dusk-modding

[hard pollen]

Lain Horrors

[ancient depot]

If there's no SDK folder, you don't have the SDK (since the actual .exe for it and stuff is in there).
It's a weird Steam problem, @still raptor is trying to fix it right now

[agile fjord]

ah I see, glad it's not just me

[tight fractal]

3 people now affected by this it seems

[forest sedge]

Once mods and maps are made, will they be linked here, or will there be a better place to link them?

[gritty forge]

god that's actually horrifying

[hard pollen]

I scared Dave with one of my mods.

[tight fractal]

We’ll have steam workshop

[iron needle]

@hard pollen no Doug Walker horror?

[hard pollen]

I'll make Doug Walker Horror now.

Don't worry.

[iron needle]

@tight fractal Steam workshop isn't for a bit

[tight fractal]

I know

[iron needle]

kk just making sure

[tight fractal]

But I was just letting @forest sedge know

[iron needle]

we're talking about setting up something in the meantime

[compact drift]

I've fresh installed the game twice. It says version 1.5 and the SDK folder is there, but I can't find the option to enable mods ):

[forest sedge]

Just wouldn't want to miss one.

[tight fractal]

Good ol MODDB

[gritty forge]

So for now it's all manual installs like the good ol' days

[iron needle]

@compact drift are you starting actual Dusk SDK?

try running it from the bat file in the SDK folder

@gritty forge for now yeah

Workshop support will be coming once we make it a bit more fully featured

[still raptor]

Hey @craggy hearth

Try now

[proven hull]

so is this december 25th of 2019 or 2020

[still raptor]

In fact

[ancient depot]

And anyone else who isn't getting the SDK folder

[cobalt sinew]

What does "half-life level transitions are not yet supported mean?" because I have a friend saying that he can transition through levels just fine

[lapis hare]

i think they meant half life style level transitions

[ancient depot]

You can transition through the levels but you won't appear in the right spot

[coral spear]

I think it means like-- yeah that

[still raptor]

ANYONE IN THE CHANNEL WHO HAD A MISSING EXE, RESTART STEAM AND VERIFY

[ancient depot]

And objects won't carry over

[lapis hare]

yeah see look at that, i'm a genius

[compact drift]

Thank you @iron needle, that was the problem... I feel so fucking dumb right now

[fiery badge]

Hi yall

Good thing the sk released before ww3

But anyways where may I find the password and half life maps?

[agile fjord]

the sk IS world war three

[small gate]

(NOT CURRENT SDK RELATED) thanks I hate it

[tight fractal]

Check pubs

Fuck

*pins

[agile fjord]

pubs

[coral spear]

pubs

[proven hull]

pubs

[meager stirrup]

pubs

[tight fractal]

🍻

[vital marsh]

Crack DUSK when?

[viscid sinew]

It's in the making in General 1 Voice.

[harsh swift]

Are we getting any official mods

As in released by David and such

[iron needle]

No idea lol

[gritty forge]

Wouldn't an official mod just be free DLC basicly

[iron needle]

Maybe at some point

[harsh swift]

What about those half life maps

Or is that just something you can do easily anyway

[proven hull]

we're getting an official sdk, that's pretty swell

[coral spear]

DUSK: Opposing Force where you play as Jacob when

[harsh swift]

Dusk opposing force but you're a rat

[iron needle]

@harsh swift you can literally just load them up

[coral spear]

^

[tight fractal]

Dusk: Red Shift

[fiery badge]

Cant wait for quake 2 maps to be added so I can actually have fun with quake 2

[cosmic zenith]

Sdk is out?

[harsh swift]

Oh cool

[forest sedge]

I think pinning this link to the moddb page would be a good idea: https://www.moddb.com/games/dusk-fps-retro/mods

[harsh swift]

I didn't realise it was that easy

[gritty forge]

From what's described, you can pretty much load up anything that's been made with a Quake/Half Life editor

[harsh swift]

Also yeah pin that and make it the message at the top of the channel

[gritty forge]

Or just, Quake/Half Life in general

[tight fractal]

https://www.moddb.com/games/dusk-fps-retro/mods

[harsh swift]

You know

I'm really surprised nobody has demade dusk in quake

[iron needle]

Yeah I'll pin it

[tight fractal]

Ah it didn’t embed

Cool discord

[fiery badge]

Does that mean we can also load up mods for thos games? Dusk Echoes?

[forest sedge]

Thanks

[harsh swift]

Cry of dusk

[small gate]

with how the sdk is structured, it should be much easier to demake dusk in quake now

[iron needle]

@fiery badge if they're maps, then yes. They probably won't function completely

[fiery badge]

Fuck yeah cry of dusk would be awesome

[harsh swift]

How do doors and such work then from imported maps

And loading between levels

[iron needle]

@harsh swift they use func_door

[fiery badge]

I'm guessing the enemies would have to be added manually and they arent just automatically replacing enemies

[harsh swift]

So they're recognised immediately

Cool

[iron needle]

They're automatically replaced

[fiery badge]

Oh fuck I'm erect

Thank you david

[thorn hedge]

my menu is fucked

[iron needle]

You can load into any Quake or HL map and play it

[tight fractal]

Big pp

[iron needle]

There are some big issues atm but for the most part they work

[thorn hedge]

i cant choose anything bc my mouse auto recenters

[gritty forge]

Man it's amazinzg that you can quite literally just play through Quake now (kinda)

Kinda janky Quake but still Quake but with a flavour of Dusk

[harsh swift]

Can't wait to try that tomorrow if we're not all dead

[iron needle]

HL maps have some texture issues because we don't load external wads yet

[thorn hedge]

and it automatically scrolls through all options

[solid isle]

Where do you get this "palette.lmp"?

[harsh swift]

Have you tried playing through anything fully

[iron needle]

Eventually you should in theory be able to seamlessly play the maps in Dusk however without issues

[fiery badge]

I'm gonna play it now despite me having school tomorrow and it being 12 37

[still raptor]

Unplug your controller

Or disable controller input

[thorn hedge]

disable controller input on dusk?

