like honestly aside from e3m9 i think most of dusk's problems can be attributed more to minor issues then anything, like enemy pathfinding being kind of finicky at times (which is mostly only really a noteable issue in e1)
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
jagged ferry
mild ginkgo
it was our first full size project as a company, and filled with mistakes we made. we learned a lifetime of lessons making it, and going forward, everything we do will be informed by that
for example, gloomwood is being developed from the very start with all that knowledge in mind
and we hope that will show in the quality of the end product
jagged ferry
"gloomwood's ai will, in fact, be able to navigate a house properly"
mild ginkgo
lol
jagged ferry
i joke but i'd imagine ai pathfinding is genuinely a lot more important in a game like gloomwood then dusk
since in dusk it's more "M Y E R D E R"
whereas in gloomwood you're not just bunnyhopping through blasting a super shotgun at light speed
amber sparrow
ill be the first to admit its too simplistic, and couldve used more flair
@mild ginkgo One thing I find a bit off with it and endless levels is complete flatness, barely any terrain
It's okay though
mild ginkgo
yeah i agree
jagged ferry
would've been really cool if the arena changed with each fight (even if it was just by teleporting you to a different arena)
amber sparrow
I like when the terrain is bumpy and I can use it to my advantage
Might mess with explosions though...
amber sparrow
I'm not sure how explosion hit detection works
if it goes slightly around corners or not
jagged ferry
e3m9 exists
amber sparrow
Episode Three is the best
jagged ferry
viral grotto
e3m9 is one of my favorite levels in dusk tbg
jagged ferry
cero miedo*
amber sparrow
E3M9 got me pissed for the first few minutes
I was constantly dying at about the third wave
balmy sluice
You just gotta be a Chad to understand why E3m9 is great I guess. Sorry leaf
viral grotto
i beat episode 3 in cero miedo on my first playthrough because i wanted to flex on my friends
amber sparrow
Me too
I play through games once, but then I want the full experience
So it's one long playthrough
jagged ferry
i don't dislike e3m9 and i like what it sets out to do
mild ginkgo
flex on em
jagged ferry
i just find it repetitive
mild ginkgo
thankfully dusk has a level for everyone pretty much
jagged ferry
yeah
mild ginkgo
so if you dont like one, youll probably like another
amber sparrow
I didn't find it repetitive
jagged ferry
ok?
balmy sluice
I'm just messing with you dude
amber sparrow
Who edited the styling of the wiki? I'm grateful.
balmy sluice
Not I
viral grotto
i really like how dusk has no hitscan enemies
amber sparrow
@balmy sluice also some days ago I pm'd you a list of junk pages
coarse swift
yeah instead we got rats (which are better than hitscan)
balmy sluice
Yeah Perci, I just never got to it. Then I forgot entirely. Lol
viral grotto
the rats are enemies sadly
rats and big john are the only enemies i have felt bad for killing
thats because they're both really cute
balmy sluice
coarse swift
the rats try really hard to be annoying but i cant help thinkin they're cute
viral grotto
their. littol crawling. noises
jagged ferry
the rats infuriate me
coarse swift
also btw im really glad the dusk wiki exists, im surprised there's one for that game god bless
coarse swift
try saying it to this face
viral grotto
big john js a big cutie and you are jelaous because he is more cute and adorable than you
jagged ferry
why would i be jealous of big john
viral grotto
how much damage do rsts deal in duskmare
jagged ferry
yes
coarse swift
all hits on duskmare is insta kill
jagged ferry
exactly
amber sparrow
∞
jagged ferry
all hits on duskmare do yes damage
coarse swift
rat stronk
jagged ferry
i believe splash damage is equal to cm tho
amber sparrow
I still wonder if it's just some very high number that the damage gets multiplied by on duskmare
or +infinity
100x should be enough
jagged ferry
"if damage==YES
{
player.dead==true
}"
balmy sluice
Please do not leak source code
jagged ferry
it is too late
viral grotto
because i really enjoyed hotline miami
jagged ferry
and i was really scared because i thought it froze
balmy sluice
Yeah, duskmare is right up your alley then
jagged ferry
also
viral grotto
if dusk was a fruit it would be a lemon
crimson folio
if dusk was a fruit it would be a slice of beef
jagged ferry
i just take note of them
balmy sluice
Duskmare is so rewarding to play though
crimson folio
especially with nbdeity cheat
coarse swift
just watching duskmare playthroughs is a sight
viral grotto
ultra duskmare
crimson folio
ultratra duskmare
viral grotto
evil blood ultra duskmare must die moon
coarse swift
can only be completed via consuming more boomer juice
viral grotto
i have a controversial opinion
i like dusk better than blood
i need to replay episode 2
coarse swift
that's valid my dude
red gale
Sup
coarse swift
yooooooo i fuckin love your work on the dusk graphic novel man!
red gale
Aw thanks man. The second one is on its way pretty SOONtm
Looking through the mentions I was shocked to see so many people assume it was canceled and not just me taking my sweet ass time on stuff
coarse swift
im good waiting, take all the time u need. all that inking in ur style must take forever tbh but that makes it all the better
red gale
But now I’m in the clean up and color phase so it’s on it’s last run
The inking is the best part for me so it’s not that painful compared to the layout and pencils
coarse swift
hype. im in love w that art style, those inks are beautiful
red gale
Honestly the problem with working on something for that long is the fact you get better at it and the pages you did at the start of the project are no longer up to quality, so you have to replace or redesign stuff.
