even if it doesnt matter
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
blazing bridge
lapis jetty
You'll still be playing Ultrakill 
muted jolt
Maybe you're spoiled for fasters FPS like Doom Eternal or Ultrakill
or slaugthermaps
i mostly when i play Dusk, it's for full speedruns runs, or chill walks
so in a sense, i understand you
if that's your case i guess
hidden willow
dusk feels much faster than ultrakill to me most of the time
muted jolt
But you're killing more faster than Ultrakill?
hidden willow
not usually except in a couple of levels but the whole game just feels faster in most bits
open bridge
really delayed......then why fucking make that vid
void anchor
they didn't know it would get delayed most likely
sturdy ermine
You'll only be forgiven if we can sideload quake maps on switch
muted jolt
updated broke switch machine
open bridge
nah screw that this is bull shit
cold bay
YO ARE WE GETTING A BOX FOR DUSK SWITCH
open bridge
ive waited all year year and not this.....a delay just for a box.....shit ban me now causre this is bull shit
muted jolt
it's for problem of the dev with new update
sturdy ermine
So limited your ass won't see it until a scalper sells it on ebay for thrice the price.
void anchor
And also further improvements
sturdy ermine
Aaaah
open bridge
so its most likely never comeing out at this point,
muted jolt
like shingeru miyamoto say some day
sonic night
The Delay is because the Lotcheck is release date hell if you're not a AAA publisher
muted jolt
"a delayed game it's better than a bad game"
void anchor
Nah, it's probably coming sometime next year first quarter
sturdy ermine
"Just wait a bit lol " shingeru myamoto
open bridge
this is pure bull shit they shouldnt have made that vid ten
sonic night
It's NBs first switch game.
void anchor
They didn't know it would get delayed
muted jolt
"Just buy breath of the wild" Regie Bowser
sturdy ermine
Dude, game exist, porting can be difficult
sonic night
They didn't know about the lot Check
sturdy ermine
Just wait
jade root
you do know patience is a virtue, right?
muted jolt
it's not like there a team of 10 devs on the switch port
sturdy ermine
Imagine if they port dusk to android lol.
open bridge
just wait, uve been wait ever since they annoiceed the switch ports like 2 fucking year s ago
blazing bridge
Unfortnate spacemen on switch would be cool also😳 😳
jade root
so you have to wait a bit longer, so what?
blazing bridge
Gloomwood also😳 😳 😳
jade root
is it really worth throwing a tantrum online?
sturdy ermine
Dude, we been here since the beta.
sonic night
The Lotcheck is slow and painful but it'll be worth the wait guys
open bridge
ikr
muted jolt
i waited dusk for xbox360 😦
jade root
i mean yeah id be disappointed but at least you got a dev update
rather than radio silence
but if you wanna sit here and say stuff like so its most likely never comeing out at this point, and just lose your mind over a delay, go ahead friend
meanwhile everyone else is handling the delay like an adult
sturdy ermine
Game exist on linux
sonic night
This is the first time I've seen you this cutting, Jab
sturdy ermine
Just ask for the source cide
open bridge
@muted jolt xD that made my night
sturdy ermine
And port gaem as switch homebrew
jade root
@sonic night i dont have patience for children who cant appreciate the hardwork thats being put in to the port
NB has always done right by their customers
always
so when people act like this over a delay
its frustrating
mild ginkgo
hey so
mild ginkgo
@open bridge it was not delayed for the box
fringe sun
Is dusk on switch supoorts 120 fps with hdr 4k features
sturdy ermine
Just buy this 5 to 600 dollars machine that's the size of a 3DS.
mild ginkgo
nintendo's lotcheck process is twice as long as it normally would be right now due to cv19
normally its 4 weeks
sonic night
^^^^^^^^
mild ginkgo
and now its 8 weeks
we didnt know that when we announced a date
this has slowed down our process of finalizing the port
jade root
if some dude comes in here and asks for help with dusk on gdp win i will personally drive to your house and tell you to fuck off
sturdy ermine
What's so difficult ? Game is drm free
mild ginkgo
we appreciate that youve been waiting, and we're very sorry we had to delay, but we're doing the best we can
sturdy ermine
Just put it in a folder somewhere
untold vale
Damn, got the news about the delay. That's a total bummer.
sturdy ermine
Nothing wrong with a little dusk on the go.
mild ginkgo
you wont be waiting long
untold vale
Very happy to hear that all the improvements to the Switch version will be backended into the PC version later, though.
jade root
everything about the gdp win is a scam
mild ginkgo
you might even get some of those improvements sooner than youd expect ;)
untold vale
I welcome that!
void anchor
i see why lmao
sonic night
Literally DUSK is the third Halloween victim of the lotcheck I've seen in the past 10 years and everyone here should be glad that the devs are using this delay that they did NOT want to further improve the game instead of bitching about the lotcheck and sitting on the game like some other teams did in this scenario
untold vale
Nintendo certs take a really long time, sadly.
mild ginkgo
thats correct
unfortunately that process is completely out of our hands
if we could make it go faster we would
sturdy ermine
@jade root dude.
