the sdk is

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 8:42 AM

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you know

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the leatherneck john looks so
weird

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it's actually creepy

supple radish Jan 4, 2020, 8:42 AM

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yeah

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have fun with the other enemies

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 8:50 AM

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morning begins with jusk

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i like that

modern wave Jan 4, 2020, 8:55 AM

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SDK is out?

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 8:56 AM

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it's in alpha or beta

modern wave Jan 4, 2020, 8:56 AM

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So its not out

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 8:56 AM

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many things aren't working right now

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well you can do some stuff

modern wave Jan 4, 2020, 8:56 AM

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BigThink

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 8:58 AM

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@ancient depot level transitions seems to be broken

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i completed e1m1 and it errored instead of getting me to e1m2

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@half vessel you made masterpiece, you even replaced hups

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that's beautiful

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 9:01 AM

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not all me

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 9:01 AM

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this sounds so goddamn good i want to use it in a map

📎 david_example_1.flac

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 9:01 AM

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@supple radish did about half of the monsters

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 9:02 AM

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you two made a masterpiece

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Vriska yeah it sounds good

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is that something unused?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 9:03 AM

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from the e3 demo i think

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 9:03 AM

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ah i see

supple radish Jan 4, 2020, 9:06 AM

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wwo

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 9:06 AM

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i'm gonna be a bastard and ask again
can we have a separate channel for completed mods/maps? they get easily lost in here

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i assume workshop is a long way away form here sooo

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 9:15 AM

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@long anchor do you have e1m2 in the files and is it in a loaded mod?

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or wait

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do you mean dusk e1m1?

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 9:21 AM

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yeah, i mean dusk campaign

fierce lava Jan 4, 2020, 9:22 AM

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same for me, it either restarts the map or simply does that error with the "Escape" menu

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 9:25 AM

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interesting

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will look into it

night nacelle Jan 4, 2020, 9:31 AM

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https://puu.sh/EWgvy/65650e337e.png how do i make lighting

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 9:34 AM

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place any entity and name it "light"

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if you're using quake1 preset just place light entity since it's in entity list

night nacelle Jan 4, 2020, 9:35 AM

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do i compile it with LIGHT in the compiler as well?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 9:57 AM

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yes, after qbsp you run light to bake the lighting

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trenchbroom automates that when you tick LIGHT

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 10:00 AM

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mod iea

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idea

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when scripting & custom models are supported

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i'm gonna make BUSK

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replace all the weapons with instruments

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dusk dude

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busk bum

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 10:04 AM

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those instruments kill with magic music projectiles or by killing ears?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 10:18 AM

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question
how exactly are mods uploaded to moddb? is someone uploading them or can we do it ourselves

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 10:18 AM

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you do it yourself

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 10:21 AM

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is it ok to drop things into "addons" if they are just a map or whatever

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Yes, it may take some time to show up in the list after you finish the upload cause it needs to be reviewed

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 10:35 AM

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http://skrinshoter.ru/i/040120/4gZxMNfS.png
that's so fucking stupid i love it
it's staying in

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 10:44 AM

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i was just looking through oshry's twitter and half of the past 24 hours is just big john

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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holy shit, why is the basketball texture so good for industrial looking rusty metal

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http://skrinshoter.ru/i/040120/fhIgCAZE.png

hollow laurel Jan 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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huh

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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huh

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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seriosuly wtf

hollow laurel Jan 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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some nice light on that, and yeah

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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wonder if it'll look weird in game

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 10:54 AM

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i'll try it out

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http://skrinshoter.ru/i/040120/rqn8FSQ8.png
it'll probably be better with some nice lighting and maybe if i shift it around, but overall it's a bit too orange i think

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Do I have to study the Trenchbroom to create maps or are there alternative ways?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:01 AM

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hammer for example

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 11:02 AM

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you can use whatever map editor that exports/compiles in supported by sdk formats and let you define custom entities

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:05 AM

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(trenchbroom is really easy though and helps with the retro aesthetic imo)

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:06 AM

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^

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Are supported formats listed here?

hollow laurel Jan 4, 2020, 11:06 AM

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the first pin (lowest in the list)

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 11:06 AM

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• You can load Quake 1, Half-Life and Quake 3 BSP files (including BSP2, not to be confused with Quake 2)

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:07 AM

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@honest stag Maybe I'll try. The Hammer seemed difficult to me when I first started, but it was a long time ago.