I also added like, 20 pages from just the 30 I planned. I was having fun with the guardian fight bit.
coarse swift
the cycle of style update pain but oh man that only means more content and art for dusk i cant wait
esp with the creative ways of interpreting fights and panel layout
red gale
again, thank you, you won’t have to wait too much longer.
I’m really excited to see how people respond to some of the decisions I made with it. I drew it knowing what people wanted out of it and made it pretty accordingly.
coarse swift
hell yea, tho i hope it wasnt too stressful balancing people's expectations vs what you personally wanted to do for it, but it's nice to be proud of ur own work too
red gale
I think I found a pretty good balance. The Dave’s are pretty accommodating about the whole thing. Honestly I’m excited to get into whatever comes after this.
uneven path
do people really dislike ep3? I thought it was the best one. I loved the artstyle in every level. Ep2 just blended together but ep3 was awesome from start to finish
i love the final gauntlet
after playing a lot of classic fps on highest difficulties, dusk wasnt a big challenge on cero miedo
so e3m9 finally felt like a battle worth fighting
jagged ferry
yeah cm feels more like a normal difficulty then the hardest (non-meme) difficulty
uneven path
fuck yeah szymanski put me into an arena with metal music i can do this all day
/\ basically why i like e3m9
atomic bronze
my favourite level is still Blasphemy for that one setpiece
humble lark
Nice I was wanting to ask what peoples fav lvls were for each episode
jagged ferry
me? e1m9, e2m5, e3m8
humble lark
Mine was either Old Time Religion or Dim Slough for episode 1, The Unseen for episode 2, and a close tie for Iron catherdral or city of shadows for 3
rip I could have made that simpler with the e numbers lmao
quasi granite
for me it will be E1M7 E2M5/E2M6 (can't decide lol) E3M3
simple pilot
E1M1/2/S/3/5/8, E2M2/4/7, E3M3/7
jagged ferry
e1ms is my second favourite from e1
quasi granite
E1MS is my fav secret level tbh
quasi granite
also what is the worst level in each epsiode in your opinion (asking everyone)?
tardy slate
ei - the cutty mine
e2 - the thresher
e3 - the city level
jagged ferry
i just think they're the least interesting of their episodes
quasi granite
vriska is is best or worst levels?
jagged ferry
actually no not e2m6, e2m3
quasi granite
for me it will be E1M6 E2M2 E3M4 (worst)
they aren't bad
but they lose much after first playthrought
tardy slate
worst
jagged ferry
e3ms is just pain
if we're not including secret levels then e3m9
it isn't pain it just drags
quasi granite
e3ms is the 2nd worst in episode 3
jagged ferry
wait
thinking e3m4 is the worst level in episode 3
subjectively you have the right to your opinion
tardy slate
best are probably e1ms, e2m1, e3m10
jagged ferry
objectively you can take a 12 step program off a 10 step pier
tardy slate
what is e3m4 again
quasi granite
the crypt
jagged ferry
crypt of the flesh
tardy slate
nah kinda sux
jagged ferry
you're banned
quasi granite
again i don't consider it bad
jagged ferry
well you were banned for saying e3m3 is the worst e3 level but you're still banned
quasi granite
but it loses much after first playthrought
quasi granite
since you know what will happen and not knowing what will happen is the main strenght of this level
tardy slate
e1>e2>e3
i just kinda stopped playing dusk at some point in e2 and forced myself to finish e3
quasi granite
its purpose is just to be """"""""""spooky""""""""""
tardy slate
dunno, i highly prefer the simplicity of e1
jagged ferry
damn are you torei because that's a bad take vriska
quasi granite
E1=E3>E2
jagged ferry
you know i had too
the double whammy was right there
also e3ms is literally just an inside joke that only david could get without him just saying what it is
and it's not even a good joke
tardy slate
i got sick and tired of the whole machinery/factory theme in e2 by level 3 and e3 didnt grab me at all as most levels felt really streched out
jagged ferry
and e3m9 becomes a drag even on your first run
jagged ferry
and on subsequent runs it's either "Oh no, this one." or "welp this was a waste of a minute"
quasi granite
E3M9 kinda felt like Serious Sam
jagged ferry
that was the intent
quasi granite
and i like serious sam
quasi granite
why?
quasi granite
well i only played TFE
but i heard that TSE is better
so idk what you are saying
amber sparrow
My favorite level is Episode Three
simple pilot
my favourite level is Quit Game
zealous bluff
Uninstall game was better tbh
amber sparrow
I love the Ratacombs
I think it's a fun joke, and a fun level
My favorite secret level out of the three
amber sparrow
"Chungus... Big Chungus..."
lunar adder
twilit quest
what
slow harness
I'd love to consume
mild ginkgo
Yeah I want leatherneck or cultist
humble lark
kinda late to the worst episode party but, just wanted to say: E1M4, E2E1, E3M6 are my least fav.....Don't get me wrong I still like them, just hat I liked all other lvls more
sonic night
I've said this before and I'll say it again
humble lark
also I would like cart dog plushie XD
sonic night
The giant rat and goats are the best choice for plushies as the low poly look already gives them a big plushie look
humble lark
or wendigo
sonic night
Cart dog plushie will real cart and you can just take the dog part off of the ropes
humble lark
that sounds awesome haha
sonic night
It's about as fucked up as the actual cart dog concept
humble lark
yeah.....I was thinking I would want one...but Im like huh is it actually ok lol?
I guess I like cart dog just simply because its a doggo XD
brisk lagoon
A cultist one would be a bit awkward to explain to guests, though.
