Screen.DrawTexture(mWall,False,0,0,DTA_VirtualWidth,360,DTA_VirtualHeight,270,True);
For example this is: always draw the background wall the way it would look at a 360x270 resolution
#general-modding
unique trellis
lean gyro
Of course, I could always just go with the base resolution of 640x480. 
unique trellis
To simplify I have applied that concept to every menu items making sure mouse detection was not messed up
lean gyro
I wonder if it's possible to make two specific layouts (4:3, 16:9), slam everything into a single object, and rescale that huge group like a viewport.
unique trellis
I made sure things would look good at 4:3 (which cuts the sides) and then everything else was fine
By accident it makes things work at weird resolutions too, although it looks stretched
lean gyro
I'd probably be pedantic and make two specific layouts, personally, though each layout can be stretched depending on the ratio.
For 16:10 and similar widescreen resolutions, it'd stretch the 16:9 layout. For 5:4, 3:2, and so on, it'd stretch the 4:3 layout.
Or hell, since people can do really weird shit, just default to 4:3 if it's not a recognized 16:9 resolution. :V
unique trellis
Your approach will not work, cause the menu will look different at resolutions internal to the sam ratios.
1280x720 != 1920x1080
lean gyro
That's why I thought of treating the entire layout as a single viewport, if it was possible.
But that might be beyond the scope of what's possible with ZScript.
lean gyro
unique trellis
If you do that you have to rewrite
EVERYTHING
And I say that because to apply my approach i literally rewrote every single menu item
lean gyro
Man, I'm just a shitty GUI designer. My programming skills are awful.
sudden herald
even if it means PAIN
lean gyro
I can make the interface, and break it up in a way that would work in the context of an interactive game menu, but fuck me. I drop the ball the moment coding comes into play.
unique trellis
You want me to give you an overview of how menus work?
So when you look at the code you will understand
Something
sudden herald
id be willing to listen since thats what i wanted to learn after
lean gyro
I would, but I've got to head home in seven minutes.
unique trellis
Ok a menu is like a container
But is like a container of a container.
The menu items are stored in a dynamic array that the menu can access to draw them on screen
sudden herald
this is totally stupid and useless but could you theoretically make a horizontal main menu
unique trellis
Override void Drawer()
{
for(int i = 0; i < mItemCount; i++)
{
OptionMenuItemClassSubMenu(mDesc.mItems[i]).Draw(mDesc.mSelectedItem == i);
}
}```You can yes
sudden herald
since its just arrays
unique trellis
The menu uses its Drawer() function to tell the menu items to wake up and draw things on screen
But the big of the action happens inside the menu items
You can see above that the menu sends info to the items about which item is selected
mDesc.mSelectedItem == i
sudden herald
ye
unique trellis
For example I used this to make the selected item animate when selected
By default it is used to change color of the item
There are two types of menus:
List menu (the main menu) and the Option menu (everything else)
sudden herald
oh man can you have it like change the indivdual x position of the selected text
thats something i wanted to do
sudden herald
ye
unique trellis
Give me a sec to look around
List menus and Option menus behave slightly differently by default (can be changed)
Override void Drawer(bool selected)
{
TextureId TexToDraw = selected ? mSelected : mTexture;
Screen.DrawTexture(TexToDraw, true, mXpos, mYpos);
}
This is the drawer of one of my list menu items
The position of the item is determined by mXpos and mYpos
You can do
lean gyro
What if the main menu options are images, not a text-based list?
unique trellis
Override void Drawer(bool selected)
{
int Xpos = mXpos + (selected ? 100 : 0);
Screen.DrawTexture(TexToDraw, true, Xpos, mYpos);
}
This shifts the text by 100 units when it is selected
This example uses images
In fact you can see I use DrawTexture
Jakob: fugg
sudden herald
could i tie it to a movement variable or something and make it slide in/out
i'd presume but
unique trellis
Yes
You can use MenuTime() as an ever increasing value to modulate through sin and cos to dinamycally change the position
sudden herald
NICE
unique trellis
Override void Drawer(bool selected)
{
int Xpos = mXpos * sin(MenuTime());
Screen.DrawTexture(TexToDraw, true, Xpos, mYpos);
}
Example
Better exmple
Override void Drawer(bool selected)
{
int Xpos = mXpos + (selected ? 100 * sin(MenuTime() : 0);
Screen.DrawTexture(TexToDraw, true, Xpos, mYpos);
}
Options menu drawing is more complex but the idea is that it starts drawing from the top visible item and then draws the others adding the font height every time it is done drawing one item
int i;
for(i = 0; i < mItemCount && y <= lastrow; i++)
{
// Don't scroll the uppermost items
if(i == mDesc.mScrollTop)
{
i += mDesc.mScrollPos;
if(i >= mItemCount) break; // skipped beyond end of menu
}
bool isSelected = mDesc.mSelectedItem == i;
mDesc.mItems[i].Draw(mDesc, y, indent, isSelected);
y += OptionMenuSettings.mLinespacing;
}
Everything else is better learnt by looking at the menu code but as a final info
mDesc.mPosition
is the y coordinate at which the menu items will start being drawn
Thanks for coming to my mildly helpful TED talk
sudden herald
its insanely cool knowing you have way more flexibility regardless
i couldve only have dreamed about stuff like this back in 2013 when i started
unique trellis
You can also create custom menus
Since as of right now the class menu cannot be customized I made my own and a map selection menu https://youtu.be/QfJar0m6TWw
sudden herald
is the map selection menu episode based or is there a wacky way to jump to maps i dont know about
unique trellis
No no
it is a custom map menu
No episode menu
I ued Graf's favorite friend
Console Command
Which exists only in the option menus
It's called OptionMenuItemCommand
You can initialize it to store a console command
In my case it is "map THE_MAP_I_NEED"
sudden herald
oh wow haha
unique trellis
OptionMenuItemMapCommandBig Init(String label, Name command, String Time, bool centered = false, bool closeonselect = false)
This is the initialization
When the command is activated I close all the menus otherwise you would be warped to the level with menus still open
Override bool Activate()
{
Bool Activation = Super.Activate();
if(Activation)
{
for(int i = 0; i <= 2; i++)
{
Let CurMenu = Menu.GetCurrentMenu();
if(CurMenu != Null) { CurMenu.Close(); }
}
}
return Activation;
}
To make the command not abusable it can only be used in an Option menu and the original Activate() cannot be edited
If you do GZDoom refuses to boot
unique trellis
I bet that was less painful than anything SBARINFO related you have ever done
viscid sandal
So we're trying to move to hdrp in unity and having an issue with the lighting washing everything out colors wise, anyone know how to address this?