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 11:08 AM

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tho Zombie says Q3 bsp has limited support for now

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:08 AM

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@fringe nymph @hollow laurel many thanks

hollow laurel Jan 4, 2020, 11:08 AM

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trenchbroom i found to be way easier to use, once i got used to how it works

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 11:08 AM

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but for now it works without issues

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:09 AM

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yeah same, hammer was a mess for me
trenchbroom felt like an easier verison of it tbh

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:09 AM

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Any tutorials? All I found on YouTube was dumptrack_ds.

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:10 AM

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he is amazing

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there is kinda no need for other tutorials - some of the stuff he doesnt explain (which isnt much) can be found on the super helpful trenchbroom manual

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:10 AM

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hmm

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:10 AM

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he shows everything with examples

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even how to set it up in the first place

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Okay, I'll take a closer look. Thank you

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:11 AM

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np, have fun mapping :)

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:13 AM

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🙂

dense locust Jan 4, 2020, 11:13 AM

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Can I have some help please? I have problems with light https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/662601513134456844/662976759049879552/20200104161118_1.jpg?width=400&height=212

hollow laurel Jan 4, 2020, 11:14 AM

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light is not working properly yet, so don't bother too much with it

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:14 AM

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lights work weird for now

dense locust Jan 4, 2020, 11:14 AM

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ok thx

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:16 AM

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i guess this texture don't work properly too

📎 20200104171533_1.jpg

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:16 AM

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Oh, does anyone know anything about custom models now? Can I, for example, make a model in Blender and then convert it to one that supports Dusk? Or should I use something else...

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:17 AM

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not now

hollow laurel Jan 4, 2020, 11:17 AM

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not yet, model importing is high on their to-do list

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so, in one of the first larger updates

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 11:18 AM

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making models rn wouldn't be a bad idea though

hollow laurel Jan 4, 2020, 11:18 AM

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yeah, since you'd have something ready to convert, though no clue about formats

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 11:18 AM

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unless something weird happens and they become incompatible

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Oh, thank you all, I'll keep an eye on that. I guess I'll leave now.

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:22 AM

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welp, my map aint loading anymore

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for some reason

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:23 AM

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trashcans are white for some reason

📎 20200104171935_1.jpg

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that's lights!

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lighting screws them up lol

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:26 AM

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the roof of prop_shed is white too

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http://skrinshoter.ru/i/040120/XuNO4qBh.png

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trashbags are fine tho

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:27 AM

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I'm a little confused, where do I download Trenchbroom? On MODDB? And will I only be able to use it with the first Quake in Steam?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:28 AM

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nope, it supports a lot of games

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i think dumptruck's tutorials have a link to trenchbroom

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in one of the "setiing up" tutorials

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with software which you'll need for compiling maps

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cool how just 1 candle can make a shitty room feel warm and cozy

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http://skrinshoter.ru/i/040120/Pqf1aaxU.png

wooden pier Jan 4, 2020, 11:30 AM

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I'm a fool, thank you.

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 11:40 AM

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hey thats a quite decent geometry up there

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:40 AM

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http://skrinshoter.ru/i/040120/q1jrt3Vf.png
thing dont work :(

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btw the couch is a dusk prop

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 11:41 AM

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oh, so some geometry

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:42 AM

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i wish these celling lights actually emitted light

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they look nice

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and they fit the industrial theme

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:45 AM

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how did you place em

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or it's object_objname

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:46 AM

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object_light_fixture_1

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there are 3 but havent tried the others yet

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:48 AM

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is there any way to place streetlight properly?

📎 20200104174719_1.jpg

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i changed angle to -1 but it didn't help

spiral dragon Jan 4, 2020, 11:48 AM

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I look forward to playing all these abominations

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:49 AM

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try 0 90 0
or 90 0 90

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oh wait you should add a property called "euler"

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and then try leaving it a 0 0 0

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:49 AM

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i'll try

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nah

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:50 AM

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can i see the properties?

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if 0 0 0 doesnt work, try 0 90 0

true vale Jan 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Damn Icarus and Civvie in here, this is truly the best boomer discord

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

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http://skrinshoter.ru/i/040120/cXDsZbxo.png
found a pretty good use for lampposts by shoving them into the ground

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

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it's like properties do absolutely nothing

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:52 AM

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they do, they are lifesavers
can you screenshot them for your lamppost?