"No, mom, he's not a Klansman."
humble lark
lmao honestly all plushies from this game would be difficult to explain
idc tho still would buy all of em
sonic night
Alright
humble lark
In the end, the one I really want is Duskdude plushie
sonic night
The cart dog is messed up because yes it's a bubber, but it's got it's limbs stapled to the wheels
mild ginkgo
he needs a finished design for that
sonic night
Would the duskdude plushie have a smooth beard, a scraggly beard, or a beard that's filled with soot n junk
humble lark
hard to say
sonic night
Isn't there technically a finished design in the digital comic?
humble lark
maybe last two since hes in combat constanly?
sonic night
Imagine in the dusk dude plushie if you mess with the beard enough you pull out a tiny low poly bullet casing
That was stuck in there
humble lark
that be sweet 😄
mild ginkgo
while the comic is official, the designs are all the interpretation of the artist
humble lark
ah ok, well Ill be waiting for official design then 🙂
mild ginkgo
he was given pretty much total freedom
crimson folio
Nice
old tree
Finally got into my backlog and was able to play Dusk this week. Just wanted to say: Fuck you Big John.
crimson folio
Yahgh
humble lark
COME ON KILL ME, DUAHHAHA
mild ginkgo
yes
prisma cypress
thanks 🙂
amber sparrow
It gives you more vertical FOV
uneven path
"No, mom, he's not a Klansman."
@brisk lagoon I'm dying XD
brisk lagoon
humble lark
lol Im using that anime leatherneck pic as my steam profile currently
er wait I was but I just changed it last night XD
prisma cypress
It gives you more vertical FOV
@amber sparrow and if I play on a 4:3 monitor there are pixels?
i dont talk about a 16:9 monitor palyin in 4:3
i say a 4:3 monitor
it has got more pixels?
@amber sparrow
prisma cypress
Thank you so much
amber sparrow
Sadly I couldn't get it to run in vertical mode so no :(
I hoped I had found the cursed grail of vertical filming in DUSK
Also just thought of "You failed your final test" as flavor text
atomic jolt
Just beat it - I really enjoyed Dusk as a whole because of the abundance of clever setpieces and kind of obtuse/hard to find secrets, along with the minimalist nature of the horror
The more you explain the less scary and less interesting things are, so I appreciated the restraint
slow harness
you know what's even cooler
there is no proper explanation for most of the horror in dusk
david just thought "lol this looks cool"
atomic jolt
I guess people's opinions might vary wildly on this, but the way the ending was resolved disappointed me - it felt like something that made all the action futile
@slow harness I love that
My favorite level was Homecoming for that reason
slow harness
I am disappointed by that
atomic jolt
Just like a dream
I suppose the player has to fill in or project something
entering the realm of fanon
atomic jolt
that's my hope
errant carbon
I liked the ending, cause like, Lovecraftian stories aren't known for their happy ends
And considering it's ||Nyarla-fucking-thotep||, makes sense
willow drum
man I hope the dusk sequel has ||dusk dude|| as a boss
||maybe have him beg the new PC to kill him or free him||
oooh, and if david decides to make a sequel, have it called dawn
||maybe have hastur be the villain? ||
void anchor
Dawn is already the name of the dusk modding kit
willow drum
hmmmm
void anchor
SDK is the more technical term
willow drum
now I cant think of a name
void anchor
Midnight?
void anchor
Eh, just call it dusk 2 then
void anchor
I guess
willow drum
||plus it can be about eldritch horrors harvesting mankind||
void anchor
||or Nyarlathotep "harvesting" champions||
willow drum
yee
if harvest has too many syllables, REAP also works
as in "you reap what you sow"
nah i can already see the obvious sexual assault jokes
maybe just Dusk Harvest?
uneven path
Dusk: Sunrise?
zealous bluff
You mean Dusk 2: Dawn
humble lark
Dusk 2: Dusker
viral grotto
i do not want to kill ||duskdude||
twilit quest
dusk till dawn
spare cobalt
SDK is Dawn so sequel has to be "Dusk: The Next Day" for that maximum crimng
old tree
The Duskening
red gale
Yeah the DuskDude design is pretty much open. What you see in the end and in the comic are more or less a base.
Hat or hatless, skinny or built like a house. All on you.
jade root
Lite-visual aid
humble lark
make it so duskdude has overly muscular arms, but skipped leg day XD
robust radish
i think Dusk II (roman numerals) is fine as a sequel title
cuz doom II and quake II did it that way
shadow marten
willow drum
beneath dusk? even if civvie already used that
afterdusk?
come to think of it
how could you make a sequel to dusk that isnt just the same thing as the first one
amber sparrow
Just beat it - I really enjoyed Dusk as a whole because of the abundance of clever setpieces and kind of obtuse/hard to find secrets, along with the minimalist nature of the horror
@atomic jolt I read the entire message in Michael Jackson's voice
jagged ferry
HAVE SOME MORE CHICKEN, HAVE SOME MORE PIE
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S BOILED OR FRIED
JUST EAT IT
uneven path
Why would dusk dude skip leg day? He bhops like a chad
humble lark
GET YOURSELF AN EGG AND EAT IT. Also true Hackerman XD, he runs as fast as the wind as it is haha
red gale
Heavy top/skinny legs is kind of a design or style thing I abuse a lot.
jolly yew
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mild ginkgo
Use + or -
jolly yew
One message removed from a suspended account.