@pine carbon hate to bug you but would you know anything about this? ^
wraith beacon
I'd assume that HDRP uses the Aces colour space?
viscid sandal
I wouldn't know
wraith beacon
Also I'd advise not using HDRP for your sort of game since it's super heavy from what I've heard.
viscid sandal
Well we were using the lightweight pipeline but it was really chokeholding what we could do.
tranquil oracle
Is there any reason you really need to use SRP for your game?
viscid sandal
Our choices were make the lighting look flat or have lights disapearing left and right, and unfortunately baking didn't seem to work out well.
tranquil oracle
I toyed with using SRP for the SDK but decided against it due to various limitations
wraith beacon
Doesn't UWRP have deferred rendering?
viscid sandal
...
tranquil oracle
It's also possible your game was made with gamma colour space in mind, which HDRP doesn't support
It only supports linear
viscid sandal
I don't really know much about unity tbh, I was just trying to make the lighting not look like this.
Lightweight had this issue to but there were things I could tweak to fix it.
wraith beacon
Most modern game visual things in my experience tend to use Linear/aces because it works better with PBR and such.
tranquil oracle
I'd say just avoid SRP for now unless you absolutely need to use it
viscid sandal
Srp?
viscid sandal
Ok so what should we use?
tranquil oracle
The built in Unity renderer
viscid sandal
ok
wraith beacon
Speaking of Aces.
I kinda with UE4 didn't require a console command to turn it off.
viscid sandal
I'm sure he had some reason for doing it, I'll see if I can figure out why
tranquil oracle
SRP is going to be the way forward eventually, so that was probably the motivator
for now you're fine with the built in renderer though
viscid sandal
I do know we have made a few custom shaders for various things.
tranquil oracle
HDRP in particular isn't considered production-ready yet anyway, afaik
viscid sandal
I would use the lwp but the lighting limits are atrocious
tranquil oracle
LDRP is mostly for mobile
viscid sandal
Ah
wraith beacon
Isn't it called UWRP these days anyway?
tranquil oracle
I believe so
viscid sandal
So would this prevent us from making custom shaders
tranquil oracle
Nah
viscid sandal
ok
wraith beacon
Unity confuses me sometimes because it feels like 90% of the deprecated features don't have finished replacements yet.
wraith beacon
It'd kinda be like if UE4 deprecated Cascade while Niagra was still in it's infancy.
Well, I guess they sorta did that probably but oh well.
Modular game engines suck, let's just go back to hard coding TBH.
tranquil oracle
wraith beacon
Then again I guess UE4 is pretty hardcoded in places, like the render pipeline
eternal nacelle
just use clickteam fusion lmao
tranquil oracle
UE4 is a 90s engine wearing the skin of a modern one
wraith beacon
I should probably just learn HLSL and compile my own engine branch at this point because it feels like I'm fighting with the render pipeline a lot.
Because I kinda am doing things it isn't designed to do.
tranquil oracle
pull a power move and just write your own engine
wraith beacon
I'm too pea brained for that, remember I use blueprint.
tranquil oracle
Never a bad time to try
eternal nacelle
I swear there was a dude here at some point who like made his own engine or something
wraith beacon
Eh true but it's kinda intimidating with where to start and libraries and all of that stuff.
And it takes away time from making the vidya game.
Which is the fun part.
Anyway I expect Source 2 to be hardcoded as frick as well.
If that ever becomes available for license.
wraith beacon
Eh maybe but I don't think there's even a working deferred renderer for it since all it's really been used for is VR and MOBAs and mobile card games.
tranquil oracle
We'll see I suppose
viscid sandal
@tranquil oracle says its due to us not being able to use the shader graph
tranquil oracle
You may need to find an alternative to ShaderGraph in that case
Otherwise you'll need to fiddle with SRP until it looks right
keen bear
It really shouldnt be a big problem
in fact, you should be able to export the code version of your shader and use it as a shader in SRP
viscid sandal
@keen bear do you mean the built in pipeline or?
keen bear
uh yeah, whoops
wraith beacon
Added big doors
That's all. Keeping things a bit more confidential up until the upcoming demo.
Also look at all this overdraw lol.
Disadvantage to using transparent cubes instead of lights is you get this.
autumn portal
@wraith beacon do you accept criticisms? no this isn't gonna be me saying your thing sucks
autumn portal
is that dubba barrel powerful? if so, i think it sounds a lil weak
needs more of a meaty feel
there's like an inhale of air at the start that make it feel like a toy gun
coarse token
yeah sounds kinda like a cap gun
outer eagle
I'm pretty sure that's the intent, I personally love it
autumn portal
it is a very cute game so it's not a huge issue
wraith beacon
Remaking TTR's revolver
wraith beacon
Long revolver.
unique trellis
Layout test of the first portion of my first map for DoomFrag https://youtu.be/oH3TCfbFRnQ
unique trellis
wtf is that a bhop angle thing at your crosshair
Yes
The square immediately to the right point out when you have to let go of the jump key and repress it to be able to make the next jump
The Green line is the ideal strafejumping mouse position
And the red line indicates the angle you have to move the mouse to get out of the dead zone
There is also a yellow line for the crouchslide that shows the amount of time left
crystal kraken
that little bhop indicator is probably a better tutorial than everything on the internet or on game tutorials right now
unique trellis
There's like a browser bhop trainer that has something like that
crystal kraken
fixed
unique trellis
I think the bhop help tool in Diabotical is quite good, but I preferred something that explicitly told you where the crosshair needed to be
wraith beacon
New Revolver.
near mortar
The revolver's disdain for society is so strong it cut the video short
weak root
unique trellis
My god, his effects are glorious.
unique trellis
low thicket
finished sinew & clay level 2, idk if i'll be putting out a test build yet but i wanted to show off the new weapon sprites
unique trellis
in the third image the opening looks out of place.
