hakita what textures sizes do you use and poly cap?
#general-modding
unique trellis
analog pollen
dont use any specific limits, i just go with what feels best for each individual instance
except for environmental textures which are all 32x32
for the sake of consistency
unique trellis
looks awesome
analog pollen
cheers
wraith beacon
Kart dog
coarse token
oh my God it's adorable
brazen copper
fleet junco
sharp vortex
@olive dove Mostly the vertices just wiggling around. I've tried a few of the 'free' shaders posted, and all they seem to do it make the texture skew and very heavily distort based on how close you are, which is like a very exaggerated caricature of the psx style.
wraith beacon
It's not actually Roxy, it's based off of my Doggo.
near mortar
Roxy-like
wraith beacon
Wouldn't say he looks like Roxy but okay
near mortar
Ah it's hard to see the floppy ears in the original image
wraith beacon
Yeah I know.
weak cargo
wraith beacon
Nah it's
spring carbon
your doggo is a roxy
but brownier, thinner and fluffier
let's call all dogs roxies in the server
long jetty
Should have alt skins for cart dog so you have your doggo, Roxy, and the one from the game
spring carbon
nah man
slap dave's face on it for the last one
since all he does is idle as a cart hotdog
hazy sorrel
nimble socket
that kart dog is cute, shame the poor guy has no limbs :c
spring carbon
animal aboos
wraith beacon
tranquil oracle
based
wraith beacon
Oh
spring carbon
why is that cart doggo fuming
crystal kraken
@wraith beacon fuck offfff I love that cart dog
near mortar
The cart dog is powered by its farts
autumn portal
faint thistle
eternal nacelle
It's just like undertale!!
faint thistle
😮
hazy sorrel
is this asteroids reskin or made from ground up
faint thistle
It's Asteroids written from the ground up using a tutorial.
analog pollen
mm i like tonal shifts https://youtu.be/jl3YC_mCjo4
unique trellis
ah hell ye
analog pollen
music stays off for the rest of the level too so all you're gonna be listening to are the sounds of burning, gunshots and heavy breathing
robust ridge
Speedmap i've did on august (5 maps in one week).
A friend of mine had issues completing each level, wanted to show him that they were possible.
I had to do easier settings later. (there's some speedrun trick, you can do the map in less than 1:15)
unique trellis
@robust ridge seems like a cool layout
honestly, the gameplay seems too easy and kind of tedious
for example, the pinkies pose zero threat to the player.
using a singular Baron or Arachnotron in a big open room basically renders them harmless, too
you should try using more hitscanners (in this case I'd recommend placing them in a higher ground than the player) and imps to take space in the room
to have the player prioritize enemies and dodge projectiles simultaneously
but that layout seems simple and very cool
also could you send me the texture pack you were using? I never tried out one of these but they seem useful
novel lichen
Hot Take: H-Doom is boring and meh
hazy sorrel
what
rotund temple
sharp vortex
@analog pollen Vinny from Vinesauce is playing Ultrakill Prelude
everyone's digging it, and it looks fucking awesome I gotta say
sharp vortex
I was like "wait, this looks familiar" and then I came back here and realized it was Hakita lmao
sharp vortex
he made a big john reference, now I am complete
analog pollen
that's fuckin nuts
analog pollen
i prefer to keep immersion breaking references to a minimum but i'll sneak something in somewhere
unique trellis
Hakita puts big john in as a secret when
marble crypt
pls no
analog pollen
yes
hazy sorrel
conga dancing big johns and dabbing at once pls
unique trellis
oh god
topaz breach
hakita puta jeff from maximum action in as a secret when
near mortar
Can-can dancing big johns that are also dabbing more like
Which character in Maximum Action is Jeff?
Is that the name of the hospital boss
topaz breach
the player
unique trellis
Nah his name is "Player"
topaz breach
take it from me
new blood staff member and maximum action logo designer
his name is jeff
unique trellis
ur jeff
topaz breach
no im gilby
slender knoll
suck it gary
unique trellis
ur baby
wraith beacon
Gilby more like Golbo
topaz breach
people who call him Michael Action? More like clowns
wraith beacon
I take pride in being a clown
unique trellis
Hey Clown Hatsu
spring carbon
🤡
unique trellis
When are we getting that newblood cart public beta
slender knoll
hatsu is proceeding by new blood protocol
delay it by a week every time someone asks about it
wraith beacon
Nah I like a good deadline.
New Blood Kart will come out in some form in March of 2020
slender knoll
nice
unique trellis
Nice
wraith beacon
March 69th
brazen copper
Michael Action
spring carbon
Mike All Action
brazen copper
Exactly. And wouldn't you say all is a synonym for max? Michael Action confirmed.
spring carbon
Michael "All Max" Action
brazen copper
🙏
unique trellis
Michael All Action Max
unique trellis
I mostly posted it in case anyone needed some topdown objects or terrain textures
severe patrol
random question but im wondering does anyone have any tips on how to make the player stick to the level surface, like being able to walk around on a sphere without falling off type of stick?
unique trellis
do a raycast down, then get the normal of the face you hit and set your gravity direction to the opposite of that?
also rotate the player
@severe patrol
outer eagle
Ayy I've been using that Jakob
Oh wait not that one
looks too cartoony for my tastes
but there's some really good resources
should share some of my maps
unique trellis
I mean you could grab the nearest "planet" and then rotate the player around it
robust ridge
Second map i've did for the mapping week challenge.
Map is doable and can be speedrunned in less than 2 minutes, but i'm evaluating to add more ammo 'cause of few unpredictable archviles and overusage of berserk and monster infighting to save ammo.
severe patrol
thanks for the tips, ill have to look into it
wraith beacon
Societyman from the hit game Fingerbones
misty sparrow
Aw
misty sparrow
I thought it said “frick” on the gun
unique trellis
man that gamer looks like it has really risen
young sapphire
honc
unique trellis
Hit them with the Honk
drowsy escarp
wraith beacon
Reworking the kart physics
analog pollen
looks much nicer now
prisma basalt
needs more drifting
and eurobeat
coarse token
what is eurobeat even
the only instance of eurobeat I know of is "Discord" or whatever the my little pony remix thing is.