outer nacelle
has anyone ever interviewed dave szymanski about the inspiration behind some dusk enemies
because id love to see that
zealous bluff
The Wendigo's introduction was apparently inspired by STALKER SoC
Specifically the first appearance of the Bloodsucker
I think
outer nacelle
i guess i can kind of see that
i know david said stalker is his most favorite game
twilit quest
stalker dumb and dusk dumb
red gale
Wendigo was a mix of the bloodsucker and Mark Diaz’s suggestion
Don’t know what an Algonquin Native American cannibal spirit is doing in Pennsylvania but shut up it’s cool
Probably my favourite to draw
sonic night
Have you been to Pennsylvania
There's a lot of shit here that logically shouldn't be here
red gale
Tbh the other side of my apartment is a alien, scary place where they do things differently so no
coarse sigil
I overslept on my nap and missed frag night.
formal root
anyone for MP right now?
cold bay
#454345257027502082 is a thing
coarse sigil
Just saw it, my goblin brain isn't that good.
crimson folio
i have been super stressed and low-spoons lately and there sint currently anything that can be done to resolve the stress other than waiting for about a month so for the last week i have just been trying to beat e3m9 on duskmare
mild ginkgo
thats a challenge for sure
crimson folio
ive made it past the rat wave once, but died immediately after lmao
usually i just die to the scarecrows tho
the unpredictability of the spread to their attacks makes them really damn tricky
fierce wind
Howdy, How's the custom map thing work? Any suggestions for maps to try out?
jade root
compact haven
I am just excited to see killer scarecrows in a video game
lean belfry
Yo guys I have a problem in my game and I wanna see if anyone knows about it or has experienced it. Right now, I'm at E3M10 and the guns are not working
Like, they are not even appearing
Plz I'm literally at the last level of the game I just wanna complete it
Don't tell me that I have to restart the episode 😫
Nvm I fixed it thank god
void anchor
Yeah, you just need to press any weapon number lol
Thought it was something scripted too in my first playthrough
lean belfry
Lol I play on controller that's why
I just went on my keyboard and pressed a random number lol
I just finished the game
The best 20 dollars I've spent.
Holy shit I really want another episode
void anchor
Good game huh?
quasi granite
on what difficulty did ya play?
void anchor
Thankfully the SDK is almost completed (afaik) so there'll probably be some dedicated people in the future to make a custom episode
paper oyster
anything that can be done to resolve the stress other than waiting for about a month so for the last week i have just been trying to beat e3m9 on duskmare
@crimson folio
thats the opposite of resolving stress hahah
topaz forge
||the red guy in episode 3 sounds like someone jerking off||
serene basin
can I add new music to the base game or nah
jade root
Through the mod tools I think so
serene basin
aye aye
fluid wraith
I just made a DUSK video, am I allowed to post it in here to get thoughts? or is there a designated channel for shilling
tawny pebble
@fluid wraith According to the rules you should put that in streamers den. However if its a game play clip of dusk or something like that then it can go in here I believe.
fluid wraith
It's kind of my own trailer for the game, no commentary.
So here it is https://youtu.be/dedSH-SyZOY , mods forgive me if i shouldnt have posted it in here
amber sparrow
the red guy in episode 3 sounds like someone jerking off
@topaz forge what red guy
also what
topaz forge
i don't know his name
topaz forge
this
quasi granite
idk if u should but you will be safer spoiler tagging it
topaz forge
oh im sorry how
quasi granite
select text in discord and click the eye icon
quasi granite
its name is ||horror||
topaz forge
epic
untold elm
fluid wraith
Jakob Chiguhr
red gale
After Andrew mentioning basing the voice off of Peter Steele I cant hear it any other way.
muted jolt
So here it is https://youtu.be/dedSH-SyZOY , mods forgive me if i shouldnt have posted it in here
@fluid wraith Nice video bro, it's records some of the best moments of Dusk
but why you kill mages with swords in 1:39 
That's the best setpiece for the x-bow op'ness
cold bay
if you think that is the extent of the xbows power then you are sorely mistaken
crimson folio
This man can attest lol
fluid wraith
@muted jolt I figured that was good place where the sword could just chop through a lot of enemies at once, the crossbow seemed to shoot a little slow without rapidfire
I really appreciate the feedback though it was my first time making a vid like that
muted jolt
it's good and some moment's fits with the music as well
covert finch
In E3M10 I'm having what seems to be a bug, ||I load in without guns and when I pick up weapons they don't appear and when I go into the boss fight I have no way of fighting back, and looking at youtube it looks like they should appear when you walk over the guns around the initial map||
jade root
Press a number on you keyboard
twilit quest
iirc its not a bug
twilit quest
isnt the "pickup" thing just auto-weapon switching?
mild ginkgo
the final map , when you load in, holsters your weapons in order to add to the sense of atmosphere
twilit quest
game too hard cant shoot guns
mild ginkgo
there is however an associated bug with it
the most common method of switching guns, the scroll wheel, doesnt unholster
twilit quest
oh that'd be it
mild ginkgo
at all other times, scroll wheel would normally unholster
twilit quest
wait
mild ginkgo
so a lot of players think the game is broken because they go to scroll and it doesnt work
twilit quest
oh thats
ok woops
didnt know the filter didnt even ping me or anything ; 3;
i use number keys like a stoopid head
covert finch
Weird bug indeed
amber sparrow
Doesn't firing also unholster?
fluid wraith
In E3M10 I'm having what seems to be a bug, ||I load in without guns and when I pick up weapons they don't appear and when I go into the boss fight I have no way of fighting back, and looking at youtube it looks like they should appear when you walk over the guns around the initial map||
Deja vu
mild ginkgo
yep perci, except in e3m10
we'll fix it in the next patch, its just that patching dusk means we want to accumulate as many fixes as possible before deploying one
simply because we have to build and verify like 14 different versions of dusk
32bit, steam, gog, mac, linux, etc
ebon radish
dont forget 16bit and 8bit versions!