[half vessel]

I'VE MADE A MONSTER

[thorn hedge]

bc i dont have any controllers plugged in

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480394371863412748/662529618611273776/unknown.png

THE SDK

WAS A MISTAKE

[harsh swift]

Holy shit

[iron needle]

@harsh swift we ran through Quake Ep1. Noclip is needed at a few spots and keys and buttons and stuff don't work

[solid isle]

yikes

[harsh swift]

Wendavego

[sullen plinth]

Ok so hear me out I had a amazing idea: Mod the enemies into Garfield characters. For example Rats into mice, Cart dog into Odie, black phillips into Nermal. Just think how amazing Big Jon Arbuckle would be!

[harsh swift]

Oh okay

[iron needle]

@half vessel oh lord that's horrifying lol

[harsh swift]

Well it is beta/alpha/whatever

[agile fjord]

I reinstalled and no SDK still?

[fiery badge]

The fin boss would be gore field

[oblique laurel]

What the hell

[fiery badge]

It's a code you have to input

[gusty zodiac]

wheres the modding menu?

[harsh swift]

Someone make a shorter load times mod already

[fiery badge]

In the beta branch thing

[alpine depot]

garfield enemy conversion mod, reminds me of the garfield texture swap for the gonarch someone did in hl

[gritty forge]

Honestly my sole idea for a map is a maze filled to the brim with Wendigos

[fiery badge]

Check pinned

[harsh swift]

Wait no scripting

[sullen plinth]

"Its just me John"

[agile fjord]

oh fuck, I never checked the beta branch

[half vessel]

anyone ever play gman invasion

[fiery badge]

@alpine depotneed pics for that

[iron needle]

@harsh swift yeah we plan on supporting all that stuff eventually. You should in theory be able to play through all of Quake in Dusk, with Dusk weapons and enemies

[half vessel]

i feel like we need gman invasion but with big john

[harsh swift]

Can't wait for that

[fiery badge]

@agile fjordpinned has the code

[half vessel]

jusk

[hard pollen]

Hey um the update broke the SDK for me.

[iron needle]

@half vessel well, in HL maps gman is automatically replaced with Big John soooo...

[harsh swift]

Lmao

[gritty forge]

oh my fucking god

[iron needle]

@hard pollen what happened?

[harsh swift]

How will half life's ending work then

[hard pollen]

Can only launch standard DUSK now, can't launch DUSK world or anything else.

[harsh swift]

Big John just kills you

[hard pollen]

Wait relaunching fixed it.

Oops.

[alpine depot]

so who wants to band together and make a big john dating simulator with me?

[fiery badge]

So anyone have plans for any serious mods?

[alpine depot]

dusk 2

no wait, dusk episode one

and then dusk episode two

[proven hull]

just start at 3

[harsh swift]

Call me disgusting but I want a HD graphics mod when we can make it

[gritty forge]

Dusk but you play as BIg John and fight nothing but Big Johns

[harsh swift]

Since its unity

Could you replace models with really high quality models

[proven bramble]

how does a homie enable the mod in the modding menu yo

[proven hull]

I don't have much creative moxie or literally any experience, but I'm hoping to take a crack at some sfx or wall textures or something

[half vessel]

OH

[fiery badge]

Guessing where gonna get mods with a soldier as a protag, and maybe a prequel with jakob

[half vessel]

I AM GOING TO CHANGE THE HUP SOUND

TO BIG JOHN

[harsh swift]

Dusk with doom textures

Someone change the hup sound to trent reznor HUH

[scarlet fjord]

Midi suppooorrt

[drowsy pier]

Ive already converted half the textures into a "cell shade" feel to em

[proven hull]

or the EEUUIIIGH?

[drowsy pier]

Cell shaded dusk

[harsh swift]

AAGH

[fiery badge]

Oh fuck ita civvie

[proven bramble]

i don't see a "modding menu"

[half vessel]

where are the big john voice files

[gritty forge]

@drowsy pier you better share that once it's done becuase i'm a sucker fro taht kind of style

[harsh swift]

I expect to wake up and have every enemy's voice be replaced with big John

[fiery badge]

Borderdusk

[haughty crystal]

WE OUT HERE BOYS

[drowsy pier]

@gritty forge Im half way done with most of the textures

[harsh swift]

Already

[fiery badge]

Modders are fast

[half vessel]

found them

[drowsy pier]

Ima beast at photoshop

and blender

[fiery badge]

Anyone wanna share their work so far

[scarlet fjord]

I'm still a novice at blender

Still learning how to rig

[drowsy pier]

I have lots of models I made for the sdk but im trying to figure out how to "jurry rig" them in

[gritty forge]

Give it two days and we will have Brutal Dusk or smth

[mild swift]

hdusk

[ancient depot]

@drowsy pier models aren't supported yet

[proven hull]

well, maybe not brutal dusk right away, would need a lot more scripting i'm sure

[ancient depot]

we'll be adding them in a patch

they unfortunately didnt make it into the first release

[gritty forge]

Ye I was mostly joking

[drowsy pier]

@ancient depot I think I found a way to "replace" weapons

[scarlet fjord]

That's fine!

[drowsy pier]

@ancient depot Not add any new ones, just replace existing ones

[ancient depot]

oh?

that's new to me

and I wrote the code

lol

[scarlet fjord]

Seeing the SDK out as it is has given me incintive to start working on models in the future

[half vessel]

okay so

i may have replaced

the hup

with big john going

HAUUGH

this was a mistake

[ancient depot]

oh yeah, little bonus for modders

[drowsy pier]

@ancient depot Thats why I asked about the asset files with unity

[ancient depot]

there's a secret "cheat"

[gritty forge]

Does it cut off or does it overlap itself? @half vessel

[half vessel]

it cuts off

[gritty forge]

oh god

[fiery badge]

Is it noclip

[ancient depot]

If you type NBREFRESH, the game will re-load all of the mod files

So you don't need to restart after replacing files in your mod

[gritty forge]

HAUHAUHAUHAUHAUHAUHAUHAUHAUAHAHUAHUA

[proven hull]

pin that yo

[half vessel]

wait i'll record it

[ancient depot]

@fiery badge noclip is NBCLIP

[compact drift]

yes I just loaded some quake 1 maps, the enemy placement is nice!
but mine didn't have any textures. Is there a way to make it use DUSK's textures?

