oh yeah i should be in bed by now goodbye have fun doing dusk things
#dusk-modding
peak trellis
long anchor
okay then, gonna do some research
ancient depot
long anchor
thanks
ancient depot
I'm still dying at jakoomer
ancient depot
the c word is filtered lmao
honest stag
you...will be my final... test.
sips monster
half vessel
i thought it was my internet dying
proper notch
I'm just trying to replace a bunch of sounds, and they just stop working for no reason (all the edited ones are just silent)
😑
proper notch
flac and ogg
ancient depot
hmm
misty barn
WAV gunshots don't play
little bay
misty barn
Had to convert the HLM2 sounds into FLAC
ancient depot
Even if your sound is a wav, you need to put flac in the file name if the original is flac
little bay
yeah i had to conver all mine
misty barn
Oh
ancient depot
the file name has to match exactly
little bay
oh crap really?
ancient depot
yeah
misty barn
Dammit David
little bay
off
ancient depot
dammit zombie*
viscid sinew
Flac is the way to go then
misty barn
Dammit David is a bit funnier
ancient depot
was a deliberate decision by me because we're adding proper sound replacement features later
where you can change the path that sounds use
viscid sinew
I edit then convert all of my sounds to flac using audacity
had no issues thus far
Really... proud? of my shotgun sound replacement
drowsy pier
well guys, the cell shaded mod didn't turn out the way I wanted to
ancient depot
@proper notch can you send me a small example mod showcasing the silent audio?
drowsy pier
so Ima have to go through everything
viscid sinew
Best of luck
proper notch
Nvm I fixed it by selecting the mod and putting it in highest piority in the main menu
drowsy pier
unless someone beats me to it, ima beat up all night
and ima try to get out it first thing in the morning
ancient depot
ah yeah thatd do it
viscid sinew
sounds real interesting keen on seeing it
ancient depot
and yeah I'm excited to see that @drowsy pier
drowsy pier
Im trying to do that, and im trying to force the fucking game to take my models
little bay
ancient depot
that was actually the loading screen at one point
viscid sinew
nice
ancient depot
it predates episode 2
small gate
lorem ipsum is an art
drowsy pier
@ancient depot I think I can trick the SDK to take custom models, but so far it's resisting
ancient depot
I wouldn't recommend it tbh
a lot of effort for something you can't easily distribute
still raptor
You'll get a patch pretty soon for support anyways
drowsy pier
It's more of a challenge I guess While I fuck with these textures
ivory magnet
Just wait
little bay
there are a lot of unused joke textures
little bay
drowsy pier
amuwau
gritty forge
@drowsy pier Right now?
long anchor
it's being used actually
fierce lava
beggars cant be choosers
gritty forge
Just Mod it in ™️
drowsy pier
Im working on that
anyway, back to the grind
@ancient depot if I find a breaththru, i'll let you know
ancient depot
@little bay do a flip is actually used
drowsy pier
@darth but I doubt it
viscid iris
I just want the base game with more enemies!!! Not e3m9 like that's just silly but yeah, more enemies!!! (And less ammo, base game give you too much things)
drowsy pier
@ancient depot nice coding btw, shit is pretty clean
ancient depot
yeah your best bet would be to use SB3Utility to replace models or something but itd be a lot of work
viscid sinew
it's like that because otherwise intruder mode will be a drag @viscid iris
long anchor
@ancient depot i still can't find a way to make it work, i think i'm just an idiot 
ancient depot
what happens if you run the map in stock quake
little bay
@ancient depot really, I've never seen it, or anyone mention it
drowsy pier
@ancient depot Im trying to reroute file directories and "compile" my own. The SDK allows for some trickery when it comes to working with DUSK
ancient depot
yeah, let us know how it goes
gritty forge
I only bought dusk recently and now I see its getting mod support :D
viscid sinew
Yea it's currently in a early state
drowsy pier
@ancient depot Honestly, probably no where, because you've obviously made that hard on purpose, and allows for no room 
gritty forge
It's cool tho lel
ancient depot
hahahahaha
viscid sinew
can replace all sorts of files and load maps
gritty forge
Can I play doom in dusk
viscid sinew
music, sounds, textures, UI
little bay
small gate
undefined
viscid sinew
you can play recreated doom maps in DUSK if someone remakes them
long anchor
@ancient depot https://imgur.com/2Sx9gUn
ancient depot
yeah so for some reason your textures aren't being embedded
gritty forge
It wouldn't be that hard to make Doom in dusk
drowsy pier
@viscid sinew Is it possible to convert wads to DUSK?
long anchor
@ancient depot what you exactly do to embed them? -optionname?