fluid wraith
Really need to patch the little problem where there aren't enough episodes
need more dusk
limber mica
THERE'S A 16 BIT VERSION OF DUSK????
can I run it on DOS?
this is better than retro city rampage if true
atomic egret
limber mica
dang
limber mica
You have to build for 14 platforms though
I assume you have ports to the major consoles?
limber mica
Ah
crimson folio
a dusk n64 cart would actually slap
simple pilot
dusk without music
twilit quest
music is on a separate cart
simple pilot
separate cartriges*
crimson folio
Why does Dusk take so long to start up? it took me 4 minutes to get to the menu, even DuskWorld loads faster smh
I get that the tracks are high quality but dang
woeful shadow
It loads in 5 seconds to me
woeful shadow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
twilit quest
oh shit it is?
crimson folio
Yeah, just look at the files you'll see Unity shit
twilit quest
unity engine has always been my fav
crimson folio
X Doubt
twilit quest
since its both the jankiest thing ever and really, really fucking cool
it just has this weird quality about it
all unreal games look the same to me
it gets really old
like yeah they look nice but
idk theres something about building stuff in unity
i gotta do it again
crimson folio
Don't get me wrong, If used properly Unity is a great engine, but it's litered with shitty android games and buggy messes. Dusk is the only good game made on Unity that I've played, and FlatWorld looks promising
olive cloud
Bruh you can say that about literally any engine
twilit quest
i mean, the only reason unity is used for asset flips and shitty games is because it's so accessible
and easy to use
which i see as a plus
woeful shadow
I don't watch CallMeCarson sooooo...
@crimson folio
Look up Carlson 3d
Its a game
made in unity
also on Steam
its really done well
amber sparrow
Don't get me wrong, If used properly Unity is a great engine, but it's litered with shitty android games and buggy messes. Dusk is the only good game made on Unity that I've played, and FlatWorld looks promising
@crimson folio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBFZ1KR8oVE
I get that the tracks are high quality but dang
The game has quite a lot of music
crimson folio
Y u ping twice
amber sparrow
DUSK itself doesn't require a lot of memory so using it for easily accessible music makes sense
To me at least
I wish the game itself had a music player of some sort
crimson folio
U can get the OST which has a player for the music
gusty flicker
love the DUSK soundtrack 👌
amber sparrow
I mean, the game itself could have one, it'd be kind of cool
thorn trout
Dusk is the only good game made on Unity that I've played It's very likely you've played other good Unity games but are not aware they're Unity games, because that's one thing Unity really screwed up
for instance, Cuphead is Unity
but way back Unity decided that the Unity logo would be a thing you have to pay to get rid of, which means that all the super low quality shovelware made in Unity has the logo at the beginning and most of the higher-quality games opt to turn it off
Also the long load times are my fault, not Unity's fault
I structured the audio system in a stupid way
i mean, the only reason unity is used for asset flips and shitty games is because it's so accessible it's really weird that stigma still exists because there are just as many asset flip UE4 games at this point
The actual reason a lot of Unity games have "Unity issues" is that the default solutions they provide for things are usually awful
like their prefab first person controller, which is responsible for the crappy movement in most Unity FPS
It's actually super easy to do good FPS movement in Unity but if you're not tuned into that specific thing and figure the default FPS controller is good enough you end up with awful movement
crimson folio
Distance is also a good Unity game.
thorn trout
pretty sure Lost in Vivo is Unity
quasi granite
we don't have to look outside NB discord to see good unity games
ultrakill and max ax are both unity
thorn trout
there are like a buuuuunch of Unity games of all sorts of production level. It's just that most of the time the higher quality ones don't advertise themselves as Unity games, because very early on that logo became the mark of a super cheap beginner project
Almost all NB games are Unity yeah
Gloomwood is also
willow drum
endless legend is a unity game
im pretty sure some of the other endless 4x games are also unity
thorn trout
It's a very flexible engine. It's definitely loaded with problems but tbh a lot of those aren't really visible to the end user and its reputation with gamers is mostly just a meme
willow drum
also Hi dave! I loved your work! Dusk was awesome. Cant wait to see what else you cook up
thorn trout
Thanks!
willow drum
||also, since e3ms was just a planescape torment reference, I've been dying to ask, Annah or Fall from grace?||
gusty flicker
Ori 1 and 2 are Unity as well, which blew my mind when I first found out
thorn trout
@willow drum you should ask @gleaming berry that!
willow drum
okey dokey!
sonic night
Oddworld New and Tasty and Soulstorm use unity iirc
compact haven
Why did the developers choose to release Dusk on Switch and not another console? Keep in mind I am very greatful seeing as how I only have a Switch and really looking foward to be able to play this this fall
sonic night
My guess is that ps4+xbox devkits are expensive compared to switch ones
As one reason
compact haven
Ok, was just curios
twilit quest
if any of you guys just go to the unity 3d website you can see tons of games made with unity
crimson folio
cus the switch is portable
cold bay
Yeah you tell em david 😂
outer nacelle
can you make endless mode maps for dusk
rancid basin
E3M9 is just Serious Sam right?
I've never played but after playing it and looking at Serious Sam gameplay
It's just Serious Sam right?