Considering it is a jungle like environment i would expect something less square than 4 perfect 45 degrees slopes
low thicket
well, "jungle", i guess i should explain
it's like the library you're in turns into a forest-ey area, like it's been enchanted or something
so there's still bookshelves and stuff hanging around
i can see how it might not be fitting considering i barely use slopes
low thicket
adjusted those to be flat, it's actually more consistent with the environmental design
unique trellis
No you are raw
misty sparrow
im gonna do something raw to you if you keep it up
unique trellis
low thicket
thanks, i pretty much drew all of it myself
i think the trees were made from a cc0 3d model of a tree i found on opengameart? but even then i sprited them and drew all over it
the weapons are made from my own 3d models
hazy sorrel
imo too raw
low thicket
dam
humble herald
@low thicket good stuff, art style is super unique
low thicket
thanks guys, i appreciate the kind words
the artstyle here was inspired by the artstyle of a mod called shrine, which is a really good mod
actually reminds me, i still have yet to write music for the mod
right now the levels have castlevania midis in the background lol
unique trellis
Society
coarse token
Anyone with texture, modelling, and / or visual effects experience interested in working on a project together? DM me for more information.
unique trellis
think hakita had some 3d modeling bois
coarse token
already asked those guys
they're either working on their own stuff or not interested in a new project
unique trellis
unique trellis
keen bear
that is pretty nice
analog pollen
damn, didnt know this was a thing
unique trellis
Dude I swear I find so much good shit in random twitter posts
wraith beacon
Bold gang's up to no good.
near mortar
Spherical fire
hazy sorrel
looks like something fun
lofty trellis
it takes some time to acclimate
lofty trellis
im working on a map for the mod tho, a tutorial to let players learn at their own pace
lofty trellis
shouldnt take more than 10 ish minutes to beat since i want to be in depth so that people cant complain that the mod is "confusing"
near mortar
Usually mod creators utilize the help menu in the game for that and mention it on the download page for the mod, at least from what I've seen
Whatever works though
Especially if the mod is particularly complicated
lofty trellis
the mod makes use of a stimulant system to heal on command as long as you have reserve shots.
weapons use magazines rather than individual pooled rounds, save for shotguns that load individual shells.
and lastly, the player can move faster than normal with a spriting, double jumping, crouch sliding system
is that complex enough?
also tell that to the Hideous Destructor Creator, he explained things in-depth and people STILL had to make a damn bootcamp tutorial map to help out new players.
hazy sorrel
Hideous Destructor 
near mortar
To be fair Hideous Destructor is hilariously overcomplicated for the sake of it
I think you could probably fit all of that into a couple of pages on the Help menu though as compared to the laundry list of random bullcrap that HD has going on
lofty trellis
honestly i like to think HD is Arma: Doom Edition
hazy sorrel
nah HDest can be dynamic and fun at the same time
if you have the slightest idea what are you doing
lofty trellis
ive seen videos from ZikShadow, so i know that much
its not my cup of tea, but It's still fun to watch
hazy sorrel
ive played HDest with plenty megawads so i know what im dealing with
wraith beacon
New shomtgun.
near mortar
big shotgun
near mortar
Thing's a freaking sawed off punt gun
wraith beacon
I mean, this is the original.
(To be fair the new one is just a really heavily tweaked old one but shhhh)
neat hare
you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about
wraith beacon
Also the hammers on the new one are kinda shaped like the letter S so I'm happy about that.
wraith beacon
Yeah but real Hatsu is dead so you have to settle with fake Hatsu's esoteric reason.
hazy sorrel
Hatsu is Dead
viscid sandal
@tranquil oracle so we tried the built in pipeline and apparently the lighting limits cap is the same
unique trellis
he be shootin and gunnin
keen bear
What is the limit you're referring to?
unique trellis
They had some problem with lighting I think
zombie said they should try switching back to the normal unity renderer
instead of the scripted pipeline
analog pollen
probably not the same issue but there's a hard limit on how many vertex lights can be affecting a mesh at the same time, have run up against that a lot
unique trellis
Viscerafest is gonna have 1000 lights in every scene!
analog pollen
relatable
unique trellis
Can't you have as many lights as you want if they're static
analog pollen
if they're pixel lights, possible? i dont know, but there's like a hardware limit on vertex lights or smth
i'm not very smart but this is what i understood
unique trellis
I mean they should be precalculated then right?
lean gyro
Baked lights are pretty much limited to the software you used to place them and generate lightmaps.
Think of the lights as another texture layer on top of the world geometry, but generated when the map is compiled.
feral knot
Maybe a little yeast
wraith beacon
Don't have to bake lights/deal with light limits if your lights are just transparent cubes 😎
But you have to deal with a bunch of other poopie instead so maybe it's best just to use lights.
viscid sandal
@unique trellis no its still limited
We tried baking lights but for whatever reason unity hates us and that didn't work either.
wraith beacon
Tried setting the render mode to deferred?
viscid sandal
Nah what does it do?
wraith beacon
Allows for more lights in a drawcall because it makes the lighting pass screenspace.
keen bear
Yeah i mean you should probably be baking your lighting for a game like viscerafest
Not to say you can't also have dynamic lights
But for the level geometry at least, which is static, and level lighting, which is probably also static, there's no real reason not to
viscid sandal
@keen bear not all the lights were bakimg properly when we tried it.