What do you think i'm typing this message on.
mild ginkgo
without a doubt
sturdy ermine
;)
untold vale
Look, New Blood don't mess around with quality. You got time? You use it!
fringe sun
So is dusk on Switch Support Raytracing
jade root
how much did you pay for it
jade root
i rest my case
sturdy ermine
It's a niche product, of course it's expensive.
void anchor
i rest my case
it must be very tired
untold vale
@sturdy ermine, I have a 5 TB full of old and new games myself, dude.
sturdy ermine
That's a good case.
sonic night
The NVIDIA Shield console was cheaper than whatever tf you're using jesus christ
muted jolt
let people with money let stuff with money
sturdy ermine
Smaller than ly hand.
pulsar lake
dusk with a controller does not sound good
jade root
its not bad
pulsar lake
especially the nintendo controllers
sturdy ermine
Jab is a bulli, he doesn't like people having fun
jade root
specially with the autoaim
untold vale
let people with money let stuff with money
@muted jolt That'd be easier if I can throw it to New Blood with abandon and buy their shit in triplicate.
untold vale
...Shit, that's right.
sturdy ermine
It's about having your money's worth and getting what you want, fam.
And i got what i wanted so.
👌
Not sure what people told you or what you expected.
jade root
i mean if you are happy
sturdy ermine
I wanted a way to play all my games from 1995 to 2010
On the go
And guess what, it does just that.
Perfecto
sturdy ermine
You gotta be a moron to try and run more recent games on this shit
Hey, don't sweat it, fam
jade root
pick your poison, i guess
untold vale
To be fair, that thing is way too rich for my blood, too.
sturdy ermine
In my case, it's everything i wanted from a portable machine.
untold vale
Thankfully, the Switch scratches that itch for me.
sturdy ermine
When you get stuck six month in an hospital, playing legacy of kain on the go is
Ompf/10
Android can't do gamecube well, but the win can
So i get eternal darkness and timesplitter too.
untold vale
No joke, though. Going back to DUSK, I'm going to be very happy about the short load times and, I hope this is true, the shorter boot time on startup.
sturdy ermine
Honestly, it's one of the few times i have found a product that did everything i wanted it to.
Doesn't have to be everyone's cup of tea, but it doesn't mean it has to be dunked on the ground like an ugleh babeh
I shall end on this note.
red gale
Needless to say this also goes for the comic release
Which was mostly done but with this extra time I’ll try and put in some more polish and maybe do some stuff to clean up the first part
untold vale
...Comic?
sturdy ermine
Dusk had a comic.
untold vale
The prequel comic, yes!
sturdy ermine
You might. At times, i had difficulties making out what was happening .
red gale
Yeah me threeish years not the best
untold vale
What about this DUSK comic, though?
red gale
Well if you bought the intruder edition off steam you have it
Otherwise the new stuff with the first part will be printed with the box edition
untold vale
Yo, that's pretty damn cool!
red gale
Very cool
abstract skiff
Halloween Dusk hasn't made it real after all!?
Bad Boi!
Scott bad boi, David bad boi...Mr.Oshry bad boi...I must play Dusk once again.
crude forge
hey i got a question
why is 1280x720 not a resolution option
and instead has every resolution but that
spare cobalt
maybe you should ask why am I using this resolution if every other one is supported 
crude forge
it wont let me
like seriously
also the resolution settings act really weird
like it'll skip some settings if i go right but will show others if i go left?
i cant even use the config files to force it to run in 720p
rugged shell
Dusk on switch got delayed and i'm fucking sad
crude forge
like i click the right arrow while 1280x600 is selected and it goes straight to 1360x768 but if i press the left arrow from there, it goes to 1280x1024?
i... what?
eternal sky
Better performance and faster load times sounds awesome
@crude forge i think its because it orders itself based on vertical resolution
mild ginkgo
we've functionally removed the initial "loading tunes"
so you can boot into dusk in a matter of seconds now
eternal sky
Awesome
Dusk Patch Notes
-Audio Removed (Too confusing for new players)
Can we get any tidbits on the alternate control schemes btw?
I assume they are just to help players used to other kinds of FPS games
untold vale
Dude, I welcome that change to the intro boot.
Each wait on bootup is torture when I just want to blast shit.
main mica
Dusk on switch owo
abstract skiff
we've functionally removed the initial "loading tunes"
@mild ginkgo SUPER AWESOME, good boi!
heady lion
@mild ginkgo may I ask you a question?
Is it only going to be available via the website for limited run, or will it also be available say at like gamestop etc?
mild ginkgo
we dont have the full details for distribution yet, but we will make an announcement about it when the time comes
heady lion
Ok thank you 🙂
lapis jetty
we've functionally removed the initial "loading tunes"
@mild ginkgo (is it fine if I ping you?) On all platforms???
mild ginkgo
yep its fine
and yeah, we made the change for switch, but we're going to patch it into the pc version (very very soon)
lapis jetty
mild ginkgo
along with fixing some major performance bugs that existed in the pc version
muted jolt
144 FPS
lapis jetty
Mamma Mia Flesh Palace is on Switch only right?
Man I really hope Ultrakill gets a limited run physical too
It's too goddamn good to stay on Steam
heady lion
I dont care about a price tag, Ill buy Dusk digitally, I really want a physical copy tho.