half vessel
i think there's a tool that does hackjob conversions of wads to quake
so
maybe look for that
ancient depot
I'm pretty sure ericw tools is meant to embed them by default
viscid sinew
You talking DOOM.wads? if someone has made a conversion tool for wads to BSP
but wads can contain all sorts of files
ancient depot
do they show up in trenchbroom?
long anchor
yes
viscid sinew
so it would be tricky and as far as I know no one has done it
drowsy pier
When it comes to fucking converting and compiling, ima champ at that shit
so ima try that
ancient depot
hm, can you send the map file? I'll take a look at it after dinner
gritty forge
E1M1 in dusk 
drowsy pier
Thanks again for SDK guys, Ive been spouting SDK WHEN for a year now, and it was prolly the best new years gift I could've got
little bay
yeah the sdk is fun asf
half vessel
ye
ancient depot
you're very welcome
long anchor
i think maybe i did something wrong with setting up trencbroom? idk honestly
gritty forge
Modding extends a games lifespan to nearly eternal
drowsy pier
Just wish THERE WAS MORE TO TURN OVER LIKE MODELS
little bay
can't wait to check back in like a week and see all the awesome stuff the community makes
long anchor
good luck
ancient depot
gritty forge
Does dusk dude have a name
drowsy pier
yeah
gritty forge
Is it just the intruder
drowsy pier
Its Dusk Dude
viscid sinew
Too different to compare
gritty forge
Its would just be funny
"Aww butt sauce someone broke in again"
proceeds to piss on intruder
small gate
do you dare enter red_stars' magical realm?
gritty forge
In other games if you get caught on fire you try to find water
In postal 2 you piss up in the air
half vessel
piss troll
drowsy pier
@small gate LOL
@gritty forge Postal 2 was the first game I ever pirated when I was 13
drowsy pier
I DO NOT CONDONE PIRATING
gritty forge
Support rws
drowsy pier
NOR DO I ENCOURAGE It
gritty forge
Kek
gritty forge
Rws and newblood are on nearly the same epic gamer dev level
gritty forge
Dude I followed rws on twitter before I even owned or played postal
They are hilarious imo
drowsy pier
You should try modding for them as well
gritty forge
Im not good at modding
drowsy pier
it's easier then you think it is
I grinded blender our for 3 months, self taught
and I prolly have like 200 models made
animations
gritty forge
Oh fuck
drowsy pier
Should add me and show me some of your work
Im makinga game right now
I do 2d pixel art too
drowsy pier
Lots of texturing is pixel art if you think about it
easy to import export texture files
fluid nimbus
so does trenchbroom officially support dusk yet or do I need to make maps in quake/hl/whatever format still
aseprite is great
drowsy pier
Thought about getting that
gritty forge
Worth it
small gate
nobody is good at anything before they grind it
fluid nimbus
but yeah, does trenchbroom let you directly make dusk maps yet
drowsy pier
Art is art
Dusk is art
the mods that everyone making is considered art
We're all artists here
fluid nimbus
we're all clowns here
drowsy pier
Why blame the clown for being the clown, ask yourself why you continue to go to the circus?
small gate
because shitposting is cool
high magnet
Guys Dusk Piss mod
viscid sinew
@fluid nimbus Yep you can, can even make a dedicated mod for said map(s) if you wanna replace assets for your levels specifically
high magnet
torpid agate
Cute
fluid nimbus
wait did you open the sdk in unity or something
elfin ore
darth, do you know what could be causing the main menu music to cut off about 1 second after it starts?
small gate
no, I'm attempting to load doom maps on unity, no sdk involved
fluid nimbus
ah
small gate
I got curious idk
small gate
lol
fluid nimbus
rapid crown
small gate
beautiful
elfin ore
its only a matter of time before i change the cutty mines to the cummy mines
small gate
@fluid nimbus thats really cool haha
fluid nimbus
do I need to redownload trenchbroom for dusk support or something
small gate
I love these "but why would you" efforts
ocean bane
is that a COD sniper sound?
fluid nimbus
intervention
ocean bane
bruh
fluid nimbus
someone replace all the textures in the campaign with minecraft textures please
ocean bane
i guess i have to download unity now
fluid nimbus
you don't need unity for the sdk
ocean bane
i still havent finished the concept art for my plan
fluid nimbus
has anyone tried loading forgotten sepulcher yet :^)
elfin ore
Does anyone know the ambient music that plays during head cheese's file name?
cant find it anywhere
fierce lava
@elfin ore
dusk/music/example_tension.ogg
elfin ore
ohh shit, thanks!
fierce lava
np!
