dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

[amber sparrow]

I played through the entire game in 30 hours

[mild ginkgo]

ive never played it

[amber sparrow]

sad

[indigo heron]

[loud turtle]

I played the first two missions then dropped the game for like 5 months then beat the rest of E1 over the past week

[mild ginkgo]

Now do the rest!

[loud turtle]

Oh I will

I loved the back half of E1 especially E1M9 and E2 seems more like that

[mild ginkgo]

It escalates quickly from there

The game starts slow

[slow harness]

starts slow and ends up bad

macaroni art but unironically

[indigo heron]

what? i heard episode 3 is the best

and i honestly can't wait to get a more gothic looking location

[lament girder]

start of ep3 was meh for me, then it got really good till the wave mission

maybe episode 2 is my fave??

[runic nebula]

finished the whole campaign in a day

and nearly finished doing it again to get all the secrets the second day

[void anchor]

Jeez

[runic nebula]

and ofc the soap

also i missed some achievments real dumb style

i looked at the ||wife of intoxigator|| poster and didnt think to interact with it

[void anchor]

https://dusk.mod.io/jerma-rats

The only mod that matters

[jagged ferry]

rats
the rats
we're the rats

[void anchor]

We prey at night

[jagged ferry]

we stalk at night
we're the rats

[void anchor]

I'M THE GIANT RAT THAT MAKES ALL OF DA RULLES

[jagged ferry]

let's see what kind of trouble we can get ourselves into

[void anchor]

I love that video so much

[sonic night]

rats rats we are the rats

celebrating yet another birthday bash

MICHAEL

it's your birthday today

cake n ice cream, are on its way

and

MICHAEL
been suck a good boy this year

[atomic egret]

ICE CREAM AND CAKE

[lunar adder]

[random bison]

I wonder if it's possible to make an endless map with a an area unlock system like cod zombies

[indigo heron]

the map is a lie

[random bison]

What does that even mean tho

[indigo heron]

there is no meaning

[random bison]

Then why type that

[indigo heron]

[random bison]

wack

[hoary gazelle]

I have money because someone comissioned me.

How much is Dusk right now?

[indigo heron]

get the bundle

dusk with amid evil

[hoary gazelle]

I don't even have enough for the base game.

fuck

[indigo heron]

you got payed less then 10 bucks? :))

[hoary gazelle]

It was 10 bucks. :)

:.)

'ight i'ma yeet until I have enough.

[indigo heron]

i'm broke prety offen but when i get work it's payed pretty well, what did you get commissioned to do 10 bucks

:)))

i'm pretty sure a blowjob costs more

[hoary gazelle]

I got commissioned to make a play house out of timberlands.

[indigo heron]

i'm not sure what that means

[hoary gazelle]

Exactly what it sounds like.

[indigo heron]

you made a play house out of shoes?

it this the twilight zone?

[hoary gazelle]

no it's the fortnite zone

[indigo heron]

yeah, i never played fortnite nor i'm interested in it. how did you expect that anyone would know what you meant?

not all people play fortnite

anywho. if you build another playhouse out of shoes you can buy both dusk and amid evil (which is strongly recommend)

[sand geyser]

This games sick

[balmy sluice]

Well I hope it gets well soon. 🙏

[ebon radish]

i love it

[atomic bronze]

[random bison]

The perfect meme

Big John

[stable sedge]

[amber sparrow]

It was a must get for me too

[lament girder]

My dusk wendigo shirt came

Just in time after my night shift

Now to sleep in it

[maiden shoal]

Is there a way to bind multiple weapons to the same slot?

[graceful wing]

n0

[maiden shoal]

welp

[lunar adder]

Oh, im rat now

☺

[crimson folio]

Aw rats

[void anchor]

Rats

[crimson folio]

[amber sparrow]

I wonder if there's a way to hacc weird ass aspect ratios into dusk

[void anchor]

13:8

Don't even know what it would look like

[amber sparrow]

I tried to edit the INI but it didn't work

13:8 is pretty much 16:10, a tiny bit narrower

[quasi granite]

Hey guys i'm new here

[void anchor]

Heyo

[quasi granite]

Just played through dusk and the game was awesome

But i have 1 question - how to play custom maps? thre isn't workshop support and i saw ppl play them

[amber sparrow]

https://dusk.mod.io/guides/dusk-modding-faq

[quasi granite]

thanks!

[woven elm]

Wait, I know you

[quasi granite]

I know you too

We met on &%#^$ (idk if i can mention the name) discord

[woven elm]

Why wouldn't you be allowed to mention it 🤔

ooh! Touché, spam filter

[quasi granite]

that's why

but seriously tho some discords dissallow mentionting other servers cuz it's "promotion without permission"

[woven elm]

nah I didn't say gttod ;p

I think andrew is here too

that sneaky motherfucker

when are we playing dusk?

[quasi granite]

he isnt here i think

[vague egret]

He is

[woven elm]

nah he's not anymore :/

[vague egret]

Just isn't active here often

[woven elm]

Odd

[vague egret]

He is busy with other projects as well

[quasi granite]

he isn't here look @stray chasm
#3004

oh

[woven elm]

hahahah

[quasi granite]

lol sorry for ping

[woven elm]

nah we meant gttod andy, not hulshult

[vague egret]

[woven elm]

Too many Andrews

[quasi granite]

yeah

i know of like 3

[graceful wing]

Here's some life advice

Never trust an Andrew

[quasi granite]

w...why?

[woven elm]

never trust u

[stray chasm]

@quasi granite wrong Andrew, not that good at making music yet

What you got against andrews?

[quasi granite]

i wasnt even trying to ping Andrew Hulshult

I was tryin to ping Andrew Smith

[maiden shoal]

My computer really doesn’t like new blood games 😔

[quasi granite]

i'd suggest changing computer then

cuz it is fuckin crazy

[twilit quest]

Dusk should run fine iirc

It's not exactly graphically intense

[haughty viper]

yh unity engine isn't usually trying

[prisma cypress]

hey im new on the server, and I have dusk by 2019, i just want to share my endless mode gameplay if you want, thank you, im not really good so go easy pls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG0uqtotsW8&t=159s thanks!

anyway what time do you play duskworld? yesterday I found 3 people playing

[simple pilot]

#lfg-signup

[viral grotto]

i beat episode 3 in one sitting without deaths or save scumming

i love the movement in this game so much

[graceful wing]

Gamer

[ebon radish]

gaming

[viral grotto]

i deserve a t-shirt that says i survived e3m9

[atomic widget]

damn I suck at this game

endless is hella fun though

just got the wave 10 achievement hehe

is e3m9 the one with the gate watchers boss?