Hell, money well spent
lapis jetty
I mean, since the SDK is a thing, Mamma Mia Flesh palace probably won't stay exclusive
muted jolt
don't wanna make missinformation
lapis jetty
In due time
heady lion
Ill pay extra for the soap
lapis jetty
I'd kill for a soap launcher
heady lion
abstract skiff
Soap is a weapon.
lapis jetty
Didn't know they continued designation past CV11
eternal sky
Soap is a weapon is cult is stinky
remote vector
Thought: gyro aiming in dusk for switch paves way for dusk VR 
mild ginkgo
We do have some fun ideas for dusk vr, but we'll see if we ever get around to them lol
remote vector
Would be insane to play some of those spooky levels or erebus reactor in vr, but heres hoping
heady lion
Thought: gyro aiming in dusk for switch paves way for dusk VR
@remote vector gyro aiming sounds like a very bad idea, ill be turning that off lol
remote vector
Bad idea or no, still a cool one to implement into switch rather than just a port over. I'd at the very least try it, attempt a flip, break my switch and cry
mild ginkgo
Im certainly not huge into it, but we added it because it was hugely requested
theres options for turning it off, inverting it, and sensitivity
remote vector
Sensitivity: max
Do a guitar hero tilt and just give yourself whiplash
And yeah gyro aim sounds cool id definitely request it and at the least try it
Btw i started a project on the side, started recreating levels in DUSK for dnd purposes, been very interesting to do. Some levels work really well tbh
remote vector
Good to know...
misty spindle
I had started a list of suggestions for quality improvement on Steam a while back
Dusk is good, but I feel like it lacked a few things in the settings and could use little improvements so I'm curious to see what changes has been made
I also think Daved said on Steam that now when you finished an episode you can go directly to the next one
and yeah, we made the change for switch, but we're going to patch it into the pc version (very very soon)
@mild ginkgo
mild ginkgo
Im not familiar with your specific list of suggestions
if you link it i can take a look
amber sparrow
spare cobalt
misty spindle
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't mean to ping you for this, I was just sharing my excitement ^^"
I can still send it, but it's been a while and I wanted to refine it and things, but never took the time, so here's the unrefined version. They're just silly random suggestions, not "Do this please list." ^^
https://steamcommunity.com/app/519860/discussions/2/1646544244468181423/#c1646544348827396971
if you link it i can take a look
@mild ginkgo
mild ginkgo
i will look them over
misty spindle
Can I ping you if I ever update it/refine it ? Or would you rather not ?
i've been thinking about going back to it, but never took the time
misty spindle
Also I'm curious but what are the sensitivity settings for everyone on this game ? 1.0 is way too fast for me, and I can't find the right balance. I think last time I aggressively played at 0.35
pliant wraith
@misty spindle Mine is 0.5
never had problems with it
it's the perfect sensitivity for me
pliant wraith
that moment when you've forgotten to save and a cart dog comes out of nowhere
definitely didn't happen to me ;-;
void anchor
gotta put down the pooch
prisma cypress
yep
mild ginkgo
theres more than that up, you just cant see them yet 👁️
eventually they might even be good servers
i actually found a little bit of time to work on dw
so the servers should stay up now lol
prisma cypress
we dusk people appreciate it, thank you
lapis jetty
When this goes free, I hope it maintains its followers
jade root
Now that the duskworld channel is deleted duskworld is doomed
Say bye bye to DW
Scott is being transferred to work on Gloomworld
karmic rivet
doot
prisma cypress
@mild ginkgo what you will do on halloween? like an event?
prisma cypress
lmao cool
sick blaze
anyone wanna join my server
prisma cypress
bro #454345257027502082 @sick blaze
sick blaze
i was just asking before i did it
sorry
@prisma cypress
no way your that really good guy
i was playing with
prisma cypress
thank you :D
sick blaze
your top 5 aye
quartz bough
does using crystals of madness count as breaking pacifist?
balmy sluice
Shouldn't.
quartz bough
im in iron cathedral and they're really tempting me but i dont know if they count as my kill
balmy sluice
I never used em when going for pacifist, but all it does is make them infight. Which doesn't count against you.
quartz bough
what was harder for you to do pacifist- e2 or e3?
cause e2 was a pain in the ass but i feel like e3 may be easier
balmy sluice
If you know the level, pacifist really isn't that bad on either episode. You can fly through them without much issue. Untouchable is a different story though.
quartz bough
idk it took me awhile on e2m2 to get up that massive staircase at the end with all the soldiers
balmy sluice
I think I just let them all come down first lol
Then ran up without them bodyblocking me.
quartz bough
i think what i did was wait for the first wave of them to walk all the way down and hope and pray while squeezing through the top 3 or 4
barely worked
yeah my biggest issue with pacifist runs isnt that dodging the enemies attacks are hard, its that they're getting in the way with their massive hitboxes
jade root
wide bois
mild ginkgo
yeah they have pretty huge hitboxes lol
quartz bough
cultists especially like what was jakob feeding them
amber sparrow
A lot of shit breaks pacifist currently
quartz bough
i can tell
quartz bough
speaking of which
i did not fire a single shot, swing my sword once, block with my sword once, or anything of the sort
but
mild ginkgo
99% of it is intentional
quartz bough
mild ginkgo
we made the conscious choice to have explosions break it
quartz bough
i just used crystals of madness
mild ginkgo
so its not likely to be "fixed"
amber sparrow
yeah but explosions are also jank af
amber sparrow
can the game keep track of what causes the explosions?
