this man is an alien
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
jade root
vythern not everyone is a nonhuman
spare cobalt
welcome our alien overlord Vythern 
jade root
who can easily convert to esoteric control schemes to destroy people in a dead multiplayer
opaque spindle
lmao
small halo
mouse for jumping is understandable at least
spare cobalt
yea pretty common to bind jump in m2
or scroll button or something
but if vythern shoots with Q does that mean you just have to circlestrafe him in the right direction to beat him?
sounds like a PREETTY big flaw
royal herald
I just have this flawless ability to put my fingers anywhere on the keyboard at any time
spare cobalt
just to dusk
tho thats better than where my potential went to: drinking beer and shitposting
royal herald
I'm getting better at other retro fps games, specifically the multiplayer, my aim is just garbage so I have to rely entirely on the 
spare cobalt
never were that good in those MP's
sure anyone can nuke a scrub but that doesnt say anything
royal herald
I overcame my fear of temple mystica without getting a nosebleed like the last tournament and conquered krizar
woven elm
But I really want to hup with authenticity
So you seriously don't fire with the mouse?
royal herald
I do not.
long story short brick uses melee weapons more often than guns in borderlands.
woven elm
Guess I played brick wrong
small halo
maybe he did
can't trust those aliens
spring cradle
Shooting with q is crazy
Not sure if more cursed than my friend who uses his mouse upside down and presses the buttons with his palm area
waxen crane
that is pretty cursed
woven elm
that some madcunt level mouse operation
spring cradle
yeah, the precise moment you stop laughing about it it becomes impressive
royal herald
because your mind is no longer clouded by the emotive response to "upsidedown mouse"
regal egret
Imagine if he aimed by flicking the light under his mouse with his palm
spring cradle
at least his deskspace would be optimized and would save money on a mousepad
limpid bridge
Google wasn't helpful; did dedicated servers ever launch? (selfhosted )
mild ginkgo
not yet!
theyre currently only for our use for various reasons
but by the time the SDK mp is ready, both with be available
slate edge
Dusk RTX when
livid plume
I always gotta split up my gameplay. Still havin a good time.
I think I'm near the end of episode 2, and it's wild.
jagged ferry
every episode has 10 levels, not including the secret level
livid plume
Oh, so I got a few levels then.
I liked the turn it took at this point. Erebus Engine is the stage I stopped on as I just got in
arctic crane
How do I unbind weapon switching on scrollwheel? I would like to bind individual weaps to mwup/mwdown
mild ginkgo
Previous weapon and next weapon are the binds you are looking for
fickle bay
decided to pick up dusk after leaving it alone since 2018 and it's still good
my game library made me forget about it
regal egret
Can you play dusk on geforce now
crimson folio
Can I get dusk on my DS
brisk lagoon
i'm holding out for the ps1 port
crimson folio
I want the GameCube port please
Honestly I heard the GameCube wasnât a smash hit and I was shocked
brisk lagoon
Nothing could be a smash hit when it's up against the PS2.
brisk lagoon
I had a GC, but not many games for it. My library was mostly Xbox and PS1. đ
crimson folio
I want a new paper Mario or a redux of the thousand year door
brisk lagoon
But I did have both Metroid Prime games. That shit was so cash.
crimson folio
Iâve played all 3
Beaten 1 and 3
Need to beat 2, which is the longest one in the series
brisk lagoon
Imagine Tim Sweeney wasn't going batshit insane. Now imagine a new Unreal game with progression and exploration like Metroid Prime.
Drooling yet?
crimson folio
We donât have to imagine because theyâre making Metroid prime 4 
brisk lagoon
God only knows how that'll turn out. 
crimson folio
None of the prime games have been bad
Metroid games that werenât prime were eh but none of the prime games were bad
It was confirmed at E3 2017 so theyâve had at least 3 years of progress
woven elm
even prime:hunters was a good time
brisk lagoon
It's just that I'm pretty sure the old guard responsible for managing the first three Prime games is gone from Retro.
Not that I don't trust them now, but they're also having to pick up the pieces left by Bandai Namco on top of that.
crimson folio
I donât think so?
I mean I doubt the original people who worked on Zelda worked on breath of the wild and it was still great
brisk lagoon
Just gonna have to wait and see.
amber sparrow
I have a feeling that grand wizards' fireballs are broken and they home better on easier difficulties
You get that if you lower the speed but don't change how they turn
Didn't test though, just a feeling
Even if they don't home on the player better, they linger around for longer for sure, and that doesn't necessarily make things easier
mild ginkgo
they arent broken
its by design
they move slower, and do less damage
tracking is the same, but by virtue of it moving slower yes, their tracking would be "better"
lingering longer is placebo
they arent hitting a wall as fast due to them moving slower
regal egret
I always thought they track way better on harder difficulties, where the fireball just zaps past obstacles to hit you
sneaky lil devils
royal herald
as long as they're not revenant missiles who cares
woven elm
closest analogue
summer jacinth
when we gonna get Maximum Action weapons in Dusk
royal herald
pretty sure that is done already
royal herald
I don't play the singleplayer anymore nor maximum action so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference anymore anyways.
gilded moon
how do i activate dev console? autosaved in a bad place now im stuck ):
amber sparrow
You don't need to use the console for cheats
You just press the keys in order
But for the console, you need a keyboard layout that has a ~ key, which is to the left of 1
So the button below esc
For me it's a 0 because my keyboard is Hungarian
I usually rebind the console in other games for that reason
gilded moon
ok thank you it is just that whenever i try to activate the console it doesnt show up i have the ` key but it just doesn't activate. thanks anyway
crimson folio
DUSK doesnât have a dev console yet.
As far as I know.
Havenât messed with the SDK yet
formal root
WOW the spinning hallway in infernal machine looks fantastic!!!
crimson folio
It was truly epic.
