amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown

[sharp pawn]

it won't install though

[night ginkgo]

from steam?

steam should just download it regardless, that's weird

[sharp pawn]

I don't know, man

[hollow wolf]

Thanks Roomba

[wheat yarrow]

Some more new Ep4 footage and some new music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCZwDxpOhso

[crystal spruce]

too linear and action focused

also where is the enemy variety

[plain grail]

where is the cover system and regenerating health

i need someone to tell me to stay frosty while i am oscar mike

[plucky isle]

Where are my precious cutscenes?

[sharp pawn]

Why do all the enemies fire projectiles hitscan is a superior technique

[vestal palm]

I partly agree with them. They are right about almost everything said except the weapons in my opinion. Having a bit of variation would be nice, but great classic levels are fine as well. Also, finding the review funny ain't that respectful, is it?

[devout jackal]

That's just the Steam community for you. Honestly Steam reviews aren't taken very seriously in my opinion.

[vestal palm]

You're right. Criticizing negative reviews and finding them funny is rather the sad reality. Just disagree and leave it there, no need to make a joke out of it.

[devout jackal]

I agree, but it'll never change, so I just ignore Steam community opinions for the most part.

[crystal spruce]

It's just one negative review. It's ok lol

[dire briar]

I still need to reply to that review

after I post the episode 4 stuff

im sure he'll come around after more content and stuff is added

[plucky isle]

Episode 4 when

[plain grail]

it's not that the reviews are negative it's that their reasoning is dumb

amid evil does have genuine flaws, a few bugs here and there, bosses that are a bit underwhelming

[dire briar]

I mean he mostly thinks it needs more content now

I mean theyre all valid crits

at least its not some meme review

2/10 needs more water

ill reply after I put up the ep 4 stuff today

[plain grail]

which review are we even talking about

[dire briar]

the one neg review on AE

theres only one

:-p

[plain grail]

oh

yeah i'm reading it now

he has a few valid crits but mostly he's flat out wrong

[dire briar]

shrug

[plain grail]

the trident is definitely not the same as the staff and the whisper's edge is hands-down the most flexible and utilitarian weapon

that should be your official response

DEVELOPER RESPONSE:

🤷

[plucky isle]

DEVELOPER RESPONSE:
🖕

[plain grail]

🔫 🖕

[vestal palm]

It's their opinion, there is no "flat out wrong"

[plain grail]

when he says that the voltride is just an upgraded version of the staff despite their behavior being very different, yes there is

[vestal palm]

It is, it has a much better version of the soul mode and the lack of seeking projectiles is not making any difference.

[crystal spruce]

as i said before it reads more like a "why i don t like the genre" also whats wrong with a little fun no one is insulting the guy

[vestal palm]

He clearly likes the genre if he played the games it's inspired from

[crystal spruce]

and i also think that u use voltride and azure in different situations as their behavior is quite different aswell. And even if the next weapon u get after the staff feels upgraded compared to the first one lol welcome to fps games

[plain grail]

it's not though because it's much longer effective range, is basically hitscan rather than projectile, and has the chain lightning overkill

[crystal spruce]

yeah but stating that the level design is "too linear and action focused" holy fuck man, i got the feel he tried so hard to sound smart and competent that it went down the hill but yeah u got to give him at least credit for writing a review

also the azure got homing shit

[plain grail]

not all opinions are created equal

sometimes they're poorly justified or not rational

sometimes personal taste overshadows any attempt at objective assessment

[crystal spruce]

however i think a lil fun is allright

[plain grail]

everyone has a right to their opinion, but that doesn't mean i have to respect it if it's not well thought-out

and yeah "too linear and action focused" makes the assumption that linear and action focused isn't the entire goddamn point of the retro fps subgenre

that's why we're here

i don't want puzzles and platforming

i want to shoot planets at demons

[crystal spruce]

see that planet?

[plain grail]

he makes other good criticisms with regard to enemy variety in ep3 and such, but the level/weapons points are just not good points

[crystal spruce]

i still can t hop on that enemy variety train in any kind of form

you got more variety in the 3 episodes than in most AAA titles released in the last few years and no one gave a fuck about that

let me introduce you to

Shotgun Dude, AR Dude, Sniper Dude and Tanky LMG Dude

[vestal palm]

It's all opinions and his point is valid for him. There is no thing we can really point to as a valid objective point.

[plain grail]

weapon behavior is

facts

not opinions

in the grammatical sense, objectively correct or incorrect

but w/e

[vestal palm]

It is facts, but whether somebody is going to like or not is subjective. The old weapons are only useful in soul mode, especially number 3 which is op

[plain grail]

er, no, whisper's edge is probably the most versatile weapon in the game and highly situational, azure orb staff is great for when you're getting mobbed and need to keep moving, voltride is great for picking off clusters of enemies

[crystal spruce]

^

[nocturne tapir]

i find that the azure staff is actually pretty great for picking off enemies at distances, especially when forced to keep moving

in such cases, the voltride is difficult to hit consistently with

and it's the only other weapon that's suitable for sniping if the enemy can move around

actually lemme check out the review and see how much i'm tempted to explode into umbrage without giving in to said temptation

ok yeah some of the points aren't entirely thought through if you ask me (which none of you did but look how much i don't care lol)

i agree that people can think what they want but as a (very) budding game designer i take minor umbrage to seeing things being called bad with no real suggestions on how to improve them besides "do it better"

[plain grail]

that commentary is bad

do it better

[nocturne tapir]

NON, for i am a Bad Dude, i do not do better

[versed violet]

Wait did someone actually make their name the slurms mckenzie tag

[hidden dune]

yeah

it's been like this for about 3 weeks now

[versed violet]

I feel like youre the reason its been in my head for ages but i also dont remember seeing it

[hidden dune]

maybe because I don't post here as much as I used to back in November/December?

no offense new blood

but I can only get hyped up for muh retro for so long

well

that is until muh purple AE episode leaks of course

[dire briar]

sooonananana

[hidden dune]

also that dark green one

that one looked cool

[dire briar]

u get sun episode next

[versed violet]

Sun ep best ep

[plucky isle]

SUN is SOON

[wooden aurora]

with the next episode I won't see sun

[hidden dune]

will there be an easter egg where if you shoot the sun 50 times with the planet launcher it turns into Leon's face?