[viral grotto]

yea

[atomic widget]

oof I died so many times

[viral grotto]

e3m9 is the hardest level in the game

[atomic widget]

I would be inclined to agree

[tardy slate]

hello

[sick flicker]

who hurt you

[crimson folio]

Odd question but, are there maps for the missions? I'm recreating some in Hammer Editor for a mod and would like a layout instead of relying on going in game and trying my best

[tardy slate]

maps as if the actual files or graphical maps

[crimson folio]

i got to wave 27 at max. endless is difficult

[prisma cypress]

I got 20 waves

[amber sparrow]

I get the feeling that the cathedral could be taken very far on cero miedo

You can just keep jumping at full speed and run off the map

So you never get hit pretty much and the little damage you take can be outhealed via potions and the cigar

Also you sometimes take out a gun to finish off things that didn't die to infighting

[prisma cypress]

How do I can use the cigar?

[amber sparrow]

press 0

[prisma cypress]

It restores 1 health?

[amber sparrow]

You can use it every 4 seconds to gain 1 health, and you can use other weapons during the cooldown

[prisma cypress]

Oh nice

[amber sparrow]

You can just press 0 and click and switch back immediately to a weapon every four seconds

No penalty

Personally I'm glad it's in the game

[prisma cypress]

Thanks i never knew how to use it

[amber sparrow]

It doesn't overheal by the way

It's great in the campaign too if you want to recover while looking for secrets

[prisma cypress]

On the cathedral im pretty much a noob, my best is like 10 🙁

It's so difficult for me

[amber sparrow]

You can jump around, far from enemies, and jump off the edge to get teleported back

And get shit to infight

[prisma cypress]

Oh its nice

Do you want to see my youtube video? I have done like 10 waves

On the farm

It's my first vid on dusk that's why i survived 10, I wanted to do the video quickly

Anyway sorry for my shitty inglish im not from america or england :(

[lean cedar]

Don't worry bruv, your language is fine

[prisma cypress]

Thanks

[crimson folio]

by the time bone balls spawn shit goes bonkers on cathedral

also what is the gogatorium map, is it not finished or something

[simple pilot]

its the gog endless arena

[crimson folio]

i dont have it on my version

i had it before tho, but it wouldnt load

ok so its a map that comes with an exclusive version of the game

now i know

[lunar adder]

will there be big john's localization?

[quasi granite]

what is the story behind soap?

or is there a story behind soap?

[olive cloud]

no

soap just stronk

[amber sparrow]

David had the random thought that it'd be funny to make it do 1 billion damage. So he did that.
The end.

[void anchor]

Just a fun little detail

[quasi granite]

was expecting some dramatic story like David's uncle died after slipping on a soap but ok

[void anchor]

All the monsters are just stinky boys, and don't like cleaning themselves

[quasi granite]

main character is hygienist and this is his coma dream

he went to coma after slipping on a soap

[slow harness]

he dropped the soap

[crimson folio]

Will he pick it up??

[olive cloud]

no

he afraid of frogs

right?

and he hates rats so obviously he loves soap

[crystal niche]

Quick question, does the Linux build has been desactivated ? Can´t seems to download it, even when using the testing beta branch.

[near stump]

So... If I bought Dusk + Amid Evil bundle.. does that come with the ost of either? No? If no, guess I'll just hit up YT or Spotify

[void anchor]

Nope

[near stump]

RIP

That's what I thought

Also PIT is pretty interesting 👌

[simple pilot]

buy the intruder/warrior editions

[quasi granite]

i heard that dusk had BFG-like weapon at some point. Do we know what was it or how it behaved? Are there any pictures of it?

[ebon radish]

soap

[quasi granite]

yep soap is op but actual weapon with key assigned to it

[ebon radish]

soap

[quasi granite]

soap

[crystal niche]

🧼

[crimson folio]

Yes, soap, but what about the BFG-like weapon?

[jade root]

No screens or pictures

Was never even modeled or coded

[crimson folio]

Dang. Maybe it would've been something "ancient" in nature.

[amber sparrow]

I wish crystals of madness and soap could intetact

[slate glade]

is there a way to start a new level with no weapons like pistol start

[void anchor]

Yeah. intruder mode

You can tick it when choosing a difficulty

Starts you with only the sickles

[slate glade]

Oh I literally just found it after looking it up a ton and having to go to the menu and manually choose a level

thank you

[void anchor]

Good luck

[mild ginkgo]

@crystal niche no the Linux build works fine

Are you on steam or gog?

[crimson folio]

@tardy slate Sorry for the late reply and ping but, both hopefully

[eternal flame]

yeah it's v. cozy

[glass barn]

is there a way to view the map

in game/

[void anchor]

Pretty sure there's no automap feature

[sonic night]

There wasn't really one in quake either as far as I remember

[void anchor]

Yeah

[molten hull]

But it would be interesting to have one tbh

[glass barn]

is there some cheevo about soap

and nah i can see the map making the horror parts less creepy

like when your flashlight breaks and you're crawling through the meat tubes. which i just did

playing for the first time rn. Just got to ||superhot||

[junior drift]

Was there ever a big box for this game? I saw a twitter post talking about one but never saw a release.

[pearl thunder]

no, but NB wants to do a limited run at some point

[glass barn]

when it says "SAVE YOURSELF " and has a box of grenades in Escher Labs is that supposed to be telling me to grenade jump?

Because that seems like it would be very hard to do

the grenades bounce too much

[pearl thunder]

no, that's telling you to shoot whatever is on the other side

there is no place you need to grenade jump

[ebon radish]

you're overthinking the shooty boom-boom game

[dusty sky]

should i make a big john poggers

[pearl thunder]

...
heresy.

