Ok first of all. Aeternum is my shit. Purple ghosts suck ass. Big tentacle eyeball motherfucker is hard to kill
#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown
versed violet
hidden dune
ahh, cool, I forgot to try that mode
dark granite
because lunar and solar
versed violet
I love ep 2
versed violet
Suck em innnnn
dark granite
they occlude eachother from the projectile
hidden dune
yeah, i noticed it was a bit finicky
versed violet
Give them all the succ
dark granite
if you shoot it up, it guarantees LOS to the projectile
hidden dune
i thought it did more damage on contact but it doesnt
dark granite
and will kill everything
hidden dune
black holes
dark granite
nah the regular
versed violet
Thought so
versed violet
Oh relly
hidden dune
it sucks
gentle zealot
succ
dark granite
ahhhh i understand the joke
gentle zealot
i'll point your purple
dark granite
but yeah the regular shot is basically better in every way if you get good with it
versed violet
Git gud
hidden dune
the black hole variant can suck in multiple big rock guys though
and leave their loud footsteps looping behind
do the enemies even have names? pls add to codex
dark granite
yeah actually
theyre all basically a Demon variant
those rock dudes are called wall demons
and the big ones i think are wall giants
i forget
plucky isle
Golems anyway 😄
hidden dune
forget the High IQ joke i made
dark granite
armor demons for the little dudes
etc etc
that might just be their entity names though
ask loremaster @night ginkgo if they have a real lore name
plucky isle
Hey we need AE wiki now lol
eternal talon
So i just played around in Hordes of Evil for a bit, can we talk about why that ice mace thing is the funnest weapon in the game? Until i inevitable try all of them anyway
gloomy whale
Hey guys, I found a MAJOR bug where you can bank overcharge inbetween quicksaves and it grants overcharge even when you have an empty meter on a future save. I have been unable to reproduce, but have placed it on the forum.
south shuttle
yeah I reported that bug during the test branch too
plucky isle
Yeah happened once too
hidden dune
lifts also fuck up between quickloads
gloomy whale
Was everyone on the 3rd level?
jade marsh
I sent it to Leon
south shuttle
I noticed it happen in e3m3
gloomy whale
I'm talking the 3rd ever level, so I guess e1m3 the vault of midnight
south shuttle
yeah this is e1m3
hidden dune
happened to me on the E3M1 secret with a lift
lone hatch
Please try and keep mentions of the later episodes and stuff in #422771691849121803 🙏
hidden dune
aeurp
hidden dune
it's a shame UE4 doesn't allow for mods because I was totally planning on making a celestial claw mod where you lob leon and simon's heads instead of planets and instead of explosion sounds, you hear microsoft sam say "chur"
slim heath
how to make mouse look 1:1 for horrizontal and vertical
hidden dune
I have X set to 19 and Y set to 57
feels good
the mouse input and controls in general got a lot better from the pre-alpha to the early access build
slim heath
@hidden dune thank you
hidden dune
uh oh
here comes ramlod
but yeah, i use that for quake 2 and whatnot
ae is king btw
don't ban
slim heath
i use marc c too i cant live with out it
hidden dune
marc c is a betatester fyi, it's on-topic
mark c is the mouse fix guy
who is off-topic, btw E1M1 is still cool fuck the haters
lone hatch
hidden dune
hey im just saying, there's a lot of people ragging on e1 now that e2 and e3 are out
not that i disagree, but e1 is still good
like the first time i saw e1m2, i was blown away
okay
so ramlod approves of hdoomguy posting spoilers but yells at me
lone hatch
Oh yeah
plucky isle
oh fuck
lone hatch
Post it in the #422771691849121803 pls
desert sequoia
OH
hidden dune
CIRCLEJERK AHOY
desert sequoia
okay gimme a sec
lone hatch
nah its just we don't want it to be spoiled for other people
hidden dune
technically
the whole game is a spoiler
since it just came out
btw that pax stream
really cringeworthy in hindsight
desert sequoia
anyways, as for the whole episode 1 thing
i've been enjoying it all the way through so far
i think that like, people liking ep2 and 3 more than 1 is a pretty unique situation and not necessarrily a bad one though
hidden dune
well, they are better
desert sequoia
a lot of games back in the day had this problem of having an emazing ep1
hidden dune
but shitting on e1 is uncalled for
desert sequoia
and a good but not as good 2 and 3
hidden dune
just like a certain other game by new blood
desert sequoia
clearly you fucked up when you didn't make episode 2 12 levels of moonbases
night ginkgo
lmao
desert sequoia
yes, 12 levels
desert sequoia
actually i guess Duke3D was 8 levels, i forget
but fucking
lunar apocalypse
fuck
hidden dune
please discuss duke in #duke3dreloaded thank you--oh wait, that's redacted
desert sequoia
it's not even like it was bad mapping or anything, it was just that reliance on that one textureset for an entire 8-9 level ep lmao
south shuttle
E1 of AE is good but it's overshadowed by the others yeah
desert sequoia
that's not a bad place to be though is where i'm gettin at
night ginkgo
AE is a real build up
desert sequoia
good is good - it gets people involved
night ginkgo
ep7 is wacky
south shuttle
it's all fine in my book
desert sequoia
if later episodes are even better, it keeps people interested
south shuttle
I like games that ramp up and so far every episode was better than the last
hidden dune
@jade marsh would you believe the axe really does come in handy later?