[ancient depot]

If there are no textures then you're missing palette.lmp

Which is the Quake colour palette

Someone posted a link to it earlier, we can't include it with the SDK because it's Bethesda property

[compact drift]

where should I put this file?

[ancient depot]

Inside the root folder of your mod

Just outside the maps folder

[compact drift]

alright, thanks!

[half vessel]

@gritty forge https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662532412105949209/wewea.mp3

[elfin ore]

so i can't have the default Dusk file in local or else it conflicts with my mod. is that how it's supposed to be?

[half vessel]

default dusk file is a guide i think

[gritty forge]

PKADFJLASDLFADSFLKM

[elfin ore]

Ohhh, understandable

[gritty forge]

That sounds as great as I expected, holy shit

[small gate]

triangles status: absolutely loaded

[ancient depot]

no the default dusk folder is important

[hard pollen]

Doug Walker DUSK

[ancient depot]

without it nothing will load properly

@elfin ore what is the name of your mod folder?

[fiery badge]

Jesus christ yall are fast

[half vessel]

holy shit

[elfin ore]

frasier

[scarlet fjord]

That is

terrifying

[ancient depot]

Try going into the modding menu, is it below or above dusk

make sure it's above

click the arrows to move it

then go apply

[elfin ore]

it is

did that

[half vessel]

dougsk

[small gate]

it's surprisingly easy to create custom meshes in runtime ngl

[ancient depot]

hm

[elfin ore]

still conflicted

[ancient depot]

What's conflicting?

[elfin ore]

removed it and it's fine now

[fiery badge]

But enough about replacements, anyone started any maps

[elfin ore]

it just plays the default sound

[ancient depot]

Some sounds don't get replaced yet

Like enemy alert sounds

[elfin ore]

Scythe sounds too?

[cobalt sinew]

@hard pollen thanks that picture killed one of my friends due to losing his sides

[ancient depot]

sickle sounds should work

[elfin ore]

Nope

[ancient depot]

weird

so does your custom sound have the exact same file name and location as the original sound, but just inside your mod folder instead?

[elfin ore]

yes

[ancient depot]

hm

can you DM me the mod?

I'll take a look at it

[elfin ore]

ite one sec

[half vessel]

wait so

i know skies aren't in yet but can we edit the current ones

[gusty zodiac]

how can i load cs 1.6 textures?

[ancient depot]

I don't believe so

@gusty zodiac They need texture wads, which we don't support yet sadly

Soon!

[gusty zodiac]

[hard pollen]

Thank you Zombie.

Now pour yourself a glass of water and go to bed pls thanks.

I know it's like 3 PM but still, go to bed.

[proven hull]

Aight, I must sleep, thank you DUSK team for your hard work and for giving us all something to make terrifying reskins with

[small gate]

I recall zombie saying "yeah I need to sleep now" and proceeding to post screenshots/gifs for hours

[cobalt sinew]

if I'm modifying sounds, does the sound folder need the exact same set of folders like in the base dusk sound folder, or just drop the sound file with the same name into the sound folder of my mod?

[elfin ore]

nvm, its working now just tried restarting two more times and it decided to start working lmao

[ancient depot]

yeah I stayed up all night lmao

I did sleep though

[elfin ore]

thanks for the work btw man

congrats on the launch

[torpid agate]

This is so freaking cool

The wendigos in Quake already scared me

[iron needle]

@cobalt sinew I believe it has to be the same structure

[cobalt sinew]

yeah I think so because some sounds have the same filenames

for different enemies

@hard pollen I require that doug walker horror now

[hard pollen]

Here's the texture, go nuts.

[cobalt sinew]

you won't be disappointed

[half vessel]

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/1212972609681276929?s=20

Hawaii Five-Osh (@DaveOshry)

Alright I take it back the SDK was a mistake.

Twitter

oh no

[hardy snow]

@iron needle thank you

[alpine depot]

big john to Garfield when

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662534754096381978/unknown.png

[misty barn]

How can I post imafes

[alpine depot]

Big Garf

[half vessel]

i feel like the welder doesn't work as well

[icy isle]

dusk mods

nice

[half vessel]

as the wendavego

[misty barn]

Just gotta make the mask itself Jahn

[grizzled timber]

OK so am I stupid or how do I actually launch this SDK

[half vessel]

yeah but keep the eyehole

[proven bramble]

i enabled aerowalk in the modding menu but nothing shows up when i open the custom level menu

[grizzled timber]

nvm I'm silly

[misty barn]

Someone give me a map to test out enemies

[ancient depot]

@proven bramble Is the map file inside a "maps" folder?

[proven bramble]

yes

aerowalk.bsp

[ancient depot]

did you click apply after enabling it?

[proven bramble]

yes

more than once

[ancient depot]

hm

[proven bramble]

restarted dusk multiple times

but

[cobalt atlas]

you guys launched?

[proven bramble]

Maps is capitalized

[cobalt atlas]

fuck I missed it

[ancient depot]

Can you send me the mod folder you're using?

[proven bramble]

yee

sec

[cobalt atlas]

good job darth

fucking what months of work

[ancient depot]

My torment has receded

[cobalt atlas]

we appreciate it

[ancient depot]

No more "SDK WHEN" posts

[cobalt atlas]

sdk when

[cosmic zenith]

how the heck do we even enable the sdk? i've restarted steam and tried looking through betas section of steam and don't see anything

[ancient depot]

[scarlet fjord]

Oh no, no no no

[cobalt atlas]

properties I assume

[ancient depot]

@cosmic zenith Have you entered the beta code?