TLT makes some good music
prisma basalt
analog pollen
prisma basalt
unique trellis
I have not heard this kind of music for at least a decade
prisma basalt
you cant drift and not have this music. its internet law
unique trellis
I trust you
coarse token
anime intro music = eurobeat
reef heart
eurobeat is primarily an initial d thing as far as anime goes
prisma basalt
and DDR
tranquil oracle
https://apps.mod.io/unity-plugin
Note that this isn't a plugin for mod support itself, but rather for supporting something akin to the Steam Workshop
The actual mod support etc still has to be done manually
keen bear
^
i looked at that earlier and noted that
does present maybe an interesting way we might be able to support a curated workshop on switch though 🤔
viscid sandal
viscid sandal
Thank ya
spring carbon
unique trellis
🤔
spring carbon
I don't get it
unique trellis
In game map editor
spring carbon
oh i thought there was some punchline to it
unique trellis
scaling
analog pollen
damn son
unique trellis
unique trellis
With science
coarse token
what is this?
coarse token
@unique trellis you made a map editor? is it for DUSK
unique trellis
Is it, Jakob?
keen bear
its an external map editor he made for maximum action
because the one in-game sucks a lot
unique trellis
I mean that specific one isn't for MA cus MA doesn't support scaling
It's actually more of a demo thing I made for the ULTRAKILL guy that I continued working on
Heres the MA map editor download:
https://discordapp.com/channels/240195284695646209/586508141563346945/626091444817625118
analog pollen
it's real cool and definitely makes me think that having a level editor in ULTRAKILL is a viable option
hazy sorrel
yeah someone could make something else than metal corridors with glass and meatgrinders
analog pollen
near mortar
Someone hasn't beaten the demo
hazy sorrel
Someone has beaten the demo
unique trellis
What about the fake sky room!
analog pollen
damn, caught
unique trellis
Tbh I love fake sky walls like that
wraith beacon
Gameing
hazy sorrel
wraith beacon
A man with a butt for a face.
viscid sandal
He's a doughy boy
near mortar
Oh man I can't believe you put Reb into New Blood Kart already
hazy sorrel
thats not douche foss
near mortar
Nah reb's the one that stinks
eternal nacelle
I am the one who stinks
young sapphire
Stinklord
slim thunder
when's DAWN coming out?
hazy sorrel
After DUSK
near mortar
Meaning it's cancelled and unreleased
nimble socket
Nah, the more you ask, the more it gets delayed.
We are currently at "Heat death of the universe"
near mortar
No we're far beyond that point right now
unique trellis
We're in another dimension of waiting for DAWN
hazy sorrel
its beyond Half-Life 3 release date
sharp vortex
when sdk haha lol
unique trellis
When it's uncancelled.
slim thunder
wait it got cancelled?
unique trellis
nah bro we just memeing
near mortar
It was cancelled and then it was released and then it got unreleased so it could be cancelled again
analog pollen
redid ULTRAKILL's enemy juggling physics to make it a bit easier to juggle enemies
robust ridge
Finally, a new trailer for Blorc =P
https://youtu.be/bgrm5yVSHd8
unique trellis
unique trellis
ZMovement 2.2, UT style ground movement and bobbing logic that does not offend your eyes.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4wiMSOM90g
unique trellis
/vr/ included my wad in the news post, nice
eternal nacelle
Virtual reality?
unique trellis
/vr/ is the retro game board for some reason, right?
its not actually virtual reality or something
analog pollen
i think it's supposed to stand for Vidya Retro
astral night
it stands for vrchat
analog pollen
r has to come after v so that it's grouped with the normal v
unique trellis
Vidya games
tired warren
unique trellis
Took more effort than I was expecting but I ported the build engine movement using EDuke's source as a reference.
https://streamable.com/tonwg
@low thicket next ZMovement version will have an actually faithful Build Engine movement as opposed to the approximation I had before
low thicket
please, that would be a godsend
i put the zmovement code in psych and it largely works fine but i have a bug with bobbing where the player is bobbing even when not moving sometimes
possibly because it's based on an older version though
unique trellis
Yes that has been fixed one-two versions ago
And the bobbing looks much better now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4wiMSOM90g
BTW feel free to report bugs if you run into them, I always take care of them as soon as I become aware of them
@low thicket
Did not notice that earlier cause I always play with view bobbing off
unique trellis
Just done with the Ion Fury landing recovery too for all the none of you that asked for it https://streamable.com/10xeo
torpid jay
weak cargo
actually tried zmovement today cos i remembered marisa's unreal/UT mods exist
this shit is 200/10
unique trellis
Glad to hear that.
I am not saying this to brag but last time i triex marisa's mod it did not have wall jumping, so i am proud i managed to code that.
If this statement is wrong feel free to correct me
weak cargo
as far as i could tell that's right, i made it work with your stuff anyways since i didn't feel the builtin ut movement was very accurate
unique trellis
I skimmed through it real quick and I recognized parts of the same UT code I used.
I believe her rendition is based on the original UT, I used UT4 just because the source is easily accessible on GitHub
unique trellis
Shake it baby, both on the ground and in the air.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65095
@low thicket there is a BuildPlayer.txt inside the pk3, you can plug that into your mod.
If you run into issues let me know, I will address them asap
low thicket
awesome, i'll get to that soon
working on some new weapon sprites for psych so i'm still a little busy with that
footage of the mod should be out soon, planning on making a big update video for my channel that has a bunch of cool stuff
unique trellis
indigo inlet
i want to learn about how to make the application because i didn't know how to it can help me please???
coarse token
This isn't the place to learn. People will help you with making said applications, sharing the content and what not, but if you want to learn how to in general, this is not a good place to start.
indigo inlet
from where if i want to learn ??
coarse token
Learn about what, specifically
indigo inlet
because i have project i want to do my about the application ??
coarse token
Yes, but like, you have to be specific about this kind of thing. Are you a programmer? what language of code, are you even a programmer?
indigo inlet
software , also php
prisma basalt
i got a feeling we're talking through a google translate barrier here
@indigo inlet consider youtube tutorials
coarse token
Ironically I think that's what he needs to use. Google it.