@wraith beacon urp doesn't support it apparently
keen bear
Deferred is 100% supported
analog pollen
it's a camera setting isnt it
keen bear
Were the lights not baking, or was your Geo not set to accept baked lighting
viscid sandal
It was baking some of the lights but not all of them, basically the lights that had a tendency to flicker and disapear would not bake.
keen bear
What lol
viscid sandal
Yes
analog pollen
sounds similar to my problem where you can only have a limited amount of lights affecting a single mesh
keen bear
Baked lights aren't lights
viscid sandal
Thats exactly my issue
analog pollen
yeah that's a hardware thing, you can't fix that afaik
you can raise the limit to like 8 but not beyond that
keen bear
You can have an infinite number of baked lights
viscid sandal
I'm telling you we baked the lighting and if they didn't work unbaked they didn't bake at all
keen bear
It's extremely likely you just had some settings wrong
Baked lighting is precalculated, and just applied as a texture effectively, theres no hardware limit, or any limit at all really
viscid sandal
I know
keen bear
Lightmap resolution and atlas size are limited
viscid sandal
This is not news to me.
unique trellis
How do you do your light flickering
viscid sandal
Wat
analog pollen
could you like bake half the lights, then bake the other half and then combine those bakes or something
unique trellis
are you using a script to turn on and off your lights?
keen bear
You could but there's no reason to
You can get them all to bake at once, we do hundreds of lights per level in some of our games
analog pollen
alright, just throwing the idea out there in case awesreek cant get it to work on his end for whatever reason
keen bear
I'd be more afraid of that introducing other issues
analog pollen
i wouldnt know, i've never worked with baked lights
analog pollen
and i'm stupid and impatient so i'm staying with realtime lights
unique trellis
Yeah but you only have like 3 rooms loaded at a time max
analog pollen
yeah cause i'm stupid and impatient
wraith beacon
Just use deferred rendering LMAO
analog pollen
he says it isnt an option for some reason
unique trellis
Okey Hatsu "I've never used Unity"
wraith beacon
Jokes on you I have used Unity for some things.
unique trellis
basically the lights that had a tendency to flicker and disapear would not bake.
actually wait a second what did he mean by this
analog pollen
basically you can only have a certain amount of vertex lights on a single mesh, so if you have more than that they're fighting for which ones get rendered and which ones dont, causing the flickering
or at least that's what happens to me and he said he had a similar issue
viscid sandal
Yes
wraith beacon
Just use Built-in, while having shadergraph is nice if you're fighting with the renderer you're not going to have a good time
keen bear
Yeah the RP stuff is really undercooked
tranquil oracle
Yeah there's no deferred support in SRP yet
That's another reason I avoided it for the SDK
unique trellis
Hello modders 
misty sparrow
Hello COOL NB member Jakob who HATES me for NO REASON how are YOU doing TODAY? ;;;;)
unique trellis
I only hate u cus ur having fun and I'm not
eternal nacelle
as is the case with any miserable person
near mortar
Not me, I just hate you because you're very hateable 
north python
It's sprite color* editing
An example would be
making mario green or something
but who would ever do that
unique trellis
Not Nintendo
north python
Absolutely not
weak cargo
ooh i was playin swwmgz last night
deep pulsar
PS: you can't dual wield but this was so good I'm definitely making it happen
weak cargo
fuckin neato
misty sparrow
Need to finish up my DoomZero+MetaDoom run first
unique trellis
you didn't even post a link tho smh
unique trellis
@deep pulsar feels like the player is taller then normal, might not be able to get thrue some maps?
unique trellis
okey I also can't seam to pickup the super shotgun
Might be because I have full ammo
deep pulsar
Note: If you can't pick up a weapon, it's because it's not implemented.
the mod is in alpha heh
deep pulsar
try the other ammo types
unique trellis
I feel like the shotgun should auto reload and then have it play the reload animation when you switch ammo types
I picked up a 6 pack of explosives and it left 2 single ammo pickups on the ground cus I could only carry 4 more
10/10
deep pulsar
what do you mean auto reload
if you keep holding the fire button it reloads when needed
also have you noticed
those explosives
take a closer look owo
unique trellis
Who holds the fire button down on a shotgun tho
wraith beacon
Me.
unique trellis
Reee
@deep pulsar I feel like the aim is a little bit off like you're still doing the raycast from the old camera position
unique trellis
I mean like up and down
deep pulsar
huh?
unique trellis
by default gzdoom projectile functions do not hit the crosshair
unless fired at camera height and without any spawn offset
I think he's trying to say the projectiles are hitting below the croshair
deep pulsar
all the weapons fire exactly from the center of the screen, with a slight offset to line up with the model
unique trellis
let me record a video
deep pulsar
and this even accounts for view bob
unique trellis
deep pulsar
uh
I told you
it's the offset
making weapons aim EXACTLY where the crosshair is would look weird in many cases anyway
especially when close up
the shots would appear to "bend"
unique trellis
Yeah but rn I'm aiming above people on range
deep pulsar
not to mention that there's some slight spread even on this gun
unique trellis
You can make them be offset and still hit the crosshair.
The projectiles do not bend if you set the target position to be the map geometry
deep pulsar
they're not projectiles
unique trellis
The bend does happen if you set the target to be a monster right in front of you far from any wall
Projectiles/hitscans
deep pulsar
and there's no "target" set
unique trellis
I know
Because there is no raytracing happening before the shot is fired to calculate the necessary angle and pitch to hit the crosshair
deep pulsar
I could do that, but I don't want to
again, because it'd feel weird
if there was an iron sights feature THEN I would do that
unique trellis
I always do like this that I raycast from the camera then I shoot the projectile from where the gun is to the point of impact
I have modded an entire weapon pack setting the raycast to go through the actors and only stop at geometry and no bend happens
deep pulsar
then the shot will be misaligned with the direction the gun is aiming at
some people CAN tell that it'll look off
even if it's a small offset
unique trellis
Well I haven't worked with viewmodels but you can rotate the weapon to point towards that location
wraith beacon
Or you can just, fire from the centre of the screen, like most games do.
deep pulsar
now THAT would really be weird
unique trellis
From personal experience the offset mismatch with the weapon is so minimal it is almost unnoticable
deep pulsar
besides, I never play with a crosshair
wraith beacon
Yeah, most people don't really notice/care. I like having a crosshair though.
unique trellis
And it can be very much tamed offsetting the spawn point of the projectile/hitscan forward
deep pulsar
sure you can do that
but there is a limit to that
the doom player is 16 units thicc
and taking the view height and pitching into account, you'd actually have an even lower max forwards offset so as to not start firing from inside the ceiling
unique trellis
If you use the aforementioned raycast you can set the projectile to not be spawned forward if the distance between player and wall for example is less than the desired offset
Anyhow, different point of views
unique trellis
I do not understand why you are making me sound like i am complaining.