heady cave
finally, big johnium
lavish spoke
Dusk mod that changes the name to John and makes everything John. Even down to the soap bubbles
heady cave
throw the bar of john at john™️
long anchor
johnhotep please
shell depot
half vessel
jusk
lavish spoke
Oh no, it's too powerful
elfin ore
oh god
fierce lava
pls how do i upload a image
well i havent been active enough to post pics so oh well
gritty forge
Is the SDK out?
fierce lava
ya
gritty forge
how do I use it?
proven vault
look in the pinned comments
proven vault
half vessel
long anchor
papa
still raptor
So where's the first user map
half vessel
we already have them
still raptor
C'mon slowpokes
long anchor
i and Darth Zombie struggling to make it work
half vessel
like worldcraft
still raptor
It's very easy
long anchor
still raptor
I can try helping when I get back
pine pelican
which one of you cutiepies is gonna import some blood gulch
gritty forge
im going to backport half life 2 to goldsrc and then port that to dusk
it will be the pro gamer move of the decade
long anchor
and Darth Zombie is coding more cool tools
still raptor
Why not make an original dusk map
gritty forge
i saw that video a while back yeah
still raptor
Bless @viscid sinew
viscid sinew
More people making original maps, the more people will get inspired to follow
still raptor
Good luck with displacements
small gate
just convert displacements to models what could go wrong
lunar shale
man ive been sitting here for 2 hours trying to figure out how to make a single dusk map
small gate
nothing I tell ya
small gate
leaks? just cover it all with a huge box
lunar shale
i think i got it more or less
viscid sinew
small gate
prop_physics? func_pushables
gritty forge
viscid sinew
Let's get this ball rolling boys!
still raptor
Pushables work!
small gate
buggy? func_vehicle babyy
honest stag
might be a question people asked 100 times but how the hell do i get dusk textures to use in trenchbroom
long anchor
lmao
half vessel
fierce lava
can we upscale textures? or will that be a feature down the line?
because the medkit is like 2 pixels lol
still raptor
You can do whatever you want to them yes
You just have to preserve the UV layout
Well you don't....have to
Just if you want to make something that looks any good at all
fierce lava
Im a simpleton so I wont bother you on how that works lol
elfin ore
model importing will be in at some point btw ye?
viscid sinew
ye soon
elfin ore
hell yeah, can't wait to fuck around with that
fierce lava
Alright I will try that out, ty
elfin ore
last vid of the night, best change yet imo 🙏
viscid sinew
Just spitballin but mapping wise I reckon make the maps a bit larger than say something like Quake which some lean on being more claustrophobic (especially the retail id maps)
I'm finding tighter spaces don't particular work great in combat
long anchor
there will be full scripting support one day, the question is: would it be possible to make new powerup or something like that?
viscid sinew
keep it for moody traversing to area to area
dense locust
long anchor
nooo why
still raptor
Yes easily @long anchor
viscid sinew
oooo
that be cool
if used cleverly, maybe even skippable with a key press
but scripting could be a hurdle
i.e. if something happens and you skip it via key press but entities are still moving about and doing their thing
long anchor
that's why i'm asking, if we will be able to script interesting stuff it's time to learn how to script stuff
still raptor
Anyways I'll wait for the first user map instead of these cursed memes
Oh hey you can post images now
Congrats
viscid sinew
On it boss
fluid nimbus
they should add some text related to modding support in the fakedos bootscreen
for shits & giggles
still raptor
Maybe in the future
half vessel
no more linking like a peasant
still raptor
The fakedos thing should eventually be skippable actually
fluid nimbus
ay
still raptor
Which will be cool I guess
honest stag
mine doesnt have textures and i intended for it to have a key, it's also smol but that's intentional as it is a spaceship
basically
you wake up in the cargo sector and fight your way to the command bridge for a key that unlocks the escape pod
i dunno if i should wait for proper textures or just drop it here
it's REALLY tiny
like 4 rooms
still raptor
You should be able to do proper textures
viscid sinew
I was thinking maybe for potential mapjams the fakedos video can be replaced for a thematically appropriate one or a glitchy variant in reference to the jam's theme
still raptor
Send me the .map if you can
fluid nimbus
I think you have to export it as a bsp
fluid nimbus
ah
still raptor
You do, but the .map is the raw data so I can see their texture references
fluid nimbus
didnt pay attention
honest stag
basically i couldnt figure out how to use dusk textures because i cant point trenchbroom at just a folder
it needs a was or whatever
wad*
half vessel
uh
fluid nimbus
since there's no "dusk" option in trenchbroom, can I just make a quake 3 map on there without owning quake 3 and use it in dusk
I have quake 1 and can make maps for that but I hate having to use texture wads in editor
half vessel
i may have done a bad thing
viscid sinew
urm
fluid nimbus
but yeah anyone?