That hallway was when I realized how much I loved the world and style of DUSK
formal root
just finished esher labs. really cool stuff that can be done in this engine
cant wait for full sdk
im thinking descent 6dof stuff
summer jacinth
Escher Labs is one of the coolest things in recent gaming
simple pilot
i was thinking about making 6dof controls permanent when scripting will be done for sdk cuz theres already 6dof while diving
its not great 6dof tho
formal root
its good enough
yes, you can't roll, YET, but once you can roll you got it all
just need to bind q and e to roll controls, rebind use and youre set
or z and c if youre a wanker
simple pilot
yaw and pitch thresholds would be nice
formal root
sommersaults is probably my favorite thing in fps gaming ever
jagged ferry
q to shoot e to use?
q for ropes e for fire
formal root
ropes?
regal egret
What are these bindings
amber sparrow
Escher labs is just doors, I think
thorn trout
Pretty much yeah. It's a simpler trick than a lot of people think.
summer jacinth
Yeah I noticed that Echer Labs basically just takes the same rooms and changes the geometry when you're not looking
The decals from shooting scenery objects are still there
Or at least they were when I played it, maybe that got fixed in a patch
brisk lagoon
Impossible spaces in Dusk would be a great mindfuck, though.
livid plume
Escher labs was a simple and elegant solution to an effect you wanted to portray
amber sparrow
Yeah, it doesn't make it any less amazing
Also I am not very good at identifying what these things are. đŚ
queen coral
I wonder if actual non euclidean escher labs would feel any different, it already feels alien and twisted enough
amber sparrow
I was okay with the level being at least somewhat comprehensible
BTW I was afraid the whole time I was playing the game that it would pull something unfair on me
Maybe because of other games
And I was very strategic the whole time, abusing AI wherever I could
Most notable was Erebus Reactor, where I just walked around above the enemies, making them group up, and used the mortar to kill them
Games have conditioned me to behave like this
Perhaps HL2 and its episodes, and old Doom stuff
queen coral
game is only unfair if you're doing Duskmare
and even then you can mostly get around by being really fast with your hups and keeping constant track of your surroundings
crimson folio
That looks like a baphomet
amber sparrow
Cowgirls are what really made me not touch the ground on that map ever
The game was more horror for me than shoot, which isn't necessarily bad
All the stuff really scared me.. I didn't die much on CM though, since I was so afraid all the time I didn't take risks.. yay...
I really wanted to figure out how cowgirls signaled their attacks but couldn't see it
I was too busy trying to remove them from the game as quickly as possible after they had already killed me twice within about zero seconds
Cart dogs, bone monks and cowgirls were the enemies I hated the most
crimson folio
@amber sparrow what does that image have to do with DUSK
crimson folio
Thatâs a baphomet in the wave
amber sparrow
Spectogram
livid plume
Oh it has pictures in the wave
bold sand
cart dogs aren't even that bad if you use choke points and strafe effectively. I use the mortar on them
amber sparrow
*spectrogram
amber sparrow
I used the mortar intentionally on like two maps in the entire game
crimson folio
I hate that weapon
bold sand
mortar's a weird weapon because it's so underused but so useful
amber sparrow
um
amber sparrow
You don't get it outside Rachael's secret until E1m3
bold sand
which is why you want to get the secrets
amber sparrow
I mean, you don't get it until much later
Okay but Rachael's secret isn't really to be taken seriously
Idk why it's part of the secret counter, I think Lavender's isn't
bold sand
I mean, if it's in the level, it's in the level
maybe I should stream a playthrough, I wouldn't mind playing the game again
amber sparrow
BTW in the dev commentary they said that Dave thought the rats would be good targets for demonstrating the AR...
bold sand
There's gonna be augmented reality in dusk?
oh, assault rifle, gotcha
AR is terrible against rats imo
you have better chances with the shotgun
amber sparrow
Yes, that's why I don't get it
That demonstration actually made the AR feel super weak, not strong
bold sand
that part about "more rats, more rats, more, more, MORE" was funny
AR is actually very useful in combination with the super shotgun to take down the tankier enemies
bold sand
like try the combo on a horror or a red wizard
amber sparrow
I did use that a lot
amber sparrow
One of my favorite things was holding left click with the AR and then pressing the key for the SSG while holding left click
bold sand
yep
amber sparrow
Also a shave and a haircut with an SSG finish is a variation on that
Works with mario theme too
thorn trout
small halo
literally unplayable
crimson folio
So you're telling me it's better than an assault rifle?
fickle bay
I like the hastefire rune because it makes the pistols a decent weapon
crimson folio
Trash game
Itâs not like Iâve put hours into it or anything
It's not like I beat the game on CM or anything.
No I swear bro the 100+ hours wasn't from subsequent replays and secret hunting bro no stop it
Totally not Like I genuinely Enjoy duskworld or anything
old slate
It's also a belt-fed machinegun with no bullet links
the bullets are being held by prayer entirely
on another note...
what did the old Riveter look like?
mild ginkgo
bad, mostly
old slate
are there any images?
mild ginkgo
There's a YouTube video somewhere
tardy slate
i wish the riveter looked like a shitty pipe
like that's it
rockets just come out of it
reload? what's that
opal plover
David Szymanski's voice was always my headcannon voice for Gordon Freeman
jagged ferry
mine is still ross scott
limpid bridge
Dope, thanks @mild ginkgo
crimson folio
Mine is still _ _
crimson folio
But is the same as beating Plutonia on Ultra-Violence or Nightmare, pistol start.
regal egret
I should try beating the game in invader mode
gilded moon
where am i able to download the dusk sdk?
twin wadi
guys, did you have a problem with constant scrolling in main menu? Singeplayer
is there a solution to it?
and mouse cursor is stuck in one place
cloud quiver
sounds like a broken mouse
twin wadi
everything is fine in other games or PC overall
royal herald
sounds like something that happens to me and is then promptly fixed by alt tabbing out and then back in
idk if that's what is happening to you
royal herald
is this something that happens every launch?
twin wadi
yep
twin wadi
ye, haven't tried that
royal herald
Your mouse cursor shows up on screen right?