[dusty sky]

i disagree

[ebon radish]

do it, no balls

😎

[dusty sky]

i will when i have the energy to remove my body from bed

and open photoshop

[pearl thunder]

I am surrounded by heretics

[glass barn]

im just bad at jumping

also fuck me this next level

erebus reactor

[pearl thunder]

ohoho

welcome to hell

[dusty sky]

imagine dusk e4

[muted jolt]

how it's called the cross health pickup?

[pearl thunder]

in all seriousness take out the cowgirls first and mg everything else

use all your available firepower on them

[dusty sky]

mmm

cowgirls

[pearl thunder]

D4NUK1 it's called the hallowed health

[dusty sky]

love me them 2 extra-strength cowgirls

[muted jolt]

tranks, i don't see the article on the wikia

[pearl thunder]

curb your enthusiasm

[muted jolt]

im making a meme video and i need to know how this its called

[dusty sky]

never

[pearl thunder]

I see

scawtty, you are going to make some cursed shit aren't ya

[dusty sky]

indeed

that’s really my goal in life

[hearty thunder]

i love dusk

[muted jolt]

and dusk love you

Just for a little sacrifice in the reactor

[crystal niche]

@mild ginkgo Steam. Didn't get it on Gog via Gog connect at that time. I've did checked if i've haven't forced it to run with Proton, and also retried to reinstall it from scratch too.

[pearl thunder]

wait the GOG connect thing is still going?

thought that was a limited thing

[crystal niche]

This was limited indeed.

Rephrased my sentence.

[muted jolt]

https://youtu.be/0OX3S6s6lKg

Hard level goes hump hump

[hearty thunder]

i hated that level

so i used cheats on it

[twilit quest]

its fun though

; 3;

[hearty thunder]

haha level

get shrekt

[muted jolt]

that level it's the final point of learning every weapon a enemy

i liked very much

[sweet anvil]

I saw a negative review for dusk saying that the fact you can pick up some items and Chuck them at enemies to insta kill them is broken

Nobody's forcing you to do it lmao

[atomic egret]

yeah, we all saw it

minmaxers ruin games for themselves, nothing we can do about that unfortunately

[sweet anvil]

Yes

[crimson folio]

Props aren't easy to use, in a big battle. I dont know what that guy was on.

[cursive flax]

Props in this game are like an infinite ammo, instakill gun with a slow firerate and high innaccuracy. They're actually pretty balanced.

[sweet anvil]

Correct, and I tried chucking a barrel at a flamethrower guy on the beginning of 2nd episode and the flamethrower guy acted like nothing hit him

And then I died

[sweet anvil]

So, what do you guys dislike about dusk, if you have played it before
Personally I don't have any problems with it so far

@here

[crimson folio]

Spinning crossbow and sickles doesnt deal damage

My only problem

[sweet anvil]

Nice

[lament girder]

id say soap is balanced by it being hard to pick up in a clustered fight

[nova solstice]

Plus you usually have to go out of the way to find it

[zealous bluff]

tbh I think the real balancing factor is that 90% of the time it's quicker and easier to just shoot enemies

[nova solstice]

I just used it for like one boss I was annoyed with

I do appreciate though that r has your gun spin

I never really played old shooters so the newest doom was basically the first time I ever played a game without reloads so force of habit was quite a problem

It’s nice that it at least does something cool is what I’m saying I guess

[jade root]

ree people trying to use @ here

[amber sparrow]

So, what do you guys dislike about dusk, if you have played it before
Personally I don't have any problems with it so far
thermal suit not respawning

and my experience with E2MS because of that

[nova solstice]

Am I allowed to say a flaw is that I suck at it?

[jade root]

No

[nova solstice]

Ok fair enough

Though I do suck at it

[fervent cave]

Isn't there an option to run the game in slomo?

Or a cheat for a specific powerup to be on at all times

[mild ginkgo]

yes

NBHOT

[crimson folio]

SUPER HOT

[verbal solar]

Anyone know if/when the wendigo mouse mats are gonna be back in stock?

[crimson folio]

When Dave stops having so much to do
Nah I have no idea

[verbal solar]

Ah right no worries

[viral grotto]

only problem i have with dusk is that i want more

[twilit quest]

So, what do you guys dislike about dusk, if you have played it before
Personally I don't have any problems with it so far
Second ep is kinda poopy in parts, also the flipping can get really disorientating

Although the thresher is amazing

Escher labs is also um

Escher labs

My one issue with flipping is falling down a hole and being force flipped when landing because of looking slightly too far down, but that's mostly just me being bad

[round quail]

@twilit quest you can disable vertical flipping iirc

[void anchor]

Oh shit really?

That was very annoying in Escher labs

[hearty thunder]

i havent actually beat the game yet

i mean i beat it

but i used cheats on all the levels

so im gonna do a series on youtube thats me playing through dusk

[twilit quest]

oh its possible to disable it?

nice

like i love that its a feature

but my feeble brain cries sometimes

[sweet anvil]

Can mama duck off

Like right after I narrowly dodge an explosive I fall off the map

So annoying

[sand mortar]

just found out they got rid of the dusk community ranks

RIP

[sweet anvil]

Ight just beat the shit out of her, ironically the one where I didn't get my trap fully setup I won

[slender pecan]

dusk co-op when

[slow harness]

delayed for 1 week again

[slender pecan]

F

basically

[sweet anvil]

Wait dusk is getting co-op?

[glass barn]

(I know it doesn't matter im just asking for its own sake)
is Erebus Reactor still physically in or around Dusk? Why does this backwater town have skyscrapers?

[sweet anvil]

Idk

[void anchor]

From what i understand you leave dusk after the first episode

And after leaving it, you see a military complex in the distance

And that's when episode 2 starts

[slender pecan]

Ah yes, the facilities

[crimson folio]

dusk co-op yes
When sdk is done

[glass barn]

and the cult is harvesting human meat, to grind up and harvest for power which they then beam up to a floating island?

and also lava-power is part of this?

[crimson folio]

uhh I don't think the lava is part of that

[glass barn]

and they learned how to do this blood sacrifice power stuff from stuff they found in the ruins?

[crimson folio]

it's just there for the cool factor 😎

[twilit quest]

theres a story in dusk?