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i might help

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:52 AM

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that's example with euler

📎 props.png

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with both angle and euler it don't change with different numbers

summer dagger Jan 4, 2020, 11:53 AM

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dude, i was literally going to bed (9 am in my country) AND THE SDK HAD TO COME OUT

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:53 AM

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basically the three numbers are x y z i think

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angle isnt working i think

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:53 AM

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euler too

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:54 AM

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just to be sure - is your NewBlood.dll latest?

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:54 AM

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ofc

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:54 AM

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weird
have you tried various numbers? like 180 180 180

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or 90 0 90

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:54 AM

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oh oh

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i rotated it with alt+left and it rotated

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:55 AM

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i dont think it's going to rotate in-game that way tho

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but if it works - good

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:55 AM

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it rotated

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 11:55 AM

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holy shit nice

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never worked for me

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is there a way to use ambient music for now?

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 11:58 AM

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i think no

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i named sounds in worldspawn both "e1m1_ambient" and 'e1m1_ambient.flac" and nothing happened

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so i guess it's not working

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:04 PM

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shame

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... how
the lamppost on the left and on the right are the same entity but 1 isnt working????
http://skrinshoter.ru/i/040120/JMXTRACN.png

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oh wait no they arent
on the right is lamppost 1
on the left is lamppost 2

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...ok

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 12:16 PM

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📎 20200104181549_1.jpg

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@honest stag so you can actually rotate light posts?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:18 PM

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yeah

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i mean you rotated yours right?

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 12:18 PM

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kinda

balmy thorn Jan 4, 2020, 12:18 PM

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I'm guessing all the props you've rotated will be screwed up again once a patch addresses the issue 😛

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 12:18 PM

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everything still looks like this

📎 20200104181819_1.jpg

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:18 PM

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still i would say keep screwing around with euler
it's supposed to work

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alright my euler is 0 0 90

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and they look normal

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:19 PM

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I'm guessing all the props you've rotated will be screwed up again once a patch addresses the issue 😛
Yes

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:19 PM

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wait no i lied

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0 90 0

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:19 PM

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If this wasn't a super early alpha we wouldn't be able to make changes like that

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but luckily we can

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 12:19 PM

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ok i'll try euler again

balmy thorn Jan 4, 2020, 12:19 PM

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I'm going to do some basic geometry etc, but I'll stay away from props for now.

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:19 PM

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eh, those things are to be expected this early
i'll have to replace some textures with png's too

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eventually

balmy thorn Jan 4, 2020, 12:20 PM

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@honest stag Never said otherwise 😉

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:22 PM

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i saw someone changing the light color of some lightposts

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anyone knows how? adding a color property didnt work

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 12:23 PM

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i don't know, sorry

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:27 PM

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@ebon jetty sorry to ping you, but how did you change the color on your lightposts? much thanks

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 12:28 PM

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i've got mod idea

📎 2020-01-04_18-26-19.mp4

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you can send corpses to the air with 1 pistol shot, with scripting it might be possible to disable gibbing and make something like goal system

plain lantern Jan 4, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Excited for Dusk Mod that replaces the doctors with the scientists from HL1 with their voice clips and everything.

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"Don't worry. I am a doctor."

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:29 PM

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You can't change the colour of light posts

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:29 PM

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the guy i saw had blue ones

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Might just be using another object

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:30 PM

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he posted a video too

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hm
i tried other lightposts but they didnt emit any light

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weird

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:30 PM

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object_lamp?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:31 PM

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i'll try it, but isnt that just a lamp
the guy had the same lamppost model as me but the light color was different

versed wind Jan 4, 2020, 12:31 PM

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is it possible to change map textures at all?