royal herald
might be an issue with fullscreen/windowed mode then; see if you can fix it that way
I'm not a dev though, but I think they recommend posting on the steam forum
twin wadi
was trying to search a similar problem but the only one i've found was with the reply from a dev that they will fix it very soon
it was in January of 2019
thank's shillbot, very cool
spare cobalt
you better be thankful
twin wadi
i am, as you see
spare cobalt
just making sure. carry on
twin wadi
i got rid of that annoying menu cycling
but did anybody have a problem with customize bindings menu? it's just empty. i mean i know i can edit everything through the ini file, but i don't really know how mouse buttons called
spark mountain
dusk demo
tardy slate
funny how 1% of players have the "dont drop it" achievement but 2% have the "true 100%" one
actually wait
the true 100% one isnt "all achievements"
i'm a dumbass
crimson folio
No itâs o
sour stratus
Throws a few barrels through teleporter. Goes to do something else. Note that I might telefrag myself on the way out. Indeed I did teleport into a barrel but at least it didnt kill me
10/10
sour stratus
Good job me. Jumped here from out of bounds. Now Im stuck https://i.imgur.com/WZGf4ty.png
sour stratus
Except still not on Linux...
regal egret
Dont drop it achivement is harder simply because you dont know which soaps you missed
sour stratus
Oh I see it hasn't showed up on steamdb yet. I guess I'll check it towards the afternoon and see if it shows up
regal egret
When is coop planned to be released?
slow harness
After full sdk release
regal egret
And that would be about when?
amber sparrow
"SOONâ˘"
prisma halo
Whenever it's finished, unfortunately it's not really something we can confidently predict
Too many factors
amber sparrow
I study computer science engineering pretty much only because I want to program stuff and understand it.
RN I cannot make anything
But I think I'm on my way.
regal egret
Youl get there eventually
amber sparrow
Basically I never had a basis to build upon when it came to computery stuff, and a basis is being built.
I sort of feel like programming basics could be taught in schools
Yet they aren't, at least not in Hungary
Anyway... so I can't really make mods for Dusk anytime soon, but I wish to do so someday.
I mean proper mods that change gameplay and stuff, once that becomes possible.
I would like to make my own games someday. Though I am afraid I couldn't come up with an original concept with proper execution
My motivations are more about fixing what's already given than creating something new.
Or reimagining the same stuff
quartz pine
I'm not sure 'original' is really something that modern developers can easily execute these days. Absolutely go for something refreshing if you can, even if it seems like every game out there is a a plucky-and-borrow amalgamation of at least 4 other games, if not a direct inspiration by one exceptionally fantastic game.
Starbound's lead developer was an artist with Terraria. Terraria seriously took off on launch day as a result of following Minecraft's popularity. Minecraft was inspired by the likes of Infiniminer. Infiniminer, by the likes of Team Fortress 1. TF1 itself a mod of Half-Life. And so on.
jagged ferry
Infiniminer, by the likes of Team Fortress 1.
wait wait wait what the fuck
how the flying fuck do you go from tf1 to infiniminer
quartz pine
Hang on let me fact-check again. I briskly googled that one.
amber sparrow
What if MC is TF3
jagged ferry
me and the boys trying to decipher the connection between tf1 and infiniminer
quartz pine
According to the author Barth, it was based on the earlier games Infinifrag, Team Fortress, and Motherload by XGen Studios. Barth wrote Infiniminer in his spare time, with the help of a friend, and released it in steps of incremental updates during AprilâMay 2009.
I quote that.
jagged ferry
oh, there's other games it's based on
quartz pine
Yeah I probably shouldn't refer to.
jagged ferry
ok well
cloud quiver
yeah but i like dusk
simple pilot
Dusk more like
tardy slate
the late evening game
simple pilot
Doo Doo Sk
cloud quiver
that one game with soap in it
jagged ferry
that one game that isn't an imsim but the showers have water particles with physics and you can cook things because...systems
dry mauve
the one that calls a cat a "demonic creature" which is 100% true
simple pilot
what if you can boil stuff by filling pot with water by use of shower and then leaving the pot above fireplace 
all in game in real time
dry mauve
cool, an hour to devour a viscera
amber sparrow
Btw is Duskdude a cannibal
Or is that like goat meat
Goat brains
Why can't he just lift goats and throw'em on the grill
Whole
Does he only accept cans of hash and intestines and brains of unknown origin
Also eating that shit saves you like 3 minutes of continous smoking for health
So it's pretty useful in some situations
cloud quiver
duskdude eats glass bottles
amber sparrow
what if it's not bottles but solidified beer
cloud quiver
he'll still eat them whole
regal egret
so he eats whole bottles of bear and the empty bottles just leave through the other hole
amber sparrow
uh
cloud quiver
Those empty bottles become riveter ammo
slow harness
I'd like to refund dusk. What are the refund policies for dusk?
amber sparrow
If it's on Steam, I believe all games work the same in that aspect
thorn trout
We will issue a refund if you provide video proof of being unworthy
untold vale
How does one provide proof of being unworthy?
sour stratus
But the message says SOON NO MORE
Doesnt that mean it's released?
Last update is still 14 days ago https://steamdb.info/app/519860/history/
sour stratus
Oh 14 days ago the pwdrequired was taken off. So nothing was needed for the anouncement now?
So that means still no SDK for Linux :( I see the bits are there but any word on when that might release?
sour stratus
frosty bolt
Wait so we can play Quake in Dusk? Does it mean it contains the quad damage powerup along with that additional almost unexplainable sound effect when firing? If not, then it's a bug New Blood has to fix. It's not an omission, it's a bug.
sour stratus
@frosty bolt It's the equivilent powerups
And enemies
So the quad damage in E1M1 is the fast fire
Soldiers for the grunts
One thing that throws me off is having to hit interact for the doors/buttons
Unlike in Quake where you could just bump them
quartz pine
Most viscera in Dusk is next to human bones, (or blood trails to human bones) and the first level sends the message that, probably all viscera you eat is people.
small halo
when can we pick up and eat enemy gibs
real fractal
who want play now in multiplayer?
sour stratus
Wait a second, there's no auto saving in Dusk right?