[scarlet fjord]

instead of SDK when

it's gonna be SDK update when

[cobalt atlas]

ohohoho

[cosmic zenith]

that's probs why, where is the code?

[fierce lava]

but how is SDK? Is he okay?

[cobalt atlas]

darth this is your personal terry wad

[ancient depot]

@cosmic zenith oohatinybarn

[scarlet fjord]

Seriously tho great job Zombie this is the best late christmas gift ever

[still raptor]

oohatinybarn

[ancient depot]

Fun fact we wanted to have the SDK out for the last summer sale originally

[cosmic zenith]

thanks

[ancient depot]

L

O

L

[grizzled timber]

Wait launching SDK just launches the game?

[fierce lava]

What does the beta code mean btw?

[scarlet fjord]

I don't mind! Better late with confidence than rushed

[grizzled timber]

I feel like I missed something

[ancient depot]

It's an inside joke

[hard pollen]

Hey Scott get in here.

[ancient depot]

@grizzled timber Did you launch it from the "Downloads" section on Steam instead of your library?

[cosmic zenith]

kinda sad model replacement didn't make this build tho

[ancient depot]

Also the SDK is the game, but with mod support

[cosmic zenith]

no duel ks23s yet

[grizzled timber]

I see I see

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662536367905177600/unknown.png

MISTAKE

[grizzled timber]

Also I didn't launch it from the downloads section

[half vessel]

MISTAKE

[still raptor]

Not at home atm

[half vessel]

here's question

can i change the blood

to big john

[ancient depot]

you can change the blood splatters but not the blood particles

[misty barn]

DO IT

I DARE YOU

Also

[half vessel]

damn

no particle changes

[misty barn]

Anyone have any Q1 maps?

[grizzled timber]

So the SDK is basically just for loading maps and custom textures in?

[ancient depot]

yeah, it's for modding the game in general

[misty barn]

I got HLM2 Sounds working in game

[grizzled timber]

Ahh OK. But the creation of maps and textures is supposed to be done in different software, right?

Then we just upload them using the SDK

There's no internal mapping tool yet then

[small gate]

sdk when is dead, it's func_vehicle when time boyssssss

[scarlet fjord]

I believe we make the maps like you do for hl/quake then import it to dusk is the process, if I'm correct

[gilded saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240196923644968960/662528978644369408/20200102231030_1.jpg

[cobalt sinew]

@hard pollen https://streamable.com/x6wzo

[gilded saddle]

found this lewd door

[cobalt sinew]

@iron needle

[grizzled timber]

Ahhh OK then. Looks like I'll have to find out how to do that then

Thanks for explaining tho!

[small gate]

@cobalt sinew thats absolutely cursed

[kindred epoch]

wow, what a time to join. that made my night

[iron needle]

@cobalt sinew thanks I hate it

[half vessel]

i can't seem to get crosshairs to change

[ancient depot]

god I have so many maps lol

@half vessel UI textures don't get replaced yet

[cobalt sinew]

no problem

[coral spear]

How if possible to I make TrenchBroom do the thing where it shows the Dusk models

[half vessel]

ah darn

[coral spear]

is that a thing i can even do or am i dumb

[grizzled timber]

Well this is super exciting. Thanks so much!

[coral spear]

i have no idea what i'm doing

[stone nimbus]

hey so to clarify this means sdk is out right

[ancient depot]

@coral spear Can't do that just yet. You'll need to wait for us to put out our TrenchBroom support kit

[coral spear]

Oh OK, gotcha

[ancient depot]

@stone nimbus yes

[still raptor]

It's partially out

[stone nimbus]

lit

[still raptor]

Not the full feature set

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480394371863412748/662538356919369729/unknown.png

my idea

foiled

[ancient depot]

lmao

[half vessel]

by the ui texture swap not working

[faint summit]

I made this

[cobalt sinew]

lol

[ancient depot]

jesus christ

[half vessel]

lmao

[faint summit]

does the face look familiar?

[half vessel]

BOSS GO EASY ON THOSE BEERS

[still raptor]

Hotline Miami?

[faint summit]

yep

Ever since i saw the nostalgia critic horror

I thought to do something similiar

[pearl reef]

GOTTA GET A GRIP

[proven bramble]

so pk3s no worky yet?

or are q3 maps even in pk3s?

[ancient depot]

pkz*

q3 maps are bsps

but they're inside pk3s which are just zips

dusk uses pkz which is the same thing with a different name, but we don't support it in the current release

so you have to extract the quake 3 maps yourself

[proven bramble]

oh

winzip?

[ancient depot]

that works

[proven bramble]

i wonder if 7z works

[ancient depot]

that should work too

[cobalt sinew]

use 7zip

[proven bramble]

i got it :3

[fiery badge]

Scarecrows should not replace houndeyes, too op

[gusty zodiac]

i rather fight a scarecrow than a houndeye

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480394371863412748/662540750256340993/unknown.png

MISTAKE

MISTAKE

[fiery badge]

Houndeyes are pushovers

Scarecrows can screw you up

[random bay]

What the fuck have you done?

[modern hull]

i'm loving those "mistakes"

[random bay]

It's

beautiful

[misty barn]

I got Doom John workinh

[modern hull]

his face works for everything

[cobalt sinew]

YEAH BIG HORROR YEAH

[ancient depot]

Distinct lack of gibs-reskinned-as-big-john-heads in here

[fiery badge]

Ammo pickups dont seem to be a thing in the half life maps or is it just me

[modern hull]

don't forget to try putting his face on the bosses, that surely can't go wrong

[cobalt sinew]

so uhh

[ancient depot]

Yeah we don't have replacements set up for a bunch of Half Life stuff

[cobalt sinew]

who's going to replace every single texture with big john?

[fiery badge]

Havnt played any of the quake levels yet

[misty barn]

How would I port HL Textures into Dusk?

[cobalt sinew]

and every single sound with big john?

[hardy snow]

big john the game confirmed?