[plucky isle]

lmao

[hidden dune]

hulshult no 😢

[dire briar]

I saw that today LOL

poor andewq

[hidden dune]

how the hell do you listen to this and think it's rough and out-of-place? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AJcGpw1Swo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCZwDxpOhso

[plucky isle]

Quit swallowing the bait, those people are just trolling imo

'cause grafix suxk, musik sux, pixelz suck, no regeneration etc etc

[hidden dune]

dude wrote too many words to be a troll lol

the second coming of boocheus

[plucky isle]

well there are alwasy the ones that can actually flood the forums with such kinda looong posts

[hidden dune]

he thinks if you set "raw mouse input" it makes your mouse sensitivity the same as on your desktop

when has a game EVER done that?

all raw input does is feed your mouse polling info directly into the game iirc

[plucky isle]

can't tell tbh

but I wonder how dafuq people ever complain about such trifle mouse stuff

I mean

It's not NioH at the very launch

[hidden dune]

trackpad > optical mice plebs

[plucky isle]

Touchscreen beats 'em all xD

[nocturne tapir]

heck no, real men use that little joystick nub found on older laptops

[hidden dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FslQ5tnXrjw

if you don't speedrun AE with this

GTFO

[plucky isle]

I speedrun AE with telekinesis

so GTFO

😛

[wooden aurora]

i dont speedrun AE so GTFO

[nocturne tapir]

i speedrun it with my EYES

[plucky isle]

i dont speedrun AE so CSGO

[hidden dune]

i speedrun the AE store page by clicking "back"

[plucky isle]

i speedrun AE by clicking "refund" button

[wooden aurora]

I got AE from a key so I speedrun AE by removing it from my account

[plucky isle]

I didn't get AE at all so GTFO

[wooden aurora]

I dont have a PC so GTFO

[plucky isle]

I wasn't even born so GTFO.

Ahahahaha

fuck

[wooden aurora]

shit

[nocturne tapir]

i speedrun AE so hard it's why you're amid evil and not in front of evil

[plucky isle]

that's soo duumb

A drink game

On NB server

I speedrun AE....

[wooden aurora]

every time someone counters you u take a shot

[plucky isle]

ye

Fuck, today is such an intense day here

[wooden aurora]

how

[nocturne tapir]

there's been more than two messages within the last hour!

[wooden aurora]

lol

[plucky isle]

That Dusk match, update discussing, hunting down the bugs

Just take a look at duel-at-dusk channel

[wooden aurora]

and 100%ing ep1 and 2

[plucky isle]

YES!

That's what makes the most sense

[wooden aurora]

I see what u mean

[night ginkgo]

alright alright what's all this then

[plucky isle]

Oops

[night ginkgo]

heaps of comments lol

someone thought the music was placeholder? jeeze

[plucky isle]

trollin' dudes

[plain grail]

i think that review there is just someone who sucks at listening to music

or is mad that it's not their preferred flavor soundcloud rapper subgenre

[night ginkgo]

ok, replacing ae sountrack with TING GOES SKRAAA

[plain grail]

hulshult needs to rename himself "lil champeezy" or some shit and replace the entire ost with trap-hop and dubstep

but seriously no joke that guy's a moron, this soundtrack is fucking incredible and it suits the visuals and gameplay perfectly

hulshult knows how to use a synthesizer

[night ginkgo]

I fucking love the soundtrack

like seriously it's so good idgi

[devout olive]

literally how could you have better matching music

[plain grail]

i mean it's even trendy right now, synthwave's enjoying a surge in popularity, and while this OST isn't synthwave it sure as fuck has a lot of sound palette overlap

[night ginkgo]

it's not even a genre you can define

because it's varied

[hidden dune]

Like I don't want to keep shitting on this random Steam forums user, but I can actually remember some of Hulshult's tracks after shutting the game off

There's a lot of games where I forget the music as I listen to it

[plain grail]

it's vidya OST

that's the genre

also why don't you want to keep shitting on random steam forums users

it's great fun

[hidden dune]

low-hanging fruit

[night ginkgo]

lmao well everyone's entitled to their opinion

[hidden dune]

some people are just entitled though

[night ginkgo]

however that comment was ruthless: calling it 'placeholder'

[plain grail]

so much so that you can safely discount his opinion

[wheat yarrow]

I mean...can't please everyone and music is terribly subjective...but holy shit...take that into consideration before you write a post haha.

[steel brook]

Not sure what he was expecting

ye olde medieval music with lutes and harps?

runescape midis...

[wheat yarrow]

idk but it's odd that he doesent think it fits. Makes me think he lost out on a childhood of unreal

[night ginkgo]

I'm replacing the entire soundtrack with this one song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV-ypF0L6Xs

sorry andrew

[wheat yarrow]

yeeeeeeeeeeeees

nah just delete the soundtrack and replace it with ASMR videos

lmao

[versed violet]

Imagine just being whispered to and hearing mic scrapes while playing

Would still play tbh

[night ginkgo]

I should make a play list of all the stuff I listened to while making AE

hope you guys like extremely obscure music from the old days

[versed violet]

The old days is anything before 2000 for me

[night ginkgo]

yeah I'm talking 60's/70's

[versed violet]

Ancient times

I dont mind it depending on the genre

AEDEV playlist pls

[dark granite]

Leons probably just a prog nut

[night ginkgo]

nope

I like music

[wheat yarrow]

lol that answer

[dark granite]

LMAO

[wheat yarrow]

Leon likes MUSIC not MATH PROBLEMS

[dark granite]

i mean

shit like genesis

[night ginkgo]

yeah tbh I like prog and fusion jazz etc but only specific artists

[dark granite]

cmon

[night ginkgo]

I think cam is the genesis fan

[dark granite]

yeah he is

me too

[night ginkgo]

I'm not really into them

[dark granite]

fair enough

[wheat yarrow]

but wait

[dark granite]

not for everyone definitely

[wheat yarrow]

music IS math

[dark granite]

NICE

[wheat yarrow]

great movie

also unintentionally funny at times

kind of like falling down

[versed violet]

Falling down is wonderful

[night ginkgo]

yeah great film

was talking about it the other day heh

[crystal spruce]

lol, another expert opinion from steam. The guy probably wanted some power metal cheese or something

andre ith noth epicth enuth

[nocturne tapir]

i like cheesy power metal but i also really like the soundtrack for AE as it is now, it fits super well

not all action games have to have cheesy power metal :v

the thing about AE is that besides the fast paced action segments, it's also very atmospheric, and frankly i think that having metal blaring in the background at all times would clash with the quiet moments

[quasi pier]

yep,metal music dosnt fit AE

[frosty drift]

mhm

an epic score is perfect for AE

[crystal spruce]

Genesis was the first band I liked in mid 80s... Invisible Touch, Land of Confusion

I can't Dance was my first favorite song... I don't know their older stuff but any of it I've listened to is sussudio

[plucky isle]

Can's say I like post-Gabriel era

Too pop-oriented stuff

[crystal spruce]

Abacab

[plucky isle]

My favs will always be Nursery Cryme, foxtrot, Selling.... and Lamb lies...