honest stag
i used quake 1 textures to see which is which part, i intended other ones but yeah i cant figure out how to put them
still raptor
I'll post some instructions here shortly
fluid nimbus
it just sucks to see shitty versions of textures in trenchbroom instead of the actual textures
ay
wooden pier
Hey, everybody. I'm teaching a blender now, I'd like to make a couple of custom models and I'd like to know more about them. Like a format or maybe I should work in another program at all.
honest stag
'ight thanks a lot :)
fluid nimbus
"teaching a blender"
that's gonna be complicated
still raptor
If you'd prefer to use that
honest stag
oh that would be really useful actually
wooden pier
It doesn't seem so difficult right now.
fluid nimbus
this has meme format potential
wooden pier
Well, the style of the game would be easy to convey, I hope.
fluid nimbus
big john is getting really excited watching a football match
viscid sinew
Blender is a lot of things really
fluid nimbus
blender should be easier for newbies post 2.8 tho
viscid sinew
Yea seems more accessible now
torpid agate
I got rtcw bsps and textures to load
viscid sinew
Noice
fluid nimbus
how do I refresh assets?
half vessel
@fluid nimbus type nbrefresh
fluid nimbus
isn't there no console tho
fluid nimbus
ah
fluid nimbus
didn't do anything
drowsy pier
ima run into a wall of knives
fluid nimbus
I don't have a mod menu, I'm in the beta & updated etc
viscid sinew
Damn yea it's best to make a separate mod folder in mnt/local and make backups of it
drowsy pier
D:\Program Files (x86)\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Dusk\SDK
go into that
or where it is
viscid sinew
sorry to hear you lost that progress
drowsy pier
and open dusk_win.bat
fluid nimbus
I have the sdk folder & all
drowsy pier
Open the .bat file
fluid nimbus
with a txt editor?
drowsy pier
@viscid sinew for some stupid dumbass reason, I copy and pasted the normal files
over my updated ones
@fluid nimbus no, you should just double click on it
or open with cmd
fluid nimbus
ah
viscid sinew
yea don't overwrite the dusk folder I reckon
make a new folder and follow the file paths of the stuff you're overwriting
makes it easier to keep track of and share to folks
drowsy pier
No, I copy and pasted all the textures into a seperate file, then remade them, and then when I dragged and dropped them into the supposed mod file, I did the reg ones into the modded folder
like a fucking idiot
fluid nimbus
oof no texture and piss skybox
fluid nimbus
"palette.lmp"
the fock is that
fluid nimbus
what's the best map format to use on trenchbroom anyway to make maps for dusk
quake2?
fluid nimbus
I need a palette.lmp apparently with my quake 1 map
fluid nimbus
I mean, quake 3 has non wad textures but is partly broken in dusk and experimental in trenchbroom
drowsy pier
I do believe @ancient depot said that is bethedsa property
so it doesnt come with dusk
fluid nimbus
I'm using custom textures though
ancient depot
Yeah you can use any palette.lmp as long as it's compatible with the map you're loading
supple cradle
Will the palette.lmp make my imported quake 1 maps use the correct textures?
ancient depot
yeah
for quake 1 maps you need our texture wad though
which I am generating literally right now
fluid nimbus
so even if I use custom textures with different names etc palette will make it work properly
supple cradle
aah, I see. Thanks for the answer!
ancient depot
it won't even try to load the textures without palette.lmp
drowsy pier
@ancient depot my man
fluid nimbus
ah
supple cradle
I'm impressed how easy it is to load quake maps, though. I tried some of the xmas jam maps and O Terrorbaum loaded fine - just untextured.
fluid nimbus
where can I find the palette.lmp in quake 1
did a search in darkplaces and it aint there
gritty forge
think it's in pak0 or somethin
torpid agate
Ye it is
fluid nimbus
how tf do I open a pak
ancient depot
you can find it on the quake wiki pretty easily
gritty forge
GCFScape
ancient depot
someone linked it here before
ancient depot
Note that the issue is that ericw tools doesn't support texture folders
hence the need for a wad
honest stag
where do we drop the palette again?