There's lots of classes out there for design and development
I can't speak to specifics though since I don't know PHP
indigo inlet
ok
unique trellis
Tree time
keen bear
whoa thats a big leak
dusky tinsel
https://twitter.com/Akselmo/status/1179726616089563137 been working on new fps project because i wanted to do something dark for halloween
unique trellis
They Spin
dusky tinsel
spinnybois
unique trellis
need some kinda feedback that you actually picked something up
like screenflash or somethin
analog pollen
i like the movement already
dusky tinsel
thank you
it has bhop and crouch slide
no walljumping in this like in ironscale, this is more a practice run for making final version of ironscale eventually
also trying to keep the scope super small in this game
analog pollen
no idea what ironscale is
analog pollen
havent been here a long time so i missed it
analog pollen
movement looks nice in that as well but everything else could use work
dusky tinsel
yea it was slapped together in a month, that's my excuse 😄
was a project for university
analog pollen
something pretty simple that would help with flow would be to add some inertia to your guns so they're not completely static on the screen when idling
unique trellis
👏 put your weapons in the middle of the screen 👏
analog pollen
i prefer em on the side but gave the option for centered weapons in ULTRAKILL
unique trellis
Put some bobbing on them
analog pollen
that too
unique trellis
Gimme some knock back when you fire
dusky tinsel
ye i plan to add inertia and ofc knockback
and maybe centering toggle
its all still very wip
unique trellis
Bobbing is pretty easy
Bob.X = 1.5f * RangeX * cos(Angle);
Bob.Y = RangeY * sin(2.f * Angle);
This is the UT2004 bobbing, make Angle a value that increases when you have horizontal momentum, and make range proportional to the speed you are going.
So at low speeds it bobs less
I mean centered weapons is really a style choice, I just think it looks better if you don't have any hands
wraith beacon
Personally I want to see a game where the weapon is held with the left hand but is on the right of the screen.
dusky tinsel
@unique trellis interesting, thank you!
wraith beacon
It's stoopid but I think it'd be fun.
unique trellis
Your torso is upsidedown
keen bear
you can do that in maximum action
hazy sorrel
you can do that with pistol sprite in doom
gusty flame
"A game where the weapon is held with the left hand but is on the right of the screen"
So, Counter Strike?
near mortar
I too would like to have my arm take up a third of the screen
shell hound
Hey guys, if you've got some time, wanna give me some feedback on a project I've got?
unique trellis
It's better to just post it, if somebody will have time and interest they will
shell hound
Awesome, thanks Ivory!
unique trellis
Nobody is going to say "yeah sure" without knowing what it is about
shell hound
Presenting: Loopy Lore, a co-op storytelling card RPG with zero math where friends build worlds and tell tales. Print & Play and Tabletop Simulator mod available here:
unique trellis
zero math
bruh u lost me
shell hound
It's a more casual role-playing experience. It's supposed to be about having fun telling stories with your friends and family
near mortar
It doesn't look like a roleplaying game to me it looks like a person picks up a card and starts describing something with a basic idea of what it is on the card helping them along, sort of like a writing cue
At least that's what the way it's explained in the description sounds like
And then another player can interject with a plot twist card to throw the person talking off their groove basically
So it's less a tabletop RPG and more like having to improv a storyline on the spot with everyone taking a turn as the narrator
shell hound
Good catch there, Fossethster. It is pretty much an improv game, but I think TTRPGs are all improv games with math in the end. The only reason we're not calling it an improv game is because folks get turned away by it.
Heck, even "storytelling" is still a grey term in tabletop.
near mortar
I dunno I think you give people a rather incorrect impression of what the game is by saying that it's "like D&D meets Cards Against Humanity!"
shell hound
The role-playing part is that you can describe what your character does with that card. "I'm a ninja with a donut addiction and I..." flip Flirt card "Sneak into a bakery by Flirting with the guards standing at the front and yada-yada-yada"
near mortar
I think the idea could actually be a good one given that the rules state you can tell the story in a way that you wish, and given that you have other friends and family members participating it could lead to a fun chaotic mess of a storyline that could produce in-jokes and whatnot between everyone who plays in a similar way to D&D
but I think that it doesn't really count as an RPG
When most people think of an RPG one of the big things is they think of some kind of progression system, levelling a character in some fashion, etc.
I also don't think that really counts as much as roleplaying, your character in that instance still has to in some way flirt in the situation given
It's more a matter of how you go about performing the action of flirting
I don't think you should be afraid of people being turned away by it being an improv type of game, at least not to the point that you make it confusing to people trying to figure out what the game is
I had to figure that it was an improv game out by looking over the description of the way the game was played and the images a few times and piecing it together
shell hound
It's a difficult one, because Improv is also a loaded term that instills a certain image in the players' heads. They imagine it's a game for people who are good at it, who have a natural inclination for acting and entertainment, and that couldn't be further from the truth of the game itself.
near mortar
I mean if I was looking at games and you had marketed this as an improvisational storytelling game where each player takes turns as the narrator I would actually be much more interested in it than "a co-op storytelling card RPG with zero math"
I don't think "oh I need to be a really good storyteller to play this game" when I hear the word improvisational all I think is "you're put on the spot to tell a short bit of story based on a single vague base idea a card gives you, that sounds like it might be fun to play with a group of friends"
or otherwise I simply think that you're put on the spot in some way
rather than that you have to be super good at coming up with something on the spot
In regards to playing the game itself, the way the game is described aside, I think that it might be interesting if playing a plot twist card forced the entire rest of the chapter to be reshuffled, to sort of simulate how a plot twist is meant to change the course of a story drastically
it would make playing the card a bit more interesting without being too much of a troll on the other players
plus that's something you could put into the rulebook without having to modify the cards or decks in any way
shell hound
Hmmm interesting, but I don't see how it'd make much of a difference. Players can choose any card in the chapter to flip and all cards are already placed down without looking, so it doesn't seem to have much of an impact?