[misty barn]

I already got 'We've Got Hostiles' working

[half vessel]

@cobalt sinew

[misty barn]

Just need the textures

[half vessel]

first the monsters

[ancient depot]

Some of the maps need texture wads, which we don't support

[half vessel]

then the rest

[small gate]

make the game substitute rats for big johns

and then play some ratacombs

[fiery badge]

Also we cant save admist a map

[ancient depot]

We'll support texture wads in a future patch

[thorn fog]

I made a sound mod for TF2, using sounds from dusk

[ancient depot]

And yes, saving is not supported yet

[misty barn]

Okay

[ancient depot]

It breaks horribly

[random bay]

No, what we need is the player death sound changed to lego yoda death sound

[thorn fog]

I'm gonna link my TF2 mod in mod general if anyone wants to check it out

[icy isle]

what folder do you put the bsp in?

[misty barn]

maps

/maps/

[ancient depot]

Make sure maps is in lower case

The SDK is sensitive to case

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480394371863412748/662542049651851305/unknown.png

god bless the sdk

[small gate]

zomb, did you just deserialize everything with readbyte painstakingly

[ancient depot]

Mainly so it's consistent with Linux when we port it there

[gritty forge]

Lmao

[half vessel]

i'm so glad you guys put this out this is fucking amazing

[scarlet fjord]

Terrifying

[ancient depot]

ReadByte is only used when the actual value is a byte

[small gate]

fucking csharp I feel like a 12yo coding again

where are my pointers

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480394371863412748/662542224445145093/unknown.png

[ancient depot]

C# has pointers

[half vessel]

god i fucking love the dsk

[small gate]

yeah but managed structs

🤮

[misty barn]

I have made it

[ancient depot]

managed structs are the same as C structs if they contain no reference type fields

[elfin bear]

so would a randomizer mod be possible? or nah?

[ancient depot]

you can get pointers to them and send them to native code

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541580276179009558/662542355164954646/unknown.png

[gilded saddle]

https://forums.svencoop.com/showthread.php/40983-Downloads-amp-Changelogs
HALF LIFE 1 MAP COMPILER

[half vessel]

with enough effort you could probably set up a randomiser

[misty barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531247512397414449/662542448240754689/519860_20200103002018_1.png

[gilded saddle]

use this if you want to use hammer/jack hammer

[small gate]

yeah but you cant define array sizes on them by default

[random bay]

I feel like such a fuck up being in a comp sci class and not knowing what the fuck a pointer or a struct is

[ancient depot]

well yeah, they're pointers

[random bay]

then again, I only know java

[ancient depot]

unless you mean

[misty barn]

I have created Big Doom

[half vessel]

can you kill him

[ancient depot]

public unsafe struct ArrayOf8<T>
    where T : unmanaged
{
    public fixed T Values[8];
}```

[coral spear]

hOW DO I MAKE DIRT--

[honest stag]

WHERRE

[small gate]

ok thats prob what I want, wtf is that syntax tho

[coral spear]

im baby idk what im doin

[small gate]

gonna have to do some googling

[random bay]

reminds me of a case switch

[misty barn]

@half vessel
Yes

You can

[ancient depot]

er actually that example wouldn't work

You can only have a fixed array of primitive types like int, short, etc

But support for arbitrary types is coming in a later C# version

[small gate]

@random bay if that's any comfort, nobody that learns coding during comp sci actually learns that well enough

[ancient depot]

https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/issues/1314

[viscid sinew]

Yo for weapons I only need to replace "fire" correct?

[ancient depot]

yeah

[small gate]

it's all just POD arrays so no biggie

chars actually

[viscid sinew]

gotcha thought it might use different pitches

[random bay]

I always heard my intro to comp sci (which taught web development) teacher always said "google it lol" when it came to actually learning shit

[viscid sinew]

oh I just checked pistol, assault rifle all sounded similar but slightly different hence why I assumed otherwise, cheers

[random bay]

I probably should've figured this is the same scenario

[ancient depot]

Main reason I used BinaryReader instead of just reading in raw structures was endianness

BinaryReader reads data in little endian

But if I just read in raw structures it'd break on Switch, because that system is big endian

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662543607856758785/unknown.png

what a fool you are

[scarlet fjord]

AW YEAH

[small gate]

didnt know the switch was big endian, huh

[elfin ore]

any trickshotters?

[viscid sinew]

holy shit

[misty barn]

Welp, time to do what I've threatened to do before: Make dusk a bit more AAA

[random bay]

Amazing how a couple of mp3 file swaps can make a game x1000 better

[misty barn]

Tomorrow

[kindred epoch]

is there any way to skip straight to the ratacombs? i dont have a save and i want to test my One As Many sound changes :(

[half vessel]

i may have miscalculated

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662544888033837066/unknown.png

[crude cedar]

o

[half vessel]

i put big john's face on the shoe texture

[coral spear]

https://i.imgur.com/xhnyEhi.png

[half vessel]

whoops

[random bay]

i-is that

[coral spear]

this is going very well

[random bay]

that is big john on those fucking shoes

[half vessel]

yes

[random bay]

jesus

[ancient depot]

@kindred epoch the SDK should already include a full save

[ivory otter]

So Custom Maps are a go?

[ancient depot]

yup

[ivory otter]

Oh baby, it's time to lose sleep

[elfin ore]

one more question since the issues have pretty much all stopped. Are vo replacements working rn? or is that one of the things you said that wasn't working atm

[ancient depot]

If the SDK doesn't have all the campaign levels unlocked for you, put this file in SDK/bin/win_x64/config

[half vessel]

i could replace the hup

[ancient depot]

@elfin ore I think some work, some don't, I haven't really tested

[half vessel]

with big john

but i haven't tried vos yet

[elfin ore]

ye, non-believer/sacrifice and all those don't seem to be working atm

[honest stag]

wow 1.6 gigs damn

[ancient depot]

Enemy alert sounds don't replace currently

[long anchor]

wait, what, sdk beta?

yasss

[kindred epoch]

aw dangit. that was half my mod. thanks for the save file.