fluid nimbus
I have a bunch of .lmp but not palette.lmp
ancient depot
root of a mount, so in your mod folder, just outside the maps folder
still raptor
You would just have to import entities by editing the generic.fgd
honest stag
'ight thank you
ancient depot
fluid nimbus
aigh found it
ancient depot
wrote a program to generate a .wad from a folder of PNGs
honest stag
DEEPER
fluid nimbus
but yeah if I wanna make maps on trenchbroom without using wads what map format should I use
ancient depot
q3bsp
just testing a compiled .bsp using the generated .wad now, if it works I'll release the wad and later the tool
I'll probably put the tool code on our github
still raptor
Just don't use any of the other more advanced features like shaders, q3 entities, or bezier patches
gritty forge
bezer botches
still raptor
You can use the generic config as well
fluid nimbus
if I don't use any of the bezier curves or whatever it should be fine right
still raptor
But you'll want to edit the FGD
viscid sinew
That's a thicc wad you got there
honest stag
holy SHIT my map has textures now thank you
little bay
are we able to change the dusk logo in the menu yet?
gritty forge
y'all haven't made a trenchbroom game config yet? smh
viscid sinew
I eagerly await
fluid nimbus
if anyone has a decent one I'll take it
still raptor
viscid sinew
😮
gritty forge
Dosk
fluid nimbus
giv
still raptor
It's a lot of tedious work lol
fluid nimbus
oof
viscid sinew
I'd imagine
small gate
daikatana: game not found
still raptor
You're free to do it yourselves
small gate
I am disappointed
viscid sinew
ty for doing so, very convenient
boy there's a small scene for Daikatana
it's interesting
little bay
still raptor
Anyways, generic, quake, a custom dusk one, and q3 should all work
viscid sinew
ain't a whole lot but from what I've heard there is some good maps in it
still raptor
And obviously you can use jack, or worldcraft, or hammer
Or radiant
Anything that will spit out a valve or id bsp basically
That's not source
viscid sinew
now I'm wondering how old of a editor could you use to make a DUSK map
gritty forge
Source be like: you want sum displacements?
viscid sinew
fluid nimbus
how do I put light in a quake 1 map
none of the supported light entities are in the entity browser except for weapon_lightning, whatever that is
oh it's a gun
still raptor
You need to run it through light.exe
fluid nimbus
I have some but they're not in the list of supported entities
fluid nimbus
ah
still raptor
You still need then to bake lighting
fluid nimbus
where's light.exe at
small gate
bake it good 😎
gritty forge
qbsp.exe mycoolmap.map
light.exe mycoolmap.bsp
ah
gritty forge
Yeet
viscid sinew
🔥 Light them maps bois 🔥
small gate
bake em dank maps
wooden pier
I am reading all these comments before I've been to the game files and like my face
fluid nimbus
you can't load big arcane dimension maps yet right
unborn karma
I got some map ports in mind
honest stag
you know, my map is going to be completely redone anyway so why the hell not - here's a crusty map without a keydoor which wont work for all of you who just want to play anything custom
(you need a quake 1 palette btw i'll drop it here if you need one)
honest stag
uhhhhhhhhhh
just know that it sucks ass and i fucked up some textures because i want to do them properly later on
but you know sure 1 moment
fluid nimbus
I'm putting my map through light.exe with a light source of 500 right above the ground but no light still
also what happened in this menu lmao
font took a hit https://i.imgur.com/lu3qgOW.png
ancient depot
user map using dusk.wad
honest stag
oh wait you cant rename bsp files? they wont work if you do right
shit
i'll rename it back and post some screenshots along with it
fluid nimbus
ah i fucked up the command for light.exe
ancient depot
or type NBREFRESH while in a level
honest stag
oh i forgot to enable it, forget it
gritty forge
NBREFRESHO
fiery badge
Where do I shove that quake pallet
gritty forge
ngl he be looking NBREFRESH though
fluid nimbus
what command are you using for light.exe cause this isn't working https://i.imgur.com/yCbwbxZ.png
gritty forge
remove light in parameters
fiery badge
But where do I pit the quake pallete
fiery badge
Put
gritty forge
SDK/mnt/local maybe
fiery badge
thanks
still raptor
One step at a time
fluid nimbus
good lightmap https://i.imgur.com/SZQcmOk.png
note the shitty textures cause quake palette
gritty forge
Yeah I think 500 on the light is probably too much
fluid nimbus
lol
gritty forge
I think they use to put a bunch of small lights around
fluid nimbus
is there a way to set ambient light or something
just have a level of light everywhere by default
still raptor
Yes
fluid nimbus
👀
gritty forge
worldspawn and then _light I think
worldspawn you can just click on the ground to select
unborn karma
Can you port other unity game maps into this
honest stag
here are the screenshots, man i am so eager to actually make it look nice with proper textures and a bit more polish
still raptor
Also keep in mind lightmaps are not perfect right now
honest stag
still raptor
There's some small issues we are still chasing down
fluid nimbus
do I have to set it per brush then
gritty forge
nah
worldspawn is just the whole map kinda
its were you set the map name and stuff to
still raptor
Ye
unborn karma
So what map formats are supported currently besides bsp?