Big arena
Lots of enemies
outer nacelle
well you have jump pads
outer nacelle
also you can strafe properly
rancid basin
The S key
quasi granite
it was previously called "thing get serious"
rancid basin
Nice
I can't tell if I loved it or hated it
It was fun, but wow I was glad that it was over
ashen hedge
Ebic
quasi granite
It was fun, but wow I was glad that it was over
this sentence kinda describes Serious Sam
for me at least
rancid basin
I watched Civvie's video on them and I still don't know whether I want to try them
They seem just really niche
quasi granite
one tip
play TSE or TFE
2 is weird
and 3
...
we don't talk about it
or just wait 1 month for serious sam 4
untold vale
3 could have been much better.
It came out when the Modern Military Shooter was uber popular.
quasi granite
Croteam just reused some assets from cancelled military shooter that they were doing around that time
fleet flame
It'd be cool if Dusk got a DLC Expansion Pack of some sort. Ik the sdk exists and I might try it out soon but I had a fun idea for some sort of Cthulu mythos based episode (ik pretty original). The first few levels would be in a mainland area, oceanside town then an oil rig/some sort of research station in the middle of the ocean. Then the rest of the maps would be exploring the depths revealed by an opening in the ground near this site: A hidden bunch of tunnels, wet caves, ruins all with sickly aqua tints
thorn trout
Serious Sam TFE/3 and to a somewhat lesser extent TSE are all fantastic at what they do, but it's definitely for a certain sort of audience. They're better thought of as first person bullet hell's than traditional retro FPSs.
quasi granite
I never saw someone who like ss3 as much as the other ones
Did you like all of it? Even the horrible underground parts?
mild ginkgo
nobody likes the horrible underground parts
but the highs of sam 3 greatly outshine the lows
thorn trout
^^^
The horrible underground parts are horrible
the beginning isn't amazing but it gets blown out of proportion imo
The witch brides are also cancer
But when Sam 3 gets going it's arguably the most fun the series has ever been
my favorite will probably always be TFE tho
Also the "reused cancelled assets" thing is true as far as we know, but I think people have started to take that as "they were just lazy and threw them in without thinking" which I'm not sure is really the case. That was during the height of modern military shooter popularity and I'm pretty sure the joke of throwing Sam into a generic MMS setting and having it blossom out into a proper Serious Sam game was very intentional
mild ginkgo
yeah theres like , distinct moments in that game where it turns from mms into sam
and theyre so, so refreshing
rancid basin
So what I've learned is that if I get it I should get TFE first
simple pilot
buy TSE thats for sure
mild ginkgo
my ranking personally is TFE > BFE >TSE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ss2
simple pilot
TSE > TFE > BFE didnt played SS2
lean belfry
@quasi granite I completed dusk on "I can take it"
Btw can someone explain to me why it's a good idea to NOT put dusk on Xbox and ps4?????
I would deadass pay for the game again to recomplete it on xbox
lean belfry
Oh ok
mild ginkgo
its something we would like to do absolutely
mild ginkgo
not necessarily, but we certainly want to make it the best it can be
lean belfry
Oh ok
mild ginkgo
its something we're actively investigating
simple pilot
theres quite demand for new games on switch and playing dusk on the go is not a bad idea
lean belfry
Dusk is on switch no?
simple pilot
will be
lean belfry
Duude I really wanna play it on xbox
mild ginkgo
well, it was nice to do switch first anyways to learn the best ways to adapt to console
things like gyro aiming, a weapon wheel, etc
lean belfry
Yeah
And..
Holistering
Or however u spell that
In e3m9's "bug" what would u do about it?
mild ginkgo
just fix it
lean belfry
By enabling a button for holster or making shooting unholster?
When u press the left stick it does nothing so..
mild ginkgo
those + also weapon switching causing the unholster, like it normally does
yes it does, you walk with left stick
lean belfry
But if you press it 👀
mild ginkgo
you walk when you press it
lean belfry
No one uses that
mild ginkgo
but that might get changed a bit for the console release
its something we're still working on
lean belfry
Yeah
I kinda found it hard to jump from one wall to another w controller
Like..
When I turn and jump, sometimes it just makes me fall
I had to press it quickly twice sometimes
Which is hard to aim while doing
upbeat pecan
Is Dusk speedrunning still active or did I miss the boat?
ashen hedge
IDK if it is or not, but if you want to speedrun it, go for it. Never too late to speedrun a game
balmy sluice
Its for sure died down. But its still a fun game to run
last WR was set roughly a year ago
upbeat pecan
yea i was watching some of the stuff, but it was all a bit ago
Its got a nice cost of entry for running. Some games the learning curve is awful
looks like its mostly stayed in 2 categories, inbounds and out of bounds
crimson folio
For the most part we've got ib and oob, other than that, individual levels on intruder mode.
upbeat pecan
Thank god for no full game duskmare runs. That sounds awful
crimson folio
If you wanna be the first, go for it lmao.
Duskmare is its own category within ib/oob
upbeat pecan
Timing rules are just adding up the episode totals?