[crystal spruce]

Lamb lies down is good stuff

[plucky isle]

Sure it is

I mean, part 2 is a bit weird sometimes

but anyway

KICKS ASS

[last lintel]

new favorite nb user

[sharp pawn]

I, uh
I like cavemen smacking sticks and rocks together
don't know any old music

[gloomy pike]

are you guys ever going to release this game uncooked when its finished?

so people can mod it

[plain grail]

i don't think epic would allow that tbh

[gloomy pike]

they wouldnt?

[plain grail]

not sure really, but leon's indicated quite strongly that modding's probably not on the table

[frosty drift]

modding is unlikely but not totally impossible

uncooked builds though? absolutely not

[plain grail]

i mean it's possible

if you guys want to get sued that is

[cursive kestrel]

Epic would allow you to publish an uncooked build, nothing against that

The issue there is that it means releasing the entire game for free

That's not really an option

[frosty drift]

yeah ^

[plain grail]

sure it is

[frosty drift]

it's not a legal issue

[plain grail]

don't be greedy

[cursive kestrel]

hue

[frosty drift]

we gotta still make some money at the end of the day

[plain grail]

make it like star trek, where they've evolved beyond money

get it started now and soon we'll have FTL travel and replicators and holodecks

then the holodeck will malfunction and accidentally create life and/or violate causality

[night ginkgo]

I'm still investigating

For example you can't use uncooked maps with ae

So modders will need to cook

We'll see what happens

[steady thistle]

Put it on the oven and it's done

[plain grail]

no amid evil sashimi

lame

[night ginkgo]

amid memes

so today I've made it so you can scale the HUD size, and also make the screen flashes less intense

I know that was requested by some peeps

wew

[gentle zealot]

yay! \o/

[plain grail]

the flashes got a bit much when you're grabbing a whole line of mana/blood yeah

any idea how the update will be ready?

[night ginkgo]

when almighty god approves

i.e. dave

[plain grail]

I was going to say there's no :DaveApproved: but then I saw

that's more his style anyway

🔫

[gentle zealot]

[plain grail]

oh i see

it doesn't need dave to be specified

that's how important he is

[gentle zealot]

yeah dude

[gentle zealot]

shiny

[plucky isle]

Fuck

CONFUZION

[crystal spruce]

hey is there any restart command in amid evil like in dusk?

[vestal palm]

not currently iirc

[night ginkgo]

What do you want to restart?

You can always load an auto save if you want to start the level again

If you want to play every level starting with just the axe, enable warrior mode in the game options

[crystal spruce]

as in restart the level, and yeah i could do that but the ability to quickly restart a level without it having to be a load is a nice option, even if its not a very nice bind like in Dusk i would love to see it in the esc menu as a one click restart current level

[night ginkgo]

Right, I getcha

Might not be enough room in the menu lol

[sand lintel]

easiest way for me to restart levels is to just explode and respawn but im pretty sure that still forces axe start

[night ginkgo]

Yeah it does^ (aesplode)

[crystal spruce]

yeah, so far i have just been killing myself

[sand lintel]

i think it could benefit to work like dusks does, if you do implement an option, where it reloads the map with what you came in with instead

[crystal spruce]

hitting a button would be very niceu tho

would love long time

[night ginkgo]

I'll see what I can do

[gloomy pike]

@night ginkgo sorry about asking you to release the game uncooked I didn’t understand that it would mean the game would be free

[proper oxide]

It's not okay. You have to leave

[gloomy pike]

I’m not tech/code savvy

[dark granite]

hes kidding

lol

[gloomy pike]

Yeah

[plain grail]

he's not kidding, leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out

it's a very heavy door, please be careful

we don't want you to get hurt

as a matter of fact we should have someone hold the door open for you

hold on just stay here for a bit while we find someone

[vocal ingot]

where are you even going with this bit

because it doesn't look like the answer is anywhere

[plain grail]

it is a mystery 👻

[dire briar]

Paging Hold The Door

[plain grail]

update when

dave please go like this

so i can get my hands on that new build

[dire briar]

Was playing it with Leon last night

Should have it ready for community testing this week

Release probably next week

It's gooood

Really just level balance and flow changes left

Minor stuff

Enemy placement etc

Encounters

Making @wheat yarrow add more buttrock

[devout jackal]

[wheat yarrow]

begins to cry

oh nice! This emote is back

[plain grail]

i seriously think you should do some original composing instead of just paid work

your synths are top notch

also do you guys have an inkling of an episode release timeline?

[dire briar]

Like after this one?

Trying for like one Episode per month

[plain grail]

oh wait this update has ep4?

[plucky isle]

PRAISE DAVE

and Leon

[wheat yarrow]

@plain grail I've already been writing for it.

Amid Evil and Dusk opened a lot of creative doors in my head.