fluid nimbus
I wanna make a quake 3 format map to not have to use quake's palette but trenchbroom wont let me import textures for some reasons
small gate
it's all bsp
unborn karma
Oh alright
gritty forge
When I get home from work
still raptor
New blood Sweden is slacking
balmy thorn
Wait, is the SDK out_
fluid nimbus
has anyone tried replacing the sickle sound with HL1 crowbar sounds
that'd be perfect with the scientist super shotgun
SDK is out
check pinned
beta though
balmy thorn
😱
fiery badge
@honest stagass spaceship was pretty fun but enemies on the top floor fell through into space and I couldnt shoot them but they could shoot me in specific areas
honest stag
i replaced only 2 sounds
click in the menu is a dog bark and "HUP" is now the amid evil fall sound
what really? that didnt happen for me
gritty forge
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
honest stag
but thanks for trying it out
gritty forge
- amid evil dude
fiery badge
Thank you for making it
fluid nimbus
do I need to actually own quake 3 to make maps without being restricted to color palettes or what
still raptor
No
fluid nimbus
trenchbroom wont let me import textures tho
wooden pier
how about changing the sickles for 2hnded crowbars
unborn karma
Just realized that i can actually port any map from Pokemon from it's DS generation to the 3DS
fluid nimbus
huuh
fluid nimbus
you can convert them to bsp?
unborn karma
Pallet town
fluid nimbus
screenshot mate
unborn karma
You can extract the maps to a giant fuckoff .obj
fluid nimbus
ah
fluid nimbus
👀
still raptor
In theory
fluid nimbus
but yeah trenchbroom is cockblocking me right now https://i.imgur.com/qWHlQy9.png
and google isn't helping
honest stag
yeah i know that feeling
eventually quakespasm's wad worked i think
gritty forge
think you have to set a game path?
fluid nimbus
but I don't have quake 3 😦
fluid nimbus
I said earlier I wanna use quake 3 format to not be restricted to a palette
cause my mario world inspired ground textures look like piss rn with the palette
high magnet
What's like the most trusted/used compiler for Quake 1 maps
wooden pier
mario, thats cool
gritty forge
ericw prolly
high magnet
Danke
gritty forge
little bay
https://i.imgur.com/Jj8z9S2.png progress so far
fluid nimbus
I checked the trenchbroom dev's twitter and this is the first retweet of him I see https://twitter.com/DanielWienerson/status/1207884232669839360
gritty forge
that looks like a map
fiery badge
@little bayis that one of the old endless maps or is it new
fluid nimbus
@little bay which map format is that
little bay
its just the farms
high magnet
Is it important for DUSK maps to be vised?
little bay
i changed the texture
gritty forge
also y'all should check out the bounce lighting
fluid nimbus
ah
gritty forge
fiery badge
Does it work
viscid sinew
DUSK of Fear
versed wind
yeah
honest stag
i may be a dumbass so i use the q1sp gui
viscid sinew
or Cry of DUSK?
versed wind
cause they're HL1 BSP
fiery badge
Yeah but I meant do they function well and have textures
high magnet
How do you add a command line to the compiler
versed wind
theyre a little crusty and they look like doom 2 wads from 1998 but they work
yeah they have textures
fluid nimbus
honest stag
i feel like i've seen these textures somewhere
fluid nimbus
inspired from mario world
honest stag
ah i see
viscid sinew
Nice!
fluid nimbus
but yeah
fiery badge
Cry of fear is the closest we have to having city textures for dusk
fluid nimbus
how tf do I get the actual textures in game
wooden pier
Did you make the textures yourself?
wooden pier
What are you using?
fluid nimbus
aseprite
viscid sinew
Here's my contribution to the memes
fluid nimbus
aseprite is free if you compile it yourself btw
wooden pier
Thanks, I'll have to get back to him.
viscid sinew
Also made a airhorn SGG which is absolutely awful
versed wind
what the hell
fluid nimbus
cause trenchbroom wont let me import textures for quake 3
little bay
@viscid sinew that may be my favourite super shotgun sound yet
versed wind
the teleporters on hl_blood_gulch still work
wooden pier
Wait, is it free?
versed wind
how
wooden pier
Good idea, I'll just find my wallet.