(for regular runs, not duskmare lol)
was reading them on speedrun.com
balmy sluice
I'm not sure. I only ever tried single level.
upbeat pecan
pretty sure thats how they do, i'll check the vid. But it seems like the most far since pc specs can affect load times
Its a single segment run using the in-game timer to add up the episode totals so menu and stuff aren't counted which is nice
cold bay
@upbeat pecan we have a speedrunning discord for dusk if you want to join. You can find a link to it on the speedrun com page. I am happy to help anyone that wants to get into speedruning dusk there ☺
upbeat pecan
Thanks, I'll check it out now
willow drum
the category that isnt
crimson folio
Funni meme category
Tbh would be interesting to see how fast it is
crimson folio
streaming DUSK EP3 in DuskWorld VC. Hard + Intruder modes. No Mic. Starts in 5 Mins. 
muted jolt
:0
crimson folio
By far my favorite lore tbh
crimson folio
I wonder if you shower with dusk soap it gibbs you
I would consoom dusk themed soap
twilit quest
so if big john is another deity
is he beyond the control of nyarlathotep and operating under his own motives
carmine birch
This has probably been asked before, but is the water splashing noise the same one from Minecraft?
balmy sluice
they use the same sound from a sfx pack yes
carmine birch
Thats pretty neato
crimson folio
IMO, Dusk beats Quake by a long shot, good job David.
signal flower
Story is basically doom. But with full 3d graphics
outer nacelle
i just went back to blood after putting 30 hours in dusk and it feels like my keyboard and mouse are covered in slugs
Dusk is simply so tight
reef pecan
im sure mr hulshult hears this every day of his life but the guy actually knocked it out of the park for dusk's soundtrack
like honestly my favorite tracks are just the ambient scary tracks like embrace the darkness and slippery slope to sanity or the quieter ones like flashbacks
half of dusk's atmosphere is just how good the music is
ember garnet
I prefer the Erebus reactor track myself
worthy spear
why can I use mousewheel down to jump in DUSK but it won't work in DuskWorld?
mild ginkgo
Its actually just not an available bind in dw
crimson folio
Any particular reason why not?
worthy spear
😭
mild ginkgo
that will be addressed in the SDK version
the reason is basically that duskworld was made before the scroll wheel bind was added to dusk
and that code never got ported lol
worthy spear
ok tyty
crimson folio
Makes sense lol
kind sigil
is there a reason why the cult decided to betray jakob ?
quasi granite
From my understanding of story: ||the Nyarlathotep decided that he wasn't worthy and sedn cultists to kill him||
kind sigil
bruhh
jade root
Yeah you hand his ass to him to nyaruko betrays him
brisk lagoon
||friendship ended with jakob
now dusk dude is my best friend||
ruby harbor
yooo
does anybody know when the DUSK physical collector's edition is coming out?
And where it will be available to buy online?
mild ginkgo
it actually probably wont be too too far of
f
now that we have a better idea of what we want to do with it
compact haven
Any chance of a Switch physical version?
mild ginkgo
yes
and by yes, i mean chance
not confirmed
but its something we will be investigating
compact haven
Ok, cool, thanks....I will keep my fingers crossed
crimson folio
simple pilot
the most hated action track
amber sparrow
why
simple pilot
why you ask me, i like it
prime sleet
Where's the best place to report bugs?
jade root
Steam forums
jade root
What’s the issue?
limber mica
A wild gog customer has appeared
tardy slate
gog pog
vague egret
crimson folio
gogchamp?
cold bay
that good gog gog
prime sleet
it's a minor one
on linux, the duskworld button crashes the game with a message about failing to find Duskworld.exe
creating a symlink with ln -s DUSKWORLD.x86_64 Duskworld.exe inside the game directory fixed it
I haven't tried Duskworld yet, but it's a bit glitchy, unlike Dusk
mild ginkgo
Yep we're aware of it
prime sleet
like the cursor keeps flickering to show my normal desktop cursor, even though this issue doesn't happen in dusk
mild ginkgo
it was fixed but got reverted
prime sleet
alright
hexed locust
yo how we doin
limber mica
im doin decently
crimson folio
Are there any planned expansions to Dusk?
jagged ferry
Eventually.
muted jolt
also finded a bug speedrunning
hump hump until crash
it's pretty funny cause i wasnt jumping but it's made the jump sound
mild ginkgo
lol
muted jolt
to complement, it's running lastest SDK Build
with a livespliter complement made by twan
i trink the speedrun WR user
amber sparrow
Dusk Dude has a heart attack
humble lark
ng+ on Dusk? sweeeett
cold bay
Do not speedrun dusk run on the sdk
I probably should update the rules to mention that...
crimson folio
Makes sense
tawny tulip
I consoomed the GOG sale. not afraid to admit mods pulled me towards this instead of amid evil
crimson folio
Gog users get an additional endless map
muted jolt
on what category?
cause there it's 100% and any%
and any% it's divided by inbounds and outbounds.
cold bay
current wrs for any% are 19:24 done inbounds by twan
and 15:30 done out of bounds by me
cold bay
there are no other full game runs in other categories at this time
tawny pebble
We should turn fighting intoxigator and son of intoxigator into a drinking game.
crimson folio
I dont wanna speedrun dusk
(Although ep3 has space for alot of time save)
I wanna find all the glitches
cold bay
be my guest. if you find anything new you can drop it in the dusk speedrunning discord
pearl imp
I was playing E3M4 yesterday. I got to the final room and nothing happened. I grabbed a couple items, hit the switch and walked out. That felt weird, so I looked it up and apparently two bone balls were supposed to spawn?
Is that a known glitch, for them not to appear? I wasn’t doing anything weird so idk what could recreate the issue.
cold bay
you have to pick up the hollow health in the center
pearl imp
I don’t recall if I picked it up. So not picking it up means they don’t spawn, but you can still leave?
cold bay
yeah. you just have to hit the button to leave
pearl imp
Oh okay.