south shuttle
personally I feel like quake is a bit similar, my favorite episode is E3
south shuttle
yes
hidden dune
7 maps of identical looking gray-blue corridors
south shuttle
but E4 goes all out with insanely clever level design (even if the levels themselves are super rough)
ripe cipher
im falling in love with the staff of torment
jade marsh
I liked the levels with all the soldiers
ripe cipher
holy moly
jade marsh
And the first episode
hidden dune
yeah, i'd go as far to call it op since it clearly outclasses the earlier weapons
i honestly thought AE was going to take the Heretic approach and take your weapons away
south shuttle
same
hidden dune
i hope there's an option for that in the final version
E2 is a lot easier when you have a ton of ammo carried over
south shuttle
I thought not having your weapons taken away was a bug
but it seems intentional so eh
desert sequoia
Quake is a great game, it definitely suffers from the 'later episode' issue though
hidden dune
i'm actually considering doing a run where i just suicide at the beginning of each map so i can have proper axe starts
on evil, that would be quite a challenge
jade marsh
Then Quake 2 was just a mess but that's neither here nor there
This is Amid Evil boys
desert sequoia
you know, it'd be easy to bullshit a reason/mode for only the axe to carry over each episode
since like the axe is basically this fancypants interdimensional thing
hollow otter
Barbarian mode
hidden dune
@desert sequoia it's terminator rules and the axe is actually the Champion's big swinging metallic dick
desert sequoia
hahaha yeah, exactly
eternal talon
You made a good game. That is a good thing
plain grail
it's the game i've wanted for several fucking decades
there's that one from the painkiller devs too
i love fantasy fps
i love the ridiculous trappings and frankly i love unique weapons
hollow otter
Between Dusk and Ion Maiden and now AE this is the fucking year
honest dirge
it really is
patent thicket
Don't forget Metal Gear Survive
hollow otter
oh yeah
patent thicket
🎻
honest dirge
that one will get GotD awards
narrow breach
AE is my favorite FPS of the 21st century
everything else is crap (okay, Doom 2016 and DUSK are dope)
hidden shell
No love for STALKER?
narrow breach
actually never played either
rough oasis
FEAR... good times
narrow breach
I enjoyed Borderlands when it first came out but grew to hate the entire series
south shuttle
you gotta play STALKER at least
gentle zealot
gettin a little off topic guys
narrow breach
ya
patent thicket
Just the daily FEAR circle jerk. nbd
south shuttle
bullet time in amid evil when
tall temple
cool AE discussion
patent thicket
Yo the mods should have their own channel where they just tell each other to stay on topic. ❤
tall temple
we do
hollow otter
time only moves when the enemies do
narrow breach
that would make for a very short level
plain grail
there are no enemies and no combat but when you look at items you hear a voiceover from your sister talking about her pedestrian teenage angst like it's a big deal
implement all of these ideas for episodes 4-7
with extra microtransactions
dire briar
is everyone enjoying the AE?