[dark granite]

in your heeaaaaaddd

[dire briar]

Stop

[dark granite]

in your heaaaaaaaaaaad

zoooombie

[dire briar]

Stoop

[dark granite]

zooooombie

[plucky isle]

lmao

[plain grail]

i feel like you would do some amazing darksynth given those soundtracks

[woeful saffron]

meme material

[dire briar]

@cursive kestrel

[woeful saffron]

I mean episode 5 music stuff is sounding fire

[tranquil stream]

replace entire AE soundtrack with Zombie

Spend the rest of the budget on licensing the song

[dark granite]

hell yeah

[woeful saffron]

level design will be linear just like all those 'great' triple A games

generic muscular white dude character

OH shit

[plain grail]

chest high walls everywhere

[woeful saffron]

that's Dusk

[muted sable]

^

i regret buying a different game that doesnt even work rather than amid evil, i hate myself for that

[plain grail]

amid evil is a terrible game because there's no one telling me to stay frosty while i am oscar mike

[tranquil stream]

Don't Forget to Reload

[woeful saffron]

Press F to pay respects

F

[plain grail]

to barrel roll press z or r twice

(but that makes you do an aileron roll)

peppy sits on a throne of lies

[muted sable]

is amid evil as good as it looks?

[tranquil stream]

a-meme-evil

[woeful saffron]

Amid Evil is fire

like a burning down expensive mansion

[tranquil stream]

AE is baller

[woeful saffron]

and the fire fighters are on a tea break

[muted sable]

i need it

[plain grail]

have you seriously not played amid evil

[tranquil stream]

(nobody says baller anymore -- I am old people now)

[muted sable]

no, sadly not 😦

[plain grail]

buy it

it is so good

[muted sable]

i got escape from tarkov, i regret it

[plain grail]

why would you do that to yourself

[muted sable]

i dont have

[woeful saffron]

especially with new episode 4 coming out reeeee

[muted sable]

@Fourteen#5279 stupid decisions, but hey, im Big John and now i can sit in duskmatch and hope for someone

[woeful saffron]

I neeed episode 4 so hyped

[proper oxide]

sooooooooooooooooooooon

[woeful saffron]

Indeed. This week??

[proper oxide]

id say within 2 weeks maybe

[muted sable]

inb4 Big John asks for a Amid Evil Key because He is Big John

[proper oxide]

you arent the first big john

and you wont be the last

[muted sable]

Aeughrs in envy

[woeful saffron]

oh boy 2 weeks or so. The wait will be tough but manageable I guesss$$

[sharp pawn]

I had to refund amid evil because it wasn't working
Forgive me, I promise to buy good games with the money

[proper oxide]

wasnt working?

make sure you leave a steam post about what happened

[sharp pawn]

Roight
Probably my terrible hardware more than anything, but I figure I can always buy it again
It's guaranteed $20, but other good games might go on sale before I upgrade

[tall temple]

specs? this is useful info for us

[sharp pawn]

I forget the exact ones
But it's awful
I got it from my old high school

Would've been okay in 2005

[tall temple]

ah i see

[sharp pawn]

Runs FEAR fine, funnily enough

[tall temple]

fear also runs on TI calculators these days

[fathom flame]

So

that corrupted spirit boss

[tall temple]

but i think i get the picture

[fathom flame]

pretty obnoxious

[tall temple]

wouldnt be a good game without that one annoying part

every game has one

[sharp pawn]

Like sonni jim said

[fathom flame]

The Sonniest of the Jims

[woeful saffron]

Favorite boss?

[fathom flame]

I've only done two levels so far

Fought that knight guy in the cathedral level, and now I've got to beat the corrupted spirit in the Mayan level

[woeful saffron]

Mmm gotchu, so there's one more you got to take down.

[dire briar]

corrupted spirit boss rulez

get gud

also hide behind stuff

[woeful saffron]

and don't get caught by its clever tracking

[dire briar]

hes not that clever anyway

[woeful saffron]

Well, once you break the code that is

[versed violet]

Just AEOMG and AEWIZARD ez boss

[dark granite]

i dont get why people aeomg

aeomega is better

pls use that instead

[night ginkgo]

aeheh

win instantly

[dark granite]

well thats no fun

you dont get to play the videogame

[woeful saffron]

Leon you should do a large secret that spans across all 7 of the episodes - end result, AE actually has colour theory

[hidden dune]

AEFUND = gives you $20 back

[woeful saffron]

just to confirm

Also make it an achievement just to piss off completionists

[night ginkgo]

I'll make one area in the game induce seizures

aehospital

[versed violet]

HAEPNO

[night ginkgo]

oh my godddddddddd

[vestal palm]

3rd screen sold me

[versed violet]

I'm very aroused by these images. Just need you to know that

[night ginkgo]

ok we know now

[gentle zealot]

pls tell me

that's a tube you ride

in the like 3rd image

[versed violet]

Looks like a tube you ride

[narrow breach]

only thing to make it better would be water slide IRL

[vestal palm]

yea I hope that's the case, a wind tube.

[dire briar]

wind tubes yes

water slides no

[red ibex]

It's just like my junji ito comics

[vestal palm]

yeeeee

I also hope that you use it extensively through the level, it's a cool gimmick

[dire briar]

the tower is all about jumping and wind tunnels

and flying

and getting killed

[proper oxide]

^

It's like dark souls

Minus everything that makes it like dark souls except the dying part

[vestal palm]

^

If amid evil had the world of dark souls I would explode

I mean the openness of the levels and the verticality

Variety is already there plus the enemies

[night ginkgo]

the levels get more vertical and weird as the game goes on

I mean that entire tower is part of the level

it's hugely vertical

[vestal palm]

I know, but is it as open as THIS

[night ginkgo]

oh yeah that's not really feasable for two people heh

[cinder mist]

thats the dark souls of level design

[vestal palm]

Haha yea, I can't even imagine something like that if the game is coming out this decade.

[night ginkgo]

just found a super early AE screenshot

https://imgur.com/e96NxrX.jpg

[versed violet]

looks pretty current

[night ginkgo]

the axe was pretty much the first thing made

[buoyant phoenix]

What a shame you replaced the normal mapped stick with it.

I really wanted to be the guy who slays evil with a stick

[vestal palm]

Question. Is there any level that takes as much as an ad level would? Like a huge map that takes 40 50 minutes

[buoyant phoenix]

I hope so.

[night ginkgo]

nah

[buoyant phoenix]

What a shame.

[night ginkgo]

it probably wouldn't perform great

that's a long time for a fps map

like I can't think of one that would take that long

[vestal palm]

Wow ue4 is kinda shite then

[night ginkgo]

well it's totally do-able

it would probably require streaming levels and such

which is no big deal

but why bother

it just makes it harder to make

at some point you have to compromise

[buoyant phoenix]

Also will the noclip cheats be introduced with the solar solstice?