amber sparrow
yeah that's what I meant
mild ginkgo
we COULD have it do that
balmy sluice
Honestly, it's really only an issue in like 2 or 3 maps
mild ginkgo
but no need
amber sparrow
I guess
quartz bough
the explosions are fine i dont care about that
balmy sluice
Fucking, e3m7
mild ginkgo
the one bug with explosions
quartz bough
but i only used crystals
mild ginkgo
is the bug where mama doesnt take damage from explosive barrels
amber sparrow
Maybe you hurt one of them with the crystal directly somehow?
is the bug where mama doesnt take damage from explosive barrels
@mild ginkgo That's a bug?
mild ginkgo
yes
amber sparrow
Also what's amusing about it is that it's a case where explosions ARE different
quartz bough
i didnt think enemies take damage from being hit by the crystal
amber sparrow
because rivets and grnades you fire will hurt her with their explosions
mild ginkgo
well, its not actually, theyre the same explosions, its a dumb bug, it has to do with mama, not the explosions
amber sparrow
how
misty spindle
we made the conscious choice to have explosions break it
The only moment were it is really really bad, is with E2M10, the Boss doesn't take damage from its explosions but the Pacific Run breaks
mild ginkgo
thats one that legitimately made it past us and we should probably fix
amber sparrow
if the xplosions are the same and the game cannot distinguish them
quartz bough
yeah E2M10 pacifist was pain
amber sparrow
I really have no idea how mama takes explosion damage from some explosions but not others if all explosions are the same
mild ginkgo
has to do with the player specifically dealing damage
amber sparrow
ok but then that means the game DOES sort of keep track of what the explosion's source is, no?
mild ginkgo
sort of but not in any particular way, more that it detects your rivets and mortars
not the explosions themselves
amber sparrow
I'd call that a difference
misty spindle
Guessing what breaks the pacifist run in that level is the first step, since he never takes damage
Then being fast enough and orient his attacks so the explosion doesn't touch him is the second one
Third being guessing if you succeeded or not, or only finding out at the end x)
yeah E2M10 pacifist was pain
mild ginkgo
well, theyre two distinct things
amber sparrow
They are functionally different
mild ginkgo
well theyre literally two separate objects
misty spindle
time to restart
@quartz bough What difficulty are you on ?
amber sparrow
I'm guessing the game cannot keep track of "chain" reactions like "explosion caused by barrel triggered by X"
mild ginkgo
basically we can only ever know if the player was responsible from and explosion from a mortar or a rivet
quartz bough
cero miedo
mild ginkgo
thats correct
amber sparrow
Only the direct cause
amber sparrow
so it's not a property of the explosion at all but some other sort of check?
(no idea what sort of check it could be in that case)
mild ginkgo
you could technically say it is, but only ever if its from a mortar or rivet
any other explosion source does not have any logic to tell the difference
including barrels, gas cans, etc
amber sparrow
I assumed mama not taking damage from explosions was intentional because her place is full of them
and that it's some sort of anti-cheese
mild ginkgo
actually i think its just a mistake lol
amber sparrow
though you can set her on fire and just wait all the same
maybe it's a reference to the cyberdemon not taking explosion damage?
That was another idea I had
mild ginkgo
nah, its a bug
misty spindle
cero miedo
@quartz bough
I never did it on Cero Miedo, I would have lost it by now, so I'm literally impressed you are WORTHY
mild ginkgo
we talked about it after you discovered it
amber sparrow
Sounds like an oddly specific bug
amber sparrow
idk I can't name any that felt oddly specific
mild ginkgo
there used to be one where the entire game would break if you finished a level upside down while you had superhot
amber sparrow
I've encountered some that were explainably specific
Like superhot super-exaggerates intoxication effects because it moves your camera at the same speed but for a way longer time
misty spindle
there used to be one where the entire game would break if you finished a level upside down while you had superhot
XD specific indeed
amber sparrow
lmao
misty spindle
Like superhot super-exaggerates intoxication effects because it moves your camera at the same speed but for a way longer time
I should try that
amber sparrow
break as in crash or freeze or become extra weird?
mild ginkgo
well, pretty much tons of shit broke
including the games timescale
and the framerate
and you could no longer move in the next level
misty spindle
I would have loved to see that x)
mild ginkgo
it was pretty miserable
amber sparrow
I'm trying to figure out how that could have happened
mild ginkgo
jank, basically
misty spindle
Dusk is the best jank ever ^^
amber sparrow
not too much if you don't look for it,I think
I think my entire way through I was like "oh wow this game has no issues, must be on some pretty solid engine and stuff"
Then I watched last december's dev commentary and was like wtf
mild ginkgo
we just fortunately had a good team to catch errors, and hard working people to fix them
there is still one major major bug in the game
that we have no idea how to fix
and probably never will
quartz bough
that major bug being?
amber sparrow
prob not the super high superhot jumps because those are cool
mild ginkgo
occasionally, for some reason we do not understand, jumppads will take you like only 75% of their proper height
and wont stop until you restart the game
quartz bough
that seems to happen with a lot of jumppads in games not just dusk
mild ginkgo
loading new save, new level etc doesnt fix it
it will happen to every pad until you restart it
and this is a problem in a few areas of the game because theyre required to progress
the big one being the big john chute
mild ginkgo
so much so that we actually put in basically a hard scripted fix for that specific spot
so when you go in that chute, no matter what, you will make it to the top
its like a 1 in 1000 bug
amber sparrow
does it only happen on maps with superhot by any chance?
amber sparrow
dang
mild ginkgo
the most common case is e2m8
which doesnt have one
that one is somewhat gamebreaking if it happens there
the section with the jump pads, you wont be able to reach the ledge you need to get to
so you will have to rocket jump or use crossbow to reach
its extremely rare however, so it doesnt happen to too many people
misty spindle
I think the source code will be
crimson folio
Anyone up for deathmatch? I’m new
amber sparrow
Go to #lfg-signup and then you can go to #454345257027502082
crimson folio
Ok
amber sparrow
i guess i just couldnt let any crystals impact enemies
@quartz bough Oh so that was the reason after all?
amber sparrow
The jump pad glitch has no found way to replicate it? No system specs that produced it more often?