[slow harness]

all of the unexplained things are there for the cool factor

[glass barn]

and the military was originally anti-cult but then joined the cult? with a few guys outside the gates remaining sane?

"story" no but "setting" yeah, i think

[twilit quest]

arent they just possessed

i would think its just re4 but quake

[glass barn]

i mean, were they possessed when they made the lab and designed the wendigos and rocket ladies

and horses

[slow harness]

i was disappointed in how david explained all of the levels in dusk during the stream

[glass barn]

Which stream?

i wanna see this

[slow harness]

"oh this cool looking crypt with spooky things" "this facility looks pretty cool but it doesn't make sense but it's pretty cool"

the 1 year anniversary stream

[glass barn]

IMO one of my favorite little bits, (so far, still need to finish E3) is that portal that just randomly takes to to the inside of a whale carcass in space

[void anchor]

Music cuts out too for that bit

[slow harness]

@glass barn that's escher labs

[twilit quest]

is it in space?

[void anchor]

Think it's in some kind of alternate dimension

[crimson folio]

[glass barn]

[round quail]

[zealous bluff]

[void anchor]

[crimson folio]

[sleek cape]

[woven elm]

[wind tusk]

[vital stream]

[weak pecan]

[sly path]

[jade root]

[graceful wing]

[crimson folio]

Fireworks

Are amazing

[limber adder]

No

Dusk is

[crimson folio]

Hey dawg can I get some john

Only a spoonful

pulls out comically large john

Hey let me sprinkle some big John in you food

[lunar adder]

ahaha

[sweet anvil]

Anybody know when we get co-op for campaign

[prisma halo]

After the SDK is finished

[sweet anvil]

What's the sdk

[prisma halo]

Mod support

[vast tangle]

[lunar adder]

when the sdk is finished

before coop release

[atomic egret]

wtf was that

[uneven path]

is it just me or are the archmages projectiles super busted

the purple cultist i mean

i often get hit even when i passed it

[crimson folio]

It has a weird hitbox

But you can deflect it

[mild ginkgo]

They're also homing

[crimson folio]

Yeah

[mild ginkgo]

They can do like 90 degree turns

[crimson folio]

They can orbit you

I used that to kill some enemies in e2m1

[glass barn]

Wait so, is Duskdude ||from Dusk?||

Or is ||that house just from wherever he's from because it's magic mindscape bullshit?|||

[jade root]

What

[glass barn]

e3m7

[jade root]

Yes duskdude is from dusk

[glass barn]

so he wasnt there for treasure?

[jade root]

E3M7 is a tiny bit of back story

[amber sparrow]

I don't think he is from Dusk

[jade root]

No he is

[amber sparrow]

wut

[near knot]

Duskdude is a treasure hunter

[jade root]

Ohwait the town dusk

[amber sparrow]

yes the town

[jade root]

Thought you meant the game lol

[glass barn]

.......

Dusk Dude is clearly from Halo

[jade root]

No he isn’t from dusk iirc

Listen man we get some stupid people in this server

[near knot]

[jade root]

I’m used to answering obvious obvious questions

[glass barn]

ok, so he's from somewhere, and then his family died, somehow, and then at some point he got the brilliant idea that there might be buried treasure buried under a small town in rural PA

[jade root]

Yes

[near knot]

Precisely

[glass barn]

or.....honestly a city in rural PA if Erebus Reactor is any indication those are skyscrapers

i actually got dizzy playing e3m7. it would have been fine but the unlocked Y axis and the flipping around means you cant even rely on the face that your feet are downwards

[jade root]

You can lock the y-axis if you need to

[near knot]

I personally like the flipping

[glass barn]

i do too usually but not in Homecoming

hell im not even really mad at the dick move there of quickloading resetting your location

like your progress is saved but on load Jakob plops you back in the sky

[crimson folio]

I found a few out of bounds stuff in e1m3

In the intoxigator bossroom there's a small intoxigaror out of reach but visible

[glass barn]

Is it Son of Intoxigator?

[crimson folio]

I got there by breaking out of bounds and floating there with crossbow, and he actually attacks you too

He isnt killable tho

[glass barn]

if he's purple then its Son of Intoxigator

[crimson folio]

He looked like a smaller intoxigator

Same colour and all

[glass barn]

rich lore

he watched you kill his dad 😦

Duskdude is the real evil

[crimson folio]

Yeah yeah he is out for revenge at e2m9

[glass barn]

to get a cheevo do you need to just get all the secrets or do you also need to kill everyone

[crimson folio]

Idk

I also found 2 black boxes with cultists inside out of bounds in e1m5 and e1m7

I guess they're teleported for certain events

Like the hunting rifle pickup

[glass barn]

i mean yeah enemies spawn in, it makes sense that they're all stored out of bounds beforehan

[crimson folio]

Yeah

They also have a kill box around them

So no getting in

[amber sparrow]

I don't think DUSK needs to store enemies somewhere

That's DOOM and stuff

And pretty sure doom can also create enemies, but perhaps not enemies that are part of the kill count

Like, pain elementals can create lost souls and stuff

[broken forge]

hello, dusk?

[crimson folio]

Yes

Dusk

[broken forge]

Thank you, have a nice day

[graceful wing]

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[silent echo]

godly

[graceful wing]

Avain Knowledge resolved this as done.

[glass barn]

Lil Brudder is the best enemy type imo

[indigo heron]

@broken forge duck

[broken forge]

FUCK

[woven elm]

🦆

[shrewd trench]

Where the hell is the exit for e1m3 or whatever

[void anchor]

There's a crack in the wall in the room with the intoxigator

You can crouch through it

[shrewd trench]

Damn really? I looked all over that room and couldn’t find anything.

[void anchor]

Kinda hard to spot at first

From the entrance to the room, it's at the at complete end, on the left wall

[hollow siren]

How easily do you guys find the secrets? I don't spend a whole lot of time looking for them, I just kind of find them as I go, but I'm only getting about 1-3 average.