[night ginkgo]

uh maybe >_>

I'll try get it working now

heh it's been in the backlog for a while

[vestal palm]

Are there going to be any changes to the other 3 episodes?

[proper oxide]

Hell Revealed 2's final map takes about an hour and a half

[night ginkgo]

no major changes, but we will revist them eventually

[proper oxide]

If doom can do it

[vestal palm]

ok

[proper oxide]

So can you leon

[night ginkgo]

doom mods don't count fuck

[vestal palm]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Engine/LevelStreaming/WorldBrowser

[night ginkgo]

I am intimately familiar with that^

there's only two people working on AE remember, it makes no sense for us to go making massive levels

[vestal palm]

Really cool things you can do. I was worried that newer engines wouldn't be able to do that.

[night ginkgo]

unreal's OK at it

[vestal palm]

Yea, like I said the game needs to come out this decade so it's better for it

[night ginkgo]

I think fortnite and pubg will help make it handle larger maps better

cryengine was amazing at giant levels

[vestal palm]

A well crafted level can be as great as the epic one

[night ginkgo]

well is

I have really gone off open world

same with procedural generation

hand crafted all the way for me

[vestal palm]

I know you're familiar with that, you told me about it :)

[night ginkgo]

heh

I thought you were like suggesting it to me 😛

all good

[vestal palm]

[night ginkgo]

@buoyant phoenix no clip cheat working

will be in ep4 build

[devout olive]

open worlds are just becoming so boring tbh

[buoyant phoenix]

Cool now I'll be able to clip into Ep7's teleporter room and find out what it's called

[night ginkgo]

it's not named

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[buoyant phoenix]

What a shame

[crystal spruce]

AE procedural, open world, rouge like coming up. See that mount.... eh plan.... whatever you can go there

[night ginkgo]

you can visit the planets before you shoot them!

[crystal spruce]

oshit

[winged ibex]

AE 2, now with procedural worlds, see that skybox, you can't go there, but you can dream I guess.

[night ginkgo]

see that blade of grass? you can eat it

[devout olive]

yum

[winged ibex]

See that guy over here, his name is Leon, and he makes good memes, you can shoot planets at him.

[night ginkgo]

see your reflection in your monitor? it's a true visage of desperation and social awkardness

[devout olive]

oh.

[winged ibex]

All enemies have procedurally generated names and personalities.

[night ginkgo]

ae2 with free depression

and anxiety

[devout olive]

please stop leon

[pseudo moss]

if i already have the depression and anxiety can i get a discount on the game

[night ginkgo]

sure

[winged ibex]

Please continue Leon.

[devout olive]

you are giving me shadow warrior 2 flashbacks

[buoyant phoenix]

AE is actually the metaphor for a man whos mind was taken over by depression.

[night ginkgo]

amid bad thoughts

[winged ibex]

Amid Evil is actually a metaphor for memes.

You see, the Amid Evil guy, is a meme.

And you capture the worlds, with memes.

Amid Evil is memes.

[vestal palm]

Here's a bad idea. How about making all levels in an episode 1 single level? I remember e1 well though and don't remember the rest so I just based it off of that

remember, this is a bad idea

[night ginkgo]

well... lol if I remember right they'd all intersect

[vestal palm]

map 1 is a direct elevator to map 2 and the map 2 exit is the entrance to to map 3 and the exit of map 3 is the entrance of map 4

[night ginkgo]

map1 - 2 are connected yeah

but map 3 isn't

[vestal palm]

good to know thanks

[sand lintel]

is there a possibilty to add what difficulty the level was just played in to the end level result screen?

would be nice to help moderation on the speerun.com page when some levels aren't so evident of how many enemies are actually in it

[crystal spruce]

i agree with this, cuz sometimes you forget to tab open the score screen

ALSO put the invulnerable powerup on E3M2 on hard more !!!!

makes it less dope with the planet jumping

[sand lintel]

that level is the dopest for planet jumping haha, by far the best example of it's usefulness in the game

[crystal spruce]

yeah, its a fun powerup that i missed very much when it was not there :(

[night ginkgo]

yeah I'll add difficulty to the level end screen

probably won't be changing that god mode tho, hard is hard mate

[dire briar]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/673130/announcements/detail/1655513946207722739

[zenith socket]

hnnnnngggggg stop the tease

[dire briar]

22 minutes of video
11 screens
6 gifs
And one new track from Andrew Hulshult

[fathom flame]

No not the tease! Ahhh, it's in my eyes!

[zenith socket]

oh nic cage you

[woeful saffron]

The full on strip tease. Argh I need the full on lap dance

[dire briar]

https://twitter.com/IndefatigableNZ/status/991512722612281344

INDEFATIGABLE (@IndefatigableNZ)

WARRIORS!

Behold - your FIRST LOOK at AMID EVIL's Episode 4: The Solar Solstice

https://t.co/WZ6N90hcpJ

Featuring:
22 minutes of video
11 screenshots
6 .gifs
and 1 brand new @AndrewHulshult track \m/

Twitter

dun foirget to like commenz and subscrib

[fathom flame]

Follow for a free Amid Evil themed iPhone X

[versed violet]

Can i fuckin buy one

AEphone X

[final wasp]

more like AIEEEEphone

flee from the apple cult

[fathom flame]

all smartphones are overpriced bullshit anyway

[plain grail]

you can buy a crappy smartphone at target for as cheap as $50

it's only the latest ones that are overpriced

especially iphones because who the fuck pays $1000 for their fucking phone

[fathom flame]

Yeah, I was looking at a Galaxy S9 the other day. Jesus balls the price.

[versed violet]

bought an S8 for $900

[fathom flame]

oof

[versed violet]

I love it though

[fathom flame]

Yeh, I've had a few galaxies, but they've all been hand-me-downs

My mom experimented with apple stuff, got a desk top and an iphone and regretted it ever since

[plain grail]

i bought a oneplus 5 last year for $400 I think?

and only because my oneplus 1 wasn't getting a signal in certain places becuase t-mobile upgraded their network but on a band the op1 didn't have

[hexed obsidian]

You wanna take that to general?