plain grail
dude
flat kraken
At school can't wait to play when I get home
narrow breach
enjoying? absolutely not
plain grail
i am not joking when i say i have been waiting for this game since 1995
narrow breach
I'm having wet dreams here
plain grail
this is everything i love the most in an FPS
narrow breach
enjoying is an understatement
plain grail
the soundtrack is awesome too, love me some retrosynth
every weapon has some unique property that makes it stand out
narrow breach
some of the level design gives me deja vu on certain levels from the 90s games
plain grail
i know you guys said you're not planning MP but seriously
do some MP version of it
these weapons scream for competitive play
even as part of a DLC later or something
glacial chasm
its some good stuff
glacial chasm
is there only one endless mode map currently or am i missing some
plain grail
well get more staff for the sequel
because you're probably gonna make a sequel
you will make some money on this shit
it's really, really good
night ginkgo
if the game makes money lmao
plain grail
there's a market for this shit dude
DOOM 2016 proved that
i think you guys will do well
night ginkgo
I hope so
plain grail
not like crazy AAA Skyrim success probably
night ginkgo
just need to word out really
narrow breach
I hope so too
plain grail
but still you'll do pretty good
night ginkgo
the more friend recommendations etc. help a lot
plain grail
just keep shilling dem youtubers
there's guys who'd appreciate this
mandalore comes to mind
anyone who's all about retro fps
south shuttle
oh yeah I recommended the game in a few various places (including some of the worst hives of scum and villainy)
(like func_msgboard shudder )
narrow breach
I need to pass the word along to my quakecon peeps
lyric silo
i'm only 3 levels in but holy hell... thank you guys for this game
dire briar
chur
lyric silo
this was worth the wait
south shuttle
I see no reason why the game wouldn't sell like hot cakes; it runs well, it's good and it's fun
lyric silo
it has to
rustic kettle
why is there no offtopic channel
lyric silo
it is really fun
misty owl
It's called general
lyric silo
i've wanted another heretic/hexen for so very long
south shuttle
I've always considered heretic criminally underrated, it's good that there's appreciation for it
rustic kettle
ah yes found it
lyric silo
almost bad enough to try and make one myself, but i always bum out when i attempt to learn UE hah
heretic is criminally underrated
so many good memories of playing heretic against friends via modem haha
narrow breach
I played heretic more than doom as a kid back in the DOS days
narrow breach
so did my step-dad and his friend
and we played Hexen 64 splitscreen
didn't have any networking hardware
narrow breach
or more than 1 computer
lyric silo
hexen was great
lyric silo
this game sure would be fun with some multiplayer
oh yeah
loved the soundtrack
im really digging the AE soundtrack
south shuttle
amid evil's soundtrack kind of reminds me these dungeon synth acts
lyric silo
yup
south shuttle
I like that it's very subtle
plain grail
i fucking love dungeon synth
this stuff's a little too upbeat to be called dungeon synth i think but it's in the same vein
crystal spruce
hey played 4 hours
plain grail
you could put DRONN or GNOLL or Lux Viridis on alongside the OST no problem
south shuttle
yeah it's reminiscent
crystal spruce
all 3 episodes were cool as fuck
south shuttle
it feels like the soundtrack to an old RPG
sand lintel
are achievements buggy for anyone else? i've beat par time twice but still havent gotten speedrunner achievement
gloomy pike
honestly its crazy that all these good retro styled fps games came out on the same time
night ginkgo
yeah it's cool
I know ion maiden has been in dev since 2015 so I thought it would have been out a while back
AE has been about a year and a few months in dev
and it's just me and simon
honest dirge
impressive
crystal spruce
It's all so good... Now New Blood needs to license BUILD and make new Blood :)
tall temple
we're trying
plain grail
New Blood Presents New Blood (The New One, Blood That Is)
tall temple
we want blood badly
cursive kestrel
And get sued out of our asses
patent thicket
Yeah but don't use Build please for the love of God.
lone hatch
instead use lithtech
patent thicket
NOW WE ARE TALKING
steel brook
If you're willing to accept the limitations of the engine then there's nothing wrong with using Build
patent thicket
I'm not willing.
crystal spruce
In the hands of masters Build rocks... Cough cough
narrow breach
getting a bit off topic
plain grail
ze topic must be adhered to AT ALL TIMES
patent thicket
And the Ion Maiden guys apparently aren't either because EDuke32 is choking on their game. It's easier for everyone to just use a modern engine and make the game in the tradition of the classics, no need for a "classic" engine.
cursive kestrel
It's choking for reasons that are fixable
they aren't caused by it being a classic engine
It's a problem with the Polymost renderer, which is being rewritten
crystal spruce
Anyway Amid Evil
patent thicket
Ion doesn't use polymost
crystal spruce
It ties in
cursive kestrel
Yes it does
patent thicket
wew lad
cursive kestrel
You're getting confused with Polymer
crystal spruce
AE is Hereticish...
crystal spruce
We just need to make Bloodish
patent thicket
I get worse performance in Ion, and it feels worse overall even when frames are high compared to AE running on UE4. And it's going to be a pain in the ass for the Ion guys to bring that engine up to snuff. "Fixable" maybe. But it's gonna be a headache for no reason other than "authenticity". But anyway... not trying to be a hater. I do like Ion A LOT. Also AE. Because this is the AE channel where we talk about AE.