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or textures of the text on the walls?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Not yet

versed wind Jan 4, 2020, 12:31 PM

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eg: "WE TRADED GOD FOR DEMONS"

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:31 PM

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some textures can

versed wind Jan 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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ah okay

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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i managed to replace some world textures

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Well, actually

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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like concrete

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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If you make your own wad you can

versed wind Jan 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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hmm

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so you compile your altered textures into a wad?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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So basically make a folder and put some PNGs in there

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Build a wad using that with our MakeWad tool

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and add that to your map

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and you can override dusk textures with it

versed wind Jan 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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how would we do that for base dusk maps?

elfin warren Jan 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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That should solve some of the problems

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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For the original maps you can already replace textures

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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yeah

versed wind Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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oh really?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Yup

versed wind Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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i havent been able to

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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some textures can be

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some can't

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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They need to have the exact same file names as the original textures

versed wind Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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yeah

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Even if they're a different image type

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We support PNG and JPG only

versed wind Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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i've been trying to replace the bloody text on the walls

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:33 PM

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If you're replacing a PNG with a JPG, your JPG still needs to end in .png

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:34 PM

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text might not be supported yet

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like dopefish

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Here's makewad btw https://github.com/NewBloodInteractive/MakeWad/releases

GitHub

NewBloodInteractive/MakeWad

Generate a WAD2 file from a folder filled with PNG images - NewBloodInteractive/MakeWad

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You run it using command prompt

elfin warren Jan 4, 2020, 12:34 PM

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I'll see if that works

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:35 PM

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wait i thought png's arent supported yet?

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Make a folder to put all your textures in, put that folder in the same place as makewad.exe
Grab palette.lmp, put that in the folder too
While the folder is open in Windows explorer, type cmd into the address bar to open a command prompt in that folder
Type makewad textureFolderName palette.lmp mywad.wad

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PNGs were always supported, we just don't support replacing textures inside a Q1 or HL BSP with them yet

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:35 PM

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ah alright

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:37 PM

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does anyone know where the npc textures are in hl1

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i'm looking through the wads and i haven't found them yet

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 12:37 PM

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pretty sure those are embedded inside the .mdl files

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 12:38 PM

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uhm

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i found weird thing about monsters

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i can move them

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ingame i mean

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before they see the player

proper cargo Jan 4, 2020, 12:39 PM

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@half vessel yep, look in .mdl files

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You can use for example Jed's HL model Viewer, pretty easy tool to work with

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 12:41 PM

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📎 2020-01-04_18-39-06.mp4

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wtf

proper cargo Jan 4, 2020, 12:42 PM

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open model with tool, dump textures, edit them in program of your choose and replace them back

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:42 PM

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stiff as a statue

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where are those .mdl files anyway

prime finch Jan 4, 2020, 12:43 PM

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eyes

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:43 PM

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wait

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i'm stupid

prime finch Jan 4, 2020, 12:43 PM

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is...
is it time?

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is that...
the mythical SDK i see?

proper cargo Jan 4, 2020, 12:43 PM

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@half vessel \Half-Life\valve\models

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(that is for current steam version of hl btw)

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:44 PM

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ye i found it

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 12:44 PM

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@prime finch it's alpha alpha

prime finch Jan 4, 2020, 12:46 PM

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aPeepoCheer

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:48 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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hm

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this was not a smart idea

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

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phew
i spent an entire day today making this
it's about 40% done (if you exclude some stuff i'll be adding with future patches)
it's the second map of my "episode", if you wanna try it out here you go

📎 crash.bsp

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literally consists out of 2 rooms so far but i'm proud

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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uh

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

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oh god

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

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why does this feel like max headroom all of a sudden

gritty forge Jan 4, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Brave man smokes while facing his deepest fears

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 12:58 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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they're very jank

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this is gonna need more work

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 12:58 PM

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dont use jumppad in vriska's map

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 12:59 PM

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the sign clearly says "DONT"

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i should put that behind a secret door or something

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 12:59 PM

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absolutely dont even think about it

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:00 PM

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now when you said that i really want to use jumppad

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:01 PM

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dew it

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 1:01 PM

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don't

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:01 PM

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I WILL YOU CANT STAHP ME BIGJOHN

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:02 PM

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AH

little bay Jan 4, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Dusk Milsim Mod (Arma3 Base) + Graphical Enhancements || FACTIONS UPDATE

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:02 PM

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WHY THE FUCK DID JUSK LOAD

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I HAVE IT OFF

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I GO AROUND A CORNER AND I'M GREETED BY THIS

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:02 PM

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oh btw yeah it doesnt matter how much i turn it off

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it just... turns back on

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jusk is fucking cursed

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:02 PM

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📎 unknown.png

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:02 PM

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oh by the way

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you need the quake palette

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📎 palette.lmp

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:03 PM

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ah

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where do i put it

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maps?

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:03 PM

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uhm

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Vriska?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:03 PM

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outside of the bsp

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yes?