[plain grail]

why would we

#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown-also-smartphones

says it right there

[night ginkgo]

I got a oneplus x

great phone

they should have kept making em imo

[dire briar]

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/991538715515224064

El Oshcuro (@DaveOshry)

AE Epsiode 4 should be ready for QA in the next day or two and ready for the community to test this weekend. https://t.co/KUTKrIkk4g to keep up to date.

Full release very likely for next week \o/ https://t.co/eYuR9bGFNB

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memes

be here this weekend y'all memes

[woeful saffron]

AGARAGFAGaga

hype

dammnit

sleeping is going to be harder

[plain grail]

is there gonna be a beta/alpha/experimental or whatever the hell you're gonna call it branch then?

[night ginkgo]

yes

soon

[plain grail]

[night ginkgo]

I mean see the tweet dave literally just linked above

[plain grail]

yeah, i meant specifically how is that gonna work, just regular opt-in on steam or will we need a key or something?

[night ginkgo]

opt in on steam

[plain grail]

cool

i always liked doing that on subnautica, seeing what cool new stuff was in every other day or so

and how broken it was 😐

[dire briar]

yeah password branch on steam

ezpz

if ur active enough in here you can have it

we're not picky

[plain grail]

only the cool kids get one

[dire briar]

better be like RAT level or above

[plain grail]

no nerds allowed

[dire briar]

no white text name having MFers

[plain grail]

the peasantry

with their having actual lives instead of shitposting on discord all day

[versed violet]

Shitposting on discord is life

[plain grail]

oh god dave's name changed color

the blood moon has risen

now he thirsts for the blood of the innocent

[night ginkgo]

it was close to the community roles in colour

guess that's why it changed

[plain grail]

many thousands will die to sate his hunger for innocent souls

but at least nobody's going to confuse him for a regular user

[versed violet]

Now he's just a dirty admin

[dire briar]

YEAH NOW U CAN ALL SEE

THE GLORIOUS

dont mind me just writing 600 word replies to Steam reviews

https://steamcommunity.com/id/mgdurandal/recommended/673130/

I hope this dude comes back for Ep 4

his crits of the weapons and stuff are just kind of false

but if you dont experiment with them I see how you can think that

especially in Ep 3

we'll probably revisit that episode in terms of enemy variety and behavior

[hexed obsidian]

That's some effort right there. In what world is AE an arena shooter? 🤔

[vocal ingot]

A lot of people use that to just mean any classic fps

[night ginkgo]

I would say arena shooter is more quake3/ut

but that's just me

[vocal ingot]

Because thats what they tend to be in multiplayer

They're wrong mind you, but it's not uncommon

[versed violet]

Rocket league is an arena shooter

[night ginkgo]

heh

it's car soccer

[versed violet]

Shooting goals in an arena

[night ginkgo]

i spose

[versed violet]

If arenas were long and shaped like well thought out levels i suppose AE would be

[pseudo moss]

I'm so glad you dudes take the time to reach out to people and address what they have to say. That's a very good response to that review imo

[keen coral]

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[plain grail]

amid arena

also hordes of evil is technically an arena

where you shoot things

[wheat yarrow]

............

[proper oxide]

[plucky isle]

Music is garbage. Get a new composer.

[plain grail]

https://youtu.be/Xany0qWJvbw?t=4s

[plucky isle]

👌

[outer atlas]

how's controller support in this game? I have shitty wrists and can't play games with mouse and keyboard like I used to.

[crystal spruce]

wow

what happend with ur wrists that u can t play with mouse and keyboard dude

i mean, its not like you working on a heavy bag or something so ur wrists must be really bad dude

[outer atlas]

I was really just asking about the controller support lol, but simply put I had an injury a few years back.

[crystal spruce]

you don t need to answer if you don t want to

[outer atlas]

Obviously using a mouse is not heavy lifting, and I can do most everything else without pain/fatigue, it's just not as fun as it was in the past.

[nocturne tapir]

can relate, my fingers have suffered under the constant stress of a lot of videogames :v

i'll give the controller thing a quick test, see how it works

[outer atlas]

It doesn't have to be perfect implementation, but if I can get through the menus and maybe apply some light aim assist I would be happy.

Sorry if my request offends top tier players.

[crystal spruce]

eh i don t think so

[gentle zealot]

yeah there's controller support

[nocturne tapir]

doesn't seem to work in menus but in game it does

not much tweaking to do though

[outer atlas]

I'll give it a go and see what happens.

[nocturne tapir]

if nothing else, azure staff has homing shots :v

[gentle zealot]

plays nice with the steam controller if you got one of them

[crystal spruce]

just was curious cause with the right mouse and keyboard setup your wrist can stay in a neutral position and its good

[outer atlas]

yeah I've been through a lot of different variations over the years and it's always just meh

[crystal spruce]

i m also curious cause i m working in medicine

orthopedics shit n stuff

especially the shit

[outer atlas]

I see.

I used an Evoluent mouse for a month and it helped at first, but ultimately I still felt pain/fatigue.

[crystal spruce]

did u thought about using a soft brace?

[outer atlas]

Using a track ball subsequently has been my best bet for work.

Haven't used a brace, what are the advantages?

[crystal spruce]

prevents movement which causes pain and fatigue, helps with blood circulation through compression

[nocturne tapir]

also gives you the ability to parry swords unarmed if it has a metal bit

[crystal spruce]

fresh blood is always good for bad joints

[outer atlas]

lol always down to parry

thanks HarT I'll look into it

[crystal spruce]

yeah you can write me a pm if u want a recommendation of products

[nocturne tapir]

but i don't have anyone to sacrifice for fresh blood :C

though admittedly it's my tendons and not my wrist that are a tad fucked

slow going but it seems to be getting better, at least enough for me to play AE without pain :V

[outer atlas]

that's good

I take vitamin B6 for my wrist and I think it helps a little...

maybe

[nocturne tapir]

i was just a dumbass who didn't give his hand(s) proper rest after a round of tenosynovitis and subsequent RSI

o well lol

[outer atlas]

that's rough man

[nocturne tapir]

i'm just glad it was mostly my left hand since i'm right handed for everything that isn't mousing :V

[gentle zealot]

gettin a bit off topic, guys

[nocturne tapir]

...... SUN REALM'S LOOKIN HELLA SWELL and also i'm hyped for it

[quasi pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyAoU4kvtus

polish youtuber Brodaty reviewed AE very positively

[frosty drift]