I brought a different point of view, you can do as you please
deep pulsar
I'm not talking to you
unique trellis
Ah ok
strange kayak
still trying to force myself to learn doom modding while I be in isolation
lemme rephrase that; I’m good on programming and scripting but I can’t do art to save my life lmao
That pistol looks sick tho Jakob
unique trellis
it's marisa's mod
strange kayak
Is it a 3D model or just a really good sprite?
unique trellis
Jakob made a video of it
I do not mean to answer for Marisa but that looks like a model
strange kayak
That’s insane. Are those hard to implement? I’ve only seen them in a few mods and Doomsday
unique trellis
I am not a model in doom expert but the gist is that you set a weapon to use a certain sprite and in another file you set that sprite to be renamed by a model
In MODELDEF
unique trellis
zdoom wiki is a good start
deep pulsar
using models for weapons is terribly awkward
each frame has to be assigned to a sprite
wraith beacon
Implementing the new shomtgun.
Oh and now it's shell ejection actually makes sense.
unique trellis
uh oh
wraith beacon
unique trellis
Smooth...perfect
wraith beacon
Once the demo's done I'm going to probably do a ton of code cleanup because I'm starting to get lost in the maze of blueprint spaghetti again.
unique trellis
Ah yes
the blueprint spaghetti
Such a lust for spaghetti
When is Hatsu going to learn how to c0de
wraith beacon
When you finish a bideo game.
unique trellis
Can you convert blueprint into actual written code?
you mean like release?
ah heck
wraith beacon
Yeah.
unique trellis
he sure got me
wraith beacon
Blueprint can be converted to C++
wraith beacon
I won't deny that BP isn't very efficient when compared to raw UE4 C++ but it's been a good jumping off point for game dev for me.
unique trellis
Although C++ is the coding language of the devil
Don't roast me
Hatsu how about we make a deal
I code for u
wraith beacon
Nah.
unique trellis
damn
analog pollen
rigid sorrel
Can't wait for this game
analog pollen
same
hearty wolf
eternal nacelle
yeah okay buddy where's the monkey
analog pollen
in our hearts
rigid sorrel
🐵
analog pollen
lil monkey fella, died in the human apocalypse
eternal nacelle
rip monkey news
unique trellis
Is that a crouchslide when the video starts?
analog pollen
yeah you've got an infinite slide
unique trellis
If I may say I think that spark model looks a bit out of place without a leg to associate it with
But crouchslides are always cool 👍
analog pollen
yeah but it's necessary for the visual feedback so you know when you're sliding and where, and i'm not really a fan of adding legs to FPS games since imo they usually just get in the way
unique trellis
Generally speaking I have always found sounds to be enough for a slide cue
But of course do as you prefer
analog pollen
in most games it'll do fine but with ULTRAKILL the sounds are so distorted and cranked up that it'd be very easy for a lesser sound like the sliding to be lost in the midst of it, so while in 90% of the time it'd be enough, i think it's better to keep the visual effect just to be sure
unique trellis
Good argument
analog pollen
if it's an issue for a lot of people tho i can add an option to disable it
tired warren
What if we modded Maximum Action weapons into Half Life Alyx
tired warren
ULTRAKILL is a Sims fangame
deep pulsar
ultrakill is neat
it's nice seeing more cute robutts whomst schutt
I'd throw you all my money, if I had any
analog pollen
you can spread the word instead, that helps too
deep pulsar
oh I tell everyone about this game where you can parry everything
it's called ultrakill and it's got a cool robutt
and yeah you can literally parry everything
unique trellis
ah yes Hakita make it so you can parry the revolver shoot
deep pulsar
I wanted to add parrying to my mod but people could start to think things
well, they already do
but I mean
it's not like "robot that goes fast and shoots" is something unique
my main source of inspiration was term's booster mod
analog pollen
it's okay you can tell em i gave you permission
but yea that happens regardless, i get a lot of people saying i ripped off that robot from apex legends but i've never even played it
deep pulsar
what's an apex legends, is it tasty
analog pollen
probably not
deep pulsar
oh so it's a battle royale
analog pollen
yea, based on titanfall 2 which is a great game but i hear they gimped it a lot to make it work as a battle royale
analog pollen
can rec titanfall 2, it's a blast both singleplayer and multiplayer and that's coming from someone who doesnt really like multiplayer games much
sudden herald
i won't lie, mapping isn't one of my strongest suits
but here's the extremely WIP intro stage for the thing i've been working on
definintely more gameplay/script inclined
analog pollen
love the music
humble herald
@sudden herald godfuckin damn that is GOOD work.
analog pollen
nice
unique trellis
@sudden herald wait a second is that the half life weapon selection sounds
near mortar
I'd reckon either stock sounds like Doom or he just used them for convenience/because he liked them/whatever
sudden herald
yes thats the hl1 weapon select sound
if it sounds synthesizer-y then i made it myself
if it sounds more mechanical then i sourced it from elsewhere
unique trellis
Twitter
toxic hemlock
yes
unique trellis
Eternal uses a new engine
unique trellis
don't care if they call it idtech 7 cus no one else can actually use it so why
If you buy a license you can use it too
Then again, you probably can't afford one
Yeah but like no one has used an idtech engine since like pre RAGE
ornate nest
It coincidentally was because it became closed source...
eternal nacelle
I mean mod support is probably gonna be a thing for doomE
ornate nest
Just might take some time and be limited like for 2k16
deep pulsar
heh
tranquil oracle
@ornate nest Does that break the SSG and some other SP guns currently?