[ancient depot]

We'll be fixing the alert sounds and stuff soon

Main reason we didn't fix it yet is because fixing it could have broken other stuff

Which would've delayed the release

[viscid sinew]

fair

[kindred epoch]

that's fine. i can wait.

i'm just happy this is happening in general

[ancient depot]

believe me, me too

[coral spear]

https://i.imgur.com/HkOSpqS.png

[viscid sinew]

Doing gods work Zom

[coral spear]

haHA we have

[ancient depot]

excited to play some custom maps

[viscid sinew]

Already working on it 😉

[coral spear]

slöpe

[viscid sinew]

Say the image box in the mod menu, does that work atm?

[ancient depot]

yes

[viscid sinew]

😮

[honest stag]

oh man i made a map in trenchbroom like half a year ago, it sucks ass but i'll try it

[ancient depot]

look at description.xml in the dusk mount

[coral spear]

https://i.imgur.com/mmmp5gV.png

OK, so this is happening

[viscid sinew]

gotcha good stuff

[ancient depot]

@coral spear that happens when loading the level fails

what map is that

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662546424076173345/unknown.png

[coral spear]

One I'm trying to make

[half vessel]

embed goddamnit

there we go

[ancient depot]

what is it compiled as?

[coral spear]

BSP

with uhhh hold on

[pale pendant]

How do I get Quake 3 maps to appear correct?

[ancient depot]

q1, hl or q3

[pale pendant]

Textures are not showing up.

[coral spear]

Q1

w/ericw-tools

[ancient depot]

chuck the map my way and I'll take a look

@pale pendant bit of a hard problem atm

we don't have full support for q3bsp

but you need to extract all of the textures from the pk3 files

into a "textures" folder in a mod

[misty barn]

Perrrrfect

[pale pendant]

Do subfolders mess it up?

[ancient depot]

yes

[pale pendant]

Well there's my problem lol

[ancient depot]

the texture loading for q3bsp is super ghetto rn

[pale pendant]

I figured as much, but really didn't want to drag everything lol

[ancient depot]

easy fix

use the search function of windows

*.png

then just drag them all into a folder

[crude cedar]

Quake 3 uses weird shit

[ancient depot]

note if they're .tga you have to convert them

[half vessel]

sound changes doesn't seemed to have worked

[crude cedar]

Quake 3 uses special textures in a different format because some of them are higher quality

[half vessel]

wait no

the death sound worked

the alert sound didn't change though

[proper notch]

I like how the intro to E3M10 and Blasphemy's starting music are HQ, yet everything else sounds the same lol.

[scarlet fjord]

I'm excited but tired

Imma learn to map just for this

good night happy modding!

[long anchor]

good night

[kindred epoch]

sadly the save isn't working. level select says i only have the iron cathedral

[fierce lava]

I need to find a tutorial to make skyboxes

[kindred epoch]

nvm i'm dumb

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541580276179009558/662549259232477184/unknown.png

someone was going to do it eventually

[viscid sinew]

cancer mice?

[half vessel]

yup

[kindred epoch]

Oh hey, Civvie!

[viscid sinew]

[kindred epoch]

i should have done a cancermouse sound replacement instead

[viscid sinew]

can do that also

alerts don't work just yet

[half vessel]

yeah i noticed that

[icy isle]

FINALLY

[viscid sinew]

oh guess you can't really then, unless you wanna change the sound they make when moving

oh boy

shudders aerowalk...

[coral spear]

helpin' the SDK improve by being a total noob, heeeeell yea

[viscid sinew]

my arch nemesis

[half vessel]

the death sound works

[pale pendant]

God this Q3A stuff is too much work.

I'll just wait for someone else to do it lol

[viscid sinew]

whatcha trying to do?

[pale pendant]

Get the textures to display.

[viscid sinew]

ah

[pale pendant]

Right now only a small amount are showing.

And some maps have parts messing where you can fall off the map.

[hard pollen]

Yeah the Quack 3 support doesn't have Bezier support so um.

[pale pendant]

This is what Blood Run looks like for me

[icy isle]

i got nuke from 1.6

[ancient depot]

@pale pendant for reference

your textures folder should look like that with all the q3a textures

[pale pendant]

With the exception of tga I have everything in there.

[ancient depot]

they need to be png, we don't support tga

so you'll have to use some bulk image converter tool

I think irfanview can do it

[pale pendant]

All the png and jpgs are in there, but I haven't moved tga over yet.

Because I need to convert them.

[ancient depot]

that'd be it then, feel free to ping me if you have any other issues

[pale pendant]

Thanks man! So excited to finally have the SDK out!

[ancient depot]

np

[viscid sinew]

The hype is real, yet I'm making memes haha

I got some D&D stuff on the docket to do atm so I can't commit to a map jjjuusstt yet

[half vessel]

i don't think mapping would work too good yet either

[ancient depot]

we have a fix for custom maps without textures coming to steam soon btw

they wont load properly

[little bay]

do audio files have to be in flacc?

[ancient depot]

big thanks to actuallyasriel for finding that bug

@little bay nah

[honest stag]

my first mod is replacing the main menu click with a dog barking it's so fucking funny to me

[little bay]

oh ok

[ancient depot]

but if the original sound is flac, the replacement needs to have flac in the file name

[little bay]

oh ok thats why mine weren't working

[solid isle]

@elfin ore 's

[kindred epoch]

https://streamable.com/y9y9k

[elfin ore]

what have i done

[chrome wagon]

Finally I can go to the bathroom in Half-life

[hardy snow]

goty

[solid isle]

how are you peeps getting custom textures in?

or rather

game textures

in the case of HL or Quake

[ancient depot]

Yeah func door is still wip so doors that aren't supposed to open like that one wont work properly

[half vessel]

some hl levels have textures in the bsp

i think

[ancient depot]

You can't replace textures in Q1 or HL maps just yet

[misty barn]

The We Got Hostiles maps don't

[half vessel]

yeah

[solid isle]

wdym Zombie

[half vessel]

but the whatever the fuck the first chapter is called does

i forgot the name

[solid isle]

or if I can't do that, how tf does it work?