AMID EVIL IS SMOOTH AF.
cursive kestrel
That's because there's a bug currently in EDuke32 that causes it to randomly drop frames
patent thicket
EXACTLY
cursive kestrel
Which is part of the problem with Polymost
Like I said they're rewriting Polymost to fix those issues so time will tell
Polymost was written by Ken Silverman ages ago and it uses OpenGL 1.1, so modern GPUs don't like it very much
crystal spruce
By the time this hypothetical project off ground if ever... It'd be resolved AMIRITE
cursive kestrel
The new "Polymost2" uses modern GL
patent thicket
Again, even when frames are high, it's janky. And mouse only just now became sub-pixel movement, and that is like, a weird duct tape fix. FOV can't be adjusted unless they implement Polymer, which bring a heap of it's own issues.
cursive kestrel
but yeah my point is that it's not Build's fault
patent thicket
Build never flet good.
cursive kestrel
99% of the problems just stem from the Polymost renderer
cursive kestrel
lmao
patent thicket
9gb update for pubg why do i still have this game installed
jade marsh
We can just rewrite the renderer look how well that worked out for DayZ
patent thicket
They have it feeling way better than day one but WOOF. Games like DUSK and AMID EVIL and DOOM 2016 and heck even MGSV are games that keep me playing because they just FEEL RIGHT. Smoooooooooooooth (even with MGSV's 60 fps cap hmm...) Ion is just playable, nawmsayin. Also AMID EVIL! THE GAME OF THE CHANNEL! HOORAH!
gloomy pike
i'd trust the programmer on this stuff
gloomy pike
fine
patent thicket
Also GZDoom and Quakespasm... feel good on me hands...
jade marsh
What's Amid Evil
patent thicket
Amid Evil is why we are all gathered here today
narrow breach
night ginkgo
praise the lorrd
zenith socket
I came for jesus, stayed for the sin
jade marsh
Oh looks like an N64 game
wheat yarrow
^👹
narrow breach
🤔
jade marsh
Can we get Nightdive Studios to backport it
patent thicket
Yeah get Nightdive on it so it can have a 60 fps cap like PSHHHHHHHHHH
patent thicket
lol
jade marsh
I'm surprised the chat hasn't been, "So when's Episode 4 coming out?"
patent thicket
hmm yeah lol. I think I'd rather them just finish the game and dump it all on us at once
I ❤ getting dumped on.
misty owl
o
finite shuttle
vocal ingot
It gives them more HP but its not like, just padding health
An enemy which dies in two axes compared to one needs to be fought differently
But its like, still two sword hits for the standard guys; its not a large increase
patent thicket
Evil feels almost perfect to me. The only way I'd want to see the difficulty increased any more would but through a higher enemy count. But yeah like I said, feels right the way it is.
vocal ingot
Yeah, Evil is juuuuust right and it's been a while since I've played an FPS which does that
Being challenging without being cheap
Or tedious
patent thicket
Yeah. It's super manageable really. I hope Episodes 4-7 really put the clamps on my nuts.
gloomy whale
whenever the Star of Torment isn't on screen, players should be asking "where's the Star of Torment?"
crystal spruce
The difficulty in AE is definitely manageable but I was caught off-guard by the fact that all of the enemies are lethal, even on medium difficulty.
Like, if you compare a DOOM imp on HMP to the gold scrub knights in AE, it's not even close. The AE guy is fast and hits hard.
NEVER STOP MOVING
night ginkgo
GOLD SCRUB KNIGHTS
hahaha
they're bronze actually
the gold guys are in solar solstice
narrow breach
yeah but honestly doom 2016 if you stop moving you'll die just as quick as that too
crystal spruce
One man's bronze is another man's gold
crystal spruce
Like seriously... Jump down, they come running out of temple... I was like swing mighty Axe swing.... And miss... Even the first dudes are vicious
Must be bad hitboxes... 1/5 stars
night ginkgo
really? the axe has actually got decent melee range
also it can hit more than one guy at a time
crystal spruce
Oh no complaints
night ginkgo
also you can hold the fire button for faster swings
crystal spruce
I just didn't account for the wind up
narrow breach
yeah I noticed the first swing has a wind up then it's slice 'n dice
it's like punching with the fists in hexen
crystal spruce
It hits with a mighty THUNK
Thor's Hammer WHEN?.
I want a giant thumping hammer that boomerangs.
narrow breach
it'd be insane if the last 2-3 episodes had totally different weapons that still had similar playstyles
crystal spruce
Just throw it in a lootbox for 9.99 gold plated
narrow breach
gold scrub knight amiibo when?
lone hatch
@night ginkgo I think you have a fan
sour linden
STOP MAKING GOOD GAMES
finite ember
ion maiden
sour linden
I'LL GET POOR
cinder mist
hi i love you too too
finite ember
like
sour linden
Seriously fuck you guys
sour linden
i won't have any money to eat if you guys keep going like this
cinder mist
💖
finite ember
there wont be any multiplayer will there?
night ginkgo
not at this stage
cinder mist
aa thanks guys, these comments are seriously the best 😄
jade marsh
Maybe I just need to git gud
night ginkgo
since it's just me and simmo making the game (mainly)
finite ember
i could see these weapons be really fun in a mp setting
if i could buy more copies i would.