Though I guess all this has already been looked into by now
quartz bough
hey google, can you look up bone monks
"sorry, did you mean a pacifist's fireball turret?"
mild ginkgo
yes it will be open sourced
the sdk version at a minimum
MAYBE the original
we'll see
misty spindle
I heard it was planned
mild ginkgo
and yeah, we did as much investigation as we possibly could with no real results
we put bandaids on it, but i dont know if we ever conclusively fixed it
thats the thing, without a known cause, we dont 100% know if our fixes worked
amber sparrow
"please report this bug on sight" could be a thing lol
misty spindle
Yeah, wouldn't there be a way to have logs people can send you and make a huge bug hunting with all the community ? Or I don't know
I never had the issue personally
twilit quest
quartz bough
crypt of the flesh?
noooo
unless you want 7-8 horrors following you around the entire level
does the unholy altar count as a kill?
amber sparrow
Is the impact smoke the only thing low spec mode disables?
quartz bough
i just soaped it
god brimstone ghetto is damn near impossible cause of the tunnel with the soldiers/welders and all the barrels
eternal sky
On duskmare?
quartz bough
nah cero mierdo
eternal sky
Oh
balmy sluice
But pacifist.
balmy sluice
You really have to just fly into that room as fast as possible and grab the barrels
eternal sky
Yeah
balmy sluice
That's what I did for it at least
eternal sky
Can you make the enemies shoot the barrel and kill themselves?
eternal sky
F
elder isle
amber sparrow
Zero Shits
amber sparrow
It should be renamed to something generic so people wouldn't screw it up
Like how people call Gloomwood Gloomworld or whatever
tardy slate
a friend of mine is experiencing some exttreme loading times
like up to 20 minutes
startup to be exact
anything he can do about that?
amber sparrow
wuat
graceful wing
Cero feeto
pliant wraith
eternal sky
Pet
prisma cypress
cool thing bro
blazing bridge
wheres tiny neck
then microscopic neck
then atom sized neck
then quirk sized
... neck
heady lion
Duskneck
dapper cape
he's dead
muted jolt
he was a sacrifice
muted jolt
rip littleneck, we will miss ya
crimson folio
is that v1 as paper
muted jolt
yeh
crimson folio
beautiful
muted jolt
thanks
i'm gonna make another when Ultrakill Act 2 releases
as the torso on that was small in comparation with the head
and will make have a V2 Arm
nova crag
@muted jolt I want to make the v1 paper man where is it 
muted jolt
In my PC
nova crag
I want to make it
Ok under closer inspection I see it's just a lil thing
I thought it was a printable foldable figure lol
that's why I asked fp
muted jolt
?
It's like the littleneck
It's rougth as it's was made without many measurements
olive cloud
@jade root can you post the pins from #dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofduskworld for changing maps and name colors?
lapis jetty
I already fought the Wendigos why is E2M2 still fucking mortifying
wise crane
Mortifying means shameful or embarrassing 👀 I didn't find the level to be THAT bad
frozen ermine
Because the sound effects and the silence and the feeling of impending doom still resides
pliant wraith
i've finished this game 5-6x by now
and still get chills from that wendigo hallway
olive cloud
To change your namecolor in duskworld you have to write \cx in front of your name.
x is rplaced by another letter that corrosponds to your color.
my name is \ckK\cjREUZER\cvMANN
it displays the K as yellow, the REUZER as white and MANN as cyan.
There are a couple of other codes but the only way to find those out is by using trial and error
mild ginkgo
well, its the same way you do it in doom
so if you know how that works, youll be set
short basalt
This game in a nutshell
prisma cypress
lmao
amber sparrow
fitting
amber sparrow
posting it here too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E396b5b6Rgs
prisma cypress
cool
crimson folio
duskdude is so stupid. doesnt he know hes supposed to use the gems to trade? smh
just 1 gem slapped onto your torso will protect you from nothing
however, if you trade that 1 gem for 25 armor vests you will be unstoppable
jade root
duskdude doesnt need armor though
he just needs to be happy
thats enough to protect him
crimson folio
happiness will not save you from the other side of a scarecrow's shotgun
jade root
it has for me
crimson folio
how
crimson folio
shit maybe
blazing bridge
I don't play dusk to be happy, a sane person plays dusk for its ssg.
pliant wraith
ssg?
void anchor
Super shotgun
blazing bridge
Super shotgun
crimson folio
blazing bridge
gunshot super
crimson folio
i've played quake e1m1 on dosbox for 15 minutes, does that count
amber sparrow
I may have played 5 minutes of it
hollow tiger
Like all the way through?