[crimson folio]

Enable noclip and see anything you didnt check

Also, if you see misaligned textures on walls that might be a secret door

Certain vent grates can be broken,

And cracks in walls can be blown up

[amber sparrow]

There some cracked walls have cracked textures even without the cracks though

So have fun finding any of them, I couldn't

[crimson folio]

Yeah true

[amber sparrow]

THose are bs

[crimson folio]

Oh yea I forgot some misaligned textures are not hitbox and you can walk through them

Like the secret SSG

In e1m1

[amber sparrow]

E1M6, E1M8, E2M9 and E3M1 have those unspottable cracks

Only spotted the last one because it's hinted at by the environment

The others are not

Maybe E1M8

The remaining 2 you won't find probably

[crimson folio]

I forgot about my flashlight in e1m6 and I had to navigate with the flash of the pistols

It was a nightmare

[amber sparrow]

I actually looked for cracks where the cracks were but still couldn't see them

[crimson folio]

Those are weird

[amber sparrow]

I wish that wall texture was a bit less noisy so you could at least spot cracks by looking

[crimson folio]

I use noclip or break out of bounds to find big secrets like no texture cracks

[amber sparrow]

E2M9's is the most evil, it's on the floor, in the dark, against the bad texture

[crimson folio]

Yeah I used out of bounds to find that one

[amber sparrow]

E2MS's sword secret was another one that I hated because I reasonably assumed that the thermal suit would respawn, since it's a "get to places you otherwise wouldn't be agle to get to" powerup just like the climbing thing

[crimson folio]

Theres a sword in e2mS? Didnt know that

[amber sparrow]

But for some reason that I don't understand, it does not respawn

[crimson folio]

Hey I'm a rat now

Weeee

[raven wolf]

lower price to $5 and i will buy this

instant

[atomic egret]

no

[raven wolf]

otherwise no

ok bye

[simple pilot]

i won't miss you

[amber sparrow]

@raven wolf maybe someone would buy it for you

but it's a purchase you probably won't regret for the price it has

even if you do, you can get request a refund on steam in two weeks if you don't play over 2 hours

[jade root]

How about getting a job

I recommend that

[amber sparrow]

Might not be old enough or something

[simple pilot]

i have a job but still wouldn't be able to buy dusk now

[crimson folio]

Cooked viscera literally heals more than a health pack

And you can get it more often than you think

As long as there is fire and viscera in a level its available

Even barrel fire works

[atomic egret]

takes time to pick it up, find a fire, cook it and eat it though

[amber sparrow]

You can also smoke for 2 minutes to gain the same amount of health

[atomic egret]

good old minmaxing

[void anchor]

How tf does smoking give you health

[amber sparrow]

good old minmaxing
@atomic egret Hey I actually really like that shit

I played on CM and I appreciated having the ability to get my health back

Sometimes I brought myself up to 100 from below half health by smoking while looking for secrets and it was great

Also is that actually what minmaxing means

[void anchor]

Well, it mostly applies to rpg's and the like, meaning to make yourself the absolute best you can possibly be, even if it is just 1% better

So it kind of fits

[amber sparrow]

google says it means something else

[void anchor]

Then i dunno

[amber sparrow]

anyway I was very happy I had the option to use the cigar to get my health back slowly when I was hurt

you need a bunch of health on CM for shit not to kill you in 1 or 2 hits

so I think grabbing what you can is reasonable

and I had fun doing so so I cannot complain at all

[void anchor]

Yeah

I just kinda forgot it even existed for 90% of the playthrough lol

[amber sparrow]

in fact I probably would have liked the game less without the cigar

I'm also pretty sure making it heal was sort of a deliberate decision and not just a meme

and it makes sense to me, it was great

I've read that it used to restore morale and it got changed, so game balance was probably considered at some point and it isn't just a random unintended exploit

And 100 health on CM isn't an unfairly huge amount to have, most attacks will still kill you fast, usually in two hits

[void anchor]

Gotta keep moving

Best way to mitigate damage is to just not take it after all

[amber sparrow]

I do, but I can get hit once or twice, so it's nice to have health

[void anchor]

Yup

[amber sparrow]

I just love tha cigar healing

It allowed me to play on CM and play this like a survival game and not a "load save 10 times in this level" game

Which was fun to me

[void anchor]

Love the image of Duskdude exploring a level for 10 minutes smoking a cigar all the time and just healing fractured bones or smth

[amber sparrow]

Yeah that was me

And I liked it

[twilit quest]

every time i think of dusk i just think of erebus reactor and fucking cry

thats my favorite level to hate

i love it so much but hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[void anchor]

Don't really care much for it tbh

It's not badly designed or anything

Just don't like big, open maps

[twilit quest]

oh that and the errrr

[void anchor]

And the lava is basically a death sentence

[twilit quest]

the level that starts you out vs two turrets and opens up into a large arena

with some leathernecks

[void anchor]

Even if bunnyhopping makes it feel easy less damage

[twilit quest]

it might be the level before the thresher?

i havent played dusk for months what are names even

[amber sparrow]

Erebus Reactor was one of the maps where my survival playstyle wasn't too great

I normally don't like to replay anything, but Erebus Reactor is something that can be replayed pretty well

While it kinda sucked when I played through

[twilit quest]

yeah its one of those levels thats like

yes its good

but

i dont wike it its mwakes me mwad

[amber sparrow]

It's a fun map to sandbox around in

It wasn't difficult, it was just scary with the cowgirls so I sort of just cheesed it so it wasn't too much fun

But it just looked scarier than it was

Cowgirls aren't actually that dangerous, just scary

Because the first encounter with one is super chaotic and results in certain PTSD

[twilit quest]

my favorite thing is dying on a level 20+ times because of my own ineptitude

literally just jumping off a cliff or gibbing myself

[amber sparrow]

I wish the Mama fight was different

It doesn't ruin the game but I don't think it's a strong part

[twilit quest]

i really liked that fight

replaying it isnt fun though

well it is but idk

[amber sparrow]

I didn't like it my first time either

[twilit quest]

the thematicness of it is really cool

but i really like jumping off the edge 10 times

[mild ginkgo]

so i find that the fight is much more enjoyable if you dont walk into the pit

so if you just dont do that, its pretty solid

[twilit quest]

yes

[amber sparrow]

Yeah it's spook but then it's actually not just spook but also certain death and "wtf was that i'm never going near a thing that looks like that ever again"