night ginkgo
it would be cool defo
finite ember
i had to literally suck someone off to buy it for me (kidding).
split fossil
🤔
jade marsh
Something about fighting the first boss with the staff in soul mode cracks me up on any difficulty
night ginkgo
so 4x7 = 28 maps in total
finite ember
damnn
so playing this
i really want someone to like
do Quake 1
LOVECRAFTIAN q1
odd worlds
industrial ambiance
but this is fantastic 😄
ost is good from what i heard
reminds me of Unreal
i love level design that makes sense in the scope of the game but not realistic in any way GG on that 😃
night ginkgo
what level are you up to?
uneven falcon
amid evil is really cool, i love it, finished the 2 first episode and i just wanted to know if there was a way to bind a key to take the last weapon used
plain grail
will the sequelspansion have more weapons
and tyter grafix
will the lead developer make us his bitch
jade marsh
The 2nd Episode just gets me going every time
devout olive
Gotta drop a review and buy a second copy when I get home from work 
sour linden
Also
I don't know how you guys did
But i really like its visuals
It looks old school
wheat yarrow
sour linden
But it still looks like something from this year
I don't know if it has to do with big textures + point filtering
Or the normal maps
devout olive
Cool, just don't steal the models from this one.
night ginkgo
it's the PBR
night ginkgo
it's a mix of new and old
devout olive
You said the visuals
lone hatch
Yeah Amid Evil has a very unique look
lone hatch
it looks old and new at the same time
night ginkgo
I do get irked when it's called a retro shooter, since it's not 100% retro
sour linden
I was replying about stealing models
night ginkgo
it's somewhere in between
sour linden
"stealing"
lone hatch
Its defintely has a retro asthetic but it still looks really great graphically
vast zephyr
retro-like
sour linden
I won't
devout olive
Watching you 
vast zephyr
just like everyone's favorite genre roguelikelitelikelite
sour linden
Learned my lesson from last time: You guys aren't so keen to ports
devout olive
👀
sour linden
Anyways, one thing i kinda wanted to see
(added on here, but not sure if anyone would like)
Was that fog that old games had for dark areas
night ginkgo
oh hell yeah we wanted to do that
sour linden
Not too intense but ,a bit enough to cause a claustrophobic effect
night ginkgo
just couldn't come up with something that looked good
I love that effect
there's a very slight player light
so if you go up to a dark wall it should light, but it's very subtle
robust kraken
i just bought amid evil earlier, really digging it so far
night ginkgo
robust kraken
my main question: can i expect more platforming as hinted by the hard difficulty selector-path? i'm one of those rare souls that loves fps platforming
night ginkgo
there's not much platforming. We worked on ROTT13, and got so many bad comments about it so it kinda turned us off that.
sand lintel
I like the platforming in the third chapter, has a pretty good section there
night ginkgo
any platforming will be for secret stuff
robust kraken
oh damn i didn't know that, awesome! and yeah, i remember the comments, i must've been one of the rare folks that totally loved the rott13 platforming
honest dirge
I liked ROTT13
robust kraken
rott13 platforming + checkpoints, that shit was awesome
cinder mist
im not afraid of making some jumps but not to the extent of lots of tiny platforms
glad you liked that though! haha
night ginkgo
amid mirrors edge
robust kraken
haha yea apparently a ton of people hate fps platforming, i'm just a weirdo i guess =/
vast zephyr
youre here so of course youre a weirdo
south shuttle
I like FPS platforming when the controls are tight and there's good air control
I'm one of those people who will defend the xen chapters in HL to the death
sour linden
But xen was cool
south shuttle
xen was dope
sour linden
And i agree
As a Quake player, responsiveness in air makes a huge difference in FPSes for me
south shuttle
yeah
night ginkgo
isn't quake's air control fairly low tho
south shuttle
it's quite high especially when you acquire a lot of speed
south shuttle
I have a few secret areas in my maps for expert players who know how to strafe jump and use air control so they avoid bumping their heads against obstacles 😈
I'm not too familiar with source air control to comment accurately
sour linden
@vocal ingot not really
I mean, on the heartyes
But it changed due to multiple playermovement code changes
south shuttle
also quake's air control and movement is slightly different between netquake and quakeworld
vocal ingot
I was always under the impression the code was the same, it just had like, different values so it feels different. Ive never bothered to learn either in depth though so idk
sour linden
Source is basically still idTech
Deeply inside it
Just like GoldSRC
There's still a bit of idTech
vocal ingot
Oh definitely, its just a matter of what was changed and what wasn't
Like, Q2 is still mostly Q1 but it's movement is completely different
queen leaf
Well that's my first playthough of all available episodes, fucking bravo Leon and Simmo!