Because i hadn't played most of it, but I did a couple levels
crimson folio
i haven't played it since
pliant wraith
but I got a bit bored of it
crimson folio
quake's levels are pretty impressive, big step up from doom 2's batch of good & shit levels
amber sparrow
Quake is great, I think it's absolutely gorgeous
crimson folio
walkable areas under walkable areas means endless sewers 
blazing bridge
I wanna make a game called EarthQuake where Quake is made of earth then people call him EarthQuake
Yes I know I'm a genius
amber sparrow
only thing I dislike about quake visuals is that a fired lightning shaft doesn't move with your crosshair and the beam feels like it lags behind
also very limited palette, but it's fitting for the time and used well enough
void anchor
if we're talking vanilla it's not a contest
DUSK
But if we take mods/maps into consideration, it's less clear
crimson folio
i would choose dusk
i like hupping around in semi dark areas with a powerful super shotgun
not walking around wondering if the next threat is about to murder me
upbeat pecan
I dunno. I suppose Dusk. But quake has some cool movement finesse
amber sparrow
Dusk
I've never actually played Quake really, I just want to admire its looks sometimes
(without the lightning shafts being rendered at 5 fps)
but I guess there isn't really a way to make the shafts not 5 fps 😦
upbeat pecan
Quake is on the n64. When is Dusk coming to the n64?
crimson folio
i've played a bunch of quake 3 when i was 5
hollow tiger
Dusk is coming to switch but I would pay good money if someone could get dusk working on an N64 cartridge. Official or no
void anchor
how bad did you do
crimson folio
pretty bad
upbeat pecan
I'd throw all the money in my bank account at them for a remake of dusk on the n64.
So like 50 bucks lol
crimson folio
dusk on pc lmfao
amber sparrow
never gonna happen
pastel kindle
Bought the Humble bundle cuz I´ve been wanting to play DUSK for a good while now and its even more excellent than i expected.
void anchor
nice
pastel kindle
It´s really hard to imagine the smooth controls when just watching the gameplay.
round ether
i want to play a while, ¿How i found servers? Im new
crude holly
Servers appear whenever. The community isn't big enough to have hosting 24/7 but if you join lfg you mgiht get a ping when someone decides they want to host
round ether
ok, i think i create a server (?
pliant wraith
why does it feel like the mages, cart dog and wendigo mutliplayer characters all have a bigger hitbox than the soldiers or scarecrows
or maybe it's just an illusion that I seem to hit em more easily
pliant wraith
lol
round ether
guys, how is called the 'cultist' in dusk?
pliant wraith
mage
crimson folio
what
round ether
thanks
olive cloud
the hitboxes are different
round ether
what means that symbol on the tunic of the wizard? (Im sorry if i have bad english, im mexican)
crimson folio
pliant wraith
the hitboxes are different
@olive cloud Does that mean the soldiers have the smallest hitboxes
in multiplayer ofc
if so they should patch that tbh
eternal sky
I liked the soldier but since my HECU cosplay failed i may play wizard or Wendigo
wispy quiver
I use the wendigo skin so I probably have the largest hitbox
heady lion
@mild ginkgo is multiplayer going to be cross platform, if it is I can see pc player dominating it lol, would be fun to test my luck at it tho.
mild ginkgo
the switch version will launch without multiplayer, we'll see about the future
heady lion
Oki
prisma cypress
the switch version will launch without multiplayer, we'll see about the future
i think its a right thing to do, switch is clearly in disavantage
olive cloud
@pliant wraith it shouldn't be patched. If all hitboxes would be the same then they would be inconsistent because the models still have different sizes.
heady lion
i think its a right thing to do, switch is clearly in disavantage
@prisma cypress I mean all it takes is skill, people with controllers can be just as good as people on mouse and keyboard
heady lion
Given enough time, ill be just as good as anyone else
prisma cypress
sure but, you need really much time, and you actually are in disavantage
because the controller stick is not precise enough
you cant fucking aim with your thumb
yes you can be good, but never like real pros
mild ginkgo
could probably add mouse support to the switch version lol
prisma cypress
WELL that can change everything
crimson folio
i find it amazing its gonna work on the swich but if they can do it im sure it'll be amazing
misty spindle
I've lost some of my 100% on Dusk with no reason :/
proven sinew
I have a burning question
grizzled tapir
yo any news on dusk coop? it still in the works or is it on hiatus right now cos of covid?
proven sinew
On duskworld there's an edited track of "run" with extra strings in the background
Where do I find it
crimson folio
@grizzled tapir It’s after the SDK is fully finished afaik
void anchor
DUSK is on sale for 41% off on GoG right now
spare cobalt
GO GETTUM
olive cloud
Given enough time, ill be just as good as anyone else
@heady lion
with a controller you are always at a disadvantage if you play fps against pc players
maybe in slow games like COD you might have a chance but not in duskworld where doing 180°s is required
the stick is literally incapable of doing flick shots
and you have much more control over your charackter with wasd
brisk lagoon
I dunno. Playing without mouselook is crippling, but the full analog range of a joystick for movement is nice.