[twilit quest]

not killing myself is a key part of winning

[atomic egret]

you're so foolish

walking into the pit

[twilit quest]

i just, really want a weapon that will completely and totally accidently kill me at full healthy if i so much as blink wrong while holding it

maybe i should learn to mod and add that

rivets? pfft

[amber sparrow]

Mama also doesn't take damage from the barrely in the map

[twilit quest]

what?

i thought she did

[amber sparrow]

The barrels are only there to kill you

[twilit quest]

at least i remember she did

unless im remembering wrong

[amber sparrow]

She doesn't, but she can catch fire

[twilit quest]

ah ok

[amber sparrow]

Which kills her in like 2 years

[twilit quest]

so she does technically but not really

[mild ginkgo]

she takes damage from them

[amber sparrow]

Nope

[mild ginkgo]

ok but thats not true

[twilit quest]

i remember cheesing the fight by stacking the barrels against the door

[amber sparrow]

Also no self-damage for her

[twilit quest]

opening it, and wallbanging with the spooky bow

crossbow*

still died a bunch though lol

[amber sparrow]

I tested and she took no self-damage, nor barrel damage

[twilit quest]

huh

[amber sparrow]

Just gotta start blasting

And not get hit

And not fall off

[mild ginkgo]

she takes damage from the barrels

but yes no self damage

[atomic egret]

so anyway I started blasting

[amber sparrow]

Scott I really don't mean to be mean but I tested and she didn't take any damage from barrel explosions. Idk if my game can be corrupted in a way that does that

There was that other time where I said grenades were unaffected by player momentum in DW, I didn't want to be mean that time either 😦

I just test a whole ton of shit in games from time to time

[mild ginkgo]

ah ok, you shouldve specified, you said barrels

not barrel explosions

she takes damage from barrels

and like i said, player momentum does effect it lol

its just a different formula

and nobody called you mean lol

[twilit quest]

meanie

[twilit quest]

what is she mad about again?

oh you know what, i might have damaged her with barrels by them being thrown from an explosion

idk if thats a thing that can happen though

[mild ginkgo]

nah i dont think it is

and like perci said, the explosions dont hurt her

[twilit quest]

hmmmm

weird

i might be remembering it wrong then

probably just fire damage

[mild ginkgo]

its possible theres a way to cause them to hurt her

[twilit quest]

again, few months ago

[mild ginkgo]

would have to check that

[twilit quest]

wait, is it possible to get past that boss fight without killing her?

[mild ginkgo]

yes

[twilit quest]

oh alright

[mild ginkgo]

you just grab the key and leave lol

[twilit quest]

the game is too easy you can just skip boss fights

/s

[amber sparrow]

Death is too certain in that fight

[mild ginkgo]

yeah every boss fight but the last 2 are skippable

[amber sparrow]

Also explosion damage doesn't scale with difficulty

[mild ginkgo]

no it does not

its flat completely

[twilit quest]

i remember that being super irritating in warframe, a game with heavily scaling enemies

so at higher levels a barrel would do 2 damage to a level 100 enemy but eat half of your health

[mild ginkgo]

lol

[twilit quest]

but that isnt dusk so meh

[mild ginkgo]

perci is right, it probably SHOULD

[twilit quest]

also now that i think about it

[mild ginkgo]

but eh, its a pretty minor part of the game

[amber sparrow]

I have this assumption that it's because all explosive damage is treated the same, at least in some ways.
But then there's Mama, who takes damage from player projectiles' explosions but not from other explosions, so that's weird

It seems to be pretty much the only case where explosions from different sources are treated differently
(ok, maybe she's not the only boss with that attribute, but you get it)

Even pacifist awards treat prop explosions the same as rivet explosions and thus they void the award

funny

[mild ginkgo]

thats roughly correct yes

the guardian is the same way

thats also why explosive damage doesnt scale

because itd make the player mega op

[twilit quest]

is it possible to scale barrel explosions separately?

[mild ginkgo]

i mean we COULD do that

[twilit quest]

man this all makes me want to try to learn coding again but then i remember why i didnt like coding

[mild ginkgo]

but thats not the way it ended up being programmed

[twilit quest]

understandable

[mild ginkgo]

its exactly as perci described

all explosions are the same object essentially

[twilit quest]

ohhh alright

[void anchor]

They also deal the same damage on all difficulties right?

[mild ginkgo]

yep

[amber sparrow]

It's funny

On CM, Big John's grenades do the same damage as his bullets

[twilit quest]

on cm i just shoot big john through the wall

[quasi granite]

is there a way to avoid big john's bullet on CM?

i shoot him through wall and then riveter spam him

or just soap him if i'm not feeling it

[amber sparrow]

Distance helps

Or you can do some mad trickery and get outside the level for a crystal of madness and befriend Big John with it

[quasi granite]

distance is not my playstyle

[twilit quest]

if im not killing myself and everything around me with a riveter whats the point

[amber sparrow]

distance is not my playstyle
u gotta

Or you can accelerate to max speed and get closer without taking a ton of bullets

Hunting rifle's good shit

[void anchor]

Hunting rifle is the finest weapon in the game imo

Very useful and versatile, and it just feel amazing to shoot

[crimson folio]

you can escape through the hole in the ceiling in erebus

With crossbow, fast fire totem and riveter

[eternal burrow]

what is the world record for the highest wave on endless?

if anybody knows

[balmy sluice]

What difficulty and map?

[crimson folio]

Probably ridiculous

After a wave there are the same enemy spawns for every wave

And you have the cigar

[balmy sluice]

If it's anything other than duskmare, I can tell you it's a waste of time trying. Because people have gone pretty high.

[crimson folio]

I personally got to wave 27

I couldn't complete the first 5 waves on duskmare

[balmy sluice]

I've got to 18 on duskmare on farm.

[crimson folio]

Also imagine if bosses like creations spawned after like wave 25

Or Duke boys

[balmy sluice]

That would be cool.

[crimson folio]

I went that far thinking that would happen

But I can imagine the map was too small for something like that

[balmy sluice]

Another problem with trying to find a record is that someone could easily be using auto aim or cheats. It's hard to verify runs.