night ginkgo
💓
cinder mist
thanks!! so glad you enjoyed it 😄
jade marsh
You havin pizza tonight?
night ginkgo
me?
zenith epoch
He gonna have ALL the pizza with that sweet Early Access moneys 💰💰
gentle zealot
leon rn
night ginkgo
steam is super cluttered right now, so AE has to get exposure other ways
word of mouth and youtube vids etc all help
plain grail
i'm at the last boss
frosty drift
^
frosty drift
spreading the word REALLY helps us out
versed violet
Been gushing it at work
plain grail
i need friends for that 😂 🔫
most of my friends don't care about retro fps rather
nor co-workers
plain grail
though one has epxressed interest
versed violet
Anime taaaaag
narrow breach
I got two friends intrigued
versed violet
Eyeballlssss
jade marsh
Yeah the people at my work know nothing of PC gaming.
To quote one: “Idk how you aim with a mouse and keyboard I don’t think I could do it.”
quick aurora
Here I come
frosty drift
push button
play gaem
review gaem
profit
quick aurora
frosty drift
yh
versed violet
We make money by reviewing?
night ginkgo
OOF
quick aurora
But in all seriousness
I think this is the second time I've ever bought a game day 1
tawny shore
Why we can't bind the weapons to whatever key QQ
narrow breach
because that isn't coded in yet
tawny shore
I was like "hey let's go bind all the weapons to the Naga like I always do in this games" and like noped. Hope that gets added at some point
narrow breach
things tend to be worked on in stages of priority
quick aurora
Confirmed for soon
zenith socket
@night ginkgo can I like send you beer or uber eats this week hahah
your working your ass off!
night ginkgo
lmao thanks but not necessary
frosty drift
man declining an offer of beer?
leon truly is the hero we all need but don't deserve
oh yea i need to change that
night ginkgo
gutted
quick aurora
Only the best for you ❤
versed violet
You guys happy with the release so far?
red ibex
hey @night ginkgo just a small QOL suggestion, allow weapon swaps to cancel shooting animations, I've taken quite a bit of self damage on occasion trying to get rid of my planet launcher
night ginkgo
that could be difficult
the weapons are sprites remember, so they use frame anims
I tried to make it as similar to doom as possible
but I'll see what I can do
red ibex
gotcha, even if you could queue it for after the current animation I think it would be a big improvement
narrow breach
I had a problem with that too
and queue'ing after end of animation would totally make sense to me
just ensure it ignores fire button until weapon has been swapped so it doesn't end up stuck in the firing loop where it ignores swap
tawny shore
Died from falling in the gateway thinking there would be a secret inside the bushes 🤔
versed violet
The secret is you die
vocal ingot
Yeah, second on needing to not be firing to switch being kinda weird
dreamy dew
yo so i gotta ask
i played a lotta dusk earlier this year, is this another horror aesthetic, cause my heart can't take spooks if so lol
quick aurora
Amid evil is just scary maze game 2
rotund bloom
change my mind
vocal ingot
So far it's not really horror at all
finite shuttle
it's more like a really colorful quake with less blood and eldritch horrors
cinder mist
in a way YOU are an eldritch horror cause you can tear earth from space and time and destroy it
quick aurora
YOU are the scary maze game 2
Change my mind
I could’ve been playing Amid Evil for the past two hours but instead I’ve sat in bed doing nothing
crystal spruce
on a scale of Call of Duty to DUSK, how good is Amid Evil for someone who adores DUSK?
cursive kestrel
I would generally say if you love Dusk, chances are very high you'll love AE
They both fill different niches, but if you have one of those niches, chances are you have the other
buoyant phoenix
AE is dusk with sword shaped guns
crystal spruce
ah, whatever, I've pulled the trigger on it, there's never enough cool classic FPS games for me
night ginkgo
I bet you'll love it
crystal spruce
the resurgence of these kinds of games is most welcome
lilac pebble
So I see the AI is smarter
and you have made some changes to the levels as well
No one is going to miss that staff at the very beginning anymore
night ginkgo
yeah heh
buoyant phoenix
Does it still talk about how it was formed in the sacred waters though?
night ginkgo
yep
crystal spruce
the game's great, but I am not a fan of the font
when it appears in random messages scattered about the level, it's fine, but in options, in the codex, etc. it's too much
maybe it's just me
by the way, am I correct in assuming that the Gateway has some kind of secret secret, despite nothing being indicated in the level stats?