spare cobalt
eh not for dusk tho
I get your point tho
tho I'm a guy who plays Tekken with a keyboard
🤷♂️
brisk lagoon
What can I say? I got an incredibly weird enjoyment out of Q2PSX with the PlayStation Mouse. 🥴
void anchor
i remember there being a game sometime ago
where the recommended control scheme was
left hand on controller
right hand on mouse
for full 360 movement and mouse aiming
spare cobalt
FragFX controllers or something were like that
brisk lagoon
That's how Q2PSX with a mouse worked, actually. What with there being no keyboard.
spare cobalt
remember there being alot of butthurt on consoles because some people used those
brisk lagoon
That's so strange. It's actually kind of charming. :v
olive cloud
a stick for movement might be nice for racing games and platformers but not for a game with movement as demanding as dusk
you can't do that with an analog stick^
olive cloud
so left hand controler + mouse
with wa/wd i simply stop pressing a and switch to d
with an analog stick i have to shift it all the way to the left and then all the way to the right
you simply can*t do the nesecarry microadjustments
brisk lagoon
You couldn't quickly move your thumb 45 degrees? 🤔
void anchor
also the deadzone bullshit
where to make microadjustments you need to nudge them extremely lightly
olive cloud
but it's way more demanding and inpercice than just switching to another side
with wasd
brisk lagoon
I guess it's impossible, then.
olive cloud
it's not impossible. But it's way harder
proven sinew
Controller is good for slower games like r6 or cod
olive cloud
why the fuck does everyone on this server try to end a debate with some sleezy comment
i mean
proven sinew
I didn't read the debate but I saw the first few messages
proven sinew
Ah
brisk lagoon
Didn't mean to make it sound that way, sorry.
olive cloud
ok. Sorry for misinterpreting it
brisk lagoon
Not your fault, I'm just not very good with words. 🥴
pliant wraith
currently trying to beat cero miedo on intruder mode
it's like a whole nother experience!
fights require more strategy and ammo is more scarce
crimson folio
that's the true dusk experience imo
I usually play the same with one save at beginning of each level. Duskmare is possible, even on intruder but its just not that fun.
undone jay
the thing with dusk is that its all so fair
amber sparrow
intruder mode is good if you know the maps already and you want that challenge
I also like the game being fair
I just think the difficulties could be shifted by one step upwards
CM feels like medium
accessible to ICTI feel like very easy to very easy
as slav reviewer said
round ether
im very bad at dusk, ¿Do someone have a tip?
amber sparrow
move around the enemis while shooting in their general direction and you should be fine
try to be at mid to long range most of the time
enemies are only really dangerous up close
but you can run fast enough that even close range can be okay, even if risky
mid range for shotguns
assault rifle and hunting rifle are good at very long ranges, the AR is perfectly accurate if you click for every shot
single pistol is also good at long range but dual isn't
the mortar is very good
you can right click with it to blow up grenades and you can shoot further with it while moving forward
deals a ton of damage in a large area
you also have a cigar on weapon slot 0
which can heal you so you need less medkits
Dusk gunplay feels super intuitive for me
undone jay
slide is nice but situational
basic shotgun can kill the black felipes with a single shell but for most other enemies the super shotgun is better+
eternal sky
Early on rely more on shotguns and rifles
undone jay
but when youve got a rapid fire powerup the dual shotguns are pretty damn good and allow you to stay at a comfy distance from most enemies
amber sparrow
I'd say the super shotgun is risky and quite situational
undone jay
look for secrets everywhere
eternal sky
This may sound weird but i realized i would do better when i could like switch between concentrating on moving or shooting
After a while you get good and you can do both
undone jay
the sword can be a godsent if you manage to stay on max health and armor
undone jay
its risky but it can very easily take out everything up to the scarecrows with a charged attack
and reflect most projectiles with the block
amber sparrow
Moving around and shooting in the general direction of enemies should get you through tha game though lol
undone jay
you can use the crossbow to jump
which is not too effective but can work
and has the benefit of not taking your health
you can also use the crossbow to cheese some sections since it penetrates through walls
and if youve got trouble with a boss or enemy soap it
the soap can instagib any enemy including just about all bosses so if you can find it it might be worthwhile
amber sparrow
You can press the quicksave button as many times as you want also
but that shoudln't make you run into the face of enemies
you'll just lose less progress if you happen to die
have fun
turn down the difficulty if you want to
read the red texts that pop up even though they don't always remain for very long
I think almost all of David's games have text appear on screen for amounts of time that can be too short for a lot of people
undone jay
bunnyhopping is op
should be obvious but if you havent figured it out
its amazing
can get you to top speeds almost instantly
and its literally required for some bosses
pliant wraith
I can finish dusk on cero miedo only dying once per episode
still haven't managed to do a no death run
and I also turn intruder mode off :/
except the run i'm doing now
amber sparrow
green shotgun primary fire feels so much better to me than blue shotgun's
pliant wraith
wrong channel xd
upbeat pecan
Cero miedo has the best balance imo. Duskmare is fine and all especially if you run single levels, but it will always pigeon hole you into a playing the game slower and still give you its share of cheap deaths.