It'd be something if I knew the card I was about to flip and then suddenly, oh-oh, now it's been changed.
near mortar
Ah, in that case that's simply not mentioned in the description of the game there
I was under the assumption that because there were 5 players max and there were 5 story tiles per chapter that each player takes a turn flipping a card in order from left to right
shell hound
Yeah, I don't want to explain the entire game in the store page. That's what the manual is for. I only write in enough to give an idea of how to play. There are mechanics I don't explain because it'd be going into the minute detail of things, like how Plot Twists pause the timer or how you can reuse flipped cards.
near mortar
Not knowing what the card is going to say would still work in that situation as then you might be preparing to explain a character because a role card is on your turn, when a plot twist suddenly changes it to an action card instead
shell hound
But Plot Twists have content itself.
Say an action is "Shoot". During my turn, you could play the Plot Twist "Mobbed by Lemurs" from your hand and I've got to incorporate it into the story.
Along with "Shoot"
near mortar
Perhaps it could be an alternative option for a player using a plot twist card then, instead of messing with the story by directly adding something they could use the plot twist card to reshuffle the cards
if they think it would have a more entertaining outcome than whatever the card presents at that part of the story for instance
shell hound
Not sure it'd have as huge an impact as you're thinking, since the decks are all put aside once players start telling the story. I'd recommend you read the manual to get a feel for all the mechanics in place for the game.
near mortar
That was just a mistake on my part, I also think I worded it improperly
I meant it as in basically you break the template by shuffling the cards in the current chapter around, but given you can take any card you want that doesn't really matter
shell hound
Yeah, and all cards are hidden. All you know is you're about to flip an action, place or role. But the content is a mystery, so you have to improvise. Hence, all actions, places and roles have equal value to the player.
unique trellis
Did a small optimization on the Build Engine movement and a couple of changes
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65095
shell hound
Oooh that looks pretty dope!
analog pollen
cheers
shell hound
Have you put it up on twitter for Blocktober?
analog pollen
kinda and yes
shell hound
dope
analog pollen
textures are mostly public domain textures that i've edited to make them fit into the visual style
dusky tinsel
wow that looks awesome
analog pollen
cheers
viscid sandal
👌 
hazy sorrel
its not steel corridors and glass
unique trellis
Thanks @analog pollen very cool
misty sparrow
I like the lava
And the use of color
But it needs more color
Ae levels of color
unique trellis
COLOR THEORY
wraith beacon
Roads
dusky tinsel
Cool road
dusky tinsel
❓
topaz breach
it's the riddler
pure mortar
🅱 iddler
unique trellis
I have no idea if other engines do this but changing the material at runtime in unity is apparently easy af
wraith beacon
UE4 has texture swapping but I'm not sure if it does material swapping.
unique trellis
Yeah it changes to a fullbright shader here when you turn it on
wraith beacon
Then again you can set the material in the construction script so maybe that also applies to runtime stuff.
Haven't really tinkered with that sorta thing that much.
unique trellis
What if we kissed in the underground lab 😳
(give the gif some time)
unique trellis
L-lewd!
dusky tinsel
https://twitter.com/Akselmo/status/1180609060367937537 finished doing the weapon models, they're nothing fancy but they should work for this project
dusky tinsel
uhh the fps one or arpg one
i'll just link my filthy profile https://akselmo.itch.io/
unique trellis
uh fug u made castle rodok too
unique trellis
Yeah bro
unique trellis
You workin' on an old-school FPS? It looks good for an early prototype.
I got confused by the weapon colors 😞
dusky tinsel
Yeah I want to make something small and quick
Rip
This new game has random generated levels made out of modules (like Rodok) so it should feel bit different every time you play
I plan to make a lot of different level modules too
Making this will take longer than ironscale did (my older fps), but I don't want this to become super long project either
Trying to keep it in 3 months or so
also thanks, i was surprised myself how much better it looks than ironscale does already, even within just two weeks 😄
i hope to take everything i learn from this to the full version of ironscale (and i hope i have a 3d artist to help me with that)
spring carbon
yes
viscid sandal
neat hare
ok
spring carbon
they stimulate our eardrums
but sounds too loud can damage them
that's a lot of high-definition Pew-tering
I like it!
viscid sandal
There are 2 living guns in viscerafest
neat hare
when a squirrel lands on the wires and causes the campus transformer to explode
viscid sandal
This is the first one you get in the number 7 slot
lel
Anyways the eviscerator which is what these sounds are for is made from the matter of the god yogsothoth and fires blades of blood that ricochet off the environment.
neat hare
so it's the gun that lets you scream "Say hello to Yog-Sothoth and the other elder gods for me" and actually make sense?
viscid sandal
P much
spring carbon
Ah yes
viscid sandal
I mean, viscerafest is very lovecraft
spring carbon
something I have always wanted to do
viscid sandal
The entire plot and the world regularly have lovecrafts work baked into it, its not just a big spooky boss that we throw at the end.
The amount of lore is getting out of hand at this point
Also humans can't really use the eviscerator, because shockingly touching the... flesh? Of an Outer God is not condusive to a healthy life.
spring carbon
:(
spring carbon
A bit
viscid sandal
She was loosely based on... Or I should say the idea of her was loosely based on the dunwich horror.
neat hare
she's human but also has plot armor but only kind of
viscid sandal
her dads a sleeping space deity that if he ever wakes up everybody dies.
neat hare
her dad's cthulu?
viscid sandal
Yes
neat hare
wait
viscid sandal
sister
viscid sandal
When i got to the end of dusk I just went "... oh no..."
Now I have to see if I can pull stephen weyte out of his closet again.
neat hare
wait
did you go "oh no" because you were like "oh god now i have to try to get stephen fucking weyte involved"
viscid sandal
No
neat hare
ah
viscid sandal
Viscerafests ending has some mild similarities to dusks. Not enough that you'd go, "Oh we ripped them off" but they are there.
You don't fight nyarlethotep though.
neat hare
yeah, i think that'd suggest a pressing need to attend family therapy if you did
would family therapy work with elder gods?
viscid sandal
jist sayin
wraith beacon
The thing about game dev is you can always change things.