cursive kestrel
evil difficulty is hidden in the place that evil difficulty is hidden in
cursive kestrel
fuck
versed violet
How can evil be hiddin amidst itself
vocal ingot
🤔
versed violet
Hidden*
buoyant phoenix
Evil surrounds you yet is hidden
versed violet
Okay philosophy major
buoyant phoenix
Better slaughter everything it took over
versed violet
Slaughter is good
buoyant phoenix
Only when it's against bad guys
versed violet
Of course
crystal spruce
this is the worst
yall gonna make me lose my money again
damn you new blood devs
tawny orchid
crystal spruce
ye
I always promise myself I won't buy any more video games
and then
you can always make an exception for more retro FPS goodness
buoyant phoenix
Just finished downloading AE, ready to teach those moon worshippers a lesson.
versed violet
Cant spell manslaughter without a man's laughter
rotund bloom
Can we dedicate the next three or four posts to lavishing praise on the cool architecture in Amid Evil?
vocal ingot
its gud
crystal spruce
it good
dreamy dew
truly heretical
devout olive
aaaand done
night ginkgo
thanks gilby
night ginkgo
man the steam reviews are nice
devout olive
I gotta do that too but it'll have to wait a few days when I have some spare time
night ginkgo
all good m8 up to you
devout olive
only negative one I saw was someone saying it stuttered
devout olive
excellent
cinder mist
love u gilby
devout olive
I think I'll just do a placeholder review until I can write something more substantial
cinder mist
also yeah, steam reviews are great
night ginkgo
lmao what was that from
buoyant phoenix
I go to BED meme is from a hdtf review
night ginkgo
that's right
cinder mist
do you think we could get reviewbrah to do a review of AE
devout olive
only if you get a deal with mcdonalds to put out a "heretic" limited edition burger
cinder mist
hahahah
wheat yarrow
Golden arches boss
tall temple
Arby's might do it
devout olive
crossover content game strong
wheat yarrow
Oh shit. Arbys might lol
cinder mist
The Grimace Realm
devout olive
you might be one to something there lain
wheat yarrow
Lmao
cinder mist
yeah arbys loves memes
wheat yarrow
Ronalds Wretches
devout olive
they could do a cardboard cutout of the moon guardian
night ginkgo
music wizard
devout olive
Aencients
cinder mist
on our server we're "Masters and Commanders"
night ginkgo
that's an indy reference
devout olive
there should also be a new level rank called "sentinel" inbetween soldier and leatherneck
cinder mist
cause Indefatigable, the ship form Hornblower
devout olive
OH THAT REMINDS ME
cinder mist
notice me sentinel
devout olive
devout olive
y'all invading my school life
cinder mist
hahaha
vocal ingot
You know, why not just name the role Indefatigable, it's already an adjective, it works
cinder mist
you're welcome
devout olive
I remember when the role was just AE Dev
devout olive
and we spent ages trying to figure out what ae stood for
WTF IS AE
I got pretty close
I think I guessed among evil
devout olive
your tunes were no small part andrew
especially sombre mythology
aka not-hiding-the-secrets.mp3
cinder mist
yeah dude, a few people have said it's unreal-esque which is like, exactly the vibe we're going for
music is a huge part
lofty tinsel
aelmao
wheat yarrow
👌 
👌
cinder mist
👌 👌
devout olive
cinder mist
showoff
wheat yarrow
Yea the music came together well for AE
night ginkgo
I fucking love the soundtrack omg
cinder mist
SAME
cinder mist
us starving artists cant afford nitro
night ginkgo
I was listening to some of the other tracks holy fug it's a winner
wheat yarrow
Y'alls implementing of the sound design stuff I handed over last month blew my mind when I fired up yesterday
cinder mist
same leon
night ginkgo
Dank
cinder mist
discords $ symbol is fancy as hell, with that slant and everything
night ginkgo
$exy
devout olive
crystal spruce
imo the music/soundesign oftentimes gets way too little recognition; when it is one of the major points that can influenve the whole atmosphere of a game (original DooM-PSX DooM and DooM 64); I have to chime in and say fantastic work again with AMID EVIL Mr. Hulshult;
wheat yarrow
👹 ✌
Leon and Simon really dug the Quake II enemy sounds so I kinda went for that a bit on the demon enemies for the most part. Heavily processed.