Thanks
muted jolt
i remebmer a video about tips for speedrunning
Here it's a nice tip´s for a begginer runner
a little old, but hold some tricks for speedrunning
like x-bow spots
and enemies placement
this is for any%
cold bay
bruh
muted jolt
it's better to watch the most actual run too
but it's nice to hear some commented tricks
cold bay
Well then be sure to watch me at summer games done quick on the 16th where i will be running dusk oob with Commentary from Some Nerdy Noob, DuskDev, and El Oshro himself
crimson folio
I for one will be ready with lube
kind sigil
😳 imagine dusk but it had modern graphics
twilit quest
what will dusk look like in 2012
upbeat pecan
I like the low poly style of dusk because it lets my toaster run it well
wooden cape
flat juniper
After doing a search, it's Arsenal Overhaul - Clear Sky 2.0 for... Clear Sky.
likely with graphics mods like AtmosFear
upbeat pecan
stalker always really nailed the skies
lapis jetty
I'm fucking scared
I am NOT going down that damn basement
Also I didn't get a secret SSG in the earlier levels
jagged ferry
3-4?
lapis jetty
Yes
lapis jetty
This is the only game that has effectively rustled my jimmies
You know I'll just stick with Doom for a bit
wide bane
When you thought you're gonna gun down the monstrosities in DUSK but it decided to scare your pants shitless in the slowdown sections.
pearl imp
I call those fast skinny bois Scary Larry
next maple
I could buy one, but I don't have a lot of space.
hollow silo
well, im basically asking because im trying to "export" DUSK maps to social VR
next maple
Ohhh
hollow silo
and was hoping there were others that might be tickled by the same goal
next maple
That is pretty cool
hollow silo
Ive already figured out how to export the additive mesh
its just the retexturing is gonna be such a bitch
next maple
Idk how exporting maps works entirely but is there a way to bake the textures?
or make them go on easier?
replacing every single texture in the game is a big oof
hollow silo
that is really the question
so far I know that I can export meshes, but I havent quite fucked with tex yet
working on that
next maple
Dusk VR, you have to do the front flip yourself in real space
hollow silo
eugh, even d-hopping would fuck up most veteran users lol
Though I know a coupla of dudes who can pull of flips in vr
to me, that is the scariest thought
what happens if my foot hits the cable lol
lean cedar
@lapis jetty
lapis jetty
Fuck
lapis jetty
Just think of horrors as Pepe after puberty
@crimson folio that makes them even scarier
kind sigil
can dusk be considered a horror game ?
lapis jetty
gUYs thE vIOlin SonG
yea sure
Episode 3 becomes a fever dream
nvm it was just Departure to Destruction
fervent cave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6OBk9YBLQU This video made me want there to be a cock shotgun button that makes you lose one ammo and spawn a stray shell on the ground around you
thorn trout
lol "I got 57 more goddamn rounds in this four round magazine"
slate edge
he must have the same brand of shotgun as serious sam, doomguy and duskdude
fiery steeple
I did it, i completed Dusk on Cero Meido
well I came back playing the game after 2018 and yeah
crimson folio
Good on ya!
What did you think of episode 3?
fiery steeple
all episodes are good but I like some challenges
I think of ep3 well great
I last completed ep1 on december 7, 2018 I mean I played the game way before launch, so yeah
split salmon
I kinda wish Hurt Me plenty was a tad tougher, I dont remember dying at all on my first runthrough i think
fiery steeple
I remember playing the difficulty before cero meido for ep1, so I did cero meido on ep1 this year and same for other episodes
split salmon
I just did all on that difficulty the first time through cuz i was pretty new to the whole retro shooter revival thing
Only played Doom 2016 a few months before Dusk
fiery steeple
Ok
crimson folio
Cero meido is the perfect difficulty
Sometimes I think “I can take it” is just a bit too easy
fiery steeple
It just fits my playstyle
Which I die a lot somehow and pretty much moving around full speed is what I want, plus a good challenge
void anchor
Kinda stems from Doom, where the "default" difficulty is the second to last
fiery steeple
Yeah
void anchor
And the last one being (by design) unfair
crimson folio
any idea why my key display has disapeared on dusk?
void anchor
Resolution maybe?
crimson folio
yeah changing that and starting level again fixed it cheers
void anchor
Cheers luv
obtuse garnet
Does anyone know when Dusk is released on switch this Halloween will it be just the single player, or will it also have survival mode, online death match/team, and co-op campaign?
sonic night
It doesn't have that last one or second to last one as it is
hollow silo
wheat prawn
YOU CAN DESTROY WEAPON PICKUPS?
twilit birch
???
I guess the cheats can't be used with a autoexec.cfg, right?
it's kinda annoying to activate them again and again for each new level
prisma halo
Dusk has no autoexec file currently
The SDK will be getting one with the console update though
(but that said, autoexec runs at startup, not per level)
I guess we could add a setting to make cheats persist through levels though
twilit birch
that would be nice
obtuse garnet
@sonic night OK
crimson folio
any non cheese tips for jakob on duskmare?
besides shoot him and dont get shot
Shoot at him until he dies
graceful wing
send him to rat world
crimson folio
i get him to half health, an d the majority of the time its the machine gun or super that gets me
super hard to tag with the rivit directly, found a few moments where he runs straight towards you though
thjat fucking machine gun
wtf
crimson folio
Welp, beat Dusk on Duskmare after 80 hours. shit game do better next time.
Jk best fps since quake 3
graceful wing
now do it deathless
mild ginkgo
slow harness
Jk best fps since quake 3
simple pilot
Quake 2 was better tho
slow harness
unironically yes
broken forge
luckily its coming out this year
im satisfied
do i even have to provide context at this point
amber sparrow
send him to rat world
@graceful wing You mean cheese world?
crimson folio
to the rat world with you avain
amber sparrow
Ah he even said "non cheese"
Understandable
Is that "go to cheese world" thing a meme unique to NB discord?
hollow silo
My DUSKvr post did better than I had ever intended