Nothing is final, you've got flexibility, unless you're on a deadline.
viscid sandal
The similarities have been dumbed down at this point, its not an issue.
Viscerafests ending has been hard to figure out for various reasons, working with lovecrafts source material and trying not to piss all over it is really hard to do, because its so easy to take the lazy route and just be like, eh lets kill a god why not, its not like they're incomprehensibly powerful or anything.
On top of that trying to expand on his ideas whilst still remaining vague and just running with threads and ideas.
wraith beacon
Killing Elder Gods is my favourite thing to do on Wednesdays
viscid sandal
There's alot of effort going into the narrative side of the game.
Which is not to say its a narrative heavy experience, (assuming you're not taking the lore into account) just that I don't want to half ass it.
wraith beacon
Lore and world building are stoopid
viscid sandal
Lel
It's a difficult balance, because there are aspects of the narrative that butt heads and transitioning between the darker and lighter elements of the game isn't exactly the easiest thing to do.
With that said its coming along really nicely and i think you guys will like it.
spring carbon
Well, y'know how many Cyberpunk games and Doom 2016 did it
they left the lore around the map for you to check it out at any time after you picked up any Lore Tablet™
viscid sandal
The games hub has a lorebrary and completing a level unlocks you new lore bits
I'm just talking about the basic plot though
just the barebones essentials involve a tonal transition.
wraith beacon
I just feel that Lore should be more of an after thought rather than the main focus when it comes to narrative
That's just me though.
viscid sandal
@wraith beacon I mean... it is and it isn't, alot of thought has gone into it, but more focus has been put on what the player needs to know
its just what the player "needs" to know isn't much
wraith beacon
Never said your lore was the main focus.
viscid sandal
I know
wraith beacon
Just saying a lot of developers do kinda go down a rabbit hole of deep lore while the surface level plot is dull and tedious.
viscid sandal
My motto for the games narrative is the player knows what Caroline knows, and that's it.
In terms of how we present the information
wraith beacon
My general motto for a lot of games things is make the thing like it's a game, not some other medium.
viscid sandal
Problem with that is there's alot of different kinds of games and alot of different things you can do with games
The plot is there for those who care, the main focus is the gameplay, and it is about 99% of what you'll be experiencing.
wraith beacon
IDK making a game without the primary focus being interaction is kinda like making a movie that's just a black screen with everything being conveyed through audio
viscid sandal
breaking it down to the most basic description, there's a minute long opening cutscene, and sometimes characters will talk to you whilst you're playing through levels.
It's not particularly obnoxious and never robs the player of control.
I mean there's nothing wrong with doing that, wether you like it or not is another thing entirely @wraith beacon
With that said for me the game always comes first
wraith beacon
Maybe I'm just a bit narrow minded but making games that aren't interaction focused is stoopid.
viscid sandal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zJoqCQNZPs The theme song
unique trellis
yeet
coarse token
@unique trellis are you making a horror game?
@viscid sandal and did you compose your own music or nah
unique trellis
Yee bro
analog pollen
awesreek has a composer
viscid sandal
@coarse token michael markie is my composer, he did the music for qcde
coarse token
that soundtrack is lit
coarse token
it sounds hellish and more modern doom like but still remains heavy as the og
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf2t2d1vGEk
for anyone else interested, this guy is good
viscid sandal
Yeah, viscerafests ost will have a blend of synth, metal, oriental, and industrial music.
unique trellis
⚠ LEAKED SDK CODE ⚠
[Entity("func_button")]
class FuncButton : EntityBehaviour{
List<GameObject> targets = new List<GameObject>();
void ProcessEntity(IReadOnlyDictionary<string, EntityValue> pairs, BspScene bsp){
foreach(string name in pairs["target"].ToString().Split(";")){
targets.Add( bsp.GetByTargetName<GameObject>(name) );
}
AddComponent<ActualHoverComponent>().text = "Click me you bastard";
}
void OnPlayerClick(Player ply){
foreach(GameObject gm in targets){
foreach(EntityBehaviour eb in gm.GetComponents<EntityBehaviour>()){
eb.OnTargeted();
}
}
}
}
lmao
coarse token
testing to see if I remember how to make codeblocks
unique trellis
`
3 of those +your text + 3 of those
Hopefully it's the right one I'm on phone rn
coarse token
if(sdkFinished) { delay(); }
tired warren
dude what
there gonna be so many crappy kart games made now lmao
inb4 Slender Kart
long jetty
bruh
astral night
NB kart :)
spring carbon
poor hatsu :(
astral night
:^)
spring carbon
you are a MEAN man, mister!
tired warren
I was kinda considering making a kart racing game but I'm not going to now in anticipation of the influx of beginner Unity kart racers
unique trellis
Make a kart racer in the Touhou games engine to assert absolute dominance
I mean... you could probably do that if you fix the player in the middle and scroll the background
tired warren
You can make almost any game in any engine if you're creative enough
Sometimes it's fun to work around the limitations of an engine.
Didn't the Zero Punctuation guy make a horror game in a visual novel engine or something?
unique trellis
I know a dungeon crawler made in a visual novel engine
unique trellis
give that developer a medal for not making a visual novel in a visual novel engine and actually making a worthwhile game
wraith beacon
Tinkering with some level design stuff in New Blood Kart
wraith beacon
While a bit more time consuming I kinda like making levels in Blender rather than in Unreal.
unique trellis
Make a circle one and setup some checkpoints
unique trellis
First draft of ledge grabbing.
Few things to reinforce code wise but it does work
unique trellis
Thank you
tired warren
So weird how Mirror's Edge singlehandedly changed how games approach movement in first person yet the game itself was just kinda forgotten about
desert notch
the game had good movement mechanics but unfortunately the rest of the game was kind of bland and not very memorable
tired warren
I thought it was super interesting and memorable
They did a good job of building up a visually interesting world
And I like how they contrasted the intense chase scenes with slower puzzle scenes and elevator rides to give you a chance to catch your breath
(although I know the elevators were needed for technical reasons to mask loading screens)
keen bear
bruh, the real reason to remember mirrors edge was that it was one of the earliest commercially successful PhysX games
unique trellis
Spooky scary skeletons
dusky tinsel
shivers down your spine
unique trellis
A bit of view bob would be nice
dusky tinsel
ya i'll add it at some point
unique trellis
Do you need a tip on how to get started?
dusky tinsel
Sure
unique trellis
Give me a sec
This is how I did in for my GZDoom movement mod, different approach may be required for different engines. Language used is ZScript a kinda C looking object oriented language.