It's always definitely a throwback to old games with just a meme level difficulty
haughty sky
Honestly it's funny when you think about it
"Alright...I just need to slide, grab the hunting rifle, Shoot the enemies...Let's go"
Gets shot by a soldier
vast tangle
Duskmare is a gimmick difficulty, like Nightmare in classic Doom or Ultra-Nightmare in Doom 2016 and Eternal
obtuse prairie
idk why but duskmare seems easier to me than the other meme difficulties
i mean its obviously not easy
olive cloud
ah
brisk lagoon
some people are just broken inside like that
olive cloud
yea dusk has no hitscanners so it's not that dofficult
obtuse prairie
that's probably why
proven sinew
I want a mod where soldiers are hitscan
obtuse prairie
it also doesn't respawn the enemies
proven sinew
For extra pain
eternal sky
I want a mod that gives hitscan crossbow to rats
pliant wraith
erebus reactor on intruder mode is hell
unkempt condor
void anchor
why not buy on GoG lmao
eternal sky
Dusk on GOG comes with goodies?
prisma cypress
yo, is there any dusk books or shit like that?
pliant wraith
there's the graphic novel
amber prism
who want to play?
prisma cypress
wut
pliant wraith
well that's kind of the only dusk book out there
prisma cypress
oh ok, thanks
pliant wraith
I just finished episode 2 intruder mode
prisma cypress
nice
pliant wraith
was too lazy to kill the guardian normal way lol
prisma cypress
i just played the campaign 1 time on normal difficulty lol
pliant wraith
lol
I've replayed it like 4x on cero miedo
I just love this game
and i've also got some hours on duskworld
prisma cypress
im playing it on cero miedo and im trying to get all the achievements
pliant wraith
noice
prisma cypress
how many?
pliant wraith
I got 20/30 rn
prisma cypress
hours
pliant wraith
I think around 5-7 not sure tho
amber prism
the first episode is the best part of game on my opinion
pliant wraith
all episodes are awesome imo
episode 1 is definitely the most horror and atmospheric
prisma cypress
I got 20/30 rn
@pliant wraith i got 242😂
amber prism
yes , i agree with you
pliant wraith
@prisma cypress oh I meant 20/30 achievements
amber prism
maybe because of that i love it most of all
prisma cypress
oh ok sorry
pliant wraith
I got like 5-6 hours on duskworld
prisma cypress
bruh i have 242 hours
pliant wraith
xd
amber prism
i discovered it 5 min ago lol
pliant wraith
how do you have that many when the servers are dead most of the time
amber prism
i havent noticed multiplayer icon before
pliant wraith
I probably have like 48 hours total on dusk
amber prism
how do you have that many when the servers are dead most of the time
@pliant wraith and that`s awful
prisma cypress
yes
amber prism
the fashion for retro games is back, so it might get noticed
i hate modern shooters , so i I seek refuge in games like BLOOD and DUSK
so
somebody want to play with me?
eternal sky
Depends how you define modern
eternal sky
Yeah
Competitive games in general i tend to dislike
Like only recently the industry realized that movement can play a important part in a game
And they still can't go beyond moba style abilities for that
void anchor
god, how people enjoyed CoD on consoles i will never get
it's just shooting
you don't move at all
And Titanfall got the shaft
so not too many people played it
eternal sky
Tbf it was one of the only console games that could do 60 fps on a console
Even i noticed how it felt very smooth
pliant wraith
people still continue to spend 60 bucks for the same game every year
while not paying 20 buck for this amazing game
heady lion
What exactly is intruder mode?
pliant wraith
intruder mode basically means that the ammo and weapons you got from previous levels disappear
so you start out every level with sickles only
heady lion
:o fun times
void anchor
it's basically the pistol start of DUSK
heady lion
Will most likely be doing that when it drops for switch
pliant wraith
E1M9 is a bitch on intruder mode
heady lion
Have you known anyone to sickle only the game?
heady lion
Use only sickles
arctic pewter
You would have to break your rule for some bosses.
arctic pewter
Other than bosses it could be done.
pliant wraith
well
you don't have to kill the other bosses
but the last 2 you have to fight
so nope it's impossible
arctic pewter
It might be possible to sickle.Jakob to death on the easiest difficulty?
amber sparrow
It's probably possible on all of them
arctic pewter
They may be some switches you have to shoot, or atleast terrain to rivet.
heady lion
What about the guy at the end? After jakob?
amber sparrow
if you're going for low tech, I believe the crossbow is allowed for it
pliant wraith
don't think that's possible
the only way to sickle him would be to get on the ground
and the ground damages you
also
you have to shoot the light cracks
to be able to damage him
arctic pewter
The last boss is simply too far away.
amber sparrow
it's possible theoretically, you can get back on the platform to heal with the cigar
pliant wraith
oh yeah come to think of it the light cracks do make it impossible to sickle only
heady lion
I cant wait to play Dusk..
pliant wraith
since you have to shoot them
there's no way you can reach them with the sickles only
amber sparrow
probably 100 health should be enough to get you up to him, get a hit or two, and get back alive
arctic pewter
The boss can only be damaged in certain spots right?
pliant wraith
only his torso
heady lion
Can you jump to him to sickle then back on the platform?
arctic pewter
Basically you would have to allow the rivter for certain bosses and to blow up certain terrain.
pliant wraith
and those are unreachable with sickles
yeah
if the rules would be a bit more stretched then maybe it would be possible
heady lion
Oh
pliant wraith
I don't think you can get past jakob tho
he has a riveter and double barrel shotgun lol
amber sparrow
you can shoot the cracks with the crossbow
which doesn't void low tech
and you can _theoretically sickle him to death if you crossbow the cracks
sword prob better
oh you cannot even get up to him?
pliant wraith
but why would you torture yourself like that