[crimson folio]

True

Is there a way to break the e1ms skybox?

I wanna exploit that map

[balmy sluice]

Define "break the skybox"

[crimson folio]

I try to break maps so I can beat em fast

But e1ms has a skybox blocking you

[amber sparrow]

you can escape through the hole in the ceiling in erebus
@crimson folio tried that with cheats and that didn't seem to be the case

[balmy sluice]

Oh, you want to just go out of bounds

[crimson folio]

Yup

You can escape through the hole in the reactor roof

[balmy sluice]

Have you watched the world record speedrun?

[crimson folio]

Yeah

[balmy sluice]

If there is a way out, it would be there.

[crimson folio]

But maybe there are unfound exploits

Also I escaped erebus without key by crossbow recoil

[balmy sluice]

Those guys have a whole discord for dusk speedrunning last I heard.

[crimson folio]

Sheesh

[balmy sluice]

I left it a while ago though

[crimson folio]

You can escape erebus reactor without key witha crossbow and fast fire totem

After rocket jumping

I'm talking about the hole in the reactor ceiling, not the skyscraper section

[amber sparrow]

pretty sure I've tried and hit an invisible ceiling but I'll check again

[crimson folio]

Rocket jump into crossbow for max height

I'll give a video of it tommorow if I'm online

Or if you dont manage it

[balmy sluice]

@eternal carbon yall still into dusk speedrunning?

[amber sparrow]

wait ur right wtf

I managed to make "A View From Below" play while Big John is shooting up erebus reactor

being my friend

[crimson folio]

Yeah

Wait where did you get a crystal of madness

[amber sparrow]

lol he's trying to shoot a turret from the other end of the map

[crimson folio]

Cute

Does the effect run out?

Also did you do the ceiling thing

[amber sparrow]

yes

it led me to an even better big john experience than when I got out of bounds in a much trickier way (still with cheats)

so thanks

[crimson folio]

Anyday

I love dusk, but I also love breaking the game

[amber sparrow]

I guess I could do this without cheats too somehow

though it would prob need a blue key

[crimson folio]

Use cheats to see above the skyscrapers

I wanna see what's above

The reactor

[amber sparrow]

I want to come up with a legit, hilarious big john experience that can be achieved without cheats

[eternal carbon]

@balmy sluice nah wrist pain made me stop a while back

[amber sparrow]

Like, somehow get the keys without killing anything big john could kill by himself, get the superhot powerup so it aids in jumping out the hole, and jump out the hole, leave red door closed, befriend big john, open up the reactor to get atmospheric music, watch carnage

[balmy sluice]

Ah, sorry to hear, twan.

[eternal carbon]

thanks, i still enjoy casual gaming but my wrist was just not meant to hit space bar thousands of times in a row :p

[balmy sluice]

I feel ya. Nah, these guys were talking about map exploits and was just curious about the speedrunning scene.

[amber sparrow]

yay saves don't remember powerup status

fucking cowgirls

[amber sparrow]

Like, somehow get the keys without killing anything big john could kill by himself, get the superhot powerup so it aids in jumping out the hole, and jump out the hole, leave red door closed, befriend big john, open up the reactor to get atmospheric music, watch carnage
geez this is hard

also enemies will inevitably infight and leave little job for big john

[viscid timber]

Hey does anyone know the default/factory fov

[amber sparrow]

110

Also it means horizontal FOV, regardless of your aspect ratio

So for ultrawide 110 is quite narrow

[limber mica]

yeah but what FOV does the screen cover in your actual irl vision

the goal is actually to have it smoothly match with the world around you

to reduce headaches

so that it's as if the screen is an actual portal into the virtual world

[viscid timber]

Thanks

[glass barn]

man fuck Cowgirls

[limber mica]

delet

[prime kindle]

how does one not suck at this game

[sonic night]

use controller for very forgiving auto aim

if Pat is able to beat the game with a controller, everyone is able to beat this game with a controller

[muted jolt]

Use weapons the right ways

Spamming

[round quail]

you can turn on auto aim assist if you want

no shame in it

[muted jolt]

[crimson folio]

learn how to strafe jump

you go way faster and you'll slowly gain enough dexterity to perform other maneuvers.

[crimson folio]

bro all you gotta do is dodge

[thin sorrel]

Just beat dusk...DAMN

great work to everyone who made it

[crimson folio]

bro all you gotta do is dodge
^

[twilit quest]

Strafe hopping and aim is key

As is situational awareness

That's probably the most important thing, knowing the enviroment and enemy placement

Especially so you dont go hopping off of cliffs and into lava like I do

[sonic night]

No, do hop off of cliffs and into lava. It helps you learn how not to do it again

But if you can avoid doing it to begin with it's better

[mental tiger]

got dusk and amid evil from the summer sale last week, played a decent amount of AE before jumping into DUSK and holy fuck this game feels so good

played multiplayer first tho and it is rad

[amber sparrow]

yeah but what FOV does the screen cover in your actual irl vision
the goal is actually to have it smoothly match with the world around you
to reduce headaches
so that it's as if the screen is an actual portal into the virtual world
@limber mica It's not like that. That would mean you'd have to play with super narrow field of view in every game. My screen's width usually takes up about 30 degrees of my vision, but the adequate horizontal FOV in games is around 100 degrees

It's only narrower for consoles simply because the screen is far away and things might look too small

There's absolutely no such relation between how much of your vision is taken up by your screen and what FOV you should use in a game

[lunar adder]

[crimson folio]

[crimson folio]

One way I use to dodge projectiles is to slide sideways

Its satisfying as fuck to do

You can even crouch under projectiles and watch them fly above you

[amber sparrow]

how does one not suck at this game
@prime kindle Jump around like crazy

Distancing yourself usually works well

also https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/374852069137580033/720294371479519252/FULL_SPEED.png

I don't think there was much need to actively dodge attacks

I mostly just distanced myself, tried to get the enemies to group up and infight and stuff

[crimson folio]

Yeah that's easier

But sliding can come in useful against fast moving projectiles

Or closing distance quick

[amber sparrow]

anything that fires fast moving projectiles you want to delete within 1 second

[crimson folio]

Yeah like boner monks

[amber sparrow]