The basic idea is that your viewpoint height is the result of the sum of the PosZ position of the player (the lowest Z coordinate of the player's hitbox) + the actual viewheight + the bobbing fluctuation
First to make a good view bob you have to make it proportional to the player speed and that decreases until 0 when player is not on the ground (cause people do not walk in the air), so we require a variable that reflect that
if(!Player.OnGround || Player.OnGround && Jumping) //nobody walks in the air
{
ZMBob--;
ZMBob = max(bNoGravity ? 0.5f : 0.f, ZMBob);
PostLandingBob = True;
}
else
{
if(PostLandingBob)
{
ZMBob += Vel.XY.Length() / MaximumGroundSpeed;
if(ZMBob >= Vel.XY.Length() * player.GetMoveBob()) { PostLandingBob = False; }
}
else
{
ZMBob = Vel.XY.Length() * player.GetMoveBob(); //this way all GetMoveBob() values are meaningful
}
ZMBob = min(MaximumGroundSpeed, ZMBob);
}```
Then apply the multiplier to the bobbing
```c
double defaultviewheight = ViewHeight;
double HeightAngle;
double bob;
HeightAngle = Level.maptime / 20. * 360.;
bob = ZMBob * sin(HeightAngle) * (waterlevel > 1 ? 0.25f : 0.5f);
Then determine the actual point of view, ViewBob is a
player.viewz = pos.Z + player.viewheight + bob```Oh wow, thanks! This is super helpful!
unique trellis
If you are interested later I can show you how to do the thing where after you land from a jump/drop your viewheight lower and then raises again.
Oh bNoGravity == Fly Powerup
dusky tinsel
Alright
analog pollen
you're gonna have to level up your enemies because at the moment fighting them seems like busywork
dusky tinsel
Yeah the guns etc aren't really balanced yet
I run some numbers when I have done all enemy models
tired warren
Okay so I have a game dev question
Yall remember the Barnacles from Half Life, and how they were added as a way to get the player to look up?
Are there any other games that had an enemy type designed to make the player more aware of their environment?
analog pollen
all mimics ever
coarse token
I don't think mimics count
unique trellis
Dead Space 2 had these sacks that could be attached anywhere on map geometry and would shoot explosive if you entered their range without noticing
Made you inspect walls and ceiling carefully
tired warren
unique trellis
Done with coding ledge grab
https://streamable.com/qq0zw
grim kernel
hype dude
neat hare
oh yeah, it's all comin together
wraith beacon
Enemies sorta follow where they're supposed to go now.
prisma basalt
ADVANCED KART AI
long jetty
dang boi this shaping up to be a real kart game
slender knoll
new blood kart hype
unique trellis
tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down
wraith beacon
I still need to make it so you can unflip your car.
unique trellis
Press select to reset
dusk dove
Anyone keeping tabs on moat ttt
tired warren
Is that one of those joke TF2 maps?
near mortar
Well he said TTT so my guess is it's a Gmod map
dusk dove
oh moat is the big TTT server net right now and moat himself did a bunch of cocaine and banned all his staff so now they're making their own moat gg with blackjack and hookers
desert monolith
viscid sandal
@pine carbon hey quick question if you don't mind. How did you go about dealing with standard enemy navigation? So like one issue we're runnung into is that its very easy to trail enemies behind you into a conga line, how did you go about preventing something like that from happening?
pine carbon
Are they projectile enemies or melee enemies?
viscid sandal
Melee enemies I'm somewhat less worried about but all of them yes
pine carbon
Well first of all enem pathing AI should be on a rather slow tick, so they're only updating where they know you are every half second or so. This will keep them from feeling like they're attached to the player like a leech and make it easier for the player to dance around them. Second, for projectile enemies you could try making it so they path to a point nearby the player rather than exactly where the player is (which is what they do in Dusk)
analog pollen
how about pathfinding for flying enemies? i've got some problems with how to handle verticality with navmesh pathfinding
pine carbon
I just used a rough approximation of Doom AI for them
Move toward player, if obstruction is encountered move in a random other direction for a time, then go back to moving toward player
analog pollen
might have to try that out as well then, dont know how well it'll work in ULTRAKILL but it's better (and cheaper) than what i'm doing now
unique trellis
Mhmh mhmh
shell hound
Is anyone good with words?
slender knoll
yes me very good with rusesoft word
slender knoll
afaik you cant
shell hound
shit, I'm gonna get possessed, aren't I? That's what I get for trying to be fancy, I suppose.
slender knoll
unless you have that tool or mode on that allows text and pics be placed on top of each other
shell hound
Now THAT is witchcraft.
shell hound
Always glad to have a laugh, bud
slim flax
what are the best doom 2 megawads?
unique trellis
That's like asking which are the two best guitarists of all time
near mortar
Scythe 2 and Scythe 2
unique trellis
visual studio starting to act up so guess its time to grab 2019
unique trellis
Buttons!
They workk
Ledge Grabbing and accurate PK movement
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65095
I was expecting that to look hideous
I stand corrected
Not my style but that looks like nicely done work
robust ridge
I'm actually glad it improved a bit
It has potential.
It is also difficult to rip doom 2016 monsters. At least I couldn't achieve it.
shell hound
I had a new idea for a rule set for my co-op storytelling card RPG. Anybody wants to help me playtest or want to give some feedback?
misty sparrow
shell hound
That emote is amazing and cursed. Amazingly cursed? Cursedly amazing?
unique trellis
@shell hound I’m interested is it a vidya game or tabletop?
shell hound
@unique trellis tabletop, but I do have a tabletop sim mod made
unique trellis
so do you have a pdf of the rules?
shell hound
I have a google doc since we're still testing. I can send it to you
unique trellis
he out there making them levels
also are you really gonna use those statues after the boss fight
analog pollen
it's precisely after the boss fight that the statues are the best
because now you know what can happen
it's a question of when and which one
unique trellis
Working on dynamic bones all day so here's what I've managed so far
Finally anime can have bones too
unique trellis
ZMovement 2.4.1 https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65095
Improved Ledge Grabbing and other stuff
tired warren
Hm
unique trellis
Trying to find how to make springs and I'm just finding a bunch of physics bullshit.