👍

[plain grail]

kurwa

[dire briar]

next AE patch will have FULL controller support

menus too

[quasi pier]

cool but playing with KB+M is 👌

[dire briar]

MY NAME IS BLEK NOW

[plucky isle]

AE patch when

[dire briar]

I AM SCURRY

[thorn geyser]

Dave pls

[plucky isle]

Dave stop

[dire briar]

BEHOLD

HEY WAIT

[plucky isle]

Yellow El Dave will be always missed

[dire briar]

memes

ok I fix

THE DARK ONE

[plucky isle]

Dank one

[quasi pier]

dark nickname,so edgy

[plucky isle]

@quasi pier Dave is broken. We need a new one

[dire briar]

nou

[plucky isle]

Sure

[devout jackal]

Fucking love that color

[gentle zealot]

i think it's DUMB

[thorn geyser]

I'd leave it, I don't get it confused for fork maiden lol

[devout jackal]

Yeah and it's unique entirely

[plucky isle]

FUK MAIDENZ SHUD BE TURQUOISE

[dire briar]

https://www.wired.com/story/old-school-videogame-style-rebirth/

[crystal spruce]

Getting dark now @dire briar ?

[tall temple]

Dave is trying hard to look different in a server that's run out of unique colors. Terrible state of affairs

[thorn geyser]

Just make everyone a very slightly different shade of red.

[fathom flame]

Make fancy text for Dave's name

[tall temple]

He should be hot pink. We don't use hot pink yet

[fathom flame]

^

[crystal spruce]

^

[thorn geyser]

^

[plucky isle]

Render Dave's nickname in the same color as discord background

[crystal spruce]

^

[plucky isle]

BIG JAHN

[fathom flame]

Dave's name being pink works cos then he can be GURLY MAHN

[plucky isle]

Girly Dave

[outer atlas]

@dire briar thanks for adding full controller support! for me you're making a great game more accessible.

[dire briar]

dont thank me

thank @night ginkgo

[thorn geyser]

[outer atlas]

okay! Thank you Leon! I won't ping you again because I know that can be annoying.

[plucky isle]

Pinged to death

[outer atlas]

Between AE and Dusk, NB has quickly cemented itself as #1 cool guys for me

[thorn geyser]

👏 Don't 👏 @ 👏 me 👏 lurkers 👏

[plucky isle]

@thorn geyser Why?

[outer atlas]

lol

[gentle zealot]

@thorn geyser

[outer atlas]

uh oh

[plucky isle]

Pinged to death (x2)

[thorn geyser]

It won't be so funny when the machines rise up.

[plucky isle]

We'll crush them

Tossing onions at them

[outer atlas]

new amid-evil weapon, onion grenade?

multiple layers of stanky shrapnel

[plucky isle]

Yeah

[gentle zealot]

yo fuck that

[thorn geyser]

Nah fuck you, make it happen leon

[gentle zealot]

shadow warrior sticky bomb but it's crystals

[plucky isle]

Dork Maiden

lmao

New weapon confirmed

[plain grail]

oh shit

i see some new enemies there

[plucky isle]

Onion staff

[plain grail]

spiky crystal ones even

sweet

and... a big metal disk

i hope it does something interesting

[outer atlas]

Amid Onions DLC?

[plucky isle]

Yep

The Onion Realm episode also confirmed

[outer atlas]

I'm not crying happy tears, it's these damn onions.

[plain grail]

oh shit i see a guy that looks like a disciple of d'sparil too

best heretic enemy

[plucky isle]

^

[dire briar]

https://twitter.com/TheNewBloods/status/991754299460927488

New Blood Interactive (@TheNewBloods)

Listen to the soothing sounds of @JakeTheVoice123 as he talks with @AndrewHulshult about creating the OSTs for DUSK and AMID EVIL \m/

https://t.co/PSVJNue9H0

#gamedev #gamemusic #metalAF https://t.co/augKbudCY6

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[bleak kelp]

i feel like you're just begging for people to tag it as anime anyway
fuckin "don't stuff beans up your nose"

[whole ocean]

THE ANIME HAS BEGUN

[plucky isle]

Lmao yeah

[tacit quartz]

don't you worry

anime will be back

[whole ocean]

of course it will

[tacit quartz]

you achieved nothing by removing it

[whole ocean]

i wish hentai was a tag

[bleak kelp]

never underestimate the power of someone dedicated to the craft of shitposting

[plain grail]

brb tagging amid evil as "hentai" "memes" and "avain man 4"

[whole ocean]

we should do nude

[bleak kelp]

let alone a mob of such people

[thorn geyser]

Plus the correct tags if you want to help out, we need the traffic

[bleak kelp]

aye aye.

[wheat yarrow]

No, plz help

Halp!

[gentle zealot]

HLEP

[tacit quartz]

you see... you removed the tags

[pseudo moss]

whats wrong buddy

[crystal spruce]

I did the tags, the right ones ^^

[thorn geyser]

ASSIST

[tacit quartz]

those useless tags were useful after all

[eternal cedar]

dating-sim when

[crystal spruce]

Why do people do the anime thing anyway?

Anime is trash

: /

[thorn geyser]

Not this again

[crystal spruce]

[whole ocean]

bruh animes great

sometimes

[eternal cedar]

lmao it isnt

[bleak kelp]

some people want to watch the world burn.

[whole ocean]

ok

some anime is good

most are trash

[bleak kelp]

i don't know what anime is, i'm just going based on context clues that it's a type of small animal

[thorn geyser]

#bnnuy-and-the-jits

[keen coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240432519990738944/376575896070389770/jackgeneral.png

[whole ocean]

re: zero 👌 goes hand in hand with amid evil

[outer atlas]

🛑

[crystal spruce]

Stooop

[whole ocean]

oof

k

[outer atlas]

listening to the interview with andrew hulshult now and it's interesting to hear his take on the creative process

I love how he refers to AE as "overpowered skyrim"

[nocturne tapir]

Amid Nords

[outer atlas]

though the games are very different, AE also scratches my RUNE itch.

Though that game is pretty jank by today's standards, I still love how you can co-op any level in that game super easily.

Adding co-op to any action game is a great way to add replay value.

But just wielding fat melee weapons is so satisfying.