Lol they are almost all me with some crazy post processing going on, as well as AEguy
"The warrior"
crystal spruce
cheers (with my tea in hand :-))
wheat yarrow
Cheers!
crystal spruce
just some normal black tea, from Yunnan
cinder mist
black tea is my jam
crystal spruce
with smidge of citrus
cinder mist
mmm, that sounds great
crystal spruce
yup; some years ago I was a hardcore-coffee-junkie; but since then I switched to tea
crystal spruce
thx; nothing better (for me) to relax after work 👌
why is soulpower melee so satisfying to use
aye, propellering through a horde of bad guys is beautiful to behold
cinder mist
crystal spruce
just like in Painkiller
flat kraken
Make a button where AE dude laughs, best sound in the game
crystal spruce
The sound it makes when you smash it into a wall is pretty nice as well
Feel like a construction worker
lavish parrot
Just wait.. 
cinder mist
aehahaha cheat code
frosty drift
already reported. will be fixed in the next build
teal birch
ah ok, ty
cinder mist
welcome memelord
crystal spruce
Welp, I think thatll be my new name in here
crystal spruce
I’m so happy the response to AE has been positive. Yall should be so proud
frosty drift
thanks mr memes
signal sinew
OOOOOOOOHHHHH
crystal spruce
Yaaas
360p lol
yeah, youtube not being finished processing the video I guess
Mhm, takes a while
Anyone else getting this error very commonly when running Amid Evil...?
I've tried changing the video settings from Ultra to lower ones but it doesn't help either
fantastic game by the way 😉
quasi pier
ill wait for glorious 1080p before watching
crystal spruce
PMing the fix, ayy
somber osprey
steel brook
Dusk, Amid Evil, Ion Maiden, 2018 is an incredible year for the resurgence of retro-style FPSes
slim heath
well my back is messed up took today off work could be finishing amid evil today on stream
devout jackal
Cool beans about the stream, sorry about your back bro
frosty drift
👍
remember to lie down and take it easy aswell though.
slim heath
and smoke some ganja
devout jackal
Amid-Weed, bro.
thorn geyser
devout jackal
🍀🕓
frosty drift
woa
cold ravine
Its the ultimate stoners game browski
crystal spruce
blaze it my doggie
mellow quarry
Star of torment op.
star of torment for president
star of torment fuck my wife
void pulsar
The game is hitching every few seconds for me, and every time it hitches, the audio gets super choppy. Lowering video and audio settings seems to have no effect. Does anyone know if this is already a known issue?
devout jackal
I think some people managed to fix some problems by limiting their FPS in a cfg file? Not entirely sure. Might be worth a shot. Something about vsync being weird.
jade marsh
Lord some of the people in these articles about AE are so entitled
warm palm
@void pulsar Same here. My pc is potato, but a bit better than minimum specs, I've set everything to low and 720p and nothing changed
plain grail
"entitled" literally means you are owed something
warm palm
I mean Dusk worked perfect, hell even IO worked with hiccups here and there, but yeah
plain grail
oh btw @wheat yarrow your soundtrack is fucking amazing
love me some nice synths and this game is laden with them
good job
jade marsh
“It looks like a right laugh of old times, should be fun to play at the right price, I think 5 to 10 is a good enough number, they are over pricing themselves at its current price range, they’d get mass hits at a lower price. volume is always better than trickling..”
void pulsar
@warm palm Not sure if you're having the exact same issue I was having, but if you were, I was strangely able to fix it by setting the Frame Limit to the maximum setting.
Constant stuttering when it was set to 60, occasional choppiness at 120, zero issues at 240.
Seems like the only problem I have now is that I get a second or two of audio stuttering sometimes in the menus and when I finish a level, but other than that my performance seems to be fine.
Also, goddamn it is satisfying to see such excellent level design on display in the very first map.
fiery osprey
is there gonna be a place for feedback about the game on here or should I chuck it on steam?
wheat yarrow
Steam forums are probably best. It would be a real nightmare to sift through pages here to find feedback.
cinder mist
yep, steam forums
we read every piece of feedback and every crit, and appreciate it 💓
fiery osprey
Thanks @wheat yarrow & @cinder mist
For the record I've had plenty of fun, just got some perculiar nit picking
oak thorn
are secret interactable walls a thing in AE?
cinder mist
@fiery osprey glad to hear it, and happy to hear any feedback
wheat yarrow
Glad you dig it @plain grail
cinder mist
@oak thorn you don't need to press anything to interact with any secrets
plain grail
hey when you overcharge people with the voltri and they explode does said explosion actually deal damage?
like to other enemies?
cinder mist
but there are some secret walls
plain grail
also playing through on hard now and it's fucking intense
now that i got the nuances of the weapons down it's fun as hell and i pull through by the skin of my teeth more often than not
very satisfying
cinder mist
oak thorn
cool, thanks!
cinder mist
great to hear
wheat yarrow
No it's like the minigun from UT where you could make them dance. There for fun @plain grail
plain grail
maaaaan
cinder mist
yeah andrew speaks wisdom
plain grail
you should make it do damage when it does that, it's super-satisfying to do but sounds like a waste of ammo
cinder mist
also with voltride, if you wanna convert a regular kill into an overkill just keep pumping them with electricity
cinder mist
is that REALLY a waste