Page 2 of google gives me this 👌 very cool very nice
dusky tinsel
WIP but this is supposed to be the starting area
unique trellis
tired warren
Titanfall Doom
unique trellis
man that looks rad as heck
grim kernel
@dusky tinsel man i love the rad crosshair lol
grim kernel
nah man its cool as hell
dusky tinsel
😄
unique trellis
@dusky tinsel your profile picture looks cool, what game/mod did it come from?
dusky tinsel
game made in unity
grim kernel
haha i love it
dusky tinsel
it's about lizardguy templar who kicks ass in hell
grim kernel
super hyped for crusader lizard game
dusky tinsel
i was gonna make it human first but then, because i find lizards cool, i just decided to make it a lizard lol
no its fps
unique trellis
oh ok
unique trellis
lizardman
unique trellis
ye same
grim kernel
put it on youtube
dusky tinsel
i'll record some more gameplay when i got sounds and some basic level stuff done so it looks better
grim kernel
oooh ok
unique trellis
Need to adjust the position of the trail to be always aligned with the player-hook vector but everything else is done https://streamable.com/3x3cz
sharp vortex
well it's not gritty boomer shooter style, but I just finished a new area of my Garry's Mod map
c o l o r s
unique trellis
Boomer Zone 😎
sharp vortex
can't wait to do something dirty looking again tbh
coarse token
Does gmod have VR?
I feel like a lot of the game modes and maps would fit it really well
unique trellis
wraith beacon
Player horse riding
long jetty
Fuckin nice
wraith beacon
I probably said it couldn't be done but look at it now, a player on a horse.
Whoa.
long jetty
Now my question is how do you get said horse
And is there something to distinguish from enemy horses
wraith beacon
Good question. It's basically a Mario mushroom.
unique trellis
oh boi what is jakob up to this time
brazen copper
What if, you could CONTROL the pink cube and make it JUMP ONTO the grey one?! 😱
THAT is a game right there
analog pollen
this project has to be shut down, it's too dangerous to the industry as a whole
misty sparrow
Jakob out here breaking laws
dusky tinsel
unique trellis
Do you make prayers to the elder god in there?
analog pollen
you can if you want to but dont expect anything to answer
unique trellis
Just like in real life, love it!
unique trellis
It swingss https://youtu.be/yuJK4K1Ef50
neat hare
god tier mod
unique trellis
You're too kind
neat hare
grappling hooks make everything better
unique trellis
It will be even better once I make it grapple moving monsters
neat hare
👀
winged shard
currently working on a mockup/test of a source 2 level for steam VR home
hoping to texture it with dusk textures after the modding tools for dusk are released
thinking a bit about what level type i want to do
thinking i may do a small farm area with bookshelves and the PC Desk
hazy sorrel
inb4 titanfall doom
or rather Apex Doom Legends because no one will bother with coding titans
unique trellis
I will not bother coding either
unique trellis
tired warren
Oh! Are you making stuff from Doom Eternal in OG Doom?
unique trellis
No, I just like grappling hooks
I feel pretty confident saying everybody like grappling hooks
I applied the geometry hook behavior I coded to monsters as well
desert notch
i can vouch for liking grappling hooks
unique trellis
You get my "cool" seal of approval
robust ridge
Placeholder sprites for assault rifle.
unique trellis
🇩 🇴 🅾 🇸 🇰
dusk dove
this is super late
but Gmod does have vr
it even has kinect support for some
godforsaken reason
anyway why is Unity giving me errors trying to open the tutorial games
tranquil oracle
which tutorial games and what unity version
and do the tutorial games have a "standard assets" folder in them
tranquil oracle
also could you send a screenshot of the errors?
dusk dove
"failed to load file [appdata filepath with my real name in it] file not found"
tranquil oracle
What's the file path? (with your name removed from it of course)
I think you should be able to just ignore that error, depending on what the file is
dusk dove
its giving me the error then immediately cancelling the download i start
tranquil oracle
Oh so you're installing a tutorial project from the asset store, and then getting the error?
dusk dove
yeah
tranquil oracle
I've never encountered that before
So, the appdata path it's looking for, does the folder at least exist, if not the file?
dusk dove
roaming/unity/asset store-5.x/unity Technologies/sample projects/3d beginner whatever.json
it looks like its failing because its checking for the file im trying to download
before i download it
tranquil oracle
Yeah that's... weird
dusk dove
i created a Sample Projects folder where it should be because that didnt even exist yet
oh unity crashed while i wasnt looking
unique trellis
actually the textures look fine
a bit stretched but passible for an indie project
dusky tinsel
the stretchiness happens because i have the ps1 filters on
i'll have to ask my playtester(s) if they want it off or on
unique trellis
it looks like there is a reflection of the floor texture on one of the walls
he doesn want the ps1 stretchiness
ree
so the texture stretch was intentional
unique trellis
personally i think overstretched textures are kind of disoreinting
to me they look like errors
however i never grew up with the PS1
so I don't really get PS1 nostalgia
analog pollen
wasnt nauseating for most people in ULTRAKILL
for some people it was which is why i have the option to tone it down or disable it
unique trellis
i didn't find the retro filter nauseating
i think retro filters can look nice but i often have trouble focusing on graphical detail and signals
analog pollen
yeah that's definitely a downside
which is why you should allow people to turn it off in your retro inspired games
unique trellis
^^^ yup
ironically i love old looking pixel art and polygonal graphics but I often turn off the filter so i can appreciate the sprites and polygons in all of their glory
analog pollen
for me it depends, but i usually keep the retro stuff on since it helps bring the visual style together
without the PSX stuff ULTRAKILL looks clearer and easier to read but also a lot less moody
unique trellis
When it comes to 2d sprite games i keep the retro filter on because its really more part of the artstyle
but its still nice to have the option
dusk dove
im installing a different unity build to see if the default one is just incompatible
eternal nacelle
Gotta git gud
wraith beacon
mossy topaz
Hey guys, i'm not very informed currently, is dusk modding a thing and if so how would one get started?