honest stag
i should have bought it on the steam sale
viscid sinew
Glad you like it Spector
unborn karma
O yeah someone ported the entirety of fallout 4's map into the source engine
viscid sinew
it's a tad out of sync
fluid nimbus
prolly load real fast you should try it
sharp trail
There is no update in dusk help
fiery badge
I hope saving gets added soon
versed wind
still raptor
You need to switch to the beta branch
versed wind
wait how do i find pre-existing sounds to replace
david's guide is confusing me a lil
fast ridge
opt into the beta
versed wind
i am
small gate
chat needs a bot w/ some macros/commands to repeat this sorta info really
still raptor
We'll get churbot to do it
fast ridge
Now
still raptor
It's day 1 soft beta, we still have a lot of shit to prepare
fast ridge
I can finally make the scientists ask for the status report
versed wind
the thing i dont understand is we have to make a folder for sounds in mnt/local right
but there
arent any sounds to replace
so i dont know the names of the stock sounds i wanna replace
fast ridge
Dusk\SDK\mnt\local\dusk\sounds
still raptor
Check the dusk folder
lusty aurora
Were we all waiting for SDK just to see a piss mod lmao
little bay
i just duplicate the dusk one and change the duplicate files
fast ridge
JC Denton in Dusk, including his bad aim
honest stag
cant wait for workshop too
fast ridge
"my vision is augmented"
unborn karma
gonna replace all textures with this face
fiery badge
With workshop I think we are gonna get a flood of mods
fast ridge
So do we need to make a new folder for sound mods or replace existing ones?
honest stag
oh man oh man i want to make a small episode
fiery badge
Any mods yet that gives the soldiers HECU lines
honest stag
with like a shitty cheesy storyline
fiery badge
Link it please, I NEEDDDDDDD IT
honest stag
if the alert sound isnt "MY ASS IS HEAVY" i'm not using it
wooden pier
by the way, where do they (valve) keep the workshop mods, some kind of cloud?
unborn karma
pool
fiery badge
A ubs stick in gabe's basement
still raptor
Make a new folder so you can enable and disable your mods
wooden pier
I hope we don't tear down the servers as soon as the workshop opens.
fast ridge
much obliged
honest stag
yo, is it possible to have a channel only for messages with mods? untill workshop comes out so people try them out
and maps too
fiery badge
Like finished mods I'm guessing
honest stag
yea sorta
half dust
@still raptor Should I be using that old WAD or something else?
honest stag
because they just get lost here
high magnet
So I'm trying to use Necro's compiling GUI, any help?
small gate
s p a c e s
versed wind
anyone know which sound the SSG uses for firing?
fiery badge
Oh I also do have some criticism for ass spaceship
still raptor
@half dust I'd suggest the new one, but the old should work
small gate
@high magnet check the message outputs, you've got spaces on that path and it's prob. throwing the program off
honest stag
ass spaceship lives up to it's name
it's ass
half dust
@still raptor Where do I get the new one?
honest stag
sooo any chance on a new channel for mods/maps only?
fiery badge
Its weird that you get the riviter right off the bat but the mortar is a secret weapon, considering how the mortar pales in comparison to the riveter
small gate
big john with classic VOX lines like "MY ASS IS HEAVY" pls
versed wind
anyone know if i'm doing this right?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525521014084468736/662624096907165697/unknown.png
renamed a file
raven kiln
Can you add monster and stuff on the maps?
high magnet
@small gate You mean in here? There ain't no spaces here
versed wind
with trenchbroom probably
small gate
program files
honest stag
yeah i did
so far the only way i know is to add quake 1 monsters - they are replaced when you launch the map in dusk WHICH IS SO FUCKING COOL
raven kiln
Trenchbroom?
fiery badge
I would also say put more goodies on the first floor to give players another reason to fight up their way up there, but only if you plan to have another map after this, you did say you wanted to make a small episode
versed wind
map editor
high magnet
Oh bollocks
small gate
yeeeeeeeeep
still raptor
One min @half dust
still raptor
Zombie is finishing it
raven kiln
So I need to download quake 1 map maker stuff
still raptor
Right this minute
half dust
Okay
raven kiln
I hoped I can do it in hammer
small gate
oh its not full path, it's relative
fiery badge
Well
small gate
you'll need to install that stuff on a path w/o spaces
fiery badge
Cant hammer work since it also does .bsp
errant ginkgo
I think it works with J.A.C.K
versed wind
aaagh why are there so many fire.flac files i dont know which one i need to replace
errant ginkgo
Which is super similar to hammer
versed wind
all of them?
errant ginkgo
You'd be comfortable with it
raven kiln
@fiery badge it can, but I want to place some monsters on my map
So I suppose trenchbroom is supperior
drowsy pier
New plan guys, since I fucked up half my work, Im redoing all the textures
half dust
How do we place entities?