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:03 PM

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also dear god that bounce pad

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:03 PM

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remember when you asked about dll?

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:03 PM

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what the fuck is going on with the rifle

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:03 PM

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📎 20200104190305_1.jpg

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📎 20200104190309_1.jpg

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:03 PM

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lol i love that jump pad

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my man i think you dont have it
or i dont have it

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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what dll are you talking about?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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i'm 100% sure i installed all of them

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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as far as i remember there were 2

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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i put the palette in maps

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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yes?

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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didn't work

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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no no

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outside of maps

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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ah

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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like next to it

winged wolf Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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@half vessel put the lmp before the maps folder, so sdk>mnt>local>dusk

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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ye

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in the root

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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This is the current dll

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586508960128040961/662869790582505472/NewBlood.dll

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:05 PM

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if i'm the one that fucked up i will cry

winged wolf Jan 4, 2020, 1:05 PM

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(or whatever your mod is named)

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 1:05 PM

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CURRENT HOTFIX
Replace original file in SDK -> bin -> win_x64 -> Dusk_Data -> Managed
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586508960128040961/662869790582505472/NewBlood.dll

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long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:05 PM

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maybe i missed that one

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was sleepin you know

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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try it out
if it doesnt work then i'm the one who fucked up

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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seriously wtf is this bounce pad

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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wtf

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honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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lol that is NOT my mod

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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cause it's mine

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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the jump pad sends you to HELL

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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and i turned it off i think

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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leathernecks with jusk are fucking cursed

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my friend made them

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:07 PM

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ok i'm trying the jump pad

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cya

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:07 PM

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there he goes

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:07 PM

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they look so fucking dopey from above

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honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:08 PM

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there are 4 secrets on my map

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:08 PM

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i'm guessing the button doesn't work?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:08 PM

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tell me if you found them because i need to make sure they arent too hidden

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yeah not yet

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:08 PM

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wTf Is ThAt

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honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:08 PM

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lol

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spaghetti weapons

fringe nymph Jan 4, 2020, 1:08 PM

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mortar is the best tho

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:09 PM

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i found two secrets

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:09 PM

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i didn't find any for some reason

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:09 PM

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three

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:09 PM

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does ssg counts as a secret or not?

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:09 PM

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yes
is it not triggering?

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:10 PM

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nope

ancient depot Jan 4, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Yeah, looks like you were flung so far out of the map that your location was so huge Unity was unable to render the models properly because the vertex coordinates were too large for 32-bit float precision to handle

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:10 PM

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'ight i'll fix it

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:10 PM

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it triggers but

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it's off to the left

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:10 PM

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lol holy fuck that jump pad

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:10 PM

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jump pad bends reality

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:10 PM

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i love this little camera

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stupid details like this are probably my favourite part of mapping

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i should make some maps for dusk

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:10 PM

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ah wait i know what happened
basically i tried making the entire map bigger and some stuff didnt move for some reason

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i'll just move the triggers

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but so far secrets are -
ssg behind the escape pod
riveter on the crane thing (reached by placing any box)
empty secret on the barrels (there should be a HH but it stopped showing up, i'll re add it later)
and 2 shotguns below the stairs

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shouldnt be too hard to find right? i hope

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:12 PM

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i didn't find shotguns

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ok i found it

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you can put another one here

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honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:13 PM

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man i love this
i always wanted to make maps for something just because how fun it is

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:13 PM

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it is fun indeed

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:14 PM

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oh i kinda wanted the player to not climb the fence because you can fall out of the map
but that's a great idea actually

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thanks for the tip

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:14 PM

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np

versed wind Jan 4, 2020, 1:15 PM

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anyone know if there's a way to disable enemy AI

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:16 PM

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no i think

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:16 PM

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isnt there a cheat code for it?

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:16 PM

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maybe there's notarget cheat

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:16 PM

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yeah a cheatcode for that would be good

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:16 PM

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@honest stag yep new dll fixed problems

honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:17 PM

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eyyy nice

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:17 PM

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if jusk would stop turning itself on automatically

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that'd be nice

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honest stag Jan 4, 2020, 1:17 PM

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maybe the lamppost on your map can be rotated now
euler was added in that patch i think

half vessel Jan 4, 2020, 1:18 PM

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oh god

long anchor Jan 4, 2020, 1:18 PM

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i'll go and eat something first