I was thinking of cowgirls

[crimson folio]

Yeah cowgirls too

They're like the cyber demons of dusk

4 rivets do the job

[amber sparrow]

Only way I ever dealt with them was by casting my Four Rivets spell

[crimson folio]

Or just bait them to infight

[amber sparrow]

deleting them asap is tha safest

[crimson folio]

They dont appear often

[amber sparrow]

their mere existence is a threat

[crimson folio]

But yeah they can destroy you fast

[amber sparrow]

yeah that's why you can afford to rivet them all

[crimson folio]

One thing to note is to stay away from walls when facing a cowgirl

The explosions can delete you fast

[amber sparrow]

Best thing to note is never to face a cowgirl and instantly remove them from existence with rivets

Only place where that's not affordable is E3M9

But there you can just jump off the map continuously until they destroy each other

[crimson folio]

Oh yea e3m9 cowgirls killed me many times

I never used the jump off trick bcz I never fell off

I abused jump pads instead

When keepers arrived after all that shit I paused the game and got a coffee

[amber sparrow]

I had to discover the falling off part when the grand wizards came

after that I think I didn't die

[crimson folio]

Grand wizzies are a big priority target 4 me

I can never dodge their homing fireballs

That's why I hate the thresher heart section

Too many wizzies in a close space

[woven elm]

Can't you deflect them?

[amber sparrow]

not worth trying for me

often 3 of them are grouped together and that's 120 damage

[woven elm]

hm. I wanna test something.

projectile speed is faster on CM, right

[amber sparrow]

yes

for enemy projectiles, that is

interestingly, projectile damage and speed are determined by the difficulty setting at the time of firing

so switching difficulty while a projectile is on the way won't change anything about that projectile

I have no idea what the actual speed scalars are

enemy speeds are also altered, although I'm not sure if that's for all enemies

however enemy movement speeds are continuously updated so switching difficulty will make a leatherneck faster / slower

A guess for projectile speed scalars would be 0.5x, 0.75x, 1x, 1.5x, 1.5x

Or maybe 2x on the latter two

[simple pilot]

why dont you ask someone with insights into code, david, scott or zombie

[amber sparrow]

I like guessing

[woven elm]

because it's fun to theorise

[amber sparrow]

also I just noticed that grenades ignore backwards momentum too

so it's only forward momentum that matters

[crimson folio]

Did you notice that enemy speed also affects how high jump pads propel them?

Leather necks get bounced high because they move fast

But fork maidens get bounced very little by the pads

[amber sparrow]

lol

[prime kindle]

how do you beat dead of the night? i get so close with the boss and then immediately die, get sent to the beginning all over again.

how do i avoid the homing fireballs?

[jade root]

you can quicksave, you know that, right?

also try bunny hopping

[prime kindle]

no of course i didnt know that

[jade root]

hold w+d or w+a and jump

and keep jumping

youll gain speed

[prime kindle]

i know what a bunny hop is

[jade root]

thats how i avoid the fireballs

[prime kindle]

how do i save then.

[jade root]

also F5 or F6 is quicksave

F9 should be quickload

[crimson folio]

how do you beat dead of the night? i get so close with the boss and then immediately die, get sent to the beginning all over again.
This level is pretty easy to beat

About the boss you can just run and bhopping around

[prime kindle]

well before this i was playing without savestates.

this made things a million times harder than they ever needed to be.

[prime kindle]

In unseen, the demons are stuck on the ladder that i need to get up on. Dang.

can you kill the demons or are they invincible?

[jade root]

the invisible dudes?

yeah you can kill them

you can kill every enemy

[simple pilot]

jab lies here

[crimson folio]

"you can kill every enemy" have fun bro

[amber sparrow]

You can't kill every enemy

[prime kindle]

which ones cant be killed?

[amber sparrow]

Oh wait it was about a specific level

You can kill every enemy in Unseen

[jade root]

what enemies cant you kill?

[amber sparrow]

Last level

[jade root]

thats a boss

and you technically do kill it

so

every enemy

[amber sparrow]

You don't kill the very final enemy tho

[jade root]

you defeat it

you drain its hp to zero

[amber sparrow]

*1

[jade root]

0

[amber sparrow]

1

[ebon radish]

-1

[jade root]

-10

[amber sparrow]

0.5

[crimson folio]

But why would you want to kill daddy squid boi

[jade root]

he drank ur choccy milk

[amber sparrow]

is that part of the lore

[crimson folio]

But he gave me green lightning powers

Kinda below blue lighting

But still pretty cool

[amber sparrow]

but what if it's custom color lightning and nargle just happened to prefer green?

[crimson folio]

Nargle has rbg lightning

[amber sparrow]

as opposed to rgb

must be fancy

[balmy sluice]

who said thats an enemy?

[crimson folio]

Sorry guys it's ||John Romero on a stick behind a wall texture||

[slate edge]

i wish that was the Eternal boss

[frozen ermine]

I love how all classic fps games have the protagonist get his life real messed up in the end

It’s like poetry

[quasi granite]

not all

Duke Nukem's life didn't get messed up in the end

[simple pilot]

Duke Nukem Forever

[prime kindle]

what is the name of the enemy that sounds like a squeaky wheel?

[flat juniper]

Priestess I think

the one with the spikey head and sword?

[prime kindle]

no, the tall ladies that spam explosives

[amber sparrow]

cowgirl

[flat juniper]

oh yeah

[prime kindle]

i hate them with a burning passion

[flat juniper]

They are the absolute worst on Cero Miedo

[prime kindle]

im stuck in As Above, So Below with 2 HP and two of those guarding where i need to go

i cant do anything

[flat juniper]

all projectiles are fucking supersonic speed on that difficulty, including rockets lmao

[prime kindle]

im on nomral difficulty

and i hate them so very much

YES one of them blew themselves up

[flat juniper]

just gotta save your riveter ammo and expend them all on them

and grenade launcher ofc

[prime kindle]

yeah thats the only way i could ever kill them, but with 2 HP and not a lot of rivets, i was toast unless they killed themselves.

and they did

[void anchor]

Just noticed, is the "NOOOOOO" scream you do when ||you get flushed down into E3MS|| the same as the one in Amid Evil?