wraith beacon
Sorta but it's not officially supported yet but there is an SDK coming soon.
unique trellis
@wraith beacon He be racin!
mossy topaz
I've read posts about the sdk from 2017, is there a release date?
wraith beacon
No
outer eagle
Ye
Getting to grips is a great start even if you're planning to make test maps for mods and stuff
deep pulsar
"post your skyrim ENBs"?
eh, might as well https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/65213/
unique trellis
I don't even use enbs
deep pulsar
I don't even have skyrim anymore
after losing all my data I lost all motivation to reinstall it
marble crypt
Don't know how you could hate ENB when the true gaming experience is depth of field out the ass and bloom with the power of the sun
deep pulsar
MUH SHADERS
gotta shove in all the dof and bloom to hide the shitty world graphics because you put all your budget into 8K titty textures
marble crypt
Yeah that's pretty damn fitting lol
analog pollen
level 1-3 is mostly done now so I made videos of both of its routes
https://youtu.be/MzUomcpNtPc
https://youtu.be/DFojkR7JOFI
unique trellis
Looks like fun
It feels a bit weird that the shells of the shotgun move in the game world with the same velocity of the player after being exected
analog pollen
they're just a part of the gun's animation rather than actual physics objects
unique trellis
I thought so
coarse token
pretty sure that is the more realistic version of a shotgun being expunged
the shell's velocity isn't 0 when it exits the gun
unique trellis
Yes, but if you move forward at the moment of ejection and then move back the shells are supposed to keep moving forward
Not follow you backward
coarse token
ah, yeah, I get that.
analog pollen
problem is those arent the shells being ejected, they're new shells being thrown in the air and then caught with the shotgun to reload, so those cant be physics objects
the previous "shells" are what you shoot out as explosives, the shells in that shotgun are actually just heat sinks that eject excess heat between shots, but the alt fire overheats them and allows you to shoot them out as explosives
tired warren
So, honest question
How would you guys actually implement John Wick style grappling into a first person game?
prisma basalt
i'd have a "take down" button of sorts. you get the enemy to the ground but like the movies you would still have a window to focus on other targets while the enemy is in the hold before you execute. i wouldnt give it any sort of invincibility making it a tactical decision rather than a "do something cool" button
but i would also give enemies the ability to parry it
wraith beacon
Okay so now you can get on a horse.
outer eagle
Victory lap around the corpse of your enemy
wraith beacon
Horse animations aren't complete yet.
But I got the basic mechanics working.
Not sure if I want the horse to handle differently from the player though.
Gamer deving is feeling a little frustrating right now because of how sluggishly UE4 Ed runs on my backup GPU.
unique trellis
@wraith beacon how's the music for the game? d'you make music too?
big boy hatsu is a man of many talents
keen bear
keen bear
unique trellis
scott are you doing genesis stuff again
keen bear
nah just poking through old videos
unique trellis
okey okey
keen bear
tranquil oracle
hazy sorrel
upload it
tranquil oracle
those have all been posted before, they're scott's duskworld test videos
unique trellis
Temple_Mystica.map
👀
tranquil oracle
it's a really early version of the map, the blockout basically
the first versions of it were done in TrenchBroom, then it was imported into Unity and tweaked from there
unique trellis
still no bsp loader release 😢
tranquil oracle
The BSP stuff'll be broken out into a separate library after the SDK source comes out, but anyone's free to rip it out themselves if they want to use it asap
unique trellis
My programing brain while I'm at work: 👑
My programing brain when I'm home: 💩
unique trellis
thats how it is for me too
you have to go full big brain and write everything down
Being able to change rotating speed on other entities
unique trellis
I can’t wait for the bad dusk maps where the audio is crusty and everything is retextured into awful, awful things.
unique trellis
Yes.
We do not judge, but we all agree you are wrong
I don’t know what a terrywad actually is but I meant wads like Gordon Freakman.
wraith beacon
Terrywads are more like this.
unique trellis
A bit of a mix then.
tired warren
@unique trellis Uh is that a violation of the no furry content rule? I know the furry texture only appears at the end
unique trellis
tired warren
oof
wraith beacon
Perfect.
unique trellis
I can't wait for my frames to drop.
deep pulsar
they dropped below 1
wraith beacon
Epic.
hazy sorrel
picture depicts the highest frame count
unique trellis
That is what the movie CUBE should have been really about
unique trellis
Replace them with chaingunners
deep pulsar
you get like... one frame, and that's it
unique trellis
Bam baby check out my plutonia in a box
wraith beacon
What about mega mega spheres though.
near mortar
Load up Project Brutality with it 
unique trellis
22 crashes to get a -10 frames screenshot
humble herald
you know what'
s a fucking pain in the ass
I've been trying to texture this drill bore and not make it look shit for the past two days
unique trellis
Project brutality bad Russian Overkill good
misty sparrow
Project Brutality makes my head spin
Cause there’s like
A zillion branches of it
And a community arguably worse than brutal dooms
And before you say “aren’t they the same?”
They aren’t
trust me
unique trellis
Russian Overkill better
misty sparrow
Yes defo
hazy sorrel
too bad theres no maps/monster replacement for it
unique trellis
Russian Overkill + DoomRL Monsters + Slaughter WADs = Party Time
coarse token
I enjoyed project brutality for a short time but I still prefer the normal brutal doom, and still prefer original doom to that. Project brutality was too over the top, and brutal doom changes the gameplay to something that is less of the original doom and more of its own completely different game
toxic hemlock
more its own completely shit game
coarse token
What makes you say that?
toxic hemlock
how bad it is firstly
deep pulsar
peanut butterality
rare surge
analog pollen
this looks great