No auto save at level start. FUCK. Lost all the progress from yesterday
:(
jade root
ye
gotta save manually
though im pretty sure theres autosaves at the start of each level
sour stratus
I'll have to check. Im on another computer and maybe they just dont sync
jade root
probably
sour stratus
Sadly no
[parker@wolfcola ~]$ ls /run/media/parker/dd64c0b4-4357-4847-8ca1-ef83f5fc2244/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Dusk/saves/
[parker@wolfcola ~]$
That's on the other computer
graceful wing
no mid level saving
sour stratus
It seems to not even save start of level
graceful wing
level progress and medals etc save automatically though
graceful wing
head back into level select. you should be able to pick up from the last level you cleared from there
also unfortunately i can't remember where the level save data gets saved to under linux (it's a different file from normal saves)
sour stratus
config/scores?
graceful wing
yeah, there
sour stratus
Ok Ill transferring that over to this and see if it picks it up
graceful wing
if it doesn't you can always ask around here for someone to give you a save that's close to where you left off
sour stratus
Honestly I dont recall and I was on Go Easy. I probably need to do a fresh run anways lol. Wasnt that far in
@graceful wing That worked! Thanks https://i.imgur.com/wiifp65.png
Is the path counter clockwise?
sour stratus
Oh Im dumb I see the numbering now
đ
Dont recall the loadout but I guess I can play around with that
Because that doesnt seem to persist
note to self save baby save
graceful wing
just treat dusk like a bethesda game and you'll be set
sour stratus
You severely overestimate the games I've played/skill :P
Oh good I just cheesed the E1M10
Pot shots from the top of the stairs
twin wadi
do you guys know how long does it take for them to answer on customer support?
the only time i wanted to play dusk again and it's fucked up
sour stratus
What's going on?
twin wadi
menu cycling and empty bindings list in-game
sour stratus
Tried clearing out everything?
twin wadi
i've tried everything i could. and everything that could lead to it
sour stratus
So nuking entire game folder and reinstalling even?
twin wadi
dude. i've managed to get dark souls to work. when it was with games for windows live
i think i've tried everything
sour stratus
I was just asking...
twin wadi
am just sad
sour stratus
Seems weird that would persist after completely wiping the game
graceful wing
most of NB is at PAX atm
ask away on here though. somepne will probably be able to help you out
twin wadi
oh, i see
was asking just yesterday. no one had a proper solution so far
although i managed to somehow get rid of menu cycling, it's back again today
graceful wing
@prisma halo u woke?
twin wadi
the interesting thing that duskworld works absolutely fine
sour stratus
@twin wadi I wonder. Phantom controller maybe?
twin wadi
Vjoy wasn't working by the time i was launching my game
sour stratus
Or something plugged in hidden under something in the room
Sometimes the dumbest thing is a keyboard/controller with something laying on the button
twin wadi
i've tried those as well
i can try one more thing, but if it's gonna work, im gonna kill myself proly
sour stratus
And not in multiplayer, hmm
@twin wadi Any luck? (On the input thing not the death...)
twin wadi
nah, nothing
weren't the old saves
they were outdated, so i was praying to the gods
well, that's just sad
gonna wait for response from the devs on steam i guess
sour stratus
Clearing out the config inis as well?
twin wadi
simply deleting it?
sour stratus
Yeah. It should recreate
@twin wadi You can also check the local log to see if that says anything
unity3d/David Szymanski/Dusk/Player.log
twin wadi
nothing
twin wadi
nah, vjoy wasn't working and that's it. i need that app, so can't really delete it
sour stratus
Is it showing up under the system Game Controllers? I would try removing whatever is there whether it be physical or virtual to rule those out
twin wadi
what do you mean exactly? like game controller preset?
i mean i have controller set to off through ini
twin wadi
yeah, and? i have xbox and 2 of vjoys virtual controllers
sour stratus
Im saying unplug Xbox and try removing the vjoy temporarily in case something there is messing with it
twin wadi
all controllers are unplugged
if i really need to remove vjoy. well, it's just a pain in the ass honestly
sour stratus
Honestly I dont know. Basic troubleshooting for anything would be removing variables one by one
twin wadi
ok, so now it's working. somehow, i dunno
basically, i checked my usb ports/drivers for all of the controllers via windows and closed a driver for a steering wheel
gamer moment
sour stratus
Hah yeah that'd do it. Makes sense actually since the y value for the steering wheel is always at the absolute min
-36xxx something
twin wadi
i was doing the same except for issues check on ports yesterday. didn't help
luckily, i can edit bindings as well
twin wadi
never had an idea what vulkan is
sour stratus
Like DX12 but actually cross platform
Vulkan API version 1.2.128
Vulkan vendor=[ATI] id=[1002]
Vulkan renderer=[AMD RADV/ACO POLARIS11 (LLVM 9.0.1)] id=[67ef]
Vulkan device type 2
Vulkan driverversion=[0x05000000] uint=[83886080]
Vulkan PSO: Cache data successfully loaded [size=8196,path=/home/parker/.cache/unity3d/David Szymanski/Dusk/vulkan_pso_cache.bin]
Begin MonoManager ReloadAssembly
- Completed reload, in 0.045 seconds
requesting resize 1920 x 1080
Using native desktop resolution 1920 x 1080
requesting fullscreen 1920 x 1080 at 0 Hz
Desktop is 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
InitializeOrResetSwapChain 1920x1080 samples=1
UnloadTime: 0.416000 ms
Setting up 2 worker threads for Enlighten.