[ancient depot]

Textures only load if the map has textures embedded in it, and you can't replace them just yet

[solid isle]

oh

[steel scarab]

is the sdk out on steam yet

[ancient depot]

some hl maps have the textures in WADs instead of embedded

[solid isle]

Do HL/ Quake maps support a pakrat type thing?
Or, do they do them off the bat?

[ancient depot]

@steel scarab yes

see the pins

[steel scarab]

it's not showing up for me

[ancient depot]

@solid isle pakrat?

[chrome wagon]

I've extracted some textures from half-life wad's and put them into a texture folder...

[solid isle]

like uhhh

basically, how tf do I embed textures lol

[ancient depot]

@steel scarab You need to enter a branch password, it's all listed in the pinned posts

[solid isle]

pakrat is a Source way of embedding props and textures

something like that?

[ancient depot]

It's a setting for map compilers

I forget the exact details

[kindred epoch]

One As Many's attack sound doesn't seem to be changing.

[ancient depot]

once we support texture wads and replacements for q1bsp it wont be a problem

[chrome wagon]

In the case of crossfire, it didn't worked, but for several singleplayer maps i've tested it worked.

[ancient depot]

@kindred epoch attack and alert sounds for enemies dont replace yet

we'll fix that soon

[kindred epoch]

both? dang bro

well at least the idle worked.

the rest probably will too when the fix goes up

[ancient depot]

yup

its caused by a quirk of how those sounds are set up

[chrome wagon]

XD

it's 4 am for me. Otherwise i would had some fun with textures =P

[small gate]

I distinctively recall something about an ambience track for the SDK release tho, was it released or is it pending

[ancient depot]

would have to ask Andrew about that

[small gate]

there's only so much portishead tracks to listen to

[half vessel]

i've gone too far

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480394371863412748/662557273499107338/unknown.png

[ancient depot]

lmao

[small gate]

perfection

[honest stag]

alright be real with me here what the fuck is that noise that just appears sometimes in campaign levels
sounds like someone in a racecar 100m away

it wasnt there before

[ancient depot]

lmao, got a video?

[honest stag]

i'll try to capture it

it's at random too

sometimes multiple times in 1 level

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662558348956270614/unknown.png

i flipped it

i'll see if i can get it to unstretch

[small gate]

that fucking wendigo expression is amazing

[small gate]

wendave is just so happy to chase you

[elfin ore]

ok so i guess not ALL the vo's are broke

[honest stag]

alright i found a way to get it consistently

[half vessel]

nope i couldn't get it to unstretch

[honest stag]

starting e3m1 makes it appear every time, multiple at once

i have no clue what the fuck is it

kinda creepy too

[ancient depot]

I'll investigate it tomorrow and see if I can find out what's going on

[honest stag]

can anyone else try it out and see if the sound is present?

[half vessel]

sure

[honest stag]

it's so weird and off that i actually had to take off my headphones in case it was irl

reminds me of an air raid sound

or a siren

[half vessel]

wait is like that

[half vessel]

'vrooom'?

[honest stag]

yeah yeah yeah

[solid isle]

what modding menu?>

[honest stag]

holy shit you got it too?

[ancient depot]

from the main menu you should have a modding button

[solid isle]

uhhhh

[hard pollen]

Benjamin franklin gun mod for DUSK.

[ancient depot]

if it's not there then you aren't running the sdk

[honest stag]

toaster, you got the same sound?

[ancient depot]

the SDK is a launch option

[solid isle]

oh

im big stupid

[ancient depot]

alternatively you can try going into the game folder and opening the batch file in the SDK folder

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541580276179009558/662559743692242964/vroom.mp3

this?

[honest stag]

lemme see

not loading yet

yes yes YES

[half vessel]

hm

[honest stag]

that's the one

what the hell is it i have never heard it before

[half vessel]

yeah same

[ancient depot]

wtf

haunted game

[honest stag]

dusk is fucking haunted help

lol

[half vessel]

hmmm

where's the gore textures

i can find the map gore

[honest stag]

i was checking random levels in noclip and got it too

[half vessel]

not the enemy gib

[ancient depot]

they're in the main textures folder

they start with gore_

[torpid agate]

Finally got the q3 textures to load hek ye.

[half vessel]

aren't those the ones for the map gore though?

like in the thresher

[ancient depot]

oh right, which ones do you mean then

[half vessel]

enemy gibs

or can those not be retextured yet

[ancient depot]

I think it's just objects/gib.png

[half vessel]

ah yeah

there it is

thanks

[ancient depot]

np

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662561466066534401/unknown.png

i can already tell that this was a horrible

horrible mistake

[stuck gate]

bruh

[small gate]

I see no mistake there

only miracles

[little bay]

i got my first mod semi working

[half vessel]

another discovery

blood textures can't be changed

for like

the blood mist and whatnot

[elfin ore]

menu music replacement isn't working either

i can't wait until i can fully fuck this up lmao

[half vessel]

WAIT NO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662562408698478595/unknown.png

IT'S WORKING

okay so

the blood clouds

don't work

but blood_splat.png does

[little bay]

right now my mod is only for audio but i really want to expand to textures, I'll show a video for context

[small gate]

how about the crossbow bolt

lots of tiny daves stacked

[honest stag]

alright so there is another sound now which i dont recognize appearing randomly this game is actually haunted
it's like someone is hitting a ball with a ball in billiards

it's so out of place too

[half vessel]

where's it

[little bay]

a lot of sounds are out of place

[errant ginkgo]

Is there an fgd included with the beta?