I remember when I tried to do it those guns broke since the MP hand set lacks values that some SP guns use, so you have to merge it with the SP hand set, but it's a huge effort
tranquil oracle
Awesome
ornate nest
It was actually pretty easy
Besides, the entire ModelIndex renaming and recounting
Now im buffing the MP exclusive guns
tranquil oracle
Yeah it's just time consuming
ornate nest
(AKA grenade launcher and Reaper)
AND making them separate coop versions
Instead of replacing the MP ones
ornate nest
There we go, buffed the 2 PVP weapons, made them exclusive to coop folders and dirs, and also attempted to reintroduce a cut grenade launcher mode (Sticky)
ornate nest
Updated the vid, now it has a buffed Grenade Launcher and Reaper inside the "buffed_reaper_launcher" folder on "base"
unique trellis
sudden herald
keen bear
outer eagle
Oh shit
limber bramble
Hell yeah
naive knoll
sudden herald
north python
Salty member
naive knoll
unique trellis
ah fuck that was loud
weak root
Reimagining of the cyber demon for age of hell https://twitter.com/Bridgeburner4/status/1239617662927261699?s=19
naive knoll
unique trellis
Judging by the colour wheel those are dusk and amid evil props in Steam VR home?
neat
deep pulsar
ya ever seen a mod that lets you pay respects on death?
the harder you mash F the more of those appear
hazy sorrel
how about a mod that lets you drag monsters with cursor
and you can throw them into recycle bin
misty sparrow
thank u for reminding to try your mod
misty sparrow
n i c e
unique trellis
Until I saw the ZDoom page for SWWM GZ, I never knew it was originally going to be an Unreal mod.
Looks impressive..
inland patrol
wraith beacon
Henry's house
wraith beacon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=AbRFEkn7xMk&feature=emb_logo Friends, it's out.
Well, the demo's out.
Hope you all enjoy it as much as I have making it.
outer eagle
robust bolt
download this now
true iris
analog pollen
analog pollen
it was mentioned in that video dave did
unique trellis
ah damn
frosty bone
strong black mesa vibes
rustic holly
😉
sharp vortex
idk if I can shill this here, but I did a game jam with some friends
It's snake with farming and a cut-throat market system
near mortar
@rustic holly Not a fan of CS:GO at all myself but the map looks good both visually and gameplay wise
outer eagle
@rustic holly 2v2 eh? interesting looks rad
rustic holly
Thanks!
crystal kraken
metro 2033 redux fixes 😄
now with: world vertical fov setting without weapon fov distortion, and no multiplied horizontal fov
for a proper ultrawide experience
(and improved 16:9 one)
near mortar
Fixing metro 2033 redux's technical issues? 
crystal kraken
at least for the gog version because I don't own the steam one
cheat engine is prob. the best free interactive debugging tool, the auto assembler utility in it is beautiful
just wish their installer wouldn't try to install PUP, fucking hell
crystal kraken
ugh still fucks up when cutscenes are engaged
likely unfixable outside of simply turning vfov down if these are activated, no idea how yet tho
unique trellis
Dude cheatengine has so many features
wraith beacon
I present to you, bouncing trees
analog pollen
unique trellis
Me looking for the beans
analog pollen
why'd you spill em
unique trellis
Because I have no self respect
analog pollen
rustic holly
@ionic torrent Do you have the contact for this guy?
ionic torrent
I don’t know him personally, I just like his work @rustic holly
tame arch
From the video description:
- strictly speaking, using Epic assets in a non-Epic game is illegal, so I suspect there's no way to realease this as is, without getting into trouble
Too bad Epic literally shelved the one thing that would make this mod have some legal grounds...
rare surge
air dashing and double jumps because after playing eternal shooters feel naked without them
analog pollen
dashing could be smoother i think, but otherwise cool
rare surge
like on the momentum stop or something else
analog pollen
as in it looks more like you teleport forward because of how sudden it is
you should make the speed reduce exponentially after reaching the max distance, that feels much smoother
frosty bone
what is that @rare surge ? It looks neat.
rare surge
game im making called masquerade
frosty bone
sweet
karmic quail
Funny how people criticized UT2004's movement as too floaty and "air based" and yet, here we are, doing double jumps, dodges, dodge jumps, wall dodges and other crazy stuff in Doom, Call of Duty, Titanfall and so many more indie games.
rare surge
in fairness ut2004 was literally quite floaty with the gravity
but yeah people prefer air based movement and verticallity now
karmic quail
Yeah
It's kinda crazy, feels like we are going back more than a decade to revive various game design elements.
coarse token
if the game is fun, fuck all else
deep pulsar
heh
misty sparrow
Nice
unique trellis
apparently doom64 uses C:\Users\User\Saved Games\ to store saves
also it keeps grabbing this image
hazy sorrel
why are my weapon sprites not blurred
wraith beacon
Pretty sure the weapon sprites have no interp on base DOOM 64
keen bear
im unsure what dave has planned honestly lol
unique trellis
Dave does whatever he wants
severe patrol
OWO game jam hosted by new blood?
viscid sandal
Ok so I hate to keep bugging you all about this @tranquil oracle but we've moved over to the default unity renderer with defered and the what not and a new set of problems have cropped up, for one the lighting is still washing out the colors of the textures, but only in game, if I'm in my viewport it looks like it did with how we had it set up in lwrp, (the way I want it to look) and on top of this if I hit play and have it so it stays in my viewports view with the game playing this doesn't happen, its only from the players view that this is a problem.
Also this only happens on my end, nmy bud fireplant just has the ugly lighting in both the viewport and in game
tranquil oracle
my experience with the unity lightmapper is extremely minimal so I'm not really sure what could be causing it
tranquil oracle
have you tried posting on the forums?
viscid sandal
Not to much success.
tranquil oracle
Figures, what board did you post in?
tranquil oracle
Might get more luck in the SRP board under Beta Features
no I mean what board on the unity forum
viscid sandal
Oh... idk
keen bear
is your game set up for linear or gamma color space?
that might be why your viewport differs so much
tranquil oracle
if that was it I'm pretty sure the result would be colour banding
viscid sandal
gamma
keen bear
see gamma is a really shitty default, and its unfortunate unity has it set that way
because it results in REALLY unpredictable results
viscid sandal
I've tried swapping, linear causes the game to look immensely saturated and the lighting to be very dark
keen bear
yeah you would have to remaster things to fit in the linear color space
tranquil oracle
since it only happens from the player perspective it could be camera settings
or a shader
viscid sandal
We tried camera settings, wasn't that and I don't think its a shader since again this is only happening on my end.