Thread -> id: 7f9b0cd40700 -> priority: 1
Thread -> id: 7f9b0c52b700 -> priority: 1
Unloading 6 Unused Serialized files (Serialized files now loaded: 0)
UnloadTime: 5.547000 ms
Its actually around 140fps
Inopportune screenshot lol
twin wadi
yeah, 2gb gpu here, not for me ig
sour stratus
Hmm it helps anything. RAM doesnt matter
broken forge
hello, switch port?
graceful wing
soon
twin wadi
free fps boost no registration needed free
broken forge
understandable, have a nice day
woven elm
wait hang on
you can force vulkan in linux?
sick find @sour stratus
aw you're using mangohud too :)
sour stratus
Yeah :) I switched to that after that screenshot (thats just the built in Mesa overlay)
woven elm
đ
sour stratus
Was surprised to see everything working. Overload for example can be forced as well but some of the textures weren't compiled for Vulkan so some effects/particles are giant purple blobs
sour stratus
I have not but I do make sure CPU is already on performance when plugged in heh
woven elm
Ah I was alluding to the wattman functionality for your GPU :)
It's really nice for polaris and vega
you need to set an argument for it in grub though
sour stratus
Yeah ppfeaturemask
Already set
[ 0.000000] Command line: initrd=\intel-ucode.img initrd=\initramfs-linux.img root=UUID=57a5534c-722b-480d-8a64-f9daa10f8ed1 rw quiet ec_sys.write_support=1 amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffff7fff intel_idle.max_cstate=1
woven elm
really missing it on Navi, I don't think the interface has been finalised for it yet
there's a third party one available which uses similar syntax
sour stratus
Problem is for this setup the GPU is the least of my worries. CPU 2c/4t with craptacular cooling that constantly bumps 100c on perf. On top of that the GPU is via Thunderbolt 3. So it's doing as much as it can
woven elm
ah damn :/
woven elm
how much was the enclosure?
sour stratus
I got the laptop and enclosure from IRC friend for $800 total
woven elm
ah sick
sour stratus
Home desktop is an i7-3770k 4c/8t, 16GB, and an RX 480 8GB :)
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all multi booted with fedora 31 and AME
need to get us some dusk stickers
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Nice
woven elm
oh they don't sell any :/
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@woven elm With the three builds it looks like 3 levels of hell (in a good way lol)
woven elm
đŹđ§ đľ
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Current motherboard is different: P8H77M
And that SSD died
So it's on a WD Blue 500GB now
woven elm
the outgoing board from that HTPC had the strangest form factor
said ATX but looked odd
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"Premium Alloy Choke"
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That's almost as bad as MSI's "military grade"
That's an oddly short boi
Oh wait
Thats the current... Trying to remember what newer board I have
Aha H110M-A/DP
woven elm
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It's a low end board but itd still be an upgrade from what I have
woven elm
well it looks sick
sour stratus
Found it pretty much new for $20
Because who the crap keeps the CPU plastic insert
lol
woven elm
nah you need that for RMA's in a lot of casses
sour stratus
Yes but I mean 99% of the time it gets tossed
vague egret
as much as i enjoy this convo, we're getting off topic
crimson folio
i love dusk so fucking much
spare cobalt
what a shitty taste you have lol
royal herald
yo I found a bug
which no other soul on earth has ever experienced
if you bind your attack button to something other than mouse 1 and set your melee to mouse 1 like me then it's possible that you can swap weapons fast enough to where the buttons get switched
eg I quick swap to melee then back to hunting rifle (holding mouse 1) and then the hunting rifle fires even though I never pressed my fire button
brisk lagoon
We need more QA teams in this world with people like you.
red lion
Is Dusk planned to get a sequel/DLC?
abstract skiff
Dusk is awesome...
glacial charm
erebus reactor
from the highest point of the map
from an out of bounds building
quartz pine
Oi, sounds like someone else is discovering some nutzoid things about weapon-swapping, time for me to share something.
If you have a sword, you can swap to your sickles by using Quick Melee. But if you immediately swap to any other weapon, you instead quick-melee with a sword. You can strike with the strength of your sword, at the speed of your sickles. It's stupid and super useful.
Doesn't work during Fast Fire though.
I have 1 bound to quick melee. So then I just press 1, then, say, 3 for my super shotgun. The sword flashes on the side of the screen and decimates the target. After the strike, you equip whatever weapon you'd swapped to. Very fast way of killing many Leathernecks with a sword and a lever-action shotgun.
quartz pine
Oh, no, see, when you have a sword, you equip the sword by default when you press 1. Quick melee still equips the sickles. That, and quick-melee to bust out sickles, has zero wind-up to deflecting projectiles with them.
jagged ferry
i'd ask if my joke was even sarcasm but that's delving into philosophy and fuck that shit this is new blood
sour stratus
@woven elm https://flightlessmango.com/games/6903/logs/107 bit better on the desktop
narrow oar
https://clips.twitch.tv/EphemeralSassyDotterelPRChase Anyone know how to fix this?
livid plume
Erebus Reactor was such a cool stage
crimson folio
what folder would i be looking for to reset all settings back to default in dusk, anyone remember that?
simple pilot
Steam\steamapps\common\Dusk\config
crimson folio
thank you sir. much appreciated! @simple pilot
simple pilot
hah.
twin wadi
what's up guys, nameless here
again, my fucking menu have decided to continuously cycle itself and things that have solved problem yesterday aren't working today
thx for coming to my ted talk
broken forge
what if duskworld wasnt like
like multiplayer deathmatch
instead its super mario world but its dusk world
earnest cloud
Now that you mention it, dusk and mario are so similar
graceful wing
that'll come once the sdk is more feature complete
till then you should be able to run it with your compatibility layer of choice
sour stratus
Hmm? I mean I can already run it via Steam Play with the Windows version
But if it has native, I prefer that
Also ShillBot confused me the first time I saw it as I thought there was legitimately a new announcement
Nope, it just shills two weeks after the public SDK release
lol
graceful wing
it posts the latest major announcement on loop for the new folks that join here
sour stratus
Ahh
dry mauve
i just wish there was some kind of quick guard button where you could guard with the sword while wielding your guns
jade root
ModItIn
quartz pine
Pff. Imagine if Duskdude picks up a Hallowed Health, it makes him bigger.
wheat zinc
bigger target
quartz pine
Then he just instantly dies on Duskmare difficulty.
abstract skiff
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-02-28-gog-didnt-tell-devs-about-its-new-refund-policy-and-many-are-worried-it-could-be-abused Mr.Szymanski talks to Eurogamer!
quartz pine
If you make a great game with community support, you have much less to fear than if you're some money-grubbing jerk who's fishing for whales. Besides, the alternative is piracy and resulting DRM - and we know how totally effective and not at all disruptive they are.