little bay
just fire.flac should be fine, except the assault rifle since it has different variations@versed wind
versed wind
okay so am i doing this right?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525521014084468736/662624096907165697/unknown.png
little bay
make sure to keep it fire.flac
versed wind
i'll rename it fire.flac
then try applying
doom doesnt seem to show up in the directory
dont know if its supposed to
still raptor
@half dust check the pinned readme
Or you can use quake ents
And the game will convert them to dusk
honest stag
yeah
also here are the monsters in quake = monsters in dusk
knight = the fire sword flying lady
grunt = soldier
wizard = the flying blue thing that says "TUMADA"
fiend = wendigo
hell knight = horror (the big mouth fucker)
zombies = leathernecks
didnt try out more yet
versed wind
nah still isn't replaced for me
half dust
But how do we place things like the regular shotguns that are not in Quake.
honest stag
use the weapons
super nailgun = rifle
ssg=ssg
rocket launcher=riveter and so on
fiery badge
We are also technically creating quake maps as well
honest stag
oh wait you cant place a normal shotgun right
fiery badge
How do you also get pistols
high magnet
What's up with custom maps staying in the load screen with escape in the middle of the screen
honest stag
yeah no clue, i guess i will be a thing later on
versed wind
that means it doesnt work
still raptor
You can use the entities listed in the readme
honest stag
how tho? just plant an entity and give it that name?
fluid nimbus
can't make custom endless maps yet right
honest stag
and it will load in dusk?
fiery badge
@PaperMartin#8635yeah
fluid nimbus
kk
and has anyone figured out yet how to make maps without being restricted to color palettes
and without owning quake 3
fiery badge
As much as I love ass spaceship I cant wait till we get a first dusk level that also doesn't work with quake or use its textures
fluid nimbus
I'd like to be able to make one lol
small gate
nah man this is all a ploy zombie hatched to revive quake1 dm by making us believe we're mapping for dusk
when its actually all just quake maps
gritty forge
what version of windows do i need for dusk sdk
small gate
wake up sheeple
gritty forge
what windows version do i need for dusk sdk
fluid nimbus
any version that runs dusk I imagine
verbal peak
any 64bit windows
gritty forge
win7 pro?
fluid nimbus
also you don't have to post it twice within a minute
verbal peak
ideally 10 since its the most up to date
gritty forge
@fluid nimbus but nobody saw it
fluid nimbus
"nobody"
long anchor
w7 4ever
gritty forge
yes
fluid nimbus
posting it again won't change it
small gate
w7 is quickly approaching EOL, it's time to jump ship yall
fluid nimbus
also just because nobody answered doesn't mean nobody saw it
maybe nobody had an answer to give you
small gate
you're late for the win10 spyware party
gritty forge
@fluid nimbus did you finish ranting
fluid nimbus
???
honest stag
feels like we are all cramped into 1 channel with multiple topics even tho it could be several like troubleshooting/finished mods and other things
fluid nimbus
it's not that cramped
verbal peak
go circlejerk to you favorite OS in #bnnuy-and-the-jits. this is just dusk modding
versed wind
so i restarted the game, loaded the doom folder in mods, named them both fire.flac and draw.flac
still nothing
fluid nimbus
make the sandpaper treadmill room
@versed wind go to the sdk folder in the dusk folder and run dusk_win.bat
long anchor
back to modding
fluid nimbus
to run the modded version of the game
long anchor
what preset is better to use
fluid nimbus
yes
long anchor
general or quake 1?
versed wind
nope, still the same
high magnet
Why does the map getting stuck on loading screen with "escape" happen
versed wind
because they dont work
still raptor
It means there's an error @high magnet
high magnet
Damn
still raptor
Unsupported format or otherwise
gritty forge
because you can't escape
still raptor
If you put up and output log we can see
versed wind
also yeah even the win.bat modded version isnt working
fluid nimbus
is there a way to make maps in trenchbroom with individual textures rather than wad, without owning Q3
high magnet
fluid nimbus
@versed wind did you wait for it to load
the command window thing is empty till the game loads
or is the game loading but the mods are missing in game
versed wind
i got it
honest stag
pretty sure you can find the q3 texture packs
versed wind
it's working
fluid nimbus
ah
versed wind
but it's a lil awkward
fluid nimbus
@honest stag trenchbroom wont let me import custom textures in Q3 mode tho
ancient depot
gritty forge
thanks zombie very cool
fluid nimbus
I just don't want the palette restriction lol
torpid agate
I just turned off my computer and now I gotta turn it back on. Lol ty zombie
ancient depot
later on we'll reorganize some of the texture folders so that the game can load the actual PNGs on top of the textures in the BSP
fluid nimbus
yes please
versed wind
fluid nimbus
@versed wind which map is that
ancient depot
that program will let you make your own wad from a folder full of textures
versed wind
hl_minecraft.bsp
fluid nimbus
oh it's the one from the stream