[dire briar]

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/991773180627857408

El Oshcuro (@DaveOshry)

Hey @ everyone it looks like AMID EVIL was missing some appropriate tags on Steam so if you could please go ADD and + all the proper tags like Retro, Fantasy, FPS, First Person, Single Player, etc!

AND PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP TAGGING ...

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AE was tagged as anime when it launched

and we had to have Valve remove it

and we think thats what fucked up the tags lol

[plain grail]

N-NANI?!

[eternal cedar]

You realize that it'll prolly get tagged to hell with random shit now, right? lmao

[thorn geyser]

I'm so sorry lmao

[dire briar]

I mean as long as it has the proper tags

[dark granite]

as long as it shows up somewhere

lmao

[dire briar]

it was missing stuff like SINGLE PLAYER

FIRST PERSON

[eternal cedar]

lmao

[plucky isle]

#ColorTheory

[dire briar]

those are uhhh important

[eternal cedar]

So you're ok with it being a dating sim as long as it's sp? My man 👌🏿

[plucky isle]

Fuck SP Dave

Let it be just a splash screen lmao

[eternal cedar]

Hope I helped

[dire briar]

lol

WHYYYYYYYYYY

[plain grail]

need to add nudity

[eternal cedar]

Fuck you're right, on it

[pseudo moss]

smh

[plain grail]

those flying eye blobs are shameless in their nakedness

[plucky isle]

EROTIC

[crystal spruce]

HEY IF YOU WANT AMID EVIL 2 DO THE RIGHT TAGS YOU SILLY

[plain grail]

ruined

[plucky isle]

okay

Go 4 ot

😛

[outer atlas]

I did my civic duty and added real tags

like kart racing

[eternal cedar]

Thanks for helping out, @plain grail

[plucky isle]

where's "color" tag

[eternal cedar]

@outer atlas GREAT MINDS MEME ALIKE, FRIEND

[quasi pier]

where is walking simulator tag?

[eternal cedar]

fuck

[nocturne tapir]

where's the indie sandbox tag

also pixel graphics don't forget that

[outer atlas]

xtreme early access

joking aside, I'm looking forward to the NewBlood kart racer or smash bros equivalent.

one day they will have enough characters to make it happen

[plucky isle]

Hunt Down the Freeman PROPER version from New Blood

[nocturne tapir]

Amid Smashing

[plucky isle]

Amidmageddon

[devout olive]

Don't forget to add the tag "dank"

[outer atlas]

oh we Dank Souls now bois

[plucky isle]

Dang Souls

[outer atlas]

Amid Evil: Beyond Dang Souls

It's a retro cinematic experience with punishing difficulty

[plucky isle]

How punishing?

[outer atlas]

Enough to get the juices flowing.

[plucky isle]

soundZ gud

Release date when?

[outer atlas]

[plucky isle]

Soon Souls

[outer atlas]

Unfortunately it's an Oculus Go exclusive.

[plucky isle]

Fuck.

Not fair

[outer atlas]

Life is hard.

[plucky isle]

Life is harder than Amid Evil: Beyond Dang Souls

[outer atlas]

The first walking sim with permadeath.

If you die you have to buy another copy.

[plucky isle]

Holy F

This is insane

[outer atlas]

Okay I should probably take this to #bnnuy-and-the-jits

[plucky isle]

True

[dire briar]

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/991859788064567296

El Oshcuro (@DaveOshry)

Always great to get new @TamaraRyanVO to go with new AMID EVIL content 👍

"WELCOME BACK, CHAMPION" https://t.co/zEQiTR9bmS

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WELOME BACK, BLUE CHAMPION JESTER

[devout jackal]

Love that voice

[plain grail]

is this a teaser for the trailer

[hidden dune]

@ El Oshcuro how much does it cost to have Tamara Ryan say "chur"?

[outer atlas]

I feel welcome already.

[devout olive]

I am sad there are no visual novels being recommended to me from AE anymore

[thorn geyser]

end of an era

[versed violet]

Gotta start anime tagging again

[devout olive]

don't forget to tag as dank

[dire briar]

I forgot NB had a steam group lol

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/NewBloodInteractive

[craggy cypress]

I'm working but amid evil is calling my name............ eck

[plucky isle]

Thx Shill

[plucky isle]

Thx Shill

[vestal palm]

Shill: Your daily fix

[woeful saffron]

Tank yer Shi- I, I mean Avain's Roomba

[versed violet]

Bring back shillboi

[dire briar]

IT IS I

shillboi

[plain grail]

hi shillboi

beta passwords when

[pseudo moss]

robot dave??

[plucky isle]

ShillDave

[night ginkgo]

whoa orange name

[plucky isle]

Yeah

BIG JAHN

[night ginkgo]

apparently I'm a fork maiden

[plucky isle]

wait n' spam a lil' bit and you'll get the orange juice too : D

[plain grail]

you are just as beauiful as the rest of us

also see above

inb4

[winged ibex]

One day I'll be a fork maiden.

Going to take a while though.

[plain grail]

until then you keep the bag on your head

you're not pretty yet

[eternal cedar]

Since I made it, I'll give you a piece of advice

Shitpost hard

[plain grail]

shitpost hard 2: shitpost harder

shitpost hard with a vengeance

[hollow wolf]

Shitpost hard 4.0

[eternal cedar]

shitpost hard 2: electric shitaloo

[plain grail]

shitpost hard: the new, shitty PG-13 one

[hollow wolf]

A good day to shitpost hard

[eternal cedar]

shitp0st ha4d

[winged ibex]

Die hard told entirely through shitposts seems like an interesting idea really.

[eternal cedar]

YipPIe KiyAYI mr Fa1cOn))))))))

[hollow wolf]

Is the fifth movie also gonna repeat the same shitpost twenty times over?

Oh god, I reminded myself about the fifth movie...

Jesus fucking Christ

[eternal cedar]

gg wp lmao

[plain grail]

wait there were five?

i thought there were the first three

and then a shitty sequel/reboot

there was another?

[hollow wolf]

A good day to die hard

Bruce Willis and his shitty son shove someone into the blades of a helicopter multiple times and the same line “I’m on vacation” gets repeated 50 times over

It’s fucking mind numbingly bad

At least die hard 4.0 can be watched and you can have a good laugh with it

[plain grail]

i thought those were the same film lol