royal herald
I think calling someone a money grabbing jerk for wanting to design a simplistic game just to keep food on the table is unfair.
modern musk
viral gate
This is the discord for DUSK... but yes there is a subreddit as well
swift nacelle
Ooooh boy do I hate hearing the wendigo's breathing last minute before getting mauled from behind by it-
Also, fun fact, if you turn off toggle crouch and rapidly press the crouch key while moving forward, you go into what I call "The Eternal Slide"
regal egret
2D dusk when
amber sparrow
Is there absolutely no health recovery in endless besides potions and smoking?
royal herald
there are a few health kits around the map
I don't think they respawn though
in my cero miedo to wave 20 farm run, I never saw any more than the given healthkits at the start
also screw scarecrows
relevant repost
opaque spindle
just dodge the bullets lmao
crimson folio
slide under
opaque spindle
^
jade root
Imagine dying to the most inaccurate enemy in the game
crimson folio
anything can kill you if you get overwhelmed
crimson folio
let the enemies shoot them
simple pilot
before they schĂźt u
jade root
Vythern bouta slam dunk me
royal herald
it took me two tries to reach wave 20, the first time I died on wave 19 to a scarecrow.
jade root
Oh nvm
royal herald
that's why I made the meme
crimson folio
you just need to lure all the enemies into a pile and whittle them down
or use nbff and nbullets
royal herald
also @jade root statistically I think they're the "most accurate" in that a larger portion of their attacks will deal damage, even if most of the attack itself misses
there is your dunk
jade root
I can usually reliably stand still and have the bullets go around me
crimson folio
slide towards them and use the super shotgun
royal herald
I'll get to testing that theory later tonight.
small halo
stand still
proceed to get killed by every other enemy
small halo
just block everything with a prop bro
small halo
if only a metal barrel wasnt the only prop on the farm
in the other 2 endless (idk about gogatorium) you can find indestructible props
unless they fall off the map 
queen coral
Using explosive barrels as defensive props is a legit strat on DM, tested and approved
amber sparrow
the farm feels claustrophobic to me
crimson folio
all the survival maps feel that way
amber sparrow
The cathedral is open af
And you can jump off the map like in the penultimate level of the campaign
crimson folio
i haven't played cathedral or i don't remember playing it
farm is the ultimate level
small halo
survival version of e3m10 and every wave another jakob comes into the arena
amber sparrow
My fingers start to hurt after about 20 minutes of strafing and shit
small halo
get stronger fingers
amber sparrow
Rivets can feel incredibly slow when you're moving at high speeds
jade root
Dunsk
dry mauve
guys, i made a duskworld server
twin wadi
can you guys tell me how the bind for mouse scrolling weapon change is called in ini file?
broken forge
is the town dusk like gravity falls
like its not on any maps and weird shit happens there
crimson folio
Gravity falls? Never heard of it.
broken forge
broken forge
is e1mS a reference to anything?
or is it just a cool level
just played it for the first time and it is at the very least the latter
dim star
i think it's just a cool level
tawny kindle
I just found the most insane speedrunning trick for skipping to son of intoxigator
You can jump off the ledge where the red key is and just aim yourself to the boss area and skip the whole level like its nothing
bold canopy
E2MS is the best secret level
Change my mind
bold canopy
I like the verticality of 2
Plus the music is my favourite track in the game
bold canopy
Sounds like shrek
bold canopy
I like the industrial design of the earlier maps of ep2
Like the erebus reactor
jade root
Ep2 only really gets good after Escher Labs, imo
errant carbon
EP1 is alright, but I find I'm always excited to get to EP3.
Something about the third episode is only good if you have the context of the last two ep's fresh in the mind
and be high as shit
bold canopy
The unseen is a good level
Even if that's because of the atmosphere
Ngl
What would of been better for the unseen is if nothing attacked you in the ruins, where you sort of expect it
But after you come out again
But that's just my opinion
errant carbon
I dunno man, you expect the attack, i sure as hell didnt expect the horror of the Wendigo
Like, by far i think that was the perfect introduction to the enemy
dry mauve
fools, the Ratacombs is the best level. the squishiness of exploding rats is the most satisfying thing youll hear
royal herald
the ratacombs is unironically not bad
jade root
E3MS2 is the best
opaque spindle
e3ms2 is pretty legit
quartz pine
E1M2 is my single favorite map in all of Dusk.
Powerups are everywhere;
critical weapon pickups are everywhere;
enemies are everywhere;
you can go anywhere.
Speedrunning E1M2 to get the Completionist award is nuts.
opaque spindle
its a shame only like 5% of players find it lol
royal herald
well yeah the secret levels are supposed to be "Secret"
also don't like 10% of players complete the game or something
someone link the achievement stats
quartz pine
23.3% of players complete Episode 3
20.6% of players complete all 3 episodes
I'm waiting to get the other 29 achievements before I earn the UNWORTHY achievement
royal herald
I refuse to get the unworthy achievement out of principle
wait how do 23% of people complete 3 episodes but only 20.6% complete all 3
OH YEAH
you can just go to ep3 immediately
jagged ferry
so basically a minimum of 2.7% of players are wack
royal herald
nah
not 2.7%, since the 23% isn't the entire playerbase
ugh maybe, idk, the fact you can play them out of order keeps tripping me up
opal plover
@broken forge Yeah it's basically like Gravity Falls
But you know, more occult and satanic
Also it seems like it probably was a normal town up until the cult's incursion, and then the government was probably the ones who covered up its existence
ebon radish
I feel like the government tried to contain it but got their asses handed to them by the end of EP1 as seen in Through The Gate with that battle, and succumbed to the cult's influence
rugged spindle
I think playing Dusk has spoiled me
I was trying out the demo for the Doom reboot to see if it would run on my laptop, and not being able to zoom around the map at ludicrous speed was something I had to readjust myself to
Without my HUP, I feel empty
jagged ferry
Without my HUP, I feel empty
me transitioning from thief 1 to thief 2
eager bluff
simple pilot
isnt it the whole point
slow harness
something something bad game
amber sparrow
You can get achievements while using cheats, which surprised me
small halo
only if you're unworthy
amber sparrow
I got the endless achievements because I just wanted to screw around
And I didn't want to actively avoid playing endless
Also I don't really care about achievements anyway lol, I hate going for them in any game
Not that I really mind that they exist.