[elfin ore]

so i replaced the menu music in my mods file, the music stopped playing, i removed it, music still isnt playing

oh god

[honest stag]

so far - in e3m1 again by stading still for i dunno a minute or two it should appear

[little bay]

https://i.imgur.com/OKxlp5D.png i dont remember hearing this one

[ancient depot]

the blood clouds use smoke2 I think

@errant ginkgo not yet, we'll be publishing a full trenchbroom support kit later

[errant ginkgo]

Ahh alright, thanks

[long anchor]

wait, is it even possible now to make maps?

[ancient depot]

yes

[long anchor]

hmm

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541580276179009558/662563809428504586/unknown.png

well uh

i did it

i put big john on the bolt

except it only appears when it's a fired projectile

and it's almost unnoticeable

[honest stag]

oh man those alternate sounds in the folder sound actually sick

[small gate]

bolt john haha thats me

[gritty forge]

HELLO

[long anchor]

so, i got this: https://imgur.com/uw0HtoT

[errant ginkgo]

what map did you use?

[little bay]

yeah thats happened to me for a few frames

[long anchor]

what map did you use?
my map

[ancient depot]

that happens when loading fails, we have a fix for that coming

but I have a hotfix you can use right now

[long anchor]

oh

gimme gimme

[ancient depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662546782873714709/662551853468221440/NewBlood.dll

put this in SDK/bin/win_x64/Dusk_Data/Managed

[long anchor]

thanks

hope it'll work

[fierce lava]

thank u sir

[little bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOM9Z783mAE heres my wip mod

excuse my terrible aim

[half vessel]

the fucking minecraft noises

lmao

[long anchor]

heh

[half vessel]

oh it's all minecraft

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662565279888572417/unknown.png i think i've gone too far this time

like

actually too far

[fierce lava]

crossbow is fireworks lmao

[little bay]

1:36 i used the assault rifle with fast fire, its nuts

[honest stag]

this chopmer pic is actually making me laugh hysterically

[small gate]

the real deal: a mod that makes all death sounds the roblox oof voiceclip

[misty barn]

Wolfenstein Death sounds

[small gate]

MEIN LEIBEN

[little bay]

finally, hDusk

[half vessel]

we can finally add cultist screams to dusk

[long anchor]

i want dusk campaign but every enemy is big john

[half vessel]

i'm working on it

[long anchor]

yas

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662558348956270614/unknown.png

here's a preview

[little bay]

HAHAHA thats amazing

[long anchor]

nice

[brisk bobcat]

I’m waiting to see who makes the pizza time mod for dusk

[honest stag]

"the wind brings the stench of rotten UHGAHAHA KILL ME"

[half vessel]

i need to change the tornado noise

[small gate]

oh god, the altar, thats a prime candidate for the "KILL ME KILL ME" soundclip

[half vessel]

yeah

i can't even tell what to do with the boneball

i might just make the skulls john

and leave it at that

[ancient depot]

when you said altar I thought you were talking about this but then I remembered it's unused and we don't have an entity exposed for it yet

[long anchor]

so, map loaded, but there are no textures: https://imgur.com/blYOzqU
compiling problem or..?

[chrome wagon]

Question: Which is the name of the "sprite" the crossbow spawns over the projectile?

which map is it?

[long anchor]

i made one

[chrome wagon]

Ah, no idea then.

[half vessel]

the crossbow bolt?

[ancient depot]

@long anchor you need to tell the map compiler to embed the textures

[half vessel]

the ammo pickup or the damaging one

[ancient depot]

if you're using ericw tools it should have a command line option

[long anchor]

yep

[elfin ore]

anyone know why the main menu audio is cutting off like this?

[half vessel]

oh neat

[ancient depot]

@chrome wagon I dont think that has a texture actually

[half vessel]

found a developer room in e3m1

[ancient depot]

I think it's just a particle shape

so you cant change it yet

[chrome wagon]

aaah, ok

[half vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541580276179009558/662569025704034304/unknown.png

[elfin ore]

when i get rid of the custom music it just goes completely goes silent

[half vessel]

there's a bolt texture in weapons

try that

[ancient depot]

thats actually a spawn room

thats where enemies sit while they wait to teleport in

[half vessel]

ah

there's nothing in there though

i also found a blue key door in the void

[ancient depot]

the enemies already teleported then, or the room is unused

[half vessel]

it doesn't open

hm

i think i'm going to give up on cartdog

i can't find a way to get it look good

[little bay]

will textures break if i change them to one of a lower resolution

[high magnet]

@ancient depot Altar was like the megasphere right?

[ancient depot]

I dont actually remember

[high magnet]

In those old ass pre NB versions that you posted in this discord a long time ago that's what I think they did

[ancient depot]

@little bay no

[half vessel]

wait where are uhhhhhh

weyte's textures

[ancient depot]

monsters folder

[half vessel]

ah nargle

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500927522398142484/662570905029050409/unknown.png

[ancient depot]

put the coomerface on jakob

[half vessel]

that is a horrible idea

done

[peak trellis]

first thing i'm doing when i get time is i'm just gonna replace all the textures to enemies and make them look terrifying

just cause i can

[high magnet]

Define terrifying

[half vessel]

@ancient depot look what you made me do

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541580276179009558/662572159209701387/unknown.png

[viscid sinew]

I'm gonna make a "pro gamer FPS config" mod

[ancient depot]

lmfao

[viscid sinew]

holy shit

[peak trellis]

@high magnet Like, spooky unironically

because i've always found low poly things with weird textures scary

[high magnet]

How will you spookify the horrors

[long anchor]

@ancient depot so, how do i "tell the map compiler to embed the textures"? is it even possible to use necros comgui?

[peak trellis]

I have no idea

but i'll figure that out

at some point.

probably distort their textures in some way

[ancient depot]

not sure, I'm unfamiliar with that compiler

[high magnet]

I'm excited to see how that'll turn out

[long anchor]

oh

then what compiler you would recommend?

[peak trellis]

Dusk is the first game i've ever wanted to legitimately mod for so starting off with something simple like that would be fun

[little bay]

^^^

[ancient depot]

ericw tools

[long anchor]

uhm

[gritty forge]

Time to replace every texture with cropped porn.