keen bear
oh so other people on the project DONT have this issue??
tranquil oracle
Wait so it's not happening on other team members' pcs?
tranquil oracle
Then maybe you have different unity editor preferences set or something
viscid sandal
How would I change that
tranquil oracle
Beats me, I don't know what setting it could be
keen bear
also, what result do you have in an actual build
because editor playback can often vary wildly
viscid sandal
The ugly lighting
tranquil oracle
But to find preferences it's in Edit > Preferences iirc
tranquil oracle
What render mode is your editor viewport in
light settings might be set differently too
viscid sandal
shaded
keen bear
also curious, i see a color related gizmo in that screenshot
possible thats fucking with it?
tranquil oracle
you could try closing unity, delete the library and usersettings folders
then reopen unity
you should get the same results as the other developers then
viscid sandal
where's the user settings folder?
tranquil oracle
same place as the library folder
depending on your unity version it may not exist
it's a 2019 or 2020 thing iirc
you can also try copying the ProjectSettings folder from another team member into your copy
viscid sandal
Aighty I'll see if any of that works
analog pollen
hazy sorrel
another endless mode
unique trellis
endless mode is always a nice bonus
rustic cradle
Ultrakill channel on the NB discord when?
analog pollen
when dave stops being lazy
analog pollen
i'll sign when dave stops being lazy
near mortar
Look he's not lazy
He's just busy downing an entire bottle of malt scotch to chase down the g-fuel flavored cocaine
I keep forgetting that's filtered
It's gonna take at least a week and a half before he exits the coma
analog pollen
i'll keep making features no one asked for in the meanwhile
deep pulsar
@analog pollen y'know what. I'll throw my money at you when the time comes
that's a promise
analog pollen
thanks marisa
near mortar
They're going to throw bundles of cash at you solid enough to cause bodily damage
pelt you with them until you fall over and die
untold hill
crystal kraken
going to be ejecting br coins at hakita with very high velocities
near mortar
A literal bitcoin assassin is going to be killing you
An assassin whom uses bitcoin to assassinate you
misty sparrow
dave 2.0
deep pulsar
:3
viscid sandal
Its still borked I want to die 
outer eagle
aw rip sorry to hear :(
deep pulsar
oh no
unique trellis
Lighting 🅱️roke
surreal rapids
anyone have any idea about weapon sway/bob/jumping animation blend trees in unity?
just when i think i've got it, i don't
desert notch
you could always forgo the animations altogether and just programmatically move the weapons, thats what i ended up doing for any kind of sway that movement is supposed to impose on a players viewmodel
viscid sandal
Its all fixed now thank god 
deep pulsar
procedural weapon bob is very good
though it does help to have some specific "idle" animations for it too
viscid sandal
@unique trellis So for starters my bud had changed the renderer on his end and I recieved his update, the change was registering in game but not in my viewport so I had to go and toggle the change in my own player camera in order for it to change in my viewport. The ugly lighting was actually specularity that couldn't be modified by the standard shader, and instead we had to use the standard specularity shader and change the specularity to black.
Because for some reason the shaders do not just give you an option to turn specularity off... which is dumb...
unique trellis
I think there's a shader just called lit something
viscid sandal
Not sure but either way the issue is fixed now, we can use more lights, and I can stop screaming into the void
deep pulsar
it's lit™
viscid sandal
In other news c2l1 is done, not in engine yet so the lighting and visual effects aren't quiet as good but.
unique trellis
Nice dude
viscid sandal
thank ya, this is the first time I've realy done proper justice to an outdoor environment and its been kind of a pain to wrap my head around it.
analog pollen
looks cool
viscid sandal
thank ya
wraith beacon
Did a little bit of tweaking to Type To Reload.
near mortar
Good tweak
wraith beacon
I'm not going to actually keep the gore but the Wilhelm scream will definitely appear as like a 1 in 100 chance or something.
outer eagle
Nice
timber vault
Oh this is very nice.
robust ridge
So, i've been silent these past weeks because someone stole the internet cables and the public cybers closed down because you know what.
I've been working on a doosk update and even the trailer will be up, as it was programmed earlier. Unfortunately i don't have enough cellphone data to update the mod today as intended.
In a nutshell, yes, the mod is now compatible with heretic, just can't update it today as I would wish.
No joke.
outer eagle
Sorry to hear man, hopefully you'll get cable back up soon looking forward to the next update!
crystal kraken
companies still doing datacaps in the current situation, absolutely disgusting
swift glade
wraith beacon
Good stuff.
weak cargo
NO
crystal kraken
I saw that ♻️ hatsu
wraith beacon
Fine.
robust ridge
Thanks, in the meantime, enjoy the mashup logo i've did (that's what will appear when heretic is loaded instead of doom)
Also, before I forgot, added blistering heat to the mod amongst a bunch of bugfixes i can't talk right now (otherwise the chat would be filled with patch notes for a patch that didn't came out yet)
misty sparrow
- f r o g g y c h a i r i n d o o m ? *
robust ridge
Welp, the heretic update trailer was made public as planned, but the mod couldn't be uploaded in time as I hoped.
Sharing the video to show it now works with heretic, but can't update it right now for reasons stated before.
unique trellis
thought this was an april joke when I just saw the thumbnail
deep pulsar
good
vestal hamlet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7K35FnjHbI Here you go. Not mine but I think this should go here 🙂
humble herald
A mere week later and doom is running on it
unique trellis
wow he ported a source 1 map to source 2
unique trellis
severe patrol
that shit looks neat
timber vault
Hey so trenchboom is scrunching up the Key Value Pairs like this
Trying to post it but it's not showing up.
wraith beacon
Been doing the Microsoft Paint game jam and this is what I have so far.
No idea where I'm going to go with it.
outer eagle
Whoa
wraith beacon
Theme was Tableau I.
So I decided, rocket flying around grid with red cubes.
Procedurally generated.
keen bear
Chromatic Aberration
wraith beacon
Oh yeah forgot about that.
May or may not add that.