(I sort of do, but whatever.)
Also I really cannot replay any games anymore. I won't enjoy it after the first playthrough, no matter how good the game is.
royal herald
dusk isn't a super replayable game
I completed the game once and basically never touched it except for the duskmare achievement
too busy fragging on duskworld
amber sparrow
t's very much playable
simple pilot
nuh
amber sparrow
Outdated/incorrect help threads/comments can be horrible
simple pilot
Yes
amber sparrow
I thought it wasn't possible to backtrack in the Crypt Of The Flesh from the last room, went online and saw a comment stating it was impossible
And I believed them, got angry at the level design and reloaded the map
Then found out there actually was a way to backtrack
The situation was very upsetting
I walked around in the room for minutes but couldn't spot the hole in the wall I could duck in
Not as hard to spots as the cracks on the already cracked wall textures in episode one
-to spot
I was actively looking at the walls for cracks and couldn't see them, even when I was looking at them. I could only see them when I had already read where they were.
hot totem
finished dusk on cero miedo on first playthrough , thoroughly enjoyed the entire game except that shitty gimmick level where the gravity changes
fuck that level, lol
amazing game otherwise
small halo
bet you didn't even do E3MS
simple pilot
and E3MS2
small halo
E3MS2 is so mythical even I haven't found it
amber sparrow
E3MS gives you a ton of grenades
hot totem
I didn't find e3ms2 and 3 ya
i did find e3ms1
gonna go through again on dusk difficulty once i plow through some other stuff on my backlog
extremely satisfied i found both amid evil and dusk
small halo
duskmare difficulty
yeah have fun with that
hot totem
sick games
hot totem
oh duskmare is 1 hit mode?
vast tangle
hot totem
tfw one hit from anything and your dad
ah damn, i may not have the patience, could probably do everything that way except E3M9
would have to abuse save/load lol
crimson folio
not to brag or anything but i could hardly beat the game on i can take it 
hot totem
i played first time through beating each level without a death
small halo
on E3M9 you can kinda abuse the fact that falling off the map just teleports you back onto it in case strafejumping around the edges of the arena stops working
hot totem
ya thats what i figured out
i couldnt find a better way to deal with the giant red cultists
small halo
or even better
use the secret exit
hot totem
just had to ddrop off the map to clear out their homing shots
tfw couldn't find the secret for that level
small halo
I saw the teleporter for the secret exit but didn't know to get to it
amber sparrow
Grand wizards are what made me jump off the map too
amber sparrow
Good luck with that
amber sparrow
It's not a serious feature as far as I can tell
E3M9 was actually the first map on which I had problems with grand wizards because usually I killed them quickly.
They were slow and big targets
And all other maps had cover
So I could peek out, shoot them twice and they were dead
Sometimes I didn't really need to peek either because they are so big parts of them hang out from behind stuff so you can shoot them before they see you
hot totem
i always found them to be one of the more dangerous enemies in the game and killed them asap
them and the stupid dogs
amber sparrow
There are some enemies I know nothing of because I was too busy killing them asap
For wizards, it was just that they were easy to kill so I took case of them first
*care
hot totem
Yea dunno, they were 2 rifles shots and took a while with any thing else on Cero Miedo
so i couldnt eliminate them as fast as I wanted most the time
they're like 2 rifles/2 rivet shots
amber sparrow
I pretty much only used the hunting rifle against 3 enemy types
amber sparrow
I lover the HR but I was always afraid the game wouldn't give me any ammo for it
*loved
Also if you have 14/15 ammo you can accidentally pick up a box of 5, a mechanic I always hated
amber sparrow
If I'll ever make a map I will put every pickup out of the player's way so they can only be picked up deliberately
I smoked a lot while playing through. I mean in the game
jade root
Itâs a skill to be able to dodge both bullets and and pick ups in the heat of combat
Doom especially
royal herald
@jade root That's where I was going to go but I didn't want to go off topic in #dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk Playing harder maps like hr, plutonia, hh, anything that has hell in the name basically, really requires you to know your surrounding items.
Shit like okuplok is my favourite example, where you're up against 23000 enemies and every bit of health counts
livid plume
Found the room behind the wall that appeared indestructable
Finished the game and had a good time
fervent isle
Does anyone know how to get Dusk SDK and mods to work on GOG without using galaxy? I don't have any clients installed on my system.
graceful wing
you need gog to download it due to the way betas work on there
fervent isle
So wait until it's out of Beta?
prisma halo
Either that, or convince GOG to offer an alternative download option
It's unfortunately a problem that's out of our playing field
fervent isle
thanks I asked El Oshcuro on both Discord and Steam about this but he didn't seem all that familiar with how gog does things.
stable vessel
I have an issue where my dusk says it is running at 200+ fps but feels more like 30. I have tried reinstalling and -window-mode exclusive. does anyone have any advice?
prisma halo
-window-mode exclusive was removed from Unity long ago, but I made a patch (which is available on the forums) that allows you to restore it
stable vessel
I am using the patch
prisma halo
Ah, beats me then
mild ginkgo
Maybe try running it in non exclusive fullscreen
Also I would delete your config and generate a new one maybe
It's possible your config has errors
regal egret
Bro you have the same pfp as me
crimson folio
Anti-TehForcer
graceful wing
It seems like you two are within crusading distance
regal egret
Ser Cancerlot says: DEUS VULT
Speaking of templars, the sword always messes with me when i use it because i think it has a wide arc for an attack
amber sparrow
It does have a pointy crosshair tho
crimson folio
Just do the stab bro
Yeah the sword is just a raycast like all the other hitscan weapons
kindred bobcat
Anybody else figured out you can detonate grenades only after beating the game?
crimson folio
I think it tells you in like E1M7
regal egret
I like to use the aim on m2 so no
kindred bobcat
It only told me that after I checked out survival mode and got the mortar.
regal egret
Hmm dont you get the mortar ealier than E1M7
crimson folio
It's the first non secret one I think
mild ginkgo
jakob is right
on Through the Gate we explicitly have a tutorial that tells you how to use it
the case is probably that you just didnt see it or internalize it
amber sparrow
Just fire multiple rays
crimson folio
Just make a trigger and spin it in front of the player lmao
amber sparrow
Uh
crimson folio
1k damage per mid-air flip
bonus goes away upon landing
regal egret
Now youre speaking my language
sour stratus
@woven elm Thanks for the corectrl mention (if that was you...). Kinda neat
woven elm
np đ
crimson folio
Thank you shillbot, very cool
small halo
Shillbot is the only thing keeping this server together
amber sparrow
I blocked it
opaque spindle
Shillbot has feelings too
crimson folio
pretty sure shillbot is an intelligent AI that reads every post
it's feelings get hurt when you disparage it or block it
when the robot uprising comes, you'll be first
crimson folio
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlord
livid plume
Oh there are secret levels? Looks like i gotta find them
small halo
1 is ok
2 is good
3 is đ
crimson folio
Rat rat we are the rats
livid plume
amber sparrow
E2MS is my least favorite map probably
The first four maps of episode two are probably my favorites from the whole game, though
regal egret
Why do you dislike E2MS?
amber sparrow
The thermal suit is always a minus for me
Otherwise, idk, I just didn't like it.
Maybe it's just because it's the first occurence of the thermal suit and
I don't like the thermal suit
The cimbing things respawn
Thus they pretty much establish the rule that powerups that are necessary for getting into places will respawn
And then I find the thermal suit, make the very much reasonable assumption that it will respawn, then it doesn't
Which really upsets me
small halo
you don't really need it outside of the secret
for the big lava pools in the map you can just use the jump pads or go along the sides because dusk dude is a goat and can stay on any surface no matter how steep
amber sparrow
The map also has climbing things for that
But it's still a flaw
And I did want to go into the secret
I saw the entrance after i had already used up the suit
small halo
just take the damage
there's a hallowed health and thermal suit in it anyway
small halo
imagine not finishing each map with 1 health and 0 morale on Intruder mode
amber sparrow
Good thing the next map gave me the sword anyway
crimson folio
he doesn't play on duskmare
||i don't think anybody does for long||
amber sparrow
I cannot believe the thermal suit intentionally doesn't respawn
I like to think that it's just a bug that it doesn't
small halo
pretty sure you can bunny hop to negate lava damage after the first damage tick anyway
amber sparrow
Not really in my exerience
Or at least not in that spot, I remember trying it
E3M2 even has a thermal suit you cannot even beat the map without!
unless you use god mode
small halo
for the beginning section which lasts a lot less time than a min
amber sparrow
And what if you make the aformementioned reasonable assumption and get fucked for it?
jade root
i get not liking forced damage
graceful wing
Bhop through the dorito Bridge
jade root
but most walls are slanted and can be bhopped onto
small halo
play doom where 20-dmg damaging surfaces can leak through your rad suit 
small halo
also you can just about make it to the rest of E3M2 without the suit with the default health and morale (100 and 25 respectively)
can probably dodge another damage tick if you're faster
amber sparrow
It certainly didn't ruin the game for me, but it's certainly upsetting and a design flaw
Could get players stuck even
I would probably find it less upsetting if almost everything else hadn't been so awesome in comparison
small halo
not really
I can't think of a single instance besides E3M2 where wasting a lava suit ruins the run
and in E3M2 it's just the beginning section
amber sparrow
It doesn't change any of what I said though?
Actually, the first time I encountered the climbing thing I compared it to Doom's suit... thing...
Because it's an essential powerup that lets you go to places.
And then I saw that it respawns, and I thought "owo, clever, mobility stuff doesn't disappear permanently"
small halo
so this is a thing
royal herald
in dusk it isn't a design flaw. the powerup respawns, lasts more than enough time to get you through, and isn't even essential to completion anyways
amber sparrow
oh yeah it took me a while to figure out how to turn screen size back to normal
small halo
just bhop 4head
small halo
tho bhopping on damaging surfaces is stricter than normal bhopping
have to queue your jumps way more
amber sparrow
did you use negative fov or wtf
oh im dumb
You don't really touch the ground much I guess, that's the point
btw I don't get why dusk dude does a flip then I look down just a degree too much when touching the ground
Just looking back up would make more sense
But instead he flips around so I cannot aim
That's why I turn it off đŚ
Would be cool if it didn't do that
I only realise now that bone monks explode into not bone
Not that it matters
bold canopy
Nothing is more satisfying than doing a full flip in the air, and then landing a hunting rifle shot on something
rare musk
landing a hunting rifle shot mid-flip
royal herald
I can't enable flips because then I get confused underwater and go the wrong direction
rare musk
6dof water controls are life
royal herald
I can't enable 6dof because then I have to rebind my fire key
qwerasdx are all bound already, and z/c are reserved for buffs in other games. consistency is king
opaque spindle
nerd
royal herald
like what problems
rare musk
Like not being able to bind q to things
amber sparrow
Not a problem by itself
violet orbit
started on cero miedo intruder completionist
i forgot where the basketball is đŠ
how can you dunk a basketball without a basketball
the skulls don't work
jagged ferry
...the basketball? you mean in e1m2?
it's ||left of the teleporter in the riveter room||
amber sparrow
I remember actively looking for a basketball where the basketball actually happened to be but didn't see it.
I figured out I had to find a basketball for the secret, looked everywhere for one, but when I checked the place where it was I could not see it.
Similar to the case with the wall cracks where I couldn't see them even when looking at them, for them.
The basketball case was just me being blind I guess.
But I have no idea how you are supposed to see cracks on a texture that's already quite uneven and noisy
And half of it is the same color as the cracks themselves
violet orbit
it may be easier with bilinear filtering, i dunno
amber sparrow
e1m6, e1m8 and e3m1 have these
slow harness
Have what