Also I'm thinking about making the rocket just a low res 3D model with MS paint textures instead of a billboarded sprite.
Just because making the sprite billboards is a pain.
keen bear
makes sense
weak root
analog pollen
love how these maps look, it's very inspiring
misty sparrow
dont 4get van's whacky meat shit https://twitter.com/CyberUnknown_/status/1227731418253537280?s=20
hazy sorrel
meat
coarse token
nice to see I won't ever run out of wads to play on DOOM
near mortar
Did you ever have any concerns about that at all?
coarse token
in terms of megawads yes
near mortar
Nah you were wrong 
coarse token
you underestimate my ability to play through doom wads
near mortar
No I don't
You underestimate a 25 year old modding community that has an incredibly intuitive and versatile set of mapping tools
deep pulsar
m e a t
near mortar
Meatport
outer eagle
Getting there! really like the look and layout
rustic holly
Thank you! It just needs a shit ton of polish and some detailing!
wraith beacon
I still have no idea what I'm doing.
You still just kinda fly around, now with a gun and some particle effects.
wraith beacon
Where's it going? I don't know.
keen bear
love it
wraith beacon
robust ridge
Doosk: Heretic update available now!
(Sorry for the unexpected delay, some things beyond my control happened days before the intended upload date, which messed up the upload schedule)
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doosk-aka-dusk-weapons-rip/downloads/doosk-public-version
Also, optional 360p sprites are available, in case you want to improve weapons sprites resolutions =P
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doosk-aka-dusk-weapons-rip/downloads/doosk-optional-360p-sprites
hazy sorrel
The City of Damned if it was vanilla weapon compatible
rustic cradle
So it comes with weapon mods which cause issues with doosk?
hazy sorrel
Ye
rustic cradle
aw
hazy sorrel
Awesome map but it has own weapons and playerclass
Just download Compendium, Momento Mori 2 and Neo Doom Vaccinated Edition are worth the shot in Compendium
robust ridge
I personally liked the "whispers of satan" megawad.
Also played the mod with doom 64 retribution, a mod that decently ported doom 64 on gzdoom, but that mod wasn't vanilla compatible, so i had to modify the playerclass and weapons from that mod to make it work.
hazy sorrel
i should make TCOD vanilla compatible
possibly it will unbalanced but at least you will be able to run it with mods
robust ridge
Also, fun fact for those who are curious: the mod currently includes 4 unfinished maps with dev textures inside "customfiles" folder.
To play with them just type in console:
Map testX, where x is a number between 1 to 4. They were designed with vanilla gameplay in mind, but they work quite well on doosk.
hazy sorrel
I hope doosk dosent have oblige generated map campaign shoved into it
and whole setup with cfgs bats folders and execs
near mortar
I mean that's my biggest complaint with it right now anyways is that it has a bunch of stuff it doesn't really need
I'm cool with the pk3s and a bat or two for it depending on if it's just for GZDoom or has Zandronum capability
but it's somewhat confusing to have like an entire installation of GZDoom and stuff in there with it
If you added an entire oblige installation as well that'd legitimately start to enter meme-tier territory
hazy sorrel
If its for custom build of source port thats totally fine
Otherwise make it a secondary download for newcomers
Or include only readme with instructions
outer eagle
DOOSK is real fun in Heretic, great stuff @robust ridge
robust ridge
I'm evaluating adding an alternate download with files only for those who don't know how to open the mod with batch files.
For the time being i can't upload such thing, as i have no internet connection and my cellphone keeps crashing all my moddb uploads.
You would be surprised how difficult it was for me to update doosk this week.
humble herald
has anyone been fucking around with the recently released D64 wad file?
Tried running it in GZdoom but gives me a palate error and I have no idea how to change that.
unique trellis
i saw somewhere that gzdoom devs are planning to add support for it
But i might be remembering incorrectly
midnight crow
since i'm back from my hiatus i might as well show what i've been working on recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA-rBUntP3s&list=PLiUY67rFJxdLcnzSKi2Qe5Byq04TplEEF&index=2&t=0s
- dakka dakka dakka dakka *
analog pollen
lookin good
midnight crow
thanks
analog pollen
only thing i'm not really a fan of is the double barrel reload, looks a bit flat to me
midnight crow
yeah it's...
it's not great but it's the best i could do
making it look even like this was hard as balls for me
i even left a little comment in the decorate definition saying //eh - it's good enough, i guess
coarse token
yeah I was gonna say the same thing
never ceases to amaze me how good the doom engine can look, but that shotgun reload
like that one mod that was like understandably confused for being on the half life engine
doom ^
total chaos wad
coarse token
Man, now I'm just thinking about all the other crazy stuff on moddb
games really do need mod support huh, how else do you end up with this kinda thing?
I think I'm gonna go play call of chernobyl now lol
coarse token
Ah yeah, but it doesn't have mods for s.t.a.l.k.e.r.
midnight crow
also
in this little project of mine there's a little dusk easter egg on that map i recorded that clip on lol
midnight crow
oh you can't see it on that vid
but there's a secret and in it i left two little sector sickles, a lit cigar, two shotguns and a supershotgun 
hopefully people get it when they see it
midnight crow
there is
there's one room with floor tiles and some of them are rekt
and there's one place when they form a 
coarse token
multiple dusk easter eggs then- what other things are you hiding
what's the mod called and is it released
midnight crow
it's called IHNI and this version is not released... yet
you can find a build from 2017 but it's just 6 janky ass maps made with stock doom 2 textures
i don't recommend playing that one tbh - i was pretty fresh to this whole thing back then and that think is janky as fuck
coarse token
gzdoom supports full 3d mapping right
or is that a myth and a bunch of modder tricks I've been shown
midnight crow
kinda?
it's like... it's all still sector based - as in - you're basically drawing shapes from a top down view and there's technically only one ceiling and one floor
but you can do some light 3d stuff with stacked sectors and portals and such
coarse token
Then you'll have quite the playground to mod with I suppose- You've made serious progress since 2017's pure doom 2 textures
Looking forward to release, I'm gonna play some HR2 now
midnight crow
thanks mate 
hazy sorrel
gzdoom